Thank you for the video. I think we have abouth similar results. My adapter from homedefence-24 looks just like yours with 4 holes in it. JoNathan from Facebook told me will send me adapetrs for different HD markers, including the HDX68. He told me the inner part of the CO2 tube has threads and thats where he put in the new adapters. With his new adapters we can run it on either CO2 or HPA straing into the back of the marker. Btw, I jumped when the HDX spit out all the balls from the magazine LOL. Great test my friend. Thanks for making the video 😃👍
Yes i have been told the internal thread is all ready for 88g but may lack the puncture pin which i think can easily be remedied with an m16 tap. On video it looked like a ball fountain I couldnt stop laughing.
I own one that purchased from Claudio (hotspot) that shoots 500 plus .I like the ideal of the 88 gram co2 .But you are 100% right about the the unpredictable CO2😎
@@lesslethalfordummies I don't have a crony, but I put a power kit in it. I would love to crony it, but I am telling you, touch-wise, the power feels there; that's for me, tho, and I have no concerns about the second volley shooting out as well, unlike other CO2 guns I can't really see the sudden transition from strong to week till about the late 20th shot ( I will mention that when I know I will shoot my HDX, I will keep the cartridges in my first layer of outdoor clothes to ensure the co2 is not cooled if that makes any difference. )
@@bostonswift Mine after removing valve block hits 36 to 40 joules on first two shots then averages 45 the next 14. Highest ever recorded was 57 joules with 7 gram aluminum balls. Slicing through 1/2 pine with ease. Temps are a little higher here in NC , and I'm yet to get brave enough to shoot indoors cause of noise impacting my trap.
Could this be the same thing that happened with the original tippmann TCR’s they were known to get liquid into the system when the seals got too cold and creating higher velocity due to the expansion of a liquid in the gun. As we all know, CO2 is a liquid that expands in to a gas and is usually what propels the projectile based on temperature and pressure of the cartridge.
Its possible. Really these Umarex are just a different breed. They were not designed to do what we are asking of them so they respond hastily different each time.
Hey Sean. I know you're not 'into' revolvers, but will you review and do your magic to the HDR50 and/or the HDR68 sometime? All of your videos are much appreciated and i know this is selfish, but i would love to see what you can achieve with one of my favourite markers 🙏🤞🤗
@@lesslethalfordummies But it's soooo ugly Sean and looks like a kids toy. Please get an HDR when you've finished the HDP. 🙏. It was so funny when your balls popped out 🤣
@@lesslethalfordummies I NOTICE A CLIMB WHEN I SHOOT MY SIX SHOTS , GO AND COLLET MY AMMO AND SHOOT SOME MORE ,ALWAYS FIGURED IT WAS BECAUSE THE CO2 HAD TIME TO HEAT U A LITTLE !
could the climbing effect be because things are getting more lubricated the more you shoot ? i always thought shooting steel ,aluminum and glass slides down the barrel a lot better than rubber or soft plastics ? very interesting test my brother !!!
It has always done this brand new and modified. Think it has more to do with the transfer of air from the first indicator chamber into the actual air chamber via a brass tube.
Can you use one full Co2 12g alongside an empty Co2 12g? For a 16 joules... Obviously, it will reduce shots, etc. I have tried using one full and one empty but the Co2 release button doesn't raise, and if it does it only raises slightly. It seems to me the gun is not designed to be used this way due to not creating enough pressure to raise the Co2 release button. I could be wrong, it could be a faulty gun...
You can use an empty one. Some cartridges are shorter by brand and may cause a problem puncturing the one full cartridge. Try putting a washer between the two round ends this should raise the button enough.
@bethevoice-gen1rev225 i did a video where i was using washers. LL4D Umarex Hdx 7.5j - Solving dual co2 puncture problem ua-cam.com/video/My_2goxuOZE/v-deo.html
Apart from the consistency, it's still an impressive looking shotgun. Do they also sell the 40 joules model in Canada? I wouldn't know how to do it, but I've always wanted to have just a pistol grip on this one, and perhaps a top mounted bottle or something like that. But you would still have this ugly metal part sticking out just above the pistol grip... too bad, at 40 joules it would make a hell of a marker for self defense!
I like the way of your thinking. I would love maybe folding bottle stock 🤔 40j will not be available in Canada i think do to its advertised power from the box
@@lesslethalfordummies Yes, a folding bottle stock would just be great ! In France, you need a hunter license to buy a 40 joules HDX, wich I have, even if I will never ever hunt. I studied and got it mainly to learn some basic security rules with firearms ;-)
that climbing power thing... i hope my factory 40j won't do that. it takes the 88g so no 2x12 tube. It adverts as "36-40j" CAN'T WAIT to find out; supposed to ship in Mar. so it will likely be here in June🙄.
Looked like a goat in the backyard 😂😂😂 what was that? I am so glad I didn't get a HDX and won't (thanks Rune) regardless, CO2 HPA whatever .... Paging the Doctor for Surgery....Should be interesting! Thanks!
Anybody has any idea why HDX68 have significant power drop on HPA tank than on co2 88g? I've replaced co2 tube with homedefence24 pressure housing and used powerkit and I see that on 88g co2 it's strong like hell but when I attached HPA tank (regulated to 1100PSI) via Air-Venturi bulk fill co2 adapter the power seems to drop. Balls bouce off the target (pcv floor panel) rather than making a hole (there are nice holes on co2). I've also tested it on 1300PS regualted tank but ball seems to fly even slover and my trigger is much more harder to push. Any ideas?
It is the transfer port that is holding back hpa. Essentially you need to skip the indicator portion and get air directly into the air chamber without any reductions. It can be down quite easily but requires permanently altering the launchers internal shell.
@@lesslethalfordummies Thanks for the answer. Could you please describe this part more specifically? Where it sits, how it looks? Any pic from google or yours if you have. Sorry for bothering, and thanks for your help.
I am sorry i do not have any other information for you. You need to treat it as if it were a rear air adapter for an HDR or HDP where is goes directly into the back.
I tried Hpa through the co2 tube using the same adapter in an earlier video with terrible results. In its mostly factory form this marker loves 88/90g co2. There are a few places doing 90g conversions but it requires the permanent removal of the 2x c02 tube.
@@lesslethalfordummies yeah, the one I got is already the 40j 88g version. I was wondering if the power would drop or stay the same if I would connect a 88g to hpa connector to it.
@@patricksieses53 my guess is power output will be greatly reduced using hpa just from all the videos of folks testing hpa with less then stellar results.
Good vid tho boss u guys really took these things to the next level hopefully one day there will be a end result and keep them tuned for reliability and optimal performance keep them in a dry cool place well lubed
@@lesslethalfordummies he'll yeah because we're running out of time doc where gonna be all screwed if u don't get these numbers straightened out lmao jk imagine
Thank you for the video. I think we have abouth similar results. My adapter from homedefence-24 looks just like yours with 4 holes in it. JoNathan from Facebook told me will send me adapetrs for different HD markers, including the HDX68. He told me the inner part of the CO2 tube has threads and thats where he put in the new adapters. With his new adapters we can run it on either CO2 or HPA straing into the back of the marker. Btw, I jumped when the HDX spit out all the balls from the magazine LOL. Great test my friend. Thanks for making the video 😃👍
LOL , I FREAKED OUT ALSO , LMAO !!!
Yes i have been told the internal thread is all ready for 88g but may lack the puncture pin which i think can easily be remedied with an m16 tap.
On video it looked like a ball fountain I couldnt stop laughing.
Haheeet
Com'è? È più potente con CO2 88g che hPa 1000psi
@@turijdragonflyyes this marker performs better using 88/90g Co2.
I own one that purchased from Claudio (hotspot) that shoots 500 plus .I like the ideal of the 88 gram co2 .But you are 100% right about the the unpredictable CO2😎
I love the HDX. I always get about 32 shots, I do not have a Crony, but the feeling of power is consistent.
I would love to have consistent power but the chrono doesn’t lie.
Which version do you have?
@@lesslethalfordummies I don't have a crony, but I put a power kit in it. I would love to crony it, but I am telling you, touch-wise, the power feels there; that's for me, tho, and I have no concerns about the second volley shooting out as well, unlike other CO2 guns I can't really see the sudden transition from strong to week till about the late 20th shot
( I will mention that when I know I will shoot my HDX, I will keep the cartridges in my first layer of outdoor clothes to ensure the co2 is not cooled if that makes any difference. )
@@bostonswiftThats so great that you are having good results. I have heard from others to keep the co2 close to your body as well. Makes sense really.
When Rune asks people listen ....thanks for this!
Well it performed much like his marker. Its good to have confirmation sometimes to realize what is wrong or better what is right.
@@lesslethalfordummies Iam glad you did the video. Thank you 🙂👍
@@runerebel8441 You welcome!
You need to remove the 12 G CO2 tube completely off the gun install the 88 G bottle inplace of that and you'll reach 40 Jewels immediately
Yes i see Homedefence has a very nice adapter piece now. I think i will try it.
Excellent shooting test, bro! I have an HDX-68!
Thanks. The Hdx is a fun one.
@@lesslethalfordummies welcome, bro
Hello
If I press the red pressure indicator, does all the gas in the tank be released?
Or is only a small part of the gas released?
Had to come back and hit the 👍🏾
Much appreciated.
Use soapy water for leak detection!
I've been on the fence about getting one of these. Maybe they'll co.e out with a v2 that works a bit more consistent 💥💥💥
There is a 40j version being released in the USA this year but the question is wiil it be a true 40j or ramp up fps like everyone else’s.
@@lesslethalfordummies WWWWWWWWWWHAT , I CANT WAIT TO SEE THE INTERNALS ON THAT ONE !!!
The HDX is worth it when modded.
@@bostonswift
Mine after removing valve block hits 36 to 40 joules on first two shots then averages 45 the next 14. Highest ever recorded was 57 joules with 7 gram aluminum balls. Slicing through 1/2 pine with ease. Temps are a little higher here in NC , and I'm yet to get brave enough to shoot indoors cause of noise impacting my trap.
I love my hdx
Cant beat that soothing sound.
Could this be the same thing that happened with the original tippmann TCR’s they were known to get liquid into the system when the seals got too cold and creating higher velocity due to the expansion of a liquid in the gun. As we all know, CO2 is a liquid that expands in to a gas and is usually what propels the projectile based on temperature and pressure of the cartridge.
Its possible. Really these Umarex are just a different breed. They were not designed to do what we are asking of them so they respond hastily different each time.
Hey Sean. I know you're not 'into' revolvers, but will you review and do your magic to the HDR50 and/or the HDR68 sometime? All of your videos are much appreciated and i know this is selfish, but i would love to see what you can achieve with one of my favourite markers 🙏🤞🤗
You aren’t the only one. Sigh….i am really just having so much fun with the Hdp that the Hdr isnt on deck yet.
@@lesslethalfordummies But it's soooo ugly Sean and looks like a kids toy. Please get an HDR when you've finished the HDP. 🙏. It was so funny when your balls popped out 🤣
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Ill try and scrounge up some sewer money.
So bizarre how it climbs
Heart breaking is a better term for a $500 marker here in Canada.
@@lesslethalfordummies I NOTICE A CLIMB WHEN I SHOOT MY SIX SHOTS , GO AND COLLET MY AMMO AND SHOOT SOME MORE ,ALWAYS FIGURED IT WAS BECAUSE THE CO2 HAD TIME TO HEAT U A LITTLE !
could the climbing effect be because things are getting more lubricated the more you shoot ? i always thought shooting steel ,aluminum and glass slides down the barrel a lot better than rubber or soft plastics ? very interesting test my brother !!!
It has always done this brand new and modified. Think it has more to do with the transfer of air from the first indicator chamber into the actual air chamber via a brass tube.
@@lesslethalfordummies WOW MAKES PERFECT SENCE !!!
@@rick31869 The pins dont do anything it has been proven time and time again. It just wastes air.
Can you use one full Co2 12g alongside an empty Co2 12g? For a 16 joules... Obviously, it will reduce shots, etc. I have tried using one full and one empty but the Co2 release button doesn't raise, and if it does it only raises slightly. It seems to me the gun is not designed to be used this way due to not creating enough pressure to raise the Co2 release button. I could be wrong, it could be a faulty gun...
You can use an empty one. Some cartridges are shorter by brand and may cause a problem puncturing the one full cartridge. Try putting a washer between the two round ends this should raise the button enough.
@@lesslethalfordummies Oh, OK, that's great, thanks for the tip.
@bethevoice-gen1rev225 i did a video where i was using washers.
LL4D Umarex Hdx 7.5j - Solving dual co2 puncture problem
ua-cam.com/video/My_2goxuOZE/v-deo.html
@@lesslethalfordummies just completed a review on my thoughts after having for a week... ua-cam.com/video/MnkSjkHq1Z4/v-deo.htmlsi=Hz7r7oiEHrsrcooK
Apart from the consistency, it's still an impressive looking shotgun. Do they also sell the 40 joules model in Canada? I wouldn't know how to do it, but I've always wanted to have just a pistol grip on this one, and perhaps a top mounted bottle or something like that. But you would still have this ugly metal part sticking out just above the pistol grip... too bad, at 40 joules it would make a hell of a marker for self defense!
I like the way of your thinking. I would love maybe folding bottle stock 🤔
40j will not be available in Canada i think do to its advertised power from the box
@@lesslethalfordummies Yes, a folding bottle stock would just be great !
In France, you need a hunter license to buy a 40 joules HDX, wich I have, even if I will never ever hunt. I studied and got it mainly to learn some basic security rules with firearms ;-)
Hey bud it's me again .....cable guy voicethh
that climbing power thing... i hope my factory 40j won't do that. it takes the 88g so no 2x12 tube. It adverts as "36-40j" CAN'T WAIT to find out; supposed to ship in Mar. so it will likely be here in June🙄.
I think thats the million dollar question. I sure hope the 40s are real 40s.
@@lesslethalfordummies i wonder who will recieve theirs 1st. I haven't seen anyone else bragging about their pre-order.
@@lesslethalfordummies maybe needs a restricdtor? but if it's stuck at home then it has to be higher for sure! Damn, what CAN you guys carry?
@@airgunsanonymouslesslethal1904 can’t carry nothing. Everything is considered a weapon if used in that manner. Better to not be seen or heard. 😉
@@truth.tactical5580 does yours ramp up in power or does it start out strong as it should?
Looked like a goat in the backyard 😂😂😂 what was that? I am so glad I didn't get a HDX and won't (thanks Rune) regardless, CO2 HPA whatever .... Paging the Doctor for Surgery....Should be interesting! Thanks!
Last i checked i have dogs, but no goats. Money could be better spent on other markers or the 40j version if this was to be used as defence.
Soapy watter...some teflon tape woulda sealed it nicely
Why is on HPA lower power?
It is believed that the tiny brass transfer tube is the culprit for low power on hpa.
when i run 90 gram in my hdr50 the valve oring freezes and it leaks a bit so i got myself a fs 13ci
I havent run the 90g directly into the back yet like the 40j version. I plan on picking up the new Hd24 adapter so i will be trying that soon.
Anybody has any idea why HDX68 have significant power drop on HPA tank than on co2 88g?
I've replaced co2 tube with homedefence24 pressure housing and used powerkit and I see that on 88g co2 it's strong like hell but when I attached HPA tank (regulated to 1100PSI) via Air-Venturi bulk fill co2 adapter the power seems to drop. Balls bouce off the target (pcv floor panel) rather than making a hole (there are nice holes on co2). I've also tested it on 1300PS regualted tank but ball seems to fly even slover and my trigger is much more harder to push. Any ideas?
It is the transfer port that is holding back hpa. Essentially you need to skip the indicator portion and get air directly into the air chamber without any reductions.
It can be down quite easily but requires permanently altering the launchers internal shell.
@@lesslethalfordummies Thanks for the answer. Could you please describe this part more specifically? Where it sits, how it looks? Any pic from google or yours if you have. Sorry for bothering, and thanks for your help.
I am sorry i do not have any other information for you. You need to treat it as if it were a rear air adapter for an HDR or HDP where is goes directly into the back.
@@lesslethalfordummies ok, thanks for your help!
One of these days i plan on tackling that project but the HDX is one of the least fun launchers to take apart 🙂
Would I get good results if I put HPA on my 40j version?😂cant find anything or anyone who has done a 40J HPA conversion
I tried Hpa through the co2 tube using the same adapter in an earlier video with terrible results. In its mostly factory form this marker loves 88/90g co2. There are a few places doing 90g conversions but it requires the permanent removal of the 2x c02 tube.
@@lesslethalfordummies yeah, the one I got is already the 40j 88g version. I was wondering if the power would drop or stay the same if I would connect a 88g to hpa connector to it.
@@patricksieses53 my guess is power output will be greatly reduced using hpa just from all the videos of folks testing hpa with less then stellar results.
Cant it be moded to take pcp tube?
Not easily i dont think but would be cool.
Let‘s go for the chopping block 🎉❤
💪🏼
What regulator did you use on the HPA?
I was using a First Strike Hero regulator set at 1000psi output.
Do you still have that little brass cap in place?
The brass top hat yes is still in place but apparently i have it installed backwards per my reassembly video.
@Less Lethal for Dummies If I have time, I wanna remove mine this weekend and see if there's a difference. I have the 40j version
Curious what you find inside if anything at all i dont think it has any valve block but the restrictor intrigues me.
@@isghaakjattiem5954 OMG , WHERE CAN WE GET ONE ?
@@rick31869 get what exactly? The brass cap?
Think we can get a F bomb in the next vid I mean I would be pissed
I might have said one under breath. 😆
Good vid tho boss u guys really took these things to the next level hopefully one day there will be a end result and keep them tuned for reliability and optimal performance keep them in a dry cool place well lubed
@@SoLoCruizer hopefully sooner then later. Thanks!
@@lesslethalfordummies he'll yeah because we're running out of time doc where gonna be all screwed if u don't get these numbers straightened out lmao jk imagine
Mag Dump=🤣😂🤣😆😂
Mag dump of the third kind! 👽
@Less Lethal for Dummies pulled a byrna on you..
@@JohnWixon sure did! 😂🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
@@lesslethalfordummies LOL