Royal Enfield Interceptor vs Moto Guzzi V7

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  • @Robin-iv1kc
    @Robin-iv1kc 3 місяці тому +49

    I own the interceptor and I also love the Guzzi v7 special. Probably I’ll get one next because of the shaft drive. I’m 64 and struggling a bit to get down ( new knee)😂. But I still think the Royal Enfield range and especially the 650twins are one of the best value for money brands on the road. I judge them by smiles per mile and they certainly deliver.

    • @drmachinewerke1
      @drmachinewerke1 3 місяці тому +4

      63 and fill the same . The RE 650 is my go to bike .

    • @The4BsWithGary
      @The4BsWithGary 3 місяці тому +1

      Did you go with Agostini exhaust? It was either them or the one that I chose, GTM Stingers. For fueling I went with Beetlemaps, which was so easy and made a huge difference. Enjoy the process!

    • @Larry_Mott
      @Larry_Mott 3 місяці тому +1

      @@The4BsWithGary Didn't know Beetle maps worked with the Euro5 V7 850

    • @The4BsWithGary
      @The4BsWithGary 3 місяці тому +2

      Not sure either? Had no problems with 2020 Racer from the U.S. They ( Beetlemaps ) were very helpful to work with.

    • @Larry_Mott
      @Larry_Mott 3 місяці тому

      @@The4BsWithGary The only ECU flashing solution I know of that works on the Euro5 Guzzis is UpMap . Then again there's a lot of things I don't know 🙂

  • @Jim_Canning
    @Jim_Canning 3 місяці тому +25

    I had a shot of a brand new RE GT when they first came out and was quite impressed by it, especially given the price point, but my back wouldn't cope with the seating position. A few years later, the dealer that serviced my BMW R1200R, brought in Moto Guzzi's and I had a shot of a V7 Stone and I felt an instant connection with it that I had never had with the BMW. I now have a V7 Stone Special Edition - the Special was nice but I really didn't fancy going back to tyres with inner tubes, and I don't mind the offset LCD speedo as the speed is very easy to see. When my V7 was in for its first service, the garage gave me an RE Interceptor with 3000 miles on it as a courtesy bike and it was looking a bit worse for wear, and the engine, though willing enough, felt quite 'tinny' after the Guzzi. If you have the money, get the Guzzi, if you don't, get the RE.

    • @Larry_Mott
      @Larry_Mott 3 місяці тому +3

      You can get a aftermarket bracket that will center the dash. I would order one at the same time as the bike as my OCD would go bezerk :)

    • @Jay_Speed
      @Jay_Speed 3 місяці тому +3

      I dont think the choice is about money, it is the hart and the way the bike links to you. I drove only Yamaha for 48 years but I bought a Triumph Trident 660 after a lot of test drives. RE as well, it was the way the bike was fealing when I was driving. So now I bought a second Triumph a Speed 400, fits nicely with my other eight bikes. If you want a list no problem.

  • @BlueRidgeRider
    @BlueRidgeRider 3 місяці тому +5

    I have owned 8 Royal Enfields, including an Interceptor. Thanks to your earlier raving about the V7 I decided to check them out. I bought a 2020 V7, the last of the 750 bikes. I love it! I simply took a hole saw to the little pipe sticking out of the muffler. That allowed me to pull about 8" of tubing out. Now it sounds as good as it looks!

  • @chrisdagnall8666
    @chrisdagnall8666 3 місяці тому +5

    I had exactly the same two bikes on my list a couple of years ago and went with the Interceptor, main reason was pricing and the dealers was nearer. It was my first bike after passing my test. Six months later I got a second bike, the Continental GT, the RE are such good value you don’t feel guilty with the price point. Enjoyed the flower mill exploring.

  • @speedtriplerider7853
    @speedtriplerider7853 3 місяці тому +7

    Great episode, thought I was watching Fred Dibnah at one point. Love the life lessons too and I know what you mean about the head/heart conflict. Pissed myself laughing when the Ol' Man emerged covered in white powder. Between the two bikes it would definitely be a hard choice but like you two I think I would opt for the Guzzi. Keep up the great work you're fast becoming my favourite bike channel, well you and the Missenden Flyer.

  • @multitrubshaw
    @multitrubshaw 3 місяці тому +7

    I think the big tank and the shaft drive are a winner for the v7. P.s. keep the Morgan car on your wish list. I bought one two years ago and have had loads of fun with it. Every journey is an event! Keep up the good work!

  • @redhedhair
    @redhedhair 3 місяці тому +13

    Thanks guys ! The old man had me chuckling with the flour 😀... Im hoping that Guzzi gives us a California next year 👍

    • @The4BsWithGary
      @The4BsWithGary 3 місяці тому +2

      Yes! Love the California. Can’t find them in south Florida

  • @michaelosborne4944
    @michaelosborne4944 3 місяці тому +4

    now live in the States, but lived in Lincolnshire, use to frequent Alford Windmill frequently, not far from Rutland & a nice ride out for you both. Keep showing us these Buildings of yesteryear, i miss it.

  • @jamesfairmind2247
    @jamesfairmind2247 3 місяці тому +4

    You two as a father and son team are unique, great combo which works really well. and really inspiring in these difficult times to see such a wonderful relationship. I totally get the "falling in love with the Guzzi", I mean without, if sometimes , less than totally logical emotion, what is bilking about?

  • @ruffleschips9055
    @ruffleschips9055 3 місяці тому +9

    I've always wanted to see the inside of an old, working, windmill. Thanks, from someone, who has never been able to travel to foreign, old-world countries.

    • @gzk6nk
      @gzk6nk 3 місяці тому +2

      These days, the UK is the olde world country!

  • @GapBahnDirk
    @GapBahnDirk 3 місяці тому +3

    A good summary of two great modern classic bikes!

  • @a.r.s.9930
    @a.r.s.9930 3 місяці тому +3

    Nice Video! If you want to get rid of the flatspot at the Guzzi that you talked about, consider testing the Mistral Velocity Stack. It compensates a lot of that problem, and you don't have to do a lot of tinkering. Worked out fine on my V7 850, without a mapping.

  • @_Nobody_Special
    @_Nobody_Special 3 місяці тому +3

    So jealous of that Guzzi, what a beautiful machine.

  • @-old-school-motorcyclesltd
    @-old-school-motorcyclesltd 2 місяці тому +1

    Great video guys
    I actually prefer the Enfield myself but that’s me 😊😊they’re both brilliant
    Atb phil
    Ps Love our country and scenery we take for granted 😊😊

  • @karun_vv7190
    @karun_vv7190 3 місяці тому +9

    i feel whenever i think about intercepter, your video pops up. is it a god sign.

  • @nigel274
    @nigel274 3 місяці тому +3

    I own 3 Hondas.....a VFR1200F a CB1300s, and a 125 monkey...love them all. Think Guzzi is an easy winner looks wise. Royal enfield crank case is out of proportion. Understand what you say about character but both a bit underpowered in my opinion. Having said that love my monkey ..great fun. Great video guys

  • @richyrara
    @richyrara 3 місяці тому +4

    Another great vid chaps and love the Guzzi. One point if I may, proNUNciation isn't pronounced proNOUNciation. A common, albeit ironic, error in pronunciation. 😁

  • @MGT.joseee
    @MGT.joseee 25 днів тому +1

    Bravo, I like this channel, they are honest and clear. Thanks a lot

  • @ronoldcross8189
    @ronoldcross8189 3 місяці тому +6

    Whrn I adopted my Enfield, I looked at the Guzzi V7 and Stone. Beautiful bikes, shaft driven....
    I love my int650, but the Guzzi is was the bidesmade who almost became the bride. If I were picking up a second bike. Sophia would be sharing the garage with Shanti.

  • @soshsiB
    @soshsiB 3 місяці тому +1

    Congratulations to your V7 Guzzi. It is a gorgeous motorcycle and I hope you’ll enjoy it a lot.
    I own a Guzzi as well. It is fare away from perfect but it always makes me smile while riding. Best regards and cheers 🍻 from Germany.

  • @MoonshinewithRoses
    @MoonshinewithRoses 3 місяці тому +4

    I owned the Interceptor, fine bike, but the most uncomfortable seat on any bike I have ever ridden ( and even bought the touring seat to no avail , not dissing RE as I also own a 2023 Scram411 . However , I too have , having sold the Interceptor, have just bought the Moto Guzzi V7 Stone 850 , that Guzzi has more soul than Marvin Gaye . IMHO the Guzzi is way better than the Interceptor on so many levels , great review , thanks for sharing .

  • @anthonyferrari1415
    @anthonyferrari1415 3 місяці тому +2

    Once again you have produced another great video, thanks guys .

  • @andrewdyson4255
    @andrewdyson4255 3 місяці тому +4

    I’ve had both, I sold the Enfield for the Guzzi. I loved both but the Guzzi is quite a lot better in many areas. I’m not slagging off the Enfield but it’s gutless compared to the Guzzi. If you ride both back to back, not many will go for the RE but for the money you can’t complain.

  • @a13bkd62
    @a13bkd62 2 місяці тому +2

    Enjoyable content. For me, the Guzzi wins because it's shaft drive. And the looks work for me over the RE. Cheers

  • @malcolmmathers2690
    @malcolmmathers2690 3 місяці тому +2

    i have both v7 2016 2019 650 there bouth lovely bikes the guzzi is the character king out of the 2

  • @cruiserbrahuk5411
    @cruiserbrahuk5411 3 місяці тому +6

    When are you brahs gonna get the Guzzi V9 bobber in? Saw one IRL the other day, looks nice. I just wish the V7 had the same power as the T120 then I'd get one

  • @RRRRefuelRideRace
    @RRRRefuelRideRace 3 місяці тому +4

    Rode both and I have to tell that the Guzzi is a totally different story. Still the RE looks great. Very different bikes, but still both classics. :) Nice comparison. Enjoyed.

  • @luddite6239
    @luddite6239 3 місяці тому +2

    What a fantastic location! That polished motor in the Interceptor is one of the best looking engines on the market in my opinion. And, at that price, the Guzzi has to be the bargain of the year.

  • @olethorhermansen5696
    @olethorhermansen5696 3 місяці тому +4

    Both are very nice bikes, but the Moto Guzzi is the only middleweight(ish) bike left on the market with shaft drive, which makes it the clear winner.

  • @gzk6nk
    @gzk6nk 3 місяці тому +4

    I've got a lovely 2023 Speedmaster Chrome which has loads of character, and also has wire wheels. They look good, but the downside is you have to have tubed tyres so punctures are an RAC or AA recovery job.
    My daily driver is a lovely 2021 soul red 2.0 MX5 which lives outside (my bikes and 5" gauge model steam locomotives live in the garage). I wouldn't trust a Morgan's hood not to leak in winter rain, but the MX5's never does (this one is my 3rd - the last I had for 14 years from new before trading it for the latest model 3 years ago - absolutely zero problems in 14 years).
    There's a reason why UK has more convertible cars per head of population than any other country - we have the ideal climate! Many countries are too hot (you'd have the roof up and aircon on all the time) or too consistently cold.
    I drive mine most days with the roof down unless it's actually raining. It takes literally 3 seconds to do that and can be done from the driver's seat - one overhead latch to undo / re-do and that's it! A marvel of great design. Don't let the Brit weather deny you the joy of open top motoring - you live in the ideal country for it.
    But with only 2 seats and a tiny boot it's no load / passenger carrier. Which is where my wife's CX-30 comes in! Also in lovely soul red crystal metallic.
    BTW, I'm a volunteer miller and guide for the National Trust at Nether Alderley Water Mill, so I found your tour of that windmill most interesting. We, too, mill flour for sale.
    Love your vids. Keep up the good work.
    Vince

    • @Michaeldaran7
      @Michaeldaran7 3 місяці тому +3

      I had many convertibles including 4 red MX5's before finding my love for bikes. When I feel my confidence on two wheels waning I know I will buy another red MX5 for my wife and I to continue touring in. Absolutely great cars!

    • @splodge57
      @splodge57 3 місяці тому +2

      Love the MX5. Can't beat the electric hard top convertible.

  • @johnanderson3412
    @johnanderson3412 3 місяці тому +7

    Picked up a new Interceptor for £5400. Cant beat it at that price!

    • @Larry_Mott
      @Larry_Mott 3 місяці тому +2

      That's true, but you can beat it with a V7 Special if you push the bout out the extra ££'s :) I like the R.E. but it is built down to a price and a bit gutless to be honest. You just can't argue a 20 Hp difference..

  • @garryclarke-kray4071
    @garryclarke-kray4071 3 місяці тому +2

    The guzzi sounded lovely at the end on the pull away

  • @davidnunnerley9084
    @davidnunnerley9084 3 місяці тому +2

    Yes I agree. I wouldn’t mill around thinking about it because that could be a bit of a grind. So if I had enough bread I would have the Guzzi

    • @MrDarcy-OlMan
      @MrDarcy-OlMan  3 місяці тому +1

      @@davidnunnerley9084 great play with words 💯

  • @paulhowlett4953
    @paulhowlett4953 3 місяці тому

    Hi boys, agree wholeheartedly with your choices. My son had a V7 750, it was raw and sophisticated at the same time strangely. I really enjoyed riding it though.
    I have never been bothered about cars, A to B is what they are for, but Morgans are a different kettle of fish. The new midsummer is my dream car!
    On pronunciation Darcy it's huss varna. Sorry to be pedantic. Love your vids, keep em coming.

  • @paolo__pedro
    @paolo__pedro 3 місяці тому +3

    Cant wait to see your exhaust upgrade on your V7. By the way, I live in Seoul and I ride a Guzzi V7 special, if you want to ride together let me know, I can show you around some biker cafes and racetracks. Hope to see you here. Have a good one. Paolo

  • @ivanbaldacchino6339
    @ivanbaldacchino6339 3 місяці тому +1

    Nice vid. I went for the guzzi v7 special (22 model in blue) for the shaft drive, the looks, the finish and the comfort of the seat. Rear shocks are surpisingly quite good, the front were a bit mellow. I have now changed the springs to thicker ones and the bike is planted in corners. Guzzis have very capable chassis. Could you arrange a comparison between the t100, kawasaki w800 and the v7...as reviews and comparisons of the w800 especially are very very sparse in general.

  • @silkycherry
    @silkycherry 3 місяці тому +3

    Japan in September is very nice. Still quite warm and can get very hot in Tokyo.

  • @saltaireorangebicyclechopp8555
    @saltaireorangebicyclechopp8555 3 місяці тому +2

    Both lovely bikes, l'd have the Guzzi every time but that RE colour scheme (dark green with unpainted engine) shows it at its best, better looking than a Bonnie. I've a mk1 MX5 1992, love it but every winter l have to store in the mil's garage, so l have to talk to her.....

  • @DucatiDiaries
    @DucatiDiaries 3 місяці тому +4

    👍 I had the v7 carbon dark. Great bikes. RIP Ron.

  • @andreglomm9843
    @andreglomm9843 3 місяці тому +2

    Oh good news at the end.
    Have a nice Trip 👍
    I will wait for the Videos

  • @AjaySingh-228
    @AjaySingh-228 3 місяці тому +1

    My thoughts and prayers are with you and your friend's family.

  • @Gingeonabike
    @Gingeonabike 3 місяці тому +2

    Almost got my full licence and tossing up between these two or the T120 - videos like this are very timely. Think I’m leaning towards the V7 Special. Just looks gorgeous especially in the blue

    • @MrDarcy-OlMan
      @MrDarcy-OlMan  3 місяці тому +3

      Personally I say the V7 as it just has the most charm and character 😁 and it’s great value

  • @neilpearson4862
    @neilpearson4862 3 місяці тому +2

    I have the V7 850 Special and can say it rides wonderfully, fun at 4K5 revs but brake feel could be a little more.. Lots of interest from other bikers and non-bikers when you pull up. Mind you i saw a new RE650 shotgun and can say it did look good, but the rider i spoke to, wished he bought the V7 Guzzi!

  • @AdamForeman
    @AdamForeman 3 місяці тому +1

    I personally think the Trofeo SKETCH BIKE KIT for the V7 looks incredible. The Normale kit also looks really good as well. I'm not sure what you intend to do with the bike, but the kits transform the off the shelf version into a unique custom designed bike.

  • @brianwhordley1852
    @brianwhordley1852 3 місяці тому +5

    I owned a Guzzi v7 850, which I loved, lots of sellers' remorse. I bought a interceptor a few weeks ago, far better bike than I was expecting... I agree with everything you say, Guzzi is a bit slower handling and obviously the 850 is a stronger unit than the 650.. in the real world there's not much in it... if I had to choose... the Guzzi just takes it... but it's close....

    • @RRRRefuelRideRace
      @RRRRefuelRideRace 3 місяці тому +3

      I agree with you. Still... in this case the Guzzi would be my pick too. Can check my content. Rode both bikes. :)

  • @admiralbeez8143
    @admiralbeez8143 3 місяці тому +4

    Here in Canada these two bikes are about $5 grand difference in price.

  • @AdrianSams
    @AdrianSams 3 місяці тому +1

    Both really nice bikes and the windmill is awsome. If you both like historic working buildings and ever visit East Sussex then the Weald and Downland Museum near Goodwood motor circuit in Sussex is an amazing visit.If you pick the right week you can do the museum and the festival of speed in one... Keep up the great work chaps.

  • @loddude5706
    @loddude5706 3 місяці тому +3

    Circles of lives . . . I remember pondering over Guzzi's new 850 Le Mans in the late 70's, & comparing it against Norton's Commando, - both being equal capacity OHV pushrod twins.
    Again, like today's offerings, the prices stood well apart - I think the Norton was approx. £1650 & the Guzzi £2200 or so - both requiring monthly 'drips' far beyond my pocket of the day.
    Interestingly, the various magazine writers came to more or less the same conclusion as yourselves, eg. Yes, one is better than the other, but they're both pretty good bikes, & yet, they each remain rather good value. Only two grand? - 'Nurse!' : )

    • @splodge57
      @splodge57 3 місяці тому +2

      I had a Commando 850 and a Le Mans mkl. The Norton was a lovely bike to ride but I toured Europe numerous times on the Guzzi. Completely reliable, no bits falling off and no oil leaks even when doing over 100mph on the French autoroutes.

    • @loddude5706
      @loddude5706 3 місяці тому +1

      @@splodge57 Most tactful appraisal Sir, well done. Much envy over here : )

  • @relevation0
    @relevation0 3 місяці тому +2

    Love them both

  • @michaelfinck6945
    @michaelfinck6945 3 місяці тому +1

    @ Mr Darcy & The Ol' Man: Thank you for another comparison, love you guys!
    I understand your definition of "character" and its value for your reviews and comparisons.
    I think that "sophistication" is mentionable when it comes to certain parts of a motorcycle.
    How about the brakes (front and back) of the Guzzi and the Interceptor? Which ones are actually "better", have more stopping power, more feel? Are the levers adjustable?
    Which bike provides a plusher ride? How do the bikes react under heavy braking or braking mid corner?
    That are just examples where I feel "better" is actually better and doesn't take anything away from the "character" of a classic motorcycle.
    Therefore I'd like to know.
    In a review of my 883 Iron I wouldn't complain about the short travel suspension on the back. That's what you get when you buy a cruiser, that's "character".
    I would complain about the front suspension though: It's very underdamped what leads to ABS kicking in way to early under heavy breaking on uneven terrain. Not good, although using the back brake is part of riding a cruiser.

  • @splodge57
    @splodge57 3 місяці тому +3

    They're selling new RE Interceptors now for £4999 +otr! Not as good as my Triumph Speed Twin 1200 but great value.

  • @Farney-gy1qo
    @Farney-gy1qo 3 місяці тому +1

    Bikes and WindMills, Great content 👍👍

  • @JH-ox7hn
    @JH-ox7hn 3 місяці тому +2

    Getting rid of the mentioned flat spot in torque can hopefully be fixed with upcoming models of the V7. Guzzi has equipped the 850 engine on the V85 with a variable valve timing system, which apparently has muchly improved the torque curve. I'm looking forward to trying a V7 with said system. Modifying exhaust, airbox etc. is not an option for me, as i'm not into loud motorbikes, so i will be having the V7 on the radar again, maybe next year

  • @elliottlyndley6389
    @elliottlyndley6389 3 місяці тому +5

    Love the v7 😍

  • @rockitrockit8517
    @rockitrockit8517 3 місяці тому +1

    It will be interesting to hear the new exhaust if I remember correctly the old Le Mans 850 almost barked when you gave it the berries, not quite as much as the Jota but still full of character and glorious.

    • @MrDarcy-OlMan
      @MrDarcy-OlMan  3 місяці тому +1

      @@rockitrockit8517 the new exhaust video is coming out next Saturday, so not long to wait 👍🏼

  • @raulantonioperezortiz1118
    @raulantonioperezortiz1118 3 місяці тому +3

    Very nice vídeo gentlemans 👍 saludos desde México!✌️

  • @Simulera
    @Simulera 3 місяці тому +2

    Moto Guzzi totally gets your “Morgan Brain” (and your fine watch brain). M-G are a wonderful, pretty affordable, high-end Italian machinery design exercise as well as the paradox of simultaneously being a dead solid “agricultural” and completely useful, practical motorcycle. That paradox is part of the charm. You could ride one 12 months a year as your main transportation if you really wanted to. And it would go fine and in style for many years. Iron Butt? No problem. Now, you can argue the practical durability case for a Honda CB500X too of course; but, as nice as those are practically and technically speaking, they do not look, feel, or talk to your Morgan Brain like a Moto Guzzi does. You can also adjust your valves standing along side a Moto Guzzi and rebuild Moto Guzzis over and over, much like you can do an actual tractor, an H-D, or, weirdly, a Super Cub. Which is totally worth doing to an old M-G and it reveals a whole different layer/level of the charm and appeal. I could be wrong here; but, after a long careful look, I think an RE interceptor is going to probably be worn out to a point not worth re-doing at some point around 60-80K. They’re great but the Morgan Brain is not engaged. A re-done, mint or patina’ed, high mileage, stock M-G is a full art-brain engagement situation. No doubt many disagree with all or part of all this.

  • @thefrenchbullet4246
    @thefrenchbullet4246 3 місяці тому +10

    Lovely V7. I took mine to Mandello Del Lario this summer, 3K Kms in a week and a half. Did the stelvio pass on it. What a blast. Love it more and more.
    I did record a video on my channel that shows the sound with the mistral pipes fitted. I kept the baffles in, but a guy I met at Stelvio pass had his removed and it was the best sounding bike i've ever heard. Just too loud 😁
    Keep safe!

    • @MrDarcy-OlMan
      @MrDarcy-OlMan  3 місяці тому +2

      Great to hear! I may have just fitted those to mine 😁(video coming soon) I’m definitely going to take the DB killer out

    • @thefrenchbullet4246
      @thefrenchbullet4246 3 місяці тому +2

      @@MrDarcy-OlMan Awesome! I haven't tried removing the baffles (yet) as I read somewhere that it may require to remap? I'm interested to know on how your bike will behave without them!

  • @ChadWinters
    @ChadWinters 3 місяці тому +2

    I have been seriously debating between these two bikes. Just aren’t any guzzi dealerships around me

  • @borderlands6606
    @borderlands6606 3 місяці тому +2

    The Enfield engine needs to be all black or all chrome/silver. The large bottom end accentuates the squat cylinders, which are further shortened by splitting the anodising. The Shotgun engine in black improves the overall appearance.

  • @JoJo-hc4dj
    @JoJo-hc4dj 3 місяці тому +2

    Great video, I am scared of heights and that windmill was high 😬

  • @BrutusTheRedV7
    @BrutusTheRedV7 3 місяці тому +4

    I like to keep my bike standard, but I just had to paint the fuel cap, I think they dropped the ball there.

  • @radtjack
    @radtjack 3 місяці тому +6

    Every time you say ''character'' we drink 🍷

  • @davidupson2066
    @davidupson2066 3 місяці тому +3

    Looking forward to seeing the mods, are you planning a remap at the same time, are they dependant on each other? Secondly do you have any plans to tour on this new beast?

    • @MrDarcy-OlMan
      @MrDarcy-OlMan  3 місяці тому +2

      First mod video is filmed and will be uploaded soon 😁 with the slip ons you don’t need to tune unless you take the DB killers out (which I will be doing). Definitely would like to do some touring on it, probably will be next year due to an announcement i have coming up very soon 😁

  • @operamatthew
    @operamatthew 2 місяці тому +1

    watching this video with my V7 sitting next to my Morgan 3 wheeler in the garage. all i can say is. DO IT!

  • @rohanroxy4813
    @rohanroxy4813 3 місяці тому +2

    Very good location you chose Darcy ,we need such lovely places which has some history attached to it where you can ride to the place and reviews bikes as well on the go. Would choose moto guzzi over RE just becoz Reliability and quality fit and finish. Have ridden the Interceptor before and also there are few in my colony as well, its not bike for daily commuting and also rusting factor haunts RE bikes big time as have seen it myself , darcy was straight on point about interceptor practicality rather than just hyping the bike for no good which many do on youtube.

  • @Larry_Mott
    @Larry_Mott 3 місяці тому +1

    Ok, here's my thoughts about the V7 (Special) Mine has a rough spot right around 3000 rpm, i don't percieve it as a flat spot. My Suzuki 1200 Bandit had a similar thing where at 4000 rpm it sounded like a angle grinder against the fairing, and the vibrations were annoying. Just like the Guzzi, below or past that rough spot it runs fine. I have just had it serviced (first 15000 km service) and it is better than before, mine's a 2121 Blu formale btw.
    I have thought about getting Agostini mufflers (every one i know say the Agostinis are the best for the Guzzi) however i am weary changing the air flow (too much) on a Euro 5 machine that already runs lean as a greyhound.. Once you start modifying it's a deep rabbit hole that can easily cost more than the return IMO. If i was financially independent, sure i'd get Agostinis and a more free flowing air filter AND a UpMap device and map, but by that time you will be in the €1600 territory, i'd also want Bitubo shocks, slighly longer than stock + cartridge kit for the forks and change the front tyre to a 110/80 profile one but i am hesitant to pour that amount of money into it as i feel the results don't really match the money spent. OK, the front tyre can wait until it's time to replace the stock one and will not cost very much more than a 100/90 but all the rest of the stuff.. I just don't know if it's REALLY worth it..
    A wee anecdote: The guy i share garage with told me that a guy passing by said "Wow that's a well kept Guzzi!" when he saw my bike in the garage :)
    My friend told him "Well, it should be. It's a 2021 model he just got a couple of months ago, new :D"

    • @Larry_Mott
      @Larry_Mott 3 місяці тому +1

      Two things i forgot to mention - I got the latest available ECU flash/map with the first service. A definite improvement. Then again, mine's a 2021 MY so yours, Darcy most likely got that already.
      Second - I read somewhere that the traction control setting 2 really screws things up. I noticed when picking mine up after the service it had reverted to TC 2, i changed it to 1 and lo and behold, it was almost like changing rider mode on other bikes! Much better with TC set on 1!

  • @steveparish9210
    @steveparish9210 3 місяці тому +2

    I’ll take the Guzzi I admit I’m biased as my first real bike was a73 850 eldorado

  • @pragsoftdev
    @pragsoftdev 3 місяці тому +1

    Love this channel 😄

  • @darrenhall6509
    @darrenhall6509 3 місяці тому +2

    If Harley`s built windmills, I think it would look like that. I`m still waiting for Moto Guzzi to bring back the Le Mans. If you have any influence Darcy, please ask them to bring it back and I will be first in the cue...

  • @kirbylechien
    @kirbylechien 2 місяці тому

    I tested both.
    As I'm 5.5 (1m65), the Interceptor 650 is not for me, its center of gravity is too high, the saddle is too high, I didn't like the position of the left foot (due to the engine?). But her engine is smoooooooth.
    Clearly, for short riders, the Guzzi V7 is a must. I felt in love with her after 3 minutes (because she hates cold start).
    My next bike, surely. The Special is my favorite.

  • @ralfybaby
    @ralfybaby 27 днів тому +1

    I am thinking of getting back in the saddle 30 years. Have been thinking of an interceptor for quite some time now. I went to a dealership here in Pennsylvania USA and made the same comparison. Test rides not on offer unfortunately.
    I look about the same as the old man, 62 years old in December, 6'2", 240lbs, life long recreational lifter, and agreed with previous videos where he felt the INT looks a bit small for a bigger bloke.
    Sat on the Guzzi and it has a very good seating position.
    Agree it is the better finished bike. And you can't argue with the 200 extra cc and the shaft drive.
    That particular dealership has a deal on a V7 special for $7500. Which obviously is a very good deal. With taxes, fees etc the price will be more like $9k.
    You can find a new Interceptor for a little north of $5k all day long. I can have a slightly used one with 8k miles delivered to my home for $4k.
    That leaves a lot of dough for exhaust, fork, engine uogrades.
    And thise enfields just endear me in a way the guzzis don't quite manage ....
    Those enfields look like motorcycles you would draw when you were a child .... there is just something about them.
    Add in that there are millions of them, a huge aftermarket part supply...
    That cootchie 😂 would look nice with my Alfa Romeo though ...
    Decisions decisions...

    • @MrDarcy-OlMan
      @MrDarcy-OlMan  27 днів тому

      @@ralfybaby the new Royal Enfield Bear is now a very viable option; a bit bigger than the Interceptor and with a nicer riding position

    • @ralfybaby
      @ralfybaby 25 днів тому +1

      @@MrDarcy-OlMan Good shout on that Bear! Not normally a fan of the blacked out look but it seems to work on this one. It has the upgrades too that you want like the upside down forks and the 2-1 exhaust.
      This bike shouts out for a bigger engine though ....I think if that had the 850cc upgrade it would be the one to get.
      My heart is still with the base Interceptor though with the chrome bits and the unadorned engine...

  • @jamesschneider3828
    @jamesschneider3828 3 місяці тому +2

    Royal Enfield needs to make a belt drive for street bikes but that would mean no gravel roads should be ridden. A belt is nice and quiet.

  • @nishanz
    @nishanz 3 місяці тому +2

    When indian complaints about little vibrations here a Man appreciating vibration on a bike ❤

  • @IIshadowriderII
    @IIshadowriderII Місяць тому

    I saw this video when it was released but I kept coming back. To me, it may be the most important comparison before my final decision. Which one of these superb bikes do I prefer more! There could have been many more things to be mentioned probably. Still, in the end, when we are talking about retro bikes (or bikes in general) it's up to personal style, feeling, or whatever you call it, to be the turning point for anyone to choose one or the other. Finally, for specific technical reasons and other not so technical I chose the V7 Special. Regardless, I will always be grateful to RE for "teaching a lesson" to the "big boys" in the industry regarding "what people want" nowadays and that is of course, smaller-capacity, cheap (relatively), easy-going bikes to enjoy riding and not over-the-top, expensive, "status symbols".

  • @ccclll987
    @ccclll987 3 місяці тому +2

    Also about the guzzi, it has the same engine of the V85, and there the same engine puts out 80 HP. It means that probably, just by doing something to the electronics, you get get 15 extra horse powers without touching anything else on the bike.

    • @Larry_Mott
      @Larry_Mott 3 місяці тому +2

      Unfortunately there's a lot more to it than that. I can't remember everything on the top of my head, but as far as i remember the V85 has titanium intake valves, different camshaft and crank and 52 mm throttle body vs the 38 mm of the V7. I think the ECU is different as well.

  • @edwardsenesac
    @edwardsenesac 3 місяці тому +2

    When are you coming to Japan? I am in Osaka now.
    Riding here is great and the people are normal and nice. Lots of twisty roads and mountains.

    • @MrDarcy-OlMan
      @MrDarcy-OlMan  3 місяці тому +4

      That’s great to hear! I depart on the 22nd of this month, starting our trip in Tokyo and moving around Japan 🇯🇵 then onto South Korea and Thailand

    • @kwakithailand
      @kwakithailand 3 місяці тому +2

      ​@@MrDarcy-OlManthat sounds like a lovely trip, Darcy 👍
      Supposed you arrive in the second half of November in Thailand you will enjoy the absolutely best riding weather here in the LOS, mate.
      Supposed you are free for a ride, hit me up 🤝

  • @ozyrob1
    @ozyrob1 3 місяці тому +2

    No comparing the two bikes. On paper they might be vaguely similar but in reality the Guzzi is so much better in every regard.

  • @JaffaJannu
    @JaffaJannu 3 місяці тому +2

    I think comparison with my Moto Guzzi V7 II with it's 750cc engine would have been more fair.
    Also my condolences to James my grandmothers brother died of bowel cancer just before covid R.I.P to Ron and Leo.

  • @aminjan56
    @aminjan56 3 місяці тому +1

    Sending my most heartfelt sympathy to Jon's family.
    May Allah grant the deceased the highest place in Heaven to John

  • @jasonrandell6523
    @jasonrandell6523 3 місяці тому +2

    Thoughts are with James. I lost my Dad to cancer in 2017.

  • @ukaszwesoowski3180
    @ukaszwesoowski3180 3 місяці тому +1

    Which bike has a better pollion? More comfortable for a passenger? And which one has a better acceleration? Both looks beautiful of course.

    • @MrDarcy-OlMan
      @MrDarcy-OlMan  3 місяці тому +3

      Guzzi is more comfortable for the pillion and is faster acceleration 😊

  • @bryanfarrow914
    @bryanfarrow914 Місяць тому

    @ 11:28, while explaining how to pronounce Guzzi correctly, you used the term pronounciation (sic), instead of pronunciation. Just thought I'd throw that in there. Great videos by the way, which is why I'm a subscriber. 👍

  • @mrmoon1482
    @mrmoon1482 Місяць тому +1

    I looked at the 2 and went for the interceptor, mostly because I’ve had very bad experiences with European bikes and scooters over the years,
    The v7 is still a great looking bike though,

    • @MrDarcy-OlMan
      @MrDarcy-OlMan  Місяць тому +1

      @@mrmoon1482 great to hear, thanks 😊

  • @horatio8764
    @horatio8764 3 місяці тому +4

    Owned both , Enfield is a nice little bike , bit heavy and terrible suspension, also dealer network in Australia stinks. Rust on things like handle bars mirrors etc sets in pretty quick. Gearbox is good once run in.
    Guzzi dealer network where I live is rubbish but overall ok. Quality of finish is wonderful, engine is awesome, ease of maintenance of a Guzzi is so easy compared to the Enfield , yes I'm a fan.
    But the price between the two is huge .
    Great video guys.

  • @Alex-io6ky
    @Alex-io6ky 3 місяці тому +1

    the guzzi is more like the bonnie in seating position and rake etc
    intercepter turns in and feels more aggressive on road ..less power but more sporty handling

  • @EvanHeisler-w6l
    @EvanHeisler-w6l 3 місяці тому +3

    I have never ridden a Guzzi v7 so I can't make a comparison but let me list the positives of the Enfield in my opinion. It is better looking than the Guzzi. My Interceptor is 3 years old and doesn't have a spot of rust. It rides smooth as silk with no vibrations. The motor has been bullet proof. Plenty of power for a 650. Unbelievable value for money. 3 year warranty. As I said in the beginning, I have never ridden a Guzzi. If I did I probably would love it love it!

  • @mascafierros
    @mascafierros 3 місяці тому +2

    Perfect mudguard

  • @kneeboarderndevon
    @kneeboarderndevon 3 місяці тому +2

    I wish they were still making the V11!

  • @CarstenBitzhenner
    @CarstenBitzhenner 3 місяці тому +1

    I own a Meteor 350 and an 850 Special. Before getting the Guzzi I had tested the Interceptor for a week but I didn't like the gear box - not nearly as good as the superb one in the 350s - and thought that I had no use for a sixth gear that still lets the bike rev nerve-wreckingly when you go a constant 120 km/h on a German autobahn. To me, the Interceptor is no good for going even moderately fast. At that it isn't better than the Meteor, but the latter tops out at 125 km/h, of course.

    • @dans2971
      @dans2971 3 місяці тому

      Interesting! I find my Continental dreadful above 80km/h. I use it around town and to get to work and below 80 it’s just fine. Good to know I’m not the only one who thinks this…

  • @longjonwhite
    @longjonwhite 3 місяці тому

    Enjoyed the old man’s audition…
    I’ve been wondering when there’d be re-make of Scarface….
    Starring Tony Oldmana.
    I reckon he’s a shoo in for the part. He looks pretty scary.
    “You wanna fudge with me? (Snorrrt!) Okay. You little cocka-roaches... come on. You wanna play games? (Snorrt!) Okay, I play with you; come on. You wanna play rough? Okay. Say hello to my little friend!” 👍😎😎

  • @oatcam9205
    @oatcam9205 3 місяці тому +1

    At 6'4" I just don't fit the V7 as my knees hit the tank contours. I own an interceptor and it gets loads of use. I would however love to try a Guzzi (that fits) some time

    • @ralfybaby
      @ralfybaby 27 днів тому +1

      I sat on one at the dealership just yesterday. It was close. 6'2" here.

  • @JamesMacDonagh
    @JamesMacDonagh 3 місяці тому +2

    Don’t go to lifestyle, or become Freddy Dobbs,cafe review style
    I watch you way more these days.
    I like bikes and stuff about bikes
    Thanks

    • @MrDarcy-OlMan
      @MrDarcy-OlMan  3 місяці тому +1

      We're always about bikes, and lifestyle on bikes, but we're doing less reviews at the moment. We will review NEW models of course.

    • @JamesMacDonagh
      @JamesMacDonagh 3 місяці тому +1

      @@MrDarcy-OlMan your doing everything right 👍🏼

  • @brettcole8312
    @brettcole8312 3 місяці тому +28

    If we listened to our brains instead of our hearts, we wouldn’t be buying motorcycles.

  • @patrikmathon8903
    @patrikmathon8903 3 місяці тому +4

    wait until you put mistral exhausts and a different air filter, it will change the bike, more torque and a larger rev range, it will fly like a bullet, be careful and enjoy😎🏍️💨

  • @michaelarchangel1163
    @michaelarchangel1163 3 місяці тому +3

    I didn't see any cats to keep the rodents away from the flour. A chap I know from Pwll, near Llanelli has a V7 Stone. His previous bike was a Kawasaki ZZR1400, so he clearly got tired of hell for leather stuff and worrying about speed cameras - and drive chains. I think it's kind of sad that the 1200 Griso died the death. The new watercooled V100 looks great but has lost a lot of the old school charm.

  • @chrissunde1104
    @chrissunde1104 3 місяці тому +1

    What is your opinion of the suspension on the Moto Guzzi? . I'm considering the new "Corsa" edition.

  • @bigred8438
    @bigred8438 2 місяці тому +1

    An extra 200 cc in the moto guzzi, a push rod engine a true 90 degree vee twin, for the extra money and a better resale value. In Australia, there are tons of Moto Guzzi's l think partly due to the fact that there was a huge number of immigrants who came here before and after WW2. They always fetch good prices.

  • @davidgalt8107
    @davidgalt8107 3 місяці тому +2

    Good comment about "pizza/Guzzi." While we're on the subject, the word is "Pronunciation," not "Pronounciation!"

  • @Bnory89
    @Bnory89 3 місяці тому

    RIP Ron🙏. In Australia the Royal Enfield is $10,390 aud and the motoguzzi is $19,890 aud, keeping the price in mind would you say in Australia the Royal Enfield is the better choice?