Several years ago, I put Linux Mint on a Dell XPS laptop that my wife used to use and gave it to my sister-in-law. She used it for years before it finally died and never did know the name of the OS that was installed on it! 🤔😄😂🤣 Then I gave her another Dell, this time an 18" Dell XPS all-in-one. It has a Core i3 with 8GB of RAM. What did I put on it? Again, Linux Mint in the latest version. She's still using it now, and she still doesn't know what the OS is called! She's happy, my wife is happy, I'm happy.
I've never converted anyone to Linux. I've simply made them aware that a choice does exist. Most people that don't live in the tech world have no idea about Linux, they may not have ever heard the name. If they express interest then I'll provide them with further information. I think the big problem is not that Linux is not a good OS, it's that is has basically no marketing and therefore remains obscure. Ensuring people are equipped with the knowledge that allows them to make the best choice to suite their needs is what these Linux channels and users should be doing. Not attempting to inflict their preferences upon those that don't have the requisite information to make an informed choice.
@@neilpatrickhairless For sure, as software as a service becomes more and more prevalent I fully expect consumers to slowly start migrating to free/donation based alternatives. It probably won't be a mass exodus but I can see a steady trickle of people that are growing tired of being exploited on a monthly basis.
This. You (royal you) can only provide them with information so they can make a better informed choice. Don't be pushy, don't be aggressive like Microsoft, that's not cool, and defeats the purpose/ is counter to the upside of being a Linux user imo.
Yes, a lack of marketing is a problem, but a bigger problem still is what to, and how to, market. These Linux channels aren't for non-Linux users. I'll bet 95% (or higher) of the people who sit through these videos like I do are just other Linux users like me. Many of these channels exist to argue how much better one distro is than another. Which package manager? Which graphics environment? Which desktop environment? Gnome doesn't offer enough flexibility; KDE offers too much. Let's not forget file managers. And, look, over there some guys are arguing about whether proprietary software in Linux distros, while over here some people are pissed about hardware companies not sharing their proprietary drivers with the Linux community. There simply isn't a single Linux OS that everyone can agree on, nor is there a single course of product development that everyone thinks is best. Nobody really wants a unified product; that would be BORING! Linux fans love the choices they have. But with hundreds of Linux distros vying for attention, how can you market a definitive product? Until such a product exists, I'll install a Linux distro of MY choice for someone who's computer is no longer supported by the latest Windows version. The only thing I make sure of first is that I will be willing to, and available to, help them when things go wrong, which eventually they will.
No, they are not all great. Windows used to be great, 7 had the best GUI of any operating system I've used before or since. Unfortunately, Windows 7 no longer receives security updates. Windows 8 was terrible for ruining the wonderful GUI of it's predecessor. 8.1 became "usable" again. Windows 10 made some improvements over 8.1 but that's where the telemetry started. Windows 11 ruined the GUI *again*, on top of doubling down on making the OS itself spyware, and having ridiculously bloated minimum requirements. Like the Apple GUI or not (I don't), Apple's hardware is overpriced, underperformant garbage, sold mainly to people who honestly deserve the ripoff for how they throw their money around, but it's still evil. MacOS could be the best operating system in the world, but as long as it's tied to Apple hardware, it's a waste. I don't even really like Linux. It's just... what is left.
My nearly 60-year-old mother, completely inexperienced with technology, can use Linux for casual stuff (web browsing and an epub reader with Calibre/Foliate). In that case, many other non-tech-savvy people can use it too. The thing I do most is show my setup on Sway/i3/Hyprland to my two best friends, so I’ve never really "indoctrinated" them into using Linux. Both are in the programming field and know that sooner or later they'll have to learn at least WSL. I know one of them even uses Vim mode in VSCode because of me. I just think the Steam Deck is a perfect model for Linux in technology. Millions of people now know that an OS specifically made for these gaming handheld PCs is better than the Windows experience (in terms of battery life-even running a translation layer for APIs, it manages to perform better in most games-in terms of sleep mode, and many other features that a Linux OS has, which are indisputably superior). I think proposals like this are better than us Linux users evangelizing an OS.
Yeah, my 76 year old mother is using Debian Stable on her system and has had far less issues with it than she did with Windows. The wifi drivers were AWFUL on Windows. Constant disconnects, forgetting the password, etc. Netgear-level bullshit. Installed Debian on her system and everything just worked and worked well. Firefox for her FB games, her streaming, etc. Linux isn't for everyone, but it can be. I don't use Windows anymore because I don't want to, but if people wanna use it, by all means. I just personally cut that cord somewhat recently and have not been incentivized to go back.
As a Linux user, I tell people not to switch. I don't want to be their tech support. XD If they do anyway, they are more likely to want to do it anyway.
I don't see any reason to convince anyone to switch to any operating system without good reason. If current one works, then use that. Also we need plebs too to pay our living.
I use Windows with more "open-source" less commercial solutions such as Firefox with Duckduckgo+Cloudfare+uBlock, kDrive, kMail, Thunderbird, Signal etc. I also don't use a Microsoft account for logging into Win11. Probably not optimal but good enough for gaming, internet browsing, e-mailing and creativity applications. Might sound stupid but I just want HDR, and ootb UI tools for CPU-GPU tweaking/monioring.I don't know about you but when I'm at home I don't want to have to tinker in the terminal as the only option for doing simple tasks. I'm pretty sure most Linux users have at least a version of Windows ready in a VM or a boot drive somewhere "just in case" so....
The way to convince Windows users to move to Linux, is too make a GUIi so that they don't need to know all the terminal commands. Window users want GUI for everything. You can still have a terminal, but it should be optional to use it
IT IS!!! The great lie about Linux is that it's terminal for everything! I use MX-Linux KDE. It's free. Run it up in a VM and play. Go find out how much you have to touch the terminal. (Clue, not at all UNLESS it's a specific CLI application like pdfgrep, same as Windows.) The Linux = terminal is a myth. But it is perpetuated constantly. And Kent... does not help.
@@jedipadawan7023 although what u said is true, I think that the issue is that when stuff goes wrong, which if we are being honest, stuff will go wrong at some point, the tutorials the average user finds in order to "fix the issue" aren't in a GUI, instead they are in terminal commands. In some aspects it is good because that makes the "fix" kindof distribution agnostic, but the friction for the user of using a terminal is still there.
@@joseespinoza4812 THAT is the one thing I will accept. Because the GUI is not standardised in Linux - and is kinda a good thing, actually... fixes tend to be via a terminal. However, that's trouble shooting, not general use. Plus,if you use KDE EVERYTHING is a GUI. You can change font hinting and compositor via system systems! I also ways give out KDE so as to avoid people using the terminal. Now, anyone who is not techie... does not fix problems. They always call their techie friend. Even changing something in 'Control panel' in Windows is terrifying for them. So, on the one hand, I agree when it comes to fixing. On the other, from experience in both Linux and Windows, fixing problems is always a case of.. "Yeah, so, er, could, like, do it for me?"
Yeah indeed, Windows users need something so basic even a toddler can navigate it, because at that point we are to assume that a toddler's mental capacity runs fairly parallel to that of the average casual Windows user. Make it to where everyone in the neighborhood can log in to the computer and make it to where the kids can play Minecraft. Those are pretty much the only stipulations
Literally something even more basic than actual BASIC, which is what computers used to boot directly into for about three decades prior to the precious graphical user interface
The linux desktop is an absolute dumpster fire, and a dependency hell. The only one that can convince people to use linux is Windows. Only Windows can manage to be a bigger dumpster fire than linux.. It will get to the point that everyone will either throw their PCs out the window, or take their PC to an isolated field to beat the crap out of it, like in the movie office space.
I mostly agree with you. Forcing people into using something as simple as an operating system is pretty damn dumb. However, an important thing to keep track of is that not many people may be aware of what Linux can do at all; so, just like you said in the beginning of the video, SHOWCASING is key! When (a bit more techy) people see all of the stuff you can do (differently) on Linux, they may easily feel motivated into trying it out of their own will. And that's the way it should happen. Not the other way around.
No one wants to run an operating system, they want to programs that do things that are useful. I personally like MS-DOS way more than I like Linux, I want to run one task at a time with no distractions from notifications or multitasking, but that isn't really practical anymore. I use Linux primarily because I can control the environment, It is just openbox and Tint2, I am not even using virtual desktops because, I want a very simple environment to run one or two programs at a time, that is what works for me. I use Windows at work, and it annoys me in various ways, I occasionally use MacOS, and it annoys me a bit less but I don't think either one of them are easier to use than Linux, they are full of distractions and advertisements, they desperately want me to buy icloud or onedrive or whatever, but I just want to run programs.
31:44 "NASA probably has an old Atari first personal computer in a basement running a robotic dildo..." Which Atari? The Atari 800, I think that came out in 1979. Thanks, that made me chuckle.
Okay I gotta jump in here. Linux IS more secure. Just not for the reasons you might think. You’re less likely to be infiltrated on an OS with under 5% market share simply because it’s not a desirable target for most malware. Why spend time , effort, energy, and money trying infiltrate 4 and a half out of every 100 users. And that’s with 1000% accuracy! Also, the fact that open source software can be audited can work in your favor , IF you know what you are looking at. Anyways I enjoy your channel just as I do Michaels
The biggest downside with Linux is that there is some software that is either not available or not a good experience to run under Linux. Most notable are MS Office if one collaborates with other MS-office users (for proof just open a powerpoint-presentation in ooffice) and games (although that has improved). Games are the reason i use Windows, it's quite frankly a bigger choice of games and less hassle. But I'll switch to Linux for my next computer (and maybe even the current one), as Microsofts plans with AI-integration and recall, effectively puting a spy in my computer, are downright scary, especially in the age of political hypercorrectness. I'll likely have a Windows-VM for office stuff in its nice little sandbox. So if anyone convinced me of using Linux on my private computer it's Microsoft. On the business side MS-office is likely the biggest selling point for Windows, there is typically a legacy of office documents and exchange of documents with others who use office, and nobody wants the additional headache reformatting the stuff so it looks neat in Open-Office.
The software on Linux is not always better. I use KDE plasma 6.1.4 at this moment . (Fedora 40). And the sddm login's do not all work. Somehow they changed something and it is not downward compatible. I like Linux, but it is not better than MACOS our Windows.
Blame Fedora for only offering a partial update. No problems with Plasma 6.1.5 (at this moment already official released probably a week or so ago) and sddm here. I use Arch, btw. (nocking on wood)
"I use KDE plasma 6.1.4 at this moment . (Fedora 40). And the sddm login's do not all work." Fedora is not the ready product. You need to pay subscription to get Red Hat Enterprise. That is the ready product for production. Also last time I check, KDE was really optional there. Default that Red Hat is focusing is Gnome. Fedora is similar to Windows insider. So your comment doesn't apply. Use ready products made for production and don't mess every option you can change.
@@midimax2998That’s the thing you need to understand. End user shouldn’t be concerned with the blame game. They want a polished product that just works.
@@albatross7 There is, Red Hat Enterprise. "Fedora" is a hat, same company brand but that Fedora thingy is not the polished product, it is the latest tech proving ground that is available for free for developers. It is not intended to end users. Other companies work similar way. Microsoft has Windows insider, for Suse Enterprise, there is openSuse. Canonical works differently in Ubuntu, while prodcution versions are marked with LTS, but between them they release 3 preview versions for developers. NodeJS has adopted Canonical style and also Microsoft has adopted that on .NET releases. So if end user want to polished product that just works, then use the polished product and not some unfinished preview version.
@@albatross7 "polished product" Linux mint!? I'm sure enough "end users" blame Microsoft (at least sometimes) and stick with it regardless. What someone want and what someone gets, if Fedora fails to polish / test their KDE product / packages and deliver a none working combination (sddm is practically the default for KDE) it is maybe not a game to "blame" them. End users would probably blame Linux, though.
"oh, you have a right for your opinion? then i have a right for my opinion and my opinion is you have no right for your opinion. then sh00t the fvck and walk away"(c)george carlin
Lol funny to critique them, the optimal is to use the OS that suits one's uses 👍 (Dualbooting/Triplebooting/VM are usually the way to go if the PC can handle it)
these people are nuts. and i mean it in a clinical sense. it's not even about manipulating and forcing other people (which is bad ofcourse) - it's just about how crazy this is in and if itself. imagine a person saying that they need to convince people to wear nike instead of puma. you hear that, you know they are delusional.
I tried using linux years ago. I did want to move away from windows. But windows is just so much easier to use on day-to-day basis. Installing the drivers and all of the neccessary shit on linux was a nightmare. If I have to open a console window and type in commands regularly, have to mount my hard drives and give myself rights before I can access them, and all that other stupid shit that the OS could do on its own like windows. That shit is just too annyoing. I don't enjoy pretending to be a master hacker or something. Look, it's nonsense that I need to look up 3 different tutorials on how to setup some stuff when I can do a double click in windows.
Linux distros were a mess IMO back when I first tried (2002ish) but about 5 years ago it got much better with Mint and now MX Linux and a few others. I prefer MX Linux over Windows 11 for most tasks, that said, even if it were not the case I'd suggest running Mint, MX Linux or a top distro from a removable SSD. MS is putting in the planks IMO for digital verification just to use your PC. Files put on OneDrive (Download, desktop, pictures..), TPM 2.0/secure boot, Bitlocker by default encrypting all of your drives, MS Account required, Recall not un-installable and so forth. It might soon be like Faceb**k - I went to get a new account and they wanted by photos and biometric data to get an account (so I didn't). Of course, under the BS excuse it is to stop bots or some other BS. I'm not sure that one day very MS won't want me to 'unlock' usually facial and other biometric data, put in a global ID, all just to unlock my OS and decrypt my drives - even if I am not planning to be on the web. Of course it will be for connivence, ensure security, keep underage people out or whatever but the real goal is complete control over your PC and monitoring your actions. These moves by MS are part of a long term plan. Driods/ChomeOS, Apples iOS/macOS - same issues. So the more people can have Linux (or something) as a plan "B" the better - if everyone just keeps allowing this we won't have any freedom soon.
Change the word "Linux" to "Scientology," and it becomes even more frightening, lol. Then change "switched" to "converted." That guy thinks he's playing chess when he's playing checkers.
Let me convince you to our wonderful religion the Jehovah's Witnesses... if you don't do things our way you are all doomed to hell for all eternity! Yeah, Linux people sound like fundamentalists.
Propaganda is the right word. I don't recommend Linux so that people don't come to me later and ask me a thousand questions. If someone uses a Linux distribution or something else, then please do so out of your own interest and motivation. Trying to convince someone to do something is the wrong way. BTW: The road to hell is paved with good deeds.
Most people don't know about Linux. If Linux came pre installed on PCs you'd have more awareness but microsoft makes sure that doesn't happen. They got to hear about it somewhere. Linus is better. It's not for everyone but everyone should try it.
It's not better, but still everyone should try to make use of it. There a plenty of users who just run a browser for most things these days, Linux can do that.
I saw in one of our retails pre built pcs were all coming with freedos installed...so by your analogy those poor souls that bought them are still on freedos
Because Windows runs the applications that most people care about: Office, TurboTax, multi-player games, Adobe, etc. I wish Linux ran those things, but unfortunately it doesn't.
@@dansanger5340i dont know what even terminal is nor i do know how to use cmd and i even need to write down command like sfc n dism or something on wall for accurate purposes A year ago my windows keep failing auto repair then my smartass look for how to repair on UA-cam and i tried then next day I'm at hp store and the guy said "unfixable" so bro erased everything i did in last two years Dude install windows with new license and refuse to install on my ssd that already inside then i have to migrate os hard drive to ssd my own I grow out to like win11 file explorer now a lot and it make so easy for organizing my files compare to win10 file explorer but it get freeze which end up black screen then i have to restart and very slow and drag n drop in address bar suck ass I tried one commander for once but its looks so hideous and not ideal for what needed for which basically organizing personal files like video collection music location movie collection list goes on I do play games sometimes but get bored playing so gaming is not my thing So switching to linux worth it for my use of case
So, I do have a counterpoint here; I have family members that I don't want to have to deal with the results of Recall storing their PII unencrypted on MS's datacenters. This is a matter of the safety of people I care about. Similarly, Recall is also proof that Linux is more secure than Windows; there's huge, weak attack surface that Linux just doesn't have, unless you volunteer for it in some way. I'm leaving after about three and change minutes, because you are already demonstrating the same closed-minded, biased mindset you accuse the content you're reviewing of. The rest of your channel also appears to be in transparent bad faith. Best of luck to you, anyways.
In other words, you're spreading FUD about a feature that hasn't been released, and will only be available on a tiny subset of Windows machines that meet specific hardware requirements?
@@dansanger5340 There's no uncertainty or doubt about it, and my family are well aware that an unsupported version of Windows is also an enormous problem. Fear, however, is fully warranted. I am keeping the people close to me safe; you should too.
@@CloudCuckooKing Are you keeping them safe from the actual CUPS vulnerability, or just from speculative vulnerabilities on a Recall feature that hasn't been released yet?
@@CloudCuckooKing The CUPS vulnerability on a particular machine isn't patched until the available patch is actually installed. Has everyone proactively installed the patch? Until they have, they are especially vulnerable, because now all the bad guys know about the vulnerability. The theoretical Recall vulnerability is that some future unknown exploit (similar to the CUPS vulnerability) would allow the Recall database to be exfiltrated. Of course, if the system is already compromised to that extent, the Recall database is just one of many pieces of data that could be exfiltrated.
I'm gonna stop here a third of the way through. This feels like the kind of thing where the whole reaction is just the same reaction you had to the thumbnail alone. Ya, you hate the concept of the video I get it, but it's not fun to watch half an hour of it. At the very least edit it to just your main talking points if you do have any, especially when it's an overtly negative piece.
I disagree with you. Many users don't even know what Linux is. So, naturally, when introduced to it fear of the unknown sets in. Most users are not techies so it is obvious that they would have second thoughts. Plus, Windows has dominated the industry for so long it is no wonder the world at large is used to it. I believe that only those who are fed up of the Windows shenanigan look for alternatives. I for one am looking for alternatives because, frankly, Windows has gotten worse with all the snitching and control that it imposes and it's worse with Windows 11. I for one just want a computer that I can use freely without my data being sold and watched and in some case changed. Now with AI things will get worse for individual's data who use the usual OS's and Cel Phones. Linux does not spy on you like Windows and others. So it is said that Linux is safe what is meant is that it is safe from company's and government spying on you. Privacy is the key. Though nothing is one hundred percent Linux is by far better as privacy is concerned. Though there is a slight learning curve. No convincing here, just facts.
buggest strengths of linux are also it's biggest flaw. there is no one default unbreakable distribution anyone with no computer knowledge can just use without learning anything many normies just run windows admin account on default settings, they bought windows 7 or 8 computer and just let it update to 10 and it remain somewhat familiar and didn't hinder anything in theyre workflow of watching cat videos and paying bills and i mean it is technically the same installation of windows with all accumulated junk from 15 years of computer use if grub was as easy to use a refind, and there was a single session long term support default linux already on the computer and terinal wasn't neded to anything besically if linux wasn't linux people would probably use it more but if using operating system require active thinking i don't think many people would use it because one console popup, one failed login or update causes a panic attack after a wall of unfamiliar small text that would be a short road to stop using it, and no mater if you like blue screens or not they might be a joke for many but they are not as scary as being droped to shell prompt for no reason
Several years ago, I put Linux Mint on a Dell XPS laptop that my wife used to use and gave it to my sister-in-law. She used it for years before it finally died and never did know the name of the OS that was installed on it! 🤔😄😂🤣 Then I gave her another Dell, this time an 18" Dell XPS all-in-one. It has a Core i3 with 8GB of RAM. What did I put on it? Again, Linux Mint in the latest version. She's still using it now, and she still doesn't know what the OS is called! She's happy, my wife is happy, I'm happy.
I've never converted anyone to Linux. I've simply made them aware that a choice does exist. Most people that don't live in the tech world have no idea about Linux, they may not have ever heard the name. If they express interest then I'll provide them with further information. I think the big problem is not that Linux is not a good OS, it's that is has basically no marketing and therefore remains obscure. Ensuring people are equipped with the knowledge that allows them to make the best choice to suite their needs is what these Linux channels and users should be doing. Not attempting to inflict their preferences upon those that don't have the requisite information to make an informed choice.
But if you're giving people free options how will all the software grifters stick it to your ass monthly with a subscription based model?
@@neilpatrickhairless For sure, as software as a service becomes more and more prevalent I fully expect consumers to slowly start migrating to free/donation based alternatives. It probably won't be a mass exodus but I can see a steady trickle of people that are growing tired of being exploited on a monthly basis.
This. You (royal you) can only provide them with information so they can make a better informed choice. Don't be pushy, don't be aggressive like Microsoft, that's not cool, and defeats the purpose/ is counter to the upside of being a Linux user imo.
Yes, a lack of marketing is a problem, but a bigger problem still is what to, and how to, market. These Linux channels aren't for non-Linux users. I'll bet 95% (or higher) of the people who sit through these videos like I do are just other Linux users like me. Many of these channels exist to argue how much better one distro is than another. Which package manager? Which graphics environment? Which desktop environment? Gnome doesn't offer enough flexibility; KDE offers too much. Let's not forget file managers. And, look, over there some guys are arguing about whether proprietary software in Linux distros, while over here some people are pissed about hardware companies not sharing their proprietary drivers with the Linux community. There simply isn't a single Linux OS that everyone can agree on, nor is there a single course of product development that everyone thinks is best. Nobody really wants a unified product; that would be BORING! Linux fans love the choices they have. But with hundreds of Linux distros vying for attention, how can you market a definitive product? Until such a product exists, I'll install a Linux distro of MY choice for someone who's computer is no longer supported by the latest Windows version. The only thing I make sure of first is that I will be willing to, and available to, help them when things go wrong, which eventually they will.
Truthfully: You don't really. I think at the end of the day, we stick with what serves our needs best! All OSs are great imo!
You wouldn't know that from Kent.
No, they are not all great. Windows used to be great, 7 had the best GUI of any operating system I've used before or since. Unfortunately, Windows 7 no longer receives security updates. Windows 8 was terrible for ruining the wonderful GUI of it's predecessor. 8.1 became "usable" again. Windows 10 made some improvements over 8.1 but that's where the telemetry started. Windows 11 ruined the GUI *again*, on top of doubling down on making the OS itself spyware, and having ridiculously bloated minimum requirements.
Like the Apple GUI or not (I don't), Apple's hardware is overpriced, underperformant garbage, sold mainly to people who honestly deserve the ripoff for how they throw their money around, but it's still evil. MacOS could be the best operating system in the world, but as long as it's tied to Apple hardware, it's a waste.
I don't even really like Linux. It's just... what is left.
My nearly 60-year-old mother, completely inexperienced with technology, can use Linux for casual stuff (web browsing and an epub reader with Calibre/Foliate). In that case, many other non-tech-savvy people can use it too. The thing I do most is show my setup on Sway/i3/Hyprland to my two best friends, so I’ve never really "indoctrinated" them into using Linux. Both are in the programming field and know that sooner or later they'll have to learn at least WSL. I know one of them even uses Vim mode in VSCode because of me.
I just think the Steam Deck is a perfect model for Linux in technology. Millions of people now know that an OS specifically made for these gaming handheld PCs is better than the Windows experience (in terms of battery life-even running a translation layer for APIs, it manages to perform better in most games-in terms of sleep mode, and many other features that a Linux OS has, which are indisputably superior). I think proposals like this are better than us Linux users evangelizing an OS.
Yeah, my 76 year old mother is using Debian Stable on her system and has had far less issues with it than she did with Windows. The wifi drivers were AWFUL on Windows. Constant disconnects, forgetting the password, etc. Netgear-level bullshit. Installed Debian on her system and everything just worked and worked well. Firefox for her FB games, her streaming, etc. Linux isn't for everyone, but it can be. I don't use Windows anymore because I don't want to, but if people wanna use it, by all means. I just personally cut that cord somewhat recently and have not been incentivized to go back.
As a Linux user, I tell people not to switch.
I don't want to be their tech support. XD
If they do anyway, they are more likely to want to do it anyway.
I don't see any reason to convince anyone to switch to any operating system without good reason. If current one works, then use that.
Also we need plebs too to pay our living.
I use Windows with more "open-source" less commercial solutions such as Firefox with Duckduckgo+Cloudfare+uBlock, kDrive, kMail, Thunderbird, Signal etc. I also don't use a Microsoft account for logging into Win11. Probably not optimal but good enough for gaming, internet browsing, e-mailing and creativity applications.
Might sound stupid but I just want HDR, and ootb UI tools for CPU-GPU tweaking/monioring.I don't know about you but when I'm at home I don't want to have to tinker in the terminal as the only option for doing simple tasks.
I'm pretty sure most Linux users have at least a version of Windows ready in a VM or a boot drive somewhere "just in case" so....
This reaction video convinced me to switch to Linux.
This reaction video convinced me to switch to windows to another windows
@@Erpdc-y6w 3.1 is really underrated
The way to convince Windows users to move to Linux, is too make a GUIi so that they don't need to know all the terminal commands. Window users want GUI for everything. You can still have a terminal, but it should be optional to use it
IT IS!!! The great lie about Linux is that it's terminal for everything! I use MX-Linux KDE. It's free. Run it up in a VM and play. Go find out how much you have to touch the terminal. (Clue, not at all UNLESS it's a specific CLI application like pdfgrep, same as Windows.)
The Linux = terminal is a myth. But it is perpetuated constantly. And Kent... does not help.
@@jedipadawan7023 although what u said is true, I think that the issue is that when stuff goes wrong, which if we are being honest, stuff will go wrong at some point, the tutorials the average user finds in order to "fix the issue" aren't in a GUI, instead they are in terminal commands. In some aspects it is good because that makes the "fix" kindof distribution agnostic, but the friction for the user of using a terminal is still there.
@@joseespinoza4812 THAT is the one thing I will accept. Because the GUI is not standardised in Linux - and is kinda a good thing, actually... fixes tend to be via a terminal.
However, that's trouble shooting, not general use. Plus,if you use KDE EVERYTHING is a GUI. You can change font hinting and compositor via system systems! I also ways give out KDE so as to avoid people using the terminal.
Now, anyone who is not techie... does not fix problems. They always call their techie friend. Even changing something in 'Control panel' in Windows is terrifying for them.
So, on the one hand, I agree when it comes to fixing. On the other, from experience in both Linux and Windows, fixing problems is always a case of.. "Yeah, so, er, could, like, do it for me?"
Yeah indeed, Windows users need something so basic even a toddler can navigate it, because at that point we are to assume that a toddler's mental capacity runs fairly parallel to that of the average casual Windows user. Make it to where everyone in the neighborhood can log in to the computer and make it to where the kids can play Minecraft. Those are pretty much the only stipulations
Literally something even more basic than actual BASIC, which is what computers used to boot directly into for about three decades prior to the precious graphical user interface
The linux desktop is an absolute dumpster fire, and a dependency hell. The only one that can convince people to use linux is Windows. Only Windows can manage to be a bigger dumpster fire than linux..
It will get to the point that everyone will either throw their PCs out the window, or take their PC to an isolated field to beat the crap out of it, like in the movie office space.
I'm agree with you in 100%. Thumb up.
I mostly agree with you. Forcing people into using something as simple as an operating system is pretty damn dumb. However, an important thing to keep track of is that not many people may be aware of what Linux can do at all; so, just like you said in the beginning of the video, SHOWCASING is key! When (a bit more techy) people see all of the stuff you can do (differently) on Linux, they may easily feel motivated into trying it out of their own will. And that's the way it should happen. Not the other way around.
No one wants to run an operating system, they want to programs that do things that are useful. I personally like MS-DOS way more than I like Linux, I want to run one task at a time with no distractions from notifications or multitasking, but that isn't really practical anymore. I use Linux primarily because I can control the environment, It is just openbox and Tint2, I am not even using virtual desktops because, I want a very simple environment to run one or two programs at a time, that is what works for me.
I use Windows at work, and it annoys me in various ways, I occasionally use MacOS, and it annoys me a bit less but I don't think either one of them are easier to use than Linux, they are full of distractions and advertisements, they desperately want me to buy icloud or onedrive or whatever, but I just want to run programs.
31:44 "NASA probably has an old Atari first personal computer in a basement running a robotic dildo..." Which Atari? The Atari 800, I think that came out in 1979. Thanks, that made me chuckle.
could be the 800. I can't remember what number it was. but MS started making programs for it back in the day
Okay I gotta jump in here. Linux IS more secure. Just not for the reasons you might think. You’re less likely to be infiltrated on an OS with under 5% market share simply because it’s not a desirable target for most malware. Why spend time , effort, energy, and money trying infiltrate 4 and a half out of every 100 users. And that’s with 1000% accuracy! Also, the fact that open source software can be audited can work in your favor , IF you know what you are looking at. Anyways I enjoy your channel just as I do Michaels
Does linux even have open ports like other OS does? if so, the use of firewall is very little, no?
The biggest downside with Linux is that there is some software that is either not available or not a good experience to run under Linux. Most notable are MS Office if one collaborates with other MS-office users (for proof just open a powerpoint-presentation in ooffice) and games (although that has improved).
Games are the reason i use Windows, it's quite frankly a bigger choice of games and less hassle. But I'll switch to Linux for my next computer (and maybe even the current one), as Microsofts plans with AI-integration and recall, effectively puting a spy in my computer, are downright scary, especially in the age of political hypercorrectness. I'll likely have a Windows-VM for office stuff in its nice little sandbox. So if anyone convinced me of using Linux on my private computer it's Microsoft.
On the business side MS-office is likely the biggest selling point for Windows, there is typically a legacy of office documents and exchange of documents with others who use office, and nobody wants the additional headache reformatting the stuff so it looks neat in Open-Office.
MS Office works through browser in every OS, like Google suite.
The software on Linux is not always better.
I use KDE plasma 6.1.4 at this moment . (Fedora 40). And the sddm login's do not all work.
Somehow they changed something and it is not downward compatible.
I like Linux, but it is not better than MACOS our Windows.
Blame Fedora for only offering a partial update.
No problems with Plasma 6.1.5 (at this moment already official released probably a week or so ago) and sddm here. I use Arch, btw. (nocking on wood)
"I use KDE plasma 6.1.4 at this moment . (Fedora 40). And the sddm login's do not all work."
Fedora is not the ready product. You need to pay subscription to get Red Hat Enterprise. That is the ready product for production. Also last time I check, KDE was really optional there. Default that Red Hat is focusing is Gnome. Fedora is similar to Windows insider.
So your comment doesn't apply. Use ready products made for production and don't mess every option you can change.
@@midimax2998That’s the thing you need to understand. End user shouldn’t be concerned with the blame game. They want a polished product that just works.
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There is, Red Hat Enterprise.
"Fedora" is a hat, same company brand but that Fedora thingy is not the polished product, it is the latest tech proving ground that is available for free for developers. It is not intended to end users.
Other companies work similar way. Microsoft has Windows insider, for Suse Enterprise, there is openSuse. Canonical works differently in Ubuntu, while prodcution versions are marked with LTS, but between them they release 3 preview versions for developers.
NodeJS has adopted Canonical style and also Microsoft has adopted that on .NET releases.
So if end user want to polished product that just works, then use the polished product and not some unfinished preview version.
@@albatross7 "polished product" Linux mint!?
I'm sure enough "end users" blame Microsoft (at least sometimes) and stick with it regardless.
What someone want and what someone gets, if Fedora fails to polish / test their KDE product / packages and deliver a none working combination (sddm is practically the default for KDE) it is maybe not a game to "blame" them.
End users would probably blame Linux, though.
"It's all about preference. I prefer that you prefer my preferred OS."
"oh, you have a right for your opinion? then i have a right for my opinion and my opinion is you have no right for your opinion. then sh00t the fvck and walk away"(c)george carlin
Lol funny to critique them, the optimal is to use the OS that suits one's uses 👍 (Dualbooting/Triplebooting/VM are usually the way to go if the PC can handle it)
these people are nuts. and i mean it in a clinical sense. it's not even about manipulating and forcing other people (which is bad ofcourse) - it's just about how crazy this is in and if itself. imagine a person saying that they need to convince people to wear nike instead of puma. you hear that, you know they are delusional.
Now is the 7 foot tall man with a firearm forcing everyone to use Linux in the room with us right now?
@@neilpatrickhairless nice strawman, bro, tells everything upfront.
I tried using linux years ago. I did want to move away from windows.
But windows is just so much easier to use on day-to-day basis.
Installing the drivers and all of the neccessary shit on linux was a nightmare.
If I have to open a console window and type in commands regularly, have to mount my hard drives and give myself rights before I can access them, and all that other stupid shit that the OS could do on its own like windows.
That shit is just too annyoing.
I don't enjoy pretending to be a master hacker or something.
Look, it's nonsense that I need to look up 3 different tutorials on how to setup some stuff when I can do a double click in windows.
Linux distros were a mess IMO back when I first tried (2002ish) but about 5 years ago it got much better with Mint and now MX Linux and a few others.
I prefer MX Linux over Windows 11 for most tasks, that said, even if it were not the case I'd suggest running Mint, MX Linux or a top distro from a removable SSD.
MS is putting in the planks IMO for digital verification just to use your PC. Files put on OneDrive (Download, desktop, pictures..), TPM 2.0/secure boot, Bitlocker by default encrypting all of your drives, MS Account required, Recall not un-installable and so forth.
It might soon be like Faceb**k - I went to get a new account and they wanted by photos and biometric data to get an account (so I didn't). Of course, under the BS excuse it is to stop bots or some other BS.
I'm not sure that one day very MS won't want me to 'unlock' usually facial and other biometric data, put in a global ID, all just to unlock my OS and decrypt my drives - even if I am not planning to be on the web. Of course it will be for connivence, ensure security, keep underage people out or whatever but the real goal is complete control over your PC and monitoring your actions.
These moves by MS are part of a long term plan. Driods/ChomeOS, Apples iOS/macOS - same issues.
So the more people can have Linux (or something) as a plan "B" the better - if everyone just keeps allowing this we won't have any freedom soon.
I don't care if people use Windows or Linux or what, your credit card numbers stay the same regardless.
Change the word "Linux" to "Scientology," and it becomes even more frightening, lol. Then change "switched" to "converted." That guy thinks he's playing chess when he's playing checkers.
i use linux like nixos and fedora 41 and i also watching this video on a mac mini m1 and my asus desktops use windows 11 so I like them all ... :)
Hey let me tell you about Jesus Chri...i mean Linux. Cultish behavior.
Let me convince you to our wonderful religion the Jehovah's Witnesses... if you don't do things our way you are all doomed to hell for all eternity! Yeah, Linux people sound like fundamentalists.
Hey let me tell you my opinion on any given subject even though not a single person on the planet asked for it... Sounds like MAGA. An actual cult
Yeah yeah freedom of speech Constitution bla bla, bla bla. Doesn't exist on the universal internet, unfortunately
Christianity isn't a "cult" it is a mainstream religion.
@@fernandoperez8587was burning woman alive because she do some witch craft like discovering how to make 1chicken nugget
Christianity real or fake
🤣🤣🤣Hello Johnny Boy I am Open 4 Business lol hahaha, Good One.
Propaganda is the right word. I don't recommend Linux so that people don't come to me later and ask me a thousand questions. If someone uses a Linux distribution or something else, then please do so out of your own interest and motivation. Trying to convince someone to do something is the wrong way. BTW: The road to hell is paved with good deeds.
how do get the viewing statistics in the bottom right?
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Linux fanboys need to understand not everyone wants to use linux based on their personal wants and needs.
2025, the year of gnu/linux desktop !!
Most people don't know about Linux. If Linux came pre installed on PCs you'd have more awareness but microsoft makes sure that doesn't happen. They got to hear about it somewhere. Linus is better. It's not for everyone but everyone should try it.
It's not better, but still everyone should try to make use of it. There a plenty of users who just run a browser for most things these days, Linux can do that.
I agree with this 100% i came to linux because i want it i was interested in linux but that was on my own terms ))))
Hey! Hey! My Ethernet cable isn't tiny.....it's slightly below average 😂
Too many people who rush to linux will ruin it for those of us who have used it for years. I don't care if people are happy with a sub standard os.
Windows? NO TY !!!
ya, but I use arch. everyone should use arch dammit. we are the king!!! /sarcasm also , i really do use arch. :P(i had to do it...sorry)
I hate most linux youtubers now
So why Windows comes pre installed in all new PC's. You are hypocrite!
Because it actually works with everything ;)
I saw in one of our retails pre built pcs were all coming with freedos installed...so by your analogy those poor souls that bought them are still on freedos
Because Windows runs the applications that most people care about: Office, TurboTax, multi-player games, Adobe, etc. I wish Linux ran those things, but unfortunately it doesn't.
@@dansanger5340i dont know what even terminal is nor i do know how to use cmd and i even need to write down command like sfc n dism or something on wall for accurate purposes
A year ago my windows keep failing auto repair then my smartass look for how to repair on UA-cam and i tried then next day I'm at hp store and the guy said "unfixable" so bro erased everything i did in last two years
Dude install windows with new license and refuse to install on my ssd that already inside then i have to migrate os hard drive to ssd my own
I grow out to like win11 file explorer now a lot and it make so easy for organizing my files compare to win10 file explorer but it get freeze which end up black screen then i have to restart and very slow and drag n drop in address bar suck ass
I tried one commander for once but its looks so hideous and not ideal for what needed for which basically organizing personal files like video collection music location movie collection list goes on
I do play games sometimes but get bored playing so gaming is not my thing
So switching to linux worth it for my use of case
So, I do have a counterpoint here; I have family members that I don't want to have to deal with the results of Recall storing their PII unencrypted on MS's datacenters. This is a matter of the safety of people I care about.
Similarly, Recall is also proof that Linux is more secure than Windows; there's huge, weak attack surface that Linux just doesn't have, unless you volunteer for it in some way.
I'm leaving after about three and change minutes, because you are already demonstrating the same closed-minded, biased mindset you accuse the content you're reviewing of. The rest of your channel also appears to be in transparent bad faith. Best of luck to you, anyways.
In other words, you're spreading FUD about a feature that hasn't been released, and will only be available on a tiny subset of Windows machines that meet specific hardware requirements?
@@dansanger5340 There's no uncertainty or doubt about it, and my family are well aware that an unsupported version of Windows is also an enormous problem. Fear, however, is fully warranted.
I am keeping the people close to me safe; you should too.
@@CloudCuckooKing Are you keeping them safe from the actual CUPS vulnerability, or just from speculative vulnerabilities on a Recall feature that hasn't been released yet?
@@dansanger5340 The CUPS vulnerability that's already been patched? Or the stated design goal of Recall?
@@CloudCuckooKing The CUPS vulnerability on a particular machine isn't patched until the available patch is actually installed. Has everyone proactively installed the patch? Until they have, they are especially vulnerable, because now all the bad guys know about the vulnerability. The theoretical Recall vulnerability is that some future unknown exploit (similar to the CUPS vulnerability) would allow the Recall database to be exfiltrated. Of course, if the system is already compromised to that extent, the Recall database is just one of many pieces of data that could be exfiltrated.
Jehovah's witnesses of the tech world
rust devs
Using Linux is about refusing to be locked in to a corporate standard. Linux is a community driven efforts built by volunteers.
Entertaining reaction.
I'm gonna stop here a third of the way through. This feels like the kind of thing where the whole reaction is just the same reaction you had to the thumbnail alone. Ya, you hate the concept of the video I get it, but it's not fun to watch half an hour of it. At the very least edit it to just your main talking points if you do have any, especially when it's an overtly negative piece.
You sound danish :D
I disagree with you. Many users don't even know what Linux is. So, naturally, when introduced to it fear of the unknown sets in. Most users are not techies so it is obvious that they would have second thoughts. Plus, Windows has dominated the industry for so long it is no wonder the world at large is used to it. I believe that only those who are fed up of the Windows shenanigan look for alternatives. I for one am looking for alternatives because, frankly, Windows has gotten worse with all the snitching and control that it imposes and it's worse with Windows 11. I for one just want a computer that I can use freely without my data being sold and watched and in some case changed. Now with AI things will get worse for individual's data who use the usual OS's and Cel Phones. Linux does not spy on you like Windows and others. So it is said that Linux is safe what is meant is that it is safe from company's and government spying on you. Privacy is the key. Though nothing is one hundred percent Linux is by far better as privacy is concerned. Though there is a slight learning curve. No convincing here, just facts.
a cult
1:10 no men you wrong.If all companys do like you said we newer will be have Coca-cola, iPhone etc.
buggest strengths of linux are also it's biggest flaw. there is no one default unbreakable distribution anyone with no computer knowledge can just use without learning anything
many normies just run windows admin account on default settings, they bought windows 7 or 8 computer and just let it update to 10 and it remain somewhat familiar and didn't hinder anything in theyre workflow of watching cat videos and paying bills and i mean it is technically the same installation of windows with all accumulated junk from 15 years of computer use
if grub was as easy to use a refind, and there was a single session long term support default linux already on the computer and terinal wasn't neded to anything besically if linux wasn't linux people would probably use it more but if using operating system require active thinking i don't think many people would use it because one console popup, one failed login or update causes a panic attack after a wall of unfamiliar small text that would be a short road to stop using it, and no mater if you like blue screens or not they might be a joke for many but they are not as scary as being droped to shell prompt for no reason