How to Shou Sugi Ban - Colored Dyes and Stains
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- This week I update my Original Shou Sugi Ban video to include new tips and tricks!
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Hey guys! I added mugs and stickers to the Merch store! The mugs have my logo on one side and "Probably Whiskey" printed on the other! Check them out when you get a chance! Thanks for the support!!
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Dang. I just had a friend make me a Probably Whiskey sticker with her vinyl cutter. I have been loving your channel. I stumbled across it a couple of weeks ago and I tip my Jameson glass to you, Sir. I now want to burn everything in sight. I have even resurrected a wooden stool that had been sitting on my back porch for two years using this method. Cleanse it with fire! Anywho.... Thanks for the goofy dad approach. Imma gonna check out your Patreon now.... Makers unite.
@@naturaljenn Thanks Jenn!
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if I was building a medium sized jewelry box am I better off burning everything before or after I assemble everything ?
Yes. I usually burn my stock long and then cut it down.
Hi videos are awesome question how long do you leave the dye on for? And do you sand b4 clear?
Thanks, Russ!
I usually let it sit for about and hour, check on it and if it needs it I'll do another pass.
And I do not sand before clear coat. The nylon brush gets everything pretty smooth.
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After the burning and dyeing will these pieces be suitable for use with benches, picnic tables, etc. In other words, will the stain or charred area rub off on clothing or skin. Or will be topcoats seal the wood from causing that?
You need to use a topcoat.
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I have two questions. First, do you ever sand after the dye to flatten the grain that lifted from staining and how does it look? Second, I don't know where you are from but, I was wondering how the boat varnish you use would hold up in 100 degrees direct sunlight in the desert? Alot I have tried don't do well in the desert.
I don't sand after the dye because I want the texture.
I live in Houston. Like the desert only with 100% humidity! LOL
It holds up better than most other products. However, in order to get good UV resistance you need 6-7 coats. The good part is that's totally doable in a day because you only need an hour between coats.
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I had to use my fire extinguisher for the first time ever. I was shoveling saw dust into my wood stove. Fire jumped from the stove threw the air and caught the dust on the floor on fire.
Who’d a thought
That's why you've always gotta keep one on hand. Nobody sets out to light their shop on fire! LOL
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That's kind of like grain dust at a mill very volatile if exposed to a flame. You are lucky you had it on hand but lesson learned you won't forget glad you are ok
I have been researching shou sugi ban and your videos have been the best combination of information and entertainment. I do have a question. I am building a computer desk. Can you get a smooth finish for a desk top with dyed shou sugi ban? If so, how?
Thanks, Mike!
You've got 2 options. Probably more! LOL
1 - Do a lighter burn and skip the brush. You can still get the dark and light contrast with a lighter burn. You just don't get the texture.
2 - You could do an epoxy top coat and that would fill in the texture.
Does that help? If you have additional questions, DM me on Instagram @builddadbuild or email me at nick@builddadbuild.com
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@@BuildDadBuild Thanks. Fortunately I have some offcuts I can experiment with.
@@ekimnosettam right on! that's what it's all about!!
I might have missed it but which flap brush do you use? The 240, 120 or 80-grit?
Mainly the grey (80) and some detail work with the orange (120)
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@@BuildDadBuild thanks man
@@RossTrittipo sure thing!
Im watching new at this Ive ordered dye have you tried pressure washer to remove char?
I have not, but I've heard it's a completely viable solution.
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What’s the obsession with colored stained wood?
I keep getting requests to make more videos about them! LOL
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Stumbled here looking at doing a "rustic" multi layered stain for this barn door I'm building in my house. Great channel, you're very informative, hilarious and entertaining!!
Thanks, brother!
You might want to check out the finish I did on this desk:
ua-cam.com/video/U5A67-Pwxuo/v-deo.html
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Red ultra dye definitely my favourite 👍 keep on rocking Nick!
Thanks, Chris!
Cheers!!
So you use the Folkart ultra dye directly, right? It doesn't get mixed with water or lacquer thinner like the other stains/dyes you've featured?
Yup. I use the Folk Art right out of the bottle.
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@@BuildDadBuild Thanks!
cool video! Im going to have to try out these dying/staining tips for my next office desk build! Also, Im sorry your revenge plan was foiled by Keanu Reeves and Sandra Bullock.
She's a real Wildcat! LOL
Check out the desk I built here:
ua-cam.com/video/U5A67-Pwxuo/v-deo.html
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The red powder dye mixed with lacquer on a previous video turned out the best that I’ve seen you do so far. Definitely subscribing.
Thanks, brother!
And welcome to the Fray!
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Dude !!!🤙I love ya vids , I’m here in Australia 🇦🇺 u recon u got covid lockdowns there 🤪our country is s totally LOST 😞 but ya made me laugh 😆 a bit thanks buddy and pray to Jesus and thank him for the whiskey 🥃 he’s ok with it in moderation course 😂🥃🥃🥃🥃🥃🥃🥃🥃Amen 🙏 stay rad man keep the Kool stuff flowing for us to get some good tips tooo!
Right on Paul!
Cheers, buddy!!
Trying to find this Folk Art dye...all links lead to out of stocks on Amazon. And this stuff is expensive! I'm finding 8 oz cans from other retailers for prices ranging from $14.12 - $34.10. Such a price range for the same amount....8 oz! I love the stuff but it's four times the price as Varathane tintable base. Do you dilute the dye at all? That would certainly make it go farther and justify the higher price
Try here:
plaidonline.com/products/folkart-ultra-dye-colors-rendezvous-2-oz-3907
2 Questions: You mentioned "spraying" the wood while you burn it to prevent cupping/warping. What do you mean by spraying it (with what)? Also, the bristle drill bit you used to scrape out the char... what brand is that one? it looks like it has 1"-2" of surface coverage. The one I have is very narrow (maybe 1/2"), so it takes ages to sand down my boards. Thanks for the great video!
Hey Shane,
I spray the wood with water from a spray bottle to mitigate warping.
The brushes are Nyalox brushes from Dico. Here's the link:
amzn.to/3m7p6eC
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LOL, love the social distancing, delivered Whiskey! (I'm more of a rum runner.) I've found a few other food coloring videos as well, interested in seeing how those would come out with the Shou Sugi Ban. I'll have to check out your videos to see if you ever tried it. Great video!
Hey Nicole!
I have never tried food coloring. I might have to look into it!
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Dye is better because why would you want to lose any of the nice burn?!
Agreed. Although I was shocked at how the Unicorn Spit looked after the top coat. Prior to that it looked like paint on a board! LOL
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try as a final finish and preservative [w/shou sugi ban =100s of years?] method used by or similar to what usa forest service uses for exterior finish on log cabins: 1 gallon mineral spirits mixed with 16 oz boiled linseed oil mixed with 2 cubes melted canning wax out of a 4 cube box of canning wax. melt the wax in small metal container placed inside another pan with hot near boiling water then pour melted wax into solution of mineral spirits and boiled linseed oil then stir and paint on with a brush or spray........
It sounds pretty amazing!
Hurtsies? Eyesies? Lungsies? Stop with the technical terms. MY HEAD HURTS NOW!
His kids are probably tutoring him...in between bouts of gamer-yoga.
Everyone always says safety is boring...so I thought I would get ultra technical...
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Spring is here, it would be a great time to make those viking stargazer chairs
They are still on the radar! LOL
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I appreciate your videos. I am thinking about creating my own office desk using this technique. Have you tried this technique with butcher block? It would interesting to see how the wood would come out.
I have not. I'd be concerned about all of those edges that are to be tightly joined. The burn would pull those joints apart. Check out how the seams show back up when I laminated 2X4s together in this build.
ua-cam.com/video/-_CXfpdS-7I/v-deo.html
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I think I like the red dye, followed by red stain or yellow.
The darker colors probably need to be seen to be appreciated.
The dyes are water based, so if you are using a water based top coat, it will definitely pull some up into the brush. Another option would be to use a spray finish to put a 1st coat on, then use a brush for the following ones. I just did that to some crosses I did, that I applied a water based whitewash too.
The infamous venom..
Normally I'm not too concerned if it pulls a little of the dye. But I did receive a question about if you had a multicolored piece. And I have done a spray coat first too!
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How can we make Shou Sugi Ban Kitchen top ? It is possible to put tung oil after dye ?
Hey bud! I think I answered this on FB, right?
Could I use an oil from one of the big box stores to get the same results that you got using the Simple Finish?
Sure. Check out Boiled Linseed Oil. Cheap, and looks awesome!
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So i noticed you burn to a gator almost. I have been just going past marshmallow toasting on my 1/2" ply. Should i call it good at that? Or go deeper? Dont want to go through the layers of wood. I do like the slight dark strips. I probably wont get black, but my sunbleach stain shouldn't cover too much up.
Hey, Stacy!
Do not burn deep on plywood. You can burn through the top ply AND you can heat the glue up so much that it will cause bubbles.
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@@BuildDadBuild intuition pays off.
The green, and the dyed red....but hey- who am I kidding they all look bad ass.
Thanks, Sean!
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Did you add the Total Boat varnish on top of the SimpleFinish? I cannot find any reviews on the SimpleFinish, I’m wanting to use it for my bar table I’m making...but do not know if I will need to add a coat of Total Boat on top of it. Thanks and I love the videos!
I did not add Halcyon on top of the Simple Finish. The SF does a pretty good job by itself. However if you're making a table that is going to see a lot of traffic you'll probably have to reapply the finish every so often (like you would with any sort of oil finish.
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Build Dad Build Thanks!!!!
Hey nick
Hey bud!
If I am using powdered tints what stain or base to use to color the wood?
When I use powdered dyes, I just mix them with water. But I think you can mix them with denatured alcohol too...
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What kind of alcohol do you use with your food coloring on uour wood.
Isopropyl
How can i get that paint (color) in Mexico... Im sorry my english is realy bad...
Which color?
Build Dad Build red and blue
Hitchcock would be proud!!
I know I should get this reference...but...LOL
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Are longer screws stronger?
Hi Nick. Can you tell me the best drill attachment for removing burnt portions. I want my reds brilliant.
Sure thing! They're called Nyalox brushes by Dico.
Here's the link:
amzn.to/3ddVeJ4
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Does it matter what grit?
Hi Nick. I finished my project based on your video and it turned out awesome but not exactly as planned. How do I send you a picture.
I love the purple and the red die I'm gonna try find them in the uk
Thanks, brother.
I think I found the Red on Amazon UK
www.amazon.co.uk/Plaid-Craft-Folkart-Ultra-2Oz-Infra/dp/B072BWLN9P/ref=sr_1_fkmr1_2?dchild=1&keywords=Folk+Art+Ultra+Dye&qid=1585828219&sr=8-2-fkmr1
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I dig the Red and Purple Ultra as Well
Awesome! Thanks for the wicked content
Sure thing!
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Do I have to burn the wood to stain it with a color stain
No you do not.
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Brush attachment for sure! I am really excited to get started on my own projects!!
Awesome!
What the name colour powder to mixer paint
Which color?
The links are all in the description.
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Your voice reminds me of Beetlejuice 🤣
Beetlejuice from the Wack Pack or Michael Keaton?
Wow. I can see this process improving my woodturnings. Thanks
Which one is the one that comes out purple ??
Hey, Michael!
That is Folk Art Ultra Dye, the name of it is Rendezvous
amzn.to/37SG2Qw
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can you shou sugi ban wood pallet?
Sure can!
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My setting is set to be notified of any new videos but I am never notified.
Oh no!
Check to make sure notifications are turned on, on your phone. If you have it set up in UA-cam, but it's off on your phone you won't get the notifications.
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@@BuildDadBuild it’s set to allow notifications.
This definitely is a great comparison video..I'm gonna try dye out on my next projects for sure...Keep Crushing It!!
Stay HUMBLE, Stay HUNGRY, Stay FOCUSED...~The Jarhead Entrepreneur
Will do!
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Red dye looks better than the stain.
Agreed!
This is absolutely splendid.
Thank you.
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The COVID has got ya , the worms are coming out your ears! Nice Video ! Seriously . I cant find the dam Folk Art Red dye and I'm trying to do a wood flag like yours but burned shugi like for my dads birthday! Wal Mart online is about the only place i found it. I think your video is selling it out!
Thanks!
And LOL
Check plaidonline.com/
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We are redecorating our entire living room and the walls are blue. I am considering making the fourth wall with wood panelling, maybe shou sugi ban (brown or blue) but the selection of stain and especially dye is very slim here in Denmark. Anyone know how to get it to Europe for a reasonable price?
Check out Keda Wood Dye's website. I'm pretty sure they ship internationally.
www.kedadyeinc.com/
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Red dye for sure, but that’s a preference thing. I think the wood accepts the red dye best and it’s the least blotchy. One question on that Halcyon varnish; when it’s totally cured on that pine, can you dent it with your fingernail? I’ve been using wipe-on poly to get away from the stink of lacquer but it’s still not as durable as I’d like it to be, even after multiple coats and plenty of cure time. Thanks in advance!
This desk has 3 coats of Halcyon on it and takes my everyday abuse just fine. I actually dropped a mic arm on it and no dent...
ua-cam.com/video/U5A67-Pwxuo/v-deo.html
And I agree the red contrasts well with the dark of the grain.
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What you recommended for mahogany finish.
Hey Carlos! Are you finishing mahogany wood? Or do you want mahogany color?
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@@BuildDadBuild I've the dining table and the bedroom from my father's. I'm restoring and those are mahogany.
Good tip to heat and clamp cupped boards if you're not using a jointer and planer. The stains/dyes turned out great! Keep up the great work as the goal is to inspire others to build something awesome!
Absolutely!
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I wanna know more about that smoked whiskey. Liked the video. Wanna try the dyes. Can’t find the stains I want locally except for red barn wood. But then again, right now locally is harder to get most anything
Hey, brother!
I did a video on how to smoke whiskey a while back:
ua-cam.com/video/1MFnGkN5pNk/v-deo.html
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Just gorgeous! Love them all, but the red dye piece and the purle piece are my favorites! I've been looking for a new way to color my pieces, and have now found it, thanks to you. Thank you for sharing, beautiful work!
Thanks, Angela!
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Does spraying water really help with warping? Also how soon after you burn the wood are you spraying it? Love your videos.
Yes. And spray as you go. pass with the torch, hit it with a couple spritzes of water.
What if you tried mixing dye with a stabilizing resin in a vacuum chamber? That'd ensure maximum penetration for sure. I have zero experience in the subject BTW, just a thought, lol.
That might work on smaller pieces...but as they got bigger you'd need a pretty big vacuum pot. Not to mention how time consuming that would be.
The penetration I'm getting is totally fine. I was getting questions on why I didn't dye the wood first and then burn...
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Are you sanding the first coat of varnish and then applying the second? I never thought about dying the wood. Now youre gonna make me spend money!! They look great!
I do not.
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So Dan: Which wood dye do you think looks best in burnt wood, Folk Art Ultra Dye or Keda Wood Dye?
Who's Dan?
The Keda Wood Dye has a more organic look. And I like that.
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Hey Nick, Have you ever tried soda blasting and then using a wood dye. Thanks Jerry
I have not. I actually had to look up soda blasting...LOL
Sounds pretty cool.
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I was the hundredth like. So you have 100 likes and 1 wrong guy at this point lol.
Thanks, brother!
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Lov it am gonna try that on my table i am building for my camper but need to find a blow tourch i like all the colors together , also love whiskey ,
Awesome! And that torch is amazing.
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I'm going to try and ignore the fact that you chose not to dye any of those boards orange. Even so, I guess this can still be called a good video. Cheers!
If you mix the red board with the yellow board...🤣
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@@BuildDadBuild 😂
Well crap I didn't get signed up for Instagram fast enough to win. Either way keep it up. Have a drink for me.
I'm sure there will be another give away in the future!
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red dye and purple
Good taste!
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Yes @3:20 lol ..
😜 Gotta make sure folks are paying attention!
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Awesome colors as always, have to get some of the folk art dyes when I get a chance just for some wicked colors man, good update with a lot of good info, maybe you could build a dog bed for your new pup out of the scrap👍🤘 keep it up man
Thanks, brother!
I have been considering building a dog crate...but gotta get the pup first!
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We use the red Unicorn Spit and if you water it down, you can achieve the same result as you got with the Folk Art. Of course we had to get all the folk art since you suggested trying it! Thanks for keeping us all entertained and its great learning from you also. You mentioned that your wife had to get tested, how did she make out? You and your family are in our thoughts. Thanks again!
Hey, Jeri!
Thanks for watching!!
My wife just found out that she is negative for COVID-19. We are very relieved. Thanks for asking!
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I have to admit, at around :22 I involuntarily emit poorly suppressed squeekyfarts listening to that little shriekyvoice hollering "CORONAVIRUS!!"" My bad. I need to make it a tapeloop....
Check Tiktok...it's all over the place there!
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Gassy laugh tracks...it's what they give me at 71. Either that, or I've made beans-and-rice a culinary fetish.
Good stuff!
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I just finished up a big job burning and dyeing 17 tables red. I sanded them to 220 first before burning and when they were done they had a metallic like finish. I couldn’t tell from the video if your non sanded boards looked like that as well. Also, to help reduce cupping and twist I burnt the bottom of the tables as well, not as deep though.
I've gotten similar results.
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Found this when looking for a way to give my new desk some vibrance and depth. I try not to buy tools if I'm just using them for one project, especially more specialized ones. Are you aware of any attachments or add-ons that can make a regular propane torch a little more suited to burning large surfaces?
Yes.
This bad boy will increase your output significantly.
amzn.to/2TrF5IL
You can see me using it in this video:
ua-cam.com/video/_xBfDdlaZ18/v-deo.html
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just happen to come across yours and love it . What is better the dye or stain ?
Some of it depends on application. But for the most part I like dyes over stains. I feel like it penetrates deeper into the wood and allows more of the wood grain to show through.
Clinkies!
When you're using the Folk Art dye do you dilute it at all? Thank you! Great video!
I use it straight out of the bottle.
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Hey dude, which one did you use to get the purple? You said the blue? Didn't see it in the link, wanted to use your affiliate link. Thanks! Epic videos man
Thanks, brother!
It's called Folk Art Ultra Dye
amzn.to/34Q0dN9
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@@BuildDadBuild Thank you!!! Keep up the good work. Love it. I'm not a fan of most youtube personalities but I like you.
Great work mate. Iv been followed your work for a while. Iv been using acrilic pain and finishing with varnish comes out great.. Thanks for the tips.... Keep the good work up
Thanks, Richard!
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trying to find a good Shou Sugi Ban build that I can add a turquoise blue color.. not navy or purple... it's going to be used on a porch with twilight sun, but mostly shade. Have you had a dye or stain that got a good bright blue?
Check out UNiCORN SPiT...they have a Teal
amzn.to/3e0OizN
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@@BuildDadBuild if i take steel wool to the high ridges on unicorn spit to get the black to pop a bit more, will it flake off the unicorn spit in the valleys? I've watched a few vids on the unicorn spit and it seems to hide the grain more than i want for what I am trying to accomplish.
I am interested in seeing either a bleach or white dye added after the wood is burnt.
Check out these two videos:
ua-cam.com/video/cpBP1A2UrPE/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/DoBWpOzGMXc/v-deo.html
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I'm not usually a purple person, BUT... I can be coerced by THAT.
It does look pretty slick, doesn't it?
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I’m looking to get a really good shine for a top coat, what do you suggest ?
Halcyon Clear Rugged Varnish by Total Boat.
totalboat.refr.cc/nickv1
If it's your first order with Total Boat use promo code builddadb for 15% off!
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Do you always work drunk or buzzing.?
Not at all.
Could you make gold or maybe glitter in the natural dark stain?!! I’m curious if that possible?
I don't see why not.
That fully burnt yellow that you wouldn't kick out of bed mentioned on other video. Amazing! Thank you for details!
Sure thing. I was trying to address my most commonly asked questions.
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Red dye all the way! I agree with you about the dye vs stain, the dye lets the burnt color come through but the stain kinda covers it up. I am new to wood working, as I do not have a creative touch at all, but your videos have given me some ideas and instruction, thanks!
Sure thing, brother! Let me know if you have any questions.
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I have to tell you Nick... You're so entertaining to watch. Love it! Red Ultra Dye ( can't remember actual name) but the red dye none the less!
Thanks, Maria!
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Don't get it delivered... Make your own 😁
Word.
Thanks for the video but, talk too much
Sorry brother.
Check out Jodee over at Inspire Woodcraft. You'll probably like his personality more.
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Hey Nick, thanks for the tutorial. Do you ever do this technique on Osb board? I’m building a shed/music studio. The internal walls and floor are all osb. I want to try this technique on the walls.
Hey Eric!
I have not done this to OSB. I think you'd have to go with a lighter burn as to not over heat the glue holding the OSB together. You might want to try a test piece first.
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@@BuildDadBuild ok ya got me on board new subscriber here anybody that loves whiskey and wood is my kind of people. Keep them coming very entertaining.
жаль,не на русском
Sorry
I like your work keep it up and that's dope to teaches how precious wood is
Thank you.
And I'm not going anywhere! LOL
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I used the red dye on my van build. I also added some water to my dye when I applied it. Thanks for the videos.
You're welcome!
Van build? I need to know more about this...LOL
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Love the video, please try the food coloring. I use it almost exclusively.
Might have to check it out!
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What’s up Nick. All the colors came out great. It’s weird that when you use the blue dye it turns purple but when I’ve tried the blue I got the nice blue color. I think it might be the burning that might cause that, it completely sure but it’s strange.
urns out the dye I have is actually a violet. The packaging is blue (ish) so I always thought it was blue (and it's called Rendezvous...so unhelpful). But if you read the Spanish portion of the label it states "violeta". So, I think I've just been wrong this whole time. LOL
Build Dad Build oh man lol I guess that makes sense for the color. It’s still a really good looking purple.
@@BuildDadBuild maybe the whiskey lol.
What’s the wood look like with dye and no burn?
There's a lot of videos out there that detail wood dyeing. I specialize in burnt wood finishes. You might want to check out Keda Wood Dye's channel.
ua-cam.com/users/wooddye1
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Is there any way to soak the wood in the dye to have the core of the wood dyed as well?
I get this question a lot.
The short answer is yes. However, unless you're doing it to a very small piece you'd need to use quite a bit of dye and I don't know how long you'd have to let it sit in there. If you used a pressure pot it might make it quicker?
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Do you sand in between top coats?
Rarely. You've got enough texture there to hide any slight imperfections.
I've only ever sanded if I have an issue with a coat of finish (drips, etc)
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Love red but purple is gorgeous too!
Agreed. That's my best attempt at purple to date! It's my white whale! LOL
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