How does Hasan justify the annexation of Crimea but not the annexation of the Donbass ? I would honestly respect Hasan more if we would just say "yes I support Russia. I believe that Russia winning hurts America and is good for building a multi polar world" but he keeps saying he supports Ukraine despite clearly not doing so.
I mean, all polling suggests Crimeans mostly want to be Russian. Does this justify how Russia acquired the territory? Obviously not, but in a hypothetical Ukrainian campaign to take back the peninsula tens of thousands of people would die to achieve an outcome that the majority of people involved don’t want.
Are you serious? Loner box compared Yoav Gallant, a wanted war criminal to Mustafa Barghouti, a peace activist, and claimed Mustafa said derogatory things that there is no record of him even saying (on google at least).
@@fuhgawz3636 Unironically reading the wikipedia page on any of these subjects they talk about with authority makes you better learned then them. Most of the time they don't even have to lie. I can easily find sins that the Isreali state had committed without glazing Hezbollah or Hamas. As was done in the Al-Ahi Hospital example. Lonerbox said it best "Not only did his guy throat Hamas propaganda he embellished it he Rift off of it" Recent events the past few years makes you disillusioned of where you get your information from and the lack of standards from these borderline lying propagandists.
Hi mr. box, I've been enjoying your gaming streams and I understand that you're burned out on conflict content. In this video you expressed an exhaustion with the lack of accountability for bad takes. I also know you spent significant time tracking casualties on a spreadsheet, I wonder if you could apply that same mentality to tracking bad takes by journalists/content creators. It would be good to have it documented somewhere, and if you were willing to track it in excel I could help you build formulas to measure things like how frequently creators make accurate vs inaccurate first takes, how frequently they revise their bad takes, an index score for good faith content creation, etc. You could be a data-driven political content watchdog.
Even if he did this it wouldn’t provide accountability for those folks, LB can’t enforce it lol unfortunately it wouldn’t provide accountability, it would probably lead to Lb getting burnt out quicker on those subjects
@38:50 hearing this guy talk about how horrible the west is while having a giant cutout of Queen Elizabeth with Xs on her eyes after celebrating her death is an irony I dont think he or his audience will ever care to realize
That was the weirdest Hasan take by the way. Celebrate'ing her dying means litterally nothing. Another king or queen just take their place. If you are anti-monarchy, a old lady dying doesnt change anything. I guess it makes sense with just being preformative, like Hasan.
I can think the best possible things about a defense minister - if someone is the head of an army, he is not a 1:1 comparison to someone who's being highlighted specifically for being nonviolent
No Palestinian military commander will ever be allowed to say that Gaza has a right to "defend itself" by invading and defeating Israel. There are reasons for that, but that's why asking for a 1:1 equivalent is silly
When Hasan is talking to chat during the Houthi call, he sounds exactly like a kid who's on a crank call talking to his friends about what to say next. It's so embarrassing.
Can someone explain how is Barghouti a "moderate voice", and a "candidate" to facilitate peace? Like, I know Destiney said it multiple times, so I assume LonerBox is just conveying the same sentiment.. But in what world a convicted terrorist is a person that the Israeli government would be willing to negotiate for a peace treaty?
The same as in Garland being a moderating voice while previously advocating for treating Palestinians as animals. If we had actors who are squeaky clean then this wouldn't be a point of discussion: "You have to deal with what's been given to you."
@@PuddingXXL Sure, but that's not equivalent. Dehumanizing rhetoric is not the same as being convicted for murdering the people you'd want to make peace with. If you just go on his wiki page, he calls for a 3rd intifada, he was regarded as the leader of the 1st and 2nd intifada, convicted of murdering and orchestrating the murder and suicide bombings of israelis.. Nothing seems like this guy has any intent to even be a leader championing peace with Israel. The only thing I could say, is that he is a person the Palestinian people do regard as a leader.. Which is in and of itself abit concerning.. And another anecdote, during the Gilad Shalit prisoner exchange, it was reported that Israel refused to exchange him. You can easily understand from that, that the Israeli government (let alone the people) are much distained by this man and would not be willing to having him as a negotiation partner. So, I'll ask again, what part of this person does Lonerbox see in him that would imply he is a reasonable mediator for a peace deal? (Other than being an influential voice in the Palestinian community)
@LonerBox I really appreciate the analysis you did at around 12:00 ~ 14:00. I'm going to reference this video if someone ever wants evidence about how bad Hamas is. I'm also interested in the research you plan to do into other US global involvement (such as protective edge, as you mentioned)
it bothered me that you made it sound like Asmongold was right wing or that he hates LGBT people. because I'm fans of you both and he has always defended LGBT people and he's always been openly liberal so to call him right wing is similar to calling destiny right wing. he regrets this comment he made that was indeed absurd, but to pretend he only ever talks about gays as a reference to Muslims is insane lol
The LA homeless people should annex Hasans house, see how he likes it.
Hasan's justification for Crimean annexation also justifies annexation of the west bank.
Can't blame him too much, he didn't know that Israel-Palestine was going to be an issue he was going to care about yet
Or his justification for what China is doing to the Uyghurs pretty much allows the US and Canada to do the same to their Native American populations.
Lonerbox reacting to Hasan reacting to Bad Empanada reacting to Willymac reacting to Hasan reacting to the war
react-ception, someone needs to pull them out..
How does Hasan justify the annexation of Crimea but not the annexation of the Donbass ? I would honestly respect Hasan more if we would just say "yes I support Russia. I believe that Russia winning hurts America and is good for building a multi polar world" but he keeps saying he supports Ukraine despite clearly not doing so.
Because Russia needs Crimea unlike Donbas
@ they don’t “NEED” crimea. They want crimea. Kinda adds to the comment ur replying to’s point
I mean, all polling suggests Crimeans mostly want to be Russian. Does this justify how Russia acquired the territory? Obviously not, but in a hypothetical Ukrainian campaign to take back the peninsula tens of thousands of people would die to achieve an outcome that the majority of people involved don’t want.
@chewchewtrain my bet would be that Ukraine would allow the Russian-identifying pop to immigrate to Russia :)
@@falconeshield They don't technically need Crimea but once again why do they need Crimea but not Donbass ?
Tankies are so lazily uninformed they get owned by a drama youtuber lmao
They still gush about Stalin despite the fact that his own people were happy when he finally croaked. These guys must've frowned at the 2017 movie.
Not surprising.
Drama youtube is all about receipts.
Tankies are all about the ends justifying the means, including lies.
@@falconeshieldThe Death of Stalin?
Are you serious? Loner box compared Yoav Gallant, a wanted war criminal to Mustafa Barghouti, a peace activist, and claimed Mustafa said derogatory things that there is no record of him even saying (on google at least).
@@wezbrum9430the misunderstanding seems almost willful at this point
Willy Mac should do a vid on Bad empanada’s history of doxing
And how he escaped to Argentina
@@donovanlocust1106 Dont let Milei find out
@SteveVJones AFUERA!
WM did respond to BE, though never did a full-on video on him.
@@donovanlocust1106 Just like a lot of other nazis
1:23:31 Timhouthi actually posts a picture of the west Bank being nuked, this is too rich
Willson Macklemore comes through with another JDam
Flashback to when Hasan tried to identify a jdam and thought that war video game footage was IRL
We have Lonerbox reacting to Hassan reacting to Bad Empanada reacting to Willy Mac Show reacting to Hassan
6:57 "why is it made of wood?" because it is a witch
Lets see how far down the react rabbit hole this will go
Tankies don't care and are so misinformed. That briefly reading a wikipedia page makes you more qualified to talk on a subject.
I’d honestly trust a Wikipedia article than anything these tankie “journalists” say 😂
@@fuhgawz3636 Unironically reading the wikipedia page on any of these subjects they talk about with authority makes you better learned then them.
Most of the time they don't even have to lie. I can easily find sins that the Isreali state had committed without glazing Hezbollah or Hamas. As was done in the Al-Ahi Hospital example. Lonerbox said it best "Not only did his guy throat Hamas propaganda he embellished it he Rift off of it"
Recent events the past few years makes you disillusioned of where you get your information from and the lack of standards from these borderline lying propagandists.
I guess the Golan is part of Israel since they annexed it 😺
willymac is my spirit animal
Hi mr. box, I've been enjoying your gaming streams and I understand that you're burned out on conflict content. In this video you expressed an exhaustion with the lack of accountability for bad takes.
I also know you spent significant time tracking casualties on a spreadsheet, I wonder if you could apply that same mentality to tracking bad takes by journalists/content creators. It would be good to have it documented somewhere, and if you were willing to track it in excel I could help you build formulas to measure things like how frequently creators make accurate vs inaccurate first takes, how frequently they revise their bad takes, an index score for good faith content creation, etc.
You could be a data-driven political content watchdog.
Even if he did this it wouldn’t provide accountability for those folks, LB can’t enforce it lol unfortunately it wouldn’t provide accountability, it would probably lead to Lb getting burnt out quicker on those subjects
would have to have a column for himself also
To be fair at Hasan at 55:00 ,Hasans videos should probably be considered a war crime and form of torture
@38:50 hearing this guy talk about how horrible the west is while having a giant cutout of Queen Elizabeth with Xs on her eyes after celebrating her death is an irony I dont think he or his audience will ever care to realize
found the bonger
That was the weirdest Hasan take by the way. Celebrate'ing her dying means litterally nothing. Another king or queen just take their place. If you are anti-monarchy, a old lady dying doesnt change anything.
I guess it makes sense with just being preformative, like Hasan.
I can think the best possible things about a defense minister - if someone is the head of an army, he is not a 1:1 comparison to someone who's being highlighted specifically for being nonviolent
No Palestinian military commander will ever be allowed to say that Gaza has a right to "defend itself" by invading and defeating Israel. There are reasons for that, but that's why asking for a 1:1 equivalent is silly
WillyWac W
Ah, willymac the great Israel and palestine debater. Comes back for some dubs.
Loner reacting to his own clips got me a bit confused at first.
Wait this isn't WoW hardcore clips
Is our favorite wow streamer now doing politics?
BigWillyMac
Big Willy Mac pulled out his Willy and smacked me silly.
More like BasedWillyMac
I'm the chatter he talked to, and I can confirm we all sound like that
Look at what’s allowed in twitch chat and what isn’t, I know, it’s not anything new
Watching a handsome guy react to a himbo reacting to a psycho’s reaction to a normal guy that’s reacting to the himbo.
What am I doing with my life?
When Hasan is talking to chat during the Houthi call, he sounds exactly like a kid who's on a crank call talking to his friends about what to say next. It's so embarrassing.
Hasan needs his subscription revoked.
Based loner vids 🎉😮
Because this is a reaction-reaction-reaction vid I only watched one minute and Iam leaving this for the almighty YT algorithm.
ahhh, a response, to a response, to a response, to a response, to a response, to Hasan
the circle of life, it's beautiful
dude why did you take me off your stream? I'm on your side.
1:37:30
I find this really funny given what our religious texts say. You can work your way down from the Torah and see how silly this question is
Mr. Box, you fail to realize that facts are irrelevant to the larger narrative 🤣
🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿
Can someone explain how is Barghouti a "moderate voice", and a "candidate" to facilitate peace?
Like, I know Destiney said it multiple times, so I assume LonerBox is just conveying the same sentiment.. But in what world a convicted terrorist is a person that the Israeli government would be willing to negotiate for a peace treaty?
The same as in Garland being a moderating voice while previously advocating for treating Palestinians as animals.
If we had actors who are squeaky clean then this wouldn't be a point of discussion:
"You have to deal with what's been given to you."
@@PuddingXXL Sure, but that's not equivalent.
Dehumanizing rhetoric is not the same as being convicted for murdering the people you'd want to make peace with.
If you just go on his wiki page, he calls for a 3rd intifada, he was regarded as the leader of the 1st and 2nd intifada, convicted of murdering and orchestrating the murder and suicide bombings of israelis..
Nothing seems like this guy has any intent to even be a leader championing peace with Israel.
The only thing I could say, is that he is a person the Palestinian people do regard as a leader.. Which is in and of itself abit concerning..
And another anecdote, during the Gilad Shalit prisoner exchange, it was reported that Israel refused to exchange him. You can easily understand from that, that the Israeli government (let alone the people) are much distained by this man and would not be willing to having him as a negotiation partner.
So, I'll ask again, what part of this person does Lonerbox see in him that would imply he is a reasonable mediator for a peace deal? (Other than being an influential voice in the Palestinian community)
7:00 Do you respect wood?
Wood watches. I was really interested in them for a while .
Jesus, watching debate bros reinvent the sophistry wheel is painful. Just hangup your headphones with some dignity
Isn’t that NicholasDeOrio guy like one of those crypto fascist dudes too?
Source?
@@Jangtang its a hasan quote lmao
Even Hasan's clip channels don't post as much Hasan content as LonerBox does.
Hamasanabi, the Steven Seagal of online political commentary 👨🏻
@LonerBox I really appreciate the analysis you did at around 12:00 ~ 14:00. I'm going to reference this video if someone ever wants evidence about how bad Hamas is.
I'm also interested in the research you plan to do into other US global involvement (such as protective edge, as you mentioned)
Release the hostages!
Better than being a shameful propagandist
Really wonder why you’re all so smiley while putting so much effort into protecting Israel from criticism as Palestinians continue to be murdered
"na7nu qawm yo7ibb el mawt kama to7ibbouna al 7ayat!"
Next minute, some western leftoid: "Muh the pals being murdered maan"
Empanadatards in the comments thinking they can press loner
@@dontcare9974 idiot
@@dontcare9974 thanks for going mask off i guess
and we wonder why the pro pali acting like hammas pr team and cheer leders. As palis being killed
WillyIDFShow, and ZionBox
More 911panada and hamas piker
Dix0n your moms face
Azan "Babysettlers" Piker
First
it bothered me that you made it sound like Asmongold was right wing or that he hates LGBT people. because I'm fans of you both and he has always defended LGBT people and he's always been openly liberal so to call him right wing is similar to calling destiny right wing. he regrets this comment he made that was indeed absurd, but to pretend he only ever talks about gays as a reference to Muslims is insane lol
Release the hostages!!