MSI is the benchmark for consumer mobos in my opinion, cant really go wrong with them and the BIOS GUI is some of the best out there. Thanks Mike and Kath.
i agree, expect the AM5 range started off rather hit and miss, but like i said in the stream, i will definitely be looking at that again soon with fresh eyes and updated BIOS to see where we are at the beginning of 2024
Nice to see how every generation the "model name" spec improves. B550 gaming plus look entry level whereas this Z790 versions looks high spec. With all those m.2s no need for sata ssds. Assume not shared ports. What psu is needed for 2x8 cables? Thanks for reviewing & will look forward to updates Mike and Kath 🐈👍
yeah the price keeps rising with the specs though :-) no shared PCIe lanes the Z790 chipset fills in the gaps where needed. and PSU wise i would think 650w or more really for a balanced system, you don't really need the extra EPS CPU plug unless you are really gunning it
Hi Mike, right in time with this review as I wanted to purchase it myself for my 14700k build. I have one dilemma: I wanted to get 32 gb of corsair 7200 mhz ram but for stability reasons i am inclined to go for the 6000 mhz ones. What is your take on this? Would i be ok with the 7200 ones?
7200mhz is the staple and the best bang for your buck ram... you get huge improved 1% lows and higher over all frame rate. Personally bought this motherboard and tbh its everything you need. this motherboard in my opinion is the best bang for your buck z790 motherboard. Great purchase if you do decide to snag one!
Great review Mike.Nice looking board as someone who is a MSi nut.Would like to see a review of the Tomahawk version of this one as l intend to upgrade my editing pc in the new year 👏⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
that might be a good idea, and if you still want me to build your new pc, i am more than willing to do so, but if you want to enjoy the experience yourself i totally get it
@@mikesunboxing l like this Lian Li case and fans.So would you be willing to upgrade my mobo,cpu,NVME M.2 drive,and do fresh windows 10 install,and set the pc up for me on a live stream possibly.❤️
@@mikesunboxing ok,thank you.l look forward to it.l need to constrain my spending till new year.l financed a first car for my 17yr old great nephew today;so my plans for my pc have had to be postponed
Very nice board indeed Mike. It is Rick approved. 😄 You have probably already built your system. Just wondering if you used high end thermal paste such as Thermal Grizzly? That i9-13900k is a hot beast when pushed. Thanks for sharing Mike and Lady Kath. Take care everyone and be safe. Cheers
cheers rick! currently i am using the MX6 with a slight undervolt and it idles around 30c and gets to mid seventies under all core loads, so i am pretty happy with that
Thank you very much i couldnt find anything really useful here on UA-cam regarding this board. The funny thing is its one of the only cheaper boards that has those 2 usb3 front panel connectors. I am not using 2 of my case ports since my current board is missing them 🤣
hi mike, your review was very helpful, now I pretty much figured out what this motherboard can give me, and I think this is the most ideal for me now the problem and find all the other components. according to you what can be a good build around 500 euros? obviously considering houses, fans, gpu, ram, ssd, etc... in any case maximizing performance at the expense of appearance, is not a computer that will be seen easily. P.S. I’ll watch some more of your videos to understand more about the components that I should get.
Hello Mike were you able to figure out the bottom PCI Express if it was X 4 or X1? I have the same board with a sound blaster ZX sound card in it, do you think you would make any difference using the X1 slot versus the X4 slot? Because my graphics card is too big and I don't have enough space to put it in the third slot so it has to be on the very last fourth slot. Also did you ever end up releasing a bios video about this board I'm new to MSI and that would have been handy, thanks.
Thanks for the video, looking at buying one of these based on the m.2 slots as it's going to be a NAS/main pc build and I'm going all SSD for the storage. Well, maybe 1 or 2 SMR 8TB+ drives for backups etc.
Hi there, since you removed the heatsinks on the vrms, any chance you can tell us the phases name or at least the amperage of them? For the PRO series, MSI specify 55A phases, here they don't. Thanks in advance.
@@mikesunboxing you think so? On the PRO they are 55A, on the tomahawk they are 90A phases, here, the fact that they don't proudly specify them on the product pages leaves me worried... wee all know companies like to skimp on "gaming" nomenclated products since they sell anyway... I hope I'm wrong
I have this motherboard and my 14700k with a frequency of 5.5 works fine on it, as well as RAM with a frequency of 6400 also works well without errors. I did not overclock the RAM above, since I do not see the point in this
Hello, where I live, there is a 30 dollar difference between the Z790 Gaming Plus wifi 7200 mhz and the Z790 Tomahawk wifi 7200 mhz. Which one do you think I should buy? Is the Tomahawk worth paying $30 more?
Hello Mike I’m building my pc and I don’t really not what I’m doing,I want it for gaming and productivity such as streaming, I want to use a intel i7 14700k and a msi rtx 4080 Super with a liquid cooler can I use this motherboard?
@@mikesunboxing I want to use it for software development and testing purpose mainly.Use several vm, wsl, docker, multiple ide. Mainly heavy multitasking and development purpose. So not focused on GPU. Thought I will add gpu rtx 3060 or arc 770 in future if need. What is your suggestions about gpu? And another thing, ddr5 6000mhz enough for this build?
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@@mikesunboxing I believe I found my problem. I’m doing my first PC build with this motherboard. Along side of i7-12700 and RTX 3070. I put everything together and tried to boot up the pc but I wasn’t getting power signal of any kind.
Currently, the Tomahawk is cheaper and has bad reviews on Amazon compared to the whole Z7xx line of MSI mobos. I think this is the way to go without buying the unnecessary $400 models.
i build a pc , can you tell me which motherboard to choose please,. i write down everything , Case: SQ Tower 01M RGB - black - glass window with mesh front Cpu : Intel Core i9-14900KF, 24x 3.20GHz Gpu :NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 Ti - 16GB - Gainward Panther OC - DLSS Ram: 32GB DDR5 RAM 6000 MHz Corsair Vengeance (2x 16GB - Dual Channel) Ssd: 1000 GB WD Black SN850X (Read: 7300MB/s | Write: 6300MB/s) Power supply : be quiet! Pure Power 12 M - 850W full modular - 80 PLUS Gold Cpu Cooler: Cooler Master Masterliquid 360L Core ARGB, black- 360mm - and the motherboards i have 2 of them ,, so which one is more better? 1/ MSI Pro Z790-P WIFI DDR5 . 2/MSI Z790 Gaming Plus WIFI DDR5
@@mikesunboxing I like to have the option of consuming my own physical media, whether that's BD or music CDs. Although I see cyberlink/intel are limiting the ability to watch ultra HD BD. Such a shame
@@mikesunboxingsorry I should have been more specific. The disk that came in the box for instructions about drivers and tools etc… would that work in a ps5/xbox series x to play the disk.
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@@mikesunboxing I figured out what I wanted to ask and it was turning on XMP and I’m still not sure if they do it or not. OR if I should. Thanks for responding and the help. Loving the content
@@mikesunboxing The first PCI slot doesn't work. The first Nvme M.2 slot does not work. There are audio issues. The RGB has been finnicky. Possibly Mystic Light and Icue software conflictions on this last issue.
I want to buy this but this motherboard power is 55A, other motherboards such as MSI PRO Z790-A (Wi-Fi 6E) DDR4 is 75A and MSI MAG B760 TOMAHAWK (Wi-Fi 6E) DDR5 is 60A. Would you please explain if the amp is important? I want to choose between MSI PRO Z790-A (Wi-Fi 6E) DDR4 or MSI MAG B760 TOMAHAWK (Wi-Fi 6E) DDR5 or MSI Z790 GAMING PLUS (Wi-Fi 6E) DDR5 ?
amps X phases = maximum potential wattage. Does your CPU of choice need that much wattage? Ideally in the perfect world you would buy a board with may more capacity than you need. I have ran benchmarks between this and the tomahawk and it is nearly indentical
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MSI is the benchmark for consumer mobos in my opinion, cant really go wrong with them and the BIOS GUI is some of the best out there. Thanks Mike and Kath.
i agree, expect the AM5 range started off rather hit and miss, but like i said in the stream, i will definitely be looking at that again soon with fresh eyes and updated BIOS to see where we are at the beginning of 2024
If I can, I will stay in the MSI UEFI bios screen forever and never boot into operating system....
Nice to see how every generation the "model name" spec improves. B550 gaming plus look entry level whereas this Z790 versions looks high spec. With all those m.2s no need for sata ssds. Assume not shared ports. What psu is needed for 2x8 cables? Thanks for reviewing & will look forward to updates Mike and Kath 🐈👍
yeah the price keeps rising with the specs though :-)
no shared PCIe lanes the Z790 chipset fills in the gaps where needed.
and PSU wise i would think 650w or more really for a balanced system, you don't really need the extra EPS CPU plug unless you are really gunning it
@@mikesunboxing Thanks Mike thats interesting both chipset wise and eps👍
Another great video Mike ! cheers.
Glad you enjoyed it
Hi Mike, right in time with this review as I wanted to purchase it myself for my 14700k build. I have one dilemma: I wanted to get 32 gb of corsair 7200 mhz ram but for stability reasons i am inclined to go for the 6000 mhz ones. What is your take on this? Would i be ok with the 7200 ones?
i am running 6400 lexar rgb ram at the moment and it is fine. 7200 should be fine also with intel, for AMD i would stay at 5600 or 6000
Hi, Mike. On the US Amazon, the MSI Z790 Gaming Plus WiFi DDR5 is $100 cheaper than the Tomahawk version. Looks like a good deal.
that is a big saving! thanks for the heads up on that
7200mhz is the staple and the best bang for your buck ram... you get huge improved 1% lows and higher over all frame rate. Personally bought this motherboard and tbh its everything you need. this motherboard in my opinion is the best bang for your buck z790 motherboard. Great purchase if you do decide to snag one!
Great review Mike.Nice looking board as someone who is a MSi nut.Would like to see a review of the Tomahawk version of this one as l intend to upgrade my editing pc in the new year 👏⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
that might be a good idea, and if you still want me to build your new pc, i am more than willing to do so, but if you want to enjoy the experience yourself i totally get it
@@mikesunboxing l like this Lian Li case and fans.So would you be willing to upgrade my mobo,cpu,NVME M.2 drive,and do fresh windows 10 install,and set the pc up for me on a live stream possibly.❤️
yeah sure no problem
@@mikesunboxing ok,thank you.l look forward to it.l need to constrain my spending till new year.l financed a first car for my 17yr old great nephew today;so my plans for my pc have had to be postponed
Very nice board indeed Mike. It is Rick approved. 😄 You have probably already built your system. Just wondering if you used high end thermal paste such as Thermal Grizzly? That i9-13900k is a hot beast when pushed. Thanks for sharing Mike and Lady Kath. Take care everyone and be safe. Cheers
cheers rick! currently i am using the MX6 with a slight undervolt and it idles around 30c and gets to mid seventies under all core loads, so i am pretty happy with that
@@mikesunboxing Nice Mike. That's not bad at all. I just picked up a tube of MX-6 and two tubes of TF4. Cheers
Grate review by the way
I9 14900kf and rtx 4080 super. Will it go together?
yes that is fine, and thanks for watching
Thanks sub from me :)
@@gatisrimss Awesome! Welcome to the Channel 🙂
Thank you very much i couldnt find anything really useful here on UA-cam regarding this board. The funny thing is its one of the only cheaper boards that has those 2 usb3 front panel connectors. I am not using 2 of my case ports since my current board is missing them 🤣
Glad to hear that!
hi mike, your review was very helpful, now I pretty much figured out what this motherboard can give me, and I think this is the most ideal for me now the problem and find all the other components.
according to you what can be a good build around 500 euros? obviously considering houses, fans, gpu, ram, ssd, etc...
in any case maximizing performance at the expense of appearance, is not a computer that will be seen easily.
P.S. I’ll watch some more of your videos to understand more about the components that I should get.
500 euros isn't a lot for a whole pc especially if you are aiming at z790 levels. maybe join in the discord chat to get some ideas
Hello Mike were you able to figure out the bottom PCI Express if it was X 4 or X1? I have the same board with a sound blaster ZX sound card in it, do you think you would make any difference using the X1 slot versus the X4 slot? Because my graphics card is too big and I don't have enough space to put it in the third slot so it has to be on the very last fourth slot.
Also did you ever end up releasing a bios video about this board I'm new to MSI and that would have been handy, thanks.
bottom slot seems to be x4 i have a avermedia 4k capture card in mine and it all works as it should
Thanks for the video, looking at buying one of these based on the m.2 slots as it's going to be a NAS/main pc build and I'm going all SSD for the storage.
Well, maybe 1 or 2 SMR 8TB+ drives for backups etc.
Good choice!
I really wished more boards had a CMOS reset button on the I/O shield, especially for the guys who love to tinker with BIOS settings.
yes that would be good. you can also wire your reset button on the case to the cmos reset pins to to the same thing
Hi there thanks for making this video? Can the RTX 4080 work with this Mobo, will it cause a sag/ bending?
the sag and bending is more a case thing than the motherboard. failing that get a cheap gpu support for under £10
@@mikesunboxing oh alright mate, noted with thanks 😊
Hi there, since you removed the heatsinks on the vrms, any chance you can tell us the phases name or at least the amperage of them? For the PRO series, MSI specify 55A phases, here they don't. Thanks in advance.
sorry i missed that out, i seem to recall that they were 80a
@@mikesunboxing you think so? On the PRO they are 55A, on the tomahawk they are 90A phases, here, the fact that they don't proudly specify them on the product pages leaves me worried... wee all know companies like to skimp on "gaming" nomenclated products since they sell anyway... I hope I'm wrong
How does the Amazon warehouse returns work? Did you RMA it with MSI or return to Amazon?
went back to amazon after i refused the msi return
Hi, would the peerless assasin 120se fit this motherboard?
yes it will
i have this motherboard in my build right now. does the motherboard have any RGB lighting?
it supports ARGB and rgb but has no leds actually built into the board itself
They put 3 full lenght pcie slots on the intel one but not on the amd ones. But still happy with my Pro 670-p
nice board mate
I have this motherboard and my 14700k with a frequency of 5.5 works fine on it, as well as RAM with a frequency of 6400 also works well without errors. I did not overclock the RAM above, since I do not see the point in this
I have this plus a 4090 and i9 14900k. I’m new to gaming so you know what’s a good setting for gaming?
Hello, where I live, there is a 30 dollar difference between the Z790 Gaming Plus wifi 7200 mhz and the Z790 Tomahawk wifi 7200 mhz. Which one do you think I should buy? Is the Tomahawk worth paying $30 more?
for me yes i hate the gigabyte software for controlling the rgb and fans
@@mikesunboxing So which one would be more logical between MSI Z790 Tomahawk WiFi and MSI Pro Z790-A Max? The prices of these two are the same
@@erginserifsimsek6764 The Tomahawk is the better board
Hello i bought a 7900xtx and a i9 14900k do think it will go together with the build 😅
yes that sounds great
Hi mike, is it possible/compatible to use ddr4 ram sticks on this board?
There is a ddr4 version of the board I think
@mikesunboxing cheers Mike....
Hello Mike I’m building my pc and I don’t really not what I’m doing,I want it for gaming and productivity such as streaming, I want to use a intel i7 14700k and a msi rtx 4080 Super with a liquid cooler can I use this motherboard?
yes you can and it will be a good choice, i am using a 13900K and 4070 super so not that different really
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Is it good to pair with Msi z790 gaming plus and 13600k? Psu 750watt. Cpu cooler deepcool ak620 zero dark..any suggestion please...😊
sounds okay to me, what GPU though?
@@mikesunboxing I want to use it for software development and testing purpose mainly.Use several vm, wsl, docker, multiple ide. Mainly heavy multitasking and development purpose. So not focused on GPU. Thought I will add gpu rtx 3060 or arc 770 in future if need. What is your suggestions about gpu? And another thing, ddr5 6000mhz enough for this build?
Noob question: is there any other psu cables needed to turn the pc? Like a CPU 8 pin male to CPU 8 pin (4+4) cable?
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@@mikesunboxing I believe I found my problem. I’m doing my first PC build with this motherboard. Along side of i7-12700 and RTX 3070. I put everything together and tried to boot up the pc but I wasn’t getting power signal of any kind.
@@LaoBoiClique Glad you got it sorted out 🙂
Currently, the Tomahawk is cheaper and has bad reviews on Amazon compared to the whole Z7xx line of MSI mobos. I think this is the way to go without buying the unnecessary $400 models.
i build a pc , can you tell me which motherboard to choose please,. i write down everything ,
Case: SQ Tower 01M RGB - black - glass window with mesh front
Cpu : Intel Core i9-14900KF, 24x 3.20GHz
Gpu :NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 Ti - 16GB - Gainward Panther OC - DLSS
Ram: 32GB DDR5 RAM 6000 MHz Corsair Vengeance (2x 16GB - Dual Channel)
Ssd: 1000 GB WD Black SN850X (Read: 7300MB/s | Write: 6300MB/s)
Power supply : be quiet! Pure Power 12 M - 850W full modular - 80 PLUS Gold
Cpu Cooler: Cooler Master Masterliquid 360L Core ARGB, black- 360mm
- and the motherboards i have 2 of them ,, so which one is more better?
1/ MSI Pro Z790-P WIFI DDR5
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2/MSI Z790 Gaming Plus WIFI DDR5
i would go with the gaming plus as long as it wasn't much more expensive
Even with a MSI Z590 Pro Wifi that i got. then you can't go wrong with a Z790 from MSI 👍
Part of the reason I build my own PCs is so that I can have something with a Blu-Ray drive and card reader
i bought a few 3d blurays back in the day, but not used an optical disc in a long time
@@mikesunboxing I like to have the option of consuming my own physical media, whether that's BD or music CDs. Although I see cyberlink/intel are limiting the ability to watch ultra HD BD. Such a shame
Never had any luck with MSI.. Rather pick a Z790 Pro from Asrock.
stick with what you know.
What about putting that disk into a ps5/xbox series x would that not work?
i have no idea what you mean sorry
@@mikesunboxingsorry I should have been more specific. The disk that came in the box for instructions about drivers and tools etc… would that work in a ps5/xbox series x to play the disk.
I got this one few months ago. It cause 17400K get hot instantly. I don't know why. I alret change lite load to the lowest amd still can't help.
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Do gaming plus like gaming pro?
yes it is good also
Does anyone recommend what I should use for mhz for gaming with a 4090 and I have an i9 1400k. New to pc gaming and don’t have a clue lol
i don't really understand what you are asking here sorry, you don't need to set the mhz on the GPU it does that itself
@@mikesunboxing I figured out what I wanted to ask and it was turning on XMP and I’m still not sure if they do it or not. OR if I should. Thanks for responding and the help. Loving the content
Mike throwing another tomahawk down the road …
I've had nothing but problems from this mobo so far. 😒😒
sorry to hear that, for me it has been flawless, what are the problems you are having?
@@mikesunboxing The first PCI slot doesn't work. The first Nvme M.2 slot does not work. There are audio issues. The RGB has been finnicky. Possibly Mystic Light and Icue software conflictions on this last issue.
Homeless and jobless, what to do oh I know sleep 🛌 with the penguins 🐧 they know how to throw a free party 🎊
sheesh sorry to hear that
@@mikesunboxingthat’s life Mike and the brutal world we live in
@@mikesunboxingit can and will happen to anyone
I want to buy this but this motherboard power is 55A, other motherboards such as MSI PRO Z790-A (Wi-Fi 6E) DDR4 is 75A and MSI MAG B760 TOMAHAWK (Wi-Fi 6E) DDR5 is 60A. Would you please explain if the amp is important? I want to choose between MSI PRO Z790-A (Wi-Fi 6E) DDR4 or MSI MAG B760 TOMAHAWK (Wi-Fi 6E) DDR5 or MSI Z790 GAMING PLUS (Wi-Fi 6E) DDR5 ?
amps X phases = maximum potential wattage. Does your CPU of choice need that much wattage? Ideally in the perfect world you would buy a board with may more capacity than you need.
I have ran benchmarks between this and the tomahawk and it is nearly indentical
@@mikesunboxing I am going to buy i5 13500 so what do you suggest ? DDR 5 Ram price just increased so I am thinking about choosing a DDR4 board.
Isn't the b650 tomahawk cheaper again and also am5
Z790 is intel