Australia is notoriously home to a myriad of deadly animals. Prof Steve exposes just how much more likely are you to be killed by an animal in Australia than in the USA, or not?!
In Canada, the most deadly wild animal is the moose, particularly on the east coast, where winter sees a lot of fog and snow. Salt is used to improve road conditions, the animals are drawn to the roads for the salt, and drivers don't see them in time, because of the fog. Moose are tall and heavy, so when you run into one, you knock the legs out from under it, and 500 kgs of surprised ungulate crashes through the windshield, killing the front occupants. Arguably automobile travel is the hazard here, but cars aren't wild animals, so not eligible.
American currently living in Australia here. When I told people I was moving to Australia, people told me that they'd be so afraid to come to Australia because of the box jellyfish, brown snakes and funnel web spiders. But when I got here, Australians told me that they'd be so afraid to go to the US because of the bears, wolves and cougars.
Funny that! The reality is you're more likely to get killed by an animal wild or domestic in the US. And you way more likely to get killed by a human in the US that everything else combined!
When I visited Australia back in the 1990s they handed out some flyers about the things that killed the most people. I don’t remember exact numbers but all the dead’s by spiders, sharks, snakes, crokodiles all together came not even close to the number of people who died in traffic accidents.
Doesn't surprise me that the death rate by wild animals in the USA is higher than in Australia, considering that Americans think petting wild bison is a good idea. Seriously, my fellow Americans thinking bison are friendly cows is a meme at this point. Looking forward to the Short-Faced Bear episode!
@@RealPaleontology The Big Cat Public Safety Act which was signed into law has put more restrictions on owning big cats. But yeah, Americans are nuts when it comes to owning exotic animals.
The problem with Australia is mostly just the sheer exotic nature of some of the lethal animals. Very few people die to a box jellyfish but boy does it suck to be the person who draws that lottery number and gets drowned by paralysis before medevac can get to you. Although I've always huffed at people harping about how dangerous Australia megafauna is - outside of the Saltie, everything in the US is larger. And no sane human dies to Crocodiles or Alligators - they're one of those kinds of animals you have to be looking for trouble to get killed by one.
@@wyattw9727 thanks mate. But exotic is in the eye of the beholder. Getting killed by a bear is pretty exotic to an Australian. And you're almost as likely to get killed buy in alligator in the u.s. As you are by a crocodile in Australia. That's the problem with American wildlife to an Australian. You're also more likely to get killed by a spider in the USA than in Australia. But I think far and away the scariest thing for an Australian is that you are way more likely to get shot in the USA than in any other developed country.
Thank you -- very pedagogical analysis. I think that a part in low fatalities from Australian crocs probably is related to the low overlap of teritorries between them and humans. Isn't it? They need more opportunities! ':-)
@@andrejspi definitely, nobody lives where crocodiles do. If their range extended South at least to Brisbane I'm sure they could get their numbers way up.
I think Australians who live in saltwater crocodile range have necessarily developed the common sense to not go in the water there anymore, is the reason
The thing with mosquitoes is that it's not actually the mosquitoes that kills you. It's the microbes they inject into you. So if I die from malaria, for example, would you count that to the mosquitoe or to the particular malaria parasite involved (like Plasmodium vivax)? Also, should microbes have been included on the list? As an aside, I live in the northern suburbs of Melbourne in the middle of an area that is experiencing an outbreak of buruli ulcers, which are spread by mosquitoes. Two of our neighbours have had them. One got early treatment and was ok, the other didn't and ended up in extreme pain and had big chunks of her leg removed (she made the TV news). I don't know if anyone has died from this ulcer though.
I had a feeling we were leading up to humans. I enjoyed the video a lot, and it provides a lot of important context, though I do think a lot of my fellow Americans referencing all the deadly animals in Australia are doing so a bit tongue in cheek. I know I've made similar jokes, but would still love to visit Australia. Unfortunately, violence in the USA has been a serious problem for many years, really since our inception. What is interesting, and you mention it, is that violent crime has generally been on a downward trend in the USA despite certain politicians and business interests painting a much scarier picture. For those considering a visit to the USA, I hope you decide to come, but maybe take the same precautions you'd take in a more developing country than if you were visiting Europe, or Canada. I do continue to believe that on personal and individual levels, most of us are kind and welcoming people.
Yes, I totally agree that many Americans do realise that this has been overblown. But I don't think many realise by just how much this has been hyped. To be honest, I didn't realise myself until I did the numbers on this!
@@cameronspence4977 Not to get too political, especially since I don't have any data, but we had slavery and ethnic cleansing of native populations from our earliest days, and I would consider those things to be violence, even if state-sanctioned, or also occurring in other parts of the world.
@danhester4408 slavery isnt really violence. It includes violence yeah, but we are talking about like shootings, gang conflict, political violence, etc like you know violence in the most basic, literal term. I wouldnt really count slavery or ethnic cleansing, youre talking about a whole other conversation if you wanna get into more of that in depth stuff.
Very entertaining and enjoyable with the added bonus of having confidence in your science and stats. Thank you! Would be interesting to see an Indian / African / South American version - I suspect big cats and snakes might figure more prominently in that. I think humans dying in motor collisions (e.g. roos and deer) should be counted as human caused rather than animal caused - I reckon the species who die in those collisions might see it that way!
@coweatsman Americans love Australian footy they have had a compition since 1995 , so Over 1/4 of a century , the world's Oldest codified game is being noticed thanks to the net , it is a great sport , the best sport , Do you play for the Cows , which league is that , don't say Bart is your team mate , I know travelling is a problem like here . GO BLUES RARARA
In Ancient Time during the Iron Age like Ancient Egypt, Ancient Greece, Roman Times, Ancient Iron Age Korea, Ancient Japan, Ancient China, Mongolia and Central Asia, Thousands of Warriors, Gladiators and Iron Age Hunters on Horseback are been attack by Lions, Aurochs, Various Types of Continental Tigers (Populations of Panthera tigris tigris), Bears, Wolves, and even Elephants Every Thousand Years.
About 3 years ago I broke my back doing a training ride on a horse. I believe there was probably a pain element involved for the horse, plus the owner would do things he was specifically told not to do when he would ride the horse. But if the owner was riding instead of me he probably would have been far more injured or killed. Personally I believe that guy had no business owning that horse in the first place. Whenever I hear about people buying horses with either no or minimal experience I cringe. They are huge extremely reactive prey animals. People can do all the research they want, but with horses it cannot replace experience. Even then mistakes and accidents happen. I’d also guess that more deaths/ injuries happen when handling them on the ground vs riding.
Really sorry to hear that. And yep, I think most people don't realise how potentially dangerous horses are. My partner has a horse, and I have to say I do worry some.
@ if you’re smart about it and keep boundaries with them I don’t think there’s a huge amount of danger. You’re still probably gonna get a bruise every once in a while, and probably get your foot stepped on every so often. But I really think the majority of major injuries and deaths happen to the people who probably have no business handling a horse in the first place or ignore basic safety precautions. Things definitely do still happen, for me, I trusted the wrong person. I got extremely lucky because I was only in a back brace for 10 weeks and didn’t need surgery. I really have no lasting effects. The only thing is I don’t like long car rides or plane rides just because of where the seat presses into my back. The only death I know of that has happened in my horse community happened last year. I didn’t know her. But everyone in the community felt the impact and left. It was just a horrible accident. But I’ve also been riding since I was a little kid and I’ve been with my current trainer since I was 11, I’m now 28, and like I said, this is the only horse related death I know of locally. Anyway, I love your videos. I just found them today and I find them very interesting. You do a great job of putting all the information together and explaining it.
Hey, I'm really glad you like my videos! Gotta say I do put quite a bit of effort into them! And it's very satisfying to hear that people appreciated it. I remember when I was a kid, a young girl been killed by a horse in our pretty small town. It was absolutely awful.
I knew the stat about horses, and as I spent many years handling them I am not surprised. I think many horse handlers become complacent or take them for granted, but they are freaky and unpredictable at times and you must stay alert and aware. I had some near misses which still scare me. I have seen some of those videos and heard comments by people overseas and I reckon it is because too many programs about Australia focus overmuch on venomous and dangerous wildlife. Ask these people if they would visit India or South-East Asia and they usually say "yes", ignorant of the fact that over 40,000 people die annually in those areas from snakebite alone.
Absolutely! And then there's Africa! Thing is to though, we really do have a lot of 'potentially' deadly animals, it's just that most of them don't actually kill anybody. Having a pretty bloodied good healthcare system helps too....
Having lived in the USA, as an Australian, I think that the difference in the death rates might be related to education. We do a great job of teaching kids not to play with deadly things. I'm not so sure about Americans.
@@RealPaleontology that is true. I was based in San Diego, and I did have an encounter with a mountain lion in my back yard though. It put the wind right up me, evoking deep instincts I never knew I had. I was amazed though that most Americans I met didn't recognise that there were lacrodectus spiders in their gardens - they were blythly unaware that their toddlers were sharing their sandpits with medically significant spiders.
@@RealPaleontology yes, beautiful, but very scary. As soon as I saw it (about 2.5 m from me, I'd just stepped out the back door) I froze. I didn't _choose_ to freeze. I think it was something from way back on the African Savanna. I couldn't move if I wanted to (I wanted to very much - the back door was 1m away), and simultaneously I was intensely adrenalised - if I had to I think I could of done a standing long jump of nearly 3m! Crocodiles and snakes, whilst sometimes intimidating, don't do the same thing to me at all. I'm very educated, and have a lot of wildlife experience, and was raised in the bush so I was taught hunting culture, yet all of that went out the window as this very very deep instinctual "freeze" took control of me. I think that we're just apes that can wear clothes when you come down to it, and there's a lot of animal instinct behind "human nature".
In regards to your skepticism regarding the additional lethality of American horses, does Oz have a rodeo culture like we do? If y'all don't I think that could pretty well explain it.
One thing I find funny in the US is how people commonly perceive bears to be dangerous. While a Grizzly certainly can be a threat, unless you're like that one bear whisperer idiot who went camping right by Grizzilies and was found torn to shreds along with his girlfriend - they'll leave you well enough alone if you leave them alone, and they're pretty remote in their habitats too from human encroachment. Black Bears are total pushovers and people acting like they're dangerous need a reality check - an unleashed dog in your neighborhood is far more dangerous. Plus accounting for actual problems in NA, you'd best avoid Racoons simply because of all wildlife, they carry rabies at a pretty high rate, although again - you need to go looking for trouble to get bit. The same if I were in Australia, save maybe the ocean since you can accidentally stumble into jellyfish from just bad luck - but it's the creepy crawlies you need to watch out for. Lots of nasty contagions are carried by ticks, mosquitos, bed bugs, fleas, etc. And of course, no surprise that the most deadly *megafauna* is hooved and often bovine. Predators will only attack you out of desperation usually, especially going as far as to predate. Meanwhile an herbivore will hip check you out of moderate irritation, not even intending to kill, but it's one tonne of muscle so your pelvis and ribcage gave their best humpty dumpty fall impression and shattered into many many pieces. Plus, the North American predators that attack humans sometimes just aren't that common. Mountain Lions are endangered but also relatively small. Unless a human is ambushed totally unawares, the news is filled with stories of hikers or bikers giving as much as they got, or even better, and taking out the Mountain Lions while only sustaining moderate injuries. Ballpoint pen > Cougar. Overall though my fellow Americans need to wail about wildlife being some scary danger less, and perhaps be more mindful around common cattle or unknown domestic dogs.
ive heard the number of 1000 croc fatalities per annum before and read somewhere that it is rather inflated but then again many types of animal attacks aren't too well documented so we have to infer i guess. either way i once spent time researching deadly animals and couldn't really find too much on crocs :( but after some highly uneducated pondering i came to the conclusion that saltwater crocodiles could be earths deadliest species in terms of killing by predation🐊. would be curious if anyone knows more on this. anyways, my grandma was almost killed by her horse so i agree, please be careful around them..
Yes that is an estimate for the worldwide figure. And would be hard to fully verify. I doubt will never know for sure. But with respect to Australia it's very well supported. I grew up with horses myself. My partner has one now. I love horses but they're more dangerous than motorbikes and I've had both.
Man , I'm an Aussie an Australia is no drama , no predators apart from Crocs , horses kill more people here , we have the most facinating Elapids , on earth , but sharks are in Sth Africa , I've held blue rings , platypus will irritate , it superfluous exercise
It's my professional opinion that you'd be unwise to handle blue ringed octopus or platypus. In the latter case I'm also pretty sure that it's illegal. Just saying
@RealPaleontology Yeah , Port Phillip Bay has the HMAS Cerberus, as a reef , we'd dive for abolone , and put em in a bag , a few times I've empied the bag a in the bag a Blue Ring, but they are aposematic and when mis handled they get big faint purple Rings and then an Irredesant Blue, then , no touch , we return them to the reef , and never handled a Platypus , but Echidna taken a few off rds , as you know both males have spurs , And monotremes also , cheers Ric
Yeah, I'd be way more worried about sharks that octopus there. I've moved a few echidna off the road myself. Geez those spiked little buggers are difficult to budge once they get dug in. Incredibly strong. They do have spurs, but they are not venomous like the male platypus.
@RealPaleontology Yes , and they always wee on me , but they so slow , it freaks me out , so I know how to pick them up , but nervous not so small for a small mammals , they are beautiful but dig into the ground when put down so now I make sure it is soft ground off the road . Cheers , Ric
It should also be pointed out that many deaths caused by wildlife in Australia are actually tourists so i dont even think its fair or necessary to correct for population.
I found this a very interesting listen. Counting car related deaths, involving wild animals to me is wrong. Could be driver error, vehicle malfunction due to poor mantanance, any number of things. Say I was driving at 240 km per hour, hit a kangaroo and died. Was it a roo death or a speed death? Overall very interesting. Thank you for these statistics. Just hope I am never one.
Sadly Cape Town has become a bit of a rape & murder etc capital, probably worse than most US or Aus cities... Our 'big five' & other so-called dangerous South African game largely live in well managed parks where nasty encounters are exceptionally uncommon... I do wish to share that, in the '90s, I spent a lot of time hiking & fishing in a still very wild part of the Eastern Cape. We became good friends with a local family that lived in their huts closest to my favorite destination. We'd greet them on the way in & drop off leftover foods on the way out. (They were actually quite proficient small scale farmers but loved things like sugar, teabags & soup packets etc)... It was rare that the hi & what's new greeting on the way in didn't include a story of another local 'umfaan' (a young boy, probably herding cattle or just running around) recently being nabbed by a black mamba & generally dying from the bite... I only ever had a 'run in' (a speedy back-track is more descriptive) with a big one once... Other snakes may technically be more venomous but a black mamba is deadly, they get huge & they're fast and aggressive... I have no clue of any black mamba fatalities stats & doubt those umfaans would even have featured on them as the nearest hospital & police station were 100+ km away on a foot path that became a dirt track & eventually a shoddy dirt road.
Yes I know that South Africa is unfortunately a rather dangerous place. A friend of mine's partner was murdered in Johannesburg. I'm not sure about South Africa in particular but certainly overall there are many animal related deaths. Hippos crocodiles Buffalo and lions all take a toll. How to stop me from visiting though. I've visited several times. A safari in Botswana a few years ago was a particular highlight for me.
@@RealPaleontology Sorry to hear about your friend's partner, I try to avoid Johannesburg & not just because of the crime rate... Despite all our problems I'm still very fond of South & Southern Africa in general though. Very kind of you to reply to the comments, respect...
If you factor in the climate, human and geological factors the US would be far more dangerous than Australia. Also you can outrun a spider and a snake but not a Bear. The west coast of the US is seismically active, Australia is not. As for climate. Australia’s deadliest threats are heat related which includes bushfires. They also get bad flooding and Tropical Storms As for the US take your pick of what dangerous climate you want depending on where you live, Tornadoes, Hurricanes, Flooding as well as the same heat related threats that OZ has including obviously wild fires. On top of that you have the added threat of extreme cold which doesn’t exist in Australia including Blizzards and Ice Storms as well as very low temperatures.
@RealPaleontology 4 were car related accidents. But 2 were people w deadly intent. I also forgot a eagle tried to eat me once as a toddler so that turns it to 7. Im ok though. Ive moved around alot. But cars are everywhere lol
This was a recommendation and really didn’t surprise me. As an Aussie I never considered this country as being that dangerous when it comes to animal attacks when you look at even in the US after all the fail videos I’ve seen the biggest thing that will get you killed quickly no matter where you go is when interacting with animals is a person’s stupidity, ignorance and worrying to much about getting that perfect shot instead of their surroundings.
Where I live in this American town, has like 5 locations or more I can think of with barking guard dogs, some of them were probably not socialized right, and I was even chased by one.
True that. It was 32-year-old Christine Sturges from near Wollongong. But that does not make my claim that no one's been killed by a spider here since 1981 and the introduction of an antivenom incorrect. Incidentally, there is also a claim out there that a young man was killed by a redback spider in 2016, but this appears to to remain unverified.
@@RealPaleontology your intro about getting off the plane and dying was great. I always tell overseas people that we have our fair share of elderly people, (including me), how does anyone suppose they got to be, "elderly" If we're all gonna die before we turn three?😹🦘
In Canada, the most deadly wild animal is the moose, particularly on the east coast, where winter sees a lot of fog and snow. Salt is used to improve road conditions, the animals are drawn to the roads for the salt, and drivers don't see them in time, because of the fog. Moose are tall and heavy, so when you run into one, you knock the legs out from under it, and 500 kgs of surprised ungulate crashes through the windshield, killing the front occupants. Arguably automobile travel is the hazard here, but cars aren't wild animals, so not eligible.
That's a big animal alright. But the moose is still eligible as a killer of humans, even if it's not actually trying to.
American currently living in Australia here.
When I told people I was moving to Australia, people told me that they'd be so afraid to come to Australia because of the box jellyfish, brown snakes and funnel web spiders.
But when I got here, Australians told me that they'd be so afraid to go to the US because of the bears, wolves and cougars.
Funny that! The reality is you're more likely to get killed by an animal wild or domestic in the US. And you way more likely to get killed by a human in the US that everything else combined!
You failed to mention Yowies, Marshwobblers, and Drop Bears!💪
I've already mentioned drop bears. See previous episode on the marsupial lion.
@ sorry, first video of yours I’ve watched, loved it👍
Awesome. Just out of interest, what would be your next favourite?
Only other I have watched was the hyena bite force one, this was great too..
Bunyips!
When I visited Australia back in the 1990s they handed out some flyers about the things that killed the most people. I don’t remember exact numbers but all the dead’s by spiders, sharks, snakes, crokodiles all together came not even close to the number of people who died in traffic accidents.
That's really interesting! Thanks for that.
Doesn't surprise me that the death rate by wild animals in the USA is higher than in Australia, considering that Americans think petting wild bison is a good idea. Seriously, my fellow Americans thinking bison are friendly cows is a meme at this point. Looking forward to the Short-Faced Bear episode!
As I understand it in some states you can have pretty much anything as a pet including big cats?
@@RealPaleontology The Big Cat Public Safety Act which was signed into law has put more restrictions on owning big cats. But yeah, Americans are nuts when it comes to owning exotic animals.
@@gabrielsmedleysanimaltime5826 interesting, thanks for the heads up.
@@RealPaleontology You're welcome
@@gabrielsmedleysanimaltime5826 yeehaw 🤠
No surprises besides the domesticated numbers. Australia is so sensationalized by media its insane
Exactly!
The problem with Australia is mostly just the sheer exotic nature of some of the lethal animals. Very few people die to a box jellyfish but boy does it suck to be the person who draws that lottery number and gets drowned by paralysis before medevac can get to you. Although I've always huffed at people harping about how dangerous Australia megafauna is - outside of the Saltie, everything in the US is larger. And no sane human dies to Crocodiles or Alligators - they're one of those kinds of animals you have to be looking for trouble to get killed by one.
@@wyattw9727 thanks mate. But exotic is in the eye of the beholder. Getting killed by a bear is pretty exotic to an Australian. And you're almost as likely to get killed buy in
alligator in the u.s. As you are by a crocodile in Australia. That's the problem with American wildlife to an Australian. You're also more likely to get killed by a spider in the USA than in Australia. But I think far and away the scariest thing for an Australian is that you are way more likely to get shot in the USA than in any other developed country.
@@gufishanemometer6450 exactly
Thank you -- very pedagogical analysis. I think that a part in low fatalities from Australian crocs probably is related to the low overlap of teritorries between them and humans. Isn't it? They need more opportunities! ':-)
@@andrejspi definitely, nobody lives where crocodiles do. If their range extended South at least to Brisbane I'm sure they could get their numbers way up.
I think Australians who live in saltwater crocodile range have necessarily developed the common sense to not go in the water there anymore, is the reason
MOSQUITOES would give that number a fright
Not in Australia
The thing with mosquitoes is that it's not actually the mosquitoes that kills you. It's the microbes they inject into you. So if I die from malaria, for example, would you count that to the mosquitoe or to the particular malaria parasite involved (like Plasmodium vivax)?
Also, should microbes have been included on the list?
As an aside, I live in the northern suburbs of Melbourne in the middle of an area that is experiencing an outbreak of buruli ulcers, which are spread by mosquitoes. Two of our neighbours have had them. One got early treatment and was ok, the other didn't and ended up in extreme pain and had big chunks of her leg removed (she made the TV news). I don't know if anyone has died from this ulcer though.
@BobHutton yeah , like Ross River Fever , they say you have no energy , and many fully debilitating illness , so true . Ric
if you get attacked by a bear make sure you've got you bare essentials with you.
Wish I'd thought of that one
Well remember the 2nd amendment, The Right to Arm Bears . Yeah . R
A badge , and ask for a gun licence , barely an essential , but hey
This is become unbearable
@@RealPaleontology HAHAHA. TOUCHÈ
No surprise concerning Homo sapiens. A very interesting summary
Thank you
I had a feeling we were leading up to humans. I enjoyed the video a lot, and it provides a lot of important context, though I do think a lot of my fellow Americans referencing all the deadly animals in Australia are doing so a bit tongue in cheek. I know I've made similar jokes, but would still love to visit Australia. Unfortunately, violence in the USA has been a serious problem for many years, really since our inception. What is interesting, and you mention it, is that violent crime has generally been on a downward trend in the USA despite certain politicians and business interests painting a much scarier picture. For those considering a visit to the USA, I hope you decide to come, but maybe take the same precautions you'd take in a more developing country than if you were visiting Europe, or Canada. I do continue to believe that on personal and individual levels, most of us are kind and welcoming people.
Yes, I totally agree that many Americans do realise that this has been overblown. But I don't think many realise by just how much this has been hyped. To be honest, I didn't realise myself until I did the numbers on this!
Its very overhyped but yes. Really its been since the 1980s with flare ups every now and then, but I wouldnt say since the beginning of the country.
@@cameronspence4977 Not to get too political, especially since I don't have any data, but we had slavery and ethnic cleansing of native populations from our earliest days, and I would consider those things to be violence, even if state-sanctioned, or also occurring in other parts of the world.
@danhester4408 slavery isnt really violence. It includes violence yeah, but we are talking about like shootings, gang conflict, political violence, etc like you know violence in the most basic, literal term. I wouldnt really count slavery or ethnic cleansing, youre talking about a whole other conversation if you wanna get into more of that in depth stuff.
@@cameronspence4977 yeah that is definitely a whole different conversation
Really enjoyed your good humor in your discussion!😂
Hey thanks. I really enjoyed making that episode
Very entertaining and enjoyable with the added bonus of having confidence in your science and stats. Thank you! Would be interesting to see an Indian / African / South American version - I suspect big cats and snakes might figure more prominently in that.
I think humans dying in motor collisions (e.g. roos and deer) should be counted as human caused rather than animal caused - I reckon the species who die in those collisions might see it that way!
Definitely see the point re collisions but I'm just calling it as the relevant authorities do
A football team named after cows. There is the South Park Cows.
@@coweatsman fantastic wish I'd known that before.
I think he was say the Adelaide Crows footy team ,
@coweatsman Americans love Australian footy they have had a compition since 1995 , so Over 1/4 of a century , the world's Oldest codified game is being noticed thanks to the net , it is a great sport , the best sport , Do you play for the Cows , which league is that , don't say Bart is your team mate , I know travelling is a problem like here . GO BLUES RARARA
Australian Cows were Introduce by the Americans and the Europeans with both European English Taurines and the Zebuines of the Indian Subcontinent.
True that
In Ancient Time during the Iron Age like Ancient Egypt, Ancient Greece, Roman Times, Ancient Iron Age Korea, Ancient Japan, Ancient China, Mongolia and Central Asia, Thousands of Warriors, Gladiators and Iron Age Hunters on Horseback are been attack by Lions, Aurochs, Various Types of Continental Tigers (Populations of Panthera tigris tigris), Bears, Wolves, and even Elephants Every Thousand Years.
Sure
About 3 years ago I broke my back doing a training ride on a horse. I believe there was probably a pain element involved for the horse, plus the owner would do things he was specifically told not to do when he would ride the horse.
But if the owner was riding instead of me he probably would have been far more injured or killed.
Personally I believe that guy had no business owning that horse in the first place.
Whenever I hear about people buying horses with either no or minimal experience I cringe.
They are huge extremely reactive prey animals. People can do all the research they want, but with horses it cannot replace experience. Even then mistakes and accidents happen.
I’d also guess that more deaths/ injuries happen when handling them on the ground vs riding.
Really sorry to hear that. And yep, I think most people don't realise how potentially dangerous horses are. My partner has a horse, and I have to say I do worry some.
@ if you’re smart about it and keep boundaries with them I don’t think there’s a huge amount of danger. You’re still probably gonna get a bruise every once in a while, and probably get your foot stepped on every so often. But I really think the majority of major injuries and deaths happen to the people who probably have no business handling a horse in the first place or ignore basic safety precautions.
Things definitely do still happen, for me, I trusted the wrong person. I got extremely lucky because I was only in a back brace for 10 weeks and didn’t need surgery. I really have no lasting effects. The only thing is I don’t like long car rides or plane rides just because of where the seat presses into my back.
The only death I know of that has happened in my horse community happened last year. I didn’t know her. But everyone in the community felt the impact and left. It was just a horrible accident.
But I’ve also been riding since I was a little kid and I’ve been with my current trainer since I was 11, I’m now 28, and like I said, this is the only horse related death I know of locally.
Anyway, I love your videos. I just found them today and I find them very interesting. You do a great job of putting all the information together and explaining it.
Hey, I'm really glad you like my videos! Gotta say I do put quite a bit of effort into them! And it's very satisfying to hear that people appreciated it. I remember when I was a kid, a young girl been killed by a horse in our pretty small town. It was absolutely awful.
I knew the stat about horses, and as I spent many years handling them I am not surprised. I think many horse handlers become complacent or take them for granted, but they are freaky and unpredictable at times and you must stay alert and aware. I had some near misses which still scare me. I have seen some of those videos and heard comments by people overseas and I reckon it is because too many programs about Australia focus overmuch on venomous and dangerous wildlife. Ask these people if they would visit India or South-East Asia and they usually say "yes", ignorant of the fact that over 40,000 people die annually in those areas from snakebite alone.
Absolutely! And then there's Africa! Thing is to though, we really do have a lot of 'potentially' deadly animals, it's just that most of them don't actually kill anybody. Having a pretty bloodied good healthcare system helps too....
Having lived in the USA, as an Australian, I think that the difference in the death rates might be related to education. We do a great job of teaching kids not to play with deadly things. I'm not so sure about Americans.
Another simple fact is that many of the most dangerous animals live in the tropical North where few people live
Americans play with guns.
@@RealPaleontology that is true. I was based in San Diego, and I did have an encounter with a mountain lion in my back yard though. It put the wind right up me, evoking deep instincts I never knew I had.
I was amazed though that most Americans I met didn't recognise that there were lacrodectus spiders in their gardens - they were blythly unaware that their toddlers were sharing their sandpits with medically significant spiders.
@@johnfoster6412 Wow! I'm jealous! what a beautiful animal!
@@RealPaleontology yes, beautiful, but very scary. As soon as I saw it (about 2.5 m from me, I'd just stepped out the back door) I froze. I didn't _choose_ to freeze. I think it was something from way back on the African Savanna. I couldn't move if I wanted to (I wanted to very much - the back door was 1m away), and simultaneously I was intensely adrenalised - if I had to I think I could of done a standing long jump of nearly 3m!
Crocodiles and snakes, whilst sometimes intimidating, don't do the same thing to me at all. I'm very educated, and have a lot of wildlife experience, and was raised in the bush so I was taught hunting culture, yet all of that went out the window as this very very deep instinctual "freeze" took control of me.
I think that we're just apes that can wear clothes when you come down to it, and there's a lot of animal instinct behind "human nature".
In regards to your skepticism regarding the additional lethality of American horses, does Oz have a rodeo culture like we do? If y'all don't I think that could pretty well explain it.
We definitely do have a Rodeo culture I've actually been to a couple. Although I couldn't say whether we have more or less?
Good to see another video from this legend
One of these days I'll have to buy u a beer!
Speaking as a Yank, I am an unapologetic Australia-phile, and I would love to visit someday (hopefully soon)!
It's a great country. And you're safer here!
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Mate you forgot about our drop bears here!! They are a very deadly animal, that’s why we are always looking up!!
I suggest you watch my episode on the marsupial lion.
I've already covered drop bears in the previous episode on the marsupial lion. Check it out!
My next door neighbor was killed by a cow while trying to put an ear tag a calf's ear and the momma crushed him
Oh my god.
I think that bears in USA have a preference for eating Australians over USA folk. The bears like the Vegemite flavour.
Maybe.
I know our Crocs have a preference for American and German tourists.
Here's a footy team, South Park Cows, check em out!
Will do.
Dr Struan Sutherland, of which Atrax Sutherlandi is named the anti venine king . Ric
Thanks
@RealPaleontology Confusing too because A . Sutherlandi , is found as far South as Sutherland , so ppl think I'm taking the piss , but no , cheers
One thing I find funny in the US is how people commonly perceive bears to be dangerous. While a Grizzly certainly can be a threat, unless you're like that one bear whisperer idiot who went camping right by Grizzilies and was found torn to shreds along with his girlfriend - they'll leave you well enough alone if you leave them alone, and they're pretty remote in their habitats too from human encroachment. Black Bears are total pushovers and people acting like they're dangerous need a reality check - an unleashed dog in your neighborhood is far more dangerous.
Plus accounting for actual problems in NA, you'd best avoid Racoons simply because of all wildlife, they carry rabies at a pretty high rate, although again - you need to go looking for trouble to get bit. The same if I were in Australia, save maybe the ocean since you can accidentally stumble into jellyfish from just bad luck - but it's the creepy crawlies you need to watch out for. Lots of nasty contagions are carried by ticks, mosquitos, bed bugs, fleas, etc.
And of course, no surprise that the most deadly *megafauna* is hooved and often bovine. Predators will only attack you out of desperation usually, especially going as far as to predate. Meanwhile an herbivore will hip check you out of moderate irritation, not even intending to kill, but it's one tonne of muscle so your pelvis and ribcage gave their best humpty dumpty fall impression and shattered into many many pieces. Plus, the North American predators that attack humans sometimes just aren't that common. Mountain Lions are endangered but also relatively small. Unless a human is ambushed totally unawares, the news is filled with stories of hikers or bikers giving as much as they got, or even better, and taking out the Mountain Lions while only sustaining moderate injuries. Ballpoint pen > Cougar.
Overall though my fellow Americans need to wail about wildlife being some scary danger less, and perhaps be more mindful around common cattle or unknown domestic dogs.
@@wyattw9727 yep
ive heard the number of 1000 croc fatalities per annum before and read somewhere that it is rather inflated but then again many types of animal attacks aren't too well documented so we have to infer i guess. either way i once spent time researching deadly animals and couldn't really find too much on crocs :( but after some highly uneducated pondering i came to the conclusion that saltwater crocodiles could be earths deadliest species in terms of killing by predation🐊. would be curious if anyone knows more on this.
anyways, my grandma was almost killed by her horse so i agree, please be careful around them..
Yes that is an estimate for the worldwide figure. And would be hard to fully verify. I doubt will never know for sure. But with respect to Australia it's very well supported. I grew up with horses myself. My partner has one now. I love horses but they're more dangerous than motorbikes and I've had both.
It's becoming of a stereotype because of the mainstream media
Not sure what you mean here
Man , I'm an Aussie an Australia is no drama , no predators apart from Crocs , horses kill more people here , we have the most facinating Elapids , on earth , but sharks are in Sth Africa , I've held blue rings , platypus will irritate , it superfluous exercise
It's my professional opinion that you'd be unwise to handle blue ringed octopus or platypus. In the latter case I'm also pretty sure that it's illegal. Just saying
@RealPaleontology Yeah , Port Phillip Bay has the HMAS Cerberus, as a reef , we'd dive for abolone , and put em in a bag , a few times I've empied the bag a in the bag a Blue Ring, but they are aposematic and when mis handled they get big faint purple Rings and then an Irredesant Blue, then , no touch , we return them to the reef , and never handled a Platypus , but Echidna taken a few off rds , as you know both males have spurs , And monotremes also , cheers Ric
Yeah, I'd be way more worried about sharks that octopus there. I've moved a few echidna off the road myself. Geez those spiked little buggers are difficult to budge once they get dug in. Incredibly strong. They do have spurs, but they are not venomous like the male platypus.
@RealPaleontology Yes , and they always wee on me , but they so slow , it freaks me out , so I know how to pick them up , but nervous not so small for a small mammals , they are beautiful but dig into the ground when put down so now I make sure it is soft ground off the road . Cheers , Ric
South Africa? White and tiger sharks are in both the north Atlantic and the north Pacific and bull sharks can swim right up the Mississippi.
Wroe, Cattle are not Native to North America prior to the arrival of the Spanish Conquistadors.
Whatever your name is. Did I say that cattle were native North America?
@@RealPaleontology American Cows are the European in Origin like the Texas Longhorn, the Cracker Cattle and the Corriente Cattle.
Great video
Hey thanks for that
PS there is stacks of food here mate you should grab some
11:27 from the clues I was guessing mosquito
They are very big Killers but not in Australia
It should also be pointed out that many deaths caused by wildlife in Australia are actually tourists so i dont even think its fair or necessary to correct for population.
@@Hurricayne92 absolutely right! Taurus account for a high percentage
I found this a very interesting listen. Counting car related deaths, involving wild animals to me is wrong. Could be driver error, vehicle malfunction due to poor mantanance, any number of things. Say I was driving at 240 km per hour, hit a kangaroo and died. Was it a roo death or a speed death?
Overall very interesting. Thank you for these statistics. Just hope I am never one.
Thx. And sure that's a reasonable argument. But I'm just calling it here by the coroner's definitions
Sadly Cape Town has become a bit of a rape & murder etc capital, probably worse than most US or Aus cities...
Our 'big five' & other so-called dangerous South African game largely live in well managed parks where nasty encounters are exceptionally uncommon...
I do wish to share that, in the '90s, I spent a lot of time hiking & fishing in a still very wild part of the Eastern Cape. We became good friends with a local family that lived in their huts closest to my favorite destination. We'd greet them on the way in & drop off leftover foods on the way out. (They were actually quite proficient small scale farmers but loved things like sugar, teabags & soup packets etc)...
It was rare that the hi & what's new greeting on the way in didn't include a story of another local 'umfaan' (a young boy, probably herding cattle or just running around) recently being nabbed by a black mamba & generally dying from the bite... I only ever had a 'run in' (a speedy back-track is more descriptive) with a big one once... Other snakes may technically be more venomous but a black mamba is deadly, they get huge & they're fast and aggressive...
I have no clue of any black mamba fatalities stats & doubt those umfaans would even have featured on them as the nearest hospital & police station were 100+ km away on a foot path that became a dirt track & eventually a shoddy dirt road.
Yes I know that South Africa is unfortunately a rather dangerous place. A friend of mine's partner was murdered in Johannesburg. I'm not sure about South Africa in particular but certainly overall there are many animal related deaths. Hippos crocodiles Buffalo and lions all take a toll. How to stop me from visiting though. I've visited several times. A safari in Botswana a few years ago was a particular highlight for me.
@@RealPaleontology Sorry to hear about your friend's partner, I try to avoid Johannesburg & not just because of the crime rate... Despite all our problems I'm still very fond of South & Southern Africa in general though. Very kind of you to reply to the comments, respect...
If you factor in the climate, human and geological factors the US would be far more dangerous than Australia. Also you can outrun a spider and a snake but not a Bear.
The west coast of the US is seismically active, Australia is not.
As for climate. Australia’s deadliest threats are heat related which includes bushfires. They also get bad flooding and Tropical Storms
As for the US take your pick of what dangerous climate you want depending on where you live, Tornadoes, Hurricanes, Flooding as well as the same heat related threats that OZ has including obviously wild fires. On top of that you have the added threat of extreme cold which doesn’t exist in Australia including Blizzards and Ice Storms as well as very low temperatures.
Thanks for that. It would be interesting to do a thorough comparison of the reality of climate threats!
Cows can be scary
@@niksnavnn1128 well they sure are pretty big
Dear win by a Stag-gering?
Not sure I know what you mean
The have the right to arm bears in America so lay down isn't it . R
Second Amendment right?
What can I say . R
Its true. Here in the usa other people have almost got me 6 times in 20 years.
Are you serious? Man, you gotta get out of there!
@RealPaleontology 4 were car related accidents. But 2 were people w deadly intent.
I also forgot a eagle tried to eat me once as a toddler so that turns it to 7.
Im ok though. Ive moved around alot. But cars are everywhere lol
@@dagoodboy6424 an Eagle tried to eat you?!! What a fantastic story! Shame know one court it on video!
@RealPaleontology id rather it didnt. I wouldnt want anything bad to happen to eagles. It may have just been terratorial. Idk
Oh yeah this vid a banger
@@gameboy7664 thanks heaps!
This was a recommendation and really didn’t surprise me. As an Aussie I never considered this country as being that dangerous when it comes to animal attacks when you look at even in the US after all the fail videos I’ve seen the biggest thing that will get you killed quickly no matter where you go is when interacting with animals is a person’s stupidity, ignorance and worrying to much about getting that perfect shot instead of their surroundings.
Awareness is very important that's official.
I didn't know that Chrisrolph Waltz was into multi continental statistics.
It's pretty early in the morning here, but I gotta say I'm struggling to draw any connections in this one?
Where I live in this American town, has like 5 locations or more I can think of with barking guard dogs, some of them were probably not socialized right, and I was even chased by one.
Be careful!
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I assume that means you like the video
@ it does hahaha it was very fun
Thanks!
I don't even think that was an ar fifteen I think it was an ar fifteen twenty two, which is a twenty two caliber version of an AR15
I'll take your word for that.
I heard 45 years ago in 1979 for the last spider death, prepared to be corrected.🦘
True that. It was 32-year-old Christine Sturges from near Wollongong. But that does not make my claim that no one's been killed by a spider here since 1981 and the introduction of an antivenom incorrect. Incidentally, there is also a claim out there that a young man was killed by a redback spider in 2016, but this appears to to remain unverified.
@@RealPaleontology thanks for replying mate. 🦘
@@RealPaleontology your intro about getting off the plane and dying was great. I always tell overseas people that we have our fair share of elderly people, (including me), how does anyone suppose they got to be, "elderly" If we're all gonna die before we turn three?😹🦘