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RealPaleontology
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Приєднався 20 сер 2024
Hi, I'm Prof Steve Wroe. I've spent 30 years researching paleontology and published over 120 scientific articles on subjects ranging from giant sea scorpions to monster sharks, terror birds, Neanderthals, saber-cats and marsupial lions (see Google Scholar link). I've written many popular science articles too (see links). I figure this makes me a real paleontologist....
Here on RealPaleontology, I will present videos covering these species and many more. I'll also delve into broader questions, e.g., how do paleontologists predict behaviour in fossil animals, how do we determine their relationships to each other, and what drives extinctions in the first place? We begin with a series focused on animals that have dominated their ecosystems: the super-predators.
I aim to provide entertaining content for anyone interested in learning about paleontology from a real paleontologist, backed by direct access to the latest research. I hope you will enjoy.
Here on RealPaleontology, I will present videos covering these species and many more. I'll also delve into broader questions, e.g., how do paleontologists predict behaviour in fossil animals, how do we determine their relationships to each other, and what drives extinctions in the first place? We begin with a series focused on animals that have dominated their ecosystems: the super-predators.
I aim to provide entertaining content for anyone interested in learning about paleontology from a real paleontologist, backed by direct access to the latest research. I hope you will enjoy.
Bear with no fear
Meet the honey badger of the bear world. It has no choice but to be fearless. Prof Steve Wroe explains why.
#bear #tiger #Science #predator
#bear #tiger #Science #predator
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Відео
Big cat vs big bear
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What actually happens when big cats and big bears collide? Get the real facts from a real scientist. Prof Steve Wroe, gives you the real science. Eric decades of research into the relationship between the Siberian tiger and the big Ussuri brown bear it shares it's territory. Strap yourself in for a wild ride. #science #paleontology #siberian tiger #bear
Why no sabertooths today
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The sabertooth super predator design package evolves, goes extinct, and evolves again. Over and over. Can the very latest research tell us why? Prof Steve Wroe explains. #Smilodon #super-predator #science #paleontology #convergence
The evolution of human running. Clues from little Lucy, our most famous fossil ancestor.
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Computer simulation shows that our little ancestor could run, but not so well. Lucy, the famous 3.7 million year old Australopithecus afarensis, also tells us how our ancestors made the shift to endurance running and persistence hunting. #humanevolution #paleontology #animals #wildlife #fossil #evolution #australopithecus
Xenosmilus
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There's a new kind of super cat on the block! It's super-sized, with shark-like teeth and it's own unique body plan. And it might just be the most awesome cat that ever lived. Meet Xenosmilus the sabertooth cat that broke the mold. #animals #paleontology #dinoscience #science #sabertooth #evolution
HUMANS did not ELIMINATE the MEGAFAUNA in an INSTANT.
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The megafauna are gone. No one has a proven explanation. But at least one long cherished explanation has been comprehensively disproven. Watch and find out. #animals #megafauna #extinction #science #evolution
World's first sabertooth!
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And ghostly mystery regarding our mammalian origins revealed
Cambrian carnage. A 500 million year old murder mystery.
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Anomalocaris? Or the King of trilobites? Who was responsible for the mass killings at Emu Bay.
Marsupial lion, mother and child
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The heart-breaking untold story of a marsupial lioness and her little joey; and, the first complete marsupial lion skeleton now on display.
He's not weird, we're the strange ones!
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You think you know what makes us human. You're probably wrong. Ditch the AI BS and arm chair experts. Get the real answers with Prof Steve Wroe @RealPaleontology
Terror bird
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Not a bird to be taken lightly. Prof Steve Wroe unpacks the mystery of a terror bird kill scene.
Prof Steve gives his super predator ranking system
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There are super predators, and then there are super, super predators. Find out why.
Why do Neanderthals have such big noses and long faces?
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Prof Steve Wroe answers this long standing question!
Inostranscevia: globe-trotting super-predator from hell
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Inostranscevia: globe-trotting super-predator from hell
Homotherium: stunning frozen mummy and more.
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Homotherium: stunning frozen mummy and more.
Who's deadliest? You'll be surprized!
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Who's deadliest? You'll be surprized!
The giant Haast's eagle has competition!
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The giant Haast's eagle has competition!
Gut sucking scavenger? Or super-predator?
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Gut sucking scavenger? Or super-predator?
Find out the winners and the losers in the Big Bite All-time Championship League
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Find out the winners and the losers in the Big Bite All-time Championship League
The real paleo diet. Human hunting & feeding behavior over 3 million yrs
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The real paleo diet. Human hunting & feeding behavior over 3 million yrs
Tyrannosaurus rex: How does the King stack up against growing competition?
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Tyrannosaurus rex: How does the King stack up against growing competition?
Prof Wroe busts this big hyena myth.
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Prof Wroe busts this big hyena myth.
MEGALODON: separating the fact from the hype. Was it really the biggest & baddest?
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MEGALODON: separating the fact from the hype. Was it really the biggest & baddest?
Thylacoleo: The biggest biter ever.
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Thylacoleo: The biggest biter ever.
So your theory behind Terror-Bird ethology is they were like Dromaeosaurs but copied off the Carcharodontosaurs and their homework?
You could put it like that.
This is a great video! Although I have a question, You said the lion had a maximum bite force of 2,400 Newtons, The highest in the whole sample. I did not see this in the study though, did I miss it or was it not mentioned?
Thank you, glad you liked it. Thank you glad you liked it. Actually, I think I took that figure from another paper I did with Per Christiansen: Bite force and evolutionary adaptations to feeding ecology in carnivores. If you type that title into your browser you should be able to find a free download if you're interested. I also generated predictions for both the African lion and marsupial lion using computer simulation in another paper too.
@RealPaleontology no problem. That's the one I read and it said lions were at lower than tigers on the graph, unless there is something I missed. Oh nice! What's the title of this other paper?
'Beer and skittles' is a very strange phrase for Americans. lol
There are some pretty strange American sayings to an Aussie to mate. Glad to have expanded your international vocabulary.
T-Rex is like Elvis. They both are and always will be The King!!🤴 Ahuh, Ahuh....yay, yay, yay!!🕺👍
And I hear Elvis is still alive unlike T-Rex
@RealPaleontology 😊👍
Xenosmilus and the American Lion are my absolute favorite cats, particularly the Xenosmilus. Those teeth and that size, it had to be doing something absolutely wicked, maybe something we haven't really seen before, or perhaps something we have seen just dialed up to 11. Has there been any isotope analysis done on what it was eating? Could it maybe have been a specialized crocodilian killer? It seems to have the build and weaponry. Maybe the bite force isn't quite there? For whatever reason that's how I picture it. Prowling in undergrowth along creeks and rivers, exploding out towards its crocodilian prey, much like a Jaguar.
Absolutely awesome animal agreed. And there is evidence of a sabre Cat killing a Cayman. I will chase that up
Great video! Thanks for your hard work and debunking a lot of the misinformation with actual facts
Thanks glad you liked it. Feel free to share it around and maybe check out some of my other vids!
At a glance this morning, this video thumbnail looked like "Melania: The Real Story", and I thought the picture looked appropriate.
Don't see the resemblance myself but I guess it's in the eye of the beholder
@@RealPaleontology It's the same reptilian, you-are-nothing-but-a-source-of-warmth-that-is-too-large-to-swallow look in the eye.
The thing that interests me now is a sort of cultural blitzkrieg. The first Native Americans were either sea faring or had lived in isolated pockets in Alaska for centuries. Neither of which would have had the know how to routinely hunt large megafauna. Clovis clearly represents a massive cultural shift and it’s at the time the largest megafauna went extinct. Maybe it’s a coincidence or maybe this culture became so successful because they learned how to hunt the megafauna successfully thus leading to their explosion in numbers and the spread of their culture.
We know humans were hunting megafauna before they arrived in North America - the point I'm making here is that we now know that if humans did play a major role in their extinction, it didn't happen quickly, but over thousands of years. But it does seem that the Clovis people did develop stone technology that may have been particularly effective.
@@RealPaleontology sure but I was more talking about the particulars of the people who first made it to the Americas. Either the kelp highway seafarers or the long isolated group in Alaska. Both of which may have lost or abandoned true large megafauna hunting before their arrival meaning their descendent would have needed to rediscover the strategies and technologies.
One day, there will be a place on Earth that will sanction real fights between top predators. Once there are enough fights, we will have good data to determine which animal is the strongest. I would like to remind readers that the Spanish fighting bulls are proven killers of both bears and lions Anyway, both big bears and big cats make impressive taxidermy mounts or simple rugs. They will look good in museums or even private homes.
sincerely hope that never happens
If you’re ever in the woods and stumble upon me fighting a Siberian Tiger and an Ussuri Brown bear, help the Tiger and Bear…
Wouldn't fancy your chances hand to hand
Love your digression into average body mass vs. maximal. Maximal tells us rather very little about an animal's functional ecology, but average body mass gives us a huge window into understanding how an animal interacts with its environment and other animals. It's very much one of the things that spurred my research into the thylacine's body mass; the values given in the literature just didn't make any damn sense when I started looking at the actual specimens. It's like trying to understand humans by using Andre the Giant as the data point.
Yep, obviously I mean full agreement! And size is such a fundamental aspect of an animals biology end ecology. Incidentally in your paper on body mass in the thylacine, Did you take a stab at body weight mean for different populations? Specimens in WA appeared to be much smaller still?
@@RealPaleontology In my paper I did not; I very consciously focused just on the 'modern' Tasmanian population. The thought was to build a solid, quantified baseline for the more easily vetted modern population, then use that to explore the subfossil and fossil mainland populations. Clearly, the PhD didn't offer me enough time or resources to do that, and as I'm no longer a researcher, it won't get done until someone else with a lot of time and smarts comes along. On the mainland populations, though: yes indeed, the WA specimens are tiny - smaller than dingoes. Interestingly, I have seen both tiny (similar to the WA thylacines: my body mass estimate for one specimen is only 12 kg, and it's fully adult) and gigantic thylacines just from VIC - and I say gigantic without any hyperbole. There's a newly recovered partial skull and mandible from out in Gippsland that is of a size with, if not bigger than the Thylacinus potens holotype. Also, the teeth are slightly different, too - a little less-derived, and with a bit of a honking M4. But very clearly T. cynocephalus 'grade' teeth, just not in line with what the modern population looked like. The specimen was part of a poster presentation at the last CAVEPS; I can email the poster to you if you'd like. There are definitely a LOT of avenues of research to pursue regarding the mainland thylacines. This was going to be my research direction after the PhD, but I just couldn't find a job here to save my life, haha. I suspect we have several different regional populations with their own little adaptations (e.g., body size), as well as time-stratified population differences. But you know as well as I do that the dating of any of these fossils is just not there.
@realpaleontology please do amphicyon
It's definitely on the list!
This is why I love science and hate politics. A scientist proposes a reasonable idea. A dissenting scientist gathers data from a vast number of groups, empirically demonstrates the hypothesis to be false, and then praises it for its validity while simultaneously acknowledging the core of truth within it. Academic, respectful, and clean. Beautiful.
Hey thanks heaps!
Tigers would be breakfast for grizzly, Kodiak, black and Polar bears. Tigers don't stand a chance.
Thanks for your opinion.
Ive watched this 5 times. That's why i say you're the Greatest Of All Time. Or GOAT for short.
Geez thanks Nebula. Really good to know that some people really appreciate it because quite a lot of work goes into these.
The only way human hunting led to mammoth extinction would be to admit to an advanced culture spanning entire continents in wgich there was a trade in mammoth meat and they were harvested on an idustrial scale. Hypothetical testing would be evidence of meat preservation methods such as smoke houses or salt mining. Otherwise i woukd assume their extinction is not directly human related.
This is certainly an ongoing debate that's dragged on for will over a century and I wouldn't be surprised to know that it dragged on for centuries more
*sabre
Yeah I do feel a little conflicted using the American spelling
@@RealPaleontology it’s only because I’m English haha
fascinating! yet another great video. Would you mind analyzing Clouded leopards teeth? They are the closest to saber teeth as we have right now. I know they are not really, but how close are they?
Yes a beautiful animal I have a cast of a clouded leopard skull on my desk. Per Christensen wrote a paper on this in 2006 I think. They are long canines that's for sure. It might be worth doing a very short the video on.
10:52 "...8.4% of the 743 bear scats analyzed." Shouldn't that be tiger scats?
Dammit yes
I have some thoughts on this: Modern cats have to tear off chunks of meat by biting with their cheek teeth. With saber teeth in the way, it would be easier to feed with front teeth that protuded forward. Also, with this type of tooth structure a cat could tear off hunks of meat faster which could be useful in a place like africa or ice age north america where there are numberous other predators who want to steal your kill.
They certainly did use those shark like incisors to tear out meat, but we can tell from the wear patterns that they also used those big shearing cheek teeth in the side
Hail to the King, baby!
Deserve more subscribers.
Thank you! Not doing too badly I think considering it's only a few months old. But it would be nice to have more!
I know why…. No veterinarians with dental 🦷skills!?!?!🤔🤦🏽♂️🤣🥸
Great video Steve….. keep-em coming
@@richardtruckner2203 thank you Richard. And I will keep them coming
Did gorgons hunt dicynodonts or just paraeisaurs like scutosaurus?
Yes they did
@RealPaleontology do we have proof they hunted dicynodonts? It seems likely but the only large Permian dicynodont I am aware of is lystrosaurus.
good video 😎
thanks
good stuff! I recall reading the hyena (including kin) are NOT supremely adapted for bone crushing (just very good), and crack teeth, etc, on occasions (inc prehistoric varieties). The Borophagus/bone crushing dogs of north america were a little better at it, or so I read or heard. Any chance to do a video on that family of extinct dogs? Epicyon, Aelurodon eta all await! for reference (& your updates or comments) ua-cam.com/video/yJenvpa3wVs/v-deo.html edit: re-watched, and it was bone crushing DIRE WOLVES that weren't as good at it, breaking teeth sometimes. Still would like something on bone crushing dogs, not a ton out there on them
Can you make a video about Nimravids and Barbourofelis the cat like animals?
Absolutely will and have been doing some research on these over although I can't say exactly when
@RealPaleontology thank you
please come back to the brains
Is a will we've done some work on that
@@RealPaleontology great (also, just found your channel the other day, lots to explore still)
nice! I'd prefer a bit more depth in each video, but I get that you are following you tube's artificial selection...so I'll ask for MORE such videos instead
Thanks. Of course it does take quite a bit of time to put these together
@@RealPaleontology I've no idea, but I 100% believe you! you will get tricks & such, get better with practice, but apparently you tube is never that easy to make for. Thanks for the videos you make
Thank you
cool video, and it certainly is an area with lots of questions & need for exploration & double & triple checking
Thank you
In half a second I can think of : walrus, warthog, hippopotamus
Yep but they're very differently shaped teeth an obviously for a different purpose
Thanks again for your lucid explanation. Somewhere I had seen the Clouded Leopard (Neofelis nebulosa) presented as a living sabre-toothed cat and when I just checked at Wiki, the canines on the skull image certainly looked impressive, but clearly conical and not flattened like a true sabre-tooth (more an estoc-toothed perhaps). The Wiki page also has an image with a pretty impressive gaping mouth, though. Has anyone studied how the Clouded Leopard kills its prey?
Yes a beautiful animal and intriguing.
I actually have the cast of clouded leopard skull in my office. Unfortunately there's very little information on how they kill their prey. A very reclusive animal.
If you factor in the climate, human and geological factors the US would be far more dangerous than Australia. Also you can outrun a spider and a snake but not a Bear. The west coast of the US is seismically active, Australia is not. As for climate. Australia’s deadliest threats are heat related which includes bushfires. They also get bad flooding and Tropical Storms As for the US take your pick of what dangerous climate you want depending on where you live, Tornadoes, Hurricanes, Flooding as well as the same heat related threats that OZ has including obviously wild fires. On top of that you have the added threat of extreme cold which doesn’t exist in Australia including Blizzards and Ice Storms as well as very low temperatures.
Thanks for that. It would be interesting to do a thorough comparison of the reality of climate threats!
1 advantage is aesthetics. We tend to choose more beautiful/handsome mates. Unfortunately, it’s taboo to explore this subject.
But then beauties in the eye of the beholder. I suspects thought we looked pretty strange too!
You deserve more subscribers but you got one more from me brother 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
Awesome thanks for that. The channels only a few months old it seems to be doing well. Hopefully we'll get to a decent subscriber count in the not too far distant future!
In some areas where Tigers meet the larger Brown bears they make regular kills of juvenile or female bears. Mature and larger male Brown bears weighing twice the weight of the Tiger are avoided by the cats .
Yes, I think you'd enjoy my episode on the Siberian tiger and Ussuri brown bear.
I have come to find the Permian and Early Triassic Synapsids way more interesting than the Dinosaurs. The Dinosaurs are big and flashy. But these Synapsids. They got character. And are the true allstars in my book.
I get that. I think the fact that they get so little attention makes them even more interesting.
I can’t imagine homotherium hid those enormous teeth inside its mouth.
Fascinating video. I'm wondering how much those extra-long claws of the sloth bear make a difference in a fight? They're specialist diggers which probably means their forelegs are stronger than other bears of similar size that don't dig as much. I don't have the strength data of this species to draw any definite conclusions, but if they do have a lot of upper body strength combined with those claws it makes sense they'd be a formidable opponent when defending themselves. Add the highly aggressive temperament...
Thank you. And yes there's absolutely no doubt that those four paws and claws can do serious damage. And obviously the big cat knows it. But of course the cat has a number of advantages over the bear, including at least twice the Bike force pound for pound.
This is why I subscribed, thank you!
Cool thanks for that!
5:45 not really prehistoric predators did a biomechanical test on this and the belly biting was deemed unlikely, the lower jaw got in the way
@@jacksonmoore4159 what are you talking about Jackson. I was in that documentary.
@@RealPaleontology i know and i watched it again and again and the crash test dummy they used couldnt make the bite cuz of the lower jaw. they did an experiment with a physical prop on like a cow corpse i think it was
@@RealPaleontology ua-cam.com/video/koTpCWHUxa4/v-deo.html 39:00 and youll see what im talking about, they used a crash test smilodon skull replica on a cow carcass and it couldnt penetrate the belly, larry martin also had a good point that when you wrangle a cow you never do it from behind you go to the neck.
Sure, I also think it's more likely that they went for the neck. The reenactment using a model on a species that did not exist in ice Age North America on a documentary does not disprove the belly bite hypothesis.
Agreed/makes sense to me...and you didn't even cover the long legs (as they are long), body, etc. I've gotten confused by the endless contradictory studies on these guys, but I've also figured out why: plenty if scientists are hacks & /or frauds, and even among worthwhile ones, there are some contrarians that are contrary for the sake of being contrary. Anyone that makes claims about "primarily a scavenger" lose all respect from instantly anymore. There is no such thing among large critters, which doesn't preclude there EVER was, but it would require incredible evidence to make such an incredible claim. Predators scavenge. Big, and or numerous ones will often steal kills. It's not that complicated or hard to understand...now I'd get a general public shmoe thinking "scavenger, like a spotted hyena", but any scientist (in fields relating to animals in any way) not understanding hyenas are deadly & skilled HUNTERS, ie they disprove the notion...well, they don't deserve the designation (or any profession respect).
Glad you agree. But I think you're being a bit harsh on the paleontologists in general. Obviously I've known mini paleontologists I can assure you that the vast majority are simply trying to get to the facts. You're a suddenly ambiguous and contradictory signals from the fossil record regarding this bear. It's not surprising that we get a wide range of interpretations.
@@RealPaleontology I'm less hard on paleontologists than most other fields, I don't mock most anything, generally, but I'm simply not accepting "primarily a scavenger" idiocy anymore. Sorry, I'm not sorry, it's disqualifying (in context, ie large animals). Blame Horner & T-rex provocations perhaps? It's not like Jack's an idiot or failure either, but...well, you aren't going to agree, and that's ok, you can be wrong about "breaks deserved". EDIT: name me the/any large animal that is primary a scavenger.
Loved the video!
Thank you
Several people here are postulating that Thylacosmilus was an insectivore, but I don't see it. It seems to me that the development of oversized canines would correlate with "going big" in terms of prey choices rather than "going small," but I'm just taking a logical guess at that. It seems to me more likely that Thylacosmilus would do something like sneak up on sleeping/dozing megafauna, take an aggressive bite at the belly, retreat, let them bleed out, quickly go for the guts once they died, and then leave the rest to others. It would act a bit like a hit and run predator of larger animals...sort of a like cookie cutter shark or the way Komodo dragons deal with larger animals like water buffalo or deer.
Yeah did that it is an insectivore is absurd. Obviously I'm largely in agreement with your interpretation
Quinkana were another good reason for her to drag prey up a tree
I always found Xenosmilus fascinating, the Florida freak, standing out for breaking the rules, or rather, overturning our assumptions. I hadn't known of the Venezuelan or south american variants ( homotheriums as I'd heard), and certainly not that they were much larger still. Surely varieties ranged the entire arc of southern north america & northern south america (though you seem one especially allergic to obvious inference over direct evidence, absolute proof only), but I'm not...where the terrain/vegetation/ecosystem was favorable in between, they did go
Really not sure what your point is there what do you think I'm allergic to
Prof steve Do you agree with me on these topics 1. Tiger muscle mass Tiger fat accounts provide two sources which both provides it around 13.3 and 13.8% and by taking the avg of these we get 13.5% fat. So by doing simple math and accounts on tigers skin and fur,skeleton and organ weights We will get 57% muscle in which the organs comprises around 7% the fur and skin is around 10% skeleton is around 12.5% and the fat is around 13.5% as I mentioned earlier. 2. 1) Study: Bertram and Biewner, 1990. Metric: ML diameter of humerus at midshaft in relation to humeral length. Correlated With: Resistance of humerus to stresses along the ML axis. Sample Size: 4 lions, 2 tigers. Lion: 8.92%; 12.78% Tiger: 8.57%; 11.37% Edge lion 2) Study: Christiansen and Harris, 2005. Metric: ML diameter of humerus at midshaft in relation to humeral length. Correlated With: Resistance of humerus to stresses along the ML axis. Sample Size: 3 lions, 5 tigers. Lion: 8.97% Tiger: 8.70% Edge: Lion. 3) Study: Meachen-Samuels and Van Valkenburgh, 2010. Metric: ML diameter of humerus at midshaft in relation to humeral length. Correlated With: Resistance of humerus to stresses along the ML axis. Sample Size: 2 lions, 2 tigers. Lion: 8.24% Tiger: 9.09% Edge: Tiger. 1) Study: Christiansen and Adolfssen, 2007. Metric: Least circumference of humeral diaphysis in relation to humeral length. Correlated With: Overall resistance of humerus to stress. Sample Size: 17 lions, 15 tigers. Lion: 31.8% Tiger: 30.3% Edge: Lion 2) Study: Christiansen and Harris, 2005. Metric: Least circumference of humeral diaphysis in relation to humeral length. Correlated With: Overall bending strength of humerus. Sample Size: 3 lions, 5 tigers. Lion: 31.4% Tiger: 30% Edge: Lion. Study: Christiansen and Harris, 2005. Metric: AP diameter of humerus at midshaft in relation to humeral length. Correlated With: Resistance of humerus to stresses along the AP axis. Sample Size: 3 lions, 5 tigers. Lion: 10.98% Tiger: 10.37% Edge lion So does this means the lions have better grappling abilities and tigers can accelerate faster
I really think that the differences here a pretty minimal particularly given the small simple size. Also how many of these animals are wild caught as opposed to zoo animals?
@@RealPaleontology Which one muscle mass data or limb robusticity
*True, with anti-venom Australia is way more safe, in USA there are grizzlies, wolves, cougars, jaguars, black bears, but these won't bother you unless you are outside of house, but insects will.**
True but it's hard to live life without going outside. The fact is no one's been killed by a spider here for decades
@@RealPaleontology *Yes, humans can greatly coexist with both if come with right approach.*
by the way Doc i love your videos thanks for putting these on
Hey thanks for that