thanks for the shoutout and raising awareness. dude admitted to everything on a call so brazenly it was hard to stomach. hope these scumbags are brought to justice soon.
@@mattyice2099 do everyone a favor and just report them, it’ll take UA-cam a while to get rid of these desperate bots if there competent about it. but it’ll happen sooner or later.
The feds need to swoop in and arrest this dude. Straight up running a Ponzi scheme and admits it live on twitch and he’s still not behind bars?!?! Wtf?!
I used to watch his RV streams way back when, his content is quite literally praying on people down on their luck, suffering from mental illness, drug addiction, etc, etc, this shouldn't of been a massive surprise by any means.
1:35 it's literally like that one sketch in The Office US where Michael reads off a pyramid scheme to everyone, but blatantly believes otherwise until Jim walks up and draws a pyramid on his board of ideas. Classic.
@@blipblop1112 because he’s being rewarded because people keep falling for it, ofc the obvious solution is for authorities to be involved then it’s done for good, but somehow that hasn’t happened.
CoffeeZilla, Spencer Cornelia, Tom Nash, man these guys have come a long way. From exposing/ending the careers of fake gurus like Dan Lok, Tai Lopez to exposing legit stupid UA-camrs, I gotta say I’m glad they’re here, these scams have to stop.
I mean can you blame him he's been doing it for years and is super honest about it. I wouldn't be surprised if someone asked him exactly what his next scam was and he just laid it all out for everyone to hear then continued to do exactly that.
4:42 This is honestly the hardest hitting part. I am poor as hell, toilet doesn't work, bathroom floor caving in, roof leaks, roof falling in, hot water didn't work for two months, electricity in half my house doesn't work and I know what it's like to live without things that quite honestly I'd love to have. The fact he straight up admits he took the money and feels no regrets despite being RICH and not needing the money is honestly one of the most disheartening things to hear as a fan of Ice Poseidon. This completely changes my view on the guy and I will no longer be supporting him.
Most likely it was all the new fans on UA-cam. When Ice's stream was dying, all the old fans (who knew him) stopped watching him. He basically reformed his fan-base, and those new fans fell for this scam because they don't know his past at all.
He doesnt have a hero complex... He has whats called a "Good Guy Facade". He has a NEED to be seen as a "good guy" and when confronted with the truth, he rejects it. Even though Coffee did a great job making him logically see he rugged the project. The good guy facade is created during our formative years when the person receives constant "praising" with no healthy feedback for wrong actions from parental guidance. As you can see, it creates a twisted reality which can be hugely damaging to the people in their surroundings. Edit: More info on the good guy facade. Repairing the Good guy facade is incredibly hard and traumatic. It involves coming to terms with a few fundamental truths... mainly that your parental guardians failed you. Guardians are meant to teach right from wrong, and usually when that fails its because of the twisted realities of those Guardians. Confronting the Good Guy Facade will strain the relationship with them because you essentially have to tell them they were wrong. Most people are terrified to go to that place.. Its filled with fear, sadness and grief. Especially because it often means removing any relationship you have with them (usually the parents) until they go through their own reflection and coming terms with the wrong they did - which may not happen during their lifetime. It takes a huge amount of humility to accept this scenario and to undergo it emotionally feeling the truth of it all. This is why most people choose not to go through it, and instead prefer to deny any wrongdoing at all.
I remember the time he streamed from his phone Twitch IRL and someone outside jumped off a building committing suicide. People behind him were freaking out and the body landed behind him on a car and he was only worried about Twitch banning his account showing no empathy or care for the person's safety.
Honestly at this point if the viewers fall for it, it’s on them. This is like getting scammed by a sign that says “scam, pay me 10 bucks and you get nothing” and still handing the 10 dollars over.
Man I love your videos my favorite part is how in videos like These you only react to a portion of the video and then shoutout the creator and let everybody go and support them it’s really wholesome
@@resetedanchorpure you cannot retire w 300k - 500k without being extremely frugal your entire life. i heard he bought a tesla or something, he’s gonna come crawling back soon.
How is flat out lying about the amount he gave back (40k instead of 155k) or about he can't give the money back (the coin would just drop to zero and the money would be gone) honesty? I don't get why people don't see through these people? It's the same with politicians, ever heard the phrase 'at least he is honestly speaking what he thinks'. Some politicians come to mind! How do people not get that a person that is honest about one thing that others wouldn't say so openly but still lying to their teeth about other things are not more honest, they're in fact less honest. It's a strategy to fool people, nothing more. First you bought his crypto and now you let him fool you again in believing he is honest about anything.
Ice has never really hidden him being a piece of garbage. He was the irl king at one point. Crazy how far he fell. Seems like the first rv trip was yesterday.
He didn't get caught on purpose, but when he did and realized the exposed videos would come out, he tried his best to save face and explain himself. You see this a lot with psychopathic murderers, they will explain it to try to explain why what they did was correct when in reality they are just sealing their fate of guilty verdict. They care more about their image than protecting themselves legally, morons.
Well at no point does he hide the fact. He is actively saying his stuff is unhealthy and don't do it. It's like having 7 signs saying cliff at the end of this road, yeah he made the cliff but it's their fault for not reading the signs
@George Sommer it's not my fault the person who made the metaphor had the iq of an infant monkey learning how to steal soda out a vending machine. I was just simply more intelligent and noticed the flaws in said simple minded metaphor.
Honestly with his history of scamming and stealing and people STILL invested into it... they're idiots. Investing on a bigger level has safeguards and he doesn't and like he said he's been stealing money and screwing over people and people still invested. How dumb are people?
@@blakecacini8016 Stop living in absolutes... Ice is a dickhead and the people who invested were idiots. Multi-tier processing friend... embrace the future of thought processing.
lol he could've legitly stole his fans money by advertising nfts without taking backlash for a few years til people realize they blew their lifes savings on a tiny picture
Its weird watching him on the side of a road, alone in the dark, speaking candidly about how much he valued his stream shortly before being banned on twitch. To this. I mean he was never perfect but this is just horrible.
I feel bad for anyone that has to represent him in any legal settings. Must be a constant ball of stress worrying about him incriminating himself every minute of every day.
I imagine him in court like this: Lawyer: Your honor my client did nothing wrong, it was a mistake This dude: Your honor is a lie, I did it knowingly and I don't give a fuck
@@youtyiyyutuu104 my guy with a simple add-on all I got to do is hover over your link to icescammer to see that it is actually a link to a dead viewless channel and a bad quality trucking game video, after that shit title i had to click, 3 seconds of watching and my shit video allergy went nuts, improve your content or gtfo of here..... edit{grammar AND THE FOLLOWING p.s.} P.S. my bad the channel isn't dead it's almost dead, sorry for the mishap
I just realized that ice poseidon was the guy that got sprayed by a fire extinguisher, at first i was upset that happened to him but now im glad it happened to him
If you feel bad for these people who are inherently greedy, you got a problem. These people need to also be held accountable for their actions into trusting such idiocy. It's ridiculous that we let people who are trying to be greedy off the hook.
@@buckbucker8020 I don’t feel sad for the people nor is it really hilarious nothing funny really happened. People just need to realize that investing the only money you have in crypto isn’t a good idea.
No idea what he's doing these days but the guy was one of the pioneers of Twitch, particularly IRL streaming, along with Reckful. His streams back in the day were awesome. Seems like that's all gone and he's gone down a dark road but it doesn't surprise me he still has fans, some people are just loyal.
He used to be one of the most known streamers on Twitch, and he was pretty funny to watch mostly because he was so stupid. He has definitely changed A LOT in the last 5-6 years and not for the better
This is the equivalent of asking someone to hold ur muffin, then them giving you a couple crums back as they tell you how it was your fault that you don't have the entire muffin.
I mean, the poor fools who are educated enough to not fall for obvious scams. I used to hate scam artists with passion. And i still hate the ones who prey on the elderly, that's pathetic and scummy. But scammers don't prey on just the average person. They prey on the average idiot. So more power to them.
@@ridiculousrandy1401 So what you're saying is that you scam people as well, right? At least on some level otherwise I don't figure how you could say "more power to scammers" while blaming the victims if you had any level of empathy. That's some special level of "fuck you got mine" you got going on there.
Ice Poseidon launders money. A few years ago he was raided by F B I for this. Now he is laundering his Cx Coin profits on IP2 streams such as OnlyUseMeBlade, Captain Content and Chicken Andy.
his shamelessness here is the part that irritates me the most out of this whole video. you can just hear it in his voice that he legitimately does not care that he is stealing from people and giving them over to poverty for his own gain.
Paul had such a promising career man. His OSRS videos were hilarious and then he just started to go downhill and surrounding himself with douche bags. He really doesn’t understand how good he had/has it
All money loitering aside. Old ice posideon streams was like watching a role playing server in gta. Bro had only npc interactions like any of yall ever seen him get threatened by that one golf coach that claimed to be a mafia member and was gonna kill him. His old streams were something else man
if he's trying to spin it in his mind and is constantly rewording things to make himself feel better, he clearly has some form of remorse. Feels like he listened to that one friends advice of "focus on yourself because in the long run that's all that matters" and decided to get a bag unethically.
I think Ice is one of those people that thinks "I'm a horrible person but if I admit I'm a horrible person that makes me less horrible since I'm being honest". No it doesn't, it makes you worse. Admitting you robbed people doesn't somehow make you less of a crook. if anything it means your decision was premeditated and not done in the heat of passion.
If we’re talking absolute morality then I mostly agree with you. I get where Lightingfarron is coming from though. Ice’s “honesty” is more than just jarringly blunt. When I listen I hear no guilt, no shame, no remorse. Just a completely overwhelming lack of empathy overall. These are common traits of people with antisocial personality disorder (ASPD). AKA Sociopathy/Psychopathy. That’s what makes it so unsettling. PS: not all people with ASPD are crazy manipulative assholes. you mostly just hear about the ones that have gone WAY off the rails.
He definitely does not think that he is a horrible person, nobody ever thinks that about himself. People always find ways to justify things to themselves.
I always wondered what happened to that goffy dude.. never took the time to actually search it, but I would never expected him to do something that low.. smh
Neither IcePoseidon fans or cryptobros are known for their wisdom on their own. I can't imagine a scenario where people who fall under both groups wouldn't fall for this.
Crazy thing is, this guy is still not in jail, and still scamming his fans on a daily basis... i truly feel bad for the idiots who feel the need to donate him money still
Are you sure? He's admitted to multiple other scams in the past, and the police did nothing to him. Do you really think it'd be any different this time?
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He already had the feds on him and got ran out of LA from them and he STILL doing all this. His ego makes him think he’s untouchable until they finally get him
when it's people like this, that are big on the internet, It takes more than one person to take them to court, but with the internet, people with gather and pretty much force the police to take action. it takes more than one person, but i wont be surprised if charlie makes another video in a couple days saying that ice was arrested, since charlie brought more attention to it. Edit: will yall fucking grow up and stop trying to fucking fight with me in replys? I have better things to do than keep replying to you children who dont know how to take an opinion.
I mean the 2 aren't mutually exclusive y'know. You can be both honest and arrogant. And also a complete dumba**, those words describe Ice Poseidon spot on I'd say
@@aminulhussain2277 i mean, have you seen any other huge twitch channels get arrested immediately for anything? No. They still have some influence. They're not above the law, but they still have major influence.
Charlie I love your channel. Ever since middle school. I’m 20 now and still going strong on watching your content. Bring back the real commercials 🔥🔥 plz.
The guy who caused absolute havoc wherever he went when streaming and had one of the most abhorrent communities ever seen in livestreaming history is the last person I'd want to put my money near.
“I could give the money back, but I’m not going to do that” literally if it weren’t for his fans he would be living in a ditch and this is how he treats them smh.
streamers are often entitled like that. all they do is take and receive they become spoiled, expect it, and demand it. for example when streamers do charity streams they get paid for it and the money they are "donating" comes from the viewers, plus the organization that sponsors the "charity" often take a large percentage of the donations for themselves as well. some may say they will match a certain amount donated but they are still profiting from charity.
@@rjacks3284 what you suggested is illegal. Charity is designed to be a selfless act, so if they're getting paid for it, it must be disclosed to the audience.
@@awen4784 I thought someone actually did get caught, which is what the whole "#AD" is. Also when they do get caught for it, they will 100% go to jail for embezzlement. So, report this to the authorities if you want something done about it.
Hope he gets sued to this. However, I see it is a lesson for why you shouldn’t throw money at something with no info. Especially if you can’t bounce back from the loss.
The problem that no one is bringing up is that this isn't US currency we're talking about so the odds of him getting sued and thrown in jail is alot lower compared if he was actually scamming US currency.
@@GrumpyIan he cant get repercussions because crypto is unregulated aside from taxed, therefore you literally can rug pull as much as you please with the only downside being your reputation destroyed
It’s just gambling, but maybe with a bit of technical and social analysis where you can kind of guess where profits can be made. I never put in what I can’t afford to lose. I made a good buck on meme coins once. But I stay away from anything I think is a rug pull, like this one.
@@crispy_retrodude9463 pretty much, and ice is already at a point where his reputation wasn't good AND he's far from his peak of fame / fortune. This doesn't change anyone's opinion of him (most people already view him negatively), he has no legal repercussions, and in a couple weeks he's made a few hundred thousand. I don't like giving credit... But assuming he didn't miss anything (like a loophole that gets him into legal trouble, as it could easily be a felony), he's pretty smart to have cooked this up and gotten away with it.
This is actually shocking, I used to watch Ice quite a lot when he was on twitch, and never followed up with his content. I didn't think someone who was so famous for streaming could immediately turn criminal of scamming people and not care.
All I've seen from him is him kicking a lady off an RV alone in a state she doesn't live, and trying to commit insurance fraud when his friend crashed the RV, live on stream. Not the brightest guy, and definitely some major red flags. Not sure why anyone would get involved with him, financially or otherwise.
This guy got famous off annoyingly closing doors on people in Runescape, and then transitioned over to IRL live streaming while annoyingly bothering strangers for content. Yet people thought it was a good idea to hand him their $ as if he gave a rats ass about them lol. His whole life has been about him shitting on others for content. C'mon now
its literally the streamer viewer parasocial relationship. many viewers can see no wrong when they are fans of someone. streamers can literally scam viewers and viewers will see no wrong because in their eyes they aren't being milked they are just supporting them.
Too many people live with this "Idc aslong as its funny" attitude. These asshole streamers then go fuck with people, get called out and then play the victim. These same people are the reason Nicado exist.
Ice and Dr. Jon of the Heart Attack Grill are like the most honest people I have heard of. They will fully admit to directly harming people and admit that it makes them money from harming these people.
Dr Jon is providing a service where all parties know the risks and are willing to accept the risk. He's not doing anything wrong. Only losers want to whine about that.
Ice Poseidon built his fame by being a clutz. A walking disaster. His fans loved his unpredictability- you never knew what bad decision he would make next. It was like watching Jackass except the main character has no idea what they're doing is dumb or dangerous. Knowing that, I don't sympathize with the people who bought into his con. I can't think of a worse streamer to trust your money with. Do his fans even care that they got scammed? They had to have known this was a possibility right?
nah that actually is the case. the majority of people investing into crypto like this don't know a damn thing about it, or who's running it. they just see buzzwords, remember how they missed out in 2014 and think "now's my chance!!!". people who actually understand it do their research and know who is behind the project, and what the project is for, and they don't invest in shitcoins like this for this exact reason. anyone that DID know better, wouldn't touch this with a 10 foot pole. and that's honestly the worst part of it IMO. the people that got scammed, are just lower to middle class citizens praying this is their chance to get on the bandwagon. but instead of making a few bucks, or striking it big like people did in 2014, they got scammed by a PoS like Paul.
I watched Ice Poseidon since his early Runescape streams. He was a legend in Runescape and he pretty much invented IRL content on Twitch. Sad to see how far he has fallen.
he wasn't a legend. he was a staker streamer that stole thousands from his viewers and RWTed. it's debatable if he even started the trend of vlogging either, people have been doing that on forums for years before he showed up. the only thing he did was live stream it, which most vlog communities know is the dumbest thing you could ever do for reasons like the airport incident.
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thanks for the shoutout and raising awareness. dude admitted to everything on a call so brazenly it was hard to stomach.
hope these scumbags are brought to justice soon.
u trippin he just outplayed them ripbozo😹💯
Agreed
yeah man disgusting
@@brinds7374 that’s a very bad mindset to have. What if everybody was like that? Life would be miserable
Love your vids bro they’re so good
Judge: You scammed thousands of their money, committing countless felonies
Ice: that’s a pretty shitty way of putting it your honor…but yeah
noted
for future "projects"
No felonies committed. He wouldn't of told people he was the one behind the scam if he committed felonies. Didn't even commit a crime.
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@@neilbrons529 Fraud isnt a crime?
@@Nick-kw9oz Farting in public isn't a crime.
Glad he admitted to everything. Made the FTC's job so much easier. Watch him cry when he faces jail time and fines.
He wont though because everything he did was legal.
He did nothing wrong so he can’t be arrested
@@IceBlueLugia oh he did everything wrong but sometimes the law lags behind morality
@@eragonship4929 yeah, pretty much. Nothing legally wrong so he won’t be arrested. It sucks
ftc can't regulate cryptocurrency or nfts.
this is the point of a DAO .
This guy is the definition of "If you ignore the bad things I did, then I didn't do anything bad"
hey
This guy takes "honesty is the best policy" to the max.
Holy shit charlie has so many god damned bots on his channel.
Bots up the ass. UA-cam is really taking their time... or they probably just don't give a fuck, tbh.
@@mattyice2099 do everyone a favor and just report them, it’ll take UA-cam a while to get rid of these desperate bots if there competent about it. but it’ll happen sooner or later.
Bots galore
Bro these bots 💀
Ice "I have reformed my toxic community to a wholesome one"
Also Ice "let me scam $500k out of my reformed community"
These bots are getting out of hand.
youtube has a serious bot problem!!!
It's called being a real one
Shit like this is why he'll never get unbanned.
a toxic community would see through that shit, this guy is on big brain mode
The feds need to swoop in and arrest this dude. Straight up running a Ponzi scheme and admits it live on twitch and he’s still not behind bars?!?! Wtf?!
Not on Twitch
None of the crypto world is regulated yet, feds can’t arrest for things there aren’t laws against. That’s why scammers love nfts.
@@maxwellhanesworth2656 yup.
decentralized for a reason.
@@maxwellhanesworth2656 what u mean that couple that stole 3.3 billion in btc are going to jail for 20 years so yes fed can arrest u
I used to watch his RV streams way back when, his content is quite literally praying on people down on their luck, suffering from mental illness, drug addiction, etc, etc, this shouldn't of been a massive surprise by any means.
I think it's genuinely hilarious how the dude genuinely doesn't give a shit and doesn't even try to sugarcoat it
Trying again?
Pretty much the same strategy as trump, just doesnt give a fuck
Because he as well as other shitty person with a devoted fanbase will always vouch for them no matter what they do. Pretty much teflon dons.
What’s even crazier is people still follow this man somehow they will willing give him money knowing this will happen
When the first comment doesn’t get enough likes
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“Did you steal the money?”
Ice: “Yes.”
“So you are admitting to the felony?”
Ice: “Yes.”
“How do you plead.”
Ice: “Not guilty.”
" understandable , have a great day"
It's not my wallet!
@Owen Polar no
@The TacoCat no
@Nolsa Ninia and no
1:35 it's literally like that one sketch in The Office US where Michael reads off a pyramid scheme to everyone, but blatantly believes otherwise until Jim walks up and draws a pyramid on his board of ideas. Classic.
“Should you be punished for stealing hundreds of thousands of dollars from people?“
Ice: “no.”
This guy is the literal reason "honesty" and "innocence" are different thing
I think he confuses being guilty with feeling guilty
@Kilsa Mayuni keep your onlyporn to yourself
@@nurihan4764 just report them
Like i said, he still never learn from his mistake....
@@blipblop1112 because he’s being rewarded because people keep falling for it, ofc the obvious solution is for authorities to be involved then it’s done for good, but somehow that hasn’t happened.
Props to CoffeeZilla for giving him shit, and not letting him talk his way out of it
He didn't even try to. He basically said "yeah I took all their cash... It ain't a scam tho."
As he does lol
CoffeeZilla, Spencer Cornelia, Tom Nash, man these guys have come a long way. From exposing/ending the careers of fake gurus like Dan Lok, Tai Lopez to exposing legit stupid UA-camrs, I gotta say I’m glad they’re here, these scams have to stop.
Gotta respect the grind tho
Who
I mean can you blame him he's been doing it for years and is super honest about it. I wouldn't be surprised if someone asked him exactly what his next scam was and he just laid it all out for everyone to hear then continued to do exactly that.
Yes. You can.
4:42
This is honestly the hardest hitting part. I am poor as hell, toilet doesn't work, bathroom floor caving in, roof leaks, roof falling in, hot water didn't work for two months, electricity in half my house doesn't work and I know what it's like to live without things that quite honestly I'd love to have. The fact he straight up admits he took the money and feels no regrets despite being RICH and not needing the money is honestly one of the most disheartening things to hear as a fan of Ice Poseidon. This completely changes my view on the guy and I will no longer be supporting him.
Is there a way we could support you to help you repair some of those household necessities?
Sure, dude.
Why the fuck did you watch Paul in 2022?
He fell off years ago
(Not trying to legitimize his actions but i'm still curious)
please don't buy shitcoins then
Buying shitcoin while your house is falling apart isn't really a wise investment to be honest here
@@wiegershitpostcollective Actually true
Why anyone would trust Ice Poseidon with literally *ANYTHING* is beyond me.
He never learn from his mistake
Confidence is powerful, and sociopaths often have the most of it.
@@johnroush1099 thank you fir the words of wisdom, John
Some people just want to believe in dreams while getting their face grinded down in the dirt by a known bully.
Most likely it was all the new fans on UA-cam.
When Ice's stream was dying, all the old fans (who knew him) stopped watching him.
He basically reformed his fan-base, and those new fans fell for this scam because they don't know his past at all.
How to cancel yourself speedrun any%
- announce anything about NFT’s or crypto
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IcePoseidon's RESPONSE
Wow it’s you
Yo its jojoasmr
Oh hey Jojo.
Jojo what are you doing here
He doesnt have a hero complex... He has whats called a "Good Guy Facade". He has a NEED to be seen as a "good guy" and when confronted with the truth, he rejects it. Even though Coffee did a great job making him logically see he rugged the project. The good guy facade is created during our formative years when the person receives constant "praising" with no healthy feedback for wrong actions from parental guidance. As you can see, it creates a twisted reality which can be hugely damaging to the people in their surroundings.
Edit: More info on the good guy facade.
Repairing the Good guy facade is incredibly hard and traumatic. It involves coming to terms with a few fundamental truths... mainly that your parental guardians failed you. Guardians are meant to teach right from wrong, and usually when that fails its because of the twisted realities of those Guardians. Confronting the Good Guy Facade will strain the relationship with them because you essentially have to tell them they were wrong. Most people are terrified to go to that place.. Its filled with fear, sadness and grief. Especially because it often means removing any relationship you have with them (usually the parents) until they go through their own reflection and coming terms with the wrong they did - which may not happen during their lifetime. It takes a huge amount of humility to accept this scenario and to undergo it emotionally feeling the truth of it all. This is why most people choose not to go through it, and instead prefer to deny any wrongdoing at all.
So like cops?
Lol
is this a copy pasta?
@@ThisIsDeth idek, cant believe 35 web geeks liked his comment 😂 he doesnt know what hes talking about he just sounds like he does.
@@ThisIsDeth not defending the streamer either his comments just wrong😂
I remember the time he streamed from his phone Twitch IRL and someone outside jumped off a building committing suicide. People behind him were freaking out and the body landed behind him on a car and he was only worried about Twitch banning his account showing no empathy or care for the person's safety.
In his shitty defense, inaction is a common reaction
Wow I'm shocked that ice, a paragon of virtue and morality, would scam his viewers. That's crazy
this sounds like something critikal would say
Holy fuck these bots
Honestly at this point if the viewers fall for it, it’s on them. This is like getting scammed by a sign that says “scam, pay me 10 bucks and you get nothing” and still handing the 10 dollars over.
@@qeedzhr internet is filled with bots now it’s crazy
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"I don't get it, why is he confessing?"
"He's not confessing. He's bragging"
That’s such a good movie
@@chasedixon1492 what's the movie?
@@yerika071 the big short
@@chasedixon1492 Good movie ruined by WallStreetBets.
Man I love your videos my favorite part is how in videos like These you only react to a portion of the video and then shoutout the creator and let everybody go and support them it’s really wholesome
I hate how he admits what he's done but doesn't get arrested for it
He said he changed and wants everyone to give him another chance. Then showed his true colors. Really put the final nail in his own coffin
He's running away with 300-500K. How much you wanna bet he's gonna blow it on the dumbest shit possible.
@@oooalonsonacho6935 I give him a year, at MOST before it's all gone and he's on the next scam.
@@oooalonsonacho6935 How much you wanna bet he is gonna be hunted down?
@@oooalonsonacho6935 Honestly if you play your cards right you can retire on that money. I think he is set for life.
@@resetedanchorpure you cannot retire w 300k - 500k without being extremely frugal your entire life. i heard he bought a tesla or something, he’s gonna come crawling back soon.
it’s refreshing seeing someone so honest about being a piece of shit
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IcePoseidon's RESPONSE
I wouldn't call it refreshing. Just as bad really.
How is flat out lying about the amount he gave back (40k instead of 155k) or about he can't give the money back (the coin would just drop to zero and the money would be gone) honesty? I don't get why people don't see through these people? It's the same with politicians, ever heard the phrase 'at least he is honestly speaking what he thinks'. Some politicians come to mind! How do people not get that a person that is honest about one thing that others wouldn't say so openly but still lying to their teeth about other things are not more honest, they're in fact less honest. It's a strategy to fool people, nothing more. First you bought his crypto and now you let him fool you again in believing he is honest about anything.
Ice has never really hidden him being a piece of garbage. He was the irl king at one point. Crazy how far he fell. Seems like the first rv trip was yesterday.
Theres too many of those these days because they know no one will do anything.
This drama just feels so scripted. It doesn’t seem like someone would do this on purpose without wanting publicity
he quit streaming
He didn't get caught on purpose, but when he did and realized the exposed videos would come out, he tried his best to save face and explain himself. You see this a lot with psychopathic murderers, they will explain it to try to explain why what they did was correct when in reality they are just sealing their fate of guilty verdict. They care more about their image than protecting themselves legally, morons.
Big brain move, get publicity by running a Ponzi scheme which attracts the feds.
@@chidmi
I just saw him streaming last night. He streams on UA-cam.
So... Are these people gonna sue him? He's openly admitted it
dude's so honest he's like that one guy who's selling heart attack burgers
edit: oh hell nah what happened to the comment section 💀
He should do a collab with him.😆
@@jinx5349 agreed
Well at no point does he hide the fact. He is actively saying his stuff is unhealthy and don't do it. It's like having 7 signs saying cliff at the end of this road, yeah he made the cliff but it's their fault for not reading the signs
@@ethanstyant9704 how do you make a cliff?
@George Sommer it's not my fault the person who made the metaphor had the iq of an infant monkey learning how to steal soda out a vending machine. I was just simply more intelligent and noticed the flaws in said simple minded metaphor.
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Almost at 10m subs. Congrats bro you deserve it, thanks for the great content everyday
Honestly with his history of scamming and stealing and people STILL invested into it... they're idiots. Investing on a bigger level has safeguards and he doesn't and like he said he's been stealing money and screwing over people and people still invested.
How dumb are people?
"How dumb are people?" is the real-world application of "how big is infinity?"
I see you are in support of IcePoseidon?
@@blakecacini8016 Stop living in absolutes... Ice is a dickhead and the people who invested were idiots. Multi-tier processing friend... embrace the future of thought processing.
The fact he can openly admit to everything and will never have to face consequences isnt even surprising anymore.
he didnt do anything wrong, they were dum enough to invest
@@steelmyr1485 ah yes officer, I exploited my fans and convinced them to invest, it's their fault they fell in a scam I knew it was a scam all along.
@@steelmyr1485 Try doing this with a regulated currency, it's actually illegal. Just because it's not illegal, doesn't mean it's not immoral.
@@giannipiccioni8411 there was little convincing
@@arty1813 how is it immoral
Ice Poseidon: "its completely within my power to return the money"
Also Ice Poseidon : "but fuck you its mine."
Ice Poseiden has got that Wall St. mentality.
virgin critcal: OMG did u just take 500k from your fanbase
chad denino: lol yea
@G i s e l l e🍎 damn, too bad i'm not a fan, i don't even know you. so obviously makes zero sense to join your onlyfans
@@muhhtayoo4892 lmaoooo
Holy shit the bots, don't forget to report them.
lol he could've legitly stole his fans money by advertising nfts without taking backlash for a few years til people realize they blew their lifes savings on a tiny picture
Its weird watching him on the side of a road, alone in the dark, speaking candidly about how much he valued his stream shortly before being banned on twitch. To this. I mean he was never perfect but this is just horrible.
I feel bad for anyone that has to represent him in any legal settings. Must be a constant ball of stress worrying about him incriminating himself every minute of every day.
At some point they'd probably give up defending him and switch sides
I'm sure his lawyer wouldn't care if he got arrested
no if anything the would want him to so he has to pay them
Actually from a lawyers perspective this is a dream gig. Potential for a big pay day with a client you couldn't give a sh*" about.
@@Brandon-tk2rw they get payed either way right? Not like lawyers are moral people to begin with.
I imagine him in court like this:
Lawyer: Your honor my client did nothing wrong, it was a mistake
This dude: Your honor is a lie, I did it knowingly and I don't give a fuck
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Sigma dectillionaire grindset
@@youtyiyyutuu104 how are these bots so quick goddamn
@@youtyiyyutuu104 my guy with a simple add-on all I got to do is hover over your link to icescammer to see that it is actually a link to a dead viewless channel and a bad quality trucking game video, after that shit title i had to click, 3 seconds of watching and my shit video allergy went nuts, improve your content or gtfo of here..... edit{grammar AND THE FOLLOWING p.s.} P.S. my bad the channel isn't dead it's almost dead, sorry for the mishap
How is he not in prison. Genuinely
How does people are not in jail who scammed millions?
I just realized that ice poseidon was the guy that got sprayed by a fire extinguisher, at first i was upset that happened to him but now im glad it happened to him
I feel bad for the people that got scammed, they must have some kind of disability to invest in a coin made by Ice
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I don't. I find it hilarious.
If you feel bad for these people who are inherently greedy, you got a problem. These people need to also be held accountable for their actions into trusting such idiocy. It's ridiculous that we let people who are trying to be greedy off the hook.
@@buckbucker8020 I don’t feel sad for the people nor is it really hilarious nothing funny really happened. People just need to realize that investing the only money you have in crypto isn’t a good idea.
The colab I never would’ve imagined. Seeing Coffeezilla and Penguinz0 together. A huge accomplishment.
What's more shocking than the controversy itself, is that this dude has fans to begin with.
No idea what he's doing these days but the guy was one of the pioneers of Twitch, particularly IRL streaming, along with Reckful. His streams back in the day were awesome. Seems like that's all gone and he's gone down a dark road but it doesn't surprise me he still has fans, some people are just loyal.
If 4chan still has users, ice still has fans
I knew one of his fans, a super degenerate
Ice is definitely entertaining.
He used to be one of the most known streamers on Twitch, and he was pretty funny to watch mostly because he was so stupid. He has definitely changed A LOT in the last 5-6 years and not for the better
Maybe it's just me but I absolutely love how Charlie ends his videos. So simple but complex at the same time.
This is the equivalent of asking someone to hold ur muffin, then them giving you a couple crums back as they tell you how it was your fault that you don't have the entire muffin.
“I’m going to take care of myself” my bad I forgot this dude with a beautiful house is struggling more than the poor fools that fell for this scam.
I mean, the poor fools who are educated enough to not fall for obvious scams.
I used to hate scam artists with passion. And i still hate the ones who prey on the elderly, that's pathetic and scummy. But scammers don't prey on just the average person. They prey on the average idiot. So more power to them.
@@ridiculousrandy1401 nice victim blaming of literal kids bro, what a rtarded take
@@ridiculousrandy1401 Except it's pretty common knowledge it's primarily kids that do this cus "MuH fAvOrItE sTrEaMeR SaYz So..."
@@ridiculousrandy1401 So what you're saying is that you scam people as well, right? At least on some level otherwise I don't figure how you could say "more power to scammers" while blaming the victims if you had any level of empathy.
That's some special level of "fuck you got mine" you got going on there.
I couldn’t possibly feel bad for any of the downies that got scammed by ice of all people lmao
Ice Poseidon launders money. A few years ago he was raided by F B I for this. Now he is laundering his Cx Coin profits on IP2 streams such as OnlyUseMeBlade, Captain Content and Chicken Andy.
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Hey dude, human here, thought you needed a comment for those 700 likes.
@@coolshiz7319 yeah whole lotta bots
Vernon owns ice
his shamelessness here is the part that irritates me the most out of this whole video. you can just hear it in his voice that he legitimately does not care that he is stealing from people and giving them over to poverty for his own gain.
The sheer arrogance is almost impressive if he didn't walk away from this virtually no lasting damage. He should be rotting in jail for fraud
These things are magnets to unfortunate people, when you long for hope anything seems like an option.
A RuneScape legend. Took the values of the game to real life.
Read my mind lmao
Legend
He’s an anti-hero
@@thecode9078 nah just a hero, the people he scams use crypto, they're just getting what they deserve :)
@@natalyst trueee
The disturbing thing is, he somehow truly convinced himself that he is the good guy in that scam.
Typical narcissistic behaviour.
@@dalyxia he's definitely a sociopath. The way he explains and delivered his talk, really close to the ASPD traits.
@@aika7974 no doubt
He lives in a world of shadows, he's truly too far gone. 100% delusional.
Meh. Idiots falling for scams gotta learn their lesson.
Paul had such a promising career man. His OSRS videos were hilarious and then he just started to go downhill and surrounding himself with douche bags. He really doesn’t understand how good he had/has it
"And I'm sure as hell, just like a Dhar Mann video, they lived to regret it"😂😂😂😂
All money loitering aside. Old ice posideon streams was like watching a role playing server in gta. Bro had only npc interactions like any of yall ever seen him get threatened by that one golf coach that claimed to be a mafia member and was gonna kill him. His old streams were something else man
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and all the weirdos that used to follow him around doing weird shit for clout lmao
Hi
Lmaoo ice may be a piece of shit but his old streams were fucking amazing
His IRL streams when he went to youtube were fucking legendary man.
Dude said "I took the burden of money from my fans". Dude feels like a superhero
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@@stofficial9315 hi
Same energy as mom taking your money for "safe keeping"
reverse robin hood
Dude deserves the money if people are this stupid tbh.
Isnt this the dude who cried on his livestream about how his fans have gave his life meaning and made it less miserable? What a great guy.
Bro the balls on this dude to just openly admit to financial fraud and just laugh about it. What the hell is happening
if he's trying to spin it in his mind and is constantly rewording things to make himself feel better, he clearly has some form of remorse. Feels like he listened to that one friends advice of "focus on yourself because in the long run that's all that matters" and decided to get a bag unethically.
Dead channel
@@marythomas8170 that’s what happens when you scam a 12 year old
This.
Sadly true
Put all your videos back up chubbs
I think Ice is one of those people that thinks "I'm a horrible person but if I admit I'm a horrible person that makes me less horrible since I'm being honest". No it doesn't, it makes you worse. Admitting you robbed people doesn't somehow make you less of a crook. if anything it means your decision was premeditated and not done in the heat of passion.
It doesn't make you any better or worse to openly admit it. You are already as horrible as you get just by committing the crime in the first place.
It's like people that say "I'm just an asshole" like no bro you go out everyday and choose to be that way
If we’re talking absolute morality then I mostly agree with you. I get where Lightingfarron is coming from though.
Ice’s “honesty” is more than just jarringly blunt. When I listen I hear no guilt, no shame, no remorse. Just a completely overwhelming lack of empathy overall.
These are common traits of people with antisocial personality disorder (ASPD). AKA Sociopathy/Psychopathy.
That’s what makes it so unsettling.
PS: not all people with ASPD are crazy manipulative assholes. you mostly just hear about the ones that have gone WAY off the rails.
Heat of the moment or crime of passion. You cant have it both ways
He definitely does not think that he is a horrible person, nobody ever thinks that about himself. People always find ways to justify things to themselves.
"Did you kill these people?"
"No, I stabbed them until they stopped breathing"
keep miring lolw
It was either the oxygen they were wasting was gonna go to shit or me saving that for myself.
I always wondered what happened to that goffy dude.. never took the time to actually search it, but I would never expected him to do something that low.. smh
It’s great to know Charlie would never do anything like this to us.
If he did he'd have to make a video shaming himself
you sure???
Cant wait for moist coin
Join the dark side, Luke.
holy shit these bots are getting out of hands
Ice has literally said in the past that he would make and rugpull a coin lol, people that bought in should’ve seen it coming
what are these replies bro-
Yep, Coffeezilla, Spencer Cornelia, and Muta proved this on an epic scale(must see)
@@kurtcobainsh3roin new wave of bots on YT
YT doesnt do anything about it, so they must be getting kickbacks
Neither IcePoseidon fans or cryptobros are known for their wisdom on their own.
I can't imagine a scenario where people who fall under both groups wouldn't fall for this.
@No 🔥 no you don’t
Crazy thing is, this guy is still not in jail, and still scamming his fans on a daily basis... i truly feel bad for the idiots who feel the need to donate him money still
the 'damn near illiterate' comment at like 2:31 is amazingly delivered and pulled an inhuman noise out of me.
Whats even more hilarious is, he literally just gave the feds everything they need, hes so screwed
What do you mean
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Are you sure? He's admitted to multiple other scams in the past, and the police did nothing to him. Do you really think it'd be any different this time?
@@ami4705 SEC ain’t no joke
@@DowJonesOracle I don't believe the SEC can do anything here as cryptocurrency doesn't have any protections
ice poseidon is the one kid that admits to the teacher word for word everything that happened when the class gets in trouble
Shut up
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@@deesnutz5228 what's your problem?
@@Kosmid shut up
What’s up checkmark
He already had the feds on him and got ran out of LA from them and he STILL doing all this. His ego makes him think he’s untouchable until they finally get him
oh thats wht he went silent
i remember watching him a long time ago kinda sad to see him dig his career in the ground like this even more
I wouldn’t call it “honest”…
I’d call it arrogance.
All it will take is 1 person to report the crime, and he’s toast
when it's people like this, that are big on the internet, It takes more than one person to take them to court, but with the internet, people with gather and pretty much force the police to take action. it takes more than one person, but i wont be surprised if charlie makes another video in a couple days saying that ice was arrested, since charlie brought more attention to it.
Edit: will yall fucking grow up and stop trying to fucking fight with me in replys? I have better things to do than keep replying to you children who dont know how to take an opinion.
I mean the 2 aren't mutually exclusive y'know. You can be both honest and arrogant. And also a complete dumba**, those words describe Ice Poseidon spot on I'd say
@@yeeterboi69 Having a big twitch channel does not put you above the law.
@@aminulhussain2277 i mean, have you seen any other huge twitch channels get arrested immediately for anything? No. They still have some influence. They're not above the law, but they still have major influence.
@@yeeterboi69 They really don't, that's just the legal system being slow as usual.
To be fair, Ice's "fans" are literally the worst people on Earth.
@@ErwinTheBolocBoloc the fuck bro
Idk maybe one of em,there’s more
I hope he’s lying about having Asperger, people like him make us look bad
His behaviour shows 0 signs of Aspergers. Plus Aspergers has nothing to do with scamming people and thinking its okay
I don't think you understand what " literally " means.
1:12 just literally describing a ponzi scheme, that's hilarious
Charlie I love your channel. Ever since middle school. I’m 20 now and still going strong on watching your content. Bring back the real commercials 🔥🔥 plz.
The guy who caused absolute havoc wherever he went when streaming and had one of the most abhorrent communities ever seen in livestreaming history is the last person I'd want to put my money near.
@Instagram User I wonder if the person who came up with the term caught in "random number" regrets what he has done to the whole world
But his streams were one of the best. You can't deny that.
@@Jacko4765 I was never big on streaming dafuq he do
@@LateBandwagon everything.. he did everything
“I could give the money back, but I’m not going to do that” literally if it weren’t for his fans he would be living in a ditch and this is how he treats them smh.
streamers are often entitled like that.
all they do is take and receive they become spoiled, expect it, and demand it. for example when streamers do charity streams they get paid for it and the money they are "donating" comes from the viewers, plus the organization that sponsors the "charity" often take a large percentage of the donations for themselves as well. some may say they will match a certain amount donated but they are still profiting from charity.
To be fair, anyone who is a fan of a "lovely person" of this magnitude, probably isn't a very nice person.
@@rjacks3284 what you suggested is illegal. Charity is designed to be a selfless act, so if they're getting paid for it, it must be disclosed to the audience.
@@Vanished584 its not illegal when no one know about it duh
@@awen4784 I thought someone actually did get caught, which is what the whole "#AD" is. Also when they do get caught for it, they will 100% go to jail for embezzlement. So, report this to the authorities if you want something done about it.
"Stupid cartoon character" is a rare insult for a grown man. 100% damage.
Your vocabulary and syntax is amazing.
ice fell off so hard
He never fell, he was always a bottom feeding piece of evil dogshit.
@@KIager as someone who used to hang out with him and his friends on discord as a teen, trust me, hes just absolute trash.
He was always a bottom dweller scrounging up views by any means necessary. About time this happened.
@@IndexJocker I always thought he was, I never understood what people found so appealing/entertaining when he was a popular streamer.
So fuckin hard.
Hope he gets sued to this. However, I see it is a lesson for why you shouldn’t throw money at something with no info. Especially if you can’t bounce back from the loss.
The problem that no one is bringing up is that this isn't US currency we're talking about so the odds of him getting sued and thrown in jail is alot lower compared if he was actually scamming US currency.
@@GrumpyIan he cant get repercussions because crypto is unregulated aside from taxed, therefore you literally can rug pull as much as you please with the only downside being your reputation destroyed
It’s just gambling, but maybe with a bit of technical and social analysis where you can kind of guess where profits can be made. I never put in what I can’t afford to lose. I made a good buck on meme coins once. But I stay away from anything I think is a rug pull, like this one.
@@MelloProto it's pretty much gambling with a mask, not to mention the highly obvious risk or scams
@@crispy_retrodude9463 pretty much, and ice is already at a point where his reputation wasn't good AND he's far from his peak of fame / fortune. This doesn't change anyone's opinion of him (most people already view him negatively), he has no legal repercussions, and in a couple weeks he's made a few hundred thousand. I don't like giving credit... But assuming he didn't miss anything (like a loophole that gets him into legal trouble, as it could easily be a felony), he's pretty smart to have cooked this up and gotten away with it.
I can hold in laughter most of the time. But it's when Charlie pulls out the sarcasm that I burst out laughing
“But somehow he DOES” 😆 the delivery was so funny.
It's Amazing how he LITERALLY Confronted His OWN self.
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tempted to make a persona reference
then got mad
@HANAI⭕️ NICE
He has built such a bad reputation for himself that I almost feel like the people who got scammed by him deserved it.
People who invest in this 100% scam stuff 100% deserve it losing their money
i mean, it's their fault for not researching what they were investing in, but i wouldnt say they deserved it
@@qpol if you don’t research something like this when you plan on putting your money into it then you need to learn the hard way
@@skibba_ Even if they didnt know they didnt deserve to be scammed.
They do. But what sucks is that Ice poseidon doesn't deserve the money.
when you mentioned ice posidon at the start i genuinely laughed out loud
4:37 LMFAO - Could you not pitch the reality of what I've done to me, doesn't sound good.
Ice Poseidon is l a u n d e r i n g his Cx Coin money into Text To Speech donations on OnlyUseMeBlade, Captain Content and Chicken Andy.
Make sense
This is actually shocking, I used to watch Ice quite a lot when he was on twitch, and never followed up with his content.
I didn't think someone who was so famous for streaming could immediately turn criminal of scamming people and not care.
Sounds like he's been one all along.
Its not that uncommon, phantoml0rd and tmartn are 2 of the more famous examples.
Ice poseidon has been a piece of trash from the get go. This isn't new.
@@SirWeggington no
Are... are you sure you used to watch him?
Him giving back 40k$ was the equivalent of your homie keeping the controller he borrowed for an extra week and giving it back with stick drift
All I've seen from him is him kicking a lady off an RV alone in a state she doesn't live, and trying to commit insurance fraud when his friend crashed the RV, live on stream. Not the brightest guy, and definitely some major red flags. Not sure why anyone would get involved with him, financially or otherwise.
This guy got famous off annoyingly closing doors on people in Runescape, and then transitioned over to IRL live streaming while annoyingly bothering strangers for content. Yet people thought it was a good idea to hand him their $ as if he gave a rats ass about them lol. His whole life has been about him shitting on others for content. C'mon now
its literally the streamer viewer parasocial relationship. many viewers can see no wrong when they are fans of someone. streamers can literally scam viewers and viewers will see no wrong because in their eyes they aren't being milked they are just supporting them.
Omfg THATS WHY HE SOUNDED FAMILIAR!! RuneScape! Oh my goodness.
tho a loop
Too many people live with this "Idc aslong as its funny" attitude. These asshole streamers then go fuck with people, get called out and then play the victim. These same people are the reason Nicado exist.
@Derone Cerrone Temple OS
"Poop-ass Dog Pussy Coin" 4:07
*write that down WRITE THAT DOWN
Ice Poseidon is big again in live streaming.
Nobody really cares about these scammers getting exposed.
It's like crowdfunding, except you get funny digital coins out of it.
Why do people still fall for this 😭
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what the actual fuck?
The comment is full of self promos
@@kdaagr8 it’s crazy 😂
Ice and Dr. Jon of the Heart Attack Grill are like the most honest people I have heard of. They will fully admit to directly harming people and admit that it makes them money from harming these people.
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@Animationeer why should they be ashamed of hurtin idiots?
Dont compare Dr. Jon to this crook, at least he's giving the people what they paid for at the end of the day.
Dr Jon is providing a service where all parties know the risks and are willing to accept the risk. He's not doing anything wrong. Only losers want to whine about that.
i heard the first word of the video and immediately knew all the necessary information
This guy is why I always say "Btw DON'T take that the wrong way" after giving advice
Ice Poseidon built his fame by being a clutz. A walking disaster. His fans loved his unpredictability- you never knew what bad decision he would make next. It was like watching Jackass except the main character has no idea what they're doing is dumb or dangerous. Knowing that, I don't sympathize with the people who bought into his con. I can't think of a worse streamer to trust your money with. Do his fans even care that they got scammed? They had to have known this was a possibility right?
Imagine getting scammed by a degenerate 70 IQ streamer.
nah that actually is the case. the majority of people investing into crypto like this don't know a damn thing about it, or who's running it. they just see buzzwords, remember how they missed out in 2014 and think "now's my chance!!!". people who actually understand it do their research and know who is behind the project, and what the project is for, and they don't invest in shitcoins like this for this exact reason. anyone that DID know better, wouldn't touch this with a 10 foot pole. and that's honestly the worst part of it IMO. the people that got scammed, are just lower to middle class citizens praying this is their chance to get on the bandwagon. but instead of making a few bucks, or striking it big like people did in 2014, they got scammed by a PoS like Paul.
@@user-ox5ir2rd6g that iq score seems a little high.
they were probably kids who got ahold of their parents credit card
@@user-ox5ir2rd6g Wingsofredemption has 62 IQ and people are still donating to him.
I watched Ice Poseidon since his early Runescape streams. He was a legend in Runescape and he pretty much invented IRL content on Twitch. Sad to see how far he has fallen.
Truth
Don't be an idiot and click one of those "ice poseidon response" videos
Same. Everything went to shit after he went to LA
@@MileyCyrusSwollenGums instead report them for spam.
he wasn't a legend. he was a staker streamer that stole thousands from his viewers and RWTed. it's debatable if he even started the trend of vlogging either, people have been doing that on forums for years before he showed up. the only thing he did was live stream it, which most vlog communities know is the dumbest thing you could ever do for reasons like the airport incident.
>describes ponzi scheme
"oh THATS what that is?"
Explains a Ponzi scheme
Nobody:
Iceposiden: "It's not a Ponzi or pyramid scheme"