An outer's take on post-Brexit Britain: Daniel Hannan - BBC Newsnight
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- Опубліковано 14 жов 2024
- Daniel Hannan takes a trip to a future where the UK has left the EU and explains why he thinks we would all be better off. For an in-er's take see here: • An imaginary post-Brex...
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This is honeslty hilarious. Has there ever been a set of predictions that have been proven so comprehensively wrong so quickly? A masterpiece in delusion.
this guy has always been a fucking tool. how he still has supporters is just shocking to me....and i'm not even a socialist. i just know when a guy in a fancy suit is full of shit
Not a prediction. Just propaganda.
Aged like fine trout left under a radiator in a primary school covered in RAC concrete over the summer holidays.
How on earth was propaganda like this produced and disseminated by Newsnight? Was there a counterpoint to this nonsense? The depressing hindsight is strong with this one...
How does one fire someone from the House of Lords? Asking for a friend….
Aged like milk mixed with fucking lemon juice.
This hasn't aged well, or should I say his ideas have "developed" since then.
5 years later: Food shortages due to Brexit.
Absolute twaddle.
XD no there are no food shortages bud where on earth you living for that to even be an issues i think what you are getting at is benefit scum want more while still being able to buy their drugs or drink and i grew up in a estate so i know im right
Yeah it’s not like there was a pandemic or a war in Europe’s breadbasket or anything like that….
Unlike Paddington Bear, he should have stayed in Peru.
Now he is immune from accountability and election - by sitting in the house of Lords
See the photo of him reading a newspaper in the EU Parliament.
Wow that hasn't aged well. He had no idea what was coming .
Oh he did. He's just a shameless liar.
Membership contributions !
Always " membership contributions " !
NEVER. A mention of what these membership contributions were FOR ?
TRADE BENEFITS !
TRADE BENEFITS !
TRADE BENEFITS !
Which were VASTLY more valuable than the contributions, as we are discovering now we have binned them !
Oh Dan! You forgot to mention all that stuff about taking away laws on workers rights, building regulations and harmful chemicals. He probably just forgot to put it in his notes the silly billy!
That's a bunch of garbage. Government doesn't actually get you any of that reliably and it has massive drains on an economy when you try to give it those powers.
Brexit means Blank Cheque. Broken Britain? The Tories Brex it.
It must be difficult to be 100% wrong on every single aspect but by Jove he managed it.
Odd how he goes on about our MEPs having their noses in the trough when the whole reason for Brexit was Tories with their noses in the trough.
As many have already mentioned, this has not aged well.
Whenever I feel sad or blue I put this on and laugh myself back to health. I am not happy that the UK is shagged, but I am rolling in 24-carat Schadenfreude looking at that vainglorious face babbling its multiple delusions with such assurance. Oh Dan, you are the perfect laughing stock. Thank you.
£20bn subscription fee looks to be an absolute bargain now......! is this the same Lord Hannan who now sits in an unelected position within the House of Lords - hypocrite...
wel,l talk about getting it wrong - I'd be laughing out loud if it wasn't so tragic
so now the EU is about to go back on decades of clean energy and suffer a monumental gas crisis causing prices to balloon out of proportion do you see it as so tragic XD
This not a parody right?
Those comments about farming are looking a little dated after they were thrown under the red bus for a trade deal with Australia.
The comments about financial services are looking dodgy now that trillions of investments have shifted to the EU.
Democracy? Lol. Ask Frosty the slowman about unelected beaurocrats.
It may have been partially true had we remained in the customs union. Someone should rerun this in front of him and ask him....
Literally wrong on every single point. This guy needs to be put in prison for the massive fraud he helped perpetrate.
This has aged about as well as Cameron's promise to 'pay down Labour's excessive debt'. I'd leave this crumbling idiocracy for the continent if brexit didn't make that impossible, now brexwits will have to put up with me moaning. Probably easier since they already have their fingers in their ears.
An utter charlatan
I always imagine Daniel Hannan to walk like Jar Jar Binks...
"energy bills are lower"? Makes it all worth while lol
pro leave coverage from the BBC? am i tripping?
Oh, Danny Boy, this film and prophesy hasn't worked out quite the way you promised. Still, you are OK, with your anonymous funding and little backroom deals with the ERG and now you have your Ermine clad backside into the unelected House of Lords. You must be so glad to have actually become an unelected bureaucrat.
He'll probably use his position in the Lords to get this taken down one day. Because obviously it shows him up for what he is.
alexa what does delusion look like
what a plank, hows it all going in sunny uplands Mr Hannan?
Wow this didn't age well
The EU hasn't shrunk in proportion because it stagnated, it shrunk as a proportion because the rest of the world is rapidly accelerating.
Just one of several bad arguments that are easily refuted that are put forward in this video.
1. The EEC is NOT growing.
2. How does a developing world mean other parts do not benefit?
He doesn't talk about proportions, sure if you examine it that way then you're right, but you'd be foolish to examine it that way.
Steve
The EEC stagnated during the recent recession. But to say that this is a feature of the EU (stagnation) is dishonest. The EU has had solid growth for many years and the growth of highly developed members like France is inevitably lower due to the structure of the economy. You don't want super rapid growth like China.
For developing countries, having very fast growth is good. So that's led to developing countries becoming much more relevant on the world economic stage.
This is why the EU has shrunk as a proportion of the world economy. Not because of the EU's policies.
If you want to talk about stagnation in the EU recently, that's a different thing altogether. Plus, not all members function the same way. Eastern Europe has had relatively high growth for quite a long time.
The UK isn't growing either. The economy is stagnating. When the economy does grow it's down to population growth, mostly from eastern Europe. Take the migrants out of the numbers and the UK is in a recession.
I don't think you really thought that comment through.
Growth itself should be measured proportionate to surrounding companies. If we decrease in size, then our ecnomy has stagnated as it has not grown sufficiently as to maintain its market position.
The delusion is strong with this one
Wow! Literally and i mean LITERALLY everything he said has been the opposite. Deluded.
This so needs a laugh track laid over it. Absolute bilge…
Interesting graphic of the globe showing exports from London that ignore the UK's 4th biggest market within the EU and it's 5th largest export market after the US, Germany, France and the Netherlands.
You mean Ireland? It does but its hard to spot, admittedly. For some reason it appears toward the end of the graphic.
He thinks we will remain in the single market.. This is the issue.. everybody had different visions of brexit.
The Common market and Single Market are different things. Common is the free movement but single market is the rule and regulations on the free movement.
The anti Nostradamus has spoken.
Exports have fallen off a cliff !
Johnson has sidelined and silenced parliament !
No mention of that ?
And an unelected beaurocrat in charge of brexshit...
this is delusional beyond belief
Chris Earle or not!
Mmmm... This hasn't aged very well. The irony is that it took Brexit for the UK to become like other European countries but an even worse version: In decline and ravaged by strikes!
Interesting to revisit this a year later, when Dan Hannan's Panglossian claims have been reduced to merely refuting the potential for unbridled disaster. Funny how he didn't mention the UK will still have to obey many EU regulations and directives if it wishes to continue to trade freely with the EU. Funny how he didn't mention the UK will likely face a divorce bill and continuing contribution to the EU budget, as opposed to an "independence dividend". Funny how some of the supposedly natural Commonwealth trading partners have rebuffed British overtures for a free trade deal, as they're currently engaged with the EU or want free movement of people. Funny how the EU and eurozone are now growing more strongly than the U.K., under revitalised political leadership.
Funny how this comment is looking more unlikely aswell..
A ha ha ha. This aged like milk!
Rule Britannia😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
It's 2021 and listening to this Amateur is Not even funny.
"Fuel prices Go down.
Fishermen will benefit
Taxes will be lower"
Is he sorry for his lies ?
Lol
Hilarious! Fantastic satire
This did not age well Danny Boy.
So... arghh... Damn not of this came true.
He might need to rethink this one.
The only thing that will boom post brexit is the rich those less well off will suffer,to believe otherwise is delusional.
Yep. That's exactly what has happened.
He is such a mixed-up Tory.
He is clearly an old-fashioned free-trading 'liberal', like the good Doctor Fox, who seems to have disappeared from our screens, by the way, since 'the easiest trade agreement' in history proved to be rather more challenging than he so (over)confidently suggested it would be.
The great new Tory leader has now about-faced from from free-trading liberalism towards a Disraelian one-nation conservatism. This is realistic since the leave issue has allowed the north and the Midlands to rediscover themselves as powerful forces in British politics, after years of side-lining by people like - er - Mr Hannan and his fellow members of the south-eastern networks of power.
It was these people that he really wanted to give 'control' back to. Northern working-class people were meant to be just the facilitators of this.
Ironically, leaving might thus propel us into a less bright and productive future than Mr Hannan blithely prophesied. Or was this just propaganda? His faction may have won the leave battle, but they may have lost the political war about the general direction of the UK in the future. British lack of productivity is a largely home-grown thing, and is due to ingrained cultures in both the public and private sectors. Leaving the EU is likely to have little effect on this.
What was actually needed was a revolution in the way the country was organised at every level, economically, socially, politically and culturally. Essentially, the centre=preiphery model needed to give way to a highly networked country with lots of nodes, not just London. This would really revolutionise productivity and start getting rid of regional inequalities etc.
Daniel Hannan, I come in peace to your world. Take me to your dealer, I want a lot of whatever insano drugs you're on.
'Britain leads the world in education': just one among a list of assumptions, kicks this off.... Do we really know that? How many realise that our universities, for example, are so underfunded by our mercantilist approach to everything, that they often accept a low pass in IELTS (English entrance tests) from foreign students with money to throw around because they need the cash so badly? How many realise that the amount of contact time that students get at our universities, and the number of lectures given, are diminishing shamefully compared with many European universities, in order to save money? Or could it be that guys like this rest on their laurels and past glories. Questions need asking.
It is underfunded. I studied for 6 years in higher education in the 1970s, and never paid a penny for it. There was also a govt. grant to cover the costs of living, rent, etc. Margaret Thatcher introduced the fee-paying system and each P. Minister since increased it.
Yes, I have to agree. I'm not sure where it's going. It's one reason why Scotland has looked for further independence from the govt. in Westminster. It will be interesting to see how well B.Sanders does in the U.S. election, even if he doesn't win, because there's a groundswell of public opinion there on the same issue. The U.K. govt. (especially Conservatives), tends to be influenced by what happens in the U.S.
these opinions are just simply unworthy of an educated man
So for DH, Brexit meant just being in the customs union? I thought leave means leave.
Don't mention the tomato shortage.
Why aren't things cheaper in Switzerland and Norway then? They aren't in the EU and using his argument things should be cheaper in these countries than the EU.
That's also why London is the most expensive city in Europe, because the EU forced their high prices upon us. Lol :)) Seriously, life in Germany, who is considered fucked by other commentators, is significantly cheaper than in the UK. Why is that?
Radu Miron
I would imagine it is because London is the banking capital of Europe and allot of very wealthy people live and work there. Plus successive governments since Margret Thatcher haven't had a housing policy they have left house building to the market and not built social housing this reduced the supply of housing and has pushed up the cost of housing and rents. They have also privatized the public transport which has been sold off to nationalized public transport systems in countries like Germany who have put up prices to make a profit so public transport in London isn't run as a service but as a business to make money unlike public transport systems in other capitals where the government gives them substantial financial support.
@@radoomiron93 Propably because Germany is in the very heart of the EU transport network. Its very cheap to get stuff there. Don´t think it will be the case for Brexit Britain. It has to setup his own transport network outside EU. Getting any stuff from outside UK will be kind of hassle - import declaration necessary for everything - even with FTA. With FTA you just don´t need to pay much or any tariffs. Thats why it is expensive in Switzerland and Norway. They do have FTA with EU - no tariffs apply on most products. But still you need to do Origin checks, export declaration etc. Most of the stuff coming into UK from outside comes from or through EU - port of Rotterdam for instance. British ports don´t have the capacity yet to get everything in.
watch out for low-flying pigs!
did he say Hoxton was the silicon valley of the UK? Hoxton?
All he has done is point out how successful the UK has become since being part of EU, We was begging to join in 70's because our economy was stagnant, Since then we have become a successful country which this idiot has just pointed out.
well currently the UK is much better positioned to weather an economic crisis then the EU due to the conflict in Ukraine and the ballooning prices there. while prices have gone up here its nowhere near on the same level as the EUs.
so looks like were seeing a major benefit to Brexit right now oh and we still have the most powerful armed forces in europe something that shouldn't be possible if we was doing so badly,,,,,,,,
You see? He argues only for hard brexit....
He'd say it's a price worth paying, for a price.
Three words: House of Lords.
Five words: Parliament Acts 1911 and 1949.
Forgot this so soon?
www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/tax-credit-cuts-delayed-by-house-of-lords-hollis-amendment-osborne-a6709846.html
And while we're at it, I think this is the guiding constitutional convention, since well, you haven't gotten 'round to that written constitution... yet. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salisbury_Convention
Sometimes late at night, I imagine Lord Andrew Llloyd Weber getting aboard his chartered plane in New York to vote to cut tax credits from his unelected seat in the Lords. For BoJo, Farage, Gove et al to lecture Europe about 'democracy' is really funny and quaint when you think about it.. much like British democracy itself.
Shhh, you can't all of them. They're a secret because Britain's a 'democracy' like that.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_prerogative_in_the_United_Kingdom
THANK GOD WE ARE LEAVING
EU
Turned out to be a pack of lies.
Remain did try to warn the delusional muppets but no! Now look at the bloody mess we are in. Thanks 🙄
My lord this is already looking stupid, just think how it will look in a few years time
Speaking from the future. Not good.
@@lucius1976 not getting any better
Confirmed 😞
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 UK the land of morons!
Oh boy !
Now we're screwed !
jam tomorrow ! right !
Daniel Hannam, pure genius.
He is a delusional fuckwit. He think CANZUK is a thing.
If you consider idiocy genius
If you mean, can string together a sentence and articulate his argument competently then, yes.
If you mean, isn't absololutely full of dumb ideology, lies and bullsh1t, then you are mistaken.
Gotta get out of this banking cartel prison
So we CAN manage on our own. We ARE good enough. In fact we are just about the best in the world. Do not let the propaganda and scare stories put you off. We with courage and decency will win our country back from the tentacles of this European octopus!
Turns out delusional flag-shagging bollox is no good for serious politics.
Pack of vacuous platitudes and lies do not replace good work.
All Brexit ever did was cut it's nose off to spite it's face.
Who is this man ? Most of this is propaganda 😂😂😂
Once upon a time in a land far away, or 1999 as it was, I worked for a company based in Bracknell. The CEO, who was one of the companies founders, was Hannan’s soon to be father in law. I can still remember with great clarity when said CEO marched into the room where the tech folks sat and instructed us to “vote for Dan”. Needless to say that after a small amount of research I couldn’t rationalise a way in which I could vote for this privileged , dangerous man. Imagine a radio of a bygone era, Hannan would be past the extremes of the right hand side of the dial by a country mile.
Does anybody seriously believe this?
Yeah Daniel Hannan is fucking awesome! :)
Sure, it's true...
+Arvid Falk well it's not 'true' it's entirely hypothetical. Doesn't mean it won't happen, but it's hardly likely to the utopia he describes
It's not utopia and it won't be perfect. Perfection is not of this world. But the facts he listed are true in the sense that it used to be like that and now it's gonna be like that once again. There are no great assertions in there, don't you think?
yes
Our fishing grounds a great renewable resource...well they be would be if the rest of Europe wasn't plundering them.
They have been decimated for a century. The only dummies who think that will magically change post-Brexit have been proven wrong.
The fishermen showed what unregulated greed and environmental ignorance will do. Many still live in denial.
Dan is such a good Briton, a true patriot.
Total moron. What came true of that vision? Nada, nil.
a TrUe PaTrIoT
Fantastic, as ever, Mr Hannan!!
OUT OUT OUT
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Wow! He was literally wrong about everything. Wonder what he'd say about it now?
Hannan, Nutall, Farage, Johnson would all make great new post EU members of parliament. There are so many level headed people to choose from. There are thousands of small and medium businessmen that have the character and common sense we need to run a country politician-free so we never have to create the violent, unstable, politically correct society that the labour and conservative parties have taken forty long years to cultivate.
That's looking a bit dated.... An insanely optimistic fool, a liar, a serial liar who is responsible for the deaths of over 150,000 people. I hope you're happy with that judgement. Thousands of small businessmen (in the fishing industry, transport and logistics, farming, hospitality) who will need something to do when their businesses go under.
Well this aged well! Care to comment?
Wuz up stupid😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
he is spot on
Spot on for stepping into dog poo?
How exactly?
have you forgotten to take your meds today ? or have you taken too much ? either way, it's showing. ;-)
He's wrong about every single point.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 gj morons
Hahahahahahahaha
Clear as always. Simply expressed. These are the type of voices people should here on the airwaves target than the constant media stir-up celebrities never-endingly brought to the TV screens.
Clear, lucid - and completly ignorant, thick as pigshit and wrong on every single count. Face it - Hannan was a snake-oil salesman, a cretin who knew nothing, and has been proven so. You fell for a classic example of Dunning-Kruger.
So how's it going now?
what a load of utter bllox.. every word a lie - you've destroyed this country - idjits, the lot of you.
You must realise that Peruvian born Hannan was lying, right?
Fully agree Stuart. Heh. You big wally.
Much love from the U.S. Been a Hannan fan since 2008.
Shame we didn't just deport him to Delaware or some other dodgy neo-liberal cannibal campsite. Every single thing he lied about here has proven wrong. He should be in prison, but now he's an unelected beaurocrat himself.
The hypocrisy is total.
Ar Swipe
The only tory I actually like 😂
What you like in particular? His total failure to predict the future?
Hi John Trollinger
I would really recommend his book 'Why Vote Leave' for anybody still undecided. A very well reasoned and intellectual argument.
Batshit in retrospect
@@lucius1976 You're wrong, it was batshit at the time.
Shame it proved to be entirely lies.
Yp stupid! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Haha!
Germany > England
Well spoken at last ,.
A pack of lies well spoken is still a pack of lies. I guess that explains why your lot still love Boris and Jake Mogg so much.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Awesome video still
In a sarcastic sense.
lucius1976 no
@@BossySwan Right, some fairy tales can be awesome
lucius1976 Is that like the fairytale of Eurozone growth?
@@BossySwan Yes, all fairy tales. One more then the other
If you vote to stay you are a modern day Lord Haw-Haw. I cant wait to vote leave.
You posted that comment five years ago. Do you still see remainers at traitors?
Like the pied piper with you all following allong charmed.
Absolutely every point in this has proven to be a lie and he now sits as a rich, unelected, unaccountable beaurocrat in the lord's as we have a total disaster and our second unelected PM in a row, and active voter surpression from government.
It great to get such a optimistic view of this country and not just scaremongering that we could not cope outside the EU.
ha ha ha ha ha ha project fear is now project here love #wewerewarned
So how's that optimism now
Shame it was completely based on bollox! You where warned, but bought these lies.
Wuz up bozo! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Downvoted for music choice
The leave option needs to be viewed with optimism and seen as an opportunity.
It's a massive opportunity. Canada and Australia have been very successful on their own. So can Britain.
agreed time for a change. If the EU was working we won't be having to make a hard decision.
How is it working out for you? Didn't believe enough?
You mean like suicide or masochism?
@@sureduck still have a high GDP still have the strongest armed forces in europe still working with the EU in some areas and were currently much better off due to the gas crisis about to hit the EU something we wont have to worry about as we are no longer part of said EU XD so yeah working out pretty well
LOL