Why not make the investment in a cheap shrinker/stretcher tool? I used to cut my panels in the corners like you do, but the stretcher tool was absolutely one of my better investments !
@@classiccarszone3769 Hi, sorry for late reply. I bought this: www.hbm-machines.com/producten/plaatbewerking/strek-en-stuikmachines/hbm-ss-12-strek-en-stuik-machine for around € 100. Not the best quality and surely not professional. But hey, neither am I :) I guess they come in many varieties (manual, kick-version etc) and prices. They do damage the surface of the sheet a bit, but I still prefer using this tool. everybody is free to make his own choice
Great repair, even if “pros” or “experts” say you should have done it another way, it’s info that people like me use to plan our repair. So never stop spreading knowledge pal!
Not necessarily industry standard for auto restoration but a hell of alot better then stuff was done in the past and will last a long time. There is more then one way to skin a cat. This is one of them. For a car that Im putting together or a budget build, this is a great option. I dont have the skills or tools to make a form fitting patch from scratch.
i think that everyone is different and what you do is what works best for you in different situations so those who like to knit pick, he fixed very nicely and once he puts some body filler over it, it’s fine! i mean with so many not even doing metal work, but with prices being so high for parts, i think we all should start trying to fix what we have🤷🏿♂️
Nice work, Yes you can spend a fortune to buy the whole door in reproduction or buy thousands of dollars in tools to make the contours and bends in the patch panel. I get sick and tired of seeing all of this rich boy crap on UA-cam where all of this is done. You, though, do it like most of us on a budget will have to do. I finally found a UA-cam channel that shows us how to make these difficult shapes and how to install them. Good job, you've earned a new subscriber. I've got a rusty 67 fastback just waiting for this kind of work and you've shown me your methods of repair, thanks.
yea not everybody wants to spend all their life building a car some guys like me want to drive them. That repair will be there for at least my lifetime too. I dont care to build a car for the next 3 generations either like some guys and their repairs probably wont last much longer than mine but it makes them feel better. Ha ha
You said it as i was thinking it. Oh my gosh!, you're not going to be able to fix that brother. Thanks for the info on the type of metal you're using for your patch panels. Quality work and insight into to how and why. I love it!
car looks really nice now and chuck is driving it instead of waiting for more money and time to do a perfect metal finish repair. These guys wasting their years doing that for someone to stuff it again are crazy.
just another way to do the project. some guys want to make a one piece metal panel with many man hours and sand bags stretcher shrinker and still come out with the same results. which is car done and looking good. How you get there is your choice
That looks almost identical to the rust repair I had to do on my 72 mustang coupe driver side door. I ended up piecing it with like 4 pieces and curved it using the existing metal and grinded the curves in, it turned out pretty good other than a couple of dings I made with the body hammers and forgot about. My car’s trunk pan, all floor pans, and shock tower corners as well as the frame box where the floor light switch is had huge rust holes in them that I had to fix. The door was definitely very intimidating at first though I agree with that.
Myself facing a similar complex corner repair is very encurraged, that instead of metal forming and fabrication, I can simply cut up an old washing machine in little pieces an patchwork my corner together. For this to pass inspection though, all the welds have to be ground, so using a few more grinding discs, but still, makes the whole ordeal manageble.
Good video! After about 15 years of doing paint and body work, I am finally learning how to weld. I just welded my first patch panels on a 1980 Impala Coupe. I had to use my own methods to make it work, which included securing the patch panels down with self tapping metal screws and also rivets. The self tapping screws did not work without me drilling a small hole to get them started. But this allowed me to secure the panels flush to the car before I hit it with the tack weld. I'm also experimenting with using my Unispotter to do track welds on small panels that can be accessed with that heavy tool. One other thing, I'm looking for that rust product you used in the project.
I've done this too with the spray converter. Only one mistake I learned the hard way, it only reforms the surface rust. But there is still rust beneath and it will eat away the panel. So you will be replacing or welding again after 2 years. The inside rust is too heavy :(
Good job. There's different degrees of fixing. This is fine for 90% of the jobs. However, if you were restoring a Silver Shadow, it would be crap. Anyway, I would have liked to see it with a coat of paint. That would have shut up a lot of the naysayers. Thanks for posting.
Yeah thanks for that this is for normal people not these Uber perfect restauration that are trailer queens and sit in the garage for ever a very unhappy car in my opinion
This is really cool. I am working on rust repair on a little Chevy Tracker and trying to use metal as much as I can manage. Your technique is encouraging, as everyone else said below when you watch stuff like the Eastwood videos you’ left feeling like you could never afford to do your own body work. I hope to work up to a more valuable project than my Tracker, but the things a place to start. Thanks for the video!
for all the haters here is a video of the car all done. I also have others search the channel ones with the doors and hood open. too. all pretty damn nice. ua-cam.com/video/oCVpx4m6ieg/v-deo.html
I guess this is gOOd if you don't have many tools,but I would bend a 90 and use a shrinker stretcher to form the shapes I need.Good luck doing the rest of the car,I'd really love to see the whole car.
This is not a bad repair but it'll still rust around your patch in the future which I guess won't be your problem. Look at Fitzee's Fabrications for a better method of making repair panels and patching. Also shot/soda blast the rust inside sections and apply zinc primer before closing and cavity wax after painting is a must.
The only potential issue I see is that the interior part of the door shell has an embossed pattern in the metal that’s impossible to match, I guess if these stories are really rusty reproductions might be the best solution.
Ever consider a metal stretcher/shrinker to make your radius vice pie cuts? Takes some trial and error to learn but after you do it you can make parts nice.
thanks with all the haters on this OMG maybe they never do anything unless they do it right what ever that is. So it is the perfect excuse never to do anything. If you see the car all one there is no signs of the repair and it will outlast the owner for sure.
Thanks for this! I have a similar sitch going on on my double cab doors.... I really really really don't want to just throw money at it and buy new doors. This is a great breakdown of the job.
Hey I gotta say it looks great just keep taking your time an keep doing the good work it's 10x better then what it looked like just make her smooth an nice round edges an then take a 3000grip paper to her an baby it out an then your primer an what not a few times an sand it good a few times as well then your paint of course
Good job anyone putting there work out there and themselves on the line deserves a pat on the back keep up the good work.I am a first time doing this so far trying to learn how to weld or All input is good input.
lots of different ways to fix that panel. this just gives people more ideas on how to fix theirs. Some people think you need to butt weld in a perfect piece and that is not always reality. you can do work like this and end up with a great result. check out the link on the car after
Gotta remember it’s hard to do a nice job on that complex shape plus the old material he had to work with. The original was stamped on a hydraulic press.
It hurts my spleen when I find old repair work like this on a project. I have to cut all that crap out and do it correctly with no factory bends or lines for a reference. Something it's so bad the panel isn't worth saving anymore.
We have a 36 chevy that we had soda blasted and primed it has holes everywhere going to be a lot of this work on that one. Done and liked you know the drill. Thanks
I think there are water drain channels under the door... If you weld it till its closed water cannot drain, so it will sit there if I am correct? This will cause it to rust, correct me if I am wrong
Mudar para português hello my name is Fabrizio I am restorer of old cars Free Lancer here from Brazil and I accompany your channel, I dream of working in the USA, is the market good in this area?
Tip use Prep & Etch to kill rust... People have different ideas but it is the base of all those "Rust Dissolver" Products are. Hope the Car turns out ok... Just a tip, run some practice beads till you get better...
everything that is manufactured by steel will rust, even new cars not surprising you just do what you can and the body shops will rip you off for sure.
Th as te the way we did it when I was a boy when I w ax s 10 years old I would and paint the car thank to my father how many old fashioned cars we did and more newer cars also
You are correct sir I have used that kind i didn’t care for the results my self . I use a garden sprayer and flood the panels where they meet then use epoxy primer but to each their own.keep restoring those oldies they don’t make them like that any more
yea gotta save the metal cars. this one is inside a garage mostly driven on weekends no rain. repair should outlast the owner. Since he has parkinson's. was in a rush to get it done before he lost total mobility so a few corners cut but nothing vital. Look up the video of the mustang completed turned out really nice. ua-cam.com/video/oCVpx4m6ieg/v-deo.html
What did you do for the little holes? Been watching a lot of your videos. Im fixing up a 66 beetle so all your videos are a real help. All these common sense repairs are great. Thanks.
I hated it... no I loved it...fuck my opinion doesn't mean shit? But when I looked in the mirror this morning I was important. Yeah I hate those guys who say you can do this and then fix it with 20000$ worth of tools.
Another idea- spray the inside of the panel with a rust converter primer, then Fluid Film spray. Then add an expanding foam insulation inside the damaged areas. Clean the outside to bare metal, hammer the edges lower, and add sheet steel patches with JB Weld. Finish with normal body filler. Every fall, add Fluid Film spray to the back side, and every few years more Fluid Film spray inside the panel, especially for a Rustang.
yea this was the easier way for someone who has less metal shaping tools. Door worked great and he drove the car until He could not drive anymore from Parkinson's.
@@Mikefngarage it seems you can fabricate some of the tools. I need a curve flange bender for a limited use, so I don't have to pie cut, because it's ahard place to weld.
yea that repair only took about 2 hours even with filler and primer. under the door cant see it at all finished perfect look at the build playlist. turned out nice.
Good work should be fine. I like the 67 68 Mustangs I had one when I was in high school I drove the tires off that car. I subbed your channel thanks for posting.
yea there have been severy know it alls that talk crap on this repair but no posted links on how to do it better ha ha. Plus why spend 2 or 3 days on something you will never see. hinged side of a door jam on the bottom. Give me a brake ha ha. Thanks for the positive comment
I appreciate you taking the effort to make this video and I would like to give you some advice for the next time you do a job like this. The pie cuts you made on the second piece were not really necessary and added a lot of extra work. If you had first made the bend in the flat sheet up against the door skin and then hammered it over a dolly to stretch the flange and then force the rest of it into a curve. Then the top bend could be formed over an object with a similar radius by tapping it with a hammer. Or better still the first piece could have the flange formed on it by stretching to meet the second piece, easier to metal finish on an outside corner. Ounce you have the piece fitting nicely then add the corner piece off the door to get a better finish. I’ve made a few patches just the way you did this one but I’m always trying to figure out how to do things better. Keep the videos coming and please do check out my channel, I’m working on a 1950 Plymouth and posting some videos of the project.
yea but the stuff I used coats the metal as well. with a clear. with the acid you will need to paint the areas behind as well. I also use a 360 degree spray nozzle to spray behind the panel. it is a tube with a spray nozzle on the end.
I'm working on my truck, have the same problem, are you using a mig welder with gas. All I have is two migs, both are flux core. Thanks for the video enjoyed it
yea some guys use a primer in a straw a 360 degree spray straw that they put down in the corner and spray after the repair. The rust stuff does chemically stop the rust but the protection part is gone with heat. Also you can put some paint down in the corner with acid brushes or swirl it around by movement.
yea this is just another way for someone to do that repair. you could spend many hours making that metal in one piece or make it the way I did and on the bottom of a door there will be no difference in the long run. especially if you rust treat the inner area. Which I did not in the video.
@@R0yL33 fitzee is yes really good. This repair was super complicated. He does similar stuff that I do. I dont see him doing anything like this one on his channel. shrinker stretcher would not have helped. plus this was for guys who have no tools to do that
you don't need to be buy or spend thousands of dollars to do this job nor hundreds of dollars just a little know how to work with metal and basic tool and learn how to paint some you can make this look like you spends thousands of dollars on it when in reality you done it very cheap and you know it will last a long time too, don't take it the body shop, you'll owe them your soul when there done LOL
Why not make the investment in a cheap shrinker/stretcher tool? I used to cut my panels in the corners like you do, but the stretcher tool was absolutely one of my better investments !
Can I see one of these stretcher tools? What is the price tag?
@@classiccarszone3769 Hi, sorry for late reply. I bought this: www.hbm-machines.com/producten/plaatbewerking/strek-en-stuikmachines/hbm-ss-12-strek-en-stuik-machine for around € 100. Not the best quality and surely not professional. But hey, neither am I :)
I guess they come in many varieties (manual, kick-version etc) and prices. They do damage the surface of the sheet a bit, but I still prefer using this tool. everybody is free to make his own choice
Cheap and cheerful a job just to save the car. I agree with you when you are restricted by cost. It will last probably as long as the car.
Great repair, even if “pros” or “experts” say you should have done it another way, it’s info that people like me use to plan our repair. So never stop spreading knowledge pal!
Thank you so much Kyle, I appreciate that!
Not necessarily industry standard for auto restoration but a hell of alot better then stuff was done in the past and will last a long time. There is more then one way to skin a cat. This is one of them. For a car that Im putting together or a budget build, this is a great option. I dont have the skills or tools to make a form fitting patch from scratch.
You can hammer on dolly to stretch the metal and tuck shrink the metal. Saves some time on welding and grinding
moptop85 or just buy a stretcher and shrinker 🤷🏻♂️
i think that everyone is different and what you do is what works best for you in different situations so those who like to knit pick, he fixed very nicely and once he puts some body filler over it, it’s fine! i mean with so many not even doing metal work, but with prices being so high for parts, i think we all should start trying to fix what we have🤷🏿♂️
Amen to that!
Like your approach to the rust repairs, its not a show car so as long as the parts are structurally strong its all good.
Exactly right!
"Post a video of yours showing how much better it is" - That's the nicest F-U I've heard in a while! Subbed!
thanks bud. car turned out great too ha ha.
Nice work, Yes you can spend a fortune to buy the whole door in reproduction or buy thousands of dollars in tools to make the contours and bends in the patch panel. I get sick and tired of seeing all of this rich boy crap on UA-cam where all of this is done. You, though, do it like most of us on a budget will have to do. I finally found a UA-cam channel that shows us how to make these difficult shapes and how to install them. Good job, you've earned a new subscriber. I've got a rusty 67 fastback just waiting for this kind of work and you've shown me your methods of repair, thanks.
yea not everybody wants to spend all their life building a car some guys like me want to drive them. That repair will be there for at least my lifetime too. I dont care to build a car for the next 3 generations either like some guys and their repairs probably wont last much longer than mine but it makes them feel better. Ha ha
@@Mikefngarage Eventually, you'll get around to building that go kart you've always wanted as a kid. :)
yup
Hey William, you might also like Fitzee's Fabrications
@@Kymbo1000 Thanks for that, I'll check it out.
You said it as i was thinking it. Oh my gosh!, you're not going to be able to fix that brother. Thanks for the info on the type of metal you're using for your patch panels. Quality work and insight into to how and why. I love it!
car looks really nice now and chuck is driving it instead of waiting for more money and time to do a perfect metal finish repair. These guys wasting their years doing that for someone to stuff it again are crazy.
some cardboarsd, a small body hammer and an anvil does wonders here, if you can afford a shrinker stretcher set, that would very useful.
pretty tight compound angles for that but I do use them from time to time.
Just took on a new project ..exactly what I needed to see ...thanks..
just another way to do the project. some guys want to make a one piece metal panel with many man hours and sand bags stretcher shrinker and still come out with the same results. which is car done and looking good. How you get there is your choice
That looks almost identical to the rust repair I had to do on my 72 mustang coupe driver side door. I ended up piecing it with like 4 pieces and curved it using the existing metal and grinded the curves in, it turned out pretty good other than a couple of dings I made with the body hammers and forgot about. My car’s trunk pan, all floor pans, and shock tower corners as well as the frame box where the floor light switch is had huge rust holes in them that I had to fix. The door was definitely very intimidating at first though I agree with that.
Compared to spending 4 or $500 on a brandnew door without glass or internals, i prefer your way everytime. Plus it keeps the car original.
Thanks for the comment, and yes absolutely!
Myself facing a similar complex corner repair is very encurraged, that instead of metal forming and fabrication, I can simply cut up an old washing machine in little pieces an patchwork my corner together. For this to pass inspection though, all the welds have to be ground, so using a few more grinding discs, but still, makes the whole ordeal manageble.
You bet there's more than one way to skin a cat the old saying haha
Good video! After about 15 years of doing paint and body work, I am finally learning how to weld. I just welded my first patch panels on a 1980 Impala Coupe. I had to use my own methods to make it work, which included securing the patch panels down with self tapping metal screws and also rivets. The self tapping screws did not work without me drilling a small hole to get them started. But this allowed me to secure the panels flush to the car before I hit it with the tack weld. I'm also experimenting with using my Unispotter to do track welds on small panels that can be accessed with that heavy tool. One other thing, I'm looking for that rust product you used in the project.
Cleco pins work better than self tappers
@@therealdevinreinke1103 I have been told that! I need to start using them!
I've done this too with the spray converter. Only one mistake I learned the hard way, it only reforms the surface rust. But there is still rust beneath and it will eat away the panel. So you will be replacing or welding again after 2 years. The inside rust is too heavy :(
Inside rust SUCKS! You are absolutely right!
Good job. There's different degrees of fixing. This is fine for 90% of the jobs. However, if you were restoring a Silver Shadow, it would be crap. Anyway, I would have liked to see it with a coat of paint. That would have shut up a lot of the naysayers. Thanks for posting.
for sure put a link of the video and a playlist of the car build looks 90 percent show.
Plain simple,
It is a true home repair style that works, I wouldn't want to pay a pro to do that leave of work for me but for what it is plenty ok
Yeah thanks for that this is for normal people not these Uber perfect restauration that are trailer queens and sit in the garage for ever a very unhappy car in my opinion
This is really cool. I am working on rust repair on a little Chevy Tracker and trying to use metal as much as I can manage. Your technique is encouraging, as everyone else said below when you watch stuff like the Eastwood videos you’ left feeling like you could never afford to do your own body work. I hope to work up to a more valuable project than my Tracker, but the things a place to start. Thanks for the video!
You can do it!
Exactly right , a rusty old bucket or anything is a great starting task .
True Fabrication
thank you
for all the haters here is a video of the car all done. I also have others search the channel ones with the doors and hood open. too. all pretty damn nice.
ua-cam.com/video/oCVpx4m6ieg/v-deo.html
Thats a very poor job , pro job should be exactly that . Pro . This is a shambles . Diabolical job .
I guess this is gOOd if you don't have many tools,but I would bend a 90 and use a shrinker stretcher to form the shapes I need.Good luck doing the rest of the car,I'd really love to see the whole car.
ua-cam.com/video/oCVpx4m6ieg/v-deo.html here you go turned out near perfect almost no filler on the inner panel repair.
Wow, congrats repairing a very difficult situation. Thankyou for sharing/repair advice. Gives me confidence have a go at my own repairs 👍🏻👌🏻👏👏 from 🇦🇺
just another approach to a repair which they all are. Not a concors repair but great for the project at hand.
@@Mikefngarage good enough in my books. Approx 1200 to 1500 repair bill include prep/paint by body repair shop..
This is not a bad repair but it'll still rust around your patch in the future which I guess won't be your problem. Look at Fitzee's Fabrications for a better method of making repair panels and patching. Also shot/soda blast the rust inside sections and apply zinc primer before closing and cavity wax after painting is a must.
The only potential issue I see is that the interior part of the door shell has an embossed pattern in the metal that’s impossible to match, I guess if these stories are really rusty reproductions might be the best solution.
yea correct....satin paint hides that a bit.
Ever consider a metal stretcher/shrinker to make your radius vice pie cuts? Takes some trial and error to learn but after you do it you can make parts nice.
Great video short an right to the point
thanks with all the haters on this OMG maybe they never do anything unless they do it right what ever that is. So it is the perfect excuse never to do anything. If you see the car all one there is no signs of the repair and it will outlast the owner for sure.
Nice job thanks for sharing, save a fortune in panels doing it this way.
Right on my man!
Thanks for this! I have a similar sitch going on on my double cab doors.... I really really really don't want to just throw money at it and buy new doors. This is a great breakdown of the job.
Glad it was helpful!
A little rust, clean your glasses off. You have a little good steel on your rust.
Hey I gotta say it looks great just keep taking your time an keep doing the good work it's 10x better then what it looked like just make her smooth an nice round edges an then take a 3000grip paper to her an baby it out an then your primer an what not a few times an sand it good a few times as well then your paint of course
Good job anyone putting there work out there and themselves on the line deserves a pat on the back keep up the good work.I am a first time doing this so far trying to learn how to weld or
All input is good input.
lots of different ways to fix that panel. this just gives people more ideas on how to fix theirs. Some people think you need to butt weld in a perfect piece and that is not always reality. you can do work like this and end up with a great result. check out the link on the car after
I always learn something new on utube even if I don't do auto
Thanks for sharing this informative and helpful video
I have similar rust problem on my 74 c-20 I will be using your technic thanks very useful idea....
No problem 👍
Good job. Welding done like a Navy Diver.
Nice to have seen totally finished job.
Dude, not very good welding skills
I disagree
Gotta remember it’s hard to do a nice job on that complex shape plus the old material he had to work with. The original was stamped on a hydraulic press.
@@Dark_Ages_Crusader yeah but that's pretty heavy metal. I'd hate to see this guy try to weld on one of the older Volkswagens.
It hurts my spleen when I find old repair work like this on a project. I have to cut all that crap out and do it correctly with no factory bends or lines for a reference. Something it's so bad the panel isn't worth saving anymore.
dont worry YOU WONT EVER SEE THIS CAR......ITS DONE....and driving. so it will last WAY PAST YOUR LIFETIME.....so your good.
As long as the door shuts, and the rubber works... How many times have I thought that, drunk out of my mind.
We have a 36 chevy that we had soda blasted and primed it has holes everywhere going to be a lot of this work on that one. Done and liked you know the drill. Thanks
hope this repair opens up some new ideas for your project.
Saved you a lot of money
thanks josh
Best welding, fabrication i have ever seen is URCHFAB in the UK , this guy is amazing, check him out.
Fritzee’s Fabrication
Hello Mr Mike. Iam feom Brazil and congratulations for your video!!
A stretcher/shrinker would have eliminated those cuts.
I think there are water drain channels under the door... If you weld it till its closed water cannot drain, so it will sit there if I am correct? This will cause it to rust, correct me if I am wrong
Yea i put drain holes in it your right.
You sound like Bill Murray ! LOL
Mudar para português
hello my name is Fabrizio I am restorer of old cars Free Lancer here from Brazil and I accompany your channel, I dream of working in the USA, is the market good in this area?
not so much but ok.
Rustang.......................great vid........................
If you drill a hole in the lower part it will drain the water and not rust out as fast
Great video thanks so much.
Tip use Prep & Etch to kill rust... People have different ideas but it is the base of all those "Rust Dissolver" Products are. Hope the Car turns out ok... Just a tip, run some practice beads till you get better...
here you go all done in 6 weeks. last year. video of the car. ua-cam.com/video/oCVpx4m6ieg/v-deo.html
Didn't expect an answer that soon !!!
Didn't want to hurt your feelings but you won't get only " likes " in real life !
yea for sure there are some winners on this video. And none of them have looked at the car all done. link on the video only has less than 1000 views.
The ever popular pie cutting...
some people dont like it but it works.
The fold overs always rust,there has to be something that will protect those.
some guy melted candlewax with atf in the doors.
Always thought about spraying the inside of my doors with new Hampshire oil.
everything that is manufactured by steel will rust, even new cars not surprising you just do what you can and the body shops will rip you off for sure.
Good video!!
I hope this isn't a classic mustang , I will never do it way to my cars , unless I want to flip them .
worked great still driving it now no rust.. looks perfect.
Th as te the way we did it when I was a boy when I w ax s 10 years old I would and paint the car thank to my father how many old fashioned cars we did and more newer cars also
You are correct sir I have used that kind i didn’t care for the results my self . I use a garden sprayer and flood the panels where they meet then use epoxy primer but to each their own.keep restoring those oldies they don’t make them like that any more
yea gotta save the metal cars. this one is inside a garage mostly driven on weekends no rain. repair should outlast the owner. Since he has parkinson's. was in a rush to get it done before he lost total mobility so a few corners cut but nothing vital. Look up the video of the mustang completed turned out really nice. ua-cam.com/video/oCVpx4m6ieg/v-deo.html
Yea for sure Roy thanks for the comments they will help others find their way to fix these old cars.
What did you do for the little holes? Been watching a lot of your videos. Im fixing up a 66 beetle so all your videos are a real help. All these common sense repairs are great. Thanks.
Hey Jason! Just now catching up on these comments. Are you talking about the pinholes in the clear coat? How is that Beetle coming along?
I hated it... no I loved it...fuck my opinion doesn't mean shit? But when I looked in the mirror this morning I was important. Yeah I hate those guys who say you can do this and then fix it with 20000$ worth of tools.
Another idea- spray the inside of the panel with a rust converter primer, then Fluid Film spray. Then add an expanding foam insulation inside the damaged areas. Clean the outside to bare metal, hammer the edges lower, and add sheet steel patches with JB Weld. Finish with normal body filler. Every fall, add Fluid Film spray to the back side, and every few years more Fluid Film spray inside the panel, especially for a Rustang.
I just came from grinding a fender thinking how the hell I'm going to fix it. Now I know.
yea this was the easier way for someone who has less metal shaping tools. Door worked great and he drove the car until He could not drive anymore from Parkinson's.
@@Mikefngarage it seems you can fabricate some of the tools. I need a curve flange bender for a limited use, so I don't have to pie cut, because it's ahard place to weld.
with an r
They make preform bottoms for doors .
yea that repair only took about 2 hours even with filler and primer. under the door cant see it at all finished perfect look at the build playlist. turned out nice.
Nice,! I just got a old mini bike that's been put up for about 15 years videos coming soon.
Good work should be fine. I like the 67 68 Mustangs I had one when I was in high school I drove the tires off that car. I subbed your channel thanks for posting.
thanks I liked working on that mustang it was pretty easy to compared to other stuff I have done.
video of car all done ua-cam.com/video/oCVpx4m6ieg/v-deo.html
That’s good mike. Where exactly did u get that rust spray.
Було дуже смішно,дякую.
Hello from RUSSIA as for me it is easier to cook a repair part, and then in one place you will brew and next to a bunch of rust .
Nice work considering that it's a complex repair and you're only using hand tools. 👍
yea there have been severy know it alls that talk crap on this repair but no posted links on how to do it better ha ha. Plus why spend 2 or 3 days on something you will never see. hinged side of a door jam on the bottom. Give me a brake ha ha. Thanks for the positive comment
@@Mikefngarage I'm restoring a '59 Hillman Minx (British), and I'd be more than happy with this repair.
@@TheHorsebox2 yea after filler there is a video link after paint super fine coat of filler and it is perfect strong and no rust.
@@Mikefngarage Thank you, friend. Btw, the finished car is gorgeous.
@@TheHorsebox2 thanks so many people that write hate never watch that video hilarious.
Wow what a mess, dude please find another job
Never criticize some one else's work they are doing the best they can with what's available,god job but ditch the tennis shoes for welding !
Tells people not to criticize ....then criticizes his shoes
Looks good Mike! This one popped up in my recommended!
cool they are suggesting it again. It was my best video until the van one took off.
@@Mikefngarage You can use laser cleaning. Laser cleaning is easy, efficient, no damage of the metal.
Great job
Nice Job ,I need to learn how or what to use on my cutting any ideas
I appreciate you taking the effort to make this video and I would like to give you some advice for the next time you do a job like this. The pie cuts you made on the second piece were not really necessary and added a lot of extra work. If you had first made the bend in the flat sheet up against the door skin and then hammered it over a dolly to stretch the flange and then force the rest of it into a curve. Then the top bend could be formed over an object with a similar radius by tapping it with a hammer. Or better still the first piece could have the flange formed on it by stretching to meet the second piece, easier to metal finish on an outside corner. Ounce you have the piece fitting nicely then add the corner piece off the door to get a better finish. I’ve made a few patches just the way you did this one but I’m always trying to figure out how to do things better. Keep the videos coming and please do check out my channel, I’m working on a 1950 Plymouth and posting some videos of the project.
There is a acid that I use it called ospho it works so much better
yea but the stuff I used coats the metal as well. with a clear. with the acid you will need to paint the areas behind as well. I also use a 360 degree spray nozzle to spray behind the panel. it is a tube with a spray nozzle on the end.
What’s the best gauge metal for doing patches like this?
depends what the original thickness is, 20 or 18 is typical.
Should have drilled out the spot welds and slid your patch back under the door skin. Still came out pretty nice though.
yea I wasnt going there especially on a door bottom and on the budget we were working with
here is how it turned out also have video of the door open ua-cam.com/video/oCVpx4m6ieg/v-deo.html
I'm working on my truck, have the same problem, are you using a mig welder with gas. All I have is two migs, both are flux core. Thanks for the video enjoyed it
Yes and yes
@@Mikefngarage thank you
Good work looks great
The car looks pretty nice. I thought rust converter was probably too good to be true.
Lol you must be at beginning stage of rust fighting if you believe rust converter do anything.
@@zell863 depends on where you are from where I am I have tested it and it lasts more than 10 years. which will outlive the owner.
Quick and informative video, thanks.
It only took ya 9 minutes. Awesome
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another rust hole repair idea check this one out. ua-cam.com/video/36ZokMrQLz8/v-deo.html
does the heat from the weld destroy the anti-rust spray stuff ?
yea some guys use a primer in a straw a 360 degree spray straw that they put down in the corner and spray after the repair. The rust stuff does chemically stop the rust but the protection part is gone with heat. Also you can put some paint down in the corner with acid brushes or swirl it around by movement.
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that is what I do. No high dollar repairs just get her done and driving. and looking good.
Finish could have been better maybe using different techniques. Thank you for sharing this video.
yea this is just another way for someone to do that repair. you could spend many hours making that metal in one piece or make it the way I did and on the bottom of a door there will be no difference in the long run. especially if you rust treat the inner area. Which I did not in the video.
this was before primer or filler all done perfect when done.
Okay that is clever
Hack job look at Fitzees channel maybe you will learn something.
worked well. for the diy guy or someone without the fancy tools this is a good repair.
Fitzee's da man.
@@R0yL33 fitzee is yes really good. This repair was super complicated. He does similar stuff that I do. I dont see him doing anything like this one on his channel. shrinker stretcher would not have helped. plus this was for guys who have no tools to do that
you don't need to be buy or spend thousands of dollars to do this job nor hundreds of dollars just a little know how to work with metal and basic tool and learn how to paint some you can make this look like you spends thousands of dollars on it when in reality you done it very cheap and you know it will last a long time too, don't take it the body shop, you'll owe them your soul when there done LOL
well said. thank you
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Stretcher Shrinker
This guy is a hack!!!
Yup
Nice video Mike! Just discovered your channel from Vané pinstriping so playing catch up! Good stuff! 👍
she is great here is the mustang all done ua-cam.com/video/oCVpx4m6ieg/v-deo.html
This is the worst why to do this
worked perfectly
What gauge metal do uou use
I like to use 20 gauge even though it might have been made with 18 it is much easier to work with for something like this
@@Mikefngarage lol oh im using 16
@@danawick9817 that has to be like thick steel on the under door area it was probably about 20 or something.
Bro!!! Niceville 🔥