10:13 that wasn't Johnson getting hit in the chin that was just him giving the ring floor a friendly warning that he was gonna punch some wimp into it.
this fight was SUPPOSED to be just for show, they were just supposed to give the croud a good fight and jack was supposed to win by decition, BUT ketchel decided to try to actually knock him out, to no avail, thats when jack got mad and struck back harder, u can even see him wiping ketchel's teeth out of his gloves at the end . lmao
I came here because of research into famous individuals from my home town of Grand Rapids. I stayed because of an amazing bout of boxing. Great share. Thanks for uploading this historic fight.
When you watch the way this fight ended you get the sense Johnson could have knocked Ketchel out any time during the course of the fight if he really wanted to. Seems as if he may have extended the fight for entertainment purposes or carried him to look good. Johnson was so clearly superior to Ketchel in every aspect, looked like a pro vs an amateur.
Maybe that's true, but sometimes it's dangerous to underrate opponent, even inferior, being too sure to have control of the match, trying to extend the fight, thinking about the show. Good example: Baer vs Braddock.
That's why I mentioned the way that fight ended. It appears he indeed did underrate him or was possibly instructed by the powers that be to make the fight interesting and take it easy on him. Once he was surprisingly knocked down by Ketchel that was when he realized he needed to end it and did so immediately.
IceveinsProductions in the documentary "unforgivable blackness" the sayed that the fight was supossed to go forma long time, stanley was actually a middleweight, they Both took it Soft till stanley knocked jack down, then got ángry and k.o stanley
Gambling on fights was huuuuge back then as well. Maybe Jack Johnson and the team bet a bunch of money on himself knowing he was gonna smoke his opponent!
I know some people have considered this a great fight but I beg to differ. with the way those boxers were fighting then,this is one of most pathetic boxing matches of all time. it's nothing compared to what jack dempsey did to jess willard.
This was supposed to be an exhibition fight. Ketchel didn't play by the rules and decided to hit Johnson with a real punch. Yes, he managed to knock down Johnson, whereupon and angry Johnson knocked out Ketchel. Johnson could have knocked out Ketchel at any point in the fight.
I love boxing fun fact when Johnson threw his right hand N walked to his corner he's seen picking at his gloves he was removing ketchels teeth from his glove
@@robertomolina2518 I'm not so sure about that. Why is he touching both gloves? It seems to me that he's just wiping his gloves after tripping to the canvas.
Can't tell because the shotty old school black n white.. but my grandpa would say boxing back then was no easy deal. Less rules and brutal. Haha miss you grandpa .. he was a boxer in the army and a serviceman during WW2.
You have to read Ketchel's complete bio. He backed down from no one. Do you know how Ketchel died? Do you know of his compassion for all living things?
There was weight classes but they didn't break down Heavyweights, Middleweights, into multiple divisions yet. Like "Cruzer weight" for example... didn't exist or wasn't thought of... or like "light" heavy weights, "Super" middle, etc etc..
I believe you can still get a Catch-Weight match sanctioned even currently, but there has to be a demand for it and it normally comes down to a person missing weight and the opponent going ahead with the bout. There was a time when Roy Jones Jr. (before his loss to Antonio Tarver) raised the possibility of fighting Floyd Mayweather Jr. stating he was the only one who could compete with his speed. At the time Roy Jones Jr. was still in his prime and I remember an analyst talking about how such a bout can be sanctioned but there were a lot of stipulations. On the other hand, back then the stipulations were far less for weight mismatches. Heck, even look at the fact it was scheduled for 20 rounds. Think about that. Currently a title bout can have a maximum of 36 minutes of boxing. At that time it was 60. That is almost double. Boxer safety became a stricter concern as the sport became more mainstream and tragedies occured. When Duk Koo Kim died in 1982 boxing Ray Mancini the round cap went from fifteen to twelve. It’s a natural cycle in sports where the safety of the athletes is looked out for and the rules become tighter.
They definitely had weight classes but it was savage/different times back then so nobody cared. I seen Jack Johnson documentary where he fought 20 rds. That's insane. Things weren t enforced. That could never happen now....
i mean ya its such a huge mismatch but back then this was what they did, i mean 20 years earlier John L Sullivan was going 75 rounds bare knuckled, the freak show matches and stipulations that seem outrageous now were just what went down then lol
That's insane how they had an 160lbs vs 209lbs. Different times then though. It was savage. This dude has 156 total fights; that will never happen again. I even watched his documentary where he fought Sam Mcvey 20 rds. That's just insane...
If they were, then Stanley made a big mistake knocking Johnson down, as he lost two teeth when he got knocked down. You can see Johnson brushing them off his glove in the video.
@@badabing8884 I'm not so sure about that. Why is Johnson touching both gloves? It seems to me that he's just wiping his gloves after tripping to the canvas.
Johnson was a big and skilled fighter, but he came along at a time when the Heavyweight class was lacking in good fighters. Most of the top contenders were 160-180 lbs range and couldn't stand up to Johnson's 205 pounds and power. How good was Jack Johnson compared to the rest of the Heavyweight champs over the years? I'd put him in the top 12-15 champions.
All thing s considered, he should be in anyone's top 10...he brought some style, new boxing moves into the ring...even Ali recognized that Johnson was innovative...I do agree, that he fought a few bogus folks, just like Ali did!
I don't believe this was just a show fight. Johnson knocked Ketchel down early with vicious hits. Both were trying to win. Probably an urban legend that Ketchel double crossed Johnson.
Jack Johnson vs Stanley Ketchel. October 16, 1909. Ketchel enters the ring the middle. champion of the world. Ketchel challenged Jackson for the heavyweight championship of the world. Ketchel was a powerful puncher .and actually knocked down Johnson in this fight. Ketchel catches Johnson with a wild right hand on the chin and goes down. Johnson in turns KOs Ketchel. Nice fight, really fun to watch!
It is remarkable...but that was a big source of secondary money...many folks would pay a lot, to see the fight in a theater...What kills me, is how people dressed back then!...pretty formal, at all times!...think how sweaty those people got, just like the fighters!
Before they fought Jack was goading Stanley, saying what you going to weigh for our fight Stan, 165, 170. Tommy Burns weighed 173 when he fought me and I've been hit harder by some women, Stan quips back, you should fight smaller women then Jack :- )
Perfect Gaming Really? Just saying but the people at the fight said that after the knockout jack was brushing stanleys teeth out of his glove. You can see him do it at 10:26
What a beast SK was. Why do people even point to what JJ did to SK? He outweighed him by 49 pounds! That would be similar to Ant Joshua fighting a middleweight today. This is a blemish on JJ's record, why are people shocked at what happened. JJ typically fought smaller men. That is why he looked unbeatable. When he fought a true big man Jess W he got manhandled and knocked cold. He was way overrated. JJ never gave another Blk fighter a shot at the title eighter. Great Champ I think not. Great skills, nope.
Johnson was 37 and out of shape when he fought Willard. Still, he gave him a boxing lesson for the first 20 (yes) rounds before losing steam and getting ko’d. Had it been a 15 round fight, he would have easily won. He wasn’t “manhandled.” Jeffries weighed 227 lbs.
@@HankFinkle11 You sound so stupid Bro. Yes, Jack was 37, Jess was 33, 4 years difference. Jack was a pro, Jess boxed as a hobby. Jack was in great shape, he went well over 20 rounds, your comment is moot. Jess's strategy was to take Jack into the later rounds, you are faulting him for that, he was just smarter. And Jack out of shape, so stupid, he went over 20 rounds in 100 plus degree heat! Someone who was not in shape would not have been able to do that. Jack just was not great, and Jess proved it. And if the fight would have been 15 rounds, with a different strategy Jess would have still knocked his ass out! After the fight look at the pictures of Jess. Hardly a mark, Jack tried to do to Jess what he did with the little guys and Jess stopped him in his tracks, manhandling Jack with ease! And Bro Jeff never wanted the fight. All that has been stated is verifiable fact. You need to do more research.....
@@HankFinkle11 Jess was 34! And Jack was out of shape, LMAO he went over 24 rounds in 100 plus degree heat. Out of shape my ass. And look at the film, Jack charged Jess in the early rounds, it was not effective and did little to Jess. If was a strategy for Jess to let Jack punch himself out. That strategy was used by many fighters then and today. Stop making excuses for a chump with few skills. Had the fight been 15 rounds Jess's strategy would have been different, the outcome the same, knocked his ass out!
Boxing is so rigged and at that era extreemly bias. No telling what johnson agredd to just to have this fight. And what a phoney knock down by ketchel. Thats rigged
Ketchel was less than I expected but with that size and even speed difference I’m surprised it lasted that long, the way joe rogan and Tyson talked up Ketchel I just thought it would be a fight!
@@bonnon0brian if my aunt had a dick she would be my uncle. That’s about how smart your argument is. Fighters today are as great as they are thanks to guys like these… but the fact that ketchel not only lasted that long but knocked out a dude who was 40 lbs heavier while doing his best and using his knowledge to fight the bigger man was a sight to see. Great fight. Love the old school grappling that was implemented, instead of having a ref break it up like the cats now a days get the luxury of and no fighters now a days fight 45 rounds lol and the padding in the gloves ect.
The announcer said that Johnson and Ketchel hated each other. That was a lie. Johnson counted Ketchel as one of his best friends. Ketchel was in Johnson's corner during the Jeffries fight.
ive read that they were friends and it was supposed to be fixed for johnson to win. i also read that when johnson wipes his gloves in the end he was removing teeth. brutal. hit him so hard he stole his teeth.
Funny comments a bunch of b.s. Give that man credit. If you were living back then, I don't care how big you are Johnson would have tore your ass up in that ring. Then remember he is fighting 50 years before segregation.
No Zeal426 is right it was suppose to go as many rounds as they could and neither of them was going to try and finish the fight. The more rounds it went the more people that would watch it. But when johnson got knocked down he decided to end the the fight.
Ridiculous comment! Did you watch the video? Hear the announcer? It was a fight to the finish. Johnson liked to punish men he didn't like and Ketchel almost pulled an upset but Johnson was much too strong for the middleweight.
+ETHAN “GTA 5 MOVIES” MCDOWELL They were fake he was holding back because the 2 of them had an Agreement that the fight would go the distance until Ketchel pulled a fast one on Jack Johnson and put him down so when Johnson got up he Knocked Ketchel out cold and had 3 of Ketchel`s Teeth in his Glove . The Fight was Fixed . Read the book about Stanely Ketchel Brutality it is a Brilliant Book about a hungry Fighter who got to Big headed and and got Shot for messin with a Blokes Misses . Sad Ending to a great fighter
Mi Ko Należy wspomnieć, że Stasiek już na starcie był na straconej pozycji. Był lżejszy od Jacka o ponad 20 kg. Walczył z prawdziwym ciężkim, Stasiek nie był nim.
It looks as though fight fans wwere just as gullible then as they are now. A skinny middleweight fighting for the heavyweight title and all those people show up!
@@curbozer5006 it was said, but never confirmed, that if Ketchel had won, he would re-draw the "color line" that had kept fighters like Johnson from going after the championship in the first place.....
You believe in too many old wives tales, and urban legends, lol. Ketchell was so badly beat up, face swollen up and bloodied like a red balloon, 2 front teeth knocked out! He was not playing any cards for weeks lol.
@@garrypalahitski3194 Wise tales, perhaps. Publications from that time period is all we have go on anything from that time. Gunboat Smith sparred with both fighters leading to this fight went so far in the book "In This Corner" that the Johnson knock down by Ketchell was a planned and staged knockdown to make the film more profitable. Who really knows.
I understand that these guys were great in their era, but I always laugh when people claim that they would stand a chance against a modern boxer. They'd get their asses KO'd in the first round. You just have to look at their goofy stance and punches, even an amateur (from modern times) would beat them.
ye but if they were using todays techniques, diets, training etc then it would be a different story. Also back then the fights were scheduled for way more rounds so their stamina is likely to still hold out in todays fights.
Idk man I feel a lot of these fights would look a lot different in hd I think old school fighters would probably transition fine if they were given time to adjust to rules I honestly feel they were pretty well rounded back in the day some real great in fighters and body punches like if you look at James Toney or Floyd Mayweather there throwbacks to ezzard Charles and Archie Moore or even Andre ward in his last fight against kovalev he really wore him down even if some of those shots were low Sergei had know idea what to do once ward started to put his weight on him and grapple on the inside I think there were some truly great technicians too like joe gans Gene Tunney or even Tommy burns was like the qawi of his era
Youre an idiot modern fighters would be the same in his era and he would have the same advantages in this era theres even people who say mayweather isnt good or looks bad sometimes but he wins .
Another SNOREFEST!!!!! These fights starting with John L through Willard all were based on going 25,50,75,100 rounds, with 4 oz gloves. In essence these fights produced fighters that threw 5,or 6 punches a round, and after throwing a punch they held and held, or did nothing the rest of the round. ANYONE that thinks they are watching something mystical, amazing, or spectacular should RUN to the best eye doctor in the world, many if not ALL of the fights from 1889-1918, were absolutely nothing but SNOREFESTS, for insomniacs only. Jack Johnson,Jim Jeffries, are so OVER RATED it's a bad joke. Not one of these guys pre Dempsey could carry the jock strap of Dempsey,Louis,Marciano,Liston,Frazer,Holmes,Foreman, Ali, Klitschko, TYSON, Lewis,Holyfied etc. As a matter of fact many AMATEURS would have spanked these guys silly. These films show that before Dempsey, boxing was at best a SIDE SHOW.
😂😂😂 I agree. I’m just a student of boxing tho. Watch what I’m told and study even tho this doesn’t look like boxing at all. Smothered punches and awkward clinches combined with illegal blows and staged fights
GUNBOAT SMITH SPARING PARTNER OF JOHNSON FOR KETCHEL FIGHT LATER FOUGHT JACK DEMPSAY TWICE 1:1 SAID THAT KETCHEL WOULD EASILY KNOCKED OUT DEMPSAY AND THAT STANLEY WAS THE BEST FIGHTER EVER!
Mike Tyson & Joe Rogan brought me here.
Ditto
Yup
yup and they brought me to DMT. that was an awesome interview they had
same
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Video is such good quality considering that this fight happened over 100 years ago.
110 years ago better resolution than some current streamers
over 100 years ago still better than security cameras
But also very expensive for the time. The equivalent would be cameras used in directing films today, and those usually go for ~$10,000.
10:18 mark.
Johnson: “Oh, so he thinks this is a game...ok.” 😂
10:13 that wasn't Johnson getting hit in the chin that was just him giving the ring floor a friendly warning that he was gonna punch some wimp into it.
Nope...he ducked, but still got caught on the side of his head...look where Stanley's glove goes!
both of ketchels two front teeth came out and Johnson wipes them of his glove at 10:26
DAMN!!!
Albert don’t think he’s wiping off the glove that hit Ketchek he made that up.
@@Holestic_Honesty proof?
Then he ate his own teeth when Willard knocked them out
Never happened
this fight was SUPPOSED to be just for show, they were just supposed to give the croud a good fight and jack was supposed to win by decition, BUT ketchel decided to try to actually knock him out, to no avail, thats when jack got mad and struck back harder, u can even see him wiping ketchel's teeth out of his gloves at the end
. lmao
I think you're pretty wrong. 8:37
Johnson wants to knocks ketchel out before the stanley's right hand.
Nonsense story cooked up to have Johnson save face after getting put down by a man 40lbs smaller.
@@CarnevalOne Did we watch the same video? Like bragging about winning a battle when you lose the war lol.
That story is false.
I came here because of research into famous individuals from my home town of Grand Rapids. I stayed because of an amazing bout of boxing. Great share. Thanks for uploading this historic fight.
EpicRob not from GR but living here for 5 years currently, I live near his bridge st statue and presumably where he grew up
The referee and announcers were so unbiased , they saw the sport for the great sport it could become without segregation. Real love for the sport .
You must be deaf and blind burns got robbed.
Who came here from the Mike Tyson with Joe Rogan podcast cast 1/17/19? Lol
When you watch the way this fight ended you get the sense Johnson could have knocked Ketchel out any time during the course of the fight if he really wanted to. Seems as if he may have extended the fight for entertainment purposes or carried him to look good. Johnson was so clearly superior to Ketchel in every aspect, looked like a pro vs an amateur.
Maybe that's true, but sometimes it's dangerous to underrate opponent, even inferior, being too sure to have control of the match, trying to extend the fight, thinking about the show. Good example: Baer vs Braddock.
That's why I mentioned the way that fight ended. It appears he indeed did underrate him or was possibly instructed by the powers that be to make the fight interesting and take it easy on him. Once he was surprisingly knocked down by Ketchel that was when he realized he needed to end it and did so immediately.
Yes, that's what Baer tried to do, but too late. He was bad trained and tired, with no more strenght to knock Braddock out, and lost the fight.
IceveinsProductions in the documentary "unforgivable blackness" the sayed that the fight was supossed to go forma long time, stanley was actually a middleweight, they Both took it Soft till stanley knocked jack down, then got ángry and k.o stanley
Gambling on fights was huuuuge back then as well. Maybe Jack Johnson and the team bet a bunch of money on himself knowing he was gonna smoke his opponent!
I understand the psychology but to prove dominance I believe it must be an equal sided competition Go ketchel you were the real hero
Yeah it’s like already slanted with that weight but back I. The day that’s what they did
Polish fighter Stanisław Kiecel alias Stanley Ketchel
+jessiejames1600
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I know some people have considered this a great fight but I beg to differ. with the way those boxers were fighting then,this is one of most pathetic boxing matches of all time. it's nothing compared to what jack dempsey did to jess willard.
This was supposed to be an exhibition fight. Ketchel didn't play by the rules and decided to hit Johnson with a real punch. Yes, he managed to knock down Johnson, whereupon and angry Johnson knocked out Ketchel. Johnson could have knocked out Ketchel at any point in the fight.
Joe P,
That's what I'd always heard, and I believed it UNTIL I saw the fight.
It was a title fight
I love boxing fun fact when Johnson threw his right hand
N walked to his corner he's seen picking at his gloves he was removing ketchels teeth from his glove
@@robertomolina2518 I'm not so sure about that. Why is he touching both gloves? It seems to me that he's just wiping his gloves after tripping to the canvas.
think you're pretty wrong. 8:37
Johnson wants to knocks ketchel out before the stanley's right hand.
Can't tell because the shotty old school black n white.. but my grandpa would say boxing back then was no easy deal. Less rules and brutal. Haha miss you grandpa .. he was a boxer in the army and a serviceman during WW2.
It would have been sad as fuck If a 160 pound man would have beat jack.... he was fighting junior middleweights his hole fucking life basically
You have to read Ketchel's complete bio. He backed down from no one. Do you know how Ketchel died? Do you know of his compassion for all living things?
I believe was shot by a jealous husband while living on a ranch.
... and Ketchel still presses Johnson.
one of the most obvious works of all time
Obvious?
@@TheKillerEmcee yes
@@lilsleepy3332
Obvious?
@@TheBatugan77 yes
160 vs 209 ??
CALICOTV301 there were no weightclasses back then.
There was weight classes but they didn't break down Heavyweights, Middleweights, into multiple divisions yet. Like "Cruzer weight" for example... didn't exist or wasn't thought of... or like "light" heavy weights, "Super" middle, etc etc..
I believe you can still get a Catch-Weight match sanctioned even currently, but there has to be a demand for it and it normally comes down to a person missing weight and the opponent going ahead with the bout. There was a time when Roy Jones Jr. (before his loss to Antonio Tarver) raised the possibility of fighting Floyd Mayweather Jr. stating he was the only one who could compete with his speed. At the time Roy Jones Jr. was still in his prime and I remember an analyst talking about how such a bout can be sanctioned but there were a lot of stipulations. On the other hand, back then the stipulations were far less for weight mismatches. Heck, even look at the fact it was scheduled for 20 rounds. Think about that. Currently a title bout can have a maximum of 36 minutes of boxing. At that time it was 60. That is almost double. Boxer safety became a stricter concern as the sport became more mainstream and tragedies occured. When Duk Koo Kim died in 1982 boxing Ray Mancini the round cap went from fifteen to twelve. It’s a natural cycle in sports where the safety of the athletes is looked out for and the rules become tighter.
They definitely had weight classes but it was savage/different times back then so nobody cared. I seen Jack Johnson documentary where he fought 20 rds. That's insane. Things weren t enforced. That could never happen now....
Yeah, back when boxers had BALLS
i mean ya its such a huge mismatch but back then this was what they did, i mean 20 years earlier John L Sullivan was going 75 rounds bare knuckled, the freak show matches and stipulations that seem outrageous now were just what went down then lol
johnson could have finished him at any point of the fight.
Yeah, he was just toying with Ketchel.
Dee Leblanc aaa
damn what a weight difference...that could never happen today.
That's insane how they had an 160lbs vs 209lbs. Different times then though. It was savage. This dude has 156 total fights; that will never happen again. I even watched his documentary where he fought Sam Mcvey 20 rds. That's just insane...
Mhmm!
Ketchell weighed 170
apparently this was half in and half out of a staged fight, and stanley and johnson were friends, which makes me happy
If they were, then Stanley made a big mistake knocking Johnson down, as he lost two teeth when he got knocked down. You can see Johnson brushing them off his glove in the video.
@@badabing8884 I'm not so sure about that. Why is Johnson touching both gloves? It seems to me that he's just wiping his gloves after tripping to the canvas.
Teeth were never in Johnson's glove..
He hit him with a right yet he's wiping off his left glove
Johnson was a big and skilled fighter, but he came along at a time when the Heavyweight class was lacking in good fighters. Most of the top contenders were 160-180 lbs range and couldn't stand up to Johnson's 205 pounds and power. How good was Jack Johnson compared to the rest of the Heavyweight champs over the years? I'd put him in the top 12-15 champions.
All thing s considered, he should be in anyone's top 10...he brought some style, new boxing moves into the ring...even Ali recognized that Johnson was innovative...I do agree, that he fought a few bogus folks, just like Ali did!
@@curbozer5006can you elaborate?
I don't believe this was just a show fight. Johnson knocked Ketchel down early with vicious hits. Both were trying to win. Probably an urban legend that Ketchel double crossed Johnson.
Huh
So fake! This is acting.
Jack Johnson vs Stanley Ketchel. October 16, 1909. Ketchel enters the ring the middle. champion of the world. Ketchel challenged Jackson for the heavyweight championship of the world. Ketchel was a powerful puncher .and actually knocked down Johnson in this fight. Ketchel catches Johnson with a wild right hand on the chin and goes down. Johnson in turns KOs Ketchel. Nice fight, really fun to watch!
Wow they even rigged boxing back then aswell!
This is the fight where Jack Johnson had agreed to "carry" Ketchel and he was until Ketchel hit him.
This is great quality considering its 109 years old
It is remarkable...but that was a big source of secondary money...many folks would pay a lot, to see the fight in a theater...What kills me, is how people dressed back then!...pretty formal, at all times!...think how sweaty those people got, just like the fighters!
Very embarrassing fight for Johnson. Middleweight guy vs heavyweight and Polish boxer still managed to send Johnson down .
this is like Anthony joshua fighting saunders for a heavyweight title.. Johnson was 50lbs heavier lol makes you realise how bad johnson was
solid cake if Saunders eats mcdonalds for a year he can become like Ruiz and fight with Joshua
Before they fought Jack was goading Stanley, saying what you going to weigh for our fight Stan, 165, 170. Tommy Burns weighed 173 when he fought me and I've been hit harder by some women, Stan quips back, you should fight smaller women then Jack :- )
paul lav That’s pretty funny.
jack johnson would fucking destroy julio cesar Chavez.
I CAN'T IMAGINE 20 ROUNDS FIGHTS? ? WHY IN THE WORLD?
Fixed and Fake ass fight.
Perfect Gaming
Really? Just saying but the people at the fight said that after the knockout jack was brushing stanleys teeth out of his glove. You can see him do it at 10:26
20 rounds 😳😳
Jack Johnson looks like Floyd minus the shell defense
if it was a work johnson breakin the guys face up sure put an end to that.
Jack Johnson win, wiñner, champion
At 6:03 guy is making a phone call
Jack Johnson legend, Dutty Babylon couldn't handle the little white fella takin such a beating from the inspirational J.J.
Was that knock down real though?
I think if Trump was sitting in that audience he would have been rooting for Jack Johnson to win
20round fight.. Holy shit!
Really short at that time. Johnson vs Willard fight was made by 45 rounds
What a beast SK was. Why do people even point to what JJ did to SK? He outweighed him by 49 pounds! That would be similar to Ant Joshua fighting a middleweight today. This is a blemish on JJ's record, why are people shocked at what happened. JJ typically fought smaller men. That is why he looked unbeatable. When he fought a true big man Jess W he got manhandled and knocked cold. He was way overrated. JJ never gave another Blk fighter a shot at the title eighter. Great Champ I think not. Great skills, nope.
Johnson was 37 and out of shape when he fought Willard. Still, he gave him a boxing lesson for the first 20 (yes) rounds before losing steam and getting ko’d. Had it been a 15 round fight, he would have easily won. He wasn’t “manhandled.”
Jeffries weighed 227 lbs.
@@HankFinkle11 You sound so stupid Bro. Yes, Jack was 37, Jess was 33, 4 years difference. Jack was a pro, Jess boxed as a hobby. Jack was in great shape, he went well over 20 rounds, your comment is moot. Jess's strategy was to take Jack into the later rounds, you are faulting him for that, he was just smarter. And Jack out of shape, so stupid, he went over 20 rounds in 100 plus degree heat! Someone who was not in shape would not have been able to do that. Jack just was not great, and Jess proved it. And if the fight would have been 15 rounds, with a different strategy Jess would have still knocked his ass out! After the fight look at the pictures of Jess. Hardly a mark, Jack tried to do to Jess what he did with the little guys and Jess stopped him in his tracks, manhandling Jack with ease! And Bro Jeff never wanted the fight. All that has been stated is verifiable fact. You need to do more research.....
@@HankFinkle11 Jess was 34! And Jack was out of shape, LMAO he went over 24 rounds in 100 plus degree heat. Out of shape my ass. And look at the film, Jack charged Jess in the early rounds, it was not effective and did little to Jess. If was a strategy for Jess to let Jack punch himself out. That strategy was used by many fighters then and today. Stop making excuses for a chump with few skills. Had the fight been 15 rounds Jess's strategy would have been different, the outcome the same, knocked his ass out!
Boxing is so rigged and at that era extreemly bias. No telling what johnson agredd to just to have this fight. And what a phoney knock down by ketchel. Thats rigged
Ketchel was less than I expected but with that size and even speed difference I’m surprised it lasted that long, the way joe rogan and Tyson talked up Ketchel I just thought it would be a fight!
Yeah you don’t know about fighting. This was a chess match. Between two experts.
@@Maynard-il1yjlol and if they fought todays fighters they’d get dog walked inside of 6 rounds
@@bonnon0brian if my aunt had a dick she would be my uncle. That’s about how smart your argument is. Fighters today are as great as they are thanks to guys like these… but the fact that ketchel not only lasted that long but knocked out a dude who was 40 lbs heavier while doing his best and using his knowledge to fight the bigger man was a sight to see. Great fight. Love the old school grappling that was implemented, instead of having a ref break it up like the cats now a days get the luxury of and no fighters now a days fight 45 rounds lol and the padding in the gloves ect.
Burns got robbed.
TWENTY ROUNDS...
The announcer said that Johnson and Ketchel hated each other. That was a lie. Johnson counted Ketchel as one of his best friends. Ketchel was in Johnson's corner during the Jeffries fight.
Wrong
Why?
50 lb difference
49 lbs though..
ive read that they were friends and it was supposed to be fixed for johnson to win. i also read that when johnson wipes his gloves in the end he was removing teeth. brutal. hit him so hard he stole his teeth.
Good on him ....
Funny comments a bunch of b.s. Give that man credit. If you were living back then, I don't care how big you are Johnson would have tore your ass up in that ring. Then remember he is fighting 50 years before segregation.
Jack Johnson was a badass! A top heavyweight champ, who would've excelled in Any era!
How'd they get sound? Motion pictures of the time were silent.
His two front teeth !
Brown sauce V Ketchup. Ketchup the looser by a bacon buttie.
strange old technique
hahahahaha I can't imagine if this technique is being used nowadays.
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No Zeal426 is right it was suppose to go as many rounds as they could and neither of them was going to try and finish the fight. The more rounds it went the more people that would watch it. But when johnson got knocked down he decided to end the the fight.
Ridiculous comment! Did you watch the video? Hear the announcer? It was a fight to the finish. Johnson liked to punish men he didn't like and Ketchel almost pulled an upset but Johnson was much too strong for the middleweight.
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"Stanley Ketchel" ... The Odd Couple
Johnson knocked out Ketchel so hard that Johnson was seen picking Ketchel's teeth out of his glove.
@Bob Hayett I'm not sure about that. Why does he do it to both gloves? It looks to me like he's just brushing his gloves off and tripping over Ketchel
he spent it all at the hospital after the fight tho...
209 vs 160?!? Lol
They became good friends after this
They were friends before this fight
Jack johnstons punch looks so fake
Looks like wwe 😂
+ETHAN “GTA 5 MOVIES” MCDOWELL They were fake he was holding back because the 2 of them had an Agreement that the fight would go the distance until Ketchel pulled a fast one on Jack Johnson and put him down so when Johnson got up he Knocked Ketchel out cold and had 3 of Ketchel`s Teeth in his Glove . The Fight was Fixed . Read the book about Stanely Ketchel Brutality it is a Brilliant Book about a hungry Fighter who got to Big headed and and got Shot for messin with a Blokes Misses . Sad Ending to a great fighter
In this fight Jack Johnson knocked out 6 of Ketchel's teeth after he was knocked down.
Not 6 but I'll let u have it
Gangsta right hook? What the hell is that? Was it a Gangsta right cross thet Willard took Johnson out with? Or as you say dat knocked da fuck out wit?
he was jacked
5:40 very fast.
Ouch!
At the end Johnson is flipping Ketchell's front teeth off his glove. Priceless
Not only that...the next day, Stan's manager presented him a necklace of sorts, with those teeth strung on it!...shit, those dudes were tough sob's!!
Both wrong
Stasiek dobra robota, trochę Cię przechytrzył rywal.
Mi Ko Należy wspomnieć, że Stasiek już na starcie był na straconej pozycji. Był lżejszy od Jacka o ponad 20 kg. Walczył z prawdziwym ciężkim, Stasiek nie był nim.
damian 376 no wlasnie to probowalem lopata tlumaczyc ale strata czasu na ludzi, ktorzy wiedza swoje. Pzdr. 👍
209 vs 160 Im juzt sayin
It looks as though fight fans wwere just as gullible then as they are now. A skinny middleweight fighting for the heavyweight title and all those people show up!
at that time they were looking for any white man to beat Johnson and get the title back
@@d820m Yes they were...just look at the frenzied crowd, reacting to Johnson hitting the canvas!
@@curbozer5006 it was said, but never confirmed, that if Ketchel had won, he would re-draw the "color line" that had kept fighters like Johnson from going after the championship in the first place.....
It has been written that Ketchell won a chunk of Johnson's purse in a poker game that very night.
You believe in too many old wives tales, and urban legends, lol. Ketchell was so badly beat up, face swollen up and bloodied like a red balloon, 2 front teeth knocked out! He was not playing any cards for weeks lol.
@@garrypalahitski3194 Wise tales, perhaps. Publications from that time period is all we have go on anything from that time. Gunboat Smith sparred with both fighters leading to this fight went so far in the book "In This Corner" that the Johnson knock down by Ketchell was a planned and staged knockdown to make the film more profitable. Who really knows.
Staged.
like your GF climax
@@jimstan1795 Yes
wtheF is a 200+ pound fighter match with someone 160????? I wonder who's going to win...
I understand that these guys were great in their era, but I always laugh when people claim that they would stand a chance against a modern boxer.
They'd get their asses KO'd in the first round. You just have to look at their goofy stance and punches, even an amateur (from modern times) would beat them.
ye but if they were using todays techniques, diets, training etc then it would be a different story. Also back then the fights were scheduled for way more rounds so their stamina is likely to still hold out in todays fights.
Idk man I feel a lot of these fights would look a lot different in hd I think old school fighters would probably transition fine if they were given time to adjust to rules I honestly feel they were pretty well rounded back in the day some real great in fighters and body punches like if you look at James Toney or Floyd Mayweather there throwbacks to ezzard Charles and Archie Moore or even Andre ward in his last fight against kovalev he really wore him down even if some of those shots were low Sergei had know idea what to do once ward started to put his weight on him and grapple on the inside I think there were some truly great technicians too like joe gans Gene Tunney or even Tommy burns was like the qawi of his era
Markus Cook never todays guys wear out easy these guys would fight 40 rounds in outdoor conditions
Youre an idiot modern fighters would be the same in his era and he would have the same advantages in this era theres even people who say mayweather isnt good or looks bad sometimes but he wins .
stop waking up
all this time and white people still ant changed
No one has
what about wat u said is different from what i said?
Another SNOREFEST!!!!! These fights starting with John L through Willard all were based on going 25,50,75,100 rounds, with 4 oz gloves. In essence these fights produced fighters that threw 5,or 6 punches a round, and after throwing a punch they held and held, or did nothing the rest of the round. ANYONE that thinks they are watching something mystical, amazing, or spectacular should RUN to the best eye doctor in the world, many if not ALL of the fights from 1889-1918, were absolutely nothing but SNOREFESTS, for insomniacs only. Jack Johnson,Jim Jeffries, are so OVER RATED it's a bad joke. Not one of these guys pre Dempsey could carry the jock strap of Dempsey,Louis,Marciano,Liston,Frazer,Holmes,Foreman, Ali, Klitschko, TYSON, Lewis,Holyfied etc. As a matter of fact many AMATEURS would have spanked these guys silly. These films show that before Dempsey, boxing was at best a SIDE SHOW.
Your post is a snooze fest.
😂😂😂 I agree. I’m just a student of boxing tho. Watch what I’m told and study even tho this doesn’t look like boxing at all. Smothered punches and awkward clinches combined with illegal blows and staged fights
Mike Tyson disagrees with you. If you ain't got respect for the people that evolved the sport, you ain't shit.
GUNBOAT SMITH SPARING PARTNER OF JOHNSON FOR KETCHEL FIGHT LATER FOUGHT JACK DEMPSAY TWICE 1:1 SAID THAT KETCHEL WOULD EASILY KNOCKED OUT DEMPSAY AND THAT STANLEY WAS THE BEST FIGHTER EVER!
There was fury in that 50% Superman punxh
thank you for this post historyman. i was born in the wrong era