Why Indonesia is Moving Their Capital City
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Great video! Just want to let you know you need to switch the locations of Sydney and Melbourne! As a Melbourne girl myself I'm quite proud to be from the south of Australia 😄
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Go storm
Welp uhhh idk what else i can say for this but i guess enjoy it.
His videos are FULL of errors like these, i cant believe they dont double check things before uploading. I wonder how much more misinformation there is in this channel
I guess that how the people from north hemisphere see Sydney and Melbourne. 😂
i born and live in java, i don't have any problem with this capital city relocating, all i wish is the developer will be much much much more concern about environmental issues, Kalimantan is too precious for us, not only for Indonesia but for the earth and the entire population, Kalimantan is blessed with a beautiful rain forest and the diversity in it, i just hope human greediness doesn't destroy it's true wealth just like we destroy java island, mega city with it's skyscraper is nothing compared to Kalimantan's priceless nature.
Same, Ive had my concerns with the move because i fear that the population moving in could stress Kalimantan’s already stressed ecosystems
Industri/ekonomi masih di pulau jawa, pemindahan ibu kota bukan berarti dalam semua hal akan kesana kecuali pemerintahan. Tingkatkan ekonomi di sumatra sulawesi papua NTT NTB BALI tak perlu khawatir akan hal pemindahan penduduk.
Unfortunately, palm forrest already destroying borneo island. Hope relocating of this capital city can also fix that problems
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There is simply no other way it will happen. The new capital will destroy the rainforest around it, then they will destroy further tracts for palm oil, then they will build many high ways to speed up the destruction. The very project is a catastrophe, and it is impossible for it to be any other way. All hail money! Unfortunately, the ecological consciousness of most Indonesians is nill. Look at the comment section - mostly support, "oh the economy" and no thought of nature.
Since i'm from West borneo myself. I can assure you that Borneo is like a wet dream for tropical city designer because most tropical islands are small and dangerous due to volcanic activities and earthquake, Borneo never had any of that (i live here for 20 years and never in my life have i experienced an earthquake). However, enviromental problem caused by palm oil industry can already be seen across the island. So here's hoping that moving a huge administration center like *The state capital* would see more regulations actually being enforced more effectively.
There's a silver lining here. Once smog season starts and the wind direction blows towards Indonesia, the new capital WILL be affected, like the rest of Kalimantan. Will be fun to see the political elites' reaction. 😈
Yes, I know I'm evil.
@@marioprawirosudiro7301 I dont know, they have been affected all years too though. It wont be anything new to them too.
Last time i check, it was neighboring countries who are losing their cool dealing about it.
@@aldyhabibie9717 Ah, right. I often forget that Jakarta itself is already a very polluted city.
Well, if they bring all their gas-guzzlers to the new capital, maybe the smog would double? Because of the periodic haze from the jungle? Fingers crossed.
While the smog from oil/fuel vs smog from burning tree/forest sucks, they do 'taste' differently.
If anything for Jakartans that will be moving there, they may consider that as improvement.
Do y'all have any other forms of natural disasters like hurricanes and typhoons ?
Indonesia has been one of the more fascinating countries to me. It blows my mind how they managed to make islands the span of Europe a country
they don't make Island.
@@r3dpowel796 read the comment again, slowly
Some of the territories didn't agree to be part of Indonesia and there is still a lot of tension and even conflicts. But it is amazing how they managed to bring so many really different and diverse groups under one umbrella called "Pancasila" which is the unifying principle of the republic.
@@r3dpowel796 duh
The main islands are really huge, we barely noticed we're on an island, its more than enough to build several kingdoms, and eventually a republic
I live in one of the Malaysian states of Borneo Island and the capital relocation certainly caught me attention when it was first announced. While I acknowledge and am aware of all the considerations that took place for the move, I really hope that the ecological system in Kalimantan would be well-preserved and not be destroyed in the name of development.
Its already destroyed and would be destroyed further. greed people convert the jungle into palm plantation, and now they will plant buildings.
Hahahhah you are so jealous 😂😂😂😂
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Another fun facts is:
Indonesian Government since Independence (1945) already moved the capital city 5 times in 5 years due to political and military instability:
Jakarta (1945-1946)
Yogyakarta (1946-1948)
Bukittinggi (1948-1949)
Yogyakarta (1949-1950)
Jakarta (1950-...)
So, If the government declare the capital city is Nusantara by 2024 ,then Indonesia government already moved its capital city 6 times. I believe that is the world record for this achievement 😁
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@@alunesh12345 no
@@alunesh12345 no
@@alunesh12345 nope
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I believe there is no god but Allah, and Muhammad is the messenger of God.
I also believe Isa pbuh is the messenger of God, not the God itself.
Hopefully it doesn't cause a huge population growth and thus a negative impact on the environment. Living in Borneo, I've seen how municipalities have allowed destruction of the forest due to greed (even seeing seeing government officials legally change their race to acquire native land). What was once a beautiful Forrest when I was a child, has rapidly become a barren land or monoculture 😢
exactly
that's what im afraid of.... Indonesian gov't can be very corupt and backwards... usually at the cost of its citizens
Sabar bang
I think thats more better than a forest, before people complaint about forest and animal they should thinking a human first, you want that people lived in borneo taking care of forest and animal for free? For your oxygen? Yo you need to learn how american ruin their forest for industry, for money, what they did is right.
You just more devilish rather than that poor greenpeace that always claim bad habbits but no money for helping people that lived around it, its human, you cant just judge they cant did this did that before YOU HAVE MONEY to paid, dont your parent tell you that before cooking you need to BUY WITH MONEY from market
YOU NEED OXYGEN? THEN PAID, IN IT?
You think Borneo is bad? Go take look at Java here. Our drain water system used to be fill with fishes in the 90's now its as black as oil.
The capital city will be named "Nusantara"
The oldest record of the name found in a book named Negarakertagama, written by Mpu Tantular and completed by Mpu Prapanca at the era of Majapahit Empire in the 14th century
Nusantara is the name used by Majapahit empire to call all of it's teritory.
Nusantara means
Nusa (Kawi) = Island
Antara (Sanskrit) = Between
Antara actually means 'difference' but depends on context
Nusantara = New Centre
@@whyiseverysinglehandletaken2 in indonesia, we translate antara as "between"
@Dark Knight if you read what happened to jakarta right now, this project is necessary and urgent. If the project didn't started soon, 2050 indonesia as a whole will be doomed with an underwater capital
@Dark Knight what will happened if a country lost it's capital from a disaster?
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The CG rendering for the new capital city looked really amazing! Indonesia is a HUGE country (with the population twice of that of Japan's!!!). This means that the gravity of South East Asia will move to Borneo island. I'd like to visit the new capital city one day when the travel restrictions are lifted.
but corruption from greedy officials and bureaucrats will probably make this project one of the largest corruption scandals in Indonesian history
@@harsamc123 plus we're still dealing with Covid 19
@@locochang6533 you just turned everything onto you
@@locochang6533 craphole?
@UC4Li03BYWoNfCJbRMnViMZA who tf says indonesia is a crap hole?.Its not like they wage wars or literally be a dictatorship.
An interesting take i heard on this was that this is also a geopolitical move, by moving the capital to east kalimantan, Indonesia opens up an eastern corridor that will be able to take away influence from the straits of Malacca. This is in line with the history of the empires in Java and the influence the straits of Malacca they are subjected to. By creating this eastern corridor they allow for trade from north asia to flow downwards to Taiwan, the Philippines, and finally through eastern Indonesia thereby decreasing the dependence of Indonesia in the straits.
I think so aswell because long time ago there is a kingdom that control that eastern corridor, I forgot the name btw, and that kingdom is strong
Sorry for my bad english
@@Rozen23 kutai or brunei
China is probably paying them to move north as to be able to monopolize the rest of the southern Asian ocean..
@@Razgriz032 Kutai was Banjar's vassal
@@scottbeaulieu13 that makes so much sense!! I'm sure you didn't pull that out of your ass
The Indonesians are lovely and friendly ❤️🇮🇩 from Laos 🇱🇦
Indonesian are lovely but not the government
Man I love Indonesia, everything related to this country is interesting and amazing, such a big country with a huge diversity. I actually have been trying to travel there but Covid has ruined my plans. Hopefully i can get there sooner. And of course i will visit Jakarta, even though most indonesians have told me not to because "there's nothing to see, is just a city", but I'm sure it will be a great experience to meet the urban lifestyle of Jakarta.
i'm indonesian myself and i can confirm. if you do visit indonesia eventually, just don't visit jakarta. it's a city of depression. go to bali instead and if you have extra time you might as well travel to the new capital in borneo. honorable mention: if you're looking for more nature scenery, these places should be in your bucket list:
1. raja ampat (papua island)
2. lombok (there's a new motogp track being built there)
3. borneo
4. wakatobi (sulawesi)
5. pulo dua (sulawesi)
jakarta looks pretty cool but if you're a tourist its not worth the money, ignore the indonesian nationalists when they try to convince you to go to jakarta.
Ah if you are a masocist im sure the traffic jam on jakarta will be a Good experience
@@benravenhill484 maybe Fisiting Bandung will be a better choice than Jakarta Tbh
@@ShiroCh_ID iye. bandung boleh juga tuh. udaranya masih adem
If anyone's interested, some other recent capital moves that weren't mentioned include --
Nigeria -- from Lagos on the coast to Abuja in the interior in 1991.
Kazakhstan -- from Alamaty (on the southeast border) to Aqmola (renamed Astana, in the north-central interior) in 1997 (and renamed again to Nur-Sultan last year).
South Korea -- from Seoul to Sejong, which is in progress and supposed to be completed in 2030.
If I recall correctly the Philippines were also looking to move their capital away from Metro Manilla to a more northern location in Luzon.
Kazakhstan wasn't recently lol
Pakistan from Karachi to Islamabad
Why my friend doesnt say that s.korea capital gonna change he korean thou 😐😐😐
And Tanzania changed its capital from Dar es Salaam to Dodoma, a shift planned since the 70s, but didn’t actually happen until recently.
as an Indonesian, I agree with all the problems that you stated and I also support the government to move the capital city to a new area because it can spread out our country development not only focus on one island.
What is more important - the "development" (I hate this buzzword) of a single nation for its own sake, mostly meaning more money for the already filthy riches, OR the last large tract of primary rainforest in Sundaland that has the intrinsic value for the whole humanity? When all is said and done, Indonesians as a nation don't value their natural treasures and the immense biodiversity very much, if at all. It's like nature is only seen via its economic value. Rainforests = "undeveloped barren land" etc. Stories of what stopped the destruction on Siberut and of recent provincial vs central governments' disagreements in Papua are very telling of the mentality.
@sehhi vooty yeah even our president always from java so i think its smart to move it to kalimantan or sulawesi
@@fistboy5857 ??? There is no correlation between capital in java island and the origin of indonesian president always from java. Why our president always from java?? That's because the majority of indonesian people is java. 60% people of Indonesian are Java. And most of our people still choosing the president from the same region, religion or blood.CMIIW.
@@lluvianeiva7309 soo why majority of people in java?? Because almost everything in java if we move capital city we can hope people in another island not focus to java anymore
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I'm from Samarinda, there are some people here concerned about the environmental impact of moving the capital to Borneo, not to mention the place they're moving it to is pretty much still a forest. Borneo, especially in east Borneo is getting hotter and hotter every single day. I just hope they don't completely annihilate the forests to make room for housing communities since there's probably going to be a huge spur of people coming here...
There is no other option . Have you seen the traffic in Jakarta - Bekasi-Bogor-Puncak route ? Drivers , commuters , babies snd students struggling during 3-4long wait . Vehicles moving inch by inch .. the smog OMG. Thank goodness some toll touted have been rectified to ease travel , but Bekasi, Bogor still worst areas yo travel to .
Every place in the country owes to each other and the government their patience and support in change . Relocation is necessary .
I just hope the population could drop sharply so that the pressure on the environment could be releaved
@@UU-gc2cr what a loser
As a lot of people have already said, a capital relocation is necessary to keep Jakarta from exploding from all the people in it. I know the environment is important, I've in fact followed things like climate development for a while and know a lot about it but Indonesia is still a developing country with many of it's citizens, while not exactly in poverty aren't fully developed. Right now a new capital is needed.
i just hope Kalimantan isn't gonna be overcrowded like Java when the new capital city start to established. I'm afraid many people from Java come here and make a life, and Kalimantan will be hectic or overcrowd, u know more people more crimes. I don't mean not to welcome them but i think everyone knows why i said so.
I know its hard to summarize in 20 minutes the issues of a giant diverse country's capital that most westerners know little about, but believe me the government is more concerned about 'eruptions' like the uprising in 1998 that overthrew the Suharto dictatorship than volcanos, that deserves at least a mention. Also bears to mention that Balikpapan (near the proposed new capital) is a growing center of the oil industry in Indonesia probably not a coincidence.
Java economy will collapse without borneo. Its a wise move to move capital to borneo. Borneo is the major producer of coal, gas, oil, cpo, timber worth 200 billion usd/year GDP
@@JojohnWick all the things that aren't sustainable and will be a costly dependancy....
@@JojohnWick Not really. Indonesia is a newly industrialized country. Much of the economy is centered around industry and trade in Java. The fact is, Kalimantan is heavily subsidized.
@@JojohnWick This probably won't end well for the wildlife of Borneo.
How do you know my country more than I do..
I am from India, and always fascinated by and connected to Indonesia, just by a 15 day exposure to Papua region. Among all nations, Indonesia is special to me. I commend the law makers for this great move, which will benefit in many ways. My awareness of Jakarta is only through airport windows during flight hops, and net. I still cherish 😍 Ikan Mera, seguire and an Irian art on my wall ♥.
Thank you Mr. Prasad for the comment. What do you think poverty rate In Indonesia compared to India. Who's suffered the most.
@@socrates2940 I think India Because they still have biggest population we have to respect about it, isn't easy to manage country who have bigesst population over billion btw : )
@@socrates2940 in the future India become super power counter under China
@@ariefdrx4827 if it was not under fascist power.
@@hanishbasheer LOL fascist power have you gone nuts. Which fascist power are you talking about.
I love Indonesia. The places and its people. My 6 months stay there was one beautiful experience
As Indonesian..I am proud of my country..thank u sir... don't be hesitate to come n visit here again...best regards
@@yhanaghozali6042 See you one day Indonesia, Aku akan kembali untuk yakin.
Thanks man, you can come anytime. Regards from Jakarta. 🙏
@@kuyaharvey don't mean to be rude, but google translate sometimes sucks
@@hipercool3479 haha... sakto jud kaajo ana sir.
Thanks!
I got confused at the Australian capital. The cities were interchanged. Melbourne is south while Sydney is on the east
Edit: I love RLL videos. Like I said, I got a lil bit confused at that part but I rechecked and that’s why I made this comment. Fantastic video overall.
@@UnkownUA-camr286 u have no content
@@fasha7747 look at his pfp
Neither is the capital, it's uluru in the center of the countryeh
@@archingelus what is uluru?
and he said ww2 started in 1945...
Indonesia should be extra careful with the location of the new capital. Study the situation of Kuala Lumpur, the flood plain and basin problems. Ensure sufficient waterways for flood water handling. Plan a “planned city” with all the necessary underground conduits to cater to transportation, utilities, communication & waste disposal network for next 100 years. Good Luck !
The area for the new city is not a coastal flood plain. One reason for the location. It's a bit hilly. I am sure that area will become flattened over time.
This plan actually originated from our first president and founding father, Mr. Soekarno.
If you worry about flood, borneo island geographycally surround by rivers.
Speaking of infrastucture that man made, jakarta is sinking already, and very polluted, the jungle of concreate.
Yeah I wish the govt hire some city planning experts from like, Netherlands maybe
@Nasrud Nasrud no… the best is in borneo, the center of Indonesia, Why Singapore? Singapore is small land country they will have more complicated area problem in the future, Think about national diversity Borneo is the best one
@Nasrud Nasrud its better to move away from major port/trade city and create new one I guess. Over the time also can be benificial for whole Borneo Island (Sabah, Sarawak, Brunei) if Indonesia decide to build a major port at Kalimantan, only if the infrastructure for transportation across the Borneo island connecting other countries has been complete.
The location of new capital is good, east kalimantan is the most developed kalimantan province in indonesia and one of the most developed province in indonesia with very High HDI, and GDP and also the province with the largest economy throughout all borneo, yes all borneo including malaysian serawak and sabah and brunei. Balikpapan and Samarinda, the cities that are bordering this capital are also two largest cities in the entire island of borneo
This is part of the massive infrastructure build up by this administration all across indonesia.
Also as a jakarta resident, the river are actually being clean up since the era of jokowi as Governor, and today,there are effective clean up system in Jakarta not only on the river but also on residential area
And no for everyone who wonders, Jakarta won't be abandoned, it is municipal city with the largest economy in indonesia and the entire southeast asia, it would be just like US abandon new york
@Alfaritsi Akhtar problem with naypyidaw was that it was pretty unpopular among the public as well to be built by the military dictator. And the dictatorship built the capital more for themselves rather than any people.
Both these elements seem to be absent in Indonesia's case.
@Leo the British-Filipino 70% of east kalimantan is ethnic Bugis (Sulawesi ethnic group), Paser and Kutai (native on the coast) and Dayak (native on the interior). It is unlike for example Mindanao, where Visayan settlers have completely replaced all locals except for a tiny muslim enclave on the west.
Good to hear
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@Martial Cabo no, that's because indonesia is a decentralize state and we are no longer live in medieval era when communication is difficult, jakarta has it's own governor and officials, central government didn't manage jakarta directly, it was the governor and mayors of each section of Jakarta
Jakarta also got the largest budget out of all province and municipality in Indonesia and the current project to save Jakarta is a national project, meaning it was being funded also with central government budget
Elon Musk spent more on Twitter than Indonesia is spending on their new capital
In the future, maybe no more country exist, but corporate 🤣
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Hi! Im from indonesia and currently live in jakarta. I was shocked when u state all the problems that jakarta has and it is much worse than i thought. I enjoyed living in jakarta because of the ease access to public transportation and the employee's wages that keep on growing every year. From my pov, flooding problem and traffic issues is slowly decreasing because of some contruction and regulation that the government made to prevent these problem. But i think moving the capital city to a new location is a good move from our government. Java is already pretty good economically so we need to maintain excellent economic growth for other island as well and that problem will be solved by this. Thank you for making this video! Goated content as always!
Lol who’s care about your opinion?
@@mrmuscle7684 rude
@@mrmuscle7684 me
@@mrmuscle7684 me
@@mrmuscle7684 i do
I'm from Malaysia. I believe that Sabah and Sarawak (Bornean regions in Federation of Malaysia) as well as Brunei will obtain much opportunity to progress and benefit after the relocation of Indonesian capital city to Kalimantan.
And i heard that your PM wants to be included in the process of making the new capital city. That's brilliant actually, i believe the development in eastern part of Malaysia is significantly lesser than the western part of malaysia. With our capital moves, people projected the traffic between two borders and the economical impact throughout those three countries in the island will risen up. That also means, there'll be a better infrastructure since our president has planned the high speed train to be build in the new capital.
@@mattardyantoriyadi you've got the point, the progress in East Malaysia is way left behind those in the Peninsular part. With this upcoming relocation, hopefully will be able to boost and locate Borneo in the eyes of the world though it's the 3rd largest island, not much is well known about us.
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@@LiBa2107 Borno has too much rain and unfavorable climate conditions to attract more business.
Good for nature, bad for industry.
Obviously. Everyone in the island will get the splash from the new capital city. The capitals, of course.
I am a malaysian I have visted Indonesia 3 times love it. People are very intelligent hardworking broadmined. Felt very free there with regards to religious freedom etc
Love to live there. Sumatra is beautiful. Lake Toba heavenley. Their president is very clever.
Very intellingent, hahahahaha
I love my Malaysians brother, they have great senses of humor!
Thank you 😌
thanks
I live in Malaysia for 5 years and I like Malaysia too, I think KL is much better than Jakarta in my opinion as Indonesian. Less crowded and less traffic jam
Thank you bro for discussing this video about my country (Indonesia). Btw, apart from the geographical problem which is a factor in the capital city move, it turns out there is another thing, namely the change in time status which was originally similar to GMT in Thailand (aka GMT +7 or WIB) to GMT in Malaysia/Singapore (GMT +8 or WITA) to receive investment information (because we have always been left behind regarding it).
The new Capital city, as of the time I wrote this, is planned to be named "Nusantara", which translates to "Archipelago".
As someone who grown up in Jakarta and also experienced living at other city in Java Island for few short years, I fully embrace this decision to move the Capital city. It is the right thing to do, at least to alleviate Jakarta overpopulation problem since right now the city itself is not condusive anymore for most of its citizens.
The government made this decision based on that time when USA moved their capital from New York to Washington D.C.
"based on that time when USA moved their capital from New York to Washington D.C." Hmm not sure I agree. Did Jokowi or someone else in the government say that? Because New York afaik at the time wasn't overpopulated, nor was it sinking...
@@DaZi19 The capital was agreed to be moved to continue the balance between the southern and northern states/colonies, therefore Washington DC was decided to move to the potomac as the Potomac river generally demarcated the deliniation between the north and south
@@hpsauce1078 oh and in Indonesia's case it's to balance between the richer Java and the poorer not Java? In that case I can kinda see it, even though I still feel like that's one of the least important reason imo
@@DaZi19 and also some reasons of the moving too are for balancing the geopolitic so it wouldnt be javacentris anymore and to seperate between bussiness and comercial with government . So it wouldnt be too Crowded anymore.
Dude.. I doubt "most of it's citizens" will be along for the move.
As a person from Myanmar, the best reason we think the military moved the capital is because of their need for safety in an environment when they were increasingly unpopular. They wanted to be safe and they've even built multiple safeguards into Naypyidaw's design such as the 20-30 lane highways which double as landing strips for military planes in case of an emergency. The military has done what it wanted with selfish and little thought like change the country's name, cancel currency that was not a multiple of the dictator's lucky number etc. So it's safe to say climate change concerns would have been insignificant or even negligible in their thought process
Indonesia too. Moving capital to Kalimantan restricts the mobilization of mass from West Java where all the usual protesters coming from. Still, Jakarta is sinking very rapidly and spend billions on money on it is just a waste at this point
Bingo lol the same thing is about to happen in Indonesia, most protesters are in Java since 60% population is there and it's a central economy hub.
Let's see how many subs I get from this comment.............
didnt one of them change the side of the road burma drives on due to a witch doctor?
wait, i thought they moved it so they could deal with those separatist groups up north mor easily
I lived in Jakarta for a year. I fell in love with Indonesia and its people, but Jakarta problems are very real. I hope all these projects succeed and I will be happy to be back in Indonesia. Concerning the pollution, I spent 9 years in China. Indonesia environment is paradise compared to China's and I would it to remain like that.
China has almost every type of landscape, you can find tropical rainfall lanscape in Yunnan and Hainan, just like indonesia.
@@qizhang5129 but china is not that beautiful compare to indonesia believe me I've been livin on both country for long term china for 2 years n indonesia since 2017 till now...
Thank you!
@@qizhang5129 China odes have some amazing sights but most of the country is plains, desert, and urban sprawl whereas most of indonesia is still pretty wild and nearly the whole country is jungle, forests, or wild mountains once you go past the beaches or leave the cities.
@@arthas640 yep, Jakarta is like the hidden city among the jungles just like from video games.
Awesome video! I spent a month in Indonesia, Bogor and Jakarta seen a president escort was pretty cool, love the country and and interesting culture
The “building new capital city” thing can always be a hit or miss, it can end up like Brasilia or Abuja and look pretty nice, or be like Naypyidaw and be completely empty
Edit: I know Indonesia's new capital most likely won't end up like Emptyidaw I was just saying theres only two ways new capitals go 😂
Also, a lot of Brazilians are telling me Brasilia sucks, really? looked pretty nice to me but I'll take an actual Brazilians word for it I guess
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Another problem with naypyidaw was that it was pretty unpopular among the public as well to be built by the military dictator. And the dictatorship built the capital more for themselves rather than any people.
Both these elements seem to be absent in Indonesia's case.
Or Astana.
For a geography channel, it’s interesting to see you mix up the locations of Sydney and Melbourne on the map you presented
They also put that overlay map up a said western new guinea was in Kazakhstan while it was in Russia
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@@conorkelly947 It was touching Kazakhstan btw
@@alunesh12345 take your magic man some place else
@@magadhadipati01 no it wasn't. It was touching Georgia.
as a malaysian, a sabahan on borneo island iam really looking forward toward this. i hope we sarawakian & sabahan could get some of those benefits from trading with the new indonesia capital, so we in borneo are not left behind in infrastucutre and education like the west malay did to us.
Hello there from a fellow Sarawakian!
@@antoniusblaise8733 hello 👋🏼.
Sabahan here too. I hope more economical opportunities will be benefited by neighbouring states.
Yet keep voting umno.
don't you see what happen to the new gov? In 2020. We did vote others, but those old greedy bastard still find ways to regain control.
Also org kg in borneo were lacking education for a very long time, rm50 is good for them. In sabah they're very proud with "TATAP BN" a shirt they're wearing almost every day.
Younger people know better, especially those living in city with better education. Last election, all big city in sabah won by opposing party only kampung BN won.
Moving a capital can be a hit or a miss. And that's why we'll never move our capital because it's perfect enough. My grandpa had to rebuild it from scratch with the help of my father due to US bombing and it wasn't easy but they did it and I will continue doing it justice.
Dak mangarati wak kecek e do.. 😂
Love how every time he talks about Java, he'd throw Russia in there just to compare the population.
Russias massive size and low population density makes it a great comparative tool for explaining abstracts in political geography.
@@bort6459 True but as someone who's watched all his videos this comparison is getting kinda boring xd at this point I'm like what's new?
@@terrylin6758 title always new🤣
@@terrylin6758 yeah, maybe a couple US states or EU countries for a change.
@@thestudentofficial5483 If you want US, Indonesia had like 80% of the population US had while having 1/4 of the land.
Hopefully the objective of moving our capital from Jakarta/Java to Nusantara/Borneo will equalize the opportunity for Borneans/Kalimantanese to grow in many aspects which has long been enjoyed by Javanese. They can enjoy the economy, education, etc. So their natural resources are used for the commonwealth of Kalimantanese rather than sucked by politial elites in Jakarta.
will accelerate more transmigrasi
Ivoaryan, well said.
Don't forget ur own government too. What did they do in these loooong time? Central government had and still giving ur government money and now starting to build infrastructure with central's money. Where's ur own money? Is it because ur government more corrupted than Central but u rather to blame ur own government, u turned blind and blaming central government?? LOL
@Da thats true
Agreed. It's kind of crazy as an outsider seeing countries like Indonesia where some cities are comparable to western cities like those in the US while other parts of the country are stuck 100 years or more in the past, where 1 ethnic group who make up less than half the country hold most of the wealth and power. It's like a European colonial empire encapsulated in a single archipelago kind of like England in the British isles
I myself did working in the goverment handling this particular case (i did work in ministry of works as a consultant) and the video is actually pretty much accurate in terms how reasons why we need to move out capital. If i may, i want to add much of information as well as aggregated opinion (both by government and its people) regarding this issue
1. True that Jakarta sinking fast due to heavy usage of ground water, so much so that recently there are issues of limiting ground water usage in several districts inside Jakarta, while also making retension well to increase water absorbtion into ground. It is already discussed between goverment and local representative council (DPRD) to pass this plan into a law to be enforced.
2. As for new capital itself, it is still have issues. While yes Kalimantan (Borneo) has advantage of being earthquake "free" and less potency of geological disaster, it is by no means still pretty much affected in terms in ecological threat such as flooding (although it won't be severe as Jakarta) and smog. Now i highlighted about smog because this problem is, by any means, will haunt new capital as well. You see, when you say Borneo is a lush rain forest, that is not true either, since there now more and more jungles were cut open to make palm oil plantation (and yes, Borneo provide pretty much most of world, if not Indonesian, production of palm oil) as well as opening new coal mines. and these often make bush fire shows up. While yes not much fatalities, it still threatens much of jungles itself, and providing dangerous smog that can threat Borneo in general (and the capital in particular). Borneo itself did engulfed in such smog that not only affected some of its cities inside the island, it also impacted western part of Indonesia, heck even Singapore and Malaysia as well
3. Many concerning that the new capital will be an empty husk just like Naypyidaw, instead of like Brazilia or Abuja. Well i have to say that it kinda not true but it actually is. See, indeed since most of Indonesian population heavily concentrated on Java, the island, especially Jakarta, became a centre in economics in our country. So much so that all of headquarters of national company lies in Jakarta pr its satelite cities. Not to mention there is a kind of sentiment that sums up an old belief between indonesian society
"It's better work near homeland"
It means that you just want to work near your birthplace, or your homeland or sort. Not many Indonesians are eager to move outside their homeland (and if they do, most won't come back either). These means relocation such people to new capital, in and itself, is a major task. While yes, civil servants as well as armed force can be "mandated" to live there together with their families, same thing won't be easy to ask an enterprise or national compamy to move their headquarters there except if there are compensation or sort.
4. And finally, the most pain in the ass of all, politics. See, there is still a dividing opinion whether the capital shpuld be moved at all. While yes the Jakartans many agree, still there are some who disagree just because the politics (put it simply, Jokowi was like Indonesian version of Biden. Quite a lot hate his government) and the oppositions are mostly egomaniacs (although again, governmental supporters are also egomaniacs so, not much difference) and this pretty much affected how on policy be made. See, while indeed there is thorough research for the choice of site for new capital. There is also someone who taking this as an advantage for personal business (and yes. Some of politicians in ministerial and representative level do have a palm oil plantation or coal mines) that quite disturbing. Although again, we can't much say about this since politics in Indonesia itself (if not global) are a complex one
Therefore i can say that i might be pessimistic about the plan, but i do hope at least people realize that this thing are actually necessary.
Kerja di Bappenas kah bro?
@Zaydan Naufal i did forget about the law has been passed. But indeed the fatalities are low despite the cost is fairly high
@@jumpinsphere di KemenPU sih, dulu sempet bahas IKN disitu 😂😂
@Shy Cracker saya pribadi si agak ragu ya, meskipun memang ada yg pindah, tapi jumlahnya belum besar dan memang masi enggan org2 pindah (kyk kasus politisi PKS yg menghina kalimantan kemarin), terlepas dari bahwa hal
Itu menyinggung org asli sana (yang sebetulnya memang pantas org kalimantan tersinggung), ini jg fakta tersirat bahwa masih banyak yg enggan pindah ke kalimantan, apalagi ke ibukota baru
Would be worth mentioning Kazakhstan too. 8th largest country, the capital city used to be Alma-Ata in the south. Now, brand new capital city from the scratch Astana( Nur-Sultan), in the center of Kazakhstan. In order to get more control up north where a lot of russian population. Now we see, whats going on with Ukraine
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As a Bruneian, this is interesting to watch. I'm quite curious as to what will happen in the future for Kalimantan. But I think one thing you haven't stated is the fact that the Borneo has it's own problem, which is air pollution from forest fires from Kalimantan itself
Either that or Jakarta emitting more :p
it could be a good news for our neighbor country. since the capitals move, they can deal with bad/naughty oil palm company quickly and the result may be reducing/ending air polution annualy
The problem stems from neglect, certainly it would be interesting when the city is built.
Thanks to Malaysian oil company
yes, agreed about that problem but hoping that with the capital city being there at borneo/kalimantan, that might help a lot in that problem and many other problems that might not be exposed or known yet.
I lived in Beijing (one of the top 3 worst cities for traffic in the world) and went to Jakarta for a week to work. The traffic was worse than Beijing's worst intersection! We only went out within walking distance of the hotel, thankfully it's a decent to good city for walking, at least where we were.
As person origin from Jakarta current situation is better than it's ten to 15 years ago 😁
So sorry for that. Hope we can solve that problem in the next attempt for Jakarta.
it is ridiculous to say Beijing is one of the top 3 worst cities for traffic.........As of December 2021, there are 27 operating lines of the Beijing Metro, with an operating mileage of 783 kilometers and 459 stations (including 72 transfer stations).......the resident population of Beijing is only 22 million......
I live in Laos. It is China's next door neighbor. Laos capital is Vientiane. We have the lowest population in Asia. With less people, we get less traffic and noise. Laos is a great location to open a factory. It's easy to do business with China next door.
What makes you think Beijing is among the top three? Is there any report which states so?
Great video! I'm a native of East Borneo (Balikpapan) which is just few km away from the new planned capital, and I've spent half my life living in Jakarta before moving to Japan for studying. I completely agree with the decision to move the capital to Kalimantan because Jakarta has too many problems due to urbanization in the last 50 years.
You’ve one of the best channels in UA-cam and I hope it can be multilingual. The way you collect and present information is beyond perfect. I am a huge fan. Prayers and respect to your work.
As a person who spent his entire life in Jakarta metropolitant area, it's true that a lot of issues is happening in Jakarta right now, from environmental to social and traffic issues. I think it's a right choice from president Joko Widodo to move the entire capital city to the Kalimantan. I hope the development of the new capital will be focuses to build a more public transport oriented and more sustainable city than Jakarta.
Its weird they move capital city to the national garden which alot of trees been cut...orang utans will be lost..and the origin people from borneo will be lost also...i think its the name of money and politics ..greedy..
Hello Johanes. I'm surprised by the great number of people from Indonesia and Malaysia posting on this thread in English. Can you tell me -- is speaking English pretty common among people in the cities of these countries? Among the young? Thank you.
@@fijanbomer9532 I'm surprised no one mentioned this yet. The environment will take a toll
If the government doesn't get its shit together we're going to create another problem.
@@hhyten 90% of all gen Zs here can speak some English
@@hhyten maybe I can help you to answer your curiosity, I'm a native teenager from Indonesia and I can say prolly 90% of Gen-Z sure can speaks English pretty well. And just fyi we have some groups and pages in Facebook and Instagram which connects peoples in all across ASEAN (South East Asia) and speaks English on it. So yeah, English is basically pretty common among the teenagers here, not to mention that most of Gen-Z here are trilinguals and some even speaks 4 language as well, we speaks Bahasa Indonesia, our native tribe language (like Javanese, Sundanese, Bataknese, etc and we have around 700+ of them), English, and the religion related languages (like Arabic, Chinese, and Hebrew).
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Cheers 🍻 it's just the beginning. Hope we can finish this huge project without any major problem.
I agree with the fact in this video, Indonesia really has to move its capital city considering that the island of Java is already very densely populated. The discourse of moving the capital city of Jakarta has also existed since Indonesia was still colonized by the Dutch, precisely during the reign of Governor Herman Willem Daendels. Many factors caused Indonesia to have to move its capital city, in addition to the overpopulation factor on the island of Java, geographical factors were also the main reason why Indonesia had to move its capital city because of the very low landmass of the island of Java and it was predicted that in the future the island of Java would sink because its geological factors were already damaged. Population distribution must be carried out evenly, considering that the island of Kalimantan is still empty of residents, although Kalimantan's natural resources are very high but underutilized due to a lack of human resources, this can be a reference for Indonesia to move the capital city.
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Every neighboring country is waiting to capture that only left good natural resource of Indonesia. Greedy , needy but sufficient and disgusting 😑
The noise is intense ain all of the cities in java for sure trust me then there are the mosque at 4 am .
Train rides are definitely worth a go the country side is so beautiful but there is disaster on the horizon slowly destroying its own environment
Indonesia moving their capital city would be a right step in their development, keeping in mind the challenges faced.
Indonesia is a beautiful country with beautiful people though I only stayed there for a month I really enjoyed my stay there ❤️
Sending lots of love to Indonesia 🇮🇩 from Bangladesh 🇧🇩
You haven't seen the fascists and the extremists then. Oh yeah the dictators who are in charge right now, too
@@zeinmets3550 lol calling Jokowi a facist says alot about your understanding of Indonesian politics
@@arv7539While he isn't a fascist, and I did not say that he is a fascist in my first reply, he does fall into one of the categories that I mentioned in my comment. So, because of that, he isn't that much better anyway. Why do you think the meatball vendor memes have resurfaced, huh?
@@zeinmets3550 Talk to the hand okay.... Provocator and propagator anti Islamist and Rascist as well!!
@@zeinmets3550 "kadrun" detected ehehe
As a person who has lived in Jakarta for the past few years, This video was spot on. I could really relate to all the points that you've presented in this video, Good Job Real Life Lore, I'm hoping for you to make more great contents like this !!! 😃🙏
I completely agree with you man!
Thanks 🙏👍🏻
As an Indonesian from Jakarta, I have to say that the problem of congestion is very true. I use to go to a school in a town called BSD, which is about 30 minutes by highway from South Jakarta where I live, but it shares one of the most important highways around Jakarta. The traffic on this highway was so bad one day that a trip that would only take 30 minutes on a good day, took me *4 whole hours* and an average of 1 and a half hour ish on a normal day.
The traffic is bad, but the main problem is our policy on transportation more than population density. Everyone here (I'm also in JakSel) takes cars or motorbikes. The sidewalks are unsafe if they even exist, and a pedal bike is too dangerous. I love the BRT and train network, but there's just not enough routes. Transfers are sometimes a pain: the overhead walks at Semanggi and Kuningan take a while; Kebayoran has a train and a bus a few hundred meters apart, but there's no safe passage between; BRT exists on the inner ring, but not TB Simatupang, so a trip from Pasar Minggu to Kebon Jeruk that takes a car 30 minutes and almost no turns must be done in two hours and three transfers by transit.
kenapa harus memakai bahasa luar?
@@syderaz ya biar org luar jg bs ngerti situasi kita
@@syderaz kenapa nama akun anda harus pakai bahasa luar?
@@syderaz why not? this channel's audiences mostly speak english
i'm live in jakarta and you are right, there's a lot of issues here. i agree to move the capital city in Kalimantan, because jakarta is too crowded right now. hope this moving can make people spread out more and not centralized in Jakarta/Java it self
That was a particularly interesting show. I knew the Philippines had 7,107 islands. But, Indonesia has 17,000+ islands...never knew about that. Top it off with some of the most important sea lanes connecting Asia to the rest of the world and it and Mylasia has serious issues in the future. Even the Micro Center ad was interesting, but they are not in Florida. Happy Trails
Yeah that's a lot but still incomparable to the number of island Sweden have, 221,800 islands, damn.
IND0NES!A IT'S LARGEST ISLANDS C0UNTR!ES!!!
IND0NES!A M0RE 5 T!MES LAND C0MPARE W!TH JAPAN ISLANDS!!!
Cuz u don't know about indonesia 😌
Dolen mu kurang adoh, kopimu kurang pait lur..😅
I'm Indonesian and, meh... This country isn't that interesting. Try living here for 25 years, you'll see how 'interesting' it is.
As a former Microcenter employee of many years... I'm happy to see the ad spot! Even some of the footage had some of my old coworkers in it. Glad to see they are still kickin it!
As an Indonesian, and also lived in Java, I can confirm that this is true and precise, and i even learn some new information, Great Work!
Ive always thought that at least strategically, Chicago would make the best capital city for the US. Well inland from either coast, has well developed highway and railway infrastructure, and also has a large port.
St. Louis is more centrally located and is on major waterways. Also both sides can be made their own district.
@@jameswolf133 but the question is, does the us need so?
@@jameswolf133 but the question is, does the us need so?
It's hilarious that you not only switched Sydney and Melbourne, but placed them in totally different spots. I think "Sydney" is somehow magically located in Lakes Entrance
It's actually a pretty clever move by RealLifeLore.
The outrage about the Australian cities is pushing up the algorithm. So it makes sense to do it even on purpose.
Just see how he pinned the comment about the mix up.
Why Australian cities on a video about Indonesia?
Cause if it were Indonesian cities who got mistaken, nobody would give a s... .
Plus since Indonesia is right next to Australia, it is more likely to draw more attention from Australians and it's more likely to get reactions.
Obviously, his strategy bears fruit. 🙂
Plus he mispronounced the name of the Capital. It's CAN BRA, and not 'Camberra' like he said.
@@saintpinewood562 To be fair most people pronounce it like he does, it's wrong but just more instinctive in matching what's written.
@@xolang You assuming he did it on purpose rather than a stupid mistake is a stretch
Also he said that WW2 started in 1945 (which I think was a spelling error) and that 172 days is more than half of all of the year. You can do the math yourself, 365 : 2 equals 182,5
4:31 Great video! 👍😊 Just keep in mind that ASEAN is generally pronounced as ‘As-see-an’ and not ‘A-seen’.
At least it wasn't A-shawn
I live in Jakarta and despite the ecological breakdown this city has suffered, I can say that the land is very fertile. Anything can grow in this city and there is plenty of rain all year round besides the 13 rivers that flow through it. This is a waste of potential agricultural land to turn the area into a city. Jakarta could have been a productive plantation area.
No, jakarta isn't well suited for agriculture, the economy is centered toward service instead. Central java is more suitable.
thats what endless population growth does.
yeah bangkok too
Why is it fertile? you guys millions of people there poop and pee in the city distributing organic compound for the plants.
@@odjsjaks hah
Thanks. That was very interesting and informative.
Nice to hear my country to get a spotlight in the world especially in RLL! Thanks!
5:42 - Just to emphasize more on how far each of Indonesia's main islands are.
Philippines' southern main island to the northern main island takes 50+hrs by boat and 2.5+hrs by plane.
Which is as far as Jakarta to the new city location in Borneo, imagine how far those other 3 main islands are.
Thats why airplane tickets from Jakarta to east Indonesia are very expensive 😂, more expensive than Jakarta to Kuala Lumpur (Malaysia)
Equals from England to Afghanistan that is the size of Indonesia
fun fact, the span of Indonesia from east to west can cover the whole europe. the size you see on paper map doesnt show the real size. that's crazy.
@@urfavchickenlegs8797 lol, we already know that since grade school which is 28yrs ago. its called Mercator projection.
@@abuanwp you missed my point that's not the thing i was trying to emphasize 🥴
For those wondering Java is larger than Honshu (Japans main island with Tokyo etc). Has 104M v 145M
So interesting. I really enjoy learning about other countries and cultures, their histories and their geo-politics. The graphics just make it so more interesting. Thank you.
Indonesia and Jakarta are very interesting and amazing their culture and diversity is fantastic. Moving capital to another location is wise move.
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Please visit West Papua Island...Papuan different from other islands in Indonesia...😇😇🤗
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Kudos to RealLifeLore for producing this video *very* quickly. For context: the new National Capital Act was ratified by DPR (the lower house of Indonesia's parliament) literally *4 DAYS* ago!
PISS OFF. THEY GOT THE TWO BIGGEST AUSSIE CITIES MIXED UP. LAZY, SHOCKING LACK OF RESEARCH SKILLS.
The plans have been around for quite a while now, though.
@@Yora21 not quite "quite a while" tho, since the idea of moving capital city away from Jakarta has been planned since 1950s.
@@risannd that.. is precisely what "quite a while" means lol. Also my guess is RLL has been preparing this video for a while since there's no mention of the new capital's name in the video
@@DaZi19 trueeee damn lol
I don't know much about Indonesian politics but as a fellow south east asian, I envy that you have leaders that actually have the foresight to solve current and future possible problems.
Are you filipino?
Nah. It's does solve the problem but it's also cause more problems than solving it tbh
so excited to have found this channel
Another country in the process of moving their capital is Equatorial Guinea, theyre moving their current one (Malabo) to a city currently in construcion deep inside the country (Oyala/Ciudad de la Paz)
Yeah nice that some body also knows about this one. I has always seemed pretty odd to me to have capital on an Island while haveing most of country's landmass on the contonent
@@TravelsOutsideTheBox Well, don't most of their population live on said island? It makes sense to have your capital near your populational center.
During the Spanish empire when Spain first got the EQ. island of Bioko plus other small islands and part of the mainland coast, EQ. was administered from Bueno Aires Argentina. Spain took over administration once Argentina declared Independence. Spain use to administer the islands and mainland separately. Both have different ethnic groups. Spain in time united both and then gave them independence after being pressured by the UN. That time they did not know there were huge reserves of oil off waters of the main island of Bioko. So economically that island is important. But this oil wealth has caused Bioko original ethnic group to be overwhelmed by the ethnic groups coming from the more populated mainland. This explains why some want independence for there island. When it comes to oil on the mainland, it seems it still needs to be discovered.
thank you, useful explanation about the facts of Indonesia, especially in the capital city of Jakarta. I am amazed by how detailed your research was in making this video.
The matter of moving the capital city of Indonesia from Jakarta to Kalimantan is indeed the right effort. As a resident of Jakarta, I often experience common problems in this capital city. Traffic problems, environment, population, health, education, etc.
However, relocating the nation's capital to the island of Borneo, which contains large amounts of combustible peatlands, increases the risk of forest fires and has a significant negative impact on the environment. In addition, moving the capital city does not guarantee that environmental problems in Jakarta will be resolved.
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I can vouch for the traffic from Bogor to Jakarta. I lived in Cibubur, Bogor for 2 months and it was terrible. Even to move around within Bogor. We missed an important business meeting, the reason for us to be in the country due to traffic, at 8 am.. This coming from a person who lived in Bangalore for years which has the worst traffic in all of India... 😑
Edit- some people asking to use public transport. 6 of us were in a Grab taxi. This incident is from 3 years ago. We certainly didn't have our own cars as expats on short term visit..
Well, from someone that has lived in bogor for 16 years, im absolutely delighted that they gonna try to solve the issues in jakarta, cause every problem in jakarta will indirectly affect the greater surrounding area of jabodetabek (jakarta, bogor, depok, tanggerang, bekasi)
Last week i rode a motorbike from Depok west java from 06.15AM and reach Pancoran south Jakarta at 07.55. can you believe that? It took another half hour to reach my destination in Cakung east Jakarta.
you can just call gojek
sounds like it needs to seriously revamp its public transit
@@andreas4010 Indonesia is Anti Public transit. They're so materialistic they want to be seeing as rich and wealthy people so they bought private vehicle instead. With easyness and cheap Down Payment,even the low income can have their own vehicle. It's too American Centric.
That was a great show, thank you.
Great video! Even as an Indonesian, I learn more about my country. Just a quick note that as a Bogor resident you can go to Jakarta in less than 1 hour depending on where you live. But the mind-blowing thing is that in a rush hour it could take more than 2 hours. It shows how bad the congestion is.
Crazy to think that Microsoft spent more on a gaming company than Indonesia will on a massive seawall that will host its own population and also a completely new capital on a different island.
Priorities
Microsoft is richer than so many countries.
We were initially colonized not by the Dutch but a Dutch *company*
Watch the video, there are vontroversies about the wall, so they have to think about it again.
Indonesia is a very poor country
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Thank you for the video. Even I am an Indonesian, I learned a lot from your video. Hope this moving the capital city to Kalimantan, will improve the life of Indonesian
At first the design was released and contested, I was optimistic about what the new capital would be: modern and smart city, good public transportation and smart infrastructure rather than some private-made cities (i.e. BSD, Alam Sutera, PIK, Meikarta) which are a car-centric cities. But then the study from the government released and it was viral on Twitter, shows how unprepared the government to move the capital and plenty of 'fabricated' reasons, mostly talking about social and ideologic reason, which rather unscientific. The document itself does not explain the cost and benefit, risk from disaster and how it would affect the natural environment of Kalimantan.
I do not against this capital city movement. As I have read the document, I'm afraid it will not just move the capital, but also the problems.
I have been to Jakarta way back 2012 and met my Indonesian twitter friends (I stayed in Jakarta Pusat). They're still my friends and we keep in touch up to this day. Indonesia has rich culture, amazing food, breathtaking nature, and lovely people. I think Indonesia is perfect except for one thing: corruption in the government.
Clarification point re: Canberra - the disagreements over its location actually happened in the late-1800s through to 1911/1912. The dispute was resolved before Federation (in 1901) - because it was written into the constitution - by deciding that the new capital would be located on land that was within New South Wales, but that until that new city was ready, Melbourne would be the temporary capital. The 1927 date is just when the official change of capital happened.
Indonesia is a really beautiful country. It really sucks to see it become devastated by global warming and rising sea levels, hopefully they do move the capital and keep the country going.
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Or they should have control they rising population.
One could argue that by moving the capital, they are a just dumping toxic waste (i.e. the politicians) on a new area... But that is probably not completely accurate... More like *sewage* considering the ideas that most politicians come up with...
Sea levels can only sink North Jakarta, do u guy think Entire Jakarta 😂Go to map n learn more,here new capital = Politic
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It's going to move its civil employees outside Java but the unused building in jakarta will be rented to private sectors, meaning there would be no population reduction. Civil employess in Jakarta will just be simply replaced by private ones.
Yes, there are no direct correlations between moving capital city with de-urbanization. Those two should be given their own proper programs
That’s true but with a significant enough portion of people moving to the new city it will open up new job opportunities there which will allow other people to move there. The more people who move there the more job opportunities for other people to move there. I’m sure many people from Jakarta will be looking for a way to move there since they don’t want their homes to sink.
Yes, that's the idea. Just like New York and Washington DC
We can all agree that reallifelore never disappoints us
And his voice is so smooth but has gravitas
can we all agree that "We can all agree" template is fucking unfunny and getting overused af?thanks
the sing-song narration usually drives me away long before the video is over.
@@UnkownUA-camr286 where's the content?
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This is actually a good move for the Indonesian president to moved the capital in Borneo.
Not only geologically safe from volcanic activity since this island doesn't have any.
But also sit facing Sulawei, along other islands that could weakened any potential storms from taking too much damages in the area.
My only concern is the ecological system in the regions.
As we know, cities that are built in a nearby flourishing fauna and flora is always the caused for massive destruction and extinction of many species.
Borneo with sparse population have a large dense vegetation that is home to many animals included endangered species. Moving the capital with reckless pursuit will just end up decimating the ecosystem.
But as I know, humans think first with their own rather caring the wildlife around.
You can build cities relatively sustainably (assuming you're not massively deforesting) if you at least attempt to make it green and use renewable energy. The issue is Indonesia as a developing country uses coal and has a serious problem with car centrism. A new capital will surely grow quickly so they should pre-plan some sort of metro system before they start building residences and look into non-coal power plants.
Actually the area was former coal mines concessions so not jungle. Around 94 mines sites in the capital city area.
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That's because public transportation is so unreliable.
Safety, speed, coverage, frequency, comfort, and punctuality is really lacking.
@@friedec3622 The reason why Jakarta's public transport (or any other big cities in Indonesia) cannot be built properly is because the corrupt goverment official didn't enact the zoning inside the city core correctly. This makes commercial and residential intermixed with each other which in turn make placing each station of public transport a very difficult task. Additionally, we tended to live on a landed house rather than low rise appartment which make the population density of an area not justiable to have it's own stops in public transport. Even more so, the easy access to private means of transportation makes people less attracted to public transport.
@@bphoxx At least Jakarta's public transport kind of works. For the love of god i can't go to school efficiently and cost friendly. Depok's sucks.
Indonesia, which has contemplated the idea for decades, would be the third country in Southeast Asia to relocate their capital cities. ... Widodo, known as Jokowi, said the relocation will of the most-populous island of Java and narrow its income gap with the rest of the country
some thing interesting: borneo is the third largest island in the world and the main island on the Sunda Shelf. Mount Kinabalu, the highest peak in the Southeast Asian archipelago, is not actually in Indonesia. It rises to 13,455 feet (4,101 metres) in the northeastern corner of the island, in the Malaysian state of Sabah. Otherwise, the island’s relief seldom exceeds an elevation of 5,600 feet (1,700 metres), and most of the island lies below 1,000 feet (300 metres). Structural trends are not as well-defined as on adjacent islands, although a broad mountain system (which includes Mount Kinabalu) runs roughly from northeast to southwest. Kalimantan, which constitutes about three-fourths of the island, consists mostly of undulating lowlands, with alluvial swamps near the coast and forest-covered mountains in the deep interior.
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8:26 We were driving to South Jakarta from Cikanyere (to the South East between Jakarta and Bandung) once in 2019..
We left at 2pm, and arrived by midnight. It took 10 hours. (It was raining heavily which caused a lot of traffic)
And I come from an Australian city, which are usually pretty big, and so ~30km is a fairly common distance to drive. But here it'll take only about an hour, if traffic is heavy.
It was certainly a very new experience for me..
Welcome to the very congested Java island hahaha. As a tip from an Indonesian citizen, next time you want to travel that far, you should leave at the morning, around 5 am preferably. It'll save you 3-4 hours at minimum.
@@crystallizedsyrup7594 Haha, that's good advice. I was going to my uncle's house back then, actually he was the one driving.
Sebenarnya keluarga saya juga dari Indonesia, tapi Semarang, Jawa Tengah..
Cuma saya tidak pernah tinggal di Indonesia.. born and raised in Australia.
We're planning to go back this December, if it's safe to do so, with the pandemic and everything.
Planning to go back this December if it is safe to do so, with the pandemic and everything.
you might want to learn how to ride a motorcycle if you haven't. It will be useful when you need to go not too far away, but as quick as possible.
My longest Jakarta-Bandung road trip took around 8 arounds which was insane to me. The new high speed rail is set to open at the end of this year (hopefully) and that will cut travel times to just 40 minutes. Even the current train service takes around 2 hours and 30 minutes which is roughly the same as a car trip (a car trip without traffic obviously)
Tip: Drive to the nearest KCI (commuter train) station, leave your vehicle there and take the train instead.
From neutral perspective (not pros and cons of politics), I think I agree with the concept
Jakarta is too "Jakarta centric" and Java is too "Java centric", most mindset of people think to get "Good Life" is going to Jakarta, which this still makes issues in the future.
By moving capital to other places (doesn't have to be on Kalimantan, but Kalimantan also good option), i hope the issues for long term potential problem and wealth can be solved very well
still java-centric, they don't discuss the name of the capital more deeply and carefully, the name is even derived from Sanskrit, not Indonesian at all.
But isn't moving the capital city will just makes the problems move to borneo?
I think moving the capital city is useless if the economic centers and essential infrastructures are still in java
@@HH-he4pw yes i am also agree with the arguments of that, from reality perspective also there are more things to consider
this is an amazing video, the presentation and facts really add to my insight. we can see that moving the capital is a common occurrence in many countries. the goal is of course to get a strategic place for the smooth running of the state. Kalimantan may indeed be very strategic if we look at the facts above, but keep in mind that by making Kalimantan the capital of the country, we will sacrifice the purity of nature, ethnicity and local culture, and the government must be able to maintain that local wisdom. Do not let the effort to make a strategic center of government just get rid of the beauty that already exists. It is also important to remember that forest fires in Kalimantan are rife, and the consequences are very wide in other parts of Indonesia. this is even very difficult to overcome, will the government be able to overcome this if Kalimantan becomes the capital of Indonesia?
wrong ... can't even get Sydney and Melbourne located correctly
actually in history Indonesian Government planned to move the capital 3 times. First in Soekarno President era where Soekarno planned to move capital to city of Palangkaraya in Central Kalimantan. The second one in Soeharto President era where Soeharto planned to move capital to Jonggo rural district in northeast of Bogor
I think the video was trying to say that this is the first time the capital would be moved, not the first attempt at moving the capital.
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I'm from Myanmar. The capital could easily have been moved back to Mandalay, the former capital of Myanmar before the British colonized it. Would have been a lot more economical since most of the infrastructure is already there. It was a massive waste of money and resources to move the capital to Naypyitaw.
it's the military regime that moves it
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One of the most useful video i’ve ever seen. Great explaination with awesome visualization.
Here is my thoughts about moving the capital city. As an indonesian myself, it’s been quiet interesting thinking about our government decided to moving the capital city from Jakarta (Java Island) to Nusantara (Borneo Island) which planned to be the new capital city of indonesia. But the planning to moving the capital city from Jakarta to Nusantara was kinda interesting desicion. The government wants to make Jakarta as a metropolitan city which why it’s going to become the economic center, and nusantara become the central government. Also the good thing we hope that this desicion is going to make significant change and more evenly. Borneo has such a great criteria as place to move the capital city of Indonesia. First, Borneo is the center island in indonesia, they think it represents about justice. Second, It doesn’t has that much active volcano and earthquack were rarely happen. Third, Borneo considered has low potential to social conflict happen. They also have open culture towards newcomers.
Aside from that, moving the capital city from Jakarta is a smart desicion to reduce the crowds of population. As far as i know, Jakarta been the most crowded city i’ve ever been.
But there is also bad consequence by moving the capital city. It can be risking forest fire and several significant environment impact.
As a former historical tour guide specialized in Jakarta City, i got some things to say.
Jakarta was and never was meant to be perfect for a country's capital city.
Even when Indonesia still under dutch rule, alot of dutch politicians considering to move the capital city Jakarta (then batavia) to somewhere else, especially after the 17th century and the massive malaria and water pollutions in the city. But rather move it to other place, the dutch decides just expands Batavia to the south and abbonden the old Batavia.
And after the independence, even our president back then considers to move the capital city.
When it comes to water and floodings problems, it have existed since the dutch control. And it was the dutch who mades the clean underground water pumping project. But sadly we just realised the problem with underground water pumping now... And it is called sinking ground.
Not a big fan on the current president nor i care, but its a good move to move our capital city. I mean lets be real.
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May I ask why you dont like the current president?
@@sethshiro3487 idk, im not into politics that much. Indonesia's politics is a huge pile of mess filled with evil and whatever it is despite right or left wing. But i dont hate the president, i respect him but i just dont care much. Aka just bye.
@@satyawirasenajaputra9888 same with malaysia bro, i feel you. politicians are evil here as well. MY
Kinda cool to see this being uploaded! I did an assignment in university about the sinking of Jakarta and the possibility of a relocation.
Awesome knowledgeable video. Thanks for sharing :)