My geography class had an assignment once, we had to build a road in Africa that connected roughly thirty countries, taking into account natural geography and political bounderies. I failed because I completely forgot, and just drew a line from Cairo to Johannesburg. The Saudis too, failed this geography project.
That makes me laugh, reminds me of when I was a little kid learning Currency. "Make 27.60$ with the fewest bills and coins possible" I put down *27$ bill and 60cent coin. My teacher was not amused
How in the world did they think this would only cost 200 billion? This is the first time I am hearing if it and my first thought was "2 trillion is probably a little low".
I assume it's just there to provide infinite fake economic activity. Kind of like China with their ghost cities that only exist to artificially inflate their gdp. The Saudis are going to be doing all kinds of crazy stuff to maintain their standing as the only money spout gets closer to running dry.
The companies contracted to build it are probably aware that the Saudi royalty is fucking stupid. So they can straight up lie by telling them a price, knowing it'll cost a fuck ton more. And once the project has tons of funding and hype, they'll just keep giving them money to finish instead of cutting their losses
Right. The fact he thinks he can recreate the same impact with this as the pyramid is outrageous and disrespectful. Egypt wasn’t even desert when the pyramids were built💀 No amount of money will ever give you the true value of the pyramid. They can call it a chamber. But we all know the truth, you don’t build over a hot spring and think mfers ain’t gon ask questions. Nikola Tesla did that for us, and they took it all away.
I typically scroll through comments as the beginning of a video plays to see if it's generally worth it or not. In hindsight, this comment is much more funny after watching the entire video!
@@painithin Not really possible. SOMEONE has to cook and serve food, do maintenance, cleaning, fire fighting, run the checkout, security, doctors, nurses, psychiatrists, etc. It can't be just every person is disgustingly wealthy and doesn't have to work.
@@laius6047people have done interviews with those behind designing these things (anonymously for their safety) and it is legitimately a matter of: Dictator wants new ego fueled mega project, you've got like three days to throw something together. Don't really about reality or cost or anything, just make a flashy presentation so he doesn't take your head
If humanity wants to advance, they will have to do project way more difficult than this. While I strongly believe this project will not be finished in my lifetime (if it would ever be finished at all), it’s better for a country with too much money to try than other countries.
Dude im imagining if instead of using all that machinery to make a line, instead it was utilized to make an extensive network of berms and swales; to hold onto the rain that occasionally goes into the areas. It could turn the desert into grasslands. The area receives alot of water but has no mechanism (biological or geological) to retain it; so it runs off/evaporates.
This sounds like something I tried to build in Sim City when I was 15. I thought cities with grid systems were ugly and tried to build everything off one road in a single straight line. I quickly realized that having a single road made traffic impossible and my citizens kept complaining about the commute. Someone should buy MBS a copy of Sim City 3000. I think that might help him a lot.
that streamer is RTGame, who somehow managed to make it "kind of work" (within the game anyway) with the aforementioned blimps whether the blimps would actually work in a real life setting, well, someone should donate a few trillion to RTGame to play City Skylines in real life
Maybe they want to build an artificial River, Therefore straight line. who knows, that's not my money, who am i to judge, and can't say that those expensive Civil Engineers and Architects who work in the project are all Dumb as well, i'm sure they hired a world class people to work on the project. maybe there are a lot of thing that we didn't know about the project, it's too soon to judge i would rather eat my popcorn and watch them trying their best, than to be salty, negative and dooming everything for no reason
Imagine: if Saudi Arabia actually empowered their citizens and spent 2 trillion on education and scientific research and development rather than flushing it down the toilet like this, they could become one of the most advanced and sophisticated countries in the world. Instead, their oil will run out and they will become a failed impoverished country in a matter of decades. My heart breaks for them.
No theocracy is ever going to become a beacon of enlightenment or societal development. Even secular domecracies have trouble with religious encroachment in matters of social progress (Roe V Wade in the US, for example). A country ruled from the top down with Islamic "values" and rules unilaterally applied to the less powerful portion of the population is destined for failure and impoverishment, eventually...
Or as a Saudi myself we could vote and choose our fate and future! you won't see BS projects like this but for now we just sit and watch our wealth being thrown away and stolen I can't wait forr us to get the right chance to change the reality and become able to choose our leader and judge the leader without facing disapearing in jails or being killed!
It's quite the opposite. They know the world is trying to shift away from oil that's why they are desperately trying other ways to diversify their economy. They are even funding e-sport tournaments now.
@@KingNugget420 is that a justification or just an explanation? Dubai looks like shit lol, its extremely overpriced, the quality of the buildings and infrastructure does NOT match the prices charged for simply 'being cool, being Dubai'. Many massive buildings and projects sit half built, being a complete eyesore ever since 2009 crisis, have no recovered yet.
The high speed train is so stupid. If you need to stop about every minute, due to the population densitily, on a singular line, the train will never be able to build up enough speed. High speed trains make sense between cities, not as localised public transportation.
Tell Gavin "Grusome" Newsome that in Calif. We are wasting 250 billion on a high speed train that nobody will ride. Better off spending that cash on water infrastructure and road reconditioning.
The train would be irrelevant to nearly all residents: The would be trapped in their '5 minute area' want to get out? Remember that AI surveillance system? The Line is a globalists wet dream.
I firmly disagree. Not only human history repeats again and again, there already is another bigger waste of money (and lives) going on: The Russian assault of the Ukraine. If Russia is not giving up on this madness, it will cost Russia a few times more than the entire cost of Neom! Also we cannot leave a chance for Russia to win, as this will rise the cost to a multitude of that. Hence what do you want? Russia to pay the bill or us all to pay an even far bigger bill? The estimated cost of the Ukrainian war in lifes, material and economy losses is estimated to be near 500 billion US$. For Russia alone. Per year! So this already exceeds the waste of Neom! On a global scale I think the global losses are more near the 1 trillion US$ mark. Per year, again! If Ukraine falls, the cost of what happens then (China tries to take Taiwan etc. etc. etc.) will rise the cost even higher. So AFAICS the best way to cut costs would be to enable the Ukraine to win against Russia ASAP and clearly state, that we, the global community, do not tolerate any behavior like that exposed by Russia. Regardless how big or small you are. That would be the sapient way. However humankind is far from acting sapient. I know, as I am German. Our global car sales drop. So we need to compensate. As the 5th biggest producer of weapons in the world, the solution is very easy: Head back to the 3rd place ..
I'm surprised this is even a thing. When I first saw an ad for this, I thought it was a scam designed to trick people into spending money on a project that didn't exist. This is so much dumber.
There actually were people willing to do so and he had them killed, like that guy who went on foreign tv to say this wasn't such a good idea and then died in an embassy. This isn't due to the cowardice of the people around their leader, it is from the unrestrained power of a tyrant who sees any response other than "yes sir" as an act of treason.
I see more of a political issue than most. Having something noteworthy in far flung corners makes a statement to neighbors both countries and citizens that would like to spin off on their own. Space is a precious resource in a shrinking globe. Squatters are an emerging problem, even crisis in some places.
@@bluewater4 Space is literally NOT a "precious resource". There's so much space and the entirety of humanity is located in cities. This project is absolutely dumb beyond belief. Imagine having a traffic accident in the "rail" or the "flying taxi". "Woops! Looks like you'll be late to work for the next.... 8 hours. Also another one of your coworkers died."
If that little line city was a property for sale listed by a real estate agent then even Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos net worth combined can not afford that in both of their entire lifetimes. Even the billionaires can't afford it at all!!!
@@CT-7731 It's not possible to sell the whole company, all the shares at the same time for the same price, since different people own different share quantities. If someone sells 20% of NVidia in one deal, the shares would collapse and the company will not worth much. Jen-Hsun Huan owns only 0.21% of all outstanding shares
Those drone taxis aren’t happening lmao. You need to generate enough downward force to cancel out your mass to fly. Look up a video of a helicopter taking off to see how much wind that would create lol.
@@beardupbeerdown7355 helicopters are vtols, vtol jets are even worse lmao there’s a reason the US doesn’t use them anymore even on aircraft carriers where it would seem to make sense
Neglecting the Fact NY took DECADES and still has constant adjustments. NEOM also ignores Urban Planning 101. You cannot plan a whole city in advance, it never works.
And unlike say Las Vegas, there is no real reason for people to go there. People flocked to Vegas because it was a remote location free from any laws against gambling and vices. Saudi Arabia is the opposite of that.
@@triplemoyagames4195they did create Canberra as a planned city for Australia’s capital though, and it works fine. Perhaps wasn’t planned as deeply as NEOM but it was planned.
Actually, comparing it to the pyramids is very apt. A hyper wealthy monarch, using a very large portion of their country’s resources purely to display their own vanity. Only difference now is that they’re asking the people to actually live in the pyramid.
Yeah I agree, the comparison is fair. I'm sure many people at the time said the pyramids "couldn't be built" but they got it done anyways by throwing a massive amount of resources at it. The difference here is, this project I don't think will actually get done, because unlike the pyramids, once it's built it needs constant maintenance and upkeep so people can live there... in the desert, far from any source of fresh water, this thing somehow needs to support 9 million people.
It's not vanity! It isn't about "look at me" stuff, it's about monarchy safe guarding when oil money is no more. That part was made clear in the video.
@@jkfang They just got lots of money. Their economy run mostly by oil. And oil is not unlimited. Many countries relied too much on oil have already fail economically. They may be next if they found no alternative.
@@jkfang wouldn't say infinite money cheat, more like they just did the "lotta money" code a few hundred times... But the day will come the realize they lost the controller 🎮 and can't find a replacement.
Dystopian is right. All of these megacity projects and those who shill for them make me nervous. After all, the whole rap about "you have everything you ever need right here, there's no need to leave" is only a Mississippi half-step away from "you're not allowed to leave," which is the ulterior motive I see written all over ideas of this kind.
So what you’re saying is that a monarch had a self-aggrandizement fueled idea that has the potential to bankrupt his kingdom? Wow. Never heard of that.
@@Cajek2 it's not a bad idea, you just need to spend about 100 years of Saudi's annual GDP, wait for a bunch technology that doesn't exist yet and ignore common sense and all the fundamentals of urban planning.
yes i am one of this worker ۔ south asia is very poor in pakistan salary is 25 thousands ruppe if someone working in line project salary will be 4000 reyal it is 280000 it is one year salary in pakistan ۔ that is why poor south work here happily
Well they need to work harder because the project is behind schedule.. I'd start by giving them 12 hour shifts.. and if that doesn't work I'd stop break times.. if that doesn't work pay cuts.. then it would be a stick with pointy metal end to get them to move faster.. and just continuously improve upon the technique.. I have this project ahead of schedule and under budget.. its just lack management skills..
Foreign contractors and construction companies must have been salivating at this proporsal. "Oh absolutely, we'll get it done, just wire us the money" Knowing damn well it will never see the light of day.
The real geniuses are the architects and construction companies who has somehow finessed Saudi Arabia into a continous 20-50 year project. I'm convinced this project will keep going until the money runs out.
@@amblincorkno one is going to want to consistently live there especially when it's still being built which it will be for the rest of are lives, only it won't because they'll have to massively downsize once the cost outpaces what they could take on
@@dommysprite3771 You dont seem to understand how residtnial constirction projects work...I moved into my own home when nearby houses were still being constructed....that is very common
"It's a great idea if you think about it. If the first building is in the worst location, it would make sense to put the next building a little further away from that location. This process would repeat, and the city would naturally form a line as it tries to get away from itself" - Patrick Boyle
There's absolutely nothing strange about building a lined city across the desert. This entire video is heckling ... the Saudis building a city? They're already doing it. What's it matter? So why was there 50 references to them hating Israel, and gay people? This is propaganda funded by AIPAC I would be willing to bet. Over, and over, and over again they keep dropping messages with a voice of insane contempt and ridicule against Saudis as "the most evil and ruthless people, AAAND they hate Israel and love Israel's enemies!" We are America, not Israel. And Israel also hates gay people so let's stop buying that propaganda that they've ever legalized or socially accepted them; they allow democratic parades that sometimes include gays, but they have never given them social acceptance and relationship rights. This entire video was a giant political propaganda hit piece, attacking Americans as if this is our business and as if Israel is our Lord and Savior and Congress - merely because Saudi Arabia is ... Building a town across the desert. Yeah, keep your Israeli media out of America
The Line feels like the perfect setting for a dystopian city where you cant leave because the desert will consume you, or so you are told. Then a band of rebellious teens do make it out and find out that they live under a authoritarian techno monarchy while the rest of the world isn't a wasteland but a thriving system of city states or something.
This structure would be interesting as far as weather goes. A huge linear barrier that will be shaded on the north side and the “mirror” that would excessively heat up the ground by the south side. It might actually help create clouds and shade but could also create lots of sand storms
I'm a structural engineer, currently working on adding a wind wall to an existing industrial park. The biggest problem by far is the wind forces. Though the wall isn't too expensive itself, it's going to require a lot of concrete to anchor itself so the whole thing doesn't topple over. It's only about 80 feet tall, and it's not built on top of a damn sandy desert. Also, there's not half of an entire city hanging off of one side of it to further tip the balance of forces. If a single engineer greenlights any of this thing's drawings, he should be stripped of his title and seal.
Like the Tom Cruise story - you get a safety guy to help you do a stunt, he says it can't be done - mmm - So you get a new safety Guy to help you do a stunt.🤪 Money given not earnt spawns this kind of insanity.
Even at that considerably smaller size there is very little chance it would be prosperous enough to support any growth. It would be a constant drain of $$ on the rest of the country as these new urban planning ideas would probably require higher than expected maintenance costs on infrastructure and the renewable energy that is supposed to be used won’t support the population as the technology isn’t there yet.
This is the major issue with new cities built in the Middle East. Build it and they’ll come, Is the only motto. But what if people don’t come? Usually great cities are slowly built up by the congregation of people organically coming together, bringing their talents and cultures and making the city alive
Not a fan of this Saudi project but as an urban designer, there's a type of city called a "planned city", indicating cities intentionally designed before construction begins to ensure efficient layout, infrastructure, and amenities. There are many successful examples of planned cities worldwide; however, the site selection and harsh climate of Neom made it insanely costly and credulous.
Agreed that 10km would be more manageable than 170km but you are ignoring all of the other many reasons why it won't work and why it shouldn't happen. It is utter madness and absolutely criminal to waste so much money like this.
And it's being proposed as some grand, world changing tourist trap, when it's just a theme park with no rides. Like, his grand animatronic dinosaur park is literally just a T-Rex Cafe, but without food.
It would be cheaper and more realistic to populate it with actual dinosaurs than it would be to build this city. You could probably relocate a medium sized city to the surface of the moon, brick by brick, with this amount of money.
Well, there are a small number of exceptions, caused by natural obstacles, but none of them are a *single* line like this (And they also developed rather naturally)
Artificial cities have never once ever worked to my knowledge, China built a shitload of them and most have been razed to the ground within a decade because nobody ever actually moved into them. People naturally move to where the geography and opportunity provides a good place to be, you can’t just create that out of thin air especially in a desert with nothing to offer anyone but oil money that will eventually run out
It faced a huge problem after Mohammed bin Salmans Corruption Purge. It's a really complicated process. It doesn't have anything to do with money or power. Just some paperwork stuff. Don't overcomplicate it.
Even with Infinite Money turned on, this would still be a failure in a city simulator. How is emergency services going to function in a city like this? Let alone goods transport.
Exactly lets say train lines need to be repaired and some stuff is at other end how you gonna get that stuff By train BUT THE TRAIN IS UNDER MAINTENANCE @@MarvinPowell1
Nor have they played anything like factorio or things in that vein. For things like SimCity and the factory style games making a linear city/map is literally a challenge run. I have a feeling they didn't talk to any engineers or builders. The most charitable response I've ever heard is "you could probably do it with enough money".
@@MarvinPowell1 How do you grow food for 9 million people? Do they even know how much land is needed to feed 1 million people for a year? There should be no imports since the idea is that it'll be 100% self-sufficient when it comes to food, power and water. WATER!
Lol was gonna point that out, it's a country-spanning solar laser beam, but hey, if you're the big man at the head of the city, doesn't really matter what the people on the outside feel I guess
I am actually a huge supporter of this project. I hope MBS continues to build it. I can think of no better way to piss away the entire wealth fund and lower his influence on the world stage
Yeah I didn't realize it was already this much of a disaster. I thought it would just die like all crazy ideas do in the planning or barely begun stage.
All of this 500m tall 170km wide with high speed railway and jurassic park shit sounds like something my little cousin would tell me about during a family gathering, not a monarchy leader
It's like someone heard the phrase "the shortest distance between 2 points is a straight line" but had absolutely no understanding of geometry beyond that.
The circle seems like something that could actually work and would actually achieve everything the line wants to achieve. This isn’t even stupid, it’s so far beyond that. It’s a genius level of planning to determine the worst possible course of action.
The stupidest thing about The Line is: If there's two other things Saudi has a LOT of (after oil) it's tons of empty space and year-round bright sunlight. They could easily become the world leader in pioneering solar energy. They could open a space port. They could invest in renewable energy and do something about climate change. But instead they're making a modern Kowloon Walled City surveillance state in the middle of nowhere for no clear reason other than badly copying Dubai's homework with "lol cool megaproject." And even Dubai's projects had some point or purpose (land reclamation, geoengineering, tripling their coastline, tourism, etc) even if they didn't always work. tl;dr There's literally no reason for The Line to exist. It's dumb even by Elon Musk standards.
There’s a lot that goes into wondering how this would even function. Strong winds on a wide/flat faced object seem horrible due to basic understanding of how wind works. The lines of skyscrapers (from what I’m getting from this) would be very vulnerable to any most forms of destructive force, like explosives. Just sounds like a bad idea all around, but then again it’s their money, I’d hope they have ideas in store on how to mitigate those issues. The renewable energy idea wouldn’t work, it would honestly cost them an equally ridiculous amount of money to set up enough renewable energy to power the city, possibly more money than the city itself. Renewable sources are not efficient at all, they’d need nuclear or fossil fuel energy.
their iq, look at statistics, even the conflict tormented Iraq, is higher, why? mesopotamian DNA and their education, with this statement, UAE seems to go the same way as saudia arabia, money going on the wrong things.
Even Dubai projects were kind of stupid. They dredged up millions of tons of sand from the depths and absolutely decimated any aquatic ecosystems in their path only to build a tacky world island archipelago that can’t even sustain any buildings because island aren’t just a bunch of sand dunes sticking out of the water. Islands actually have a foundation that plants and buildings can anchor themselves to. But even this line makes Dubai mega projects seem genius in comparison.
@@therealspeedwagon1451 i'd easily argue, UAE's projects were much worse and also alot less ethical, they just paid engineers, architects to help with projects and they also paid poor people from south asia to build the projects for less than a cent a month, dubai is terrible i can never see myself residing there.
No, it highlights how insanely wealthy these people are that they can just blow it on a dumb project like this just to try and show off and make their mark.
Because people have realized that it's literally the worst tourist trap possible, a lot of dirty shit has come out about it, including the Instagram influencer experiences.
I'll be from the food court borough. We call it McDo Square. That prince boy probably saw some new fancy shopping mall and went: "Why can't people live here? I"ll make it in mega version! And if that fails, we'll have a new prison to house those pesky modern activists."
120 kilometers is not "whopping" for 9 million people crammed in there. Diseases, lack of fresh air, this is someone's nightmare come alive! Holy shizer
I never thought about it, but the ring sounds like such a cool idea. It feels like this one guy accepting this one small patch could have led to a wildly different outcome.
their iq, look at statistics, even the conflict tormented Iraq, is higher, why? mesopotamian DNA and their education, with this statement, UAE seems to go the same way as saudia arabia, money going on the wrong things.
@@blurglide You're right, i'm from Iraq and look what religious lunatics did to the country after the us invaded, but yes, just blame everything on the west right?
@@M.sami12 yeah, they will design something for you if you pay them enough. And truth be told, 80% of the "design team" are concept artists... probably because most of the engineers they spoke to couldn't stop laughing long enough to pick up a pencil.
Asteroid mining would unironically crash the entire global economy. There are rocks up there that contain several orders of magnitude more gold and platinum than humans have extracted in the past 200k years COMBINED.
It's not *that* impractical, plenty of line-like towns were built along rivers and railroad tracks, this is just way, way bigger and way, way less practical because there's no resources nearby
@@cyclesaviorn2700 I assume the plan was to recycle as many resources as possible, limiting expense, and then use oil money to buy overseas companies, have those companies make all the actual wealth, and ship the profits back home. As far as what jobs people would do in the city? Probably managing the recycling and travel infrastructure, call center work/remote advisory, executive positions at said overseas companies, that kind of thing
@@bobthegamingtaco6073 thank you! That makes way more sense than trying to run any sort of large scale manufacturing mining or production facilities in a real scale to actually support such a large city economically
By the way the Eiffel Tower which has a vast amount of metal it’s only 309 meters high, this city would be a constant wall of 500 meters high for 170km long, this is how big stupid this idea is!
Why not make it 50 m tall. Every 2 m you can built a 100m tower. Etc. Every 20m you can build a 150m tower. As needed you can double the wall height to 100m
@@Justice4trump bro they are dumb! If the Arabs want to do something actually special they would be investing in space! A city in space is actually more viable, or putting money to make the ISS bigger! Anyways…
their iq, look at statistics, even the conflict tormented Iraq, is higher, why? mesopotamian DNA and their education, with this statement, UAE seems to go the same way as saudia arabia, money going on the wrong things.
@@ihdiadgdhwbad1 yeah right you solved it body. you went straight to eugenics 🤣 it has nothing to do with iq a dictator desperately trying to build a grandiose legacy by building big things is not a new thing and it has nothing to do with iq.
@@ihdiadgdhwbad1UAE started the dumb trend of burning things on stupid projects and unfortunately it worked out for them(ignoring the failures) so Saudi is gonna follow them
@@sharequsman596 I dont know honestly, us arabs are the most ignorant, indoctrinated people on earth, from religion to false narratives that we're fed.
The Line will have two classes of people, assuming it actually is completed. The rich people, who will be maybe 10% of the population, and the rest will be imported foreign workers. The rich folks will get the benefit of all the bells and whistles, and the workers will be essentially slaves, not allowed to leave their sections, watched by surveillance 24/7/365, and given a bare minimum of wages.
As a population geneticist, 33:30 is my immediate criticism of The Line that most other content creators fail to include. I am glad you pointed it out 🙌
I mean, he was raised in a palace and has always had servants who will do anything for him. He literally believes God gave him his title. And you expect someone raised like that to understand (let alone sympathize) with the plight of the common person?
@@AchkahklToday I learned Islam is the reason Jeff Bezos overworks his employees so much they pee in bottles. /s Don't kid yourself. This is just what happens when wealth and greed for more wealth corrupts the ruling class
@@lao5610 Well said, Just imagine how much humanity can progress with that kind of money in medicine and engineering but no dictator want fancy architectures !
@@FrontRowSeatToEarth If people judged Saudi Arabia's friendliness and intelligence solely based on you, they would likely be disappointed. Hopefully, that's not the case. The OP wasn't comparing Fyre Festival to Saudi Arabia, but rather referencing a similar failed attempt related to this specific project.
I honestly wish I was the architectural firm behind this , just sucking money off of some monarchy with an impossible project that I say will take decades so .. they can’t blame me if it isn’t done in 10 years , is multi generational, THIS IS THE BEST SCAM EVER
This city made the "kingdom" more fragile. The way the people of saudi arabia see their ruling family is "we don't get a say, but we end up getting a very good standard of living". The ability of the house of saud to continue to provide their part of that pact was very much weakened by this stu pid city and the gigantic expense.
At best it looks like a scheme to get money into the hands of the Royal Family members the Crown Prince favors. Of course there are other places they can live if it all falls apart.
@@Hatecrewdethroli live here and no I wouldnt lol if you have money its actually a great place to live, especially in Jeddah which is rapidly modernizing
I honestly believe that it’s not going to be finished , and instead a normal town/city will be built , which would also struggle to find residents , similar to Egypt’s new capital city.
Egypt's new capital is mostly designed for government and military departments purposes. They don't want that city to be full of people as that's the issue they faced in Cairo.
@@MeesterJ IIRC correctly, the Cairo New City is attached to Old Cairo with water supplies from the Nile. The Line City is completely new and isolated, far from Riyadh, Mecca or Medina.
If there's anything I've learned from this channel, it's that you can't ignore the context of the resources and geography available to a nation. Anyone that does when they are making decisions is probably going to fail.
Imagine if one of these braindead dictators poured that much money into building a normal city designed from the ground up with all the advancements the field of urbanism has made in mind. It could have so many trams!
if you build a circle, like discussed in the video, no need for trams - nearly everything would actually be walkable within half an hour,, or 90 minutes for absolutely everything - disabled people could get an e-wheelchair and get there even quicker.
bro I almost had a stroke when you explained how much worse this is than a circle. When compared to a more logical approach I could not fathom the stupidity of the line.
The mathematics behind the circle didn't make much sense, unless the interior was also part of the building. The circumference of a circle is the diameter times pi, so I'm not sure how one gets 4 km as the furthest apart people would be.
@@johnhaller5851 I think you're right, and he was trying to talk about the average distance between two randomly selected residents, assuming people can freely travel in a straight line through the circle's enclosed "courtyard", if you will. My understanding is that they basically aren't developing the land around the structure, so I'm not sure how valid an assumption that would be.
@@Jasmobius fair, at the very least their "flying cars" or whatever would be able to more quickly access every part of the line if it were a circle, once again ignoring the millions of other blaring problems
@@johnhaller5851 I looked it up, the mathematicians meant a solid circle (one giant filled-in circular building) would allow any two random people to be 4 miles apart. This wouldn't be true if you just bent The Line into a circle and left the center as open desert.
their iq, look at statistics, even the conflict tormented Iraq, is higher, why? mesopotamian DNA and their education, with this statement, UAE seems to go the same way as saudia arabia, money going on the wrong things.
@@ihdiadgdhwbad1 That's what an oil rich country with a tiny population causes. Their people never have any ambition to get educated, to gain real knowledge and skills to succeed in the world. They just collect government subsidies.
*btw if you criticize this city on Twitter and you're a Saudi citizen, you'll go to jail.*
Are you a saudi ?
Expect nothing less form a monarch how'd waste money on nosese like this
No you wont stop spreading bullshit
if you criticize the Message/ regime in US you lose your job and social life
so if you think about it nobody is free of consequences
Even liking or retweeting such posts get you locked up in here. MBS is crazy af
in Europe, the first thing they teach you at school is that the distance between London and Birmingham is 170kms. Especially in Finland.
😂
Finland to Birmingham is about the distance from Houston Texas to Las Vegas Nevada
This guy could have just said Amsterdam to Brussels
Jeah, we Europeans definitely know that its the same distance as between salamanca and madrid.
Yep, bizarre choice for a 'European perspective'. Nobody outside of the UK knows where Birmingham is.
My geography class had an assignment once, we had to build a road in Africa that connected roughly thirty countries, taking into account natural geography and political bounderies. I failed because I completely forgot, and just drew a line from Cairo to Johannesburg.
The Saudis too, failed this geography project.
That makes me laugh, reminds me of when I was a little kid learning Currency.
"Make 27.60$ with the fewest bills and coins possible"
I put down *27$ bill and 60cent coin.
My teacher was not amused
Lol this comment should be pinned
I couldn't do that assignment either
cape to cairo part 2
@@FeedMeSalt In Australia you can chop up a note to do it.
If the note is between 20 and 80% complete, its value is the percentage of the note.
How in the world did they think this would only cost 200 billion? This is the first time I am hearing if it and my first thought was "2 trillion is probably a little low".
Nice pfp
I'm a dumb man and 16 trillion sounds MINIMUM
Lol you don't know what this would cost. Who cares what number you pulled out of your ass?
I assume it's just there to provide infinite fake economic activity. Kind of like China with their ghost cities that only exist to artificially inflate their gdp. The Saudis are going to be doing all kinds of crazy stuff to maintain their standing as the only money spout gets closer to running dry.
The companies contracted to build it are probably aware that the Saudi royalty is fucking stupid. So they can straight up lie by telling them a price, knowing it'll cost a fuck ton more. And once the project has tons of funding and hype, they'll just keep giving them money to finish instead of cutting their losses
One of the first principles of successful urban design is "don't build a city in a line in the middle of a fricking desert"
Right. The fact he thinks he can recreate the same impact with this as the pyramid is outrageous and disrespectful. Egypt wasn’t even desert when the pyramids were built💀 No amount of money will ever give you the true value of the pyramid. They can call it a chamber. But we all know the truth, you don’t build over a hot spring and think mfers ain’t gon ask questions. Nikola Tesla did that for us, and they took it all away.
It’s a totalitarian nightmare.
They could make the whole population go extinct.
💯👏🏾👏🏾😂
MBS isn't that intelligent
las vegas being a good example
I picture an architect drawing the first line of a cool design on a piece of paper and the prince being like woah stop right there, I love it.
"Sold!" Lol
I typically scroll through comments as the beginning of a video plays to see if it's generally worth it or not.
In hindsight, this comment is much more funny after watching the entire video!
I didn't watch one second, but this comment is funny AF.
"but sir it's not.."
"Shhh yes I'm sure this is it! Let's start!"
😂😂😂😂😂
9 million population
8.9 million of them: Unpaid migrant workers
0.1 million of them: Crazy rich people who have 8.9 million servants
I think everybody living in the line would be rich people because it would cost a lot to live there
However, from a different perspective, lots of people would be poor because the inconveniece of living there would lower the cost of living
@@painithin the last thing a rich person would spend his money at is to live in an apartment in a closed line community in the middle of a pure desert
News events like there in the shed
@@painithin Not really possible. SOMEONE has to cook and serve food, do maintenance, cleaning, fire fighting, run the checkout, security, doctors, nurses, psychiatrists, etc. It can't be just every person is disgustingly wealthy and doesn't have to work.
The only reason this entire project got approved is that the architect feared to lose his head by refusing but he probably knew it was unrealistic.
☝️↔️☝️↔️☝️↔️☝️↔️
Project like that must have a committee of probably 50 senior architects.
@@laius6047people have done interviews with those behind designing these things (anonymously for their safety) and it is legitimately a matter of: Dictator wants new ego fueled mega project, you've got like three days to throw something together. Don't really about reality or cost or anything, just make a flashy presentation so he doesn't take your head
"Escape: Human Cargo" is an underrated old TV movie that tackles this very topic.
And TV movies usually suck harder than ass.
The Emperor's New Dystopia
To quote the great philosopher:
"smooth brain dictator + construction project = dumb shit”
Adam Something?
@@Chris.Davies Adam somethings a fa*
How about the great wall of China! I don’t think it was built by a democratic lgbtq community😂
Adam something my beloved 😍
I heard that in Adam's voice, too, lol
This is truly the dumbest construction idea in human history that actually has serious money behind it. What a waste.
History has strong contenders. This one is pretty rough, though.
If humanity wants to advance, they will have to do project way more difficult than this. While I strongly believe this project will not be finished in my lifetime (if it would ever be finished at all), it’s better for a country with too much money to try than other countries.
Dude im imagining if instead of using all that machinery to make a line, instead it was utilized to make an extensive network of berms and swales; to hold onto the rain that occasionally goes into the areas. It could turn the desert into grasslands. The area receives alot of water but has no mechanism (biological or geological) to retain it; so it runs off/evaporates.
What if it's successful though this maybe the best engineering fear in human history
Well the Poop Tower they build was not so much better.
This sounds like something I tried to build in Sim City when I was 15. I thought cities with grid systems were ugly and tried to build everything off one road in a single straight line. I quickly realized that having a single road made traffic impossible and my citizens kept complaining about the commute. Someone should buy MBS a copy of Sim City 3000. I think that might help him a lot.
A streamer did that in City Skylines and tried to rectify the issue with blimps.
that streamer is RTGame, who somehow managed to make it "kind of work" (within the game anyway) with the aforementioned blimps
whether the blimps would actually work in a real life setting, well, someone should donate a few trillion to RTGame to play City Skylines in real life
Maybe they want to build an artificial River, Therefore straight line.
who knows, that's not my money, who am i to judge,
and can't say that those expensive Civil Engineers and Architects who work in the project are all Dumb as well,
i'm sure they hired a world class people to work on the project.
maybe there are a lot of thing that we didn't know about the project, it's too soon to judge
i would rather eat my popcorn and watch them trying their best,
than to be salty, negative and dooming everything for no reason
A "single road" towns actually exist IRL. There's plenty of them in Poland, but they are small vilages. Houses on the road, farm fields behind houses.
The Line will have solar powered hyperloop tunnels built with rocket teck boring machines.
Problem solved thanks to Elon Musk.
Imagine: if Saudi Arabia actually empowered their citizens and spent 2 trillion on education and scientific research and development rather than flushing it down the toilet like this, they could become one of the most advanced and sophisticated countries in the world. Instead, their oil will run out and they will become a failed impoverished country in a matter of decades. My heart breaks for them.
That's my sentiment too. This whole thing just makes me feel sad for the people and animals that will be affected
Ur right. Wasted their economy for the elites to live in
"You can euphemise it as a religion of peace all you want, but it's still a religion."
-Some Internet Gooner
No theocracy is ever going to become a beacon of enlightenment or societal development. Even secular domecracies have trouble with religious encroachment in matters of social progress (Roe V Wade in the US, for example).
A country ruled from the top down with Islamic "values" and rules unilaterally applied to the less powerful portion of the population is destined for failure and impoverishment, eventually...
Or as a Saudi myself we could vote and choose our fate and future! you won't see BS projects like this but for now we just sit and watch our wealth being thrown away and stolen
I can't wait forr us to get the right chance to change the reality and become able to choose our leader and judge the leader without facing disapearing in jails or being killed!
they're so rich they forget that their wealth is not infinite
Guess they have to blow their riches on something?
@@SirManfly its criminal how they blow these sovereign riches
Uh, the reason they want to build this city is because they know oil money won't last forever. It's the reason Dubai looks how it does.
It's quite the opposite. They know the world is trying to shift away from oil that's why they are desperately trying other ways to diversify their economy. They are even funding e-sport tournaments now.
@@KingNugget420 is that a justification or just an explanation? Dubai looks like shit lol, its extremely overpriced, the quality of the buildings and infrastructure does NOT match the prices charged for simply 'being cool, being Dubai'. Many massive buildings and projects sit half built, being a complete eyesore ever since 2009 crisis, have no recovered yet.
The high speed train is so stupid. If you need to stop about every minute, due to the population densitily, on a singular line, the train will never be able to build up enough speed.
High speed trains make sense between cities, not as localised public transportation.
Smart
Tell Gavin "Grusome" Newsome that in Calif. We are wasting 250 billion on a high speed train that nobody will ride. Better off spending that cash on water infrastructure and road reconditioning.
The train would be irrelevant to nearly all residents: The would be trapped in their '5 minute area' want to get out? Remember that AI surveillance system? The Line is a globalists wet dream.
@@JohnS-il1drthe HSR in California makes sense though. San Francisco to LA is a huge deal especially if it’s fast
Never mind that it's likely there'll be a single main point of access for people and goods, so also creating a single point of failure...
its called the line but you cant sniff it
total disappointment
I imagine the one who came up with it snorted a line that size
Only MBS can snort The Line, it's his anyway lol
Wow! Clever thought, I'm sure you would need help with that line, I'm available 😂
Gaurentee you can smell it though
1/10 too much sand in it
This will go down as the BIGGEST waste of money in history
I firmly disagree. Not only human history repeats again and again, there already is another bigger waste of money (and lives) going on: The Russian assault of the Ukraine. If Russia is not giving up on this madness, it will cost Russia a few times more than the entire cost of Neom! Also we cannot leave a chance for Russia to win, as this will rise the cost to a multitude of that. Hence what do you want? Russia to pay the bill or us all to pay an even far bigger bill? The estimated cost of the Ukrainian war in lifes, material and economy losses is estimated to be near 500 billion US$. For Russia alone. Per year! So this already exceeds the waste of Neom! On a global scale I think the global losses are more near the 1 trillion US$ mark. Per year, again! If Ukraine falls, the cost of what happens then (China tries to take Taiwan etc. etc. etc.) will rise the cost even higher. So AFAICS the best way to cut costs would be to enable the Ukraine to win against Russia ASAP and clearly state, that we, the global community, do not tolerate any behavior like that exposed by Russia. Regardless how big or small you are. That would be the sapient way. However humankind is far from acting sapient. I know, as I am German. Our global car sales drop. So we need to compensate. As the 5th biggest producer of weapons in the world, the solution is very easy: Head back to the 3rd place ..
It could work or not
@@SAAbd-g7yI highly doubt it will
you mean "the biggest waste of money in history so far" :)
@@mandurrudnam7632 its not coming out from ur pocket tho
"Why Saudi Arabia’s $2 Trillion Line City is Failing"
Next
"Why my gingerbread submarine failed"
LMAO 🤣
Oh it was the screen door.
nice one
Pretty sure my paper boat I built when I was 10 is more structurally sound than this shit
Why my gun made of trinitrotoluene failed Or Why don't i have a head anymore.
"Ridiculous massive concept city in middle of desert with no nearby resources is failing"
Who is surprised by this?
Come see Riyadh .!
I'm surprised ... it even started getting built
@@greebj Need to make incompetent investors THINK that there's progress to acquire their investor money competently.
Literally
I'm surprised this is even a thing. When I first saw an ad for this, I thought it was a scam designed to trick people into spending money on a project that didn't exist. This is so much dumber.
I love how they included there's gonna be a robotic jurassic park, like they were just making things up and wanted to see if anyone would notice
When is Pokemon going to give us a Line City?
Only robotic? They couldn't even promise a real Jurassic Park?
@@Tokru86 Dissapointing
Also the artificial moon. Why?
@@danielbishop1863 seems pretty obvious. They want Oozaru transformation even during a new moon.
This is what happens when you have no one that is willing to tell you "no" or that your ideas are bad.
There actually were people willing to do so and he had them killed, like that guy who went on foreign tv to say this wasn't such a good idea and then died in an embassy. This isn't due to the cowardice of the people around their leader, it is from the unrestrained power of a tyrant who sees any response other than "yes sir" as an act of treason.
The catastrophic insanity of Saudi Arabia.
I see more of a political issue than most. Having something noteworthy in far flung corners makes a statement to neighbors both countries and citizens that would like to spin off on their own. Space is a precious resource in a shrinking globe. Squatters are an emerging problem, even crisis in some places.
Superbus Tyrannus
Leave it to the Saudis to come up with something that insane
@@bluewater4 Space is literally NOT a "precious resource".
There's so much space and the entirety of humanity is located in cities.
This project is absolutely dumb beyond belief. Imagine having a traffic accident in the "rail" or the "flying taxi". "Woops! Looks like you'll be late to work for the next.... 8 hours. Also another one of your coworkers died."
That's what happens when you have too much money.
If that little line city was a property for sale listed by a real estate agent then even Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos net worth combined can not afford that in both of their entire lifetimes. Even the billionaires can't afford it at all!!!
Today u find out only poor people care about money, public finance is not real numbers. There are quadruple-trillionares
Selling NVidia, the company, to fund the city might work, but it'll be pointless if the actual cost is double the value of the company
@@CT-7731daaam
@@CT-7731 It's not possible to sell the whole company, all the shares at the same time for the same price, since different people own different share quantities. If someone sells 20% of NVidia in one deal, the shares would collapse and the company will not worth much. Jen-Hsun Huan owns only 0.21% of all outstanding shares
Persons by themselves obviously no, but families of billionaires can rise hella capital,
Hundreds of Saudi citizens have been sent to jail for criticizing this nonsense, with the sentences ranging from 7-14 years..
in the end they'll have to make it a prison to house all their citizens
no sanctions from USA? imagine that...
Keep lying and spread false rumors
@Booz2020dubai is not in Saudi Arabia it is in a separate country "united Arab Emirates"
@@bagaboiebailey yeah, but they're both the russia of middle east
Those drone taxis aren’t happening lmao. You need to generate enough downward force to cancel out your mass to fly. Look up a video of a helicopter taking off to see how much wind that would create lol.
Realistically Impossible
VTOL
@@beardupbeerdown7355 helicopters are vtols, vtol jets are even worse lmao there’s a reason the US doesn’t use them anymore even on aircraft carriers where it would seem to make sense
In fairness, helicopters are also really heavy.
@@DanKaschel I just looked it up and a small helicopter weighs about as much as an SUV or a heavy sedan
Wait… there was a question about it failing?? Bro tried to build all of NYC on one road in the middle of a desert, that’s why it failed
hilariously, the city you describe is more feasible than the line.
Neglecting the Fact NY took DECADES and still has constant adjustments. NEOM also ignores Urban Planning 101. You cannot plan a whole city in advance, it never works.
And unlike say Las Vegas, there is no real reason for people to go there.
People flocked to Vegas because it was a remote location free from any laws against gambling and vices. Saudi Arabia is the opposite of that.
@@triplemoyagames4195they did create Canberra as a planned city for Australia’s capital though, and it works fine. Perhaps wasn’t planned as deeply as NEOM but it was planned.
Washington DC was planned
Actually, comparing it to the pyramids is very apt. A hyper wealthy monarch, using a very large portion of their country’s resources purely to display their own vanity. Only difference now is that they’re asking the people to actually live in the pyramid.
And slaves. Don’t forget the slaves.
@@jinn194 Slaves? Saudi Arabia, maybe... Yes... Pyramids? No. At least most sources say that they were paid labourers.
The Pyramids were also more realistic, better looking and had a better return on investment.
Yeah I agree, the comparison is fair. I'm sure many people at the time said the pyramids "couldn't be built" but they got it done anyways by throwing a massive amount of resources at it. The difference here is, this project I don't think will actually get done, because unlike the pyramids, once it's built it needs constant maintenance and upkeep so people can live there... in the desert, far from any source of fresh water, this thing somehow needs to support 9 million people.
It's not vanity! It isn't about "look at me" stuff, it's about monarchy safe guarding when oil money is no more. That part was made clear in the video.
Saudi's Royal Family playing simcity in real life on Apocalypse Difficulty💀
But they've got an infinite money cheat code.
@@jkfang They just got lots of money. Their economy run mostly by oil. And oil is not unlimited. Many countries relied too much on oil have already fail economically. They may be next if they found no alternative.
@@fishyfinthing8854thus, the reason why they built this nonsense
let's hope for them they didn't forget to turn off disasters
@@jkfang wouldn't say infinite money cheat, more like they just did the "lotta money" code a few hundred times... But the day will come the realize they lost the controller 🎮 and can't find a replacement.
NEOM is the kind of place where an interesting dystopian cyberpunk story takes place
Dystopian is right. All of these megacity projects and those who shill for them make me nervous. After all, the whole rap about "you have everything you ever need right here, there's no need to leave" is only a Mississippi half-step away from "you're not allowed to leave," which is the ulterior motive I see written all over ideas of this kind.
I was thinking about that. I imagined a fantastic story for a movie haha
So what you’re saying is that a monarch had a self-aggrandizement fueled idea that has the potential to bankrupt his kingdom? Wow. Never heard of that.
Why it's failing? I'm curious as to how it could have possibly succeeded this seems like an idiotic idea
Money has a way of making people really stooopid lol.
Ikr, I always thought this was just a fundraising scam @@Cajek2
@@Cajek2 it's not a bad idea, you just need to spend about 100 years of Saudi's annual GDP, wait for a bunch technology that doesn't exist yet and ignore common sense and all the fundamentals of urban planning.
All they try to do is be a popular country again like its 890 or something
The amount of slave labor on this project is going to be crazy.
*cough cough* workers from South and Southeast Asia who will be entrapped under the Kafala system
yes i am one of this worker ۔
south asia is very poor in pakistan salary is 25 thousands ruppe if someone working in line project salary will be 4000 reyal it is 280000 it is one year salary in pakistan ۔
that is why poor south work here happily
Most of them are taken from nepal india pakistan bangladesh phillipines and indonesia
Well they need to work harder because the project is behind schedule.. I'd start by giving them 12 hour shifts.. and if that doesn't work I'd stop break times.. if that doesn't work pay cuts.. then it would be a stick with pointy metal end to get them to move faster.. and just continuously improve upon the technique.. I have this project ahead of schedule and under budget.. its just lack management skills..
Slavery when the workers are being paid 😂😂I think you're confused mate. 😂😂
Foreign contractors and construction companies must have been salivating at this proporsal. "Oh absolutely, we'll get it done, just wire us the money" Knowing damn well it will never see the light of day.
They'll need extra money so they can build a warehouse to store all the passports they are withholding from their foreign workers.
😂
Oh trust me I know one personally. She’s been getting paid highly for years already. But I don’t think she actually believes it will get finished😂
My uncle is milking them rn LMAO
"All payments due in advance in full and no refunds"
Living there if built sounds like cyber apocalypse hell
Saudi Arabia is just having fun in creative mode
yep.
the creative mode is the free trial version
bro got op 💀
The minecraft analogy is really good, seeing how villagers are often treated in minecraft...
Sandbox mode, literally
The real geniuses are the architects and construction companies who has somehow finessed Saudi Arabia into a continous 20-50 year project.
I'm convinced this project will keep going until the money runs out.
property sales will generate revenue during the projects duration
@@amblincork Like anybody will buy into this dystopian joke.
@@loveyourwordnever underestimate the ego of rich people, my friend. Never.
@@amblincorkno one is going to want to consistently live there especially when it's still being built which it will be for the rest of are lives, only it won't because they'll have to massively downsize once the cost outpaces what they could take on
@@dommysprite3771 You dont seem to understand how residtnial constirction projects work...I moved into my own home when nearby houses were still being constructed....that is very common
"It's a great idea if you think about it. If the first building is in the worst location, it would make sense to put the next building a little further away from that location. This process would repeat, and the city would naturally form a line as it tries to get away from itself" - Patrick Boyle
There's absolutely nothing strange about building a lined city across the desert. This entire video is heckling ... the Saudis building a city? They're already doing it. What's it matter? So why was there 50 references to them hating Israel, and gay people? This is propaganda funded by AIPAC I would be willing to bet. Over, and over, and over again they keep dropping messages with a voice of insane contempt and ridicule against Saudis as "the most evil and ruthless people, AAAND they hate Israel and love Israel's enemies!" We are America, not Israel. And Israel also hates gay people so let's stop buying that propaganda that they've ever legalized or socially accepted them; they allow democratic parades that sometimes include gays, but they have never given them social acceptance and relationship rights. This entire video was a giant political propaganda hit piece, attacking Americans as if this is our business and as if Israel is our Lord and Savior and Congress - merely because Saudi Arabia is ... Building a town across the desert. Yeah, keep your Israeli media out of America
He did the best review of the project 🤣🤣
The Line feels like the perfect setting for a dystopian city where you cant leave because the desert will consume you, or so you are told. Then a band of rebellious teens do make it out and find out that they live under a authoritarian techno monarchy while the rest of the world isn't a wasteland but a thriving system of city states or something.
didn’t you just describe children of eden?
I wonder how residents of this city would handle communicable diseases.
Or when someone leaves the stove on when they go to work 😂
By dying, if I had to guess
Do the same thing they did to the Twitter critic methinks
Perpendicular angles
I wonder how the police would handle a mob of hungry pissed off people with only one direction to retreat.
When I originally saw this I thought it was a joke. Then they started to build said joke.
Any good comedian builds on their jokes
Said joke or Saud joke
If somebody falls on the train tracks the entire city's gonna be late for work
saudis dont work. they have foreign slaves for that nonsense.
🤭
Bold of you to assume they will stop the train for the janitors to clean the gore.
😂😂😂
Train tracks in the Middle East aren’t accessible like that, they have automatic doors that only open when the train stops
This structure would be interesting as far as weather goes. A huge linear barrier that will be shaded on the north side and the “mirror” that would excessively heat up the ground by the south side. It might actually help create clouds and shade but could also create lots of sand storms
I'm a structural engineer, currently working on adding a wind wall to an existing industrial park. The biggest problem by far is the wind forces. Though the wall isn't too expensive itself, it's going to require a lot of concrete to anchor itself so the whole thing doesn't topple over. It's only about 80 feet tall, and it's not built on top of a damn sandy desert. Also, there's not half of an entire city hanging off of one side of it to further tip the balance of forces. If a single engineer greenlights any of this thing's drawings, he should be stripped of his title and seal.
I do wonder how they want to achieve that without using active support (and multiple nuclear reactors to keep that running 24/7/365).
If the engineer don’t approve , saud8 will arrest him and find a new one
I feel like the contractors got their deposits and that was it. Tell the Saudis what they want to hear , get the money.
I have a feeling the engineers are just looking to cash out on a very gullible and megalomaniacal prince with far too much money at his fingertips.
Like the Tom Cruise story - you get a safety guy to help you do a stunt, he says it can't be done - mmm - So you get a new safety Guy to help you do a stunt.🤪 Money given not earnt spawns this kind of insanity.
What sucks is that if they made this just a 1km-2km project it might have a chance of actually happening.
A small proof-of-concept project like that may have been a good idea.
Even at that considerably smaller size there is very little chance it would be prosperous enough to support any growth. It would be a constant drain of $$ on the rest of the country as these new urban planning ideas would probably require higher than expected maintenance costs on infrastructure and the renewable energy that is supposed to be used won’t support the population as the technology isn’t there yet.
Or... You know... Actually working on already existing Saudi infrastructure, housing, education, etc... who knows...
@@Aidan1488 Don't be silly, why would the "royal" family every waste money on such asinine things?
The Line assumes community can grow from a city instead of a city growing from a community.
This is one mega condo
This is the major issue with new cities built in the Middle East. Build it and they’ll come, Is the only motto. But what if people don’t come? Usually great cities are slowly built up by the congregation of people organically coming together, bringing their talents and cultures and making the city alive
Basically a death trap
it's exactly what happened with Naypyidaw.
I mean that’s what everyone said about China and laughed at their ghost towns but eventually people do always come
Not a fan of this Saudi project but as an urban designer, there's a type of city called a "planned city", indicating cities intentionally designed before construction begins to ensure efficient layout, infrastructure, and amenities. There are many successful examples of planned cities worldwide; however, the site selection and harsh climate of Neom made it insanely costly and credulous.
I feel like the line could work if it wasnt so damn big. 170km is actually absurd. 10km would be impressive as hell in my eyes
Exactly. Prove it works, but Jen expand the scale. This is asinine.
Agreed that 10km would be more manageable than 170km but you are ignoring all of the other many reasons why it won't work and why it shouldn't happen. It is utter madness and absolutely criminal to waste so much money like this.
@@charlesbryson7443 The concept is fundamentally flawed. There are good reasons why most cities are roughly circular when accounting for geography.
The most realistic part of this plan is the Jurassic Park.
Lol
And it's being proposed as some grand, world changing tourist trap, when it's just a theme park with no rides.
Like, his grand animatronic dinosaur park is literally just a T-Rex Cafe, but without food.
@@stephenschiffman5940 They spared every expense.
It would be cheaper and more realistic to populate it with actual dinosaurs than it would be to build this city. You could probably relocate a medium sized city to the surface of the moon, brick by brick, with this amount of money.
You're not wrong, people might actually pay to see that. As opposed to living in an ill-thought-out hellhole.
Turns out there’s a reason why cities have never been built this way. Crazy, right?
Well, there are a small number of exceptions, caused by natural obstacles, but none of them are a *single* line like this
(And they also developed rather naturally)
Artificial cities have never once ever worked to my knowledge, China built a shitload of them and most have been razed to the ground within a decade because nobody ever actually moved into them.
People naturally move to where the geography and opportunity provides a good place to be, you can’t just create that out of thin air especially in a desert with nothing to offer anyone but oil money that will eventually run out
Flying ambulances between 100 mile long world trade center buildings?? It's like they are trying to build a 9/11 generator.
That makes sense when you remember most of them were Saudis
Just thought, wonder what the up draft winds will be like. Surely that shiny wall in the desert will have some kind of weather issues.
It's all come full circle
Why fly inside the wall?
9/11??? Are you 40 years old 😂
You want sh*tty Blade Runner in the middle east? This is how you get it!
My man is making a prison for 9 million people and selling them as property 😂 genius
Just like a timeshare!
"From a European perspective, the same distance London is from Birmingham"
Me as a European outside of the UK: "What the fuck is a Birmingham?"
Yeah, the channel needs to re-think this sort of "helpful comparison." I'm American and none of the examples from the USA are helpful to me either.
I’m from Bham…there is no tourist things here except a GODDAM BULL
Hahaha probably about 170km from London😂
Its an 1slamic $hithole
It's a dump, dw about it
Saudi Arabia couldn’t even finish their 1km skyscraper on schedule: what would make them think this “line” city would be possible?!
fr this is just a waste of resources and time
11 years later and it’s still not finished 💀
Waste of time and resources. If only they could build a functioning city with the land they got 😂
@@gdplayer8768 It was before when MBS came into power, so I think that could play a factor on why it's not finished
It faced a huge problem after Mohammed bin Salmans Corruption Purge. It's a really complicated process. It doesn't have anything to do with money or power. Just some paperwork stuff. Don't overcomplicate it.
8:26 Picnic tablecloth guy’s face is like:
“I killed all my critics; and I’m okay with that.”
None of the “visionaries” or “developers” of this project have ever played SimCity type of games
Even with Infinite Money turned on, this would still be a failure in a city simulator. How is emergency services going to function in a city like this? Let alone goods transport.
Exactly lets say train lines need to be repaired and some stuff is at other end how you gonna get that stuff
By train
BUT THE TRAIN IS UNDER MAINTENANCE @@MarvinPowell1
And it shows 😅
Nor have they played anything like factorio or things in that vein.
For things like SimCity and the factory style games making a linear city/map is literally a challenge run.
I have a feeling they didn't talk to any engineers or builders. The most charitable response I've ever heard is "you could probably do it with enough money".
@@MarvinPowell1 How do you grow food for 9 million people? Do they even know how much land is needed to feed 1 million people for a year? There should be no imports since the idea is that it'll be 100% self-sufficient when it comes to food, power and water. WATER!
Literally something a toddler would build in Minecraft creative mode. I can't believe adult humans can greenlight stuff like this.
Nepotism...
They think they got creative mode IRL but forgot they're still playing hardcore
@@snowcoalRC fr 💀
Maybe someone should have tried it out in Minecraft first lol
they're Saudis, they don't have much intellect. They sure have oil money, tho
POV: You are a random Bedouin farmer who is being roasted alive by the light reflected from the Line
Lol was gonna point that out, it's a country-spanning solar laser beam, but hey, if you're the big man at the head of the city, doesn't really matter what the people on the outside feel I guess
@@bobthegamingtaco6073magnifying glass = sniper
Tf is a Bedouin farmer
Bedouins are Arab tribes that have practiced desert farming for millennia. You can use Google to become less ignorant
@@zyplocsSaudi Bedouin tribes are nomads they didn't farm. You alsocan't farm in the desert with no water or soil
Why am I just discovering this channel now! Great work!
I am actually a huge supporter of this project. I hope MBS continues to build it.
I can think of no better way to piss away the entire wealth fund and lower his influence on the world stage
he will waste the whole economy of saudi and turn back into a desert with almost nothing 💀
i don't know. it's a country full of religious extremists in an already unstable region. and if the country collapses...
He thinks people will go there, and they might, but not enough ppl.
I'm looking forward to the day we get away from OPEC.
Yeah I didn't realize it was already this much of a disaster. I thought it would just die like all crazy ideas do in the planning or barely begun stage.
I love this project, too. Hope MBS goes back to camel-riding.
All of this 500m tall 170km wide with high speed railway and jurassic park shit sounds like something my little cousin would tell me about during a family gathering, not a monarchy leader
Everyone is too scared to tell him the truth.
The prince of saudi arabia does have a steam account with an anime girl as his PFP
Monarchs are like children. Peter the 2nd of Russia would march real life soldiers around and play war with them when he was emperor.
It's like someone heard the phrase "the shortest distance between 2 points is a straight line" but had absolutely no understanding of geometry beyond that.
The circle seems like something that could actually work and would actually achieve everything the line wants to achieve. This isn’t even stupid, it’s so far beyond that. It’s a genius level of planning to determine the worst possible course of action.
The stupidest thing about The Line is: If there's two other things Saudi has a LOT of (after oil) it's tons of empty space and year-round bright sunlight. They could easily become the world leader in pioneering solar energy. They could open a space port. They could invest in renewable energy and do something about climate change. But instead they're making a modern Kowloon Walled City surveillance state in the middle of nowhere for no clear reason other than badly copying Dubai's homework with "lol cool megaproject." And even Dubai's projects had some point or purpose (land reclamation, geoengineering, tripling their coastline, tourism, etc) even if they didn't always work. tl;dr There's literally no reason for The Line to exist. It's dumb even by Elon Musk standards.
There’s a lot that goes into wondering how this would even function. Strong winds on a wide/flat faced object seem horrible due to basic understanding of how wind works. The lines of skyscrapers (from what I’m getting from this) would be very vulnerable to any most forms of destructive force, like explosives. Just sounds like a bad idea all around, but then again it’s their money, I’d hope they have ideas in store on how to mitigate those issues.
The renewable energy idea wouldn’t work, it would honestly cost them an equally ridiculous amount of money to set up enough renewable energy to power the city, possibly more money than the city itself. Renewable sources are not efficient at all, they’d need nuclear or fossil fuel energy.
their iq, look at statistics, even the conflict tormented Iraq, is higher, why? mesopotamian DNA and their education, with this statement, UAE seems to go the same way as saudia arabia, money going on the wrong things.
Even Dubai projects were kind of stupid. They dredged up millions of tons of sand from the depths and absolutely decimated any aquatic ecosystems in their path only to build a tacky world island archipelago that can’t even sustain any buildings because island aren’t just a bunch of sand dunes sticking out of the water. Islands actually have a foundation that plants and buildings can anchor themselves to. But even this line makes Dubai mega projects seem genius in comparison.
@@therealspeedwagon1451 i'd easily argue, UAE's projects were much worse and also alot less ethical, they just paid engineers, architects to help with projects and they also paid poor people from south asia to build the projects for less than a cent a month, dubai is terrible i can never see myself residing there.
@@ihdiadgdhwbad1 erm... what do you think the Saudis are going to do?
Projects like this really highlight how insanely stupid dictators and tech investors are.
Yea if only they went $30Trillion in debt over the past 20 years and wasted all of that money killing people instead.......oh wait 🤔😂
and we’re all funding it
All that money and these oil rich Arab country cannot create or innovate anything..
No, it highlights how insanely wealthy these people are that they can just blow it on a dumb project like this just to try and show off and make their mark.
How many illegals are your voted politicians letting across the border and how much are they spending o ntheir garbage militairy?
To be honest It sounds like a prison.
wouldnt be surprised if it ends up being a hellish kowloon walled city like slum for refugees and migrants from war in the near future dystopia
Saudi Arabia is a prison.
Their religion is islam ruled by a religious dictatorial family. It's already a prison.
A prison within a prison.
It's the first and second line of hell surely?
For my fellow Americans
170 kilometers =
105.633 miles
Dubai tourism isnt exactly booming and thriving as the narrator says. They have hit some big snags and its not really growing anymore.
Because people have realized that it's literally the worst tourist trap possible, a lot of dirty shit has come out about it, including the Instagram influencer experiences.
@@cavalierliberty6838 The vast majority of them are sex workers anyway.
Can you please share some more info on it?@@cavalierliberty6838
People are also starting to realize that the whole place was basically built by slave labor.
@@lizardman1582 Exactly, the truth came out
This boutta be some 1984 shit like:
"What part of the line you from?"
"Central-West. We call it Old Riyadh."
I'll be from the food court borough. We call it McDo Square.
That prince boy probably saw some new fancy shopping mall and went: "Why can't people live here? I"ll make it in mega version! And if that fails, we'll have a new prison to house those pesky modern activists."
120 kilometers is not "whopping" for 9 million people crammed in there. Diseases, lack of fresh air, this is someone's nightmare come alive! Holy shizer
*170
Yep. It'll be a prison almost immediately.
It's the central spire of a 40k hive city laid on its side.
Yeah maybe it'll end up getting repurposed as a giant prison for the world government
@@liamconverse8950 Facts, 💯
I never thought about it, but the ring sounds like such a cool idea. It feels like this one guy accepting this one small patch could have led to a wildly different outcome.
Imagine having the worst idea in the history of mankind.
What you mean Islam?
their iq, look at statistics, even the conflict tormented Iraq, is higher, why? mesopotamian DNA and their education, with this statement, UAE seems to go the same way as saudia arabia, money going on the wrong things.
@@blurglide You're right, i'm from Iraq and look what religious lunatics did to the country after the us invaded, but yes, just blame everything on the west right?
That would be legalizing lgbtq
And then imagine having the money to make people build it for you! 😂😂😂
I think the Prince probably snorted a line before coming up with this idea.
I think he was into a multi day crack pipe session by the end of the design phase
Except it was westerners who designed and planned it?
@@M.sami12 yeah, they will design something for you if you pay them enough.
And truth be told, 80% of the "design team" are concept artists... probably because most of the engineers they spoke to couldn't stop laughing long enough to pick up a pencil.
🤣
@@somethinglikethat2176 they must have run out of concept artists, the concepts of their turtle cruise ship has LEGO cranes
“Oil Money” isn’t enough to get a “The Line” completed, a $20 trillion project is more like “asteroid mining money”
Shhhht you'll give 'em ideas!
@@alexandregermain8011 Asteroid mining would at least produce resources, some of them valuable.
@@subduedreader5627it’s also illegal to sell
@@subduedreader5627and might be illegal to even mine
Asteroid mining would unironically crash the entire global economy.
There are rocks up there that contain several orders of magnitude more gold and platinum than humans have extracted in the past 200k years COMBINED.
@25:25 Perhaps several lines, stopping at different intervals: one that only stops half way, another every 10 stops, 4, 2, etc.
400,000 elevators required for the project? Time to buy shares in Otis?
Schindler too
@@batt3ryac1d Schindler would be accurate for the quality of the project
Otis, Kone and Schindler so hot right now.
Or Thyssenkrup
@@batt3ryac1d I'll get the list
You guys don't get it. The prince is just building a wall to protect his people from the titans
I hope he doesn't lose it all, slips and falls, because he'll never be able to look away... 😢
Best reason ever🤣
I know you're joking but my heart skipped a beat.
That show messed me up I guess
If titans were real. It would be good
Hubris.
Lemme guess: it's failing because a line segment is not a practical shape for a city
Better than that: it's the least practical shape possible.
It's not *that* impractical, plenty of line-like towns were built along rivers and railroad tracks, this is just way, way bigger and way, way less practical because there's no resources nearby
So how did they plan on creating wealth in the line? What is produced in there to create some sort of an economy?
@@cyclesaviorn2700 I assume the plan was to recycle as many resources as possible, limiting expense, and then use oil money to buy overseas companies, have those companies make all the actual wealth, and ship the profits back home. As far as what jobs people would do in the city? Probably managing the recycling and travel infrastructure, call center work/remote advisory, executive positions at said overseas companies, that kind of thing
@@bobthegamingtaco6073 thank you! That makes way more sense than trying to run any sort of large scale manufacturing mining or production facilities in a real scale to actually support such a large city economically
Dude, the Prince of Saudi Arabia is just playing a city sim on sandbox mode.
By the way the Eiffel Tower which has a vast amount of metal it’s only 309 meters high, this city would be a constant wall of 500 meters high for 170km long, this is how big stupid this idea is!
New York could serve as a better comparison with 70000 skyscrapers consuming more steel
Yeah, this would take an ungodly amount of materials, it would require most of the building materials being produced in the whole world. for decades.
Why not make it 50 m tall. Every 2 m you can built a 100m tower. Etc. Every 20m you can build a 150m tower.
As needed you can double the wall height to 100m
But they aren't dumb it must have been for a reason they must have know there probably isn't that much metal/materials on earth
@@Justice4trump bro they are dumb! If the Arabs want to do something actually special they would be investing in space! A city in space is actually more viable, or putting money to make the ISS bigger! Anyways…
imagine how much carbon they gonna burn in order to build this "net zero" emissions city.
their iq, look at statistics, even the conflict tormented Iraq, is higher, why? mesopotamian DNA and their education, with this statement, UAE seems to go the same way as saudia arabia, money going on the wrong things.
@@ihdiadgdhwbad1 yeah right you solved it body. you went straight to eugenics 🤣
it has nothing to do with iq a dictator desperately trying to build a grandiose legacy by building big things is not a new thing and it has nothing to do with iq.
@@ihdiadgdhwbad1UAE started the dumb trend of burning things on stupid projects and unfortunately it worked out for them(ignoring the failures) so Saudi is gonna follow them
@@sharequsman596 I dont know honestly, us arabs are the most ignorant, indoctrinated people on earth, from religion to false narratives that we're fed.
you skipped the part where after he was killed, we named the street that the Saudi Embassy is on (in D.C.) to "Jamal Khashoggi"
...and then continued to sell them weapons and support mbs lol
@@as-oy1liwell of course, we LOVE supporting ruthless dictators😁, that’s just America
LOL.
Thanks for that titbit.
MBS thought that he is playing creative mode
The Line will have two classes of people, assuming it actually is completed. The rich people, who will be maybe 10% of the population, and the rest will be imported foreign workers. The rich folks will get the benefit of all the bells and whistles, and the workers will be essentially slaves, not allowed to leave their sections, watched by surveillance 24/7/365, and given a bare minimum of wages.
It's pretty much how Dubai works.
If they wanna leave, nothing is stopping them. Except for the gapless surveillance in, and the vast desert beyond the Line, of course.
you forgot the rich tourists that will want to visit it though.
Sounds like the premise for Bioshock 4
@@Personoflordlycalibur was about to say it sounded like bioshock 3 alrdy xD
this is what happens when you give absolute power to someone that has no concept of money or the real world whatsoever.
Neom is the sound a really fast car makes when it passes me
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Excellent!!!😂😂😂😂😂
As a population geneticist, 33:30 is my immediate criticism of The Line that most other content creators fail to include. I am glad you pointed it out 🙌
I will die not understanding how a few thousand people can look at 8 billion people and cause them suffering for such mundane reasons.
I mean, he was raised in a palace and has always had servants who will do anything for him. He literally believes God gave him his title.
And you expect someone raised like that to understand (let alone sympathize) with the plight of the common person?
Some people are rich enough to make it impossible for their children to have to deal with the real world.
@@AchkahklToday I learned Islam is the reason Jeff Bezos overworks his employees so much they pee in bottles. /s
Don't kid yourself. This is just what happens when wealth and greed for more wealth corrupts the ruling class
@@lao5610
Well said, Just imagine how much humanity can progress with that kind of money in medicine and engineering but no dictator want fancy architectures !
@@shivamsolanke4660 they call it revolutionary and i hope this causes a revolution
It's like if the Fyre Festival was a country
We’ve been living just fine for over 90 years. Don’t speak on behalf of us
@@FrontRowSeatToEarthWho is "we?"
@@liamhuges “We” as in Saudis. Your name is Liam, you’re clearly not Saudi. You have no stake in this conversation.
@@FrontRowSeatToEarth If people judged Saudi Arabia's friendliness and intelligence solely based on you, they would likely be disappointed. Hopefully, that's not the case. The OP wasn't comparing Fyre Festival to Saudi Arabia, but rather referencing a similar failed attempt related to this specific project.
@@liamhuges believe me there are much ruder people here
If you want to preserve your oil wealth, and do well for your nation, look at Norway.
The difference between Caladan and Arrakis😂
@@rositasultana3958 😂😂😂 So, so true!
L😂L
They can't power most of their cities by hydroelectric dams and sell the petroleum
But smooth brained dictator wants literally flashy project not boring high yield savings account.
BORING!!! No - build crazy stuff :D :D :D
I honestly wish I was the architectural firm behind this , just sucking money off of some monarchy with an impossible project that I say will take decades so .. they can’t blame me if it isn’t done in 10 years , is multi generational, THIS IS THE BEST SCAM EVER
This city made the "kingdom" more fragile. The way the people of saudi arabia see their ruling family is "we don't get a say, but we end up getting a very good standard of living". The ability of the house of saud to continue to provide their part of that pact was very much weakened by this stu pid city and the gigantic expense.
At best it looks like a scheme to get money into the hands of the Royal Family members the Crown Prince favors. Of course there are other places they can live if it all falls apart.
That's how Chinese people see their government too.
Yup, once people's standard of living starts falling, they won't be so kind.
The Line is the reason we have science fiction as fiction.
It'll be a Blade runner style slum in twenty years
From Blade runner to Judge Dredd (Megacity) to Cyberpunk 2077 (Night City) to the Line.
Give it another 20 years and itll turn into a huve form 40k.@PaulZyCZ
I don't know why you'd want to A: live in an enclosed line in a desert and most importantly B: ran by a country like Saudi Arabia.
I honestly can’t even think of a country that I would trust enough to ever visit a project like this 😵💫
@@mitchelltoft825 I definitely agree with that
I would be willing to bet that the vast majority of the people living there would gladly live somewhere else if it was a realistic option for them
@@Hatecrewdethroli live here and no I wouldnt lol if you have money its actually a great place to live, especially in Jeddah which is rapidly modernizing
I was just assuming they'd force their own citizens to live there
I imagine the pitches for these projects involve PowerPoints with a lot of flashing images and bright colors.
I honestly believe that it’s not going to be finished , and instead a normal town/city will be built , which would also struggle to find residents , similar to Egypt’s new capital city.
However, it seems they built the initial phase far from the sea.
Egypt's new capital is mostly designed for government and military departments purposes. They don't want that city to be full of people as that's the issue they faced in Cairo.
The Egyptian city actually started functioning
Still, the Egyptian city looks to become more functional and livable than this madness
@@MeesterJ
IIRC correctly, the Cairo New City is attached to Old Cairo with water supplies from the Nile. The Line City is completely new and isolated, far from Riyadh, Mecca or Medina.
A excellent example of “more money than sense”
If there's anything I've learned from this channel, it's that you can't ignore the context of the resources and geography available to a nation. Anyone that does when they are making decisions is probably going to fail.
18:13 sounds like they should have started with Sharm El Sheikh, connecting to civilization, instead of right in the middle of a box of hot sand.
It is cooler than Sharm el-Sheikh and in winter it snows nearby. Type snow in Jabal al-Loz in the search engine and it will appear.
Imagine if one of these braindead dictators poured that much money into building a normal city designed from the ground up with all the advancements the field of urbanism has made in mind. It could have so many trams!
They have already.
there are no trams in Saudi Arabia though
if you build a circle, like discussed in the video, no need for trams - nearly everything would actually be walkable within half an hour,, or 90 minutes for absolutely everything - disabled people could get an e-wheelchair and get there even quicker.
@@BenjaminLupton But the structure is called “the line”
@@prettypuff1well, a line is basically a circle with infinite radius
bro I almost had a stroke when you explained how much worse this is than a circle. When compared to a more logical approach I could not fathom the stupidity of the line.
and I am by no way meaning this is stupid just because its a line, its stupid all the way through. that comparison just really did it for me lmao
The mathematics behind the circle didn't make much sense, unless the interior was also part of the building. The circumference of a circle is the diameter times pi, so I'm not sure how one gets 4 km as the furthest apart people would be.
@@johnhaller5851 I think you're right, and he was trying to talk about the average distance between two randomly selected residents, assuming people can freely travel in a straight line through the circle's enclosed "courtyard", if you will. My understanding is that they basically aren't developing the land around the structure, so I'm not sure how valid an assumption that would be.
@@Jasmobius fair, at the very least their "flying cars" or whatever would be able to more quickly access every part of the line if it were a circle, once again ignoring the millions of other blaring problems
@@johnhaller5851 I looked it up, the mathematicians meant a solid circle (one giant filled-in circular building) would allow any two random people to be 4 miles apart. This wouldn't be true if you just bent The Line into a circle and left the center as open desert.
I grew up on a farm. I know what bullshit smells like
their iq, look at statistics, even the conflict tormented Iraq, is higher, why? mesopotamian DNA and their education, with this statement, UAE seems to go the same way as saudia arabia, money going on the wrong things.
@@ihdiadgdhwbad1 That's what an oil rich country with a tiny population causes. Their people never have any ambition to get educated, to gain real knowledge and skills to succeed in the world. They just collect government subsidies.
Not me just realizing that I commute to work the entire east-west distance of Connecticut each day 4 days a week