Update: As of May 10th, 2022, the iPod touch has been officially discontinued, marking the official death of the iPod line. I've done a video on it, just a quick retrospective: ua-cam.com/video/JWGuvImahts/v-deo.html
You did amazingly man, even if a few things couldn't make the cut to get in. So many of us viewers really appreciate all the work you put into this stuff
The music, the presentation, the voice. This channel feels underrated for how good it truly is. I wish more people knew about your videos. I'm glad I found this channel.
The hook was very good. Used attention grabbing terminology to keep those who may actually be interested in the video here. keeping those who cared about the video is better than just increasing view-count.
@@aaronrdaniels he still made a mistake he got that info wrong about Microsoft giving money to Apple he made a mistake bc that same time Apple was suing Microsoft that’s how they got 150 million Apple and Microsoft worked out something tentatively leading towards the 150 million
1:54:38 there's nothing like watching a 2 hours documentary about the iPod and finding your own concept at the end lmao, glad you liked it! I agree that it's REALLY unlikely we'll ever see a new iPod, but it was fun to make that concept, btw I've been following your channel for a while and this was definitely one of your best videos, keep up the good work!
I was NOT expecting to watch a 2 hour video about the 20 year history of iPod… But here I am after watching the entire video. Wow, I’m truly impressed and just subscribed to your channel! Great work!!😎🙏🏽
I worked at Circuit City during the iPod heyday before the iPhone. Selling iPods was probably 80% of my daily job duties. People were constantly coming in asking for it. It was a fun time and I miss it.
I watched this documentary twice and love to go back into the nostalgia of this beautiful piece of dying tech. Seeing the 4th gen iPod always brings tears to my eyes. It takes me back to such a great part of my life. We can’t let its history die. Great doc my man, and I’ve been doing a project of collecting the old iPods. And creating a frame to place all them in. Thanks for telling us about eoe!
Thanks so much for the feedback- glad you've enjoyed the video :) Comments like this honestly make my day, nice to know so many share a passion for old tech like this.
Amazing video josh you seem like a really genuine guy who just wants to share their passion with everybody! Out of all the youtubers who keep on looking at the future and the present, you're one of the few that looks, embraces, and remembers the past, and its so amazing!
This incredible art piece you have created documenting such a huge monumental 20 yrs for Apple has brought me so many feelings. I was born in 97, so I grew up right in the middle of the Steve Jobs Era for Apple. As a young tech enthusiast during that time, Apple captivated me and I fell in love immediately. I still remember the day I got my first Apple product and that was the iPod Nano 4th gen. Then exactly 1 yr later I upgrade to the 5th gen with the camera. I couldn’t get enough. There is just something about Apple that continues to captivate me still to this day, and I believe that is the fact that Steve Jobs still lives on throughout every product that is released. Steve was an incredible man, stubborn at times, but incredible. He’s an inspiration to me everyday. I am a huge Apple Fanboy now and an even bigger tech enthusiast and that’s is thanks to Steve. He changed my life. I know I’m rambling again this point, busy I just want to say thank you. You’ve made my heart so happy with this video. Thank you thank you thank you!!
LOVE the 3rd gen iPod. I got it 18 years ago today for Christmas. I was 17, it was a 10gb model, and cost my mom 299 before tax so needless to say it was the only gift I got. I love that button arrangement. I don't hate any other design but the 3rd gen will always be my favorite. I had the inline remote as well and it was very useful. It had a clip so you could attach it to your shirt or jacket.
I notice IPod Touch Seventh Generation has mostly been disappeared from Apple's website now, possibly eliminating it - an amazing history of an epic market defining product - thanks for this well researched and produced YT documentary on the history of it. :)
Its still there if you scroll down all the way to the bottom, in the leftmost column, although amusingly it still says on it's page "checkout iOS 14 the most advanced iOS ever!"
me and my friend used to use her ipod video to listen to music otw to school. i have sm fond memories of those moments in elementary school cuz the ipod was so cool to me.
Really, really solid video. I hadn't though much about my ipods from...oh 15 years or so ago in a long time, but this video made me pretty nostalgic for them. You should be really proud of making a two hour video that still managed to feel concise the whole way through. Keep up the good work.
My dad still uses his gen 1 ipod nano. Always used a case so its unscratched and the wheel is still soft. Nothing has justified an upgrade, its never broken, and the battery still works. Its still a decent lightweight mp3 player 15 years later.
No it’s a failing market with everything you have available in an iPhone there’s really no reason to go back to an iPod With all the innards of an iPhone you have more memory than ever and the quality of the music is just as good if not better now All ipod is now is a niche market for nostalgia unless you’re an audiophile but then you wouldn’t be listening to an iPod you would have a really nice expensive MP3 player with a nice dac system so if they wanted to make an iPod relevant they would need to make a very expensive version with a really nice dac system which again would be a niche market because it would be expensive for just an audio system so it would only be sold to audiophiles
@@VdiMusicGaming Yes if they wanted to make it for a niche market sure but they’re in the business to make money and I think the only way they would make more money is by iPhones Would it be cool if they had one that was souped up for a Hi-Rez audio only yes that would be cool but it would be very expensive and not many people would purchase it
@@VdiMusicGaming I think they don’t want to put too much in that kind of market because there are already a few players that are really good for a Hi-Rez audio I think they’re only more interested in their phones I agree it would be pretty cool they had something like that especially if it was affordable I just don’t think They’ll ever get to it or do it though
@Lachlan James Ambler HD must not have been uploaded yet, I watched it in 4K....I mean obviously some of the old video clips aren't going to matter haha.
I’m super blown away by this documentary it gave a nice insight in the history and the little oddities of the iPod and Apple in general. It was really nostalgic and just superb i especially liked the clips where Steve is talking. This documentary really touched me and showed me again what an interesting, innovative and special person Steve Jobs really was. RIP Steve
Since Apple is doing the lossless music thing, iPod definitely could have a big return as the only device that doesn’t require any additional amp or dac to play lossless audio. Add a 1/4”and a 2.5mm jack, better built-in dac and bigger battery, USBC, an iPod Pro is definitely possibly (I’m not an audiophile nor have a pro music player, so I’m likely getting something wrong here).
The long time problem here is that the audiophile community is very small and unique. Apple already has lossless audio codecs to play on iPod for years (ALAC and AIFF) which both available within the iTunes while you rip the song from the CDs so the problem isn't about the availability of the lossless codec. The declining of iPod is due to the fact that mainstream consumers don't want to carry an additional device just for listening to music (which Jobs also predicted correctly back when phones started to have the flash memory and be able to play the music, around 2005 before iPhone). And with present day availability of lossless streaming plus the connectivity speed, the significance of a dedicated music player is on triple down declining. I'm not against your idea of iPod Pro but even as an audiophile I won't buy it unless it could be more cost-effective than others in the market or at least not using proprietary program like iTunes.
@@new1412 I mean, Sony still makes a colossally expensive premium Walkman model these days, and Astell&Kern built their whole product range in that market. (Incidentally they're what used to be iRiver, if that's still a familiar name from way back when). So clearly there's *some* market for this sort of thing, enough to sustain several competing companies in the high price segment. I could totally see Apple getting into this, with perhaps the extra bonus of capitalising on nostalgia for the iPod Classic.
@@jdatlas4668 I mean, yes, there are some market for this sort but, again, the main question here is will Apple be okay for selling, like, 10k annually (if they're lucky)? Also A&K and Sony doesn't (afaik) required a proprietary software (like iTunes) or port (Sony used to have but they (kinda) realized so just went along with 3.5mm), on the other hand the iPod culture is dying down due to the limitations from both of them (iTunes, Firewire & 30pin). The nostalgia is long gone. The Walkman is still alive due to the demand in Japan is still high (and they're promoting it as a Hi-Res player which sounds so cool when actually it's just a capability to play a 24 bits audio file) and that's all.
Steve really cared about pricing. He knew to reduce for the iPhone 3G. They were a bit pricy but not too much out of reach in contrast to what apple has become nowadays.
The 4th generation ipod touch will always have a soft spart in my heart as it was my first piece of tech. Wish I could find a brand new one just to have it lol.
@1:04:23 The original iPod Nano - IMO the most elegant, attractive design and true click wheel. Sigh, loved it but it was replaced before I could get one (was a poor student at the time, tho a friend got me the 3rd Gen iPod w touch buttons) and I never warmed to the look of the aluminum iPod Nanos that looked just like mini minis. RIP OG Nano!
Here in 2023, I still use a 3rd gen Nano daily. I'm pretty far from being an Apple fanboy, but this nugget is an amazing marriage of design and technology, and I still get a decent battery life out of it. I wish Apple were still a responsible company and produced stuff that stand the test of time.
I figured you’d make a video to commemorate the iPod anniversary, but you went and made a feature-length documentary! I think you did a great job, and the effort you put in was a great tribute to what really was a key moment in Apple and technology history. No iPod would have meant no iPhone and no Apple as we know it today. Heck, the company might not have even existed anymore by 2021. Kudos on a great video.
The iPod really changed the music world and I have so many great memories with it from the 4th Gen to the the 6th and even using an old iPhone 2G as an iPod touch back in 2008. Now iPods are back thanks to DankPods (though now he expanded to headphones and other MP3 players).
What I have come to realize with tech youtubers is that there are 2 kinds, one from whom you learn a lot, regardless of the subject, and others that ramble a lot but at the end you learn little or nothing... I could feel it but I couldn't tell what was different between them. Recently I understood, the ones from whom you learn a lot are those that know a lot about the history of technology. And you are one of them Josh.... Other youtubers review old tech, some even more often than you, but they don't know half of the stuff you do about history. As someone who is also passionate about the history of tech I can tell you that you videos are very enjoyable....and that's even more amazing coming from someone who has less than half my age....
I feel fortunate to have lived through that period in Apple's growth. It was really something. It was such an exciting time! Steve Jobs' keynotes were always an event that you had to experience. He really made the people excited by the new products coming out. Apple's marketing today is a bit too slick and polished and doesn't have that same feeling. Great video!
My first handheld device was a lime green 4th gen shuffle in 2011, which my mom accidentally lost a year later. To replace it, my parents gave me a iphone 4 (no sim) a year later, which lasted as my frontline device until 2016 when I got an iPod touch 6. At that time, it was an amazing device, and it lasted me until late 2017 when I replaced it with a iPhone 6s, both of which I still have
I’m using an Apple iPhone 12 promax 512 GB I got it for free what I did was I bought an old iPhone 7 then I bought an iPhone X and swapped it out and returned it to Amazon saying I got the wrong phone they gave me my refund so then I bought an iPhone 11 promax 512 when it came out I exchanged it the same way and now I upgraded to the iPhone 12 pro max 512 gigabyte all for free from a $100 damaged iPhone 7 Amazon won’t even question you if you buy a used iPhone from them return an old iPhone and say it was the wrong one they will give you a refund
@@MultiColouredVagina Yep I’m cool and I get free $hit I’ll be laughing when I upgrade to the next newest phone for free while you’re paying $1500 out of pocket
That b-roll scene with the iPod sitting on top of the pre-special edition Star Wars VHS tapes got me. My childhood and young adulthood wrapped up into one picture... Edit: Just got to the end, and THANK YOU for pointing me to the EOE website! That is awesome!
The iPod Classic was actually discontinued because some of the parts either didn’t make sense or became logically unobtainable in terms of costs. I think the hard drives, ironically the part key part for their initial existence, for the classic were to be discontinued in production. This meant that either the price would rise for Apple to keep buying them from toshiba, or they needed to start production themselfs which both were ridiculous options financially for a market losing product which was well on its way out at this point.
Wow! That was so much fun to watch! I’m going to go to EOE and buy a U2 iPod like the one that was stolen from my office. It was my favorite possession at the time.
This documentary is literally the best about the iPod on the internet. Its like ColdFusion video editing level! Thank you for uploading such a remarkable video.
I still have and use my very first Apple product, a 1st-gen Nano... and I also got a second-hand 3rd-gen Nano last year. My 3rd-gen Touch was kindly bequeathed to my older brother (so he'd stop using a WALKMAN) and still works
Not mentioning the Creative Zen series, the Creative Jukebox or the Archos Gmini400/402 makes it seem like the iPod was ahead of the curve at all times and further ahead of the curve, when the actually were. When the iPod photo came out, I was already watching movies on my very pocketable Archos Gmini 400 it felt like the future. Regarding the shuffle, it was about 3 years late to it's party. The MuVo series of players provided a better experience years earlier and around the same price bracket and size.
Hello! My wife and I we have LG, Sony, Samsung, Element, Skyworth and Vizio in the house right now. We enjoy all of them for what they proffer. I find myself studying my purchases now before pulling the trigger but when we have settled on the television that we want we get tunnel vision. Only you and your family have to watch and enjoy your purchases. So follow your heart! Keep up the good work.
I gotta say, thank you so much for doing this. For years I wanted the complete tale of the Ipod but no one ever stepped into the challenge. It was alway the years before the release of the first one or just focusing on specific models like the Classic, Touch or Nano and I always knew that there where tons on information missing, but here it is, someone finally made the video that I always wanted. You've just won a new sub and by taking a look at your content, some binge watching is on it's way as well!
Some people have the audacity to say that the Apple ecosystem is nothing but a circus.Looking at Steve Jobs on stage,I can honestly say that he was the RINGMASTER!
you definitely have a talent in how you put these together. I have adhd but just sat and watched a 2 hour video about a defunct product line i never owned, for 2 hours and never felt like it was a chore.
Dude, this was EPIC. I don’t think i have ever spent 2 hours watching a single UA-cam video. Subscribed to you and i see that you’re also Canadian! Awesome man
Really appreciated the time and effort put into this video, very well thought out and very interesting to see the iPods story. Even though the Apple Watch is a fairly new product especially compared to the iPod that you did in this video, I would love to see a long in-depth explainer about the Apple Watch I understand it will definitely take some time to produce. If you see this Josh, thank you for taking the time to read my comment and to consider my consideration for a future video! Keep up the great work as always Josh!
this is a really awesome video. so thorough. I have so much respect as I know how much editing is involved in making a 2 hour video... so much love & hard work went into this. I'm an iPod lover since 2005 and my 5th Gen Classic is still working to this day. thanks for the heads up about Elite Obsolete!!
Damn Good. Excellent production. As an iPod fan I really learned quite a bit. I also have hope that they will re-intoduce a new generation of the iPod Classic. Maybe in 2025 when form & function catches up with nostalgia... I appreciate the sacrifice in time and effort it took to make this film. Well Done!
Thank you so much for making this video. Growing up and going to middle school and highschool when the ipod and iphone was so huge, and then learning everything this video had to offer, has changed my views on Apple tremendously. I have so much more respect for Steve Jobs. He was a pioneer, he changed the trajectory of life as we know it. Amazing. Thank you 91Tech. Thank you so fucking much.
I'm still using my iPod 5.5G as my portable music player, because it's great. I modded it with 128GB flash storage and a larger battery. Another reason, why i use this old iPod is my choice of headphones. I use 250 Ohms over ears and most newer portable players and phones have less power on their headphone jack, but the old iPod is able to handle it perfectly.
I received an blue aluminum iPod Nano for Christmas in high school. The one you were holding in the box. Seeing that box was extremely exciting. I remember thinking the colored iMacs were cool and we used them at my elementary school but we never had a Mac at home. I think my mom was convinced they were more of an education company for a certain amount of time. I think it was the name and the fact that you mostly saw Macs in schools at the time. I went from the Nano then to a larger Classic. After awhile, I got sick of dealing with Windows and picked up my first MacBook, ditched Samsung for iPhone, all when I got to college and earned my own income. I am firmly entrenched in the ecosystem now and haven’t looked back.
One thing that NO ONE that makes videos like this mention that back in the day, 1000 songs was about less than 5GB. But that was because they based that off of how many megabytes each song was back in those days on iTunes. Songs used to 2-3 megabytes. Now days, when you purchase songs, each song is around 10-12 megabytes each song. So that 5GB today wouldn’t hold a total of 1000 songs anymore unfortunately. And of course it isn’t 5Gb, it’s actually less than that just because they didn’t add the amount the firmware software to compensate for that but I am absolutely sure they can’t even do that today. But yeah, songs are much larger today because of the higher bitrate and quality of them when purchasing from iTunes Store. I now have mostly replaced all my old music with digital purchases from iTunes and they are much larger. This doesn’t matter anymore as everyone is moving towards renting music instead of owning it which sucks ass cheeks but I am so happy that parts for most of these iPods exist especially the 5th-7th generation and you can expand that storage with a micro SD adaptor. One last thing that also changed is that all songs used to be $.99 but now individual songs are $1.29 literally all full albums kept their $9.99 price if you purchase the entire album. I am a long time iTunes and iPod user and Apple Music on my new MacBook Air 💻 is really infuriating to use and really hate that they removed the ease of features that iTunes had for iPods. I have a 2011 MacBook Pro but I refuse to use both for just that although I may have to. I’ll see how it goes. YES!! iPod was the glory days!!! 😞
i fell asleep watching mkb and accidentally left autoplay on. ended up having a dream essentially “acting out” the comparisons he was making but they were extremely random. 12/10
I looked around the used market and got myself a First Gen iPod Shuffle (512MB) for $10 from private owner and when I used it, I just forgot how nice it was to listen to just music without the streaming service, having real buttons to skip through songs and use volumes. While smartphones and tablets are the norm, there is still something about pressing real buttons and being cut off from the internet. (yeah even better then offline mode imo)
Absolutely fantastic video! LOVED all the hands on of each iPod. Definitely making me want to go buy iPods now. Also I think the length is perfect, 2 hours is a good documentary as this was. Keep up the great work!
I think the legacy of the iPod Touch is still around in the form of the iPhone SE. It at least proved to Apple that there was a market for budget-oriented iOS devices and it’s really nice that we can look back on all of it and see where we are now. Great video Josh!
Amazing video, probably your best one I've seen! I can't believe I watched it all trough when I wanted to only take a little peek in it. Just shows how good of a youtuber you are and also of course how the story of Steve Jobs changed the world...
Really enjoyed your video. That last quote at the end is very inspiring. Some people worship Steve as almost a Demi god. Some people hate him for his abrasive personality. No mater what you think of Steve you can’t deny the huge impact his work has had on the world.
I’ve had my iPad since I lived in Michigan. I can’t remember what year I got it in but I saved up my money with my life coach at the time and bought it because I use it to track my blood sugar. I use it for learning and there are people with disabilities who use it for communication.
The iPod was my gateway into the apple ecosystem without me getting an iPod mini I would have never gotten into Macs and without getting into macs I would’ve never gotten into an iPhone. iPod was such an important product.
Update: As of May 10th, 2022, the iPod touch has been officially discontinued, marking the official death of the iPod line. I've done a video on it, just a quick retrospective: ua-cam.com/video/JWGuvImahts/v-deo.html
The video was very professional and movie length! Be proud, I could never make something like this.
I can somewhat agree with the unhappy people but also this is a cinematic masterpiece, covering the history and all models.
Thank you so much for making this documentary! This is why you are the best youtuber in the ipod community! Thank you
You did amazingly man, even if a few things couldn't make the cut to get in. So many of us viewers really appreciate all the work you put into this stuff
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The music, the presentation, the voice. This channel feels underrated for how good it truly is. I wish more people knew about your videos. I'm glad I found this channel.
This was more than a tv quality report
The hook was very good. Used attention grabbing terminology to keep those who may actually be interested in the video here. keeping those who cared about the video is better than just increasing view-count.
@@aaronrdaniels he still made a mistake he got that info wrong about Microsoft giving money to Apple he made a mistake bc that same time Apple was suing Microsoft that’s how they got 150 million Apple and Microsoft worked out something tentatively leading towards the 150 million
@@justinedge4834 … ok? He also skipped out on entire chapters of the iPod that are vital to the story. Just was commenting to say the hook was good.
1:54:38 there's nothing like watching a 2 hours documentary about the iPod and finding your own concept at the end lmao, glad you liked it! I agree that it's REALLY unlikely we'll ever see a new iPod, but it was fun to make that concept, btw I've been following your channel for a while and this was definitely one of your best videos, keep up the good work!
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great stuff josh. Basically a whole movie to celebrate the iPod 😳
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I'm blown away by how well this was done. Josh graduated from UA-camr to straight up documentarian.
I was NOT expecting to watch a 2 hour video about the 20 year history of iPod… But here I am after watching the entire video. Wow, I’m truly impressed and just subscribed to your channel! Great work!!😎🙏🏽
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I worked at Circuit City during the iPod heyday before the iPhone. Selling iPods was probably 80% of my daily job duties. People were constantly coming in asking for it. It was a fun time and I miss it.
Yeah back in the good ol days
I watched this documentary twice and love to go back into the nostalgia of this beautiful piece of dying tech. Seeing the 4th gen iPod always brings tears to my eyes. It takes me back to such a great part of my life. We can’t let its history die. Great doc my man, and I’ve been doing a project of collecting the old iPods. And creating a frame to place all them in. Thanks for telling us about eoe!
Thanks so much for the feedback- glad you've enjoyed the video :)
Comments like this honestly make my day, nice to know so many share a passion for old tech like this.
@@91Tech who would have guessed that the creator of iPhone and ipod was a Syrian descent
*Happy dankpod noises
Ahh a man of honor
Yes someone who “understands” ipods
Ah an old mate
Ahh a MAN of honor and respect
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This video is going to be a masterpiece I can already tell just by the intro
Amazing video josh you seem like a really genuine guy who just wants to share their passion with everybody! Out of all the youtubers who keep on looking at the future and the present, you're one of the few that looks, embraces, and remembers the past, and its so amazing!
Looks like 91 techs magnum opus video. I can tell a LOT of love went into this. Thanks Josh. I truly love your videos!
This incredible art piece you have created documenting such a huge monumental 20 yrs for Apple has brought me so many feelings. I was born in 97, so I grew up right in the middle of the Steve Jobs Era for Apple. As a young tech enthusiast during that time, Apple captivated me and I fell in love immediately. I still remember the day I got my first Apple product and that was the iPod Nano 4th gen. Then exactly 1 yr later I upgrade to the 5th gen with the camera. I couldn’t get enough. There is just something about Apple that continues to captivate me still to this day, and I believe that is the fact that Steve Jobs still lives on throughout every product that is released. Steve was an incredible man, stubborn at times, but incredible. He’s an inspiration to me everyday. I am a huge Apple Fanboy now and an even bigger tech enthusiast and that’s is thanks to Steve. He changed my life. I know I’m rambling again this point, busy I just want to say thank you. You’ve made my heart so happy with this video. Thank you thank you thank you!!
LOVE the 3rd gen iPod. I got it 18 years ago today for Christmas. I was 17, it was a 10gb model, and cost my mom 299 before tax so needless to say it was the only gift I got. I love that button arrangement. I don't hate any other design but the 3rd gen will always be my favorite. I had the inline remote as well and it was very useful. It had a clip so you could attach it to your shirt or jacket.
I notice IPod Touch Seventh Generation has mostly been disappeared from Apple's website now, possibly eliminating it - an amazing history of an epic market defining product - thanks for this well researched and produced YT documentary on the history of it. :)
That’s so depressing
Its still there if you scroll down all the way to the bottom, in the leftmost column, although amusingly it still says on it's page "checkout iOS 14 the most advanced iOS ever!"
me and my friend used to use her ipod video to listen to music otw to school. i have sm fond memories of those moments in elementary school cuz the ipod was so cool to me.
Really, really solid video. I hadn't though much about my ipods from...oh 15 years or so ago in a long time, but this video made me pretty nostalgic for them. You should be really proud of making a two hour video that still managed to feel concise the whole way through. Keep up the good work.
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My dad still uses his gen 1 ipod nano. Always used a case so its unscratched and the wheel is still soft. Nothing has justified an upgrade, its never broken, and the battery still works. Its still a decent lightweight mp3 player 15 years later.
I feel like Steve would have did something new to the iPod and wouldn’t have given up on it!
No it’s a failing market with everything you have available in an iPhone there’s really no reason to go back to an iPod With all the innards of an iPhone you have more memory than ever and the quality of the music is just as good if not better now All ipod is now is a niche market for nostalgia unless you’re an audiophile but then you wouldn’t be listening to an iPod you would have a really nice expensive MP3 player with a nice dac system so if they wanted to make an iPod relevant they would need to make a very expensive version with a really nice dac system which again would be a niche market because it would be expensive for just an audio system so it would only be sold to audiophiles
@@TRIX-wn2sl that’s the point of the iPod to give people who love audio a product!
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Yes if they wanted to make it for a niche market sure but they’re in the business to make money and I think the only way they would make more money is by iPhones Would it be cool if they had one that was souped up for a Hi-Rez audio only yes that would be cool but it would be very expensive and not many people would purchase it
@@TRIX-wn2sl yes it would they could at least try!
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I think they don’t want to put too much in that kind of market because there are already a few players that are really good for a Hi-Rez audio I think they’re only more interested in their phones I agree it would be pretty cool they had something like that especially if it was affordable I just don’t think They’ll ever get to it or do it though
My Gen 1 was supposed to arrive today in the mail. It would've made for a great iPod day!
Wow a 2 hour documentary for the iPod is overkill! This is gonna be great knowing its from 91Tech!
@Lachlan James Ambler HD must not have been uploaded yet, I watched it in 4K....I mean obviously some of the old video clips aren't going to matter haha.
I’m super blown away by this documentary it gave a nice insight in the history and the little oddities of the iPod and Apple in general. It was really nostalgic and just superb i especially liked the clips where Steve is talking. This documentary really touched me and showed me again what an interesting, innovative and special person Steve Jobs really was. RIP Steve
Since Apple is doing the lossless music thing, iPod definitely could have a big return as the only device that doesn’t require any additional amp or dac to play lossless audio. Add a 1/4”and a 2.5mm jack, better built-in dac and bigger battery, USBC, an iPod Pro is definitely possibly (I’m not an audiophile nor have a pro music player, so I’m likely getting something wrong here).
That would be awesome and I would buy it right away!
The long time problem here is that the audiophile community is very small and unique.
Apple already has lossless audio codecs to play on iPod for years (ALAC and AIFF) which both available within the iTunes while you rip the song from the CDs so the problem isn't about the availability of the lossless codec.
The declining of iPod is due to the fact that mainstream consumers don't want to carry an additional device just for listening to music (which Jobs also predicted correctly back when phones started to have the flash memory and be able to play the music, around 2005 before iPhone). And with present day availability of lossless streaming plus the connectivity speed, the significance of a dedicated music player is on triple down declining.
I'm not against your idea of iPod Pro but even as an audiophile I won't buy it unless it could be more cost-effective than others in the market or at least not using proprietary program like iTunes.
@@new1412 I mean, Sony still makes a colossally expensive premium Walkman model these days, and Astell&Kern built their whole product range in that market. (Incidentally they're what used to be iRiver, if that's still a familiar name from way back when). So clearly there's *some* market for this sort of thing, enough to sustain several competing companies in the high price segment. I could totally see Apple getting into this, with perhaps the extra bonus of capitalising on nostalgia for the iPod Classic.
2.5mm jacks are rather niche-a 3.5mm jack would make more sense.
@@jdatlas4668 I mean, yes, there are some market for this sort but, again, the main question here is will Apple be okay for selling, like, 10k annually (if they're lucky)?
Also A&K and Sony doesn't (afaik) required a proprietary software (like iTunes) or port (Sony used to have but they (kinda) realized so just went along with 3.5mm), on the other hand the iPod culture is dying down due to the limitations from both of them (iTunes, Firewire & 30pin).
The nostalgia is long gone. The Walkman is still alive due to the demand in Japan is still high (and they're promoting it as a Hi-Res player which sounds so cool when actually it's just a capability to play a 24 bits audio file) and that's all.
Whoa I gotta buckle up for this one. Dude you’re killing it
Steve really cared about pricing. He knew to reduce for the iPhone 3G.
They were a bit pricy but not too much out of reach in contrast to what apple has become nowadays.
I already know this video is going to be Amazing. Keep up the good work, josh!
Thank you for sharing this , we had some much back them even Limewire , MySpace and so on thanks again
The 4th generation ipod touch will always have a soft spart in my heart as it was my first piece of tech. Wish I could find a brand new one just to have it lol.
@1:04:23 The original iPod Nano - IMO the most elegant, attractive design and true click wheel. Sigh, loved it but it was replaced before I could get one (was a poor student at the time, tho a friend got me the 3rd Gen iPod w touch buttons) and I never warmed to the look of the aluminum iPod Nanos that looked just like mini minis. RIP OG Nano!
Here in 2023, I still use a 3rd gen Nano daily. I'm pretty far from being an Apple fanboy, but this nugget is an amazing marriage of design and technology, and I still get a decent battery life out of it. I wish Apple were still a responsible company and produced stuff that stand the test of time.
I figured you’d make a video to commemorate the iPod anniversary, but you went and made a feature-length documentary! I think you did a great job, and the effort you put in was a great tribute to what really was a key moment in Apple and technology history. No iPod would have meant no iPhone and no Apple as we know it today. Heck, the company might not have even existed anymore by 2021. Kudos on a great video.
It’s hard to believe that 2 decades have passed since this revolutionary device launched
this video is about to hit the algorithm. 1 million views in no time
The iPod really changed the music world and I have so many great memories with it from the 4th Gen to the the 6th and even using an old iPhone 2G as an iPod touch back in 2008. Now iPods are back thanks to DankPods (though now he expanded to headphones and other MP3 players).
What I have come to realize with tech youtubers is that there are 2 kinds, one from whom you learn a lot, regardless of the subject, and others that ramble a lot but at the end you learn little or nothing... I could feel it but I couldn't tell what was different between them. Recently I understood, the ones from whom you learn a lot are those that know a lot about the history of technology. And you are one of them Josh.... Other youtubers review old tech, some even more often than you, but they don't know half of the stuff you do about history. As someone who is also passionate about the history of tech I can tell you that you videos are very enjoyable....and that's even more amazing coming from someone who has less than half my age....
I feel fortunate to have lived through that period in Apple's growth. It was really something. It was such an exciting time! Steve Jobs' keynotes were always an event that you had to experience. He really made the people excited by the new products coming out. Apple's marketing today is a bit too slick and polished and doesn't have that same feeling. Great video!
Outstanding video, loved this! Enjoyed the longer style video a lot!
I've always kinda thought the 3rd gen Nano looks like a bootleg of itself
"Voiceover" on the iPod Shuffle was actually a Beta test for an Accessibility feature that would eventually find it's way to the iPhone
Josh, this video is insane, literally Netflix documentary quality. I hope you make more of these!!
Jobs was great in those events, had good humor.
My first handheld device was a lime green 4th gen shuffle in 2011, which my mom accidentally lost a year later. To replace it, my parents gave me a iphone 4 (no sim) a year later, which lasted as my frontline device until 2016 when I got an iPod touch 6. At that time, it was an amazing device, and it lasted me until late 2017 when I replaced it with a iPhone 6s, both of which I still have
I’m using an Apple iPhone 12 promax 512 GB I got it for free what I did was I bought an old iPhone 7 then I bought an iPhone X and swapped it out and returned it to Amazon saying I got the wrong phone they gave me my refund so then I bought an iPhone 11 promax 512 when it came out I exchanged it the same way and now I upgraded to the iPhone 12 pro max 512 gigabyte all for free from a $100 damaged iPhone 7 Amazon won’t even question you if you buy a used iPhone from them return an old iPhone and say it was the wrong one they will give you a refund
@@TRIX-wn2sl wow you're cool
@@MultiColouredVagina
Yep I’m cool and I get free $hit I’ll be laughing when I upgrade to the next newest phone for free while you’re paying $1500 out of pocket
@@TRIX-wn2sl I found a 256gb iPhone 7 that works perfectly in a recycling bin. I might try what you said with it
That b-roll scene with the iPod sitting on top of the pre-special edition Star Wars VHS tapes got me. My childhood and young adulthood wrapped up into one picture...
Edit: Just got to the end, and THANK YOU for pointing me to the EOE website! That is awesome!
the best documentary video about iPod and i still use iPod Classic 6th gen. it’s awesome for me...
Very well done! This video was almost 2 hours and I was thoroughly entertained the whole time and can’t even say that about most movies.
Why the F would someone dislike this! I appreciate the effort Josh and really enjoyed this! Props to you
Seeing how long it was? I love it tho and wish dislikes were still there, but they gotta cover those covid alphabet news dislikes
I know I'm late but I just got my first 120gb classic iPod. And this brilliant vid has made me appreciate it more
Two hours for two decades
The iPod Classic was actually discontinued because some of the parts either didn’t make sense or became logically unobtainable in terms of costs. I think the hard drives, ironically the part key part for their initial existence, for the classic were to be discontinued in production.
This meant that either the price would rise for Apple to keep buying them from toshiba, or they needed to start production themselfs which both were ridiculous options financially for a market losing product which was well on its way out at this point.
This truly is the most detailed video on the iPod and the sate of Apple during the era of the iPod.
This deserves so many more views
Wow! That was so much fun to watch! I’m going to go to EOE and buy a U2 iPod like the one that was stolen from my office. It was my favorite possession at the time.
My grandpa still uses his iPod shuffle to this day. He loves cycling, and it’s the perfect size to take on a bicycle!
Here after Apple has officially discontinued the iPod lineup as whole for good :')
This documentary is literally the best about the iPod on the internet.
Its like ColdFusion video editing level!
Thank you for uploading such a remarkable video.
I still have and use my very first Apple product, a 1st-gen Nano... and I also got a second-hand 3rd-gen Nano last year. My 3rd-gen Touch was kindly bequeathed to my older brother (so he'd stop using a WALKMAN) and still works
Steve Jobs almost seems surprised at himself when he’s introducing new products. That style is amazing
Not mentioning the Creative Zen series, the Creative Jukebox or the Archos Gmini400/402 makes it seem like the iPod was ahead of the curve at all times and further ahead of the curve, when the actually were.
When the iPod photo came out, I was already watching movies on my very pocketable Archos Gmini 400 it felt like the future.
Regarding the shuffle, it was about 3 years late to it's party.
The MuVo series of players provided a better experience years earlier and around the same price bracket and size.
Hello! My wife and I we have LG, Sony, Samsung, Element, Skyworth and Vizio in the house right now. We enjoy all of them for what they proffer. I find myself studying my purchases now before pulling the trigger but when we have settled on the television that we want we get tunnel vision. Only you and your family have to watch and enjoy your purchases. So follow your heart! Keep up the good work.
I gotta say, thank you so much for doing this. For years I wanted the complete tale of the Ipod but no one ever stepped into the challenge. It was alway the years before the release of the first one or just focusing on specific models like the Classic, Touch or Nano and I always knew that there where tons on information missing, but here it is, someone finally made the video that I always wanted. You've just won a new sub and by taking a look at your content, some binge watching is on it's way as well!
Some people have the audacity to say that the Apple ecosystem is nothing but a circus.Looking at Steve Jobs on stage,I can honestly say that he was the RINGMASTER!
20 yrs for Apple has brought me so many feelings. I was born in 97, so I grew up right in the middle of the Steve Jobs Era for Apple.
What? Was it almost 2 hours??? I didn’t even notice that as I watched it all! Wow! Really well made video!
Damn i miss steve jobs.
you definitely have a talent in how you put these together. I have adhd but just sat and watched a 2 hour video about a defunct product line i never owned, for 2 hours and never felt like it was a chore.
Not a fan of apple and actually disagree with a lot but dammit he sure did have me sit in one place for that long
I watched at 360p because I couldn't wait. Love it. Great job, I was really excited for this and I am not disappointed.
What an influential and ridiculously iconic device the iPod was just like the CEO of the fantastic company that made it
I absolutely love the early days of computing. If anyone here feels the same way then go watch Halt and Catch Fire.
Honestly if this video was a Netflix feature documentary I wouldn’t be able to tell the difference. Great effort put into this for an amazing video
Watching this was like traveling over 20 years in a time machine.
Dude, this was EPIC. I don’t think i have ever spent 2 hours watching a single UA-cam video. Subscribed to you and i see that you’re also Canadian! Awesome man
Really appreciated the time and effort put into this video, very well thought out and very interesting to see the iPods story. Even though the Apple Watch is a fairly new product especially compared to the iPod that you did in this video, I would love to see a long in-depth explainer about the Apple Watch I understand it will definitely take some time to produce. If you see this Josh, thank you for taking the time to read my comment and to consider my consideration for a future video! Keep up the great work as always Josh!
this is a really awesome video. so thorough. I have so much respect as I know how much editing is involved in making a 2 hour video... so much love & hard work went into this. I'm an iPod lover since 2005 and my 5th Gen Classic is still working to this day. thanks for the heads up about Elite Obsolete!!
Damn Good. Excellent production. As an iPod fan I really learned quite a bit. I also have hope that they will re-intoduce a new generation of the iPod Classic. Maybe in 2025 when form & function catches up with nostalgia... I appreciate the sacrifice in time and effort it took to make this film. Well Done!
Thank you so much for making this video. Growing up and going to middle school and highschool when the ipod and iphone was so huge, and then learning everything this video had to offer, has changed my views on Apple tremendously. I have so much more respect for Steve Jobs. He was a pioneer, he changed the trajectory of life as we know it. Amazing. Thank you 91Tech. Thank you so fucking much.
2 hours documnetary? Let's go!
So much great information here, thank you!
I'm still using my iPod 5.5G as my portable music player, because it's great. I modded it with 128GB flash storage and a larger battery. Another reason, why i use this old iPod is my choice of headphones. I use 250 Ohms over ears and most newer portable players and phones have less power on their headphone jack, but the old iPod is able to handle it perfectly.
I received an blue aluminum iPod Nano for Christmas in high school. The one you were holding in the box. Seeing that box was extremely exciting. I remember thinking the colored iMacs were cool and we used them at my elementary school but we never had a Mac at home. I think my mom was convinced they were more of an education company for a certain amount of time. I think it was the name and the fact that you mostly saw Macs in schools at the time. I went from the Nano then to a larger Classic. After awhile, I got sick of dealing with Windows and picked up my first MacBook, ditched Samsung for iPhone, all when I got to college and earned my own income. I am firmly entrenched in the ecosystem now and haven’t looked back.
Apple is just better and more Polished
One thing that NO ONE that makes videos like this mention that back in the day, 1000 songs was about less than 5GB. But that was because they based that off of how many megabytes each song was back in those days on iTunes. Songs used to 2-3 megabytes. Now days, when you purchase songs, each song is around 10-12 megabytes each song. So that 5GB today wouldn’t hold a total of 1000 songs anymore unfortunately. And of course it isn’t 5Gb, it’s actually less than that just because they didn’t add the amount the firmware software to compensate for that but I am absolutely sure they can’t even do that today. But yeah, songs are much larger today because of the higher bitrate and quality of them when purchasing from iTunes Store. I now have mostly replaced all my old music with digital purchases from iTunes and they are much larger. This doesn’t matter anymore as everyone is moving towards renting music instead of owning it which sucks ass cheeks but I am so happy that parts for most of these iPods exist especially the 5th-7th generation and you can expand that storage with a micro SD adaptor. One last thing that also changed is that all songs used to be $.99 but now individual songs are $1.29 literally all full albums kept their $9.99 price if you purchase the entire album. I am a long time iTunes and iPod user and Apple Music on my new MacBook Air 💻 is really infuriating to use and really hate that they removed the ease of features that iTunes had for iPods. I have a 2011 MacBook Pro but I refuse to use both for just that although I may have to. I’ll see how it goes. YES!! iPod was the glory days!!! 😞
Just stream your music bro!
One thing that isn’t mentioned much: the iPod touch required a $15 fee for the update that had the App Store. Supposedly due to accounting rules.
This is true, that was a pretty annoying move on Apple's part. Should've mentioned it, forgot completely. Good catch :)
My first iPod was a 3rd generation 20GB USB model with the remote control, but the 20GB size wasn't mentioned here.
i fell asleep watching mkb and accidentally left autoplay on. ended up having a dream essentially “acting out” the comparisons he was making but they were extremely random. 12/10
I looked around the used market and got myself a First Gen iPod Shuffle (512MB) for $10 from private owner and when I used it, I just forgot how nice it was to listen to just music without the streaming service, having real buttons to skip through songs and use volumes. While smartphones and tablets are the norm, there is still something about pressing real buttons and being cut off from the internet. (yeah even better then offline mode imo)
Best video you’ve ever made, easily
The ipod is amazing, it comes from a time where Apple was cool and I love this old radical tech long live Ipod
Absolutely fantastic video! LOVED all the hands on of each iPod. Definitely making me want to go buy iPods now. Also I think the length is perfect, 2 hours is a good documentary as this was. Keep up the great work!
I think the legacy of the iPod Touch is still around in the form of the iPhone SE. It at least proved to Apple that there was a market for budget-oriented iOS devices and it’s really nice that we can look back on all of it and see where we are now. Great video Josh!
I would love to see a remake of the iPod classic
One of the best documentary about iPod I've come across! Great job!
Amazing video, probably your best one I've seen!
I can't believe I watched it all trough when I wanted to only take a little peek in it.
Just shows how good of a youtuber you are and also of course how the story of Steve Jobs changed the world...
Really enjoyed your video. That last quote at the end is very inspiring. Some people worship Steve as almost a Demi god. Some people hate him for his abrasive personality. No mater what you think of Steve you can’t deny the huge impact his work has had on the world.
I still have my Classic, the last 160 Gb version released, and love it.
I’ve had my iPad since I lived in Michigan. I can’t remember what year I got it in but I saved up my money with my life coach at the time and bought it because I use it to track my blood sugar. I use it for learning and there are people with disabilities who use it for communication.
I think the iMac g3 is one of the most beautiful computers ever
One might suggest that the Newton was a vision of the future.
I still love my 160 GB iPod Classic. I thought I was at the top of the world when I got it because it was at a time when iPhones had 32 GB at most.
This is just a movie and a great one at that. Also how long did it take you to edit this?
The iPod was my gateway into the apple ecosystem without me getting an iPod mini I would have never gotten into Macs and without getting into macs I would’ve never gotten into an iPhone. iPod was such an important product.