The TRUTH about the Nikon D6
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- Опубліковано 27 сер 2024
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Nikon’s $6,500 professional full-frame DSLR sports camera (sdp.io/d6) competes against the Canon 1DX Mark III and Sony a9 II…. but does it really? It’s WAY behind the competition, at only 14 FPS (compared to 16 and 20), 4k/30 with a 1.5X crop (compared to 4k/60 on the 1DX and 4k/30 on the a9, both without a crop). Overall, it really lacks in any innovation. It does, however, have an autofocus system that’s advertised as being better - but Nikon didn’t give the camera to a single independent reviewer, so we don’t yet know if it really is better.
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Take it easy for a while guys. I tested a demo model yesterday at Nikon Belgium and the AF really blows me away. I own a D5, D4s, D850 and tested both the Sony A9 and A7RIV. The AF of this D6 is just stunning. I never shot with anything like this before.
Stunning in what way?
What is diff btw a D4 AND a D6.....IMAGE QUALITY??
@@nickreid5939 Yes indeed.
@@nickreid5939yes and better AF.
I kinda like that they didn't give d6 some big upgrades, cuz now I dont have to upgrade and I can keep using my d5,
which I love!
jagannath mudaliyar same!
Lol
Still holding onto the D4. The dynamic range issues at low iso on the D5 sensor was rough. I keep waiting for something to really challenge it, but couple more fps and spotty blu tooth is not the droid I'm looking for.
@@josephparker4068 Some of my best photos I've ever taken were on a camera with about that same DR at it's base ISO and in of those photos the subject is 2 stops underexposed because I didn't want to blow out the background.
Tony sounded embarrassed explaining the love69 coupon code 🤣
Chelsea should have made him wear a devil costume and introduce him as Horny Northrup.
I always say for that number make sure your partner matches your hight... or it will 'fall short'...
May explain why they only have one kid...
It was "tacky and juvenile..." ( funny to 12 year olds).
Haha... #1 :))
So if you do not have it hands-on how the hell can you talk crap for 26 min about the Camera?
In the end, if the autofocusing on the D6 is better than the D5, then Nikon did their job. And the pro sports photographers will upgrade.
This camera would have been ground breaking in 2012. $6500 just tells me they are banking on capturing nikon sports photographers already stuck in their ecosystem with really expensive tele photo lenses.
Is there any reason anyone would rationally pick this camera over a sony a9ii assuming they are starting off with no sports lenses? Heck for 6500 you can buy the sony a9ii AND a badass lens.
"pick this camera...starting off with no sports lenses"
Thats a HUGE what if.
@@MannsWoodlandPerspective not really. If someone is just getting into wildlife or sports photography and is buying their first sport body, theres a good chance they may not have expensive telephoto lens yet.
@@waawaaweewaa2045 lol, they should be looking at a used D500 and a used Sigma 500 Sport if they want most bang for buck. No one is going to drop 6 grand on their first camera. That's such a low % chance in comparison to all camera sales... I can't even.
@@MannsWoodlandPerspective I didn't say first camera, I said first sports camera.....This could be someone thats been shooting professionally (or just a serious hobbyist) for a while and needs a body that is faster than what they have.
I said the same about the Canon 1DXiii, that his market was to the profesionals with a big investment in canon glass that will not jump ship to sony, now for this nikon is harder to think they can consider to keep on using nikon, many must be thinking that is the right time to trade their nikon glass and do the jump. If nikon had a future is in the Z system, they need to have a pro Z and pro sports Z glass.
I hope Nikon can dig itself out of this hole. We need the competition to drive the industry forward.
Sony seems to be the only company doing it. The old guard still on that BS.
@@ArtKingjr and what about Canon?
@@bosskoron6178 I am sitting in the light (not in the dark) enjoying Canon mirrorless & DSLR, depending on shooting szenario.
And I am heavily happy about tough competition across the brands.
I honestly hope so too, but at the same time I really don't see Nikon moving forward with digital cameras at the pace its followers are expecting. Their failure to acknowledge the future of mirrorless cameras (1/j1 series) and their failure of market prediction in action cams on top of them not adopting some features on their flagship while it's lesser prosumer grade body has it (hybrid mode in D6, silent shoot in D5)? just makes me doubt their ability to adapt in this ever so fast changing digital era.
@@bosskoron6178 Canon just blow out of the water the Z series and any other nikon with the new R5, oficial specs just released at midnight. Is a mirrorless 1DXIII with IBIS and is coming with 7 new R lenses including 1.4x and 2.0 teleconverters and a 100-500mm 😉
It’s the camera Tony deserves, but not the one he needs right now. So he’ll criticize it. Because Nikon can take it. Because D6 is not a hero. It’s a silent guardian, a watchful protector. A dark knight.
Ariel Glaze Nice 😅
Head to Steve Perry for a proper review!
Steve did a great review. Most of the reviews dated in February were talking off the spec sheets, so academic at best
Nasty pants.
Exactly!
If you want a camera purely for stills,and capturing fast action,the Nikon D6 is a powerhouse. The new auto focus is fast and reliable, the iso is unrivaled,and the cutting edge connectivity paired with clever software makes this a powerful pro tool. However,it's specs are uniformly outgunned by its two main rivals one of which is the Canon 1dx mii - and it's continued reliance on contrast auto focus for live view(and hence, video) is a big sore point. For working professionals already in the Nikon ecosystem it's a worthy upgrade; for those investing in their first pro body, there are superior options.
As a professional photographer your100 per cent correct, its not for anybody except us. Speed accuracy and getting the files out to your editor is number one concern. In fact we only shoot jpg’s. Get the shot move the picture fast that’s the goal. Your photo editor is god and you can’t keep god waiting.
Great post!
To me Canon is winning the "last DSLR" race here. As for me, I've moved on to the Fuji X-T3 and am enjoying myself.
@M D LOL. That's B.S.
@@matthewwells1606 Some people have never heard of a tripod or artificial lighting lol.
It's true though that APS-C sensors (all of them) are pretty bad if you are in a situation where you "have to" shoot at a high ISO and especially if your subject is a person! Take a portrait of your partner tonight when the light is low and you need at least ISO 6400 (although Fuji fudges it's ISO values to look better. When you choose ISO 6400 you're really getting around ISO 4000 on any other camera so try ISO 8000). I shoot APS-C too, so I'm not biased or being a FF snob. It's a physical fact FF is about 2 stops cleaner.
Great camera, BTW, your X-T3. No issue being APS-C if you use lighting or use a tripod, when needed. I'm glad you're enjoying it.
suck for astro and landscape in general
Matthew Wells not only that (cleaner image from a FF sensor). On my Sony A7 III, IBIS and the sensor sensitivity it has is on another level compared to my old Canon 6D.
nice for snapshots in good light
I love the D6 especially from upgrading from my D4's. I have one D5 but the AF doesn't seem as quick or accurate as the D6. For studio work it's hard to tell the difference between the D4 to the D6 except in resolution. For field work/sports the D6's faster focusing system and extra MP's really make a difference in higher quality photos. The auto focus works awesome especially with the 24-70 and 70-200. To much investment in lenses to switch to a new system right now but I'm consider going Sony in the next couple of years as will many pro users. Seems like Sony is taking photography & videography to a newer level than Cannon, Nikon & Panasonic. Like many pro cameras this camera is over priced for the amount of features you get when compared to some of the latest mirrorless cameras. Considering how Covid has effected most of our income and budgets you would think the major companies would reduce their prices to help out those that have supported them over the years. Just saying...
which Sony would you recommend?
I don’t think people watching this video will ever buy either D6 or 1DX 3 . It is fun to follow up but honestly most people who will buy the D6 are already heavily invested in Nikon and own a D5 and will upgrade anyway .
It's not that you have to upgrade, but rather that your D5 has half a million of shutter actuations, no paint on it and it's just not feasible to keep that camera running anymore.
Was going to trade in my Minolta SRT-102 on a D6 but fortunately saw this just in time...
bwwwwhaha ;)
Lmao. I got a SRT-201
Great camera, indestructible.
Ha-ha... the Minolta SRT-101 was my very first camera. I was in middle school at the time. I can't imagine how many photos I took with that camera.
@@wjfmarketing Mine too. Thought it would be the last camera I would ever need.
I’m shooting Nikon since 1980 and worked with all of Nikon’s Flagship cameras. Nikon never disappointed me. I love my D5 and I shoot it nearly every day. The picture quality is stunning and the sensor is big enough for every professional shooting situation. Can‘t wait to hold the D6 in my hand and work with it.
With the new software the images will get even better.
Es ist eine unglaublich gute Kamera, Freunde die die Resultate meiner Kamera kennen, geraten in Ehrfurcht in Anbetracht der Bildqualität, obwohl sie durchaus auch mit anderen Marken fotografieren.
I just started with photography in July and I got a d750 and I'm loving it. I just see videos like this and think what else do you people want? I have some old manual focus glass and it's super easy to use and super cheap. It's like you guys want the camera to do everything for you.
14 fps, 20 fps... Just be more selective with your shots.
I'm no pro by any means but great stills in sports, etc. have been taken for ages before all this fancy eye tracking, 20 fps sec, IBS, VR, etc.
It's true what you are saying. I think skills have been pushed aside for ease of use cameras doing it all for us. It takes away the fun of getting it right using skills and timing. It's why we have so many pretenders out there with pretty cameras, but no idea about photography, calling themselves photographers. Back in the film and DSLR era you couldn't get away with that crap. Without the SKILL you'd get poorly exposed out-of-focus images.
However, because the opposition offers so much more, Nikon owners expect similar options/performance. Especially if the Nikon costs more!
Yeah you started in july and half year later you talk about fps, manual lenses...
I started with a D5500 and went to photography club to learn, then after some time i found out the limitations of said camera. Came into some money so bought D850 after it had been out for a year, love this camera and it does everything i would want from a camera and more, plus the larger optical Viewfinder is really helpful when wearing glasses, i even upgraded eyepiece by 2x
@@milsamilsa-is8uv did you choose to not quote the part where I said I'm no pro. No you didn't because that wouldn't make your point as strong would it.
The whole point is that I'm new and I don't need these things. Pros from 50 years ago didn't have them and still were able to compose sharp, iconic images.
A carpenter doesn't need the most expensive hammer to hammer in a nail does he? Nope, it's technique, skill and experience that makes him fast.
I was actually shocked at how few improvements came to the D6. If someone told me they needed me to shoot a sporting event and I had to only use Nikon, I would grab a pair of used D5's and sink the extra money I saved into glass. This is a horrible release for a company that boasts a 100 year history of being a leader in imaging.
Exactly, Nikon gives you no reason to drop a D5 or even a D750.
Ich bin mir sicher das Sie nie mit einer Nikon D6 fotografiert haben. Die Nikon D6 ist um längen besser als die D5!
@@reinholdthomas1187 Das sehe ich auch so!
The math doesn’t make the coupon code less sketchy
who doesn't love 69?
@@curt8806 Love 69 xD xD xD LooooL ! Tony, i bet that was your idea ...
As a sports photographer I would love this.
Nikon seriously messed up on that one !
Why? Tony doesn't have a camera to review.
worse than just 'messed up' the brand is agonising ...
It's not released yet. This BS YouTubing is exactly that!
Are yoiu goiing to buy a D6? Cut the hype.
Andrew James let’s be honest : the improvements are minors vs what is available today. The D6 was meant to be the ultimate machine ! A reminder to all the monsters who is Godzilla. Am a hardcore Nikon fan , i was expecting more to be honest.
But why? This camera is a great step up to the D5? Why the hate? Is it just because it is trendy to hate on Nikon?
An excellent analysis. I am strictly an amateur photographer. I really appreciated the brief sally you made to the effect that amateur photogs would not appreciate this camera. I wold love to see you develop this theme a lot further - not particularly about the D6 but rather all professional oriented cameras vs quality cameras designed for amateur users. For example, work flow considerations are meaningless in my photography - I am delighted if I get say six really good pictures in a year. Control placement is not very important, for example. And I don't do video at all. I have never had a battery run out of juice on me. If it is raining I stay home.
I do value resolution. I dislike carrying a lot of weight. I *need* IBIS for a lot of my shots. I dislike huge, heavy, fast and very expensive glass.
I am certainly not typical of all amateurs, but I would hazard a guess that a lot of amateurs are pretty much like me. I for one certainly appreciate your recognition of the difference between amateur and professional users.
Cheers
Bob in Oregon Sports cameras are really the only niche cameras in professional photography. So much is sacrificed on the basis of ruggedness and form-factor to balance for massive telephoto sports lenses. When it comes to non-sports cameras, lower-end cameras are virtually never at an advantage versus higher-end. For example, there is no way a Canon EOS RP (consumer full-frame) could benefit you over an EOS R (professional full-frame). The point he is trying to make is the D6 and 1DX Mark III are called Nikon's and Canon's “flagship” cameras, but it's only nomenclature. In real life they're very niche cameras almost entirely designed with professional sports and wildlife shooters in mind where they make a ton of sacrifices almost no one else would consider acceptable.
longliveclassicmusic lol “professional full frame”
Sounds like you'd be fine with a FUJI. I certainly am.
I agree that the vast amount of photographers are not pro (meaning they are making a living with photography). They are hobbyists who might be willing to spend a ton of money on cameras, and to be fair these cameras today have features that hobbyists don't need to take a great picture, and most don't get six great pictures a year anyway.
D850 was Nikon's last best camera
The F6 was the last best Film Camera... lets be clear about that
no i have two . and the d5 and 6 are a different type of tough . warzone tough . the 850 is a great studio - all round camera , but the d6 is a supertough speed machine in any situation . where our normal daily clickers would wither and wilt .
That's like saying the claw hammer is the best kind of hammer. Cameras are TOOLS, and each one is better for certain things. As an owner of a D4-D5 and a D850, I can tell you the D850 is terrific but cannot manage sports in low light anywhere near as well as the D4 or D5. Not even close.
RD S honest reply! Thanks! I am mostly an outdoor portrait or fashion shooter! So yes D850 works fine for me :)
Sadly the D6 makes me even less sure about Nikon's future.
Yeah there's a future in medical optics for them.
Makes it even more certain for me... they’re going downhill faster.
As for their future, they're fine. Nikon is still top 3 in revenue, they're not going anywhere in the next 20yrs.
@@dct124 People told me not to buy Nikon because they were going to go under. They said to go with Canon. This was when I got my D80, in 2007.
maybe they are making another noct since that's such a winner
I'm fortunate enough to have had some hands on time with a production sample, and I can say that the new autofocus is legitimately a noticeable upgrade, though the camera as a whole is still more of a D5s.
Well, I've never owned a D5 or any other flagship cameras since film days. I just purchased my second D6. Absolutely awesome camera! the best camera I've owned in 30 years for the type photography I do. Wildlife and action photography. Absolutely the best low light high ISO camera I've seen.
Since I didn't upgrade from the D4, the D6 is a big jump for me. The built in GPS adds greatly to the attraction .. hence I wouldn't consider saving $ by buying a D5. The fact that they didn't change much physically makes it nicer for me .. less to get used to or present a problem switching back and forth between cameras. I'm happy it does not have a tilt screen, which I consider a physical weak point .. something that can easily break. I looked at perhaps switching to the Z6 and frankly the weight of the lenses put me off. And I guess I AM a captive Nikon customer with some very fine (and expensive) lenses that I enjoy and want to keep using. If I want more megapixels I can shoot my D810 or D850 .. different camera for different purpose ... and even though I might not use the camera at it's maximum potential ISO, I do find that at the same ISO my D4 photos have less noise than my other cameras at the same ISO (even as low as 2500) so if they have improve ISO response across the board I think that's a plus. I'm looking forward to learning more about the AF and how it works in Live View, which I don't use for action anyway.
So they are literally charging 3k for cf express!?
Also I like how everyone thought the 1DXiii was kinda okay but now in comparison to the D6 it's suddenly very impressive...
Cannon will be very happy to read your comment
“Kinda okay” lmao one of the best sports and wildlife cameras no one thought it was “kinda okay” it’s amazing
What planet are you on? The vast majority of comments in UA-cam rave about the 1DXiii. Even Sony and Nikon fans have commented how amazing it is, especially for a DSLR (and these are mirrorless guys). No one thinks it's just OK. I wonder which brand you use or are a fan of?
@@cooloox That's what I mean. "For a DSLR" and so on. Does that sound like the ultimate camera? No. It's just the ending of Canon DSLRs that people expected it to be.
Canon: let’s make our last DSLR great you guys.
Nikon: please god hope no one sees our D5 with cf express cards. 😂
2 things before I mention the differences between the D6 and 1Dx.
#1 The 1Dx Mk iii is a better hybrid than the D6 overall but if you're a sports shooter their identical in the real world.
#2 Topaz Gigapixel Ai can upscale & enhance to 4k or 8k. Keep your files small in the field unless you need raw and understand how to process raw video.
The 1Dx Mk iii just caught up to the D5 (let that sink in), only its video side exceeds the D6.
What's the real differences?
1080p 24fps; 1Dx Mk iii not supported.
20fps? Only in live view.
16fps? Real world 10.5-11fps.
1000+ buffer? Marketing for *robo shooting* trade off is battery life.
Time lapse? D6 only
60s to 900s shutter? D6 only
Log files? C-Log standard only.
Battery shots? D6 3500 (8600 in CH) vs 1Dx 2800 (most likely higher since 12fps is preferred)
Security? Built-in cable lock D6 (mostly for robo)
GPS? Global sync; D6.
Weight: D6 slightly lighter
Lens: 120-300mm f2.8 VR (new)
AF: no real world test comparison.
Dual pixel AF vs Triple Layer AF (fancy titles for fast and accurate enough for 99% hit rate and can see in the dark)
**AF is more on your lens than body**
Mounts: EF mount only; F mount only
Metering: Highlight metering*
Snapbridge: backup 2mp files to Nikon cloud server syncs to your phone for sharing, also automated to Lightroom.
Wifi/Backup: Tony; 'ZAPIER'
automates files dropped from any camera in 'photo mechanic*' (the PRIMARY Pro Photography browser, required for Olympic* Photographers) automatically sends/copies/backups to Lightroom Cloud, Google Drive, Dropbox, Salesforce, Flickr, Getty Images*, etc.
Eye piece? Circle vs Square
A9 II? Rolling shutter at 20fps and shitty buffer/memory/EVF lag/crap weather sealing/durability/unusable in freezing temps/low battery/not balanced for large lenses/poor ergonomics/unintuitive menu*, great price though, but Nikon and Canon make better lenses than Sony.
Between the D6 and 1Dx, most likely you'll be shooting mirrorless in 7yrs since both Nikon and Canon will have pro body mirrorless cameras and while it seems like Nikon didn't do much to the D6 from the D5, they didn't have to when you compare the D5 to the 1Dx Mark III, go ahead compare the D5 to 1Dx Mark III. Aside from video that's better on a cheaper C200 that also has the other log files (higher dynamic range, unlimited recording and cheaper) what are you actually paying for while stuck with EF glass and an eye piece that gouge's your eye socket?
I somehow feel like nikon is holding back the real specs of this camera. It just does not make sense.
Well, they got the specs up on there website for the world to see. If for some reason they were holding back, that would be even a worse marketing decision. To be blunt and honest.... "I just don't understand it" We will soon know if this was a nasty blunder.
They aren't holding anything back. This isn't a development announcement. This is the official announcement. Pre-orders are open.
And if you want a non-biased review try Steve Perry - someone who actually owns the camera and uses it to great effect, and doesn't do a pick / choose type comparison (you know, when someone slates the D6 for not having a, b, c - then states "the Canon is clearly better - everyone would choose it..." ignoring the fact that neither does the Canon have a, b, c (or d, e, f). nb Totally wrong about Pro Shooters wanting video in same body - when Pro shooters are carrying 2 or 3 bodies just to avoid changing lenses etc, then they are certainly NOT going to want to switch between video and stills on a single body (you can't do the 2 jobs at once!).
This is why I am upgrading to D850 from the D700. Just to get a few more years out of my small F mount lens collection and after that I don't care... I will switch to whatever mirrorless will rule the world!
I think you might be pleasantly surprised when you get a production D6 and try out the autofocus, the new organizational features, and the additional methods of file transfer. It seems to me that this camera would be worthwhile to professional sports shooters whose fleet of D5s are getting long in the tooth and who want fresh bodies for the upcoming Olympic games as well as for other sports applications. The time sync feature could help those photographers who deploy multiple bodies simultaneously (for example at track and field events). I sold my D5 recently because I no longer needed it for what I am photographing now, but I was always impressed with its ability to snap into focus extremely quickly and accurately, and I remember the discussions about the fact that the D850, with supposedly the same autofocus engine, did not actually handle real life situations as well as the D5 (maybe due to the separate processor in the D5). Name conventions (D5S vs D6) aside, it seems to me that Nikon tweaked their sports flagship, brought the connectivity along to more modern standards, and kept the rugged, indestructible nature of the product. They also updated the storage and battery solutions but kept them compatible with the previous (XQD) cards and batteries. I hope they also introduce an updated D850, which I would certainly buy. As you mentioned in an earlier video, Nikon SHOULD cash in on their high margin SLR products, which seems to be the case here, while maintaining the same price structure as the original D5.
I'm an amateur with a Nikon D3 since 2008 and I actually do hate the pro body. It killed my love for taking my camera out because people stare so much lol. It's so hard to be discreet with a hulking great camera. I'm looking to buy a new body but I will go for the standard size. Can't switch to canon because I have 12-24 f/2.8, 24-70 f/2.8 and some really nice primes. I'm still fascinated by the flagships though. I shot a few weddings with the D3 and it was so reliable. Thanks for the look.
As a D5 user, I would never upgrade my D5 to D6. I'm still going to keep my D5 though, and continue to use it. Even though I now actually use Z7 far more than D5. I'm very much looking forward to Nikon's upcoming mirrorless flagship. This D6 confirms that my D5 is definitely my last DSLR (and I won't sell it. I'll keep my D5 and all f-mount lenses forever).
What do you have now? Thailand Z9 with better specs? The D6 is only $4499 and a better camera for photojournalist like myself. I bought a second D6 and I am selling my last D5.
So, the 10.5 silent feature is useless, as said near the beginning of the video, or a good feature as stated later on.
Which is it?
This is mainly a pro Sport camera, they updated the D5 for Tokyo Olympics which was postponed.
The upgrades would ease the workflow of pro photographers.
Most people wouldn't need it.
And most reviewers are complaining it isn't a mirror less camera.
Talk me about the responsiveness of the body, lenses range to choose from or weather sealing of a Sony A9.
The more I watch this channel, the more I see a business enterprise... I should watch a real camera channel I guess.
So ture
Don’t be a nasty pants.
Lol I don’t know who this guy is but reading specs and give opinions is the thing right now!
The D6 is NOT a vid camera -- I do not agree "what Nikon Camera shooter's want is one body to do every thing" -- I agree with PP. I also carry a D850 for still and vid use. Never carry just one body - now with the Z7 i use 3 bodies -- Z7 for silent shooting. Built in GPs finally -- so that there are less leads/attachments to get tangled.
As you say lets wait to see hands on tests -- the Expeed 6 is interesting -- I want to see what Steve P and other wildlife photographers have to say. I want to test the WiFI/Bluetooth to dump test/check shots to iPadPro.
Canon was always better at Vid than Nikons -- but the D850 changed this.
Haha, I cracked a smile during the Valentine's day ad segment. Tony internally was like, "Someone save me"
You're not lying. Photojournalism as a stand alone profession is dead. My university was swapping to a multimedia curriculum and phasing out pure photojournalism. The news business demands that you be able to be a one man band shooting stills, shooting video, capturing audio, writing, online immediate publishing while still in the field. To be a professional journalist, you absolutely need to have reliable video features. The autofocus has to be solid to take up some of the slack because you'll be busy juggling 3 different jobs at once. That's just the pure truth. Hell, I've been published front page with an iPhone picture, but that was a static subject. You absolutely need to have the right tools for the job you're working, otherwise you don't get paid.
People in the comments act as if they were just about ready to cash out 5-6000$ on this camera, but since it's ''from 2014.'' they will withhold that massive checkout! Laughable!!! PEOPLE, THIS CAMERA IS NOT FOR YOU - LAY OFF!!!
And, no, Nikon shooters don't need better video - not for this camera and what it's for.
Magnesium is not that tough, it's just light for how tough it is. I've had magnesium bodies crack from falls. I feel more confident about plastic bodies tbh.
Same goes for lenses. Drop a Nikon lens, and it gets dented. Drop a (cheap) Canon lens, and it just bounces a few times. And yes, I am a Nikonian :)
I shoot a D5 and like it a lot, I was prepared to buy a D6 but seeing the specs i will probably wait for the D7 since i love shooting with a DSLR and i can't get used to a viewfinder camera. Also i was expecting a very silent mechanical shutter. Thanks Nikon for helping me save 6500$
Doubt there will be a D7........ever !
There will be ...Thats then the last DSLR,... at least i hope so
5GHz wifi biggest advantage is having many more channels and it is really useful in situation where you have a lot of people trying to broadcast their own wifi like crowded events or even a multi story residential building where each apartment has their own wifi
Compare it to a D500. Sure its only 10 fps, but you get 1.5x crop increasing your reach with every lens (important for sports) and it also does 4k30. For $1500 new, or $900 used, its worlds better than a D6.
As for 22:00: There is an interview with a Nikon executive about this by DpReview. In short, they interviewed their ambassadors and all the heavy users of their D5, and no one wanted better video, they actively told them they don't give a damn.
This pretty much mirrors what I see in many discussion forums and with people that use this kind of camera: They are actively annoyed by video specs. Now of course we are in the hybrid age and I use a hybrid camera to film myself as well. But about the video specs: the target audience that they have actively interviewed actively said: Heck no.
Of course, this may be different for Canon. As for HEIC: Yeah, of course this would be nice, but only as soon as the major browsers and agencies support the format. Which... may take a few other years since especially the browser manufacturer are not currently all well supporting the HEIC formats. Many in the community want a more open format to win this one. There is massive resistance. So is it an advantage? Uhm, yes no maybe. Maybe not for the people actually currently relying on jpeg so much. Would they actually benefit from this the most? Well heck yes, but since the infrastructure doesn't support it yet... not sure.
So while the argument you quote may be dismissed as being non-factual and dismissive, you know full well that a company should talk to a broad audience of the people actually using their products when developing. Not defending the lackluster camera I will never buy, but the big deal that is being made about it? Well, it really isn't. I'll actually hate on them if their actual A9 competitor doesn't add up, but for this one? Really, no Nikon D5 owner will say "I really with this was a good video camera." I know Canon people are different... but.
D5 shooter here. No compelling reason to move up, especially with
D500, D850 and D780 are Nikons best DSLRs in years gone. D500 has full width af and decent buffer but would love a z6 live view in their update if there ever will be one
I have been intending to switch to a new camera system (from Canon Pro SLR's) and have been waiting for an announcement from Nikon. I feel like this is Nikon's last big hurrah in the SLR market and this makes it really difficult to consider a whole new set of lenses to match a last-of-breed body. Thanks for the competitor comparisons in the video!
Well no reason to change now yet i think. Ill wait for the next pro Z camera, and hopefully good pro lenses. The sharpness is way better on the nikons glass, just hope they dont go bankrupt! I dont need 20fps, most i used in my life was 3-5fps rarely. So good video + good quality photos, all i care about. I love the colors that nikon and canon produces but the sony are lame in that regard
Somehow this is the first video that UA-cam shows me on the front page for months.
Tony, I'm not for certain, but if you tested the D5 with any "G" type lenses, which I'm sure you probably did, you won't get more than 10fps due to the mechanical aperture linkage. Only the newer "E" type with electronic aperture's can achieve more than 10fps. I have the D4s and I've tested it with both types of lenses and I get 10.5 fps with my 400mm f2.8E FL and only 10fps with my 58mm f1.4G lens. The camera is rated for 11fps, but I've never achieved that number in my testing or real world usage, even with E-type lenses, probably for the reason you mentioned. Canon of course does not have this same problem as they have always used electronic aperture's in their lenses.
Also, as far as the "sensor" not changing, a camera is not a sensor, it's an image processor and there have been major improvements in the past few years in that regard. AD converters, SNR firmware, newer faster processor, new micro lens array, etc. all contribute to improved image quality and noise performance.
I do not really understand why they do not replace the 35mm format by a square format. People crop their photos anyway. Then there is no need anymore for two handgrips to turn the camera 90 degrees => much smaller body.
Love the DOF in the video. For some reason the video looked sharper as well. Great work. Loved the content to. I thought the D6 announcement was an early April Fools joke. Oh well. On to the EOS R5
You liked the Tony in the video you mean?
@@JoeMaranophotography lol.
Good assessment, Tony. I bought the Nikon D5 the day it was released in Australia back in early 2016, and it set me back $9,000 AUD. The same camera shop emailed me a pre-order for the D6 for $11,000 AUD. I never thought for a minute the price was justified, and I can only come to the conclusion it's a last-ditch effort at grabbing cash from unsuspecting customers. I haven't upgraded my D800E, and I'll be eagerly awaiting the upgrade to the D850. In the meantime, I'll continue to enjoy shooting with the D5, although the auto-focus on my D800E is rather cumbersome!
GPS seems good, especially when you’re traveling around little medieval towns in Europe with a rental car and you have no idea where you are.
Most people would probably use a smartphone to navigate around medieval European towns. But you could of course take a picture, write down the GPS coordinates, send a carrier pigeon to your medieval astronomer and wait for him to get back to you with information on your location.
Matt did story about the camera, he says it's amazing camera if it was 2014
When we compare this cameras with the Olympus M1X or the new OMD M1 MarkIII, with they capability, more i love Olympus.
I use them side-by-side sortof. The big Nikon and f1.4 primes come out when the ISO gets a bit too high. Otherwise, Olympus handles everything, especially with the C-AF of the new OM-1.
Spec sheets are one thing. I'll wait for actual comparison testing. Maybe the high ISO performance will trounce Canon. Maybe the new auto-focus really is that much better.
My only complaint isn’t about D6 per se. It’s why couldn’t D780 offer GPS? For the price of the D780 and no GPS, no IBIS, only 24 MP, and got rid of internal flash, I think I rather wait for Z6 successor or see what Canon EOS R Mark II does. I’m not tied down glasswise so I’m really befuddled what to do so I can grow with it for next 10-15+ years.
Is it possible that the D6 is just like the D5 because Nikon new that the market for this camera is not as profitable as the lower end like the 780 and instead they are spending all their time, researching and developing their new amazing and wonderful mirrorless cameras? hopefully :-)
I'm glad i left Nikon in time.
sounds more like Nikon has left us...
2014 wants its flagship camera back
The reason to purchase a D3, D4, D5, D6 is it's AUTOFOCUS.
The same goes for the 1Dx1, 1Dx2, and 1Dx3. You're buying it for the AF system, not the video, fps, megapixels etc.
Pro sports shooters could still shoot at 4mp if they wanted to especially in today's world of online sharing and the decline of print. Images in newspapers around the world are less than 4mp. Online especially social media are 2mp files max.
The only purpose for high mp these days is for cropping.
I'm sort of the target audience, being a sports shooter with a D3S/D4/D4S (plus D850+z6)
I didnt upgrade to the D5 as i prefer the D4 series low ISO performance (most of my work is daytime) and just not worth the $$'s
The D6 doesnt excite me, and as you said they just dont have the R+D money or desire to do better, its a bit sad - but clearly they had to do "something" given the competition and Olympics coming up.
Not at least putting the Z6 sensor/live view AF system in is a joke - the D780 gets it and makes it a true viable stepping stone.
I whole heartedly expect that they are now focusing on the D7(or equivalent Z model) that hopefully had a Dx series body but filled with improved Z6 goodness inside it - better AF, dual slots, stronger build etc - thats what will keep Nikon shooters going.
I find it amazing that people like Tony will rattle on for 25 minutes about a camera that is not available yet and which he has not seen or tested. The video is just a carrier for his adverts.
LeRoux Malan welcome to UA-cam in 2020
You are right in suggesting this is a D5S, I think not increasing the sensor to say 24mp is the biggest disappointment for me, I really don't think I will use the all the other new features. I am currently a dedicated D5 shooter and am now eyeing up another new D5 as the prices are getting ridiculously low. It is the toughness and reliability that I need!
my toughts? The best thing about the Nikon D6 is that used D5, D4s, D4 will go even lower.
I am shooting a D4Sand a D5 and was thinking about the D6. However, your review was enlightening. I was waiting for better video so it looks like I don't need the D6. I've watched a lot of your videos and you do a great job. I appreciate your knowledge and your candor. Doug
Hope they bring D7 just in Time for Olympics
Too busy developing the Z8 😁
Is that a 600mm Tony 4 ?
You said the Canon R5 8k with ibis was FAKE! Still standing by that?
yeah bro😂
8k becomes true
Yes indeed
I think the 200 JPG buffer is a typo. Even the D5 had a 200 NEF (RAW) buffer like my D500. I can not believe the D6 is that much worse... Of course I do not know it but I think the D6 can 200 RAWs too
I left Nikon for Sony three years ago and I don't think I'm coming back anytime soon...
I considered doing the same three years ago, but Sony didn't have the glass. Now they do. I jumped in Oct. 2019.
Here's something many of you are probably not considering; not every Pro out there is replacing his camera every time a new model comes out. Not everyone has the budget to buy new cameras that often. The D5 is still a very capable and useful camera. More likely the photog with a D4S or a D4, or even something earlier will be the biggest buyers of this new camera. The D6 is definitely a major upgrade for these people. Only time will tell how well this camera will sell.
I believe your list of "reasons why" is spot on. I am neither surprised nor disappointed in their decision to abandon the fight for DSLR flagship superiority. The current D5 gets the job done now and for Nikon's survival, mirrorless is both the present and future. Spending every available dollar on improving the performance of the Z-line bodies, to attract future buyers, is primary.
"Well done Troll."
i still think it's valid to point out that if you don't like this camera and were wanting more, you are probably not the type of shooter it is designed for.
- EVERY camera review ever done will include the "wanted more" segment
It's designed for high speed, high performance. The people it's targeted at are the most disappointed of all. Why would I, as a person who is totally uninterested in this type of camera, be disappointed?
So it's the opposite to your logic. Those it's targeted at are the truly disappointed. It's aimed at those people and didn't meet their expectations.
Love edition Nikon D69. Fast focusing points for fast action.
I disagree that Tony that non-professionals wouldn't enjoy using this camera (2:50). I upgraded from my D90 to a D4 and have absolutely loved using it over the years. It was noticeably better in many ways and more fun than the D90, despite my limited skills. The fact that the D6 doesn't seem to be huge upgrade from the D5, it is still going to be a phenomenal camera!!! My D4 still is a mind-blowingly good camera, especially for action based wildlife photography, so I can only imagine how good this will be!! I think people are spoilt.
is the 31% discount have anything to do with Proverbs 31?
Wow. Good brain you have there. That's got to be what it is, because there's no other reason for it. I love how he sneaked that in there where they don't give the anti-Christian trolls a bone to chew on but can still reference a truly beautiful, praise-filled Bible passage about “a wife of noble character” to compliment Chelsea publicly, even if very discreetly. Bravo to that…
I'm still shooting 2 D2hs in 2020. 1 with the 60mm micro, 1 with the 85mm 1.4.
Picture quality still excellent. 4 MP enough for internet. Same body as the newer Nikon D's.
Will "upgrade" to D3 when 1 of these dies.
I think you missed the math a bit on the display resolution. Sounds like it will have a 1900x1200-ish display, not 1024x768.
Canon had function to set the time from GPS on compact cameras already in 2011. However later they dropped the GPS and went to GPS through phone which is a nuisance. Every time you need to connect two devices it is a hassle.
Thanks dear Tony ... Just one comment regarding your new camera angle ... your screen and camera on the table block the viewing of the screen ... Nevertheless the video quality is great ... I like the colors and the depth of field
That bothered me too
What I hear is: Nikon is making more cameras and lens.
What I actually hear is: Nikons existing gear is get cheaper.
In conclusion that means prices are dropping. Therefore, I’m getting closer to owning a full frame camera at this point. I’m kinda of following the videos and articles like a financial planner. Reading and watching, enveloping all the information I can to develop myself a plan forward.
It seems like Nikon D series engineers have been developing the D6 in an underground cave for all these years then they emerged and proudly introduced the D6 to the world expecting some jaws to drop without realizing that their competitors have already left them in the dust.
Hey Tony, just a quick FYI, the HEIC format you referenced is actually HEIF. Eventually it will take over the 8 bit jpeg format as HEIF is 10 bit at roughly similar file sizes.
Cheers!
...but does it have a flippy screen???
I hope that GPS works that well. However, my experience with it is you have to select how often it updates from the satellite...and I typically use every 1 minute. And if you're moving, the time might be right, but the location is off the mark...but if standing in one spot they're likely to be pretty accurate.
even though you say you try to look at it from the target audience point of view - you dont.
forget about the whole "this is the best of and for everything" mindset - this is a pure action/sports and a little bit a wildlife cam. there is no cam which is good at everything - maybe for an amateur.. like a sony a4 - which is good at somehow everything - except with delivering quickly and working in a tough environment
action shooters don't need IBIS
pros who offer lots of services are usually not doing this in a sport setting - so this is not the right cam for them. and from pros i expect anyway to have dedicated cameras for each function. eg a busniss photographer and video grapher for company portraits, product photos and videos, or a wedding tog - all not the target audience
at a sporting event you have anyway multiple poeple and crews to cover photo and video - no one is switching jobs and uses the same camera
this camera is for action shooters under time pressure, for people working for the press - Togs that need the hob to be done quickly and efficiently
funny thing is - you startet the video emphazing exactly this and then completly forget about the longer the video took
this is not a "buy the most expensive camera and your good for everything camera" - this is a very dedicated tool for specific kind of jobs
good points, if not for Canon's 1DX Mk III
D6 is not for me. Even as a working photographer, I'm not a sports or auto racing guy. So while this is interesting, I'm not the target demographic.
I AM waiting on a Z5 pro model. As long as it has dual slots & battery grip. Till then my current equipment is more than capable.
The issue is not the specs but rather the initial price which does not match the actual features. As usual, it will adjust to the market maybe at 5.5k or less and many people will be eager to sell their d5 for 3.5k and add 2k to upgrade
Several days ago on my birding route, I saw an enthusiast photographer with a D6 and a Nikkor 500 mm prime (with a teleconverter). Gosh, he looked super pro with the heavy duty monopod with a gimbal head.
I'd think he'd be mad if he knew a big bargain Sony a7 III body (sensor) gives higher quality wildlife images, with over 3 MP more in the a7 III. Details (resolution) and shadow recovery are critical with photos of wildlife in the wetland or forest.
It seems some with deep pockets believe the more expensive, the better. Yet a D6 is crafted for sports and studio professionals, not general purpose or high resolution requirement wildlife and landscape niches.
A D6 is the camera to have when a massive pro baller runs over you on the sidelines. But God save the lens.
FYI: The display monitor and in some cases important information is being partially blocked by your computer monitor and other objects you place on your table.
I can guarantee you he already knows.
As you mention towards the end some people are invested in Nikon and will have a hard time switching systems. As a Nikon shoot, my "sunk cost" in gear and lack of "deep pockets" to change systems keeps me in Nikon. I'm beginning to think of Nikon product iterations as "kickstarter" types of tactics. Nikon promotes an iteration which has some novel features, but does not address the real demands of users while implying that it will in future iterations. Thus, the consumer buys in good faith waiting for the iteration with desired features (yet they never arrive). Almost sounds like some kind of sick codependent relationship between two individuals.
So many amateur photographers on here. Good thing im a professional brick wall photographer. This camera will be just what I need.
I think you largely nailed it Tony. This camera is intended for the traditional Nikon pro/press shooter, and therefore is not the place we are going to see Nikon’s latest and best tech. While not as exciting, I get it. The future of Nikon is Z. The inherent optical advantages of the lens mount will produce more winning images over time, and we know (we do, right??) that a pro-style Z is coming. This is the camera we need to be watching for in terms of how Nikon sees the future of professional photography. All good stuff.
If you want a camera purely for stills,and capturing fast action,the Nikon D6 is a powerhouse. The new auto focus is fast and reliable, the iso is unrivaled,and the cutting edge connectivity paired with clever software makes this a powerful pro tool. However,it's specs are uniformly outgunned by its two main rivals one of which is the Canon 1dx mii - and it's continued reliance on contrast auto focus for live view(and hence, video) is a big sore point. For working professionals already in the Nikon ecosystem it's a worthy upgrade; for those investing in their first pro body, there are superior options.