As an former Iraq combat vet I can appreciate tactical flashlights and have used them in that role. I have the P25. Like it alot except for the tail cap switch which should be INTERGRAL WITH THE MODE SWITCH! It's idiotic to me to have a separate mode switch, which effectively makes one handed operation/mode cycling impossible. Hopefully the designers will change that on future models. Great video btw.
I agree with you on charge ports. However, I'd like to see the entire industry move to the Fenix TK20R v2 style of port, where it can only be accessed by spinning the metal o-ring cover off the "concealed" type C port. That's more convenient than a port on the battery, and even more convenient than ones that have it under the head, cause you essentially have to disassemble it like you said. I just reallllyyy don't trust rubber flaps a lot of lights have these days.
I would definitely like to see more systems like that. I remember Nitecore also had a line with really solid metal rings that threaded over the ports to seal them, it was a nice design. My only reservation with that is that it's very bulky, and makes it harder to implement a second button. I would like to see more manufactuers put effort into those types of designs. I also really dislike when the port is within the threads itself, as it makes crossthreading easy and allows silicone and gunk from the threads to get into the port itself. Compare that to a really solid rubber cover like the ones used by Wurkkos, which are low-profile but seal super well. The USB-C port itself can also be water-sealed, the MK38 has a naturally waterproof port with an additional rubber cover over it. Anyways I normally despise the rubber flaps, but Wurkkos has sort of turned me around and I would probably prefer those to the batteries with ports, unless durability is the main consideration. But personally I just use external chargers anyways :P
I think Hank has set the gold standard for several metrics, one being the button. The raised or not bezel is easily found in the dark but the button itself is a capable light which has a few jobs. You mentioned the charging port under the cap and my Sofirn headlamp has that and it is very convenient. I don't use them, I just change batteries and use a real charger but if I'm at work, out of batteries, I like it. A lot of much cheaper lights have those emitters and I think $40-60 would be more reasonable for these lights. $50 at Astrolux gets you a searchlight in the FTO2S, Anduril 2 and four emitters, but yes a bigger battery too. Taste is funny. I am not a fan of the cement look and I have some colors like sand, green, cyan, blue and red and gray but not that one. It looks kind of green, is it more neutral? Great review, always enjoy your content.
Glad you liked the video! The cement color is pretty neutral but looks a bit brownish compared to my other MAO lights. I agree the price seems rough compared to the enthusists options, but those lights are simply not built to the same level that these are. The drivers are also not as efficient, the P25V2 in particular is especially high-quality, and I don't think they could get away with selling these at $60 without hurting as a business. I think $80 is a reasonable price however
@@LuxWad OK, good to know. How is the heat-in-the-hand factor? Did you mention that? Sorry if I missed it. I would guess though an efficient driver would keep things cooler
As noted, I also really like a hidden C port that doesn't rely on rubber doors, which I truly despise because they disorient and mislead when locating the power switch and every time I use one (rarely) I think, this is the day it breaks off. It's as unnerving to me as would be getting in a boat with a cork for a drain plug. Also, I think the not remembering turbo on power on does have some safety advantages, but if you are returning to it repeatedly that would be aggravating. I'm kinda cheap about using turbo in general so wouldn't bother me. I unscrew my caps anyway. Thanks for the vid!
Just getting into the hobby and watching your reviews is a great way to learn more about the different options out there. Would be nice if you were a bit more open about if you bought the lights yourself or whether they were sent for free. An overly positive review without this mentioned comes off a bit too much like you're shilling for the company. I have no issue with paid videos, free products or included ads in your videos as you have to get paid somehow but please just make it a little more clear
Thanks for the feedback, it is very helpful. This has been difficult for me to balance, while I try to make it very clear that lights have/have not been sent for review, I find (as a viewer) that it just takes up a lot of time and gets annoying, so I'm trying to find a more efficient way to disclose that without losing clarity. I have been placing the disclaimers towards the end of the video since early retention is very important, but IDK how that has been affecting the overall impression of the review.
@@LuxWad I find especially when watching a channel that's new to me who's stance I don't already know it's worth the 2 seconds at the start to hear I bought this light with my own money", "X company sent me these lights for review" or "X company has sponsored this video to showcase their new line of lights, more in depth reviews to come later". Love your content nonetheless though and your cinematography is amazing
Seeing Luxwad post absolutely makes my day!
yep
Would you say it *brightens* your day?
@@LuxWad lol nice
P25 with the stonewash looks straight up like a lightsaber. Always love the posts Lux
As an former Iraq combat vet I can appreciate tactical flashlights and have used them in that role. I have the P25. Like it alot except for the tail cap switch which should be INTERGRAL WITH THE MODE SWITCH! It's idiotic to me to have a separate mode switch, which effectively makes one handed operation/mode cycling impossible. Hopefully the designers will change that on future models. Great video btw.
I agree with you on charge ports. However, I'd like to see the entire industry move to the Fenix TK20R v2 style of port, where it can only be accessed by spinning the metal o-ring cover off the "concealed" type C port. That's more convenient than a port on the battery, and even more convenient than ones that have it under the head, cause you essentially have to disassemble it like you said. I just reallllyyy don't trust rubber flaps a lot of lights have these days.
I would definitely like to see more systems like that. I remember Nitecore also had a line with really solid metal rings that threaded over the ports to seal them, it was a nice design.
My only reservation with that is that it's very bulky, and makes it harder to implement a second button. I would like to see more manufactuers put effort into those types of designs.
I also really dislike when the port is within the threads itself, as it makes crossthreading easy and allows silicone and gunk from the threads to get into the port itself. Compare that to a really solid rubber cover like the ones used by Wurkkos, which are low-profile but seal super well. The USB-C port itself can also be water-sealed, the MK38 has a naturally waterproof port with an additional rubber cover over it.
Anyways I normally despise the rubber flaps, but Wurkkos has sort of turned me around and I would probably prefer those to the batteries with ports, unless durability is the main consideration.
But personally I just use external chargers anyways :P
Have both of these i only use for emergencies as you cant just manually cut the light off acebeam and only fenix are reliable
I think Hank has set the gold standard for several metrics, one being the button. The raised or not bezel is easily found in the dark but the button itself is a capable light which has a few jobs.
You mentioned the charging port under the cap and my Sofirn headlamp has that and it is very convenient. I don't use them, I just change batteries and use a real charger but if I'm at work, out of batteries, I like it.
A lot of much cheaper lights have those emitters and I think $40-60 would be more reasonable for these lights. $50 at Astrolux gets you a searchlight in the FTO2S, Anduril 2 and four emitters, but yes a bigger battery too.
Taste is funny. I am not a fan of the cement look and I have some colors like sand, green, cyan, blue and red and gray but not that one. It looks kind of green, is it more neutral?
Great review, always enjoy your content.
Glad you liked the video! The cement color is pretty neutral but looks a bit brownish compared to my other MAO lights.
I agree the price seems rough compared to the enthusists options, but those lights are simply not built to the same level that these are. The drivers are also not as efficient, the P25V2 in particular is especially high-quality, and I don't think they could get away with selling these at $60 without hurting as a business. I think $80 is a reasonable price however
@@LuxWad OK, good to know. How is the heat-in-the-hand factor? Did you mention that? Sorry if I missed it. I would guess though an efficient driver would keep things cooler
It definitely still gets hot, but it's not too uncomfortable. The E70 is a bit hotter at the head
The "Turbo off > High on" strikes me as a muggle protection feature. Depends on who these Cyansky lights are being marketed for.
Definitely seems to be the case, these lights are targeted more towards general users than enthusiasts (hence the cool-white emitters)
As noted, I also really like a hidden C port that doesn't rely on rubber doors, which I truly despise because they disorient and mislead when locating the power switch and every time I use one (rarely) I think, this is the day it breaks off. It's as unnerving to me as would be getting in a boat with a cork for a drain plug. Also, I think the not remembering turbo on power on does have some safety advantages, but if you are returning to it repeatedly that would be aggravating. I'm kinda cheap about using turbo in general so wouldn't bother me. I unscrew my caps anyway. Thanks for the vid!
when you said Cyansky, i heard " Science Guy." hahah... oh man it's early. haha
When is the new K3 coming out?
I'm afraid I don't know exactly, they just said "soon". I would expect in a month or two
Just getting into the hobby and watching your reviews is a great way to learn more about the different options out there. Would be nice if you were a bit more open about if you bought the lights yourself or whether they were sent for free. An overly positive review without this mentioned comes off a bit too much like you're shilling for the company. I have no issue with paid videos, free products or included ads in your videos as you have to get paid somehow but please just make it a little more clear
Thanks for the feedback, it is very helpful.
This has been difficult for me to balance, while I try to make it very clear that lights have/have not been sent for review, I find (as a viewer) that it just takes up a lot of time and gets annoying, so I'm trying to find a more efficient way to disclose that without losing clarity. I have been placing the disclaimers towards the end of the video since early retention is very important, but IDK how that has been affecting the overall impression of the review.
@@LuxWad I find especially when watching a channel that's new to me who's stance I don't already know it's worth the 2 seconds at the start to hear I bought this light with my own money", "X company sent me these lights for review" or "X company has sponsored this video to showcase their new line of lights, more in depth reviews to come later". Love your content nonetheless though and your cinematography is amazing
I'll pic wurkkos ts22)