I don't think anyone would have an aversion to you doing an Undertale letsplay. In fact, I'm pretty sure it'd end up being one of your most successful series. Essentially I'm saying I really wanna see a Mathew McKenna Undertale letsplay!
I feel like you probably shouldn’t have spoiled yourself by looking up context. Not only are you missing the full story, but it also means if you play the game to get the context you didn’t know, you’ve already spoiled yourself a great deal.
Insert Toriel and her very valid argument that he only had to kill 1 child to complete his goal of breaking the barrier, but he was too much of a coward here.
i 100% recommend listening to bergentrückung and asgore as one song! bergentrückung is pretty short but it adds such a cool vibe to asgore, bergentrückung comes directly before asgore in game so they’re meant to go together
@@IronEren because it’s meant to be like like and intro paragraph to a story, they are meant to be together part of the same story but the introduction brings you to the actual story
@@IronEren Honestly I kinda feel like Toby specifically made it so there were 101 songs listed in the soundtrack, with like 4 different versions of the "Uwa!" theme, Dogbass being included but some other short jingles not, Long elevator, etc. It also seems pretty in-character for him to be trolling a bit with the OST
@@IronEren because there's a pause in between where he talks and breaks the button. You control the dialogue so if they were together it would be off timing.
@@IMakePeopleSaltyApparently yeah but also full songs from the ost have been segmented for the game exclusively, your best nightmare, finale, the credits, undertale, his theme... so it's not like it would be impossible to put them together for the ost
"Save the World" is a continuation of the theme "Hopes and Dreams" , which I think you already covered When played in order, you get "Hopes and Dreams Save the World" which is kinda fitting for the moment they play
@@nileprimewastaken Maybe if you write it like that. But if you write it with who would be saying it, it would read like. Frisk: "Hopes and Dreams..." Asriel: "Burn In Despair!" Frisk: "Save the World."
@@nicholasholladay-elser7307 but why would those characters specifically be saying that why wouldn't asriel be saying hopes and dreams because his hope is to "play" with chara again
@@nileprimewastaken Well at that point Frisk is still hanging on and also didn't you say things like that when playing as the villain when you where younger? He's still trying to counter them but Frisk's determination is just too strong.
If you wanna hear a song that uses Sans' theme but more extreme, you should listen to "Song That Might Play When You Fight Sans"! Yes that's literally the title (Changed the typo now agh)
Nothing beats the reaction Matthew gave to megalovania. I rewatch that video just for his reaction lol! Glad to see Undertale soundtrack reactions back. The entire OST is banger after banger.
Asgore is a good person at heart. I’ll give you an idea of the situation he was in. The humans attacked the monster for no good reason and killed thousands while not losing one. They then sealed the monsters underground potentially forever, with only way to break it to get 7 human souls. And spoilers the humans then killed Asgore son, this causes I’m to declare that any human that falls into the underground will be killed. And Asgore doesn’t enjoy any of this, he’s a good man stuck in the worst situation.
I remember someone once saying that Asgore sounded like "a good person forced to do a horrible things", and I can't describe it better than that. There's tragedy in the melody, because for all intents and purposes, this is a fight that shouldn't have to happen, it's great. So many bangers in this ep, SAVE The World fills me with so much emotion due to the context in the game, it's powerful, it's great. Snowy is just Toby showing off in the piano and I LOVE it, it's beautiful, with this underlying loneliness, it represents its area so well. And man Fallen Down Reprise, that song gets me, it really does. Love, nostalgia, sadness, comfort, it's everything to me. Thanks for the reaction, always nice to see someone experience these for the first time.
I love how he's confused why every soundtracks sound similar to eachother, and knowing full well they are all mostly connected is making it a lot better to watch.
Most people that played the game knows this, but the UWA! Songs are all for the settings menu, and each one is themed around 1 season of the year, because the menu changes based on the season, so the So Temperate one probably is Spring if I'm not wrong, but there's also for Summer, Winter and Fall
If you ever make another part to this, you 100% have to react to “Metal Crusher”. It’s one of my favorite songs, and I’m honestly surprised you haven’t listened to it yet.
Asgore did horrible things trying to reach a good goal. He wanted so badly to free everyone from the underground, the children's souls were his only hope. PLEASE do not fight in the replies
Not really. He was purposefully trapping their people underground. Asgore only needed 1 soul to leave the underground and get a few more to break the barrier, but he refused and just sat underground hoping no more humans would fall into the underground. Toriel tells him this exact thing.
@FNAF Foxy He wanted 7 because he wanted more power. Which sounds bad on paper, but he most likely wanted that Godly power to take revenge on the humans / defend his own people for when the humans inevitably attack first and ask questions later like they did w/ Asriel. Excessive? Yes. Understandable? Also yes.
@@fnaffoxy1987 Asgore is an extremely social person who is also a terrible leader. He has no idea what to do in such a stressful situation that he was basically forced into, but because of his social skills, he conviced his people that he's got everything under control, He was genuinely scared of freeing monsters. Gerson straight up tells us that a long time ago they promised each other that they would abandon the goal of freeing the underground and that he's disappointed by Asgore for breaking that promise. The point is, Asgore has a lot of trauma and is just way too incompetent to be the king of all monsters.
@@fnaffoxy1987 that doesn't really change the morality for asgore's actions though. it was still for a good goal -- and personally i think he was moreso motivated by the need to keep his people from losing hope than the need to break the barrier. at first it was vengeance, sure, but afterwards he really couldn't turn back since it'd lead the monsters to despair.
@@onettaviator5396 Seven souls would let him break the barrier for others. There would be no point in only using one unless he wanted to escape alone.
A lot of the later Undertale songs are reprises of earlier songs with a twist. Some of them even combine a few earlier songs together too. It evokes a sense of nostalgia for the journey that you have been on and I love it.
The whole thing with Asgore "brutally murdering 6 children" is just a highly elaborate trolley problem. If you look at the scenario from the monster's perspective, Asgore looks like a hero for being willing to make the tough choices for the entire kingdom.
I think that Mathew not fully understanding the music by itself is a great thing and basically the whole point. The game and the music are two halves of a whole, the music makes a lot of sense with the context of what’s happening in the game, what happened before that song played, and enhances what the player’s feeling at that point of the game.
So the dark/sad undertones for the Fallen Down reprise are there because it happens right after your battle with Asgore, which you now have context for lol
You need to watch the Undertale orchestra performance sometime, it's amazing and truly adds to the songs when it's played live. Also yes Asgore is a "do bad things for a good reason" type of person, he didn't like killing the children but thought it was the only way to save his people
In all fairness, as Toriel pointed out, he only needed to kill one child. After that, he could absorb their soul, cross the barrier, and get another 6 of them from adult humans on the surface.
It’s Fallen Down. When you had first Fallen. Where you had first Fell. You always Fall after each Reset. But with that, you always try to remember your first spark of Determination. All feelings you felt, when you first fell. When you first met them All.
"I feel like I've heard this song before" well no, but also kinda yes. Toby Fox is a legend when it comes to leimotifs. If you want you should react to videos explaining the way songs in Undertale are connected because there is so much story told simply through the songs
this has definitely been said already but i think asgores theme is perfect not because he is redeemable but because of how he feels so much guilt over his actions. his actions are not excusable but they do not make him evil because of how he feels about it. he never wanted to kill those children and he hated doing it but with the deaths he witnessed and the pressure from his kingdom he got it in his head that it was his inevitable mission. but once he gets to peepo he is so broken down that he cant even bring himself to believe in that mission. and i feel like toby perfectly captured that complexity in his character and the fight itself
Mat, if you do another one of these, you *need* to listen to CORE and Here We Are. They are among my favourite tracks in the game and feel like they don't get shown enough in these sorts of videos
If you want more Undertale to listen to, the "Man on the Internet" UA-cam channel has some Undertale Genocide videos where lyrics were added to some of the songs.
Way to puch into listening to the genocide songs only when there's the entire musical that could be listened to. I know, it might just be your writing that could accidentally give that feeling, so watch out for how you phrase things. If it's intentional though, then meet me in the pit.
Once you're done with the soundtrack you should ABSOLUTELY listen to the 5th anniversary concert. A professional orchestra plays the whole soundtrack track and its amazing!
If you enjoy game soundtracks where you have no idea what's happening next or you don't know what you're supposed to feel, I would HIGHLY reccommend the Splatoon story/campaign mode soundtracks! All three games feature such a fantastic variety of genres and soundscapes, the music is so weird and I absoltely love it!
the Fallen Down reprise is still one of my favourite pieces because of the way I felt when I got to that part of the game. It feels like you've earned that happiness.
The high pitched part of save the world in the background is part of the song Your best friend, the theme of the character you fight in this boss fight
Also that "punk guitar" track, SAVE the world has other 2 "sister" songs, Hopes and Dreams (the OG that you already heard), and Last Goodbye, which embodies both of the 2. These ones have the Shreddage Guitar, which is the rythm one you hear on the background and is shared with Megalovania, and the "UGK" (ultimate guitar kit) guitar, which is the lead playing alongside a Square synth
Because that's the point of the Undertale OST, it's meant to make you FEEL things. Good things, bad things, doesn't matter as long as you feel SOMETHING. SAVE the world is not a continuation of anything BUT it is an alternate version of Hopes and Dreams that plays during the final boss fight of the True Pacifist route. The name is also a reference to the ability to SAVE the game 6:12 Asgore is the king of monsters, Toriel's ex husband and father of Asriel. Honestly, ASGORE sounds way better if you listen to it combined with Bergentrückung (Intro). 8:32 No it's not fine to murder 6 children, it's not fine to murder any humans. But I blame Toriel for him acting like that. If she hadn't left, if she had stuck by his side then maybe, just maybe, he wouldn't have killed those humans. also I wouldn't say Asgore brutally murdered the 6 humans. They had a similar story to Frisk. They fell down, found out how to escape, fought Asgore but ended up loosing against him.
That last thing is one of the things I love in the Growth Spurt Comics. There is like a small chapter that deals with this. For context, this comic deals with a Post Genocie, current pacifist run of the game. Its after the end of the game, and they somehow brought asriel back. He has some argument with Toriel about how she treats Asgore, and he yells that he should have the same treatment, since he killed people when he was back in his "old self" (trying to avoid spoilers here in case Matt didnt finish the game yet). So she goes to talk with asgore, and in that talk, we get to see Asgore still deals with the Guilt of murdering those children, and Toriel acknowledges that, if she had stayed instead of running, than she could had prevented the child killing spree. Normally the comic isnt that serious, its more of a comedy one, but sometimes they deal with this darker and more serious side of the game
@@Springy05 Interesting, I don't see a lot of people talking about that, they just instantly assign all blame to Asgore because he was the one that did the killing.
@@Ashurman666 the comic also goes through some other stuff. Usually its just fun and all, but the current "arc" the comic is going through is basically Asriel feeling guilty because of the stuff he did + Alphys being scared of him. Its pretty good, definitely recommend it
Your blaming Toriel for this...? She obviously was strongly and I mean STRONGLY against the whole idea to murder humans who fell down and made that pretty darn clear but Asgore Chose to inact the plan and chose to continue. For reasonable reasons and for a noble goal but you can not just blame Toriel for not sticking with the man who literally said "I will murder 7 Innocent People who all could be literal children to free my people" Its a complicated moral question in which I would support Asgores choice yet both have their faults as well as shortcommings but saying Toriel was not justified in leaving or that she was to blame at all for him doing what he did is just blaming her for Asgores own choices.
Can you react to more Homestuck songs? My recommendations are: "Pumpkin party in sea Hitler's water apocalypse", "Eternity served cold", and "You killed my Father (Prepare to die)".
The fact that one of the Uwa!! So ____ songs was included made me laugh very audibly, you definitely don’t expect a joystick config menu theme when it has a title like that
So Toby Fox is really into lietmotifs in his music. Really into it. Like, most of his songs have pieces of other songs in it. Hilariously, one of his songs from deltarune, Big Shot, is made from other songs as kind of a joke. It's actually pretty friggin impressive. PS, if you haven't already you should listen to the track Undertale. It's different but amazing.
OST starts with "Once Upon a Time" and ends with "Good Night" which means undertale was just a bedtime story. And the first thing you do in Deltarune? You wake up.
I don't think you've done battle against a true hero have you? I suggest doing an episode for the genocide run songs,they're really beautiful with that hint of sorrow and suffering Edit:you did do baath but I definitely suggest doing more of the genocide music :)
13:11 funny you say this This version of the song is *technically* the first. It was composed for a collaborative Earthbound/Mother 2 fan album back in 2012. That’s where like 2 songs in Deltarune came from as well(at least their leitmotifs)
Fallen down is one of my favorite not vocal songs the vibe i get from it is happy depressing and a feeling of uplifting but also the truth it gives you the unknown something you want to find out but also like you in a void of nothing just floating in infinite space of nothing the feeling of the song is so spaced out there is more than just a specific feeling your supposed to get out of it thats why i like so much i listen to it to dumb out all my messy thoughts into the calm void Also its eases you but also makes you paranoid for the unknown that why i love the song soo much its passion into the void into something we can never escape i just wanna lay down listening to is whilee i drift off the space it gives me happiness sad reality and paranoia for what is next what move should i make or do i just let my choices drift and just let it happen i don't really know but all i know is now the past and the happiness the song gives me
A Little fact ig- fallen down is one of the first songs in the game ( track no. 004) and the reprised version is closet to the end being no. 85. So it kinda comes back
One OST i recomend you listen to is the Mad Rat Dead OST. Some of my personal favorites are "Mad Rat, Alive?", "Plash Plot Gurgle", "Mad Heart", "Passion in Blue", "Kind of Hope", "Heartless Being" and "Mad Rat, Die"
Asgore is such a sad character. He did terrible things, cause he felt forced to do them, but the worst thing? Most monsters supported it, kings meant to do the right thing, after all. Sadly, Asgore isn't the best king material - he's liked by his people and is very powerful, but lacks mental strength to push through tough times. Maybe if Toriel didn't leave she could've change all that history, I kinda hate that she blames everything on Asgore... Anyways I love Dreemurr family and think about them too much.
Personally I think next step to go to when reacting to Undertale music (other than another Deltarune reaction hint hint) is the Undertale live orchestra that was done officially for the 5th anniversary. The entire games soundtrack was conducted infront of a live audience, it’s perfect for a reaction.
I recommend setting the videos to loop so you get to experience the song as intended. A lot of the songs give a different context to the opening when it loops back around.
Fun fact: the "uwa!" songs are all for the control configuration menu, and the music changes depending on the season! In winter its "uwa!so holiday!", in summer its "uwa!so HEATS?!!" and in the fall and spring its so temperate, which you heard. I think its a nice detail.
One possible reason Fallen Down might be making you feel a little uneasy is that it is composed in 24 TET instead of 12 TET. Toby Fox really likes microtonality.
god this just makes me want to see more reactions to homestuck songs. personally, i would love to see your reaction to MeGaLoVaNiA, atomic bonsai, Moonsweater, and maybe even PPISHWA.
There is an unused soundtrack in the OST called "star" its kinda simple but I love it! and if you dont know the story/never have played Undertale- id recommend people to watch a playlist/i think they have a fully story like video to, by "Man On The Internet" that did both routes and made "Undertale the musical"! its really good- and how found out about the track Star
To be fair, we didn't do "both routes", so much as did Undertale: The Musical in the Pacifist route, and then a No Mercy package because those songs are absolute BANGERS and it would be a disservice not to cover them-- plus some bonus adaptations mixed in. c: Star's a good one! It probably had nothing to do with the character we associated it with, but we had fun with that one. And thank you for the plug! I'm curious to see what he thinks of it if he *does* ever get around to watching some.
@@MLoreley I did not expect to get a reply from you! (I love your voice for Toriel!) its been awhile sense iv lstened to the musical so I apologise if I described it wrong! just the reactions to the songs had me thinking of it again! :3c
@@MonkieKatt Aw man, thank you! ;A; And pfft, don't worry about 'describing it wrong', I just wanted to clarify just in case. I'm glad that something like this reminds you of it. And man, I'd love to hear his thoughts if he ever DID choose to react to the musical, though I hope he finishes the game first (given some spoilers in there). c: Thanks again for recommending it!
0:31 "I expected something a little more playful I guess, this is kind of... Intense isn't the word? It feels soft and emotional." 1:12 "So low key.." Me: Ah, perhaps you mean 'mild'? 😉 (a synonym for temperate)
so, the original Fallen Down plays right at the start of the game. it's far shorter and focuses way more on that strange dissonance of being halfway between F# and G; you're in a completely new world, alien in nature, not certain quite what to do. the music throws you off and puts you slightly on edge because it just sounds wrong. the reprise comes right near the end of the game, and it serves to remind you of that confusion and uncertainty you felt at the start, but the second half of the song brings back the main UNDERTALE motif: you've grown as a player and as a character in this world. you're familiar with it, and it's not so scary anymore; you're almost nostalgic for the times where you were living in quite so much fear. toby fox does this all the time in his music, it's great. Also, the """boss""" version of 'sans.' you're looking for is 'Song That Might Play When You Fight Sans'. if you listen carefully, you'll hear that it uses the exact same melody! (it also never plays in the game)
Great idea :0 I especially recommend NyxTheShield, who does the soundtracks for both Glitchtale and Underverse, and SharaX! OH, and Disbelief Papyrus :D
I’ll recommend this because I *know* you’ll never get to it otherwise. “Mad Mew Mew” is one of my favourite songs in the game (and one of my favourite characters), but she’s exclusive to the Nintendo Switch port of the game, so her theme isn’t on the same soundtrack album. I do recommend you get around to it though.
1:58 this song is SAVE the WORLD, a continuation to HOPES and DREAMS. there's a fanmade extension that combines both known as Hopes and Dreams will Save the World, which is the version of the two songs I end up listening to, usually :D
“Fallen Down” in-world means “passed away” it’s a peaceful death of old age. Sad but also, what else could you ask for? Nobody can live forever and the person in question lived a long and full life
'Song That Might Play When You Fight Sans' is not actually in the game, but it is on the soundtrack. It's essentially a reprise of 'sans.' with extra instruments :)
I think the fact that it took you 5 episodes to get to ASGORE, despite how good it is, is almost a good representation of him and how a lot of the fandom sees him. Definitely play the game, though! Even if it isn't for a video, play it on your own.
I have a pretty unusual request for you, I want you to react to the Pizza Tower OST. Now I know what you're thinking, "Did you just say that there's a game called PIZZA TOWER and it has an official soundtrack?" Yes, the game is amazing, and the OST slaps so unnecessarily hard.
I hope u all enjoyed this video, I hope u have a lovely day ❤
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I don't think anyone would have an aversion to you doing an Undertale letsplay. In fact, I'm pretty sure it'd end up being one of your most successful series. Essentially I'm saying I really wanna see a Mathew McKenna Undertale letsplay!
I feel like you probably shouldn’t have spoiled yourself by looking up context. Not only are you missing the full story, but it also means if you play the game to get the context you didn’t know, you’ve already spoiled yourself a great deal.
@@littleredruri I’m pretty sure he started it and then dropped it. He has a gameplay channel
The Asgore thing is the embodiment of "doing awful things for a good cause" and the debate around jtt
true
Also, “doing awful things you don’t want to do”.
Yes he killed 6 human children, but he did it to free all of monster kind
Insert Toriel and her very valid argument that he only had to kill 1 child to complete his goal of breaking the barrier, but he was too much of a coward here.
(he would have needed to kill a few more humans, but not children I mean he could have hit up a senior home??)
* Knowing that Mathew will now forever view Asgore as a brutal child murderer...
It fills you with deter.... No!
With a sense of sadness.
*And depression*
Unless he plays the game
i 100% recommend listening to bergentrückung and asgore as one song! bergentrückung is pretty short but it adds such a cool vibe to asgore, bergentrückung comes directly before asgore in game so they’re meant to go together
Then again i ask the question why didn’t toby just combine them at the first place?
@@IronEren because it’s meant to be like like and intro paragraph to a story, they are meant to be together part of the same story but the introduction brings you to the actual story
@@IronEren Honestly I kinda feel like Toby specifically made it so there were 101 songs listed in the soundtrack, with like 4 different versions of the "Uwa!" theme, Dogbass being included but some other short jingles not, Long elevator, etc.
It also seems pretty in-character for him to be trolling a bit with the OST
@@IronEren because there's a pause in between where he talks and breaks the button. You control the dialogue so if they were together it would be off timing.
@@IMakePeopleSaltyApparently yeah but also full songs from the ost have been segmented for the game exclusively, your best nightmare, finale, the credits, undertale, his theme... so it's not like it would be impossible to put them together for the ost
"Save the World" is a continuation of the theme "Hopes and Dreams" , which I think you already covered
When played in order, you get "Hopes and Dreams Save the World" which is kinda fitting for the moment they play
i didnt even realize that i love that sm
it's kind of ruined by burn in despair
Hopes and Dreams Burn in Despair Save the World doesn't have as much of a ring to it
@@nileprimewastaken Maybe if you write it like that. But if you write it with who would be saying it, it would read like.
Frisk: "Hopes and Dreams..."
Asriel: "Burn In Despair!"
Frisk: "Save the World."
@@nicholasholladay-elser7307 but why would those characters specifically be saying that
why wouldn't asriel be saying hopes and dreams because his hope is to "play" with chara again
@@nileprimewastaken Well at that point Frisk is still hanging on and also didn't you say things like that when playing as the villain when you where younger? He's still trying to counter them but Frisk's determination is just too strong.
If you wanna hear a song that uses Sans' theme but more extreme, you should listen to "Song That Might Play When You Fight Sans"! Yes that's literally the title
(Changed the typo now agh)
I was gonna correct your typo, but your pfp is too good to disrespect it with the lack of a mention, so...
San’s
My favorite character, san
And the more chill version of San's theme is "It's raining somewhere else"
Isn’t it Sans’s? Because doesn’t an apostrophe after an s mean plural and possessive? (Sorry for making you fix it again lol)
Just need to say, anything you learn about the characters is indeed a "you need to be there to understand" moment
Nothing beats the reaction Matthew gave to megalovania. I rewatch that video just for his reaction lol! Glad to see Undertale soundtrack reactions back. The entire OST is banger after banger.
Agree
Where is it?
Asgore is a good person at heart. I’ll give you an idea of the situation he was in. The humans attacked the monster for no good reason and killed thousands while not losing one. They then sealed the monsters underground potentially forever, with only way to break it to get 7 human souls. And spoilers the humans then killed Asgore son, this causes I’m to declare that any human that falls into the underground will be killed. And Asgore doesn’t enjoy any of this, he’s a good man stuck in the worst situation.
I remember someone once saying that Asgore sounded like "a good person forced to do a horrible things", and I can't describe it better than that. There's tragedy in the melody, because for all intents and purposes, this is a fight that shouldn't have to happen, it's great.
So many bangers in this ep, SAVE The World fills me with so much emotion due to the context in the game, it's powerful, it's great. Snowy is just Toby showing off in the piano and I LOVE it, it's beautiful, with this underlying loneliness, it represents its area so well. And man Fallen Down Reprise, that song gets me, it really does. Love, nostalgia, sadness, comfort, it's everything to me.
Thanks for the reaction, always nice to see someone experience these for the first time.
I LOVE FALLEN DOWN SO MUCH! IT MAKES ME FEEL NOSTALGIC, HAPPY AND SAD IDK HOW TO EXPLAIN IT I JUST LOVE IT
Alright Alright... you don't have to scream...
BUT YOU'RE RIGHT!!
Wholeheartedly agree, It's my favourite song by far
Happy because it were
Sad because it ended
Asgore is a very sad character and it definitely shows in his song
I love how he's confused why every soundtracks sound similar to eachother, and knowing full well they are all mostly connected is making it a lot better to watch.
Most people that played the game knows this, but the UWA! Songs are all for the settings menu, and each one is themed around 1 season of the year, because the menu changes based on the season, so the So Temperate one probably is Spring if I'm not wrong, but there's also for Summer, Winter and Fall
Temperate is for both Spring and Fall, Heats is for Summer, and Holiday is for Winter.
What a neat easter egg, I never noticed that
"I want sans. as a pop punk song"
Song That Might Play When You Fight Sans in the corner 👀
If you ever make another part to this, you 100% have to react to “Metal Crusher”. It’s one of my favorite songs, and I’m honestly surprised you haven’t listened to it yet.
Metal Crusher is one of my favourite UT songs and I’m also surprised he hasn’t listened to it yet.
Asgore did horrible things trying to reach a good goal. He wanted so badly to free everyone from the underground, the children's souls were his only hope.
PLEASE do not fight in the replies
Not really. He was purposefully trapping their people underground. Asgore only needed 1 soul to leave the underground and get a few more to break the barrier, but he refused and just sat underground hoping no more humans would fall into the underground. Toriel tells him this exact thing.
@FNAF Foxy He wanted 7 because he wanted more power. Which sounds bad on paper, but he most likely wanted that Godly power to take revenge on the humans / defend his own people for when the humans inevitably attack first and ask questions later like they did w/ Asriel. Excessive? Yes. Understandable? Also yes.
@@fnaffoxy1987 Asgore is an extremely social person who is also a terrible leader. He has no idea what to do in such a stressful situation that he was basically forced into, but because of his social skills, he conviced his people that he's got everything under control, He was genuinely scared of freeing monsters. Gerson straight up tells us that a long time ago they promised each other that they would abandon the goal of freeing the underground and that he's disappointed by Asgore for breaking that promise. The point is, Asgore has a lot of trauma and is just way too incompetent to be the king of all monsters.
@@fnaffoxy1987 that doesn't really change the morality for asgore's actions though. it was still for a good goal -- and personally i think he was moreso motivated by the need to keep his people from losing hope than the need to break the barrier. at first it was vengeance, sure, but afterwards he really couldn't turn back since it'd lead the monsters to despair.
@@onettaviator5396 Seven souls would let him break the barrier for others. There would be no point in only using one unless he wanted to escape alone.
A lot of the later Undertale songs are reprises of earlier songs with a twist. Some of them even combine a few earlier songs together too. It evokes a sense of nostalgia for the journey that you have been on and I love it.
The whole thing with Asgore "brutally murdering 6 children" is just a highly elaborate trolley problem.
If you look at the scenario from the monster's perspective, Asgore looks like a hero for being willing to make the tough choices for the entire kingdom.
If you want to hear sans but more intense, give "song that might play when you fight sans" a listen
Yes that is actually the title
I think that Mathew not fully understanding the music by itself is a great thing and basically the whole point. The game and the music are two halves of a whole, the music makes a lot of sense with the context of what’s happening in the game, what happened before that song played, and enhances what the player’s feeling at that point of the game.
So the dark/sad undertones for the Fallen Down reprise are there because it happens right after your battle with Asgore, which you now have context for lol
Small correction, in the situation where you hear Fallen Down Reprise, you actually don't fight Asgore. This takes place right as you go to fight him
@@technicallytyra2639its the true pacifist route where Toriel saves you right?
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Timestamp:
0:23 Uwaa! So temperate🌈
1:57 SAVE the world♥️
4:55 sans💀
6:18 ASGORE🔥
9:40 snowy❄
12:05 fallen down (reprise)♥️
sans💀
Sans💀
sans💀
sans💀
sans💀
You need to watch the Undertale orchestra performance sometime, it's amazing and truly adds to the songs when it's played live.
Also yes Asgore is a "do bad things for a good reason" type of person, he didn't like killing the children but thought it was the only way to save his people
In all fairness, as Toriel pointed out, he only needed to kill one child. After that, he could absorb their soul, cross the barrier, and get another 6 of them from adult humans on the surface.
It’s Fallen Down.
When you had first Fallen.
Where you had first Fell.
You always Fall after each Reset.
But with that, you always try to remember your first spark of Determination.
All feelings you felt, when you first fell.
When you first met them All.
5:50
There sort of is. It's called "Song That Might Might Play When You Fight Sans". It's an actual song on the soundtrack.
I really want Matt to listen to the Musical once he's done with UT, dunno how likely that is since it's fanmade tho 😅
He has done reactions to fanmade videos actually (exhibit A: FNaF musical reaction) so it's probably likely
@@lilac670 Oh that's true, I wonder then
I totally agree, I think he would love it, I know I do :D
@@gilagal777 I'm partial to it myself :3c
wait a damn minute... MUSICAL?????
0:23 - Uwa!! So Temperate♫
1:57 - SAVE The World
4:55 - sans.
6:18 - ASGORE
9:41 - Snowy
12:06 - Fallen Down (Reprise)
Many thanks
"I feel like I've heard this song before" well no, but also kinda yes. Toby Fox is a legend when it comes to leimotifs. If you want you should react to videos explaining the way songs in Undertale are connected because there is so much story told simply through the songs
this has definitely been said already but i think asgores theme is perfect not because he is redeemable but because of how he feels so much guilt over his actions. his actions are not excusable but they do not make him evil because of how he feels about it. he never wanted to kill those children and he hated doing it but with the deaths he witnessed and the pressure from his kingdom he got it in his head that it was his inevitable mission. but once he gets to peepo he is so broken down that he cant even bring himself to believe in that mission. and i feel like toby perfectly captured that complexity in his character and the fight itself
Mat, if you do another one of these, you *need* to listen to CORE and Here We Are. They are among my favourite tracks in the game and feel like they don't get shown enough in these sorts of videos
If you want more Undertale to listen to, the "Man on the Internet" UA-cam channel has some Undertale Genocide videos where lyrics were added to some of the songs.
Way to puch into listening to the genocide songs only when there's the entire musical that could be listened to.
I know, it might just be your writing that could accidentally give that feeling, so watch out for how you phrase things.
If it's intentional though, then meet me in the pit.
There's also a whole musical around the "Pacifist" path. The Genocide/No Mercy package was more of side project for us. XD
The Musical is better and it's pacifist.
@@phictionofgrandeur2387 don't get me wrong, the musical is great. but the genocide package is better
@@tromedlovdrolmai To each their own.
Once you're done with the soundtrack you should ABSOLUTELY listen to the 5th anniversary concert. A professional orchestra plays the whole soundtrack track and its amazing!
If you enjoy game soundtracks where you have no idea what's happening next or you don't know what you're supposed to feel, I would HIGHLY reccommend the Splatoon story/campaign mode soundtracks! All three games feature such a fantastic variety of genres and soundscapes, the music is so weird and I absoltely love it!
I love your Undertale OST videos just because of the sheer amount of nostalgia that hits me every time
the Fallen Down reprise is still one of my favourite pieces because of the way I felt when I got to that part of the game. It feels like you've earned that happiness.
The high pitched part of save the world in the background is part of the song Your best friend, the theme of the character you fight in this boss fight
Mathew fr gotta react to Splatoon OSTs frfr
vouch ☝☝☝
Also that "punk guitar" track, SAVE the world has other 2 "sister" songs, Hopes and Dreams (the OG that you already heard), and Last Goodbye, which embodies both of the 2. These ones have the Shreddage Guitar, which is the rythm one you hear on the background and is shared with Megalovania, and the "UGK" (ultimate guitar kit) guitar, which is the lead playing alongside a Square synth
Woo! Love the undertale reactions. Also love the way you said “Uwa!” Lol
Yes more undertale!!!! Do more deltarune
Because that's the point of the Undertale OST, it's meant to make you FEEL things. Good things, bad things, doesn't matter as long as you feel SOMETHING.
SAVE the world is not a continuation of anything BUT it is an alternate version of Hopes and Dreams that plays during the final boss fight of the True Pacifist route. The name is also a reference to the ability to SAVE the game
6:12 Asgore is the king of monsters, Toriel's ex husband and father of Asriel. Honestly, ASGORE sounds way better if you listen to it combined with Bergentrückung (Intro).
8:32 No it's not fine to murder 6 children, it's not fine to murder any humans. But I blame Toriel for him acting like that. If she hadn't left, if she had stuck by his side then maybe, just maybe, he wouldn't have killed those humans. also I wouldn't say Asgore brutally murdered the 6 humans. They had a similar story to Frisk. They fell down, found out how to escape, fought Asgore but ended up loosing against him.
That last thing is one of the things I love in the Growth Spurt Comics. There is like a small chapter that deals with this. For context, this comic deals with a Post Genocie, current pacifist run of the game. Its after the end of the game, and they somehow brought asriel back. He has some argument with Toriel about how she treats Asgore, and he yells that he should have the same treatment, since he killed people when he was back in his "old self" (trying to avoid spoilers here in case Matt didnt finish the game yet).
So she goes to talk with asgore, and in that talk, we get to see Asgore still deals with the Guilt of murdering those children, and Toriel acknowledges that, if she had stayed instead of running, than she could had prevented the child killing spree.
Normally the comic isnt that serious, its more of a comedy one, but sometimes they deal with this darker and more serious side of the game
@@Springy05 Interesting, I don't see a lot of people talking about that, they just instantly assign all blame to Asgore because he was the one that did the killing.
You should react to the musical both pacifist and genocide versions
@@Ashurman666 the comic also goes through some other stuff. Usually its just fun and all, but the current "arc" the comic is going through is basically Asriel feeling guilty because of the stuff he did + Alphys being scared of him. Its pretty good, definitely recommend it
Your blaming Toriel for this...?
She obviously was strongly and I mean STRONGLY against the whole idea to murder humans who fell down and made that pretty darn clear but Asgore Chose to inact the plan and chose to continue. For reasonable reasons and for a noble goal but you can not just blame Toriel for not sticking with the man who literally said "I will murder 7 Innocent People who all could be literal children to free my people"
Its a complicated moral question in which I would support Asgores choice yet both have their faults as well as shortcommings but saying Toriel was not justified in leaving or that she was to blame at all for him doing what he did is just blaming her for Asgores own choices.
Can you react to more Homestuck songs? My recommendations are: "Pumpkin party in sea Hitler's water apocalypse", "Eternity served cold", and "You killed my Father (Prepare to die)".
The fact that one of the Uwa!! So ____ songs was included made me laugh very audibly, you definitely don’t expect a joystick config menu theme when it has a title like that
Eventually we will get him to listen to the entire ost
Fallen Down Reprise is my favorite track!!! Its so heartwarming
So Toby Fox is really into lietmotifs in his music. Really into it. Like, most of his songs have pieces of other songs in it. Hilariously, one of his songs from deltarune, Big Shot, is made from other songs as kind of a joke. It's actually pretty friggin impressive.
PS, if you haven't already you should listen to the track Undertale. It's different but amazing.
OST starts with "Once Upon a Time" and ends with "Good Night" which means undertale was just a bedtime story. And the first thing you do in Deltarune? You wake up.
_what_
bro stole this comment from a different video
I don't think you've done battle against a true hero have you?
I suggest doing an episode for the genocide run songs,they're really beautiful with that hint of sorrow and suffering
Edit:you did do baath but I definitely suggest doing more of the genocide music :)
definitely need more OST reactions from you!
Song That Might Play When You Fight Sans is an intense remix of "sans." on the soundtrack even though it doesn't ever show up in game
These kinds of videos make me genuinely happy and I get too excited when you post them
5:50 might’ve already reacted to it but the cut song “Song That Might Play When You Fight Sans” might somewhat satisfy this desire
Because "An emotional journey " is what undertale is at its core.
There's the "song that might play when you fight sans" that's like the "sans" theme but different
13:11 funny you say this
This version of the song is *technically* the first.
It was composed for a collaborative Earthbound/Mother 2 fan album back in 2012. That’s where like 2 songs in Deltarune came from as well(at least their leitmotifs)
The song “Snowy” has that feel of making you comforted a little, but also make you take a turn just feel off
Attempt 22 of asking Mathew to listen to Splatoon OSTs especially Splatoon 3 OSTs
I was just watching one of your Undertale videos when this popped up
Fallen down is one of my favorite not vocal songs the vibe i get from it is happy depressing and a feeling of uplifting but also the truth it gives you the unknown something you want to find out but also like you in a void of nothing just floating in infinite space of nothing the feeling of the song is so spaced out there is more than just a specific feeling your supposed to get out of it thats why i like so much i listen to it to dumb out all my messy thoughts into the calm void
Also its eases you but also makes you paranoid for the unknown that why i love the song soo much its passion into the void into something we can never escape i just wanna lay down listening to is whilee i drift off the space it gives me happiness sad reality and paranoia for what is next what move should i make or do i just let my choices drift and just let it happen i don't really know but all i know is now the past and the happiness the song gives me
A Little fact ig- fallen down is one of the first songs in the game ( track no. 004) and the reprised version is closet to the end being no. 85. So it kinda comes back
5:50 "is there a reprise with electric guitars and drums?" Yes, yes there is.
i love this ost sm!! every time i hear a song from undertale it send me like VIVIDLY back to the moment it plays ingame yknow?
One OST i recomend you listen to is the Mad Rat Dead OST. Some of my personal favorites are "Mad Rat, Alive?", "Plash Plot Gurgle", "Mad Heart", "Passion in Blue", "Kind of Hope", "Heartless Being" and "Mad Rat, Die"
That punk guitar sans ur lookin for is the unused "song that Might play when you fight sans"
Asgore is such a sad character. He did terrible things, cause he felt forced to do them, but the worst thing? Most monsters supported it, kings meant to do the right thing, after all. Sadly, Asgore isn't the best king material - he's liked by his people and is very powerful, but lacks mental strength to push through tough times. Maybe if Toriel didn't leave she could've change all that history, I kinda hate that she blames everything on Asgore... Anyways I love Dreemurr family and think about them too much.
I JUST GOT DONE REWATCHING THIS! And wishing there were more!!!!!!! You in my house or something?
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@@MathewMcKenna BEGONE THOT
Yes, the “song that might play when you fight sans” is basically what you described. It’s a super intense version of the song “sans.”
Personally I think next step to go to when reacting to Undertale music (other than another Deltarune reaction hint hint) is the Undertale live orchestra that was done officially for the 5th anniversary. The entire games soundtrack was conducted infront of a live audience, it’s perfect for a reaction.
"I say that like I know him so intimately" -Mathew McKenna 2023
Ngl this feels like a quote for every fandom.
Babe wake up, a new Matthew McKenna video is up !!!!
SAVE in save the world being capitalized is like a fourth wall break
The word you're looking for to describe "Fallen Down" is _wistful_
Another amazing vid Mathew, these really make my day and are great to have on in the background while I do chores, so thank you!
I recommend setting the videos to loop so you get to experience the song as intended. A lot of the songs give a different context to the opening when it loops back around.
You have heard "Snowy" as the main map melody of Snowdon forest, where you meet sans and Papyrus. Also the Snowdin town does use the same leitmotif.
Fun fact: the "uwa!" songs are all for the control configuration menu, and the music changes depending on the season! In winter its "uwa!so holiday!", in summer its "uwa!so HEATS?!!" and in the fall and spring its so temperate, which you heard. I think its a nice detail.
Snowy is the theme of the area before the village, that's where you heard it from.
What I want to see is him react to Splatoon music, I just KNOW he would be super confused by it but be intrigued just as much.
One possible reason Fallen Down might be making you feel a little uneasy is that it is composed in 24 TET instead of 12 TET. Toby Fox really likes microtonality.
god this just makes me want to see more reactions to homestuck songs. personally, i would love to see your reaction to MeGaLoVaNiA, atomic bonsai, Moonsweater, and maybe even PPISHWA.
It’s funny he said fallen down was like an ending song but it plays near the beginning-
There is an unused soundtrack in the OST called "star" its kinda simple but I love it! and if you dont know the story/never have played Undertale- id recommend people to watch a playlist/i think they have a fully story like video to, by "Man On The Internet" that did both routes and made "Undertale the musical"! its really good- and how found out about the track Star
To be fair, we didn't do "both routes", so much as did Undertale: The Musical in the Pacifist route, and then a No Mercy package because those songs are absolute BANGERS and it would be a disservice not to cover them-- plus some bonus adaptations mixed in. c:
Star's a good one! It probably had nothing to do with the character we associated it with, but we had fun with that one. And thank you for the plug! I'm curious to see what he thinks of it if he *does* ever get around to watching some.
@@MLoreley I did not expect to get a reply from you! (I love your voice for Toriel!) its been awhile sense iv lstened to the musical so I apologise if I described it wrong! just the reactions to the songs had me thinking of it again! :3c
@@MonkieKatt Aw man, thank you! ;A; And pfft, don't worry about 'describing it wrong', I just wanted to clarify just in case. I'm glad that something like this reminds you of it. And man, I'd love to hear his thoughts if he ever DID choose to react to the musical, though I hope he finishes the game first (given some spoilers in there). c: Thanks again for recommending it!
0:31 "I expected something a little more playful I guess, this is kind of... Intense isn't the word? It feels soft and emotional." 1:12 "So low key.."
Me: Ah, perhaps you mean 'mild'? 😉 (a synonym for temperate)
so, the original Fallen Down plays right at the start of the game. it's far shorter and focuses way more on that strange dissonance of being halfway between F# and G; you're in a completely new world, alien in nature, not certain quite what to do. the music throws you off and puts you slightly on edge because it just sounds wrong.
the reprise comes right near the end of the game, and it serves to remind you of that confusion and uncertainty you felt at the start, but the second half of the song brings back the main UNDERTALE motif: you've grown as a player and as a character in this world. you're familiar with it, and it's not so scary anymore; you're almost nostalgic for the times where you were living in quite so much fear.
toby fox does this all the time in his music, it's great. Also, the """boss""" version of 'sans.' you're looking for is 'Song That Might Play When You Fight Sans'. if you listen carefully, you'll hear that it uses the exact same melody! (it also never plays in the game)
You should really react to some Undertale fan OST's. The fans really know how to keep the soul of this game's music in their pieces.
Great idea :0 I especially recommend NyxTheShield, who does the soundtracks for both Glitchtale and Underverse, and SharaX!
OH, and Disbelief Papyrus :D
That’s the spring version of the controll test music, it changes depending on the season
I’m surprised you didn’t notice the connection. Between asgorr and heartache
I’ll recommend this because I *know* you’ll never get to it otherwise. “Mad Mew Mew” is one of my favourite songs in the game (and one of my favourite characters), but she’s exclusive to the Nintendo Switch port of the game, so her theme isn’t on the same soundtrack album. I do recommend you get around to it though.
The reprise is played during the pacifist ending of the game when there is a big togethering of all of the characters before the final battle
1:58 this song is SAVE the WORLD, a continuation to HOPES and DREAMS. there's a fanmade extension that combines both known as Hopes and Dreams will Save the World, which is the version of the two songs I end up listening to, usually :D
13:49 Actually Bring it in Guys, and Last Goodbye do that.
And in the soundtrack, Good Night does.
"I would like to hear some longer notes"
*notes become even shorter and more stokatto"
5:49
Yes. It's called Song That Might Play When You Fight Sans.
somehow whenever i switch fandoms you always upload a video based on the fandom i switched to LMAO how does this always happen
“Fallen Down” in-world means “passed away” it’s a peaceful death of old age. Sad but also, what else could you ask for? Nobody can live forever and the person in question lived a long and full life
'Song That Might Play When You Fight Sans' is not actually in the game, but it is on the soundtrack. It's essentially a reprise of 'sans.' with extra instruments :)
I think the fact that it took you 5 episodes to get to ASGORE, despite how good it is, is almost a good representation of him and how a lot of the fandom sees him. Definitely play the game, though! Even if it isn't for a video, play it on your own.
I have a pretty unusual request for you, I want you to react to the Pizza Tower OST.
Now I know what you're thinking, "Did you just say that there's a game called PIZZA TOWER and it has an official soundtrack?"
Yes, the game is amazing, and the OST slaps so unnecessarily hard.
You've got to react to 'undertale the musical', its incredible, and I know you would love it