Prestidigitation is the cantrip that lets you just 'be' a wizard and do day-to-day wizardy things. Sitting in a tavern with your party after a long day of adventuring? Add a tiny umbrella to your drink to add a bit of class. The tavern bully tries to spill someone's drink? Clean up the spill for the victim, and then flavour the bully's drink to something nasty, or add an unpleasant and embarrassing looking stain on his clothes. This is the cantrip that let's you do little magical things that spice up your day and let's you really roleplay being a master of the mystic arts. If you can only throw fireballs a few times a day then you're effectively just a walking wand - this lets you BE magical in the little moments too.
I even got use out of the creating object ability, a shop owner told us he lost a bunch of magic items and we tracked down one of them in the form of a distinct dagger a guy in a bar had, he was unconscious so I took the dagger out and created a duplicate took the duplicate to the shop keeper asked if this was the missing dagger and without having to rob a drunk guy found out it was the same dagger, after that we took the real one out of his pocket and I put my fake back so hed think he still had it. and for fun I threatened him with the dagger knowing it couldn't slit his throat but he was drunk and couldn't tell so he confessed to stealing the items
Prestidigitation is the best spell in the game by far! Mostly for thematic/rp reasons. Dunno where he came up with the idea that the flavour and heat/cool doesn't last though. Does cleaning/dirtying not last either?
@@jmsr77 No, the spell says that "any alterations to objects OTHER than those listed above end when you stop Sustaining the spell." So, heating or cleaning an object would be persistent. Not sure what other effects you could achieve that wouldn't be covered by this, but at least I guess it prevents you from, say, drawing a mark on someone and having it last. That would interfere with Sigil's niche.
Prestidigitation feels like such a basic intro to magic, baby's first spell kind of cantrip that every spellcaster should get it as a bonus cantrip automatically. Or in this case, automagically.
Ya, I take it on every character that can because it feels out of character not to. Just the cleaning part alone is such a useful day-to-day thing that a person is going to want it. Like if I could pick a cantrip to learn in real life, it would be prestidigitation. But only barely. The P2 version of the spell is by far the worst iteration of it I've seen.
@vez nan The range limit only applies to how far the object can be away when you flavour it, not how far away it retains the flavour. That's permanent. Well, until the object loses the flavour through other means, anyway.
My table changed Prestidigitation a bit so that the items created are useable, but are of 'Shoddy' quality, meaning a -2 circumstance penalty. Spell level 7, it loses the Shoddy quality. Nice for handing a lock pick off to the Rogue, or producing a handkerchief out of thin air.
Honestly I was super surprised that Prestidigitation wasn't well-liked, considering how versatile and flavorful (ha) it is. Especially when compared to Sigil, which does only one thing that, while also fun for RP, is even less open to creativity than Presto is. For me, it's the catch-all utility spell, probably one of the first spells any mage truly masters, and is basically "Quality of Life" the Cantrip. And even if the items you create look fake and don't provide mechanical benefit, it's extremely open as to what you can actually depict and create! Need an immediate prop for your performance as a street-magician? Sure, it might not look fantastic, but it definitely serves. Wanna cheer up a kid with a little origami animal? Yeh it won't last, but just the act itself could put a smile on their face, and even be used as a game where they call out something for you to make and you do so. Speaking of kids, reflavoring definitely seems like an easy way to get them to eat their veggies if it suddenly tastes like their favorite candy ;P Definitely there's a lot of roleplay opportunity for it, so again I was just surprised it was kind of glossed over. But hey, different strokes and all ;P Still, if I could have any one cantrip IRL, 13 times outta 10 I'm going for Presto, because it could just make my life and others peoples lives that little bit better ^_^
and specially: if the food is cold, I reheat it with the spell and immedially eat it. I mean sure, it's cold inside, but my body will probally reheat it. or if something taste not so good, give it a good taste, eat it and if it's in your stomach, you can stop it and it's for sure nice to prank people or similar, maybe making even a wrong way like: you make a fake trap, people try to dodge it, but instead run into the real trap
Also that “(beyond what is noted above)” kinda indicates that all changes Except those from “Make” are actually permanent(ish like food still comes to room temp eventually etc)
@@julzbehr6696 Permanent in the same way Heal is, effectively. The change doesn't become undone, but that doesn't stop you from getting your clothes dirty _again._
We have a couple of military veterans in our group who talk about how great prestidigitation would be in the field. Marching through a desert? A nice cold pack and clean socks are great. Living off of iron rations? You can at least make them taste like they aren't hardtack and jerky. I just started an Agents of Edgewatch game. As city watchmen, Tanglefoot came in handy in the first episode. Slowing down a fleeing mugger so that your allies can catch up is great. Since the PC's are trying to capture, not kill, it's very useful.
Honestly, I love Telekinetic Projectile for the flavor. I once had an Orc Witch who *SPAMMED* this cantrip by throwing anything I could imagine at an opponent. Rocks? Basic. A twig? Bonk'em. A spider web? Slap the spider with their own web. A stone gargoyle's pieces are falling apart? Throw them back where they belong. Oh, a second wave of Kobolds coming after we defeated the first one? *Guess they're gonna get hit by their friend's heads.* It got to the point where I was just looking everywhere for the coolest stuff around to throw at people. Even when I couldn't find anything funny, I would describe in excruciating detail the spins and maneuvers I did with the staff before shooting. I fondly remember one occasion where the fight was nearly over and I was running out of ideas, so I just put my staff against an enemy's forehead and fired the staff as my projectile at point-blank. It was super stylish.
I have a 'flavourful' idea for a wizard based on the Prestidigitation cantrip. Take the chef background and go on a tour to taste all the foods that can be, so you can learn the exact nuances to your food flavouring and then compile it into a cantrip cookbook/tour guide. Also imagine a cocktail that as you're drinking it, it changes taste
As someone who lives in a muddy place and have been in the military, not having to deal with mud and instead just glitter-fart it away is the highest fantasy, most fulfilling experienced, I've come across playing TTRPGs so far. Been playing for over 20y
My dad IN HIS FIRST GAME EVER asked if he could use telekinetic projectile to throw a curtain, from the building with a broken window, over a goblin to blind it or sort of net it. It was epic!
Tanglefoot can give speedy characters ( like Monk, Magus, Swashbuckler ) a lot of edge. In the case of Magus for example you can attack with spellstrike and then retreat so a melee character is forced to attack someone else or be forced to use more actions. -10feet is two squares, sometimes is the difference you need.
The only use for Prestidigitation I've found was to create cover to hide behind, usually a box or curtain to block line of sight. My table ended up calling it my security blanket whenever I pulled that trick.
Hey, just curious - is that possible? The spell does say the thing needs to be of negligible bulk and no real dimensions. Was it more of a (yeah, I’ll allow it) moment or not?
Telekinetic projectile: get a 1 bulk weapon or the prison keys from 30f away instantly delivered to the fighter who is 30 feet in the opposite direction.... Vs Mage hand: move something in 30f distance by 20f... Well at least if it were to be fragile you could move it without shattering it😅
I love Prestidigitation, but mostly just from fond memories of playing the stylish Magus butler of a noble fellow PC in a short-lived PF1e game. It was fun to flavor water, heat food, clean things, spontaneously generate plates, cups, utensils, etc., and once I even managed to tag a fleeing enemy with a big pink spot so it would be easy to see them in the crowd. Doesn’t make it a good spell, just good for that character. 😆
The best use of Prestidigitation I've ever seen was the Wizard using it to change the flavor of a rather foul Orc ale, letting him roll with advantage and win a drinking contest, and thus win the information the party wanted from the Orcs. But I agree. The majority of the time, Prestidigitation is good for minor roleplaying and flavor, and that's about it and it sees very little use at my table.
You forgot to mention the best part of telekinetic projectile: it can do blunt, slashing, OR piercibg damage. 3 damage types. So those stone golems resistant to piercing and elemental magic? Blunt damage. Those trees that don't like the slashing ax of your barbarian? Do slashing too. Etc.
@@phildiop8248 It's very easy to claim that there's SOMETHING in the room that works. Assuming that your GM is anal enough to even ask. If not, then just carry some knifes and sling bullets. Problem solved.
The shield spell has only a verbal component, so 2H weapons don’t interfere with it, AND it can trigger some reactions tied to Shield Block, like the Disarming Block from the Bastion Archetype. Also, Telekinetic Projectile could be used like the example you gave to Mage Hand, someone dropped a weapon and you use TP to toss the weapon away haha
Downside is that Telekinetic Projectile has to target a creature, but if you do that you can indeed Shoot the sword that just fell down (at a different enemy or ally)
My first pathfinder character used a three action telekinetic projectile once. An enemy had a grappled ally and was using them as a living shield. I asked the GM if I could throw a rock behind the enemy and use telekinetic projectile to hit him in the back and bypass my ally. He allowed it! One action to throw the rock, two actions to cast. I enjoy the versatile flavor that comes from using any object in range as your bullet.
You know, been looking for a good series of maps. Thanks for pointing out Moonlight Maps. You know, I never got Prestidigitation in any system. Mage hand is arguably more useful and more fun.
Look Prestidigitation is an OP spell, it is the only way to get spicy zombies. Detect Magic doesn't have a duration, it is a single pulse, so to be able to identify the aura of 10 objects you would have to cast the spell 10 times, the ignore known magic items line is so you don't get drowned in the white noise of the magic auras of your parties equipment.
presdigitation... can be good but I think it's depends a lot on GM discretion, you can change you hair color with, clothes, and make a quick disguise (if the GM allow it of course).... also if it raining you can make an umbrella... as Sigil they are more RP cantrips than mechanicals...
Re: Mage Hand... If the weapon is unattended (dropped, etc) then it's more fun to launch that puppy back at the enemy or one of their cohorts using Telekinetic Projectile. ;-)
@@TarEcthelion oh wow! I wasn't aware telekenetic projectile worked on things up to one bulk. I was thinking only negligible and light objects from a thematic standpoint.
7:00 I like having that spell... for my Eldritch Trickster Rogue who has a Demonic Sorcerer Bloodline and I was really pondering what kinda spells I want... for fluff and stuff. So she started out with the most useful spells... Sigil and Prestidigitation (I am no native speaker... I HATE this word!). So I know how she keeps her clothes clean, living on the streets most of the time ^^
Correction about prestidigitation; it's effects are only a duration of sustain for the effects NOT listed above. So clean, soil, change flavor, warm, cool, etc... will not stop when you stop sustaining. So your water will still taste like Pepsi.
I don't think you can. At least not at once. But every time you sustain you can affect one more pound. Which makes me wonder what's the point of how it's written.
I'm not sure yet what the rules are for Pathfinder, but for D&D 5e, sometimes I wish that the DM would just allow anyone who can learn Prestidigitation to be able to take some downtime to learn it and have it not count against your cap on cantrips. If it's a spell solely used for roleplay and is functionally completely useless, I think it should be something that all casters who want it to have.
in my first training-like round, where we get teached into the stuff, we had a situation, where 3 cobolds where in a room, we first made a dialog, helped them to open a door, then as they try to run away, we stopped them. the position was like that: ME, friend goblin cobold, cobold cobold friend human my goblin mate whispered to me, that we should maybe help them further and like trust them, with their leader problem. (I forgot to use the action "sense motion" so we didn't know really, if they say the truth or not) soo to tell our mate behind the cobolds the plan, i used the message cantrip and probally helped to prefent a fight as later one, they helped with the evil cobolds.
I hope next episode he decided to rate them again but with something like 1 to 18 trees so just every episode has it’s own unique scale or lack there of
on Prestidigitation the only useless one might be Lift, and thats because unlike other systems it doesn't talk about moving the object just Lifting it and not even to a respectable height to easily grab it. Cook: getting too hot? Cool your clothes, getting to cold? Warm your clothes. Cooling: food, clothes (icy cold underwear prank?), ice! (prevents it from melting!), etc Warming: food, gloves/boots, anoying guests fork as they go to eat ice-cream, ice (makes it melt!), etc. Flavor: why not change how food/drink tastes to hide poison, make barely edible food taste better, prank enemies with bad tasting food, etc. Tidy: yeah lets you tinker with a lot of cleaning or make something dirty as hell. useful for RP mostly but can also clean blood if you silent kill an enemy without taking a lot of time and leaving residue. Make: omg there is a lot you can make, diorama of the building/cave, bust/ drawing of a person your looking for, etc. just limited by imagination.
14:30 And the best, the Sigil only fades naturally on creatures... at least how I read it since it states "If it is on a creature, it fades naturally". So if it is NOT on a creature, it does NOT fade ^^ Rubbing it away not counted of course but you would need to know it is there but how do you do that (without magic) if it is an invisible Sigil? You can tag almost every of your items that way ^^ And everybody who is familiar wit hthe spell knows that simply touching the object does not place a sigil on it sicne there is that verbal component.
Message RAW verbal components are spoken aloud. That does not mean that the verbal component must be the message itself so what you described is totally possible!
So a "homebrew" rule that my GM has about Prestidigitation is that it lasts as long as it can naturally last, like if you warm food it might cool in 5 to 10 minutes, if you change the color of something depending on the state of matter of the object if it's solid it last a very long time, where as gas will change in a couple of seconds, the lifting though only lasts as long as you sustain it. Which makes sense. I very sorry for the run-on sentence 😆. I've never been good at this language I've spoken for about 36 years... English.
You can also read the aura of everything in a room to figure out exactly what's magical. Detect magic only tells you the square. If you have a large bookshelf, Read Aura can *quickly* reduce the time to find a single magical book on it.
How do people like to approach using Telekinetic Projectile to launch alchemical bombs? As written, the bomb would not apply it's affects; "No specific traits or magic properties of the hurled item affect the attack or the damage". I'm not one for demanding realism or logic, but something does feel off about launching an explosive alchemical concoction with enough force to cause damage but somehow not detonate.
100% against it. That is just exploiting rules to gain more power. To me Telekinetic Projectile simply doesn't fire such big objects. It fires a small rock, a bunch of glass splinters or the like. But not a full size potion.
@@natanoj16 I wouldn't say it's exploiting rules as they clearly state that traits of the item do not affect the attack or damage. Regarding size, an alchemical bomb (a light item, 10 light items = 1 bulk) is very much within the limits of the spell which lets you launch an item "that has 1 Bulk or less". For me the biggest issue with allowing players to do this is the increased range.
Small correction. Light lasts until your next daily preparations or until you cast it on something else. You cant actually dismiss it otherwise. Just a funny quirk of the spell.
Yeah, specifically only spells that say they can be dismissed can be dismissed, otherwise they last until either a) if concentration is required you stop concentrating or b) or the run out naturally. In pf1e we always had it you can dismiss any spell you cast with a duration. The exception is spells that are permanent unless they say they can be dismissed cannot be dismissed. It allowed for more spell control.
Nonat, do you think Tanglefoot will be any better (I say better, I mean a lot more viable) with the Magus after it's released? Personally I think having this on hand may help a lot with chase scenes, as one roll with weapon item bonuses and weapon damage might actually make this a worthwhile choice
I realize this is way late but I'm currently playing a Gunslinger with Wizard Dedication (for True Strike of course) and in the settlement of our party's town I have set up a range where I use Prestigitation(Make) to make fragile targets for NPCs or party members to have fun testing firearms with. It's part of my Earn Income RP for the character. Not strictly useful but I thought it was clever so I didn't have to keep making practice targets via crafting.
I have a question regarding telekinetic projectile; the "range" is 30ft. "you hurl an object that is within range" so the object must be within 30 ft of you but the target, it doesnt say where the target has to be or how far the object is hurled. examples: 1. the target is 50ft away and the object is 25ft away. can i fling the object 25ft towards the target? does it stop once it hits the 30ft 'wall'? 2. the target is 30ft to my left, the object is 30 ft to my right. can i launch the object 60ft from one end of my range to the other? it reminds me of the catapult spell from 5e, which clarifies the object must be *within* 60ft, but is *launched* up to 90ft. Telekinetic projectile doesnt have this clarification so im a little lost on how to rule it.
Both the target and the object need to be within 30 feet of YOU. To compare look at Acid Splash, the text does not say the target needs to be in range. Telekinetic Projectile is the same range 30 feet, target: one creature. So the target needs to be within range. The text specifies the object must also be in range because there is no target entry for the object. So you can throw it 60 feet if the object and target happen to be in opposite directions and at the maximum range of the spell. To make the spell more useful you should have a slashing and piercing weapon of light bulk on hand (a dagger is an easy solution), if bludgeoning isn't working (or if you know the enemy is vulnerable to one of the other two), spend an action to draw your dagger and drop it for free and then use it to repeatedly slash your foe (for example). Generally there is always something you can use to bludgeon with this spell, although I guess you could drop a coin if you were somewhere weird with no features. It is theoretically possible to be unable to use this spell if you are (for example) in midair (no unattended objects, anything you drop would be out of range almost immediately). Otherwise its crazy useful. Combine with reach spell if you want more range (or just grab another cantrip for longer range).
I miss the 1e tanglefoot that made casters have to pass a concentration check to cast. It save our entire party from a lightening bolt wizard when he failed his concentration check.
Wait, PF's Prestidigitation doesn't let you light fires? Huh. 5e's version lets you throw sparks (only really strong enough to light a cigar, but still). I might actually have to buy a flint & steel... Or house rule it...
Regarding Heightening spells / downcasting: No idea what the official rule on this would be, but my vote would be to allow players to downcast anything to any lower heightened level that they have access to. So if you've got a cantrip with heightened levels at 3rd, 5th, and 7th, I'd give them the option to pick whether it's heightened, and which level it's heightened to.
Okay I am not a Pathfinder player but I am kind of a rules lawyer. Is Message Telepathic? "the target can hear your words as if they were standing next to you" It is not delivered into the brain but the ear. So that would suggest it is a sound, albeit a extremely narrow and focused.
I think you're wrong on the duration of prestidigitation, at the bottom it says "any actual change to an object *(beyond what is noted above)* only lasts as long as you sustain the spell" I take that to mean that the "intended" effects continue after the spell is no longer being sustained
Every arcane class should have prestidigitation for free. You could say it is why each wizards spells look different even though they the same spell. *toss log on the fire of sacrifice*
Hi, I'm going to argue for Read Aura and your interpretation of detect magic! The exact text of Detect Magic says "you can choose to ignore magic you're fully aware of, such as the magic items and ongoing spells of you and your allies." I would argue that simply knowing the 5-foot cube a source of magic is coming from doesn't make you fully aware of it. If you are rooting through some junk, and you detect transmutation among the junk, you still don't know what it is. It could be the old sword, or the rusty Spear, or the bag of gold. You are not fully aware of it. You can then cast Read Aura on the objects in that 5-foot square to find the exact item that is magical.
Was looking for this comment! Yes, you need Read Aura to actually find the magic items, then identify them, then only can you ignore them with Detect Magic AFAIK. It's a hassle and something worth changing for PF3e.
my lvl 5 sprite fighter will get the arcane archer archetype next lvl and im debating wether i should get telekinetic projectile or produce flame and I JUST CANT DECIDE AAAAAH
I allow my players to use sigil like it is used in the hobbit. They don't just stamp their own crest down, they can write whatever they want or draw. It just takes two seconds per square inch. This has lead to some creative moments that made the looser interpretation of the rules worth it.
It is a circumstance penalty. Bonuses and penalties of the same type do not stack. There are three types that can come and go. Circumstance, item, and status. If it was utyped, so saying -10 movement penalty, it would stack.
Can you downcast a cantrip even though they auto-heighten? Yes if you follow logic and player agency and fun because the rule is vague and not being able to creates both a logical issue where casters arbitrarily forget how to do things they could do previously and a connected rules issue where certain classes are locked out of major class features and letting you downcast fixes all these with absolutely no balance issues so The First Rule applies. No by RAW if you are an overzealous rules lawyer that believes the game was designed in a way that makes you lose certain abilities and have less and less precise control over your magical power when you level up rather than the phrasing just being an oversight. Also the only other similar ability (Signature Spells) let's you cast lower level versions if you pick a Heightened spell as your signature, so there's arguably precedent for heightening mechanics allowing downcasting.
@@BalooSJ I get why they put that in there, but if the object thrown has no bearing on the damage then why specify it does blunt, piercing or slashing based on object? I know they don't want alchemist hurling bombs but to ignore non-magical properties of an object seems illogical. For weaknesses, it's not the object doing damage, but being exposed to the object that would cause more damage.
@@aliasmask I see your point, but it's more of a game balance thing. Casters are supposed to be good at exploiting/bypassing elemental weakness/resistance (with only very specific spells dealing with materials), and adding precious materials would make the spell too good (in the devs' opionions). Also, dealing with precious materials is supposed to be expensive at higher levels - that's why you need standard-grade materials for +2 weapons, and high-grade materials for +3 weapons. Also, I'm not sure drawing ammo is technically a free action. It's part of the Reload action, which in turn can be part of the Strike action for a Reload 0 weapon. But if you're drawing a sling bullet on its own? That's definitely an action.
The only weakness to Tele-Projec is that it has to be a physical damage type, so if you're fighting something incorporeal, it's not gonna hurt that much. Also, I'm surprised you made this video now when Secrets of Magic is less a month away and full of damaging cantrips.
I see prestidigitation as a catch-all for role play magical effects. So the list of things it does should be an example rather than an exhaustive list of everything it does. Things like minor illusions that everyone automatically recognizes as illusions. Teleporting a coin from one hand to another. Reading a thought that someone adjacent to you is broadcasting to you. Other such fun and mechanically useless things.
For druids with their wild shape you are supposed to not be able to become weaker shapes anymore so I would guess the same counts for hightened cantrips (which I will immidiately ignore in my games ;) )
Yes. I would argue that the phrasing is CLEARLY a design oversight because who the heck would design a game where you lose abilities and control when you level up?
Likely answered already, but the wording on page 299 of the core rulebook states "CAN cast a spell at a higher spell level..." the "Can" implies this is optional so you "can" simply not cast it at heightened. HOWEVER. page 300 under cantrips says "Cantrips are automatically heightened..." I would argue that RAW, the specifics of the cantrip section overrules the Heightened section, but DM fiat, I'd just personally make it optional as per page 299. tl;dr: as written, they must be heightened. Personally, I dont think its a big deal, so I just let people choose to lower it.
if you have never seen someone use presto, then you haven't seen people that understand that is it basically lesser wish. Just because you can't make tools, doesn't mean you can't make useful things.
Message is NOT telepathy in any way, shape or form. I know you can rule otherwise, but that's important if other creatures, specially in roleplaying scenes, hear you cast the spell.
@@natanoj16 I know, I didn't said that, I could've been more precise. What I'm saying is, it's not telepathy and others could hear the verbal components and then seeing you moving your mouth. Also, trained enemies could read your lips when you deliver the message or just be really suspicious of the PC that casted something and then mouthed something.
@@lugh.i This, you still mouth the words and it is still going in their ear. This could be important as a deaf person cannot hear a message sent through the spell message. No one else can hear it as you do not actually vocalize the message, but the fact it just instantly goes to only their ear not their brain is important detail.
The thing about Read Aura is: It's the only way (by RAW) to know exactly that THIS ITEM is magical. Heightened Detect Magic only tells you "something in this square is magical" but - by RAW - it never allows you to make absolutely sure that an item is magical. Which also means you can't ignore the item's aura on you next casting of Detect Magic. Also, you can't use the Identify Magic activity unless you know for certain that an item is magical. So without Read Aura, you're never able to identify anything at all.
Identify Magic doesn't use any terms like "for certain", so it is left up to interpretation whether you can establish within reason that something is magical. It also doesn't make much intuitive sense. Perhaps you could convince someone that something is "for certain" magical (deception check), and then they would be able to attempt to identify it. Some items are also just clearly magical.
For message: In agents of edgewatch I had serial killer Hendrid Pratchett taunt the agents as he was torturing and killing a victim in his basement. There's no save so they'd just be interrupted in their search of the trapped mansion by Hendrid laughing sadistically and either screams of pain or sickening wet sounds in the background. Love this spell ^^
IMO, PF2 cantrips are a little underpowered, with the possible exception of Telekinetic Projectile and Electric Arc. The thing I would like them to do is to deal d4/spell level damage *and* do a minor thing. E.g. Ray of Frost should hit targets with a -5 speed penalty on a regular hit as well, and Produce Flame could do 1 point/level persistent damage on a hit as well. Then you'd get Telekinetic Projectile as the pure-damage cantrip dealing d6 instead of d4. Oh, and I'm somewhat upset that PF2 doesn't have the objectively best cantrip in any D&D version, which of course is Vicious Mockery.
Because maybe the character I wanted to play isn't from an ancestry that has access to dark vision. Because a torch requires a free hand and a glowing hat doesn't.
@@willswanson1840 Absolutely nobody in your party doesn't have a free hand? When people make arguments for light spells they sound like infomercial salesmen trying to come up with these very specific situations you'd have to deliberately put yourself in just so you can waste your resources or the thing they want you to get. I'm pretty sure there are more races with darkvision than ones without.
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Prestidigitation is the cantrip that lets you just 'be' a wizard and do day-to-day wizardy things. Sitting in a tavern with your party after a long day of adventuring? Add a tiny umbrella to your drink to add a bit of class. The tavern bully tries to spill someone's drink? Clean up the spill for the victim, and then flavour the bully's drink to something nasty, or add an unpleasant and embarrassing looking stain on his clothes.
This is the cantrip that let's you do little magical things that spice up your day and let's you really roleplay being a master of the mystic arts. If you can only throw fireballs a few times a day then you're effectively just a walking wand - this lets you BE magical in the little moments too.
I even got use out of the creating object ability, a shop owner told us he lost a bunch of magic items and we tracked down one of them in the form of a distinct dagger a guy in a bar had, he was unconscious so I took the dagger out and created a duplicate took the duplicate to the shop keeper asked if this was the missing dagger and without having to rob a drunk guy found out it was the same dagger, after that we took the real one out of his pocket and I put my fake back so hed think he still had it. and for fun I threatened him with the dagger knowing it couldn't slit his throat but he was drunk and couldn't tell so he confessed to stealing the items
Prestidigitation is the best spell in the game by far!
Mostly for thematic/rp reasons.
Dunno where he came up with the idea that the flavour and heat/cool doesn't last though. Does cleaning/dirtying not last either?
I've always wanted to be a Hedgewizard!
@@jmsr77 No, the spell says that "any alterations to objects OTHER than those listed above end when you stop Sustaining the spell." So, heating or cleaning an object would be persistent. Not sure what other effects you could achieve that wouldn't be covered by this, but at least I guess it prevents you from, say, drawing a mark on someone and having it last. That would interfere with Sigil's niche.
My favorite use for telekinetic projectile. "I drop my dagger.... it now becomes a deadly projectile that I will continually bounce around the room"
Prestidigitation feels like such a basic intro to magic, baby's first spell kind of cantrip that every spellcaster should get it as a bonus cantrip automatically. Or in this case, automagically.
Ya, I take it on every character that can because it feels out of character not to. Just the cleaning part alone is such a useful day-to-day thing that a person is going to want it. Like if I could pick a cantrip to learn in real life, it would be prestidigitation.
But only barely. The P2 version of the spell is by far the worst iteration of it I've seen.
@vez nan The range limit only applies to how far the object can be away when you flavour it, not how far away it retains the flavour. That's permanent. Well, until the object loses the flavour through other means, anyway.
My table changed Prestidigitation a bit so that the items created are useable, but are of 'Shoddy' quality, meaning a -2 circumstance penalty. Spell level 7, it loses the Shoddy quality. Nice for handing a lock pick off to the Rogue, or producing a handkerchief out of thin air.
My table has Prestidigitation as something everyone just gets for free.
pretty sure it specifically doesnt do that to not invalidate having the actual tools and items on hand
Honestly I was super surprised that Prestidigitation wasn't well-liked, considering how versatile and flavorful (ha) it is. Especially when compared to Sigil, which does only one thing that, while also fun for RP, is even less open to creativity than Presto is.
For me, it's the catch-all utility spell, probably one of the first spells any mage truly masters, and is basically "Quality of Life" the Cantrip. And even if the items you create look fake and don't provide mechanical benefit, it's extremely open as to what you can actually depict and create! Need an immediate prop for your performance as a street-magician? Sure, it might not look fantastic, but it definitely serves. Wanna cheer up a kid with a little origami animal? Yeh it won't last, but just the act itself could put a smile on their face, and even be used as a game where they call out something for you to make and you do so. Speaking of kids, reflavoring definitely seems like an easy way to get them to eat their veggies if it suddenly tastes like their favorite candy ;P
Definitely there's a lot of roleplay opportunity for it, so again I was just surprised it was kind of glossed over. But hey, different strokes and all ;P
Still, if I could have any one cantrip IRL, 13 times outta 10 I'm going for Presto, because it could just make my life and others peoples lives that little bit better ^_^
and specially: if the food is cold, I reheat it with the spell and immedially eat it. I mean sure, it's cold inside, but my body will probally reheat it.
or if something taste not so good, give it a good taste, eat it and if it's in your stomach, you can stop it
and it's for sure nice to prank people or similar, maybe making even a wrong way like: you make a fake trap, people try to dodge it, but instead run into the real trap
Also that “(beyond what is noted above)” kinda indicates that all changes Except those from “Make” are actually permanent(ish like food still comes to room temp eventually etc)
@@julzbehr6696 Permanent in the same way Heal is, effectively. The change doesn't become undone, but that doesn't stop you from getting your clothes dirty _again._
@@Llortnerof yes, permanent(ish)
*NoNat points out his glitter nail polish while saying he's an adult* And? Adults can also wanna look stunning! And you certainly do my guy!
We have a couple of military veterans in our group who talk about how great prestidigitation would be in the field. Marching through a desert? A nice cold pack and clean socks are great. Living off of iron rations? You can at least make them taste like they aren't hardtack and jerky.
I just started an Agents of Edgewatch game. As city watchmen, Tanglefoot came in handy in the first episode. Slowing down a fleeing mugger so that your allies can catch up is great. Since the PC's are trying to capture, not kill, it's very useful.
I love when Nonat comes out with JUST the video I need on the day I need it. Been building an Elf Bard and trying to figure out what Canttips to take.
"I'm an adult." I f-ing died. Love the channel. I've been sharing your videos to my new PF2 group and they've helped a lot. Keep up the good work!
Honestly, I love Telekinetic Projectile for the flavor. I once had an Orc Witch who *SPAMMED* this cantrip by throwing anything I could imagine at an opponent. Rocks? Basic. A twig? Bonk'em. A spider web? Slap the spider with their own web. A stone gargoyle's pieces are falling apart? Throw them back where they belong. Oh, a second wave of Kobolds coming after we defeated the first one? *Guess they're gonna get hit by their friend's heads.*
It got to the point where I was just looking everywhere for the coolest stuff around to throw at people. Even when I couldn't find anything funny, I would describe in excruciating detail the spins and maneuvers I did with the staff before shooting. I fondly remember one occasion where the fight was nearly over and I was running out of ideas, so I just put my staff against an enemy's forehead and fired the staff as my projectile at point-blank. It was super stylish.
I have a 'flavourful' idea for a wizard based on the Prestidigitation cantrip.
Take the chef background and go on a tour to taste all the foods that can be, so you can learn the exact nuances to your food flavouring and then compile it into a cantrip cookbook/tour guide. Also imagine a cocktail that as you're drinking it, it changes taste
As someone who lives in a muddy place and have been in the military, not having to deal with mud and instead just glitter-fart it away is the highest fantasy, most fulfilling experienced, I've come across playing TTRPGs so far.
Been playing for over 20y
My dad IN HIS FIRST GAME EVER asked if he could use telekinetic projectile to throw a curtain, from the building with a broken window, over a goblin to blind it or sort of net it. It was epic!
Tanglefoot can give speedy characters ( like Monk, Magus, Swashbuckler ) a lot of edge. In the case of Magus for example you can attack with spellstrike and then retreat so a melee character is forced to attack someone else or be forced to use more actions. -10feet is two squares, sometimes is the difference you need.
The only use for Prestidigitation I've found was to create cover to hide behind, usually a box or curtain to block line of sight. My table ended up calling it my security blanket whenever I pulled that trick.
Hey, just curious - is that possible? The spell does say the thing needs to be of negligible bulk and no real dimensions. Was it more of a (yeah, I’ll allow it) moment or not?
Can't wait for Secrets of Magic to drop so you can cover all the new cantrips.
Telekinetic projectile: get a 1 bulk weapon or the prison keys from 30f away instantly delivered to the fighter who is 30 feet in the opposite direction.... Vs
Mage hand: move something in 30f distance by 20f... Well at least if it were to be fragile you could move it without shattering it😅
I love Prestidigitation, but mostly just from fond memories of playing the stylish Magus butler of a noble fellow PC in a short-lived PF1e game. It was fun to flavor water, heat food, clean things, spontaneously generate plates, cups, utensils, etc., and once I even managed to tag a fleeing enemy with a big pink spot so it would be easy to see them in the crowd. Doesn’t make it a good spell, just good for that character. 😆
Mage hand to hold a blanket to give a rogue cover to hide is awesome.
This video was so hard to find because cantrip/cantrips isn't in the title and isn't searchable that way
The best use of Prestidigitation I've ever seen was the Wizard using it to change the flavor of a rather foul Orc ale, letting him roll with advantage and win a drinking contest, and thus win the information the party wanted from the Orcs.
But I agree. The majority of the time, Prestidigitation is good for minor roleplaying and flavor, and that's about it and it sees very little use at my table.
Best use of Prestidigitaton I've seen was from PF1 when the caster made fire a camouflage color to set a trap.
It's been so long that i thought this series was dead. Much joy, much joy indeed
You forgot to mention the best part of telekinetic projectile: it can do blunt, slashing, OR piercibg damage. 3 damage types. So those stone golems resistant to piercing and elemental magic? Blunt damage. Those trees that don't like the slashing ax of your barbarian? Do slashing too. Etc.
It's a good part of the spell, but an item with the appropriate damage type has to be in range.
@@phildiop8248 It's very easy to claim that there's SOMETHING in the room that works. Assuming that your GM is anal enough to even ask. If not, then just carry some knifes and sling bullets. Problem solved.
The shield spell has only a verbal component, so 2H weapons don’t interfere with it, AND it can trigger some reactions tied to Shield Block, like the Disarming Block from the Bastion Archetype.
Also, Telekinetic Projectile could be used like the example you gave to Mage Hand, someone dropped a weapon and you use TP to toss the weapon away haha
As a note, 2H doesn't interfere with somatic, just material and focus. So sorcerers can cast any spell even while juggling and doing a handstand
Downside is that Telekinetic Projectile has to target a creature, but if you do that you can indeed Shoot the sword that just fell down (at a different enemy or ally)
I had a 5e rogue with prestidigition and he got in so much trouble… or at least caused it
My first pathfinder character used a three action telekinetic projectile once. An enemy had a grappled ally and was using them as a living shield. I asked the GM if I could throw a rock behind the enemy and use telekinetic projectile to hit him in the back and bypass my ally. He allowed it! One action to throw the rock, two actions to cast. I enjoy the versatile flavor that comes from using any object in range as your bullet.
You know, been looking for a good series of maps. Thanks for pointing out Moonlight Maps.
You know, I never got Prestidigitation in any system. Mage hand is arguably more useful and more fun.
Look Prestidigitation is an OP spell, it is the only way to get spicy zombies.
Detect Magic doesn't have a duration, it is a single pulse, so to be able to identify the aura of 10 objects you would have to cast the spell 10 times, the ignore known magic items line is so you don't get drowned in the white noise of the magic auras of your parties equipment.
presdigitation... can be good but I think it's depends a lot on GM discretion, you can change you hair color with, clothes, and make a quick disguise (if the GM allow it of course).... also if it raining you can make an umbrella... as Sigil they are more RP cantrips than mechanicals...
Re: Mage Hand... If the weapon is unattended (dropped, etc) then it's more fun to launch that puppy back at the enemy or one of their cohorts using Telekinetic Projectile. ;-)
Many weapons probably weigh too much.
@@rylandrc it's not about weight, it's up to 1 bulk. Of the 145 weapons only 29 are 2 bulk. So it works on 80% of weapons.
@@TarEcthelion oh wow! I wasn't aware telekenetic projectile worked on things up to one bulk. I was thinking only negligible and light objects from a thematic standpoint.
7:00 I like having that spell... for my Eldritch Trickster Rogue who has a Demonic Sorcerer Bloodline and I was really pondering what kinda spells I want... for fluff and stuff. So she started out with the most useful spells... Sigil and Prestidigitation (I am no native speaker... I HATE this word!). So I know how she keeps her clothes clean, living on the streets most of the time ^^
I just love theese d9ves you do. Please, do more, man!
Correction about prestidigitation; it's effects are only a duration of sustain for the effects NOT listed above.
So clean, soil, change flavor, warm, cool, etc... will not stop when you stop sustaining. So your water will still taste like Pepsi.
You have to sustain it if you want to affect a bigger size/volume, right? Like cooking more than 1 pound.
I don't think you can. At least not at once. But every time you sustain you can affect one more pound.
Which makes me wonder what's the point of how it's written.
I'm not sure yet what the rules are for Pathfinder, but for D&D 5e, sometimes I wish that the DM would just allow anyone who can learn Prestidigitation to be able to take some downtime to learn it and have it not count against your cap on cantrips. If it's a spell solely used for roleplay and is functionally completely useless, I think it should be something that all casters who want it to have.
in my first training-like round, where we get teached into the stuff, we had a situation, where 3 cobolds where in a room, we first made a dialog, helped them to open a door, then as they try to run away, we stopped them.
the position was like that:
ME, friend goblin
cobold, cobold cobold
friend human
my goblin mate whispered to me, that we should maybe help them further and like trust them, with their leader problem. (I forgot to use the action "sense motion" so we didn't know really, if they say the truth or not)
soo to tell our mate behind the cobolds the plan, i used the message cantrip and probally helped to prefent a fight as later one, they helped with the evil cobolds.
I hope next episode he decided to rate them again but with something like 1 to 18 trees so just every episode has it’s own unique scale or lack there of
While there is in book wording like "cantrips are being cast at 1/2 your level" I think devs even said you should be able to downcast cantrips.
It's back!
on Prestidigitation the only useless one might be Lift, and thats because unlike other systems it doesn't talk about moving the object just Lifting it and not even to a respectable height to easily grab it.
Cook: getting too hot? Cool your clothes, getting to cold? Warm your clothes. Cooling: food, clothes (icy cold underwear prank?), ice! (prevents it from melting!), etc Warming: food, gloves/boots, anoying guests fork as they go to eat ice-cream, ice (makes it melt!), etc. Flavor: why not change how food/drink tastes to hide poison, make barely edible food taste better, prank enemies with bad tasting food, etc.
Tidy: yeah lets you tinker with a lot of cleaning or make something dirty as hell. useful for RP mostly but can also clean blood if you silent kill an enemy without taking a lot of time and leaving residue.
Make: omg there is a lot you can make, diorama of the building/cave, bust/ drawing of a person your looking for, etc. just limited by imagination.
14:30 And the best, the Sigil only fades naturally on creatures... at least how I read it since it states "If it is on a creature, it fades naturally". So if it is NOT on a creature, it does NOT fade ^^ Rubbing it away not counted of course but you would need to know it is there but how do you do that (without magic) if it is an invisible Sigil? You can tag almost every of your items that way ^^ And everybody who is familiar wit hthe spell knows that simply touching the object does not place a sigil on it sicne there is that verbal component.
Message
RAW verbal components are spoken aloud. That does not mean that the verbal component must be the message itself so what you described is totally possible!
So a "homebrew" rule that my GM has about Prestidigitation is that it lasts as long as it can naturally last, like if you warm food it might cool in 5 to 10 minutes, if you change the color of something depending on the state of matter of the object if it's solid it last a very long time, where as gas will change in a couple of seconds, the lifting though only lasts as long as you sustain it. Which makes sense. I very sorry for the run-on sentence 😆. I've never been good at this language I've spoken for about 36 years... English.
I like to think the verbal command to activate the cantrip message is "Can you hear me now?"
Actually had a game that the DM blocked magic missile with shield once. We all laughed at the rarity of that interaction. (In 3.5 days)
Qyestion. Can a summoner with the shield cantrip cast shield on his/her eidolon?
What happened to gouging claw? It wasn’t done in A to K either…
2:47 It was at this moment when I realized that your voice sounds pretty similar to Philip DeFranco.
My man really ditched the 0-1000 rating system XD
You can also read the aura of everything in a room to figure out exactly what's magical. Detect magic only tells you the square. If you have a large bookshelf, Read Aura can *quickly* reduce the time to find a single magical book on it.
Prestidigitation has been useful for cleaning blood stains with one particular dm I game with.
How do people like to approach using Telekinetic Projectile to launch alchemical bombs? As written, the bomb would not apply it's affects; "No specific traits or magic properties of the hurled item affect the attack or the damage". I'm not one for demanding realism or logic, but something does feel off about launching an explosive alchemical concoction with enough force to cause damage but somehow not detonate.
100% against it.
That is just exploiting rules to gain more power. To me Telekinetic Projectile simply doesn't fire such big objects. It fires a small rock, a bunch of glass splinters or the like. But not a full size potion.
@@natanoj16 I wouldn't say it's exploiting rules as they clearly state that traits of the item do not affect the attack or damage. Regarding size, an alchemical bomb (a light item, 10 light items = 1 bulk) is very much within the limits of the spell which lets you launch an item "that has 1 Bulk or less". For me the biggest issue with allowing players to do this is the increased range.
i can see telekinetic projectile being extremely useful. hurl a vial of acid. or a small bag of debuff potions. or an impact explosive...
Small correction. Light lasts until your next daily preparations or until you cast it on something else. You cant actually dismiss it otherwise. Just a funny quirk of the spell.
Yeah, specifically only spells that say they can be dismissed can be dismissed, otherwise they last until either a) if concentration is required you stop concentrating or b) or the run out naturally.
In pf1e we always had it you can dismiss any spell you cast with a duration. The exception is spells that are permanent unless they say they can be dismissed cannot be dismissed. It allowed for more spell control.
Prestidgitation is probably my most used thing in pf2e/5e.
telekinetik projektile can throw potions and bombs i think?
NoNat: I don’t like Prestidigitation
Also NoNat: I LOVE Sigil!!!
Nonat, do you think Tanglefoot will be any better (I say better, I mean a lot more viable) with the Magus after it's released? Personally I think having this on hand may help a lot with chase scenes, as one roll with weapon item bonuses and weapon damage might actually make this a worthwhile choice
Absolutely. Tanglefoot will have much better utility on the magus and will help them be sticky and hard to escape!
In Secrets of Magic there's a cantrip that counts objects for you. :3 Supposedly
I realize this is way late but I'm currently playing a Gunslinger with Wizard Dedication (for True Strike of course) and in the settlement of our party's town I have set up a range where I use Prestigitation(Make) to make fragile targets for NPCs or party members to have fun testing firearms with. It's part of my Earn Income RP for the character.
Not strictly useful but I thought it was clever so I didn't have to keep making practice targets via crafting.
I have a question regarding telekinetic projectile;
the "range" is 30ft.
"you hurl an object that is within range" so the object must be within 30 ft of you
but the target, it doesnt say where the target has to be or how far the object is hurled.
examples:
1. the target is 50ft away and the object is 25ft away. can i fling the object 25ft towards the target? does it stop once it hits the 30ft 'wall'?
2. the target is 30ft to my left, the object is 30 ft to my right. can i launch the object 60ft from one end of my range to the other?
it reminds me of the catapult spell from 5e, which clarifies the object must be *within* 60ft, but is *launched* up to 90ft.
Telekinetic projectile doesnt have this clarification so im a little lost on how to rule it.
Both the target and the object need to be within 30 feet of YOU. To compare look at Acid Splash, the text does not say the target needs to be in range. Telekinetic Projectile is the same range 30 feet, target: one creature. So the target needs to be within range. The text specifies the object must also be in range because there is no target entry for the object. So you can throw it 60 feet if the object and target happen to be in opposite directions and at the maximum range of the spell. To make the spell more useful you should have a slashing and piercing weapon of light bulk on hand (a dagger is an easy solution), if bludgeoning isn't working (or if you know the enemy is vulnerable to one of the other two), spend an action to draw your dagger and drop it for free and then use it to repeatedly slash your foe (for example). Generally there is always something you can use to bludgeon with this spell, although I guess you could drop a coin if you were somewhere weird with no features. It is theoretically possible to be unable to use this spell if you are (for example) in midair (no unattended objects, anything you drop would be out of range almost immediately). Otherwise its crazy useful. Combine with reach spell if you want more range (or just grab another cantrip for longer range).
I miss the 1e tanglefoot that made casters have to pass a concentration check to cast. It save our entire party from a lightening bolt wizard when he failed his concentration check.
Wait, PF's Prestidigitation doesn't let you light fires? Huh. 5e's version lets you throw sparks (only really strong enough to light a cigar, but still). I might actually have to buy a flint & steel... Or house rule it...
Regarding Heightening spells / downcasting: No idea what the official rule on this would be, but my vote would be to allow players to downcast anything to any lower heightened level that they have access to. So if you've got a cantrip with heightened levels at 3rd, 5th, and 7th, I'd give them the option to pick whether it's heightened, and which level it's heightened to.
You can use sigil to mark a target for later scrying.
Or in combat so you can tell your fighter to hit the guy with the green 'X'.
Okay I am not a Pathfinder player but I am kind of a rules lawyer.
Is Message Telepathic? "the target can hear your words as if they were standing next to you"
It is not delivered into the brain but the ear. So that would suggest it is a sound, albeit a extremely narrow and focused.
I think you're wrong on the duration of prestidigitation, at the bottom it says "any actual change to an object *(beyond what is noted above)* only lasts as long as you sustain the spell"
I take that to mean that the "intended" effects continue after the spell is no longer being sustained
Every arcane class should have prestidigitation for free. You could say it is why each wizards spells look different even though they the same spell.
*toss log on the fire of sacrifice*
Hi, I'm going to argue for Read Aura and your interpretation of detect magic!
The exact text of Detect Magic says "you can choose to ignore magic you're fully aware of, such as the magic items and ongoing spells of you and your allies." I would argue that simply knowing the 5-foot cube a source of magic is coming from doesn't make you fully aware of it. If you are rooting through some junk, and you detect transmutation among the junk, you still don't know what it is. It could be the old sword, or the rusty Spear, or the bag of gold. You are not fully aware of it. You can then cast Read Aura on the objects in that 5-foot square to find the exact item that is magical.
That's actually a smart usage of both Detect Magic and Read Aura. That sounds like a combo that would work well.
Was looking for this comment!
Yes, you need Read Aura to actually find the magic items, then identify them, then only can you ignore them with Detect Magic AFAIK. It's a hassle and something worth changing for PF3e.
@@kkme7 You don't *need* Read Aura. You could just spread the items out.
Secrets of magic about to double this list 😂
my lvl 5 sprite fighter will get the arcane archer archetype next lvl and im debating wether i should get telekinetic projectile or produce flame and I JUST CANT DECIDE AAAAAH
Since Cantrips are automatically heightened (not optional), you cannot cast it at a lower level, RAW anyway, right?
I allow my players to use sigil like it is used in the hobbit. They don't just stamp their own crest down, they can write whatever they want or draw. It just takes two seconds per square inch. This has lead to some creative moments that made the looser interpretation of the rules worth it.
Can't you stack tanglefoot? If they fail to escape can you just cut their movement speed upto -20 or even -30?
It is a circumstance penalty. Bonuses and penalties of the same type do not stack. There are three types that can come and go. Circumstance, item, and status. If it was utyped, so saying -10 movement penalty, it would stack.
I can't wait for you to react to the new Cantrips
I use sigil to give people people temporary tattoos or lineart for tattoos he can place on top of the sigil. Hes a tattoo artist
Message
-Verbal Component: Shouting "Hootie Hoo"
-Message Contents: "Sir, the law enforcement has arrived. We must depart post-haste."
Can you downcast a cantrip even though they auto-heighten? Yes if you follow logic and player agency and fun because the rule is vague and not being able to creates both a logical issue where casters arbitrarily forget how to do things they could do previously and a connected rules issue where certain classes are locked out of major class features and letting you downcast fixes all these with absolutely no balance issues so The First Rule applies. No by RAW if you are an overzealous rules lawyer that believes the game was designed in a way that makes you lose certain abilities and have less and less precise control over your magical power when you level up rather than the phrasing just being an oversight.
Also the only other similar ability (Signature Spells) let's you cast lower level versions if you pick a Heightened spell as your signature, so there's arguably precedent for heightening mechanics allowing downcasting.
Telekinetic Projectile + Cold Iron Sling Bullet. Drawing ammo is a free action.
Unfortunately, the spell specifies that no traits of the object affect the damage.
@@BalooSJ I get why they put that in there, but if the object thrown has no bearing on the damage then why specify it does blunt, piercing or slashing based on object? I know they don't want alchemist hurling bombs but to ignore non-magical properties of an object seems illogical. For weaknesses, it's not the object doing damage, but being exposed to the object that would cause more damage.
@@aliasmask I see your point, but it's more of a game balance thing. Casters are supposed to be good at exploiting/bypassing elemental weakness/resistance (with only very specific spells dealing with materials), and adding precious materials would make the spell too good (in the devs' opionions). Also, dealing with precious materials is supposed to be expensive at higher levels - that's why you need standard-grade materials for +2 weapons, and high-grade materials for +3 weapons.
Also, I'm not sure drawing ammo is technically a free action. It's part of the Reload action, which in turn can be part of the Strike action for a Reload 0 weapon. But if you're drawing a sling bullet on its own? That's definitely an action.
The only weakness to Tele-Projec is that it has to be a physical damage type, so if you're fighting something incorporeal, it's not gonna hurt that much. Also, I'm surprised you made this video now when Secrets of Magic is less a month away and full of damaging cantrips.
There is no rule that says you can downcast cantrips but I just have them roll the spell's level DC
I just allow them to downcast ^^
@@natanoj16 math rocks go clickity-clackity lol my players like rolling dice
Am I blind or are the maps not linked in the description?
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Hey, Nonat! Your preview lied to us, this is cantrips from L to T!
I see prestidigitation as a catch-all for role play magical effects. So the list of things it does should be an example rather than an exhaustive list of everything it does. Things like minor illusions that everyone automatically recognizes as illusions. Teleporting a coin from one hand to another. Reading a thought that someone adjacent to you is broadcasting to you. Other such fun and mechanically useless things.
Need to add a caviat that this is BEFORE Secrets of Magic. XD
Dump/Scatter Caltrops - Telekenetic Projectile those bad bois into the faces of your enemies (works with sling bullets too in a pinch) 🤪
For druids with their wild shape you are supposed to not be able to become weaker shapes anymore so I would guess the same counts for hightened cantrips (which I will immidiately ignore in my games ;) )
Yes. I would argue that the phrasing is CLEARLY a design oversight because who the heck would design a game where you lose abilities and control when you level up?
Shield only stops the hardness value of magic missile.
Likely answered already, but the wording on page 299 of the core rulebook states "CAN cast a spell at a higher spell level..."
the "Can" implies this is optional so you "can" simply not cast it at heightened.
HOWEVER. page 300 under cantrips says "Cantrips are automatically heightened..."
I would argue that RAW, the specifics of the cantrip section overrules the Heightened section, but DM fiat, I'd just personally make it optional as per page 299.
tl;dr: as written, they must be heightened. Personally, I dont think its a big deal, so I just let people choose to lower it.
if Create Dunkaroos were a cantrip, I would cast it constantly
Well, there is "create food" and "Enhance Victuals" level 2 spells. With them, you could create tasty Dunkaroos.
Prestidigitation is useful if you want to be... "A GREAT MAGICIAN! YOUR SHIRT IS BLUE!" (Yes, that is a Kung Pow reference. Sorry, Not Sorry.)
Tiger. Tiger, Tiger, Tiger. Mmmmmbirdy. Birdy birdy.
I will call you... Betty.
@@dalekreject7324 But isn't Betty a Woman's Name?
@@Nonat1s Weeeee-oooooooh! Weee-oooh!
if you have never seen someone use presto, then you haven't seen people that understand that is it basically lesser wish. Just because you can't make tools, doesn't mean you can't make useful things.
Message is NOT telepathy in any way, shape or form. I know you can rule otherwise, but that's important if other creatures, specially in roleplaying scenes, hear you cast the spell.
The verbal component isn't the message itself. It is a verbal component.
@@natanoj16 I know, I didn't said that, I could've been more precise.
What I'm saying is, it's not telepathy and others could hear the verbal components and then seeing you moving your mouth. Also, trained enemies could read your lips when you deliver the message or just be really suspicious of the PC that casted something and then mouthed something.
@@lugh.i This, you still mouth the words and it is still going in their ear. This could be important as a deaf person cannot hear a message sent through the spell message. No one else can hear it as you do not actually vocalize the message, but the fact it just instantly goes to only their ear not their brain is important detail.
The thing about Read Aura is: It's the only way (by RAW) to know exactly that THIS ITEM is magical. Heightened Detect Magic only tells you "something in this square is magical" but - by RAW - it never allows you to make absolutely sure that an item is magical. Which also means you can't ignore the item's aura on you next casting of Detect Magic.
Also, you can't use the Identify Magic activity unless you know for certain that an item is magical. So without Read Aura, you're never able to identify anything at all.
Identify Magic doesn't use any terms like "for certain", so it is left up to interpretation whether you can establish within reason that something is magical.
It also doesn't make much intuitive sense. Perhaps you could convince someone that something is "for certain" magical (deception check), and then they would be able to attempt to identify it.
Some items are also just clearly magical.
Moreover, a character could just convince themself that something is magical, and then attempt to identify it. Power of belief.
Well, if there's only one object in a square, identifying which object in the square is the magical one is rather simple.
For message: In agents of edgewatch I had serial killer Hendrid Pratchett taunt the agents as he was torturing and killing a victim in his basement. There's no save so they'd just be interrupted in their search of the trapped mansion by Hendrid laughing sadistically and either screams of pain or sickening wet sounds in the background.
Love this spell ^^
IMO, PF2 cantrips are a little underpowered, with the possible exception of Telekinetic Projectile and Electric Arc. The thing I would like them to do is to deal d4/spell level damage *and* do a minor thing. E.g. Ray of Frost should hit targets with a -5 speed penalty on a regular hit as well, and Produce Flame could do 1 point/level persistent damage on a hit as well. Then you'd get Telekinetic Projectile as the pure-damage cantrip dealing d6 instead of d4.
Oh, and I'm somewhat upset that PF2 doesn't have the objectively best cantrip in any D&D version, which of course is Vicious Mockery.
Nope... you cannot downcast a cantrip RAW. They're automatically heightened to half your level (rounded up) without exception.
Yea. I realised that as well.
Then we as a group decided that we didn't like it and chose to ignore it ^^
7:40 I guess I'm "no one" then.
shield is awesome, light is awesome, tanglefoot is awesome. my 3 most used cantrips on any caster tbh
"light is awesome" In what situation?
In the situation where it's dark.
@@willswanson1840 First of all why aren't you a race that has darkvison, seccond of all why does nobody in your party have a torch?
Because maybe the character I wanted to play isn't from an ancestry that has access to dark vision. Because a torch requires a free hand and a glowing hat doesn't.
@@willswanson1840 Absolutely nobody in your party doesn't have a free hand? When people make arguments for light spells they sound like infomercial salesmen trying to come up with these very specific situations you'd have to deliberately put yourself in just so you can waste your resources or the thing they want you to get. I'm pretty sure there are more races with darkvision than ones without.
How do you do so regular videos?!
It's just ridiculous efficiency.
He showed us right at the beginning
Dude's been mimicking paizo for real
Well this is my full time job, so I put about 40 hours of work in per week! Between writing homebrew, running social media, recording, editing, and publishing 3 videos a week comes to about that many hours! It's tough, but I love it! I really appreciate this comment! ♥
@@CErra310 lol