I have been watching pedal board / FX loop / effects videos all week. And this one is the most precise, clean cut explanation of the process. Thank you.
i just surfed youtube for over an hour trying to find a good video to explain this. once again. the tone king delivers. i'm going to this guy from now on! this video was incredibly helpful and really explained to me what i need to do with my hot rod deville 4x10 with my pedals. awesome job TK!
A truly clear and great explanation on the subject. You have the gift for teaching. I only wish someone had taught me that stuff years ago when being a youngster. But great thanks on behalf of the millions of youngsters out there!
Very clear, nice! As far as compression goes, consider turning OFF when you go OverDrive or Distortion, and ON for cleaner tones, especially if you're playing clean with a loud accompanying band. It can really make the longer tones heard instead of having them get swallowed.
That was the best explanation of the proper order for fx pedals I've seen to date!!! Not only that but you explained the difference between overdrive and distortion as well as how to use them. Also by using those mini amps you really made it easy to follow especially how to use effects loops or high/low gain amps. Thank you very much for this I'm sure i'll be referring friends to this video in the future.
Man you just taught me what I needed to know...best video I've seen on Pedalboards ...The Best...Thanks for spending your time and effort in doing so...P.S You probably" ROCKED "pun Intended" at Legos as a kid...LOL ! Thanks man.
I've spent hours looking for a clear, concise explanation regarding effects order and, more important to me, which effects go though the FX loop. This summed it up perfectly.
In 2020 I've been chasing tone. Then I see this video and I realize all my overdrive pedals, ect were in the wrong position on my pedal board. Thank you Tone King, I just found the sound I have been chasing without buying another pedal.
I really like TTK, I saw a lot of your videos :-) But this time I disagree a couple of things...compressors act on dynamic range and not frequencies......and noise gates should go before reverbs and delays to prevent gated tails. Apart that, great video and keep on rocking.
shouldn't the noise gate come before the delay/reverb? if the noise gate is last it is going to cut off the reverb/delay abruptly not allowing them to fade out naturally.
Metallion 1,968 i dont see the logic in that... i have always put it first as i was taught to do and there it works great so please explain why you say it should be last.
I quote it. Right position for the gate/expander is immediately after our axe. Most properly for the NS2 is: guirar>gate in, gate send>hi gain stompbox/amp in, amp send>gate return, gate out>amp return.
Dude wtf lol this video is exactly what I was looking for this whole time, it was super easy to understand why certain things go first and why you would need certain pedals on certain amps. This video was killer and super easy to understand everything I was missing in my understanding of a pedal board. Thanks!
I put my chorus into the front, it's more organic that way. That said my rig is 2 HW 18w Marshall clone heads (built myself) and stereo 212. Infact it's the same with a phaser for me always into the front, distorted or clean. I suppose it's because I only want to add a bit of texture not go crazy with it (unless it's a tape echo and I've drank my own body weight in beer, in which case the slide comes out and the mess begins).
Information in this video is no doubt one of the best...... I been playing around the hard way for the past 2 days and my set up ends up exactly like this.
I'm just busy making the transition from a multi-fx unit to individual stomp boxes and just this one video has been invaluable, thank you. I've subscribed and will be watching a lot more!
This is the best teaching video I've seen , you explained it so the average Joe can understand especially the distortion overdrive for a clean or dirty amp cheers man
Question: Where is the best place for: 1) buffer 2) tuner 3) volume pedal? Answers: 1) Most Boss pedals use a buffer so you may not need one. Also, only needed for long cable runs (usually), but NEVER before fuzz or Germanic pedals 2) Anywhere works but in the very front or in the loop is better (first out assuming you don't distort). Coming off a volume pedal AUX output in a loop is best so you can leave it on and in true bypass unless you play metal or distorted only. 3) Back, or in the loop - otherwise use your instrument volume knob. No wrong answer. Some people use more than one so you can adjust input (gain) between pedals. Gets tricky to manage though. Use sparingly. This guy is spot on and knows his stuff. Very understandable and useful content here. Subbed! He laid out in minutes what took me years of trial and error!
hi, it´s great to have your advice about things that we wouldn´t know any other way, given your experience and the tons of equipment you have at hand, keep the great job showing us guitar players how to make the best with our equipment, thanks, greetings from México!!!
Excellent discussion. The only thing I would add is that if you're shifting amps around, some don't like one or more pedals in those "standard" places. Experimentation is the key.
That makes sense! Guitar which is Output to Tube Screamer to input of amp. Use Effects loop for effects chorus etc...Send and Return. Very good explanation; was wondering about the order! Thanks Tone King!
this video really helped me. I've also read a lot of how to order my pedals on my pedalboard and they said pretty much the same thing you did. However you said some stuff I didn't know so thank you. My chain is this: guitar>wah>input of boss ns2 noise suppressor then out the send>tuner pedal>boss cs3 compression pedal>mxr dyna comp>ibanez tube screamer>the return of the boss ns2 noise suppressor out the output of the boss ns2 noise suppressor>digitech delay>boss dd6 delay>fender amp. ur thought?
I am new to the scene of pedals. I had been using guitar processors till now but then I came to realise that I can never find a tone which I can personalise to a desirable extent on a guitar processor than on a custom pedalboard. This is an eye opener video Sir, and kudos to you for enlightening me as to how and where to place the pedals on the pedalboard. Great guiding video! :)
TK you rock I am a recent entry I just bought a Epiphone 2 guitar amp combo and I have been buying pedals to play metal and it is just bewilering!! Thanks for the vid!! I have already subscribed, and will continue to watch!! Thank you BIG TIME!!
If you're going to use a Noise Gate/Suppressor with an Effects Loop built in and your amp has also has an FX loop, use the x-wiring Boss at the first of the chain with ODs/Dist pedals in the Noise Gate's Effect's Loops and Time based effects after the FX loop and any compressors or wahs before the Noise gate, that way you get the most accurate suppression and no tone suck and horrible sustain loss. Most people use the Boss NS-2 at the end of the signal chain like you recommended without using it's FX loop is only using like 50% of its abilities. That pedal was designed to be used in tandem with an fx loop amp and X-wired.
I am running 15 pedals on my pedal board ... I put a lot of thought into the chain order ... This is the exact order I came up with LONG BEFORE I even got a chance to see your video ... I do not use an FX loop ... Thx 4 having and giving the same opinion and thoughts ... GREAT MINDS think alike ...
This video was so helpful! I've always played acoustic, I just picked up a small clean amp and and electric pickup for my washburn. I want to start adding effects and this video was an excellent starting point and I feel like it will give me somewhat of a leg to stand on when I go into my local music shop. Thanks.
Great and informative video! One thing I would change though is you wouldn't want to put your chorus in front of the delay because your sound will be out of phase with every repeat of the echo. Having chorus after delay, all the sounds will be chorused!
Very informative!! Finally i can just go to your channel and use it for a resource I'm being honest I was getting overwhelmed with everyone's interpretation of sound advice amp's pedals etc This will be my encyclopedia Britannica...Keep up the excellent work.. I will recommend your channel to my musician brethren..
I recently purchased a dozen Danelectro pedals and had no idea how to connect them in any kind of order. Thank you so much for the detailed video instruction. It really took a lot of guess work out of trying to figure out this mess that I have pleasantly created. Thanks again Guy
I agree with Mr. Ayala. To me this subject I think, to me, is easier than I make it. I thank you Tone King for making this video that makes it the easiest for me to understand. Thank You!
TK-I noticed your comment about comps. I agree that a comp in most instances is unnecessary, but it you are going for the current country twang, a comp is almost a necessity. When doing studio work the volume of a good tube amp can fill the need, but in most club gigs you can't push the volume that hard and so a comp comes in handy.
Thank you so much! I just ordered a bunch of pedals that I ordered and tried and have no idea how to place them with my Marshall JVM. Now I do!! Thank you again. So understandable.
There are two main places to stick you tuner (if you have it in your chain). At the very start, or just behind the Wah. The reason is that you want to have the purest signal going into your tuner to give you the most accurate results. Things like distortions can introduce harmonics which will interfere with your tuner. A wah generally won't interfere with your pitch so it's ok to chuck that in front of the tuner, as a wah works well with the purest signal.
Compression pedals are great for funk riffs where the clean sound is a bit unbalanced and rough, but I'm certainly no expert like this guy. Great video.
Great info. Even after all these years of playing ive never taken the time to find out how to set these kind of things up properly and effectively. Thanx!!!
People generally put filter pedals after where the wah would be. If you have no wah, then right in the front. This is because filters require careful tracking of the guitar signal. Personally, I put mine after my compressor because I believe that the fixed dynamic range of a compressed signal would be easier to track. It's not a big audible difference but try both and see what works best for you.
Excellent again. I'm noticing a little loss of signal strength and was thinking about adding a compressor pedal... Here is my chain: Tuner>>Tube Screamer>>Morley Wah>>>> into guitar, I was thinking adding compressor here then EQ>>Flanger>>Delay into Efex loop. Thoughts?
yes noise does come from single coil pickups, BUT, a hissing noise comes from the OD and Dist pedals much more, and even from the OD on the amp, that is why its best to have it set very last in the chain. Either way the NG stops pickup noise, but if set before od channels, it doesnt stop the hiss sound.
I was already on the right track. I'll try your suggestion of preceding the phaser, flanger, and delay with the graphic eq and see how much difference it makes.
Your majesty! Thank you for the video! I really enjoyed it. I wanted to ask though if you have any thoughts or tips on where to put things like a synthesizer pedal, an acoustic simulator, or a looper pedal.
At the beginning, my friend. Or what you may want to do is invest in a line selector pedal. Then you put it at the beginning, and have Line A go to the tuner, and Line B go to the signal chain. What this does is ensures silent tune-ups if you're playing live. Cheers.
Great video, very helpful and informative. I appreciate how he made sure you understand what he's getting at, compared to other videos where you have to watch 20 times to get the picture.
It's all about what sounds good to you. Experiment with placement of pedals to find what sounds the best. Don't let anyone tell you what's right or wrong.
That was a good tutorial. I have come to the same conclusion over the years. I have seen some awful pedal user guides. This girl was using a Fender Frontman, Her idea was that you fit the pedals where the voltage input doesn't get in the way of the next pedal. She had her tuner near the end. She also didn't know the 2 inputs on the Frontman 212R are different. She had no idea what passive or active electrics were and that they each go into different inputs. Thanks again
That is mental.... That is EXACTLY how i came to setting up my pedals after years of trial and error! All the overdrive before the amp and the rest in my f/x loop. Sweeeet.
I place my Octave after the Distortion and EQ because it adds more Grit and Punch to the sound. I found placing my PitchShifter (used as a mild Harmonizer) closer to the end of the chain rather than in front of Overdrive/Distortion has a nicer effect. Chorus definitely works best in the Effects Loop making the sound much more clear-cut and in this position, you can actually turn the dials Down & get a better result. (SKB Powered Pedalboard- Wireless > Tuner > Wah > Overdrive > Distortion > EQ > Octave > Delay > PitchShifter > Reverb) {FX Loop - > BBE Sonic Maximizer > Alesis M-EQ 230 > Alesis 3630 Compressor w/ Gate > DOD Ice Box chorus > TC Electronics Spark clean boost
You're absolutely right about the compressor- but a much More ideal spot is somewhere in the Effects Loop. If you leave it in the Direct Signal, it's gonna squash everything else that you've got running in the chain. It's just what the Frikken thing does. In the Effects Loop, you'll have Alot More control.
Hey man, thanks for that. Really helpful! I've been playing for 17 years and am only now starting to use pedals. I was always put off them in the beginning as friends who had effects pedals compensated poor playing with these, so I went for the guitar - wah - amp setup. But I'm using 5 to 6 pedals now as my function band calls for it and I wasn't aware of the importance of what pedal should go where. Again, many thanks.
After a lot of experimentation I have decided that i prefer the phase before any drive pedals. I feel that it is more natural to have a phased signal overdriven then to have an overdriven tone phased, it that makes sense. Of course, it may be six of one half dozen the other...
3:00 it would depend on if you want to boost the volume or the gain of your sound, if you front end a distortion it will give it more gain, but if you put the overdrive after the distortion it will change the volume..
Always put the noise gate ahead of your delay and reverb (verb shoild be dead last to colour the whole tone of your chain). If you put it after echo effects it will crush the ambience and clip off the decay.
This is a very fine video. I'm one of those that play guitar primarily in my living room or bedroom for my own enjoyment which means that I usually play clean only sometimes adding an Ibanez Tube Screamer. That said, lately I've been experimenting with effects like the Roland Space Echo and sometimes add an MXR Custom Badass '78 and/or Boss Chorus pedal. I was a little puzzled about how they should be placed in order. You teach very well and have been a big, big help to me. Thank you!
It depends on what you're going for if you have a Strat w/noisy pick up's in front, or no other FX in the Loop in front for a Tight dead stop sound. But I would say to use it in the loop @ the end of the signal set to noise suppression, to get rid of HISS from High Gain amp's like the NS-2 Boss has a GATE function that will give you the Dead stop & works great @ the end b4 the Amp If you want the Tight Punchy stop's think D B Darrel.& the NS-2 doubles as a power supply for other box's .
EQ in the front or in the effects loop depends on user preference and needs. In most typical situations, it goes in tge signal chain feeding into the front of the amp.
tuner goes first if you have a tuner pedal due to the fact other fx's can effect the guitars pitch a little so you want a completely dry signal going into your tuner so you will get your guitar perfectly in tune
If your using the amp for distortion then the delay must be in the effects loop so that the delay signal is not doubled into the pre-amp where the distortion is created, which would make it sound crap. Try it yourself, the same happens when a delay is placed before a distortion pedal. The delayed low signal is sent into the distortion pedal and clipped the result is a very harsh sounding distortion...
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why is equalizer not put after the Delay/Reverb?
Where would you put something like a Digitech Drop Pedal in the chain? Pre or Post?? I would think Pre since it's like an Octaver??
I have been watching pedal board / FX loop / effects videos all week. And this one is the most precise, clean cut explanation of the process. Thank you.
Where would u put your noise gate pedal???
@@leschnyhan1542 end of tone chain =last pedal bfr plugging into front end of amp.
@@michaelgreen5206 Thanks Michael!
And thank you TTK!
Brilliant. Such a simple common sense video, Facts, logic, and personal wisdom. Thank you. Your ten minute talk has probably saved me hours.
I think a noise gate should go near the end, just before reverb and delay, so the trailing delays don't cut out.
i just surfed youtube for over an hour trying to find a good video to explain this. once again. the tone king delivers. i'm going to this guy from now on! this video was incredibly helpful and really explained to me what i need to do with my hot rod deville 4x10 with my pedals. awesome job TK!
A side note: The Graphic EQ also works very well as a boost for solos. I have mine in the same position as his and it works well.
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This is by far, without a doubt, the best video breakdown of pedal board chains out there. Thank you and rock on
A truly clear and great explanation on the subject. You have the gift for teaching. I only wish someone had taught me that stuff years ago when being a youngster. But great thanks on behalf of the millions of youngsters out there!
dude thanks for helping me figure out my effects chain. You rock!!!
Most useful video on youtube I seen so far
Very clear, nice! As far as compression goes, consider turning OFF when you go OverDrive or Distortion, and ON for cleaner tones, especially if you're playing clean with a loud accompanying band. It can really make the longer tones heard instead of having them get swallowed.
This is a must-see video, PERIOD!!!
That was the best explanation of the proper order for fx pedals I've seen to date!!! Not only that but you explained the difference between overdrive and distortion as well as how to use them. Also by using those mini amps you really made it easy to follow especially how to use effects loops or high/low gain amps. Thank you very much for this I'm sure i'll be referring friends to this video in the future.
THIS HAS TO BE THE BEST VIDEO! THANKS!
Man you just taught me what I needed to know...best video I've seen on Pedalboards ...The Best...Thanks for spending your time and effort in doing so...P.S You probably" ROCKED "pun Intended" at Legos as a kid...LOL ! Thanks man.
This video 10 years of age.. But the facts is i need this info right now.. Huhuhu.. Thanks TTK
I've spent hours looking for a clear, concise explanation regarding effects order and, more important to me, which effects go though the FX loop. This summed it up perfectly.
when you say paint the picture, you really know how to paint. You are very good at explaining this
finally this guy gets it ..loop your damm delay and verbs ax players ..
In 2020 I've been chasing tone. Then I see this video and I realize all my overdrive pedals, ect were in the wrong position on my pedal board. Thank you Tone King, I just found the sound I have been chasing without buying another pedal.
I really like TTK, I saw a lot of your videos :-)
But this time I disagree a couple of things...compressors act on dynamic range and not frequencies......and noise gates should go before reverbs and delays to prevent gated tails.
Apart that, great video and keep on rocking.
Agree with dynamics on compressor where do you have it in your chain I like it first or 2nd
My respect, for a guy who really likes be helpful and truthful to the great art of music. CHEERS from Portugal, ToneKing!
shouldn't the noise gate come before the delay/reverb? if the noise gate is last it is going to cut off the reverb/delay abruptly not allowing them to fade out naturally.
nope, it is the other way around, trust me and the Tone king is absolutely right.
Just answering your question bro.
Metallion 1,968 i dont see the logic in that... i have always put it first as i was taught to do and there it works great so please explain why you say it should be last.
I agree...putting it after the delay/chorus really kills those pedals whole purpose.
I quote it. Right position for the gate/expander is immediately after our axe. Most properly for the NS2 is: guirar>gate in, gate send>hi gain stompbox/amp in, amp send>gate return, gate out>amp return.
I agree, the gate will cut the Trails
Dude wtf lol this video is exactly what I was looking for this whole time, it was super easy to understand why certain things go first and why you would need certain pedals on certain amps. This video was killer and super easy to understand everything I was missing in my understanding of a pedal board. Thanks!
I put my chorus into the front, it's more organic that way. That said my rig is 2 HW 18w Marshall clone heads (built myself) and stereo 212. Infact it's the same with a phaser for me always into the front, distorted or clean. I suppose it's because I only want to add a bit of texture not go crazy with it (unless it's a tape echo and I've drank my own body weight in beer, in which case the slide comes out and the mess begins).
I put it first in line as far as modulators, followed by pitch shifter
EVH did this for his infamous brown sound
Information in this video is no doubt one of the best...... I been playing around the hard way for the past 2 days and my set up ends up exactly like this.
You have enlightened me.
Now I need the moneyz.
10 years later and this was invaluable. Many thanks mate.
Look at that purdy 5150!
I'm just busy making the transition from a multi-fx unit to individual stomp boxes and just this one video has been invaluable, thank you. I've subscribed and will be watching a lot more!
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Where would you put an acoustic simulator in this same setup?
Between the compressor and the wah.
This is the best teaching video I've seen , you explained it so the average Joe can understand especially the distortion overdrive for a clean or dirty amp cheers man
Thanks you make it clear and simple but understandable thanks again.
thanks for this!...after 30 years of playing ive never had any proper fx pedals and now i know what i can do! cheers!
Question: Where is the best place for: 1) buffer 2) tuner 3) volume pedal?
Answers:
1) Most Boss pedals use a buffer so you may not need one. Also, only needed for long cable runs (usually), but NEVER before fuzz or Germanic pedals
2) Anywhere works but in the very front or in the loop is better (first out assuming you don't distort). Coming off a volume pedal AUX output in a loop is best so you can leave it on and in true bypass unless you play metal or distorted only.
3) Back, or in the loop - otherwise use your instrument volume knob. No wrong answer. Some people use more than one so you can adjust input (gain) between pedals. Gets tricky to manage though. Use sparingly.
This guy is spot on and knows his stuff. Very understandable and useful content here. Subbed! He laid out in minutes what took me years of trial and error!
FX order for dummy's!
I love it.
Being an effects novice, I needed this.
Very helpful.
Thanks for posting.
This is the most clear and concise instruction I've seen. Thumbs up!!!
hi, it´s great to have your advice about things that we wouldn´t know any other way, given your experience and the tons of equipment you have at hand, keep the great job showing us guitar players how to make the best with our equipment, thanks, greetings from México!!!
Very concise pedal order instructional! Thank you for taking the time to explain these concepts so clearly.
Excellent discussion. The only thing I would add is that if you're shifting amps around, some don't like one or more pedals in those "standard" places. Experimentation is the key.
That makes sense! Guitar which is Output to Tube Screamer to input of amp. Use Effects loop for effects chorus etc...Send and Return. Very good explanation; was wondering about the order! Thanks Tone King!
Excellent summary. I also love the mini-amps doing the stunt/stand-in work during the high-gain distortion segment. Will definitely subscribe!
this video really helped me. I've also read a lot of how to order my pedals on my pedalboard and they said pretty much the same thing you did. However you said some stuff I didn't know so thank you. My chain is this: guitar>wah>input of boss ns2 noise suppressor then out the send>tuner pedal>boss cs3 compression pedal>mxr dyna comp>ibanez tube screamer>the return of the boss ns2 noise suppressor out the output of the boss ns2 noise suppressor>digitech delay>boss dd6 delay>fender amp. ur thought?
This explained everything perfectly for me after reading articles and watching videos for the past week, thank you!
I am new to the scene of pedals. I had been using guitar processors till now but then I came to realise that I can never find a tone which I can personalise to a desirable extent on a guitar processor than on a custom pedalboard. This is an eye opener video Sir, and kudos to you for enlightening me as to how and where to place the pedals on the pedalboard.
Great guiding video! :)
I've heard of musical chairs but musical pedals is much more fun and makes more sense. Great job, very well and clearly explained, thank you.
Ive been playing for 6 years and this should be mandatory veiwing for all players
TK you rock I am a recent entry I just bought a Epiphone 2 guitar amp combo and I have been buying pedals to play metal and it is just bewilering!! Thanks for the vid!! I have already subscribed, and will continue to watch!! Thank you BIG TIME!!
If you're going to use a Noise Gate/Suppressor with an Effects Loop built in and your amp has also has an FX loop, use the x-wiring Boss at the first of the chain with ODs/Dist pedals in the Noise Gate's Effect's Loops and Time based effects after the FX loop and any compressors or wahs before the Noise gate, that way you get the most accurate suppression and no tone suck and horrible sustain loss. Most people use the Boss NS-2 at the end of the signal chain like you recommended without using it's FX loop is only using like 50% of its abilities. That pedal was designed to be used in tandem with an fx loop amp and X-wired.
Rock on, mate! Now everything is clear, you are giving some light in to this beginner's darkness!
This is the best explanation I've gotten so far. A good, simple way of explaining it. Thanks for the video
I am running 15 pedals on my pedal board ... I put a lot of thought into the chain order ... This is the exact order I came up with LONG BEFORE I even got a chance to see your video ... I do not use an FX loop ... Thx 4 having and giving the same opinion and thoughts ... GREAT MINDS think alike ...
This video was so helpful! I've always played acoustic, I just picked up a small clean amp and and electric pickup for my washburn. I want to start adding effects and this video was an excellent starting point and I feel like it will give me somewhat of a leg to stand on when I go into my local music shop. Thanks.
This guy knows what he's talking about, for some reason I just watched a bunch of similar videos , not so much, this is good info.
Great and informative video! One thing I would change though is you wouldn't want to put your chorus in front of the delay because your sound will be out of phase with every repeat of the echo. Having chorus after delay, all the sounds will be chorused!
Very informative!!
Finally i can just go to your channel and use it for a resource I'm being honest I was getting overwhelmed with everyone's interpretation of sound advice amp's pedals etc This will be my encyclopedia Britannica...Keep up the excellent work..
I will recommend your channel to my musician brethren..
I recently purchased a dozen Danelectro pedals and had no idea how to connect them in any kind of order. Thank you so much for the detailed video instruction. It really took a lot of guess work out of trying to figure out this mess that I have pleasantly created.
Thanks again
Guy
I agree with Mr. Ayala. To me this subject I think, to me, is easier than I make it. I thank you Tone King for making this video that makes it the easiest for me to understand. Thank You!
TK-I noticed your comment about comps. I agree that a comp in most instances is unnecessary, but it you are going for the current country twang, a comp is almost a necessity. When doing studio work the volume of a good tube amp can fill the need, but in most club gigs you can't push the volume that hard and so a comp comes in handy.
Thank you so much! I just ordered a bunch of pedals that I ordered and tried and have no idea how to place them with my Marshall JVM. Now I do!! Thank you again. So understandable.
There are two main places to stick you tuner (if you have it in your chain). At the very start, or just behind the Wah. The reason is that you want to have the purest signal going into your tuner to give you the most accurate results. Things like distortions can introduce harmonics which will interfere with your tuner. A wah generally won't interfere with your pitch so it's ok to chuck that in front of the tuner, as a wah works well with the purest signal.
Compression pedals are great for funk riffs where the clean sound is a bit unbalanced and rough, but I'm certainly no expert like this guy. Great video.
Killer man. Really good rundown, especially keeping the fx loop separate on a good high gain amp. A lot of people don't understand that.
Great info. Even after all these years of playing ive never taken the time to find out how to set these kind of things up properly and effectively. Thanx!!!
never used pedals, had multi effects, but now that i understand more about pedals i am thinking of changing from digital to analog effects. thanks man
People generally put filter pedals after where the wah would be. If you have no wah, then right in the front. This is because filters require careful tracking of the guitar signal. Personally, I put mine after my compressor because I believe that the fixed dynamic range of a compressed signal would be easier to track. It's not a big audible difference but try both and see what works best for you.
Excellent again. I'm noticing a little loss of signal strength and was thinking about adding a compressor pedal... Here is my chain: Tuner>>Tube Screamer>>Morley Wah>>>> into guitar, I was thinking adding compressor here then EQ>>Flanger>>Delay into Efex loop. Thoughts?
yes noise does come from single coil pickups, BUT, a hissing noise comes from the OD and Dist pedals much more, and even from the OD on the amp, that is why its best to have it set very last in the chain. Either way the NG stops pickup noise, but if set before od channels, it doesnt stop the hiss sound.
Cheers to you , this would be up there among the most sensible things on the internet
Thanks for the video. It is the most clear and understandable pedal order explanation I've seen.
I was already on the right track. I'll try your suggestion of preceding the phaser, flanger, and delay with the graphic eq and see how much difference it makes.
Your majesty! Thank you for the video! I really enjoyed it. I wanted to ask though if you have any thoughts or tips on where to put things like a synthesizer pedal, an acoustic simulator, or a looper pedal.
This is exactly what I was looking for. Great video man.
At the beginning, my friend. Or what you may want to do is invest in a line selector pedal. Then you put it at the beginning, and have Line A go to the tuner, and Line B go to the signal chain. What this does is ensures silent tune-ups if you're playing live.
Cheers.
Great video TK!....... By far the best "pedal order" video I've seen.
No BS!!!!! Just straight up Information.
Great video, very helpful and informative. I appreciate how he made sure you understand what he's getting at, compared to other videos where you have to watch 20 times to get the picture.
It's all about what sounds good to you. Experiment with placement of pedals to find what sounds the best. Don't let anyone tell you what's right or wrong.
that statement is incorrect
That was a good tutorial. I have come to the same conclusion over the years. I have seen some awful pedal user guides. This girl was using a Fender Frontman, Her idea was that you fit the pedals where the voltage input doesn't get in the way of the next pedal. She had her tuner near the end. She also didn't know the 2 inputs on the Frontman 212R are different. She had no idea what passive or active electrics were and that they each go into different inputs. Thanks again
Ttk is awesome. Very no fluff and unbiased reviews. Not loaded down with technical jargon.
That is mental.... That is EXACTLY how i came to setting up my pedals after years of trial and error! All the overdrive before the amp and the rest in my f/x loop. Sweeeet.
I place my Octave after the Distortion and EQ because it adds more Grit and Punch to the sound. I found placing my PitchShifter (used as a mild Harmonizer) closer to the end of the chain rather than in front of Overdrive/Distortion has a nicer effect.
Chorus definitely works best in the Effects Loop making the sound much more clear-cut and in this position, you can actually turn the dials Down & get a better result.
(SKB Powered Pedalboard- Wireless > Tuner > Wah > Overdrive > Distortion > EQ > Octave > Delay > PitchShifter > Reverb)
{FX Loop - > BBE Sonic Maximizer > Alesis M-EQ 230 > Alesis 3630 Compressor w/ Gate > DOD Ice Box chorus > TC Electronics Spark clean boost
You're absolutely right about the compressor- but a much More ideal spot is somewhere in the Effects Loop. If you leave it in the Direct Signal, it's gonna squash everything else that you've got running in the chain.
It's just what the Frikken thing does.
In the Effects Loop, you'll have Alot More control.
Great, very clear, especially with the little amps thrown in for clarity. Thanks,
behringer pedals sound really good when you got the right setting and have them in the right spot
Hey man, thanks for that. Really helpful! I've been playing for 17 years and am only now starting to use pedals. I was always put off them in the beginning as friends who had effects pedals compensated poor playing with these, so I went for the guitar - wah - amp setup. But I'm using 5 to 6 pedals now as my function band calls for it and I wasn't aware of the importance of what pedal should go where. Again, many thanks.
After a lot of experimentation I have decided that i prefer the phase before any drive pedals. I feel that it is more natural to have a phased signal overdriven then to have an overdriven tone phased, it that makes sense. Of course, it may be six of one half dozen the other...
3:00 it would depend on if you want to boost the volume or the gain of your sound, if you front end a distortion it will give it more gain, but if you put the overdrive after the distortion it will change the volume..
Always put the noise gate ahead of your delay and reverb (verb shoild be dead last to colour the whole tone of your chain). If you put it after echo effects it will crush the ambience and clip off the decay.
Awesome! Clear and precise, just what I was looking for.
This is a very fine video. I'm one of those that play guitar primarily in my living room or bedroom for my own enjoyment which means that I usually play clean only sometimes adding an Ibanez Tube Screamer. That said, lately I've been experimenting with effects like the Roland Space Echo and sometimes add an MXR Custom Badass '78 and/or Boss Chorus pedal. I was a little puzzled about how they should be placed in order. You teach very well and have been a big, big help to me. Thank you!
It depends on what you're going for if you have a Strat w/noisy pick up's in front, or no other FX in the Loop in front for a Tight dead stop sound. But I would say to use it in the loop @ the end of the signal set to noise suppression, to get rid of HISS from High Gain amp's like the NS-2 Boss has a GATE function that will give you the Dead stop & works great @ the end b4 the Amp If you want the Tight Punchy stop's think D B Darrel.& the NS-2 doubles as a power supply for other box's .
EQ in the front or in the effects loop depends on user preference and needs. In most typical situations, it goes in tge signal chain feeding into the front of the amp.
tuner goes first if you have a tuner pedal due to the fact other fx's can effect the guitars pitch a little so you want a completely dry signal going into your tuner so you will get your guitar perfectly in tune
I had to watch this like and comment after seeing the Intheblues live feed hookup you joined today :) I really enjoyed it.
yes it does!!! tuner comes first, and volume pedal comes last (unless you have a looper, where it would be last and volume would be second last)
thanx alot man...I am a old guy getting back into playing and I really appreciated your description of effects order and amp chains...cool
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This video is quite old but damn that's the best tutorial on how to set a pedalboard/loop. You just got a subscriber sir!
first thing thank you i said it again Man you're doing a great job i've learned so much from you..Man you got a brother smiling......
Thanks for the insight ! Really straightens out the questions most of us have !
about the Wah pedal, it depends on the sound u want only, I saw many people put it on the last one and sound really good
If your using the amp for distortion then the delay must be in the effects loop so that the delay signal is not doubled into the pre-amp where the distortion is created, which would make it sound crap. Try it yourself, the same happens when a delay is placed before a distortion pedal. The delayed low signal is sent into the distortion pedal and clipped the result is a very harsh sounding distortion...