i use a combination of wasd and motor 2 mouse control, i basically only use m2m for pitch because with wasd my jets move sharply and people complain about that so i tune it
@@Ospaar back when they did 1v1 stans flew entirely differnt types of planes using glitched mouse. Hes alot more refined now with WASD because its alot more efficient in a digfight
@@Ospaar mix of both stans is more of a fresh pilot, i really introduced him to the dogfighting side of things and ive been slowly teaching him the basics of fighting and helping him with his jets nam is more experienced but hes been stuck with only using m2m for who knows how long, which really limits what he gets out of his experience, especially when looking at how the opposing aircraft controls
14:07 me after taking out like 20 prop engines from my stunt jet and realising it didnt affect the manuvers and only made the plane more stable in flight
How dare you fucking insult Nam. I hope you know I graduated top of my class in M2M School... Nam is the best there is. You insulting him is also insulting me; don't make me go goblin mode.
I am a former namnam user and from my experience, m2m has been downright the most unreliable controls for dogfighting ever. It always wobbles at high speeds, which is expected in a serious dogfight. Whenever I try to dogfight with m2m, I constantly have to swipe my camera around and it becomes tiresome. The only use of m2m to me is for CAS since the aiming is more accurate
I use glitch mouse and tbh i won the dogfights many time some of them the wasd was also good i thing is the wasd when im facing the target i accidentally press the button W for so long it made me pull buts its still good wasd but im still using glitch mouse
Another problem about using motors on your elevator jet when your in high speeds and high in lag it literally makes seizures or shaking immensely on the motor elevators while manuvering your jet or decreasing speeds (happens only if your stabilizer is huge enough to make this and lag ofc)
I still kinda struggle to make a jet thats good for combat, i made one that was decent but it had a high stall speed, at 250 speed it was nearly impossible to manouver, my keyboard has been acting weird, my d and s key are malfunctioning so full keyboard control is not an option for me, motor 2 is pretty much dependant on keyboard control so someone tell me what am i supposed to do?
@@Coldyraps ye, in these 5 months i solved the issue, did modifications to previous jet and now it has a stall speed of 70 and top speed of 2.3k, and in the last 4 months i havent been able to play roblox on pc as my display driver and windows 10 version are outdated
imo its not that bad, i mean yes m2m can cause some problems but u can also make seperate ailerons and use the second motor in a WASD setup, and if u really want ur rudder u can make it one wing panel longer and do the same thing. oh and wasd on its own doesnt fly straight with a unbalanced aircraft wich is mostly the case with PVP jets
Honestly i all comes down to the player on what kind of control scheme they want. For example i use m2m for my strike planes and regular bombers because aiming is easier but i use WASD for planes like my torpedo bomber or super manoeuvrability jet for the more control ability So it just comes down to the player and what they prefer
Nose propellors are a spitting image of tryhards, its a building game for fun, share the fun without ruining others fun. I use tuts and just modify them realistically, i make it fast and have slow turnrates, i also use guided cam missiles instead of rockets I also have limited fuel so time to time i can go to the airport and just refuek and taxi and takeoff I wanna have fun too, but i dont wanna take it away from others at the same time
i dont use mine in pvp, i use mine in only 1 of my jets in order for thrust vectoring because its kinda hard to put realistic thrust vectoring engines in tiny planes Edit: I removed them and it handles the exact same
Wait about what you said about doing a post stall without propellers, how would that be possible? I can’t see how you would be able to do a full 360 flip at 0 speed without the help of propellers
@@The-Stans i mean it would take a LOT of practice but eventually someone would be able to dogfight with m2m. Its mostly based on skill though. (btw nam nam has the m2m toggleable so with the props you can stil do wasd)
How dare you fucking insult Nam. I hope you know I graduated top of my class in M2M School... Nam is the best there is. You insulting him is also insulting me; don't make me go goblin mode.
How dare you fucking insult Nam. I hope you know I graduated top of my class in M2M School... Nam is the best there is. You insulting him is also insulting me; don't make me go goblin mode.
How dare you fucking insult Nam. I hope you know I graduated top of my class in M2M School... Nam is the best there is. You insulting him is also insulting me; don't make me go goblin mode.
6:46 i learned something thx
Surprisingly good part of the vid
hi rubber
This guide is amazing and so what if it has a few flaws it’s genuinely the best plane crazy video I have ever seen not even joking.
3:35 the problem is that it’s quite hard to center your mouse if you don’t practice a lot and even then it’s not always flying straight
i feel liek once you play the game alot most things come as muscle memory.
i use a combination of wasd and motor 2 mouse control, i basically only use m2m for pitch because with wasd my jets move sharply and people complain about that so i tune it
i understand where your coming from but tbh if pitching too sharply is a problem you might just need to make it less sensitive when pitching up
so you dont care about your subscribers wow
With all of these technical pointers and corrections, the biggest question is: who would prove superior in combat?
Him, he beat him in a 1v1 months ago.
Stans won
So my next question: was victory and defeat contributed to differences of pilot skills or building skills?
@@Ospaar back when they did 1v1 stans flew entirely differnt types of planes using glitched mouse. Hes alot more refined now with WASD because its alot more efficient in a digfight
@@Ospaar mix of both
stans is more of a fresh pilot, i really introduced him to the dogfighting side of things and ive been slowly teaching him the basics of fighting and helping him with his jets
nam is more experienced but hes been stuck with only using m2m for who knows how long, which really limits what he gets out of his experience, especially when looking at how the opposing aircraft controls
14:07 me after taking out like 20 prop engines from my stunt jet and realising it didnt affect the manuvers and only made the plane more stable in flight
It overall wasn't the props that made it stable it was the weight. 20 blocks will drastically change how a smaller aircraft or any aircraft flies
How dare you fucking insult Nam. I hope you know I graduated top of my class in M2M School... Nam is the best there is. You insulting him is also insulting me; don't make me go goblin mode.
What’s “Goblin Mode”?
gobby bobby goblin mode
he's morbin
Lmao
no one finna be messing with you buddy lol
Blud still uses control panels 💀💀💀💀💀💀
wth are control panels
?@@therealtoast.1
@@thekid7328 there is not a block called control panels
yes there is@@therealtoast.1
@@thekid7328 there isnt
thanks alot you help me build better plane now
I am a former namnam user and from my experience, m2m has been downright the most unreliable controls for dogfighting ever. It always wobbles at high speeds, which is expected in a serious dogfight. Whenever I try to dogfight with m2m, I constantly have to swipe my camera around and it becomes tiresome. The only use of m2m to me is for CAS since the aiming is more accurate
Hold right click, If you're on mobile though I agree
Although, its both a opinion and a tip at the same i perfer both ,so I use both guide on my draken and works really well❤
ngl m2m probably goes crazy in just normal pubstomping
I use glitch mouse and tbh i won the dogfights many time some of them the wasd was also good i thing is the wasd when im facing the target i accidentally press the button W for so long it made me pull buts its still good wasd but im still using glitch mouse
I only use m2m for ground attack aircraft for precision bombings/strafings tbh
this, i can respect.
Another problem about using motors on your elevator jet when your in high speeds and high in lag it literally makes seizures or shaking immensely on the motor elevators while manuvering your jet or decreasing speeds (happens only if your stabilizer is huge enough to make this and lag ofc)
Are you referring to m2m?
make a guide
mmmmmmm. 1k subs
I still kinda struggle to make a jet thats good for combat, i made one that was decent but it had a high stall speed, at 250 speed it was nearly impossible to manouver, my keyboard has been acting weird, my d and s key are malfunctioning so full keyboard control is not an option for me, motor 2 is pretty much dependant on keyboard control so someone tell me what am i supposed to do?
Get a new keyboard, i recomment dell keyboard
@@Coldyraps ye, in these 5 months i solved the issue, did modifications to previous jet and now it has a stall speed of 70 and top speed of 2.3k, and in the last 4 months i havent been able to play roblox on pc as my display driver and windows 10 version are outdated
imo its not that bad, i mean yes m2m can cause some problems but u can also make seperate ailerons and use the second motor in a WASD setup, and if u really want ur rudder u can make it one wing panel longer and do the same thing. oh and wasd on its own doesnt fly straight with a unbalanced aircraft wich is mostly the case with PVP jets
The rail gun tutorial doesn't even work it either explodes ur jet, the cap doesn't come off or it doesn't fire
Honestly i all comes down to the player on what kind of control scheme they want. For example i use m2m for my strike planes and regular bombers because aiming is easier but i use WASD for planes like my torpedo bomber or super manoeuvrability jet for the more control ability
So it just comes down to the player and what they prefer
these namnam stans better not be serious about this 😭
fear
m2m or full keys is based on preference...
nah bro
m2m and limits you alot more and you have more control wth keybourd
@@The-Stansi use a mix of both, so like pitch with m2m and ws and roll is a d
@@therealtoast.1 same.
The stans pvp jet guide when??
mayyby
@@The-Stans i could help with that :)
@@The-Stans please do it
how does locking blocks into each other make lag? theres no collision
blocks dont like being inside each other, hover engines lag more the more you put inside each other, stuff like that.
@@The-Stans they're welded together and not pushing off of each other so j don't really see the problem
@@whoseuler i did motor lock, my fps went to 60 from 144. thats a lot
@@pawn6 that sucks doesn't it
I sense a title wave coming, and we’ll be here to witness it
its be funny
here come the fanboys lmao
Shoot coming from me, this is gonna be one helluva night to remember
@@Vol_ante lets hope
make ur own guide
He will at 1k subs
Uhmmmm it opinion kid...😅
tbh it helps alot
Nose propellors are a spitting image of tryhards, its a building game for fun, share the fun without ruining others fun.
I use tuts and just modify them realistically, i make it fast and have slow turnrates, i also use guided cam missiles instead of rockets
I also have limited fuel so time to time i can go to the airport and just refuek and taxi and takeoff
I wanna have fun too, but i dont wanna take it away from others at the same time
nose props are for shitters who cant make their plane turn well in the first place.
i dont use mine in pvp, i use mine in only 1 of my jets in order for thrust vectoring because its kinda hard to put realistic thrust vectoring engines in tiny planes
Edit: I removed them and it handles the exact same
Wait about what you said about doing a post stall without propellers, how would that be possible? I can’t see how you would be able to do a full 360 flip at 0 speed without the help of propellers
He is basically Namnam hater. Everyone has been own control options .
nah bro im just critiquing his videos from a dogfighting standpoint.
Kk nvm my bad
@@The-Stans i mean it would take a LOT of practice but eventually someone would be able to dogfight with m2m. Its mostly based on skill though. (btw nam nam has the m2m toggleable so with the props you can stil do wasd)
this is the definition of a :nerd_emoji:
no
Chad
Also nam's jets can toggle the M2M control to WASD control so it's a no problem when it comes to high speed dogfighting
Alr now THIS is actually the worse
he only pointed out how to improve namnam's guide
@@crit5034 yaa it's pretty bad point tbh
Shee
How dare you fucking insult Nam. I hope you know I graduated top of my class in M2M School... Nam is the best there is. You insulting him is also insulting me; don't make me go goblin mode.
love
goblin mode swag
How dare you fucking insult Nam. I hope you know I graduated top of my class in M2M School... Nam is the best there is. You insulting him is also insulting me; don't make me go goblin mode.
buetiful
How dare you fucking insult Nam. I hope you know I graduated top of my class in M2M School... Nam is the best there is. You insulting him is also insulting me; don't make me go goblin mode.
Son, your brother said "Don't make me go Goblin Mode."
What is goblin mode?
@@UmActshuwally Goblin Mode.
He gonna go morb
wat ju wil do
kil me in pp sever with ur superlit supermanveralibility flanker jet 😈😈😈😈
@@HARRAWISH Exactly.