The OECDs recent forecasts for NZ are pretty dire. But let's keep focusing all our attention and resources to the never ending grievance that is Maori.
And yet our PM struggles to understand how economically impacting all this divisive nonsense is. We need a leader with a backbone, who will call this bs out for what it is. Given that Maori (as a cohort of the population) suck way more out of the economy than they contribute in taxes, if they were acting in anyway in good faith, then the foreshore and seabed should be there for the BENEFIT OF ALL - period!
@@janetamplin7318 Yes, women are believed and men have to prove they are right. I am $440K down in legal fees, and waiting for a high court hearing date, and after 4 years the ex is still in my house and will not settle after being given 7 generous offers to settle. It is a rought that benefits the legal system, a system that utlimately is toothless until you get to the high court and spend a fortune for nothing.
It’s not going to get your wife back. If they want to leave, let them go. It’s tough but it’s best to worry about your children in a family breakdown and we have the COCA Act to ensure us men have a fair say.
@@Froggability Govt needs Maori out of the way to allow foreign corporations in. Don't be fooled by the access bs. This is the tip of a bigger fck burger.
@@geofflewis8599 What fight the Iwi and so on who are state funded in all the bS had happens in the courts. Good way to got to hell in a handbasket. ..
I refuse to eat anything from the sea. There's just not enough in there anymore! As for mining . . . ANYTHING from that belongs to ALL KIWIS, not just a darker shady set!
I may not be around, but when different ethnicities such as Indian s or Chinese make up larger percentages of the population, are they required to care about the treaty?
this race grifting has to stop, what is happening is rich people are supporting maori to get around the king's chain so that it can be given back to moari, who then sell it to these rich folks, NZers need to be very wary of any of this stuff, as the king's chain is our greatest treasure and completely unknown in the rest of the world.
What would be interesting to learn is what evidence you have for what you've written. I'm not saying you are right or wrong, I don't know. But referencing your sources would clear that up.
@normpihere9646 Access to areas of harvest is the issue, I believe. If there is alternative access great. If not ? You may have to allow access. Not intrusive access to all your privacy. Just curtious access.
Hear the frustration, Sean. Engineers always build the Bridge with a goal to reach completion. Sooner than later. getting the job done stands tall among men. Unlocking the indecisiveness in the Justice System brings people together.
Huge amount of NZ public are against seabed mining. NZ First are adamant that this will happen. If they can pay Maori so they say yes and therefore shoulder the blame , it's all go. The political asspects surrounding this are suspect
Its not complex, legal precedence for property ownership has already been established in the English legal system and all theyre doing is determining whether or not it fits within the criteria which they have decided aligns it to the maori version of events and understanding
The SC thinks it's a judgment, it's on the paper as a judgment, and it applies with jurisdiction to allow the A-G's appeal, so... it sure looks like a judgment to me. A narrow one, vis a vis the appeal, but still a judgment. NZSC-164: A The appeal (by the Attorney-General in relation to s 58 of the Marine and Coastal Area (Takutai Moana) Act 2011) is allowed. B Costs are reserved. Introduction [1] This is the first of two judgments relating to claims to customary rights in the harbours, river mouths, beaches, and seascape of the eastern Bay of Plenty.1 I would have thought there were legal protocols for issuing judgments on matters which have been actively taken up by the legislature. This point is not even referenced in the judgment. It takes 70 pages of narrative to get to the issue at hand, which is that there is an appeal against a Court of Appeal judgment and here are the facts and arguments. It does seem irregular, as Gary suggests.
I'm thankful, I dont know to who or what though, that there's nothing I care about enough to obsess over. Indeed its difficult to get too excited about much outside of my own bailiwick. I can only express pity while I wonder why an individual, once sucking on the governments teet, has found for himself a new life thinking about and speaking resentfully about the descendants of the other Treaty partner as though these folks are his natural enemy. To some, it may appear that Señor Plunket has a gnat in his britches that wont go away over the people that live, love and work in ways he arrogantly dissaproves of. I suppose being judgmental, a "gaslighter" and growly old Bear is his shtick. It's a pretty one dimensional life I would imagine. But as its been often said before, but not by Sean Plunket, theres room for everyone
My tipuna signed He Whakaputanga 28.10.1835 and Te Tiriti 17.2.1840. Pōmare believed he had not given up any sovereignty and stated that he was not able to in any case, as it belonged to all of his iwi - Capt Clendon. He Whakaputanga Article 2: The sovereignty/kingship (Kīngitanga) and the mana from the land of the Confederation of New Zealand are here declared to belong solely to the true leaders (Tino Rangatira). Te Tiriti Article 2: Her Majesty the Queen of England confirms and guarantees to the Chiefs and Tribes of New Zealand and to the respective families and individuals thereof the full exclusive and undisturbed possession of their Lands and Estates Forests Fisheries and other properties which they may collectively or individually possess.
@@jasonberry7687 You need to check your history. The killing off of Moriori has been debunked. I remember that coloniser rhetoric being taught when I was at primary school in the 60s and 70s. A teacher said at that time that I couldn't be related to Sir Maui Pōmare as Māori history didn't really exist. The world's woken up since then. Colonial fibs have been fact-checked.
@@jasonberry7687 You need to check your history. The killing off of Moriori has been debunked. I remember that coloniser rhetoric being taught when I was at primary school in the 60s and 70s. A teacher said at that time that I couldn't be related to Sir Maui Pōmare as Māori history didn't really exist. The world's woken up since then. Colonial fibs have been fact-checked.
This kind of judiciary makes me sick to the stomach
Deranged elite lawyers
The OECDs recent forecasts for NZ are pretty dire. But let's keep focusing all our attention and resources to the never ending grievance that is Maori.
Never ending grievance BY Maori, mostly based on exaggeration and blatant lies swallowed by useful idiot pakehas.
The attorney general is the person who is right 👍 and the treaty needs changed
Two or more paries to sign a contract son, not one
And yet our PM struggles to understand how economically impacting all this divisive nonsense is. We need a leader with a backbone, who will call this bs out for what it is. Given that Maori (as a cohort of the population) suck way more out of the economy than they contribute in taxes, if they were acting in anyway in good faith, then the foreshore and seabed should be there for the BENEFIT OF ALL - period!
Absolutely!
I would love The Platform to start looking into the anti-male and anti-father divorce industry.
Yes .I strongly agree. the decived lies from the Woman and she is the truth....and the man father is aggressive has to be investigated
@@janetamplin7318 Yes, women are believed and men have to prove they are right. I am $440K down in legal fees, and waiting for a high court hearing date, and after 4 years the ex is still in my house and will not settle after being given 7 generous offers to settle. It is a rought that benefits the legal system, a system that utlimately is toothless until you get to the high court and spend a fortune for nothing.
100% agree
He's been through a divorce, and shared custody of his son with his ex wife.
It’s not going to get your wife back. If they want to leave, let them go. It’s tough but it’s best to worry about your children in a family breakdown and we have the COCA Act to ensure us men have a fair say.
They already have free access to virtually the entirety of 15000km coastline. Iwi pay entirety of court costs and stop wasting taxpayer $
@@Froggability Govt needs Maori out of the way to allow foreign corporations in.
Don't be fooled by the access bs. This is the tip of a bigger fck burger.
They want the seabed for minerals
@@esexton921 as is dightfully theirs
Supreme Court gaslighting.??
WEF
Did you hear that... it's the sound of front doors closing as our educated middle class sell up and leave for Australia... PERMANENTLY!!!.💔🇳🇿
,,but don't worry about the cowards and run-aways. The real Kiwis will remain and fight.
@@geofflewis8599 What fight the Iwi and so on who are state funded in all the bS had happens in the courts. Good way to got to hell in a handbasket. ..
@@caravanstuff2827 that explains why youre still there
I refuse to eat anything from the sea. There's just not enough in there anymore!
As for mining . . . ANYTHING from that belongs to ALL KIWIS, not just a darker shady set!
So will whaling stations be able to be claimed by foreign countries?
I may not be around, but when different ethnicities such as Indian s or Chinese make up larger percentages of the population, are they required to care about the treaty?
@chrishamill1242 Yes. If your here then your standing in treaty land.
@@tracymichaelsen493That’s a head in the sand attitude that will not end well I suspect.
@@JW-xg9my So are you trying to drum up Maori to be racist against Asians? Your sad.
@tracymichaelsen493 No you're standing in land. The treaty has already been honoured by us all been equal
@@overover.. F-off
Why is Gary not on the bench? Oh that's right- he's far too sensible!
or fckd
@@saxdearing3395 hes a ditherer
Another swamp to add to the list
Where are the othe 11 coments
this race grifting has to stop, what is happening is rich people are supporting maori to get around the king's chain so that it can be given back to moari, who then sell it to these rich folks, NZers need to be very wary of any of this stuff, as the king's chain is our greatest treasure and completely unknown in the rest of the world.
What would be interesting to learn is what evidence you have for what you've written. I'm not saying you are right or wrong, I don't know. But referencing your sources would clear that up.
thank you again Gary, always relevent, a fan favourite
If you where to walk the chain it wouldn't be Maori who stop access.
Pakeha own land within the now designated the kings chain which was purchased before 1840, therefore are you going to take it off them?
@normpihere9646 Access to areas of harvest is the issue, I believe. If there is alternative access great. If not ? You may have to allow access. Not intrusive access to all your privacy. Just curtious access.
AND THE PEOPLE THAT MATTER AIN'T LISTERNING!!
“The Truth” is elusive ….
...but will set you free.
@ right and thanks. But only if I can find it ….
Then again, we can just make it up, right?
@ thanks man.
But only if I can find it. So why is the Truth so elusive?
The activists scramble information to make the truth elusive
Only to those that dont want to know the truth
Hear the frustration, Sean. Engineers always build the Bridge with a goal to reach completion. Sooner than later. getting the job done stands tall among men. Unlocking the indecisiveness in the Justice System brings people together.
Huge amount of NZ public are against seabed mining.
NZ First are adamant that this will happen.
If they can pay Maori so they say yes and therefore shoulder the blame , it's all go.
The political asspects surrounding this are suspect
Why does Sean always talk over everyone.
He has profound tinnitus and deafness from his younger years as a disco DJ. Too proud to wear aids. But boy could he fill a dance floor in the day
In the old days the king made pronouncemets. This is a classic case of lawyers playing the part ....we know best!
Its not complex, legal precedence for property ownership has already been established in the English legal system and all theyre doing is determining whether or not it fits within the criteria which they have decided aligns it to the maori version of events and understanding
The bill is Dodgy, Dishonourable, Distracting and Devisive💯
The modern revisionist Treaty is a treacherous perversion of truth.
4:33 - Sean realises he’s illiterate and needs to go back to Plunket 😂
The Platform should replace TV 1 Breakfast show
Pronouncement=Formal declartation of opinion
The SC thinks it's a judgment, it's on the paper as a judgment, and it applies with jurisdiction to allow the A-G's appeal, so... it sure looks like a judgment to me. A narrow one, vis a vis the appeal, but still a judgment. NZSC-164:
A The appeal (by the Attorney-General in relation to s 58 of
the Marine and Coastal Area (Takutai Moana) Act 2011) is
allowed.
B Costs are reserved.
Introduction
[1] This is the first of two judgments relating to claims to customary rights in the
harbours, river mouths, beaches, and seascape of the eastern Bay of Plenty.1
I would have thought there were legal protocols for issuing judgments on matters which have been actively taken up by the legislature. This point is not even referenced in the judgment. It takes 70 pages of narrative to get to the issue at hand, which is that there is an appeal against a Court of Appeal judgment and here are the facts and arguments.
It does seem irregular, as Gary suggests.
I'm thankful, I dont know to who or what though, that there's nothing I care about enough to obsess over. Indeed its difficult to get too excited about much outside of my own bailiwick. I can only express pity while I wonder why an individual, once sucking on the governments teet, has found for himself a new life thinking about and speaking resentfully about the descendants of the other Treaty partner as though these folks are his natural enemy. To some, it may appear that Señor Plunket has a gnat in his britches that wont go away over the people that live, love and work in ways he arrogantly dissaproves of. I suppose being judgmental, a "gaslighter" and growly old Bear is his shtick. It's a pretty one dimensional life I would imagine. But as its been often said before, but not by Sean Plunket, theres room for everyone
@brucegibbins3792 If Sean loved himself more instead of hating Maori he wouldn't be one pork pie away from a cardiac arrest
"... this THING that came out..." Sounds like disdain Gary... not impartial are we? I'd say that 17 days to think about it is long enough...
My tipuna signed He Whakaputanga 28.10.1835 and Te Tiriti 17.2.1840. Pōmare believed he had not given up any sovereignty and stated that he was not able to in any case, as it belonged to all of his iwi - Capt Clendon. He Whakaputanga Article 2: The sovereignty/kingship (Kīngitanga) and the mana from the land of the Confederation of New Zealand are here declared to belong solely to the true leaders (Tino Rangatira). Te Tiriti Article 2: Her Majesty the Queen of England confirms and guarantees to the Chiefs and Tribes of New Zealand and to the respective families and individuals thereof the full exclusive and undisturbed possession of their Lands and Estates Forests Fisheries and other properties which they may collectively or individually possess.
Tell it to the moriori the land owners
@@jasonberry7687 You need to check your history. The killing off of Moriori has been debunked. I remember that coloniser rhetoric being taught when I was at primary school in the 60s and 70s. A teacher said at that time that I couldn't be related to Sir Maui Pōmare as Māori history didn't really exist. The world's woken up since then. Colonial fibs have been fact-checked.
It's so nice enjoying the Moa roaming wild in out forests.
@@NA-sj9jy Stop being silly or I'll tell your mum.
@@jasonberry7687 You need to check your history. The killing off of Moriori has been debunked. I remember that coloniser rhetoric being taught when I was at primary school in the 60s and 70s. A teacher said at that time that I couldn't be related to Sir Maui Pōmare as Māori history didn't really exist. The world's woken up since then. Colonial fibs have been fact-checked.