good writing for sure. i was thinking the same thing on this video wondering if he has people help with research and writing, so many videos i can't imagine the time it takes
They used to think the city of troy was a myth and ridiculed the ppl who believed in it soooo im honestly open to all mythical cities having some basis in fact
@@FingerSpazm sorry but yes it started being unearthed in the midnineteenth and its been agreed by acheologists for a while that its troy. Maybe youre thinking of the Trojan war because i think theres still a lot of speculation about that being a myth.
Sure, but this isn’t mythological, this is “Hey I found some square rocks, I can call it a city and get famous”. There’s no evidence it’s actually anything.
Actually I think there was a recent paper that was published that concluded the erosion in the Spinx Closure was indeed caused by heavy rainfall and water erosion. And would make it at least 6,000 to 7,000 years older.
How dare you question the world view of our great grandfathers. White people invented absolutely Everything. My idiot great grampa told me so. Never question authority.
I actually buy into the Sphinx being several thousand years older than typically given dates. Many, many, many scientists have said that the erosion on the statue looks like water erosion. It bugs me to death that people like Zahi Ewas claim to know everything about a lost society and anything that disputes what they say is brought forth, then it must be BS.
The alternative sphinx theory is based on the assumption that the erosion patterns only could've occured from heavy rain fall; which is false. It most likely occurs from morning dew being sucked into the porous limestone, which dissolves salt crystals in the rock, which then puts pressure on the outer layer of stone when the dew evaporates, causing it to flake off. The wavey patterns are simply the product of different layers off limestone flaking differently due to different levels of salt and pores. We also know for a fact, both from written records and archaeological evidence, that the pyramids and surrounding complex were constructed around 2500 BCE. Sure, the sphinx could hypothetically already have been there with the pyramid complex constructed around it. But that still wouldn't explain the fact that the edge of the central pathway leading up to the middle pyramid (which was clearly constructed as part of the pyramid complex in 2500 BCE) has the same erosion pattern. I highly recommend this video: ua-cam.com/video/lK2JM_nlkbM/v-deo.html (which has actual sources listed, whereas most fringe theorists mostly work off of circumstantial speculation) Mainstream historians don't automatically disregard alternative theories just because it disagrees with previous established consensus; they disregard them because they lack actual hard evidence. Mainstream history changes and adapts all the time, as long as there's evidence. Individuals have very little power in terms of historical consensus, so the idea that someone like Zahi Hawass single handedly has kept the consensus static for decades is ridiculous. If the evidence was there, historians would change their minds; just like they've done time and time and time again. Blaiming mainstream historians feels like an excuse, an evil boogeyman that explains why alternative theories aren't accepted. Rahter than the reality that the evidence simply isn't there.
@@pixelguy9922 He uses the sources of people recognised to be amongst the most close minded in their field, like Zahi. Also many geologist like Robert Schoch or Randall Carlson would totally disagree with you, and him, as actual geology disagrees with it. (Also let's point out on a geological level it's still up to discussion and being examined so why does this guy claims to know the truth when it's still up for discussion is beyond me, except maybe because internet fame) Also: It’s not the level of erosion that is indicative of only heavy rainfall erosion, but the type and signature of the erosion. The erosion is not circumstantial evidence like you imply. Something he seems to forget totally or actually ignore, maybe even on purpose. Also forgetting the sphinx was buried for most of its existence even through ancient Egypt. But that's okay. And he strawmans straight from the start, that's not good. I can tell you that because I've actually listened to Schoch for a few hours on a different platforms aswell as some of his lectures. Though still interesting. Different opinions I guess. But strawmaning the work and words of a geologist recognised world wide for his expertise is not a good start and good way to be actually heard and trusted. PS: what you say in your last paragraph is absolutely ridiculous and I can't take you seriously because of it: There's strange occurences and irregularities with some historical "facts" or subjects, and thus deserve to be examined with the expanded technology and knowledge we have now, not disregarded. That's how we discovered H.Floresiensis. The field of egyptology is known to be one of the most close minded in any kind of historical science in the world and refuses any form of theories, even when quite well funded, to even be considered. Egypt itself has a lot to do with it as they tend to form an opposition block to it and forbid access or study to the sites in question when someone with a different theories wants to do some analysis (well documented). And Zahi Hawass is recognised as one of the most close minded of them all, and quite of a not that enjoyable person when talking about it, at all, he even can be quite vile and try to destroy careers to prove his point (also well documented). A lack of obvious evidences doesn't mean a theory can't possibly be correct or even parts of it. Just look at paleonthology for an example. If we behaved like you imply we should in your last paragraph, science would still be at the level of ancient greece.
@@pixelguy9922 one if the issues with both scientists and historians looking at data concerning history is that they tend to think of climate, geography, and climatology as slow and typically static. Any new data is scoffed at. But that is the disadvantage if man's limited scope of analysis capability. Kind of like assuming that science and religion must be mutually exclusive. Man twnds to be his own worst enemy in the academic sense
@@greggreg385 I mean...no? New data is taken seriously, and academia changes it's mind all the time if the evidence is actually there. And it's a weird argument to make in this case in perticular considering that it is the fringe theorists who make the claim that the climate in Giza couldn't possibly have changed a lot in the last 12000 years (hence the Sphinx "must" be 12000 years old), whereas the "mainstream" scientists are the one who make the claim that the climate is more flexible than people think
I like the idea it could have been a natural structure that was “tweaked” by humans. We humans do that all the time, like a more dramatic example is the city of Petra’s building carved into the side of a mountain
@@mizomint4197 that is correct, but ultimately unrelated to what I said. Manda is a monster that appeared in Atragon in 1963 iirc, and showed up later in Destroy All Monsters and Final Wars
Given that Gobekli Tepe exists, I'm willing to believe early humans modified an already natural formation when it was still above water during the last Ice Age.
According to many Geologists, the issue of the weathering patterns of erosion in the Sphinx indicating that the structure is much older than what Egyptology currently accepts is not really “fringe science” at all. It’s perhaps “fringe” to Egyptologists…but not to many Geologists.
I haven’t started the video yet but I gotta say I love how elegantly click-baity this title is since, after all, anyone who understands plate tectonics would know there’s technically a lost continent beneath practically any landmass 😂
The problem with Yonaguni is that if it was a monument, it had to be a monument to a god of alcohol and construction because it looks like someone tried to make a ziggurat while blind drunk.
@@AfroMocha if we also add that theres a lot of earthquakes within japan (or near japan) theres a good chance lots of water has been forced against this structure, aside from floods or tsunamis.
Come on the whole sphinx thing wasn’t just argued by shock. pretty much the whole geological community backed him up, it was actually a giant argument between the geological community and the archaeological community, they never reached a consensus but if I where to bet on it I would trust the room full of geologist over the room archaeologists.... Considering our understanding of geology does not change very much whereas our understanding of archaeology changes over time considerably
Astranix 01 Lol I think you not know simple thing, they knew the age of the rock that is not the matter what they are talking about is the age of when S was made
Yeah, any person with secondary education who doesn’t look at the water erosion and conclude that the sphinx is older than the pyramids is being prideful. It’s obvious to anyone.
That’s exactly what I was thinking. The Yonaguni Monument is actually the lost city of R'lyeh where Cthulhu is currently slumbering. It’s about time someone wakes him up.
Yeah! It's not Pseudoscience, Prof. Schoch is simply willing to go out on a limb on even unconventional theories. Instead of dismissing the Submerged structure like his mundane peers, he wanted to believe such a lead showed promise, and was willing to investigate for falsifiability. If anything, we need more Scientists like him.
"is totally right" only idiot would not doubt even a little bit their own opinions. And also its all speculation and his speculation just simply sucks or thats what i speculate.
Before calling Schosh a pseudoscientist... as in 'haha, there's nothing older than the pyramids and they are 5000 years old', go read about Gobekli Tepe.
Yeah, I don't like calling someone a pseudoscientist, especially if they just say some things that aren't demonstrated to be correct and it doesn't mean everything he comes out with is false.
Nobody (who isn't ignorant) says "there's nothing older than the pyramids" because that's known to be false; the archaeological site of Skara Brae, for one, is known to be older. So what you have presented here is an obvious strawman. And so that is irrelevant to the question as to whether Schosh is a pseudoscientist or not. Try harder.
I can just imagine people in the future discovering disney land under the ocean and naming it as a secret magical city that we created, which i guess technically it is
8:50 I think it's worth pointing out that some sites, like Gobekli Templi, are dated to around 10,000 years ago, and that is accepted science, even if still confusing based on history of civilization as we know it. I think the idea of super developed world-spanning civilizations on long lost continents is, at best, a silly and wishful fantasy, but the fact remains, there is a lot of "pre-history" that we known nothing about, and some theories, even if outlandish, are possible (such as the sphinx being older than ancient egypt and later re-worked by the egyptians into their own thing).
I think of it this way. Everything we know about human history only goes back about 10,000 years at the absolute extremes, and even then, everything past about 5,000 years till then starts getting exponentially more foggy. Now consider that the oldest known remains of anatomically modern humans goes back at least 300,000 thousand years. When you look at how far humans have come during the last 10,000 years alone, coming from a stone age to space travel, electricity, global connectedness, nuclear weapons, the internet, etc. Is it really that far fetched that somewhere along that 300,000 year span of human existence that something similar to what we know now could have came and went? If everything in known history is only around 10,000 years old, then in a 300,000 year span, advanced human civilisations could have been built up and wiped back to a stone age without much of a trace a dozen times by now. Think about this. If it took 50,000 years for an advanced human civilisation to build themselves up since the dawn of mankind. Literally 5 times longer than we've had in known history, and that civilisation ruled earth for another 50,000 years before being wiped back to a stone age, that still leaves 190,000 years before our own known history begins. And 190,000 years for time to cover up any obvious trace of them.
I have the 3rd highest rated comment on this at the time 44k video, with 664 comments in total, this being #665 if someone doesn't comment while Im typi oh bugger
i think about this all the time. *earth's crust moves* its not too farfetched to believe that the land that use to be on top, is now somehow underneath us.
Schoch's theory is that the enclosure walls show definite signs of water/rainfall erosion - not the Sphinx itself. I think doubters have misinterpreted him over the decades.
You should read Hancock's books or listen to the podcast he did with Rogan. What he says makes a lot of sence, and it's not like he lying about stuff. There is clear evidence for his claims.
Anyone who does a podcast with Rogan can NEVER be taken seriously about any topic. No self-respecting scientist would ever appear, or even acknowledge, Joe Rogan.
According to classic antiquity writers (Plato ? Can’t remember), Atlantis was located in the Mediterranean Sea. Some theorize that minoenne civilization, in today Crete, that got put on its knees by the hellish explosion of the Santorini island and the following tsunamis (facts), could be the actual civilization and catastrophe behind the myth of Atlantis. This is disputed though.
Let's look at some facts as to why Mu hasn't much, if any credibility. Over 95% of the oceans floor bed has not been discovered, yet billions of dollars poured into space exploration. Why is that? What is it that "they" don't want people to discover? During the first and second world war, countries were testing nuclear weapons in the pacific region, so evidence would be scarce. Alot of the Polynesian mythologies have similar stories to those of Christianity and Greek mythology, and the elders have kept these stories long before the first British Voyagers arrived including the early missionaries. Maui is like their Jesus. Tagaloa was God. They even speak of a seven-headed serpent, similar to that of Hinduism and also Madusa, from Greek mythology. The Tatau( Original translation of the word Tattoo) is actually one of the first forms of written language. Hence the use of symbols for Words, and were also printed on tapa cloth or fine mats, which was the same material used to make sails for sail boats, prior to the arrival of the European voyagers. As for Mulandia, as I'd like to call it 😅, so as to say that before there were oceans (flood of Noah's Ark or melting of the Antarctic after the ice age, volcanic activity or whatever you choose to believe) the Ancient Polynesian countries were in fact connected in a physical sense as well. The Pyramid pulemelei in Savaii (Samoa) in biblical terms, the pyramid is not a symbol but a diagram, referring to the "chart of the ages" or "Gods Divine Plan", and the hierarchy of mankind. The top of the pyramid represents the "Most High". Thus giving evidence of a religion that could have existed long before the Abrahamic diety that lead to Christianity. Also the "foot of Moso" in Samoa and fiji, the bible mentioned that their were Giants on the earth called the Nephilims. Archeologist have also discovered over 200 Star mounds in Samoa. The word for King is Ali'i, and the word for Star is Li'i, so "A Star" meaning King. Star seeds or Extraterrestrial beings maybe? Thanks to the early missionaries, 99% of the pacific Islands are devoted Christians and alot of the ancient stories are being forgotten. And one last fact, Fiji means "dark person" , or "the burning one" because they reference them as being part of the Creation of Man. The burning one referring to the Volcanoes. That is all, thank you.
@@Saltydiddler Basically. They also came up with a great excuse to hate black people. Up until recently they claimed black people exist because Cain killed his brother and god made him black.. and he's still alive scaring bad children to this day.
Ex Mormon here. I mean no disrepect to a lot of Mormons. Soon after joining I started seeing problems. One problem is that it seems to be a harboring place for narcissicists who can ride the high seas like pirates (figuratively speaking) while getting their demonic behavior dismissed by blaming their victims. (Victims are accused of being non believers if they object to the treatment -plus- they are living proof they are ungrounded if they don't comply.) This has caused a lot of ppl to leave the church. Also the narrative is contradicted by DNA evidence & there is an insane cover up on treatment to blacks & they argue and shame ppl who want out of the church. They say the ones baptized into the church receive the gift of the Holy Ghost & if they leave the church they lose the gift of the Holy Ghost. In other words, they have the superiority of the power of the Holy Ghost & the rest of the world is screwed. Many ppl need psychotherapy in order to heal after leaving the LDS church. etc. etc.
@@geor349 The reason they had this problem against Blacks is because they were covert racists. Black men were not allowed into the Mormon church Brotherhood. They adhered to prejudice & multiple wives until they were hammered on for breaking the laws of the U.S. This is one of many reasons I left the church.
@@jordanhallmark1784 Whats most disturbing is Mouthy Buddhas channel has been banned...its terrible how many channels are now gone....because of Susan wojcicki. The biggests bi+(# ever born on this planet.
So if advanced monolithic building societies aren’t older then we think how does one explain Gobekli tepe or the buried pyramid in Indonesia that hasn’t been excavated yet? Both are advanced structures built 10000-20000 years ago
Archeologists can estimate how old things are based on where/how deep they are buried in the ground. For example we know there was some cataclysmic weather event during the younger dryas era not only from the mass extinctions of fossils left behind but by where they were left behind in the ground. We can also tell by the ash and charred soil and other remnants left in the soil that suggest extreme warming followed by cooling. All these factors were all in the same layers of our crust spread across America and Europe which gives us a confirming date. Next we know it is a pyramid because we have technology to show what is beneath the ground without digging it up. This includes ground penetrating radar and seismic tomography. For gobekli tepe we already know how old it is by carbon dating of the stone from the excavations that were done. Some suggest it may still be older because we have only excavated 2% of it and it is a big ass hill lol. Either way we need more archeologists to do work and more answers! Lol
It really depends on what you consider advanced. Even cavemen could've built pyramids if they wanted to. Those structures aren't unusual in the methods of construction (people probably could've made them without uniquely advanced technology for the time) so much as they're unusual because it's not believed permanent settlements existed at that time. But just because a population moves around doesn't mean they can't revisit an old site, or that these places wouldn't gain importance to them.
Ice age = Tons of ice.. Ice = Frozen water. If more water is frozen , then less is liquid. Therefore sea levels are lower. Imagine on world scale. Logical conclusion : Current shore lines aren't very old. Logical speculation: If people where building back then, there'd be a LOT of buildings underwater since humans usually build next to the ocean .
14,000 years ago there were people near the ocean in Canada making wooden tools and collecting charcoal. Who cares about a bunch of 10k-year-old rocks.
Before dismissing Hancock as a "pseudo" you might consider he predicted a cataclysmic event decades before the Younger-Dryas impact was even theorized let alone confirmed and his timeframe matches perfectly. It's something you might find interesting, even possibly worthy of its own video.
he believes fucking telekinesis had a role in creating the pyramids, he's a loon. he's well know for plagarism in the archeology community thats why he isnt liked
Graham Hancock has actually been proven right with a lot of his theories recently so im surprised how easily he was mocked in this video, very disappointing!
@John Barber he speculated thay they would find megalithic structures way older than egypt and many geologists mocked him and then gobekli tepe was discovered and found to be the oldest structure we know now. Also he was mocked ruthlessly for saying a meteor probably stuck earth around 12000-14000 years ago and caused catastrophic floods and climate change. Then a year after his most popular debate about it there was a crater found in greenland dating back 13000 years ago when most scientists said a meteor never struck around that time period because we wouldve already known it. His theories are based off of years and years of research on ancient civilizations and archeological finds. Graham has also said he is not a scientist and just an author and he has never claimed to be a geologist or archeologist.
@John Barber He doesn't need to provide a thesis in a youtube comments section. You have a brain, use it, go do your own research instead of expecting to be spoonfed.
After reading all of Mr Barber's responses im glad im late back to the conversation. He is obviously not prepared to listen or do some simple research as its all there in the open. Graham Hancock has actually had open apologies from many of the skeptics who had called him a pseudoscientist, including one of the most famous and scathing of all, Michael Shermer. I'm not wasting my time arguing as the others on this chat have already correctly pointed out what needs to be said.
@John Barber The black mat layer is highly documented and the evidence suggests a worldwide cosmic impact of some sort around 12,000 years ago. This is corroborated by simultaneous mass extinction of megaphauna, massive fluctuations in global temperature as seen in ice cores along with hundred foot rises in ocean level. The Greenland crater date hasn't been verified so we don't know if that is the cause of the cataclysm. However, this is one of the most studied events of the late Pleistocene, I'm surprised you haven't read any literature on it. And gobekli tepe, when it was discovered, had been buried throughout the millennia by whichever civilization(s) had used it. Organic matter was also buried and preserved at the same time allowing scientists to date the most superficial layers of the megalithic construction to at least 12,000BC. 'Apparently' agriculture, astronomy, mathematics (etc. all the staples of civilization) were all developed here, as we can see the activity of the people that used this site, however, archeology has yet to explain the process of evolution by which this culture learned and developed their skills.
I actually think Schoch and Hancock are on to something with their Ancient Sphinx theory. For one. The head of the Pharaoh is REALLY small compared to the lion body beneath. Secondly: the Sphinx was buried in sand until Napoleon, so the erosion on the Sphinx was likely not caused by long-term wind exposure. And third (more of a cool tidbit): The Sphinx faces the point in the sky where the spring equinox rises, and if the lion were built as a statue to Leo, that may imply that the equinox sun rose in the Leo constellation, implying it was built during the Age of Leo, putting it roughly 10,000 years back.
@@aaronstepien2363 No they don't. The Nazis weren't even in that part of Egypt. It was British controlled. The usual story was that Napoleonic troops did it. The French actually were in Egypt. But even that story is false - the nose was damaged.before that. A convincing story is that the face was originally a lion and later changed to a person's.
@@aaronstepien2363 Your Nazi rumour is just a garbled version of the Napoleonic one. Probably with Indiana Jones thrown in. A lot of black supremacists claim white people did this to hide the Sphinx's black features and did it to other Egyptian statues. The only problem is that if you go to Rome you can see plenty of obviously white statues with noses broken off. Even nineteenth century ones it happened with.
What if Mu is Australia+Zealandia? There's evidence the great monument builders of the stone age made their way from the middle east all the way to south America.
Giant's Causeway is not caused by lava eroding rock. If you've ever observed lava and how it forms rocks during eruptions it is always messy and chaotic, never like Giant's causeway.
It was caused by lava and studied for over a decade by Yan Lavalee a professor of volcanology at the university of Liverpool. There are simular geological simularities seen elsewhere in the world including Devils Postpile in the US. The legend in Ireland was Finn mccool formed the giants causeway after a scottish giant called Benandonner threatened Ireland and Fin McCool retaliated by tearing up chunks of the Antrim coastline and hurling them into the sea , it it also said a chunk of these rocks created the Isle of man . I live not far away from the Giants causeway and walked there many many times from childhood such a gorgeous wild place .
@@shinobi-no-bueno The fact that your best argument is to make fun of the name of a person, instead of actually addressing the issue at hand, is quite telling. This is well-established science that has been peer-reviewed and accepted. Lava can flow and cool differently under different circumstances and environments. On top of this, the cooled lava will not remain in the same condition forever. It will be subsequently changed by environmental factors, just like any other substance we find on earth. And, just like other substances, it will change differently depending on local factors. You claim that you know giant's causeway can't be caused by eroding lava, because you've observed how lava flows and cools during eruptions... have you witnessed all of the different ways this happens, in all different environments? Are you a credited geologist who has extensively studied not only the different ways lava flows and cools, and also the different ways it is affected over thousands of years by pressure, temperature, erosion, and other factors? If you were, you would have presented some actual data and evidence. You know, instead of making fun of a foreign name.
They havent been proved wrong either, and i definitely believe Robert Shoch's version of the weathering of the sphinx enclosure. It was NOT done by wind and Zahi Hawass is a massive liar!
You don't need rain. Because of the temperatur dropping in the night there is enough water building up. Hot Cold Hot Cold can destroy many things. But who knows
@@sokol7215 the sphinx is usually buried under sand and has had to be excavated a few times in it history. So it wouldn't be exposed to the air for that to be a factor.
I'm a huge fan of your videos but, I have to admit, when you called West, Hancock and Shock "fringe" and "pseudo" ... I lost some of the allure. Their research has more foundation than the majority of institutional archeology. Always remember, Galileo, Copernicus and even Einstein were considered "fringe" and "pseudo" scientists until their hypotheses were proven correct. Just because it contradicts or challenges the norms, doesn't make it "pseudo". There have been many incidents of established academics covering up findings that contradict their theories, solely on the basis of ego.
Plate tectonics were laughed at until others started looking into it and slowly it became accepted. Over reliance on academia and peer reviewed papers is how science dies.
i sort of get what you mean but "until their hypotheses were proven correct" do you not see the cognitive dissonance? think physics (my field of study) since you mentioned physicists: the whole point of science is to find truths about the world in order to make use of them in bettering our lives. people come up with ideas, try to prove them, and make their results public (and they remain public, on platforms like arxiv or others). then other people try to understand and replicate the results, in an open and free manner (that's peer reviewing), because if they're true and useful everybody wins. if the results can't be replicated by anyone, or furthermore if they contradict proven knowledge without supplying a substitute, they can't be true, they don't describe the world faithfully. what proving something means is supplying guided evidence that not only teaches your point but provides a means of testing it. all theories must be falsifiable. and until something's proven, by way of critical rationalism, it has to be doubted. that's what's healthy about the scientific method, rigorous testing and harsh criticism. obviously in good faith, but that is fortunately the norm, contrary to what some people who've never worked in or even studied science believe. you do get the rare psychopath but scientists have as much ethical responsibility as doctors, and they face consequences. you clearly can't just believe and sink resources into what everyone says, it has to make sense, there's no other way. and it works very well, if you take a look at your smartphone, that's hundreds of years of coherent scientific development right there, sometimes in crazy leaps. if that doesn't tell you how great science works i don't know what will. so when you say some people were considered "fringe" (which is not the same as "pseudo") and then they were proven right, well that's exactly what is supposed to happen. real discoveries don't get buried, they shine through sooner or later. it's true they may on occasion be at a disadvantage because of tradition and funding schemes and such, but they always get noticed and get traction if they appear true. i'd actually say scientists (alongside media) generally find crazy new ideas exciting rather than trying to bury them. and again, most of everything studied today is public. the problem with actual pseudoscience is that it either makes unfalsifiable claims (they can't be tested) or the claims get falsified. it's that simple, it just doesn't work. time and time again have theories that challenged the current understanding actually changed the worldview. they seemed weird at first (although bear in mind everyting is built upon existing knowledge in tiny steps) but they fit in and made true predictions, so then everybody started working on them and they developed immensely in a short time (like general relativity in the 10s or quantum mechanics in the 30s). there are real life frameworks that need to be shaken from time to time but the scientific paradigm overall is absolutely viable. on the contrary, pseudoscientists get their label because they keep saying things that are outright false, or nonsensical, or untestable. their stuff can't be "proven right". that's the work of ego and what say the bogdanoff twins, or chris langan, or hancock et co do. they write believable sci-fi at most. they speculate, and indeed may occasionaly be right (especially on very vague claims), but that's still not scientific research. it's true there are soft and hard science and anything having to do with history is on the soft side, but science is not made of wishy washy opinions. that's philosophy.
That would be the Ricard structure in Mauritania.. also known as the Eye of the Sahara. 10 000 years ago the sahara was green (that is a fact that is backed up by modern sience) and the big crater in Greenland that NASA discovered is in a channel that would direcly hit that place with a massive wave. This blast also created the frostwave that froze animals like mammoths (they sometimes find frozen once with gras in their mouth, so it did happen instandly...that is also a fact). After this impact the ice that melted created the steamcloud that pushed the frostwave after the north and the melting water started the so called "Meltwater Pulse 1a". The aborigines even talk about this in their "dream time" legends about the big flood "big bang... rained for days and where once was land it turnd to water". The problem is that nobody goes there to dig and the buildings that the locals build (even today) are indeed made out of the rocks that plato describes, but they are made out of stacked, small rocks because it's a somehow stoneage civ. Locals do find and sell "relics" like stonetools and weights that you would use for a fishing net and even seashells (that proves that this area was once connected to the ocean) but again... nobody goes there to do a dig, so it's just a area with A LOT of lose rocks. I mean you could dig and maybe find more relics... but i dont think that you would ever find any houses, because if you look and the buildings that the locals build (random rocks stacked to create a wall or house) you cant really prove or rebuild Atlantis
nope, the azores islands are where atlantis used to be, it is on the mid-atlantic ridge that fluctuated during the start of the younger dryas cataclysm 12800 years ago. The ricard structure is a 100x larger then plato said it is.
There's very good evidence that that's in north west africa, it wasn't a continent, that bit has always been a massive exhaggeration, but a city state and the surrounding area that was linked to the atlantic, through a now dried up river system. Lat/Long N 21.07.20 W 11.23.60. The dimensions of it match the accounts of atlantis, it's position and the surrounding mountains and rivers also match, even the names of the mountains and region fit, eg the Atlas mountains to the north east.
@@ericmoore7413 I think they were referring about temples carved into humongous monoliths like Ellora and Ajanta caves in India. Temples in the Americas were built with blocks of stones. Nothing to do about races.
@@ericmoore7413 white people probably did invent the most advanced civilisation but not the earliest. plus white people are black people with a evolutionary trait that reduces skin pigmentation since its not needed where we live.
@@budele09 White people are supposedly only a few thousand years old but Neanderthals coincidentally had big noses, blue eyes, red hair and white skins and lived in the same regions. Just a coincidence, we're told. Different genes.
Hancock is a fraud. He lacks proper education in the fields he claims he's an expert of and that should fucking be enough for your tiny mind to understand who you're dealing with. A fraud.
@@deaconstjohn4842 who gave credentials to the first scholars? Secondarily if you believe that a slip of paper is the difference between a fraud and a legitimate person you're not just wrong you're stupid.
Love your work, respectfully disagree with calling a geologists assesment of water erosion marks on the Sphinx a frindge theory though given the agreement of geologists on the matter, that one is hard to discard even for me at least - the egypt monuments are weird, just very weird. Shouldnt be there 🤷🏼♂️
@John Barber „The study was presented at the International Conference of Geoarchaeology and Archaeomineralogy held in Sofia titled: GEOLOGICAL ASPECT OF THE PROBLEM OF DATING THE GREAT EGYPTIAN SPHINX CONSTRUCTION“ mgu.bg/geoarchmin/naterials/64Manichev.pdf
Geology are fraudulent fields and so is this channel. This guy uses more forms of fallacy and just straight up lies than a cheating wife. Lands rise and fall all the time, common knowledge. Unthoughty should also study the genome and its haplotypes, especially the recent findings.
@@Eblis840 I had heard that too but never saw it substantiated plus the computer mapping of the Sphinx face as it is now shows perfect symetry. PERFECT symetry, as in, you can digitally map only one side, invert it using manufacturing software and lay it onto the other side and they check out perfectly symetric. Impossible to be done by hand. It stays a connundrum because, even say we allow for the possibility that something else caused the errosion marks that are the bases of the controversy and take the currently official timeline - it shouldnt be there. We didnt have computer operated machines that could produce such a perfect symetry until 1000s of years later. Baffeling for the engineers that mapped it to say the least. Weird, the whole thing is just very weird 🤷🏼♂️ ua-cam.com/video/2fS9ixfQ_no/v-deo.html
I've been a fan of Graham's for over 20 years. He wasn't dissed. It was a fair representation of who and what Graham is. He's an interesting person that you should take with a large pinch of salt. Gobekli Tepe did make him look more right than wrong though.
Glad to see JR's podcasts with GH and JAW are reaching a lot of people! It was easy to rip on the "pseudo's" before JR but JR's podcasts are maiking people think and question the established theories for once! Good on ya JR
4:10 There's a single lone letter that looks like a middle finger, I can't tell if it's legit or a joke since there's only one and it's right in the middle
8:22 bro there's a temple in turkey called Göbekli Tepe that is officially dated to 13,000 year old with advanced masonry. Look it up humans civilisation goes back long...
You should look into the research of Graham Hancock, as it fits with this video very well. Specifically, his work on the younger dryas theory and the destruction of ancient civilizations around 10000-13000 B.C. It's worth a video, that's for sure.
Although this one is most likely a natural formation, there have been lots of examples of of early lost civilizations or 'Proto-civilizations' that were around 8,000-12,000 years ago. Societies and early technologies are likely twice as old as Egypt and Mesopotamia, but writing and records didn't show up until they appeared on the scene.
We as our current species have been around for a few million years. So we've been this cognitive the whole time. We weren't dumb back then. Makes you think what they were up to.
@@Cole99v Actually, if we go off the fossil record, modern humans didn't appear on the scene until 200,000 years ago and our population size and migration didn't start becoming significant until the last 50,000 years... minus those 2-3 ice age cycles since then that tried to kill us.
I'm very happy someone mentioned northern Ireland in one of their videos because like no one ever mentions a random part of the uk that is small and shares a border with Ireland
@@sunnyjim1355 that make you feel good? She commented something generic that no one really cared about, so you did the same, but to be a dick? Stunning and brave
Hello there, i really appreciate your work, learned so much about everything, so different from main stream and what people learn in Schools. Keep up the good work. Greetings.
Gram Hancock seems to have good explanations for his claims if you actually listen to what he says. I don’t think it’s fair to try to discredit him without explaining what about his methods are misleading or false.
It's also not fair to judge someone on their previous work, look at the current work for it's merits, as Graham is definitely right but he did say some wrong stuff before
@@db-hj9cu Go check out a Joe Rogan Podcast with Graham Hancock, he's a cool dude done thousands of hours diving and researching ancient structures and cool shit like that
2:36 the thing is, if such a continent existed during the thawing ice sheets of the most recent ice age, the rapidly refilling oceans may have submerged it. Anyone here familiar with ocean floor maps able to confirm or deny a submerged continental shelf-like seafloor formation?
"you know that feeling when all you want to do is dive into the dark forbidding ocean in the middle off an island in the middle of nowhere and look for sharks?" yes. yes I do
@@andreassofocleous8497 The "evidence" is mostly based on two assumptions: 1. The erosion of the sphinx could only have formed by heavy rain fall 2. The area hasn't been wet enough for 12000 years Their claims only look compelling because most people listening to their arguments accept these two assumptions as facts. And within that context, they absolutely do have a compelling case. But it's a manipulative narrative; because both of those claims have been proven to be false (which most people believing in the alternative sphinx theory doesn't seem to know). We know those patterns could have developed in other ways; and we also know that the area was much wetter 5000 years ago than today. Every single claim made by the 12000-year-old-sphinx believers have been debunked using actual science and evidence. The problem is that very few people actually seek out that type of information because believing in extraordinary theories is more fun. But the thing is; a 12000 year old sphinx would esentially create 10 new, much harder questions in the pursue of answering one. I recommend this video for example: ua-cam.com/video/lK2JM_nlkbM/v-deo.html
@@andreassofocleous8497 I’ve seen it, and read his books. I get frustrated with Hancock because he always start off with an hypothesis, and then tries to back it up with speculation rather than hard evidence (hence why I think he’s a pseudo intellectual, he doesn’t actually use a scientific method). He’ll point at a few images and claim that his hypothesis is basically self evident. Or he’ll jump to conclusions using extremely thin data; like saying that an engraving of a circle on a piece of stone in Göbekli Tepe MUST be a comet! It’s obvious! Even though it could just as well be the sun, or a ball, or anything. And the worst part is that he manipulates the narrative in a way that makes his version seem more likely, instead of simply observing all the evidence and reaching a conclusion based on that. You’d never hear him adress the contemporary written records placing the construction of the pyramids at 2500 BCE; but he won’t shut up about how the stars in the night sky obviously dates the pyramids to be 12000 years old. Basically choosing speculative argumentation over written and physical records. Also, he really has the biggest victim complex in the world. In many chapters of his books, he almost spends more time bitching about how his critics doesn’t take his hypotheses seriously than he does actually proving his hypotheses.
one minor point. sand and mud stone fracture in flat *horizontal* planes, (unless they've been upheaved by land movement such as tectonic plate action below them)...but it's always a single plane, not right angles.
8:47 Not quite true. For example Gobeki Tepe actually represents quite advanced megalithic civilization dated 9000 years bc and this is scientific fact. It is highly unprobeable that this was the only one place on earth of advanced civilization for the next 6000 years.
Love learning about this stuff makes me wonder what other things that aren’t on the map anymore that we don’t know about we really need to look at the ocean more and do a good research u never know what you may find
This man is so good at monologues that I watched a whole video about a goddamn rock
Agreed😂
You're not alone 🤣
good writing for sure. i was thinking the same thing on this video wondering if he has people help with research and writing, so many videos i can't imagine the time it takes
A rock... no ya dope it’s proof of advanced civilization 10,000 years ago.. that changes history.. a rock...🤦🏻♂️
You know, pioneers used to ride them for miles
This man is slowly becoming a world war 1 British officer
It’s always been lurking beneath the surface 😂
We'll know for sure when he finally takes a break for tea instead of showing an ad.
*his mustache is already a ww1 general, the rest of his body is just try'na catch up*
I'm ☠️😂😂😂😂😂
Uhhhhh he definitely an Australian hipster. The accent is clear as day lol
They used to think the city of troy was a myth and ridiculed the ppl who believed in it soooo im honestly open to all mythical cities having some basis in fact
@@FingerSpazm sorry but yes it started being unearthed in the midnineteenth and its been agreed by acheologists for a while that its troy. Maybe youre thinking of the Trojan war because i think theres still a lot of speculation about that being a myth.
Well, Troy city was documented, so it's not the same
Sure, but this isn’t mythological, this is “Hey I found some square rocks, I can call it a city and get famous”. There’s no evidence it’s actually anything.
@@FingerSpazm n no
How about the Atlantis that sunk under water?
Actually I think there was a recent paper that was published that concluded the erosion in the Spinx Closure was indeed caused by heavy rainfall and water erosion. And would make it at least 6,000 to 7,000 years older.
How dare you question the world view of our great grandfathers. White people invented absolutely Everything. My idiot great grampa told me so. Never question authority.
@@ericmoore7413 I don't even know if this a troll since you used the race card.
@@ericmoore7413 what white person believe they made the sphinx?
@@ericmoore7413 Are Egyptians considered white by your idiot great grampa?
@@CrimTube
It's obviously sarcastic.
I actually buy into the Sphinx being several thousand years older than typically given dates. Many, many, many scientists have said that the erosion on the statue looks like water erosion. It bugs me to death that people like Zahi Ewas claim to know everything about a lost society and anything that disputes what they say is brought forth, then it must be BS.
The alternative sphinx theory is based on the assumption that the erosion patterns only could've occured from heavy rain fall; which is false. It most likely occurs from morning dew being sucked into the porous limestone, which dissolves salt crystals in the rock, which then puts pressure on the outer layer of stone when the dew evaporates, causing it to flake off. The wavey patterns are simply the product of different layers off limestone flaking differently due to different levels of salt and pores.
We also know for a fact, both from written records and archaeological evidence, that the pyramids and surrounding complex were constructed around 2500 BCE. Sure, the sphinx could hypothetically already have been there with the pyramid complex constructed around it. But that still wouldn't explain the fact that the edge of the central pathway leading up to the middle pyramid (which was clearly constructed as part of the pyramid complex in 2500 BCE) has the same erosion pattern.
I highly recommend this video: ua-cam.com/video/lK2JM_nlkbM/v-deo.html
(which has actual sources listed, whereas most fringe theorists mostly work off of circumstantial speculation)
Mainstream historians don't automatically disregard alternative theories just because it disagrees with previous established consensus; they disregard them because they lack actual hard evidence. Mainstream history changes and adapts all the time, as long as there's evidence. Individuals have very little power in terms of historical consensus, so the idea that someone like Zahi Hawass single handedly has kept the consensus static for decades is ridiculous. If the evidence was there, historians would change their minds; just like they've done time and time and time again. Blaiming mainstream historians feels like an excuse, an evil boogeyman that explains why alternative theories aren't accepted. Rahter than the reality that the evidence simply isn't there.
@@pixelguy9922 nice job at explaining👌
@@pixelguy9922 He uses the sources of people recognised to be amongst the most close minded in their field, like Zahi. Also many geologist like Robert Schoch or Randall Carlson would totally disagree with you, and him, as actual geology disagrees with it. (Also let's point out on a geological level it's still up to discussion and being examined so why does this guy claims to know the truth when it's still up for discussion is beyond me, except maybe because internet fame)
Also: It’s not the level of erosion that is indicative of only heavy rainfall erosion, but the type and signature of the erosion. The erosion is not circumstantial evidence like you imply. Something he seems to forget totally or actually ignore, maybe even on purpose.
Also forgetting the sphinx was buried for most of its existence even through ancient Egypt. But that's okay.
And he strawmans straight from the start, that's not good. I can tell you that because I've actually listened to Schoch for a few hours on a different platforms aswell as some of his lectures.
Though still interesting.
Different opinions I guess. But strawmaning the work and words of a geologist recognised world wide for his expertise is not a good start and good way to be actually heard and trusted.
PS: what you say in your last paragraph is absolutely ridiculous and I can't take you seriously because of it: There's strange occurences and irregularities with some historical "facts" or subjects, and thus deserve to be examined with the expanded technology and knowledge we have now, not disregarded. That's how we discovered H.Floresiensis. The field of egyptology is known to be one of the most close minded in any kind of historical science in the world and refuses any form of theories, even when quite well funded, to even be considered. Egypt itself has a lot to do with it as they tend to form an opposition block to it and forbid access or study to the sites in question when someone with a different theories wants to do some analysis (well documented). And Zahi Hawass is recognised as one of the most close minded of them all, and quite of a not that enjoyable person when talking about it, at all, he even can be quite vile and try to destroy careers to prove his point (also well documented).
A lack of obvious evidences doesn't mean a theory can't possibly be correct or even parts of it. Just look at paleonthology for an example.
If we behaved like you imply we should in your last paragraph, science would still be at the level of ancient greece.
@@pixelguy9922 one if the issues with both scientists and historians looking at data concerning history is that they tend to think of climate, geography, and climatology as slow and typically static. Any new data is scoffed at. But that is the disadvantage if man's limited scope of analysis capability. Kind of like assuming that science and religion must be mutually exclusive. Man twnds to be his own worst enemy in the academic sense
@@greggreg385 I mean...no? New data is taken seriously, and academia changes it's mind all the time if the evidence is actually there. And it's a weird argument to make in this case in perticular considering that it is the fringe theorists who make the claim that the climate in Giza couldn't possibly have changed a lot in the last 12000 years (hence the Sphinx "must" be 12000 years old), whereas the "mainstream" scientists are the one who make the claim that the climate is more flexible than people think
I like the idea it could have been a natural structure that was “tweaked” by humans. We humans do that all the time, like a more dramatic example is the city of Petra’s building carved into the side of a mountain
This is exactly how the whole world should be we should live one with nature
And that theory also aligns with one of the core aspects of Japanese culture. Enhancing what is already there in the least damaging way possible
M
@@slimemove768 but how would we advance?
or mount Rushmore
Everyone knows Mu is where Godzilla lives unless he's attacking Japan.
Common knowledge, ask any lawyer
Mu is actually a real place in the Godzilla movies, at least the ones from the 60s. They have a guardian monster named Manda
@@Edzilla Godzillas origin is based on the nuclear testing in Bikini Atoll by the United States of the first thermonuclear warhead...
@@mizomint4197 that is correct, but ultimately unrelated to what I said. Manda is a monster that appeared in Atragon in 1963 iirc, and showed up later in Destroy All Monsters and Final Wars
@@Edzilla hmm idk. Haven't watched original Godzilla in over 20 years. Lol
Given that Gobekli Tepe exists, I'm willing to believe early humans modified an already natural formation when it was still above water during the last Ice Age.
Preach it!
*Graham Hancock has entered the conversation
Hahahaha trust
Where is the evidence of that though? 🤔
yeah sound pretty likely
According to many Geologists, the issue of the weathering patterns of erosion in the Sphinx indicating that the structure is much older than what Egyptology currently accepts is not really “fringe science” at all. It’s perhaps “fringe” to Egyptologists…but not to many Geologists.
This has already been debunked, it was cause of morning dew, not rain
@@zachsuarez1830 Wrong. Post source.
You are confusing many geologists with most geologists
@@zachsuarez1830 Few Geologist will know the difference between rainwater erosion and dew.
I gotta say, I’m really into this type of stuff. Geology, ancient Human cultures, Earths history, evolution, etc
All interesting stuff.
Same here.... mainly cuz I'm an aspiring writer and I use these for ideas for world building
@@kairou_mikael do intense research to further develop your stories
@@deewaddell5833 ^^^
Yes I took a art class in college once for a credit and ended up very interested I just don’t know where to start
@@kairou_mikael yessssss im not alone
I haven’t started the video yet but I gotta say I love how elegantly click-baity this title is since, after all, anyone who understands plate tectonics would know there’s technically a lost continent beneath practically any landmass 😂
ah yes the comment i was looking for.
@@allthingsgaming8377 lmao 😂 chill
Good for you
@@allthingsgaming8377 It's basic elementary knowledge. If you can't even understand that, then I pity for what you may struggle in the future.
The problem with Yonaguni is that if it was a monument, it had to be a monument to a god of alcohol and construction because it looks like someone tried to make a ziggurat while blind drunk.
If the 7 meteor theory is correct ( Graham Hancocks) then we could be seeing the broken remains after floods and debris smashing and swirling
That being said I think if anything this was a quarry of some sort not a building
Regardless of intended purpose, it's more like they were wanting to make as much use of natural formations as possible. At least that's my impression
@@AfroMocha if we also add that theres a lot of earthquakes within japan (or near japan) theres a good chance lots of water has been forced against this structure, aside from floods or tsunamis.
@@gh05tb0yz agreed I mean at minimum we are looking at 10,000+ years at most maybe 30,000+ so a lot can happen
Come on the whole sphinx thing wasn’t just argued by shock. pretty much the whole geological community backed him up, it was actually a giant argument between the geological community and the archaeological community, they never reached a consensus but if I where to bet on it I would trust the room full of geologist over the room archaeologists.... Considering our understanding of geology does not change very much whereas our understanding of archaeology changes over time considerably
Have they considered that the rock used in the Sphinx was old in the first place?
@@astranix0198 all rocks are old lol
@@astranix0198 but seriously if you look at what there talking about it will make more sense
Astranix 01 Lol I think you not know simple thing, they knew the age of the rock that is not the matter what they are talking about is the age of when S was made
Yeah, any person with secondary education who doesn’t look at the water erosion and conclude that the sphinx is older than the pyramids is being prideful. It’s obvious to anyone.
I, for one, would like to welcome Cthulu back from his slumber.
According to this video, Ryleha is southern Mu
It's only February, 2021. Be patient.
What if Cthulu died from a mutated corona virus?
Go home.
That’s exactly what I was thinking. The Yonaguni Monument is actually the lost city of
R'lyeh where Cthulhu is currently slumbering. It’s about time someone wakes him up.
They’re gonna be REALLY disappointed when they go to Sunderland
Schoch is totally right about the Sphinx though. He's a great scientist you should check out more of his stuff.
Yeah! It's not Pseudoscience, Prof. Schoch is simply willing to go out on a limb on even unconventional theories.
Instead of dismissing the Submerged structure like his mundane peers, he wanted to believe such a lead showed promise, and was willing to investigate for falsifiability.
If anything, we need more Scientists like him.
Theres heaps more evidence go check out " unchartered x " youtube channell
"is totally right" only idiot would not doubt even a little bit their own opinions. And also its all speculation and his speculation just simply sucks or thats what i speculate.
@@kaspiansoinio2881 it's called a joke, ya heard of it?
Probably the monotone voice
Before calling Schosh a pseudoscientist... as in 'haha, there's nothing older than the pyramids and they are 5000 years old', go read about Gobekli Tepe.
Yeah, I don't like calling someone a pseudoscientist, especially if they just say some things that aren't demonstrated to be correct and it doesn't mean everything he comes out with is false.
“You don’t even know about Goblekli Tepe” - Joe Rogan
Nobody (who isn't ignorant) says "there's nothing older than the pyramids" because that's known to be false; the archaeological site of Skara Brae, for one, is known to be older. So what you have presented here is an obvious strawman. And so that is irrelevant to the question as to whether Schosh is a pseudoscientist or not.
Try harder.
I believe more Robert Schoch than this mustache boy
@@tonybravo8458 "This mustache boy"!? Are you new here?
I can just imagine people in the future discovering disney land under the ocean and naming it as a secret magical city that we created, which i guess technically it is
They will think Mickey Mouse was a God/cult leader ppl worshipped
Underwater, Disneyland would be mostly completely gone in one hundred years.
I wonder how many children they'd find
8:50
I think it's worth pointing out that some sites, like Gobekli Templi, are dated to around 10,000 years ago, and that is accepted science, even if still confusing based on history of civilization as we know it.
I think the idea of super developed world-spanning civilizations on long lost continents is, at best, a silly and wishful fantasy, but the fact remains, there is a lot of "pre-history" that we known nothing about, and some theories, even if outlandish, are possible (such as the sphinx being older than ancient egypt and later re-worked by the egyptians into their own thing).
I think of it this way. Everything we know about human history only goes back about 10,000 years at the absolute extremes, and even then, everything past about 5,000 years till then starts getting exponentially more foggy.
Now consider that the oldest known remains of anatomically modern humans goes back at least 300,000 thousand years. When you look at how far humans have come during the last 10,000 years alone, coming from a stone age to space travel, electricity, global connectedness, nuclear weapons, the internet, etc. Is it really that far fetched that somewhere along that 300,000 year span of human existence that something similar to what we know now could have came and went?
If everything in known history is only around 10,000 years old, then in a 300,000 year span, advanced human civilisations could have been built up and wiped back to a stone age without much of a trace a dozen times by now.
Think about this. If it took 50,000 years for an advanced human civilisation to build themselves up since the dawn of mankind. Literally 5 times longer than we've had in known history, and that civilisation ruled earth for another 50,000 years before being wiped back to a stone age, that still leaves 190,000 years before our own known history begins. And 190,000 years for time to cover up any obvious trace of them.
The lost city of Japantlis
Japanada
The lost island of Jo Mama.
@@ericmoore7413 Angie Daddy
I have the 3rd highest rated comment on this at the time 44k video, with 664 comments in total, this being #665 if someone doesn't comment while Im typi oh bugger
Japantarctica....
i think about this all the time. *earth's crust moves*
its not too farfetched to believe that the land that use to be on top, is now somehow underneath us.
I wouldnt say the sphinx enclosure erosion theory is "fringe"...
Schoch's theory is that the enclosure walls show definite signs of water/rainfall erosion - not the Sphinx itself. I think doubters have misinterpreted him over the decades.
@@margaretgrace713 Yes, I know it was the enclosure. I'll edit my post. Thanks!
It ain't a fringe theory. It is called Science.
@@ericmoore7413 No, archaeology isn't called science by people whose world view it doesn't agree with.
@@MountainFisher Schoch practices geology not archeology.
You should read Hancock's books or listen to the podcast he did with Rogan. What he says makes a lot of sence, and it's not like he lying about stuff. There is clear evidence for his claims.
Yea Grahams definitely not a bad actor. He has evidence to backup his claims
i stopped watching and looked at comments ( quite easily found) defending hancock lol
wait he did a podcast with Rogan?!
@@crazysilly2914 two even
Anyone who does a podcast with Rogan can NEVER be taken seriously about any topic. No self-respecting scientist would ever appear, or even acknowledge, Joe Rogan.
According to classic antiquity writers (Plato ? Can’t remember), Atlantis was located in the Mediterranean Sea. Some theorize that minoenne civilization, in today Crete, that got put on its knees by the hellish explosion of the Santorini island and the following tsunamis (facts), could be the actual civilization and catastrophe behind the myth of Atlantis. This is disputed though.
Bad enough when you lose your phone, imagine how gutted you'd be if you lost an entire continent.
It could of had sum unidenfied creatures maybe 👀
Obi-Wan Kenobi once lost a planet.
@@D4RKSNIFFLES. Meh! I'd get over it!😁
@@rhuttrho88 cool
Let's look at some facts as to why Mu hasn't much, if any credibility. Over 95% of the oceans floor bed has not been discovered, yet billions of dollars poured into space exploration. Why is that? What is it that "they" don't want people to discover? During the first and second world war, countries were testing nuclear weapons in the pacific region, so evidence would be scarce. Alot of the Polynesian mythologies have similar stories to those of Christianity and Greek mythology, and the elders have kept these stories long before the first British Voyagers arrived including the early missionaries. Maui is like their Jesus. Tagaloa was God. They even speak of a seven-headed serpent, similar to that of Hinduism and also Madusa, from Greek mythology. The Tatau( Original translation of the word Tattoo) is actually one of the first forms of written language. Hence the use of symbols for Words, and were also printed on tapa cloth or fine mats, which was the same material used to make sails for sail boats, prior to the arrival of the European voyagers. As for Mulandia, as I'd like to call it 😅, so as to say that before there were oceans (flood of Noah's Ark or melting of the Antarctic after the ice age, volcanic activity or whatever you choose to believe) the Ancient Polynesian countries were in fact connected in a physical sense as well. The Pyramid pulemelei in Savaii (Samoa) in biblical terms, the pyramid is not a symbol but a diagram, referring to the "chart of the ages" or "Gods Divine Plan", and the hierarchy of mankind. The top of the pyramid represents the "Most High". Thus giving evidence of a religion that could have existed long before the Abrahamic diety that lead to Christianity. Also the "foot of Moso" in Samoa and fiji, the bible mentioned that their were Giants on the earth called the Nephilims. Archeologist have also discovered over 200 Star mounds in Samoa. The word for King is Ali'i, and the word for Star is Li'i, so "A Star" meaning King. Star seeds or Extraterrestrial beings maybe? Thanks to the early missionaries, 99% of the pacific Islands are devoted Christians and alot of the ancient stories are being forgotten. And one last fact, Fiji means "dark person" , or "the burning one" because they reference them as being part of the Creation of Man. The burning one referring to the Volcanoes. That is all, thank you.
Ancient text on tablets that only the guy who found them had seen? Is that the story of Mormons in the US? lol.
@@Saltydiddler Basically. They also came up with a great excuse to hate black people. Up until recently they claimed black people exist because Cain killed his brother and god made him black.. and he's still alive scaring bad children to this day.
@@gmork1090 wtf i didnt know that.
Why though?
Ex Mormon here. I mean no disrepect to a lot of Mormons. Soon after joining I started seeing problems. One problem is that it seems to be a harboring place for narcissicists who can ride the high seas like pirates (figuratively speaking) while getting their demonic behavior dismissed by blaming their victims. (Victims are accused of being non believers if they object to the treatment -plus- they are living proof they are ungrounded if they don't comply.) This has caused a lot of ppl to leave the church. Also the narrative is contradicted by DNA evidence & there is an insane cover up on treatment to blacks & they argue and shame ppl who want out of the church. They say the ones baptized into the church receive the gift of the Holy Ghost & if they leave the church they lose the gift of the Holy Ghost. In other words, they have the superiority of the power of the Holy Ghost & the rest of the world is screwed. Many ppl need psychotherapy in order to heal after leaving the LDS church. etc. etc.
@@geor349 The reason they had this problem against Blacks is because they were covert racists. Black men were not allowed into the Mormon church Brotherhood. They adhered to prejudice & multiple wives until they were hammered on for breaking the laws of the U.S. This is one of many reasons I left the church.
This made me smile...thanks
"A whole MU level" absolutely killed me 😂😂
Randall Carlson is a proponent and contemporary of Hancock and West's. He has lots of degrees and taught geology.
Carlson is a treasure
Exactly I didn’t like his comments on graham if anyone had seen hi interviews on jre he isn’t just making stuff up
@@jordanhallmark1784 Whats most disturbing is Mouthy Buddhas channel has been banned...its terrible how many channels are now gone....because of Susan wojcicki. The biggests bi+(# ever born on this planet.
We don’t really know anything when it comes to ancient history. New evidence of much older civilizations keeps popping up..
“Is there a lost continent under Japan”, just in case he changes it
So if advanced monolithic building societies aren’t older then we think how does one explain Gobekli tepe or the buried pyramid in Indonesia that hasn’t been excavated yet? Both are advanced structures built 10000-20000 years ago
If it hasn't been excavated then how does one know that a, it's even there and b, that it's a pyramid.
Archeologists can estimate how old things are based on where/how deep they are buried in the ground.
For example we know there was some cataclysmic weather event during the younger dryas era not only from the mass extinctions of fossils left behind but by where they were left behind in the ground. We can also tell by the ash and charred soil and other remnants left in the soil that suggest extreme warming followed by cooling. All these factors were all in the same layers of our crust spread across America and Europe which gives us a confirming date.
Next we know it is a pyramid because we have technology to show what is beneath the ground without digging it up. This includes ground penetrating radar and seismic tomography.
For gobekli tepe we already know how old it is by carbon dating of the stone from the excavations that were done. Some suggest it may still be older because we have only excavated 2% of it and it is a big ass hill lol.
Either way we need more archeologists to do work and more answers! Lol
I'm not saying it was aliens...
But...
@@kyledutka4550 that’s the same situation the Meso-American pyramids in central Mexico were found under so many miles of earth.
It really depends on what you consider advanced. Even cavemen could've built pyramids if they wanted to. Those structures aren't unusual in the methods of construction (people probably could've made them without uniquely advanced technology for the time) so much as they're unusual because it's not believed permanent settlements existed at that time. But just because a population moves around doesn't mean they can't revisit an old site, or that these places wouldn't gain importance to them.
3:57 What i like about the "whole mu level" joke is that the sound effect of the unsatisfied crowd was yelling "muuuuu" instead of "oooooooooo"
1:37 I don’t think those draining channels worked too well...
Ice age = Tons of ice..
Ice = Frozen water.
If more water is frozen , then less is liquid.
Therefore sea levels are lower.
Imagine on world scale.
Logical conclusion : Current shore lines aren't very old.
Logical speculation: If people where building back then, there'd be a LOT of buildings underwater since humans usually build next to the ocean .
Spot on. There are plenty of lost cities or civilisations that lie under the sea.
If you are suggesting that non white people could build a wall and a town, i say Good Day To You Sir. Preposterous !
Conclusion:
Pee is stored in the balls.
over 12k years ago the glacier on north america was up to miles thick, according to somebody. that's a lot of water
14,000 years ago there were people near the ocean in Canada making wooden tools and collecting charcoal. Who cares about a bunch of 10k-year-old rocks.
Before dismissing Hancock as a "pseudo" you might consider he predicted a cataclysmic event decades before the Younger-Dryas impact was even theorized let alone confirmed and his timeframe matches perfectly. It's something you might find interesting, even possibly worthy of its own video.
he believes fucking telekinesis had a role in creating the pyramids, he's a loon. he's well know for plagarism in the archeology community thats why he isnt liked
@@alexcollins7741 Could you please give reference to Hancock's telekinesis theory?
@@alexcollins7741 🤣 that's everyone's bs rebuttal as to why his research shouldn't be taken seriously.... 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
@@8RuTu5 Ah, yes. Because as everyone knows, if someone is wrong about one thing it automatically means they are also wrong about everything else too.
@@JC_WT the u.s. government found it compelling enough to investigate it and spend money researching it.
Underwater archeology is such a future frontier. can't wait to see what they can do to figure and excavate these areas.
Graham Hancock has actually been proven right with a lot of his theories recently so im surprised how easily he was mocked in this video, very disappointing!
@John Barber he speculated thay they would find megalithic structures way older than egypt and many geologists mocked him and then gobekli tepe was discovered and found to be the oldest structure we know now. Also he was mocked ruthlessly for saying a meteor probably stuck earth around 12000-14000 years ago and caused catastrophic floods and climate change. Then a year after his most popular debate about it there was a crater found in greenland dating back 13000 years ago when most scientists said a meteor never struck around that time period because we wouldve already known it. His theories are based off of years and years of research on ancient civilizations and archeological finds. Graham has also said he is not a scientist and just an author and he has never claimed to be a geologist or archeologist.
@John Barber google Gibekli Tepe and meteor discovery in Greenland. Jesus fucking Christ, it’s not that difficult.
@John Barber He doesn't need to provide a thesis in a youtube comments section. You have a brain, use it, go do your own research instead of expecting to be spoonfed.
After reading all of Mr Barber's responses im glad im late back to the conversation. He is obviously not prepared to listen or do some simple research as its all there in the open. Graham Hancock has actually had open apologies from many of the skeptics who had called him a pseudoscientist, including one of the most famous and scathing of all, Michael Shermer. I'm not wasting my time arguing as the others on this chat have already correctly pointed out what needs to be said.
@John Barber The black mat layer is highly documented and the evidence suggests a worldwide cosmic impact of some sort around 12,000 years ago. This is corroborated by simultaneous mass extinction of megaphauna, massive fluctuations in global temperature as seen in ice cores along with hundred foot rises in ocean level. The Greenland crater date hasn't been verified so we don't know if that is the cause of the cataclysm. However, this is one of the most studied events of the late Pleistocene, I'm surprised you haven't read any literature on it.
And gobekli tepe, when it was discovered, had been buried throughout the millennia by whichever civilization(s) had used it. Organic matter was also buried and preserved at the same time allowing scientists to date the most superficial layers of the megalithic construction to at least 12,000BC. 'Apparently' agriculture, astronomy, mathematics (etc. all the staples of civilization) were all developed here, as we can see the activity of the people that used this site, however, archeology has yet to explain the process of evolution by which this culture learned and developed their skills.
I actually think Schoch and Hancock are on to something with their Ancient Sphinx theory.
For one. The head of the Pharaoh is REALLY small compared to the lion body beneath.
Secondly: the Sphinx was buried in sand until Napoleon, so the erosion on the Sphinx was likely not caused by long-term wind exposure.
And third (more of a cool tidbit): The Sphinx faces the point in the sky where the spring equinox rises, and if the lion were built as a statue to Leo, that may imply that the equinox sun rose in the Leo constellation, implying it was built during the Age of Leo, putting it roughly 10,000 years back.
Him - "the largest recorded tsunami"
Me - "but wasn't there that one in Alassssskaaaa?"
if you look at the Sphinx, you can see the head was widdled down from a larger head
The Sphinx is staring directly at a Kentucky Fried Chicken restaurant.
A Nazi shot the nose off, so they say
@@aaronstepien2363 No they don't. The Nazis weren't even in that part of Egypt. It was British controlled.
The usual story was that Napoleonic troops did it. The French actually were in Egypt. But even that story is false - the nose was damaged.before that. A convincing story is that the face was originally a lion and later changed to a person's.
@@thursoberwick1948 so it was just another spooky propaganda rumor that got repeated ad nausea lol
@@aaronstepien2363 Your Nazi rumour is just a garbled version of the Napoleonic one. Probably with Indiana Jones thrown in.
A lot of black supremacists claim white people did this to hide the Sphinx's black features and did it to other Egyptian statues. The only problem is that if you go to Rome you can see plenty of obviously white statues with noses broken off. Even nineteenth century ones it happened with.
What if Mu is Australia+Zealandia? There's evidence the great monument builders of the stone age made their way from the middle east all the way to south America.
0:02 can't say I've ever had that feeling
Giant's Causeway is not caused by lava eroding rock. If you've ever observed lava and how it forms rocks during eruptions it is always messy and chaotic, never like Giant's causeway.
It was caused by lava and studied for over a decade by Yan Lavalee a professor of volcanology at the university of Liverpool. There are simular geological simularities seen elsewhere in the world including Devils Postpile in the US. The legend in Ireland was Finn mccool formed the giants causeway after a scottish giant called Benandonner threatened Ireland and Fin McCool retaliated by tearing up chunks of the Antrim coastline and hurling them into the sea , it it also said a chunk of these rocks created the Isle of man . I live not far away from the Giants causeway and walked there many many times from childhood such a gorgeous wild place .
@@sammieskeleton3339 you don't see anything questionable about a guy named Lavalee being the volcano expert called in?
@@shinobi-no-bueno The fact that your best argument is to make fun of the name of a person, instead of actually addressing the issue at hand, is quite telling. This is well-established science that has been peer-reviewed and accepted.
Lava can flow and cool differently under different circumstances and environments. On top of this, the cooled lava will not remain in the same condition forever. It will be subsequently changed by environmental factors, just like any other substance we find on earth. And, just like other substances, it will change differently depending on local factors.
You claim that you know giant's causeway can't be caused by eroding lava, because you've observed how lava flows and cools during eruptions... have you witnessed all of the different ways this happens, in all different environments? Are you a credited geologist who has extensively studied not only the different ways lava flows and cools, and also the different ways it is affected over thousands of years by pressure, temperature, erosion, and other factors? If you were, you would have presented some actual data and evidence. You know, instead of making fun of a foreign name.
"Giant's Causeway is "
Obviously basalt, Cosmically Gullible. Perhaps you sell merch, tin foil hats and such.
@@shinobi-no-bueno Look him up he is a very educated and intelligent man .
Who the hell dislikes this channels' videos?! Such good everything!
This time I’m assuming graham hancock disliked it lol
Moustachophobics!
I dont’t dislike and I like his subjects but I absolutely hate the stupid animations and stock footage that he uses to guide his narration
Thoughty2 is bloody brilliant!
Probably people who disagree with some kind of thing Thoughty said as some point in time. Can’t think of any reason to dislike logically.
You make everything so interesting… like things I would never have even thought to look up
They havent been proved wrong either, and i definitely believe Robert Shoch's version of the weathering of the sphinx enclosure. It was NOT done by wind and Zahi Hawass is a massive liar!
SPOT ON!
@John Barber ok i agree he is stupid
You don't need rain. Because of the temperatur dropping in the night there is enough water building up. Hot Cold Hot Cold can destroy many things. But who knows
@@sokol7215 the sphinx is usually buried under sand and has had to be excavated a few times in it history. So it wouldn't be exposed to the air for that to be a factor.
Legend says when you're early you get to know the origin story of thoughty2's mustache
Not quite early enough it seems
Gotta be earlier than 5 mins apparently
I'd have a guess and say his upper lip
Your voice bring me calm . Thank you for your content
I'm a huge fan of your videos but, I have to admit, when you called West, Hancock and Shock "fringe" and "pseudo" ... I lost some of the allure. Their research has more foundation than the majority of institutional archeology. Always remember, Galileo, Copernicus and even Einstein were considered "fringe" and "pseudo" scientists until their hypotheses were proven correct. Just because it contradicts or challenges the norms, doesn't make it "pseudo". There have been many incidents of established academics covering up findings that contradict their theories, solely on the basis of ego.
Plate tectonics were laughed at until others started looking into it and slowly it became accepted.
Over reliance on academia and peer reviewed papers is how science dies.
Yes I agree- I like the quality of this video but his smugness makes me not a fan
i sort of get what you mean but "until their hypotheses were proven correct" do you not see the cognitive dissonance?
think physics (my field of study) since you mentioned physicists: the whole point of science is to find truths about the world in order to make use of them in bettering our lives. people come up with ideas, try to prove them, and make their results public (and they remain public, on platforms like arxiv or others). then other people try to understand and replicate the results, in an open and free manner (that's peer reviewing), because if they're true and useful everybody wins. if the results can't be replicated by anyone, or furthermore if they contradict proven knowledge without supplying a substitute, they can't be true, they don't describe the world faithfully.
what proving something means is supplying guided evidence that not only teaches your point but provides a means of testing it. all theories must be falsifiable. and until something's proven, by way of critical rationalism, it has to be doubted. that's what's healthy about the scientific method, rigorous testing and harsh criticism. obviously in good faith, but that is fortunately the norm, contrary to what some people who've never worked in or even studied science believe. you do get the rare psychopath but scientists have as much ethical responsibility as doctors, and they face consequences.
you clearly can't just believe and sink resources into what everyone says, it has to make sense, there's no other way. and it works very well, if you take a look at your smartphone, that's hundreds of years of coherent scientific development right there, sometimes in crazy leaps. if that doesn't tell you how great science works i don't know what will.
so when you say some people were considered "fringe" (which is not the same as "pseudo") and then they were proven right, well that's exactly what is supposed to happen. real discoveries don't get buried, they shine through sooner or later. it's true they may on occasion be at a disadvantage because of tradition and funding schemes and such, but they always get noticed and get traction if they appear true. i'd actually say scientists (alongside media) generally find crazy new ideas exciting rather than trying to bury them. and again, most of everything studied today is public.
the problem with actual pseudoscience is that it either makes unfalsifiable claims (they can't be tested) or the claims get falsified. it's that simple, it just doesn't work. time and time again have theories that challenged the current understanding actually changed the worldview. they seemed weird at first (although bear in mind everyting is built upon existing knowledge in tiny steps) but they fit in and made true predictions, so then everybody started working on them and they developed immensely in a short time (like general relativity in the 10s or quantum mechanics in the 30s). there are real life frameworks that need to be shaken from time to time but the scientific paradigm overall is absolutely viable.
on the contrary, pseudoscientists get their label because they keep saying things that are outright false, or nonsensical, or untestable. their stuff can't be "proven right". that's the work of ego and what say the bogdanoff twins, or chris langan, or hancock et co do. they write believable sci-fi at most. they speculate, and indeed may occasionaly be right (especially on very vague claims), but that's still not scientific research.
it's true there are soft and hard science and anything having to do with history is on the soft side, but science is not made of wishy washy opinions. that's philosophy.
Drink the Koolaid, the mothership is coming.
Seeing cities in rock formations must be like all the faces I see in the wardrobe in my bedroom.
Hello
how is this possible
2 hours ago?
How
No that's just me. You need to clean your wardrobe out. It's getting cramped in here
Subscribed ,, love the videos . Keep up the great work 👍👍
Is There a Lost Continent under that moustache
yes
Yes
"Achievement Unlocked"
Atlantis?
That would be the Ricard structure in Mauritania.. also known as the Eye of the Sahara.
10 000 years ago the sahara was green (that is a fact that is backed up by modern sience) and the big crater in Greenland that NASA discovered is in a channel that would direcly hit that place with a massive wave. This blast also created the frostwave that froze animals like mammoths (they sometimes find frozen once with gras in their mouth, so it did happen instandly...that is also a fact). After this impact the ice that melted created the steamcloud that pushed the frostwave after the north and the melting water started the so called "Meltwater Pulse 1a". The aborigines even talk about this in their "dream time" legends about the big flood "big bang... rained for days and where once was land it turnd to water".
The problem is that nobody goes there to dig and the buildings that the locals build (even today) are indeed made out of the rocks that plato describes, but they are made out of stacked, small rocks because it's a somehow stoneage civ.
Locals do find and sell "relics" like stonetools and weights that you would use for a fishing net and even seashells (that proves that this area was once connected to the ocean) but again... nobody goes there to do a dig, so it's just a area with A LOT of lose rocks. I mean you could dig and maybe find more relics... but i dont think that you would ever find any houses, because if you look and the buildings that the locals build (random rocks stacked to create a wall or house) you cant really prove or rebuild Atlantis
nope, the azores islands are where atlantis used to be, it is on the mid-atlantic ridge that fluctuated during the start of the younger dryas cataclysm 12800 years ago. The ricard structure is a 100x larger then plato said it is.
Japlantis
Thank you! I love your videos so much. They hit the spot
Legend has it thoughty1 used to live on that continent
*Conspiracy theorists:* Atlantis!
I knew it. The Earth was just trying to hide it like some embarrassing high school phase.
A turtle can confirm it does in fact exist.
Well it's possible.
There's very good evidence that that's in north west africa, it wasn't a continent, that bit has always been a massive exhaggeration, but a city state and the surrounding area that was linked to the atlantic, through a now dried up river system.
Lat/Long
N 21.07.20 W 11.23.60.
The dimensions of it match the accounts of atlantis, it's position and the surrounding mountains and rivers also match, even the names of the mountains and region fit, eg the Atlas mountains to the north east.
What is a conspiracy theorist?
Atlantis would be the Ricard structure in Mauritania.. also known as the Eye of the Sahara
actually, under watatsumi island there's hidden ancient ruins called enkanomiya
There are multiple temples carved directly into natural rock in India and (I think) Ethiopia.
And Mexico, and nearly every area in North and South America. Oh wait, are we still pretending that white people invented civilization?
@@ericmoore7413 I think they were referring about temples carved into humongous monoliths like Ellora and Ajanta caves in India. Temples in the Americas were built with blocks of stones. Nothing to do about races.
@@ericmoore7413 white people probably did invent the most advanced civilisation but not the earliest. plus white people are black people with a evolutionary trait that reduces skin pigmentation since its not needed where we live.
@@budele09 White people are supposedly only a few thousand years old but Neanderthals coincidentally had big noses, blue eyes, red hair and white skins and lived in the same regions. Just a coincidence, we're told. Different genes.
Graham Hancock pioneered many theories that are common knowledge nowadays so I think he’s pretty credible despite his lack of formal education.
the guy believes telekinesis helped build the pyramids, thats why actual archeologists dont take him seriously/
Hancock is a fraud. He lacks proper education in the fields he claims he's an expert of and that should fucking be enough for your tiny mind to understand who you're dealing with. A fraud.
@@deaconstjohn4842 I was with you until you started throwing out playground insults. If you want people to take you seriously, give them a reason to.
no, no he didnt. he took stories from my people in the americas, people from africa and asia and took credit for them. NO
@@deaconstjohn4842 who gave credentials to the first scholars? Secondarily if you believe that a slip of paper is the difference between a fraud and a legitimate person you're not just wrong you're stupid.
So crazy to think you’ve been doing these videos for so long
Love your work, respectfully disagree with calling a geologists assesment of water erosion marks on the Sphinx a frindge theory though given the agreement of geologists on the matter, that one is hard to discard even for me at least - the egypt monuments are weird, just very weird. Shouldnt be there 🤷🏼♂️
The head the sphinx's has now doesn't even add up. Its so smol.... Why? Replaced the head for ego reasons maybe?
@John Barber „The study was presented at the International Conference of Geoarchaeology and Archaeomineralogy held in Sofia titled: GEOLOGICAL ASPECT OF THE PROBLEM OF DATING THE GREAT EGYPTIAN SPHINX CONSTRUCTION“ mgu.bg/geoarchmin/naterials/64Manichev.pdf
@@Cole99v I was told it was originally a lioness head.
Geology are fraudulent fields and so is this channel. This guy uses more forms of fallacy and just straight up lies than a cheating wife. Lands rise and fall all the time, common knowledge. Unthoughty should also study the genome and its haplotypes, especially the recent findings.
@@Eblis840 I had heard that too but never saw it substantiated plus the computer mapping of the Sphinx face as it is now shows perfect symetry. PERFECT symetry, as in, you can digitally map only one side, invert it using manufacturing software and lay it onto the other side and they check out perfectly symetric. Impossible to be done by hand. It stays a connundrum because, even say we allow for the possibility that something else caused the errosion marks that are the bases of the controversy and take the currently official timeline - it shouldnt be there. We didnt have computer operated machines that could produce such a perfect symetry until 1000s of years later. Baffeling for the engineers that mapped it to say the least. Weird, the whole thing is just very weird 🤷🏼♂️ ua-cam.com/video/2fS9ixfQ_no/v-deo.html
I can’t believe you’ve dissed Graham Hancock 😢
I know, right?
I thought this guy was kinda smart.
Clearly, he ain't.
I've been a fan of Graham's for over 20 years. He wasn't dissed. It was a fair representation of who and what Graham is. He's an interesting person that you should take with a large pinch of salt. Gobekli Tepe did make him look more right than wrong though.
Truly disgusting, that some “people” would do this horrible thing
who has worked with Randal Carlson many times too, another legend!
Younger Dryas makes so much since to me. Especially when u can see the primitive repairs the Egyptians and Mayans really did.
Sounds like Ekonomiya from Genshin Impact. This proves a global warming exists y'all
Glad to see JR's podcasts with GH and JAW are reaching a lot of people! It was easy to rip on the "pseudo's" before JR but JR's podcasts are maiking people think and question the established theories for once! Good on ya JR
Video game developers: "Write that down, write that down!"
LMAOOOOO
Pokémon black and white has something like this under water where you get the most expensive items in the games.
4:10 There's a single lone letter that looks like a middle finger, I can't tell if it's legit or a joke since there's only one and it's right in the middle
8:22 bro there's a temple in turkey called Göbekli Tepe that is officially dated to 13,000 year old with advanced masonry. Look it up humans civilisation goes back long...
Ok, but this isn’t about that
@@teteeheeted he said human history isn't agreed to have gone before 5000-8000 years. This is why it's relevant
Don’t go there that’s where the Villian is locked the Main character hasn’t been born yet
The sphinx theory stands up. It's the erosion on its enclosure wall that gives it away it's blatantly prolonged water erosion
You should look into the research of Graham Hancock, as it fits with this video very well. Specifically, his work on the younger dryas theory and the destruction of ancient civilizations around 10000-13000 B.C. It's worth a video, that's for sure.
Although this one is most likely a natural formation, there have been lots of examples of of early lost civilizations or 'Proto-civilizations' that were around 8,000-12,000 years ago.
Societies and early technologies are likely twice as old as Egypt and Mesopotamia, but writing and records didn't show up until they appeared on the scene.
It ain't a natural formation. Intelligent humans are not a New Invention. We ain't as special as yo mama claims we is.
We as our current species have been around for a few million years. So we've been this cognitive the whole time. We weren't dumb back then. Makes you think what they were up to.
@@Cole99v Actually, if we go off the fossil record, modern humans didn't appear on the scene until 200,000 years ago and our population size and migration didn't start becoming significant until the last 50,000 years... minus those 2-3 ice age cycles since then that tried to kill us.
@@Jyiber and look how far we come in with technology in just the last say 200 years
@@Jyiber big brain
first thought i had when a lost city under japan was mentioned: Enkanomiya under Inazuma
pls tell me someone gets that reference
Sometimes, I think there’s a hidden continent in my stomach.
a rocky one, with volcanoes
So that's why they call it incontinence!
"I AM NOT SAYING ALIENS BUILT IT BUT ALIENS BUILT IT."... Georgio Suckalnut from the HISTORY CHANNEL
At 3 am
I'm not saying it was aliens.....but was it aliens...and the answer is Yes. lol Gotta love that!
I'm very happy someone mentioned northern Ireland in one of their videos because like no one ever mentions a random part of the uk that is small and shares a border with Ireland
My midnight ass be like: Forget sleep watch some Thoughty2 videos first
Same
Nobody cares. I expect you are also the kind of person who takes photos of their food and posts it on social media.
@@sunnyjim1355 that make you feel good? She commented something generic that no one really cared about, so you did the same, but to be a dick? Stunning and brave
Yeaay 2 hours later but its midnight in the uk now xD
@@sunnyjim1355 I bet you make your parents proud.
Hello there, i really appreciate your work, learned so much about everything, so different from main stream and what people learn in Schools.
Keep up the good work.
Greetings.
4:37 what place is this on the background?
Gram Hancock seems to have good explanations for his claims if you actually listen to what he says. I don’t think it’s fair to try to discredit him without explaining what about his methods are misleading or false.
Agreed
Puk
It's also not fair to judge someone on their previous work, look at the current work for it's merits, as Graham is definitely right but he did say some wrong stuff before
I love Graham
Lost continent beneath Japan? I never expected a “lost city of Atlantis” theory in Japanese waters. 😂
Fav channel for knowledge rn
I can’t say I’ve ever heard “Mayan” pronounced like that before
That's brits for you. They love their vowels
@@ChubakaSteven let’s not forget that we created the language👍🏼
@@joshd9873 but we Americans perfected it...
Maya for culture/people , Mayan for languages
@@jahjoeka or the Chinese whisper effect happened but I’m not gonna argue over language and dialect
3:17 what an interesting coincidence, le plongeon translates from french to “the dive” in English as to refer to the diver who discovered it
Great vid! :D
There's a "real" version of this: Dwarka, in India.
Yes
yes.
Throwing shade at Graham and J A W, not cool, don’t tell Joe for gods sake!
Exactly!
Who tf are they
@@db-hj9cu Go check out a Joe Rogan Podcast with Graham Hancock, he's a cool dude done thousands of hours diving and researching ancient structures and cool shit like that
@@scorpion0498 ok. Thanks
Rogan is friends with Michael Shermer, i don't think he'll be mad at this english bloke lol
This is not a structure. This is a quarry from the ancient civ that existed before (and some time after) the Younger Dryas.
2:36 the thing is, if such a continent existed during the thawing ice sheets of the most recent ice age, the rapidly refilling oceans may have submerged it. Anyone here familiar with ocean floor maps able to confirm or deny a submerged continental shelf-like seafloor formation?
There's a video about Earth's lost continents or something like that. There's no such thing as my, but Japan was bigger
"you know that feeling when all you want to do is dive into the dark forbidding ocean in the middle off an island in the middle of nowhere and look for sharks?" yes. yes I do
1:52 looks like a manual on how to breed camels, giraffes and horses from one main breed.
There are hundreds of accredited geologists that agree with Schoch’s assessment of the Sphinx
And there are hundreds that don't. It's not a numbers game, it's an evidence game
@@pixelguy9922 the evidence they present is very compelling
@@andreassofocleous8497 The "evidence" is mostly based on two assumptions:
1. The erosion of the sphinx could only have formed by heavy rain fall
2. The area hasn't been wet enough for 12000 years
Their claims only look compelling because most people listening to their arguments accept these two assumptions as facts. And within that context, they absolutely do have a compelling case.
But it's a manipulative narrative; because both of those claims have been proven to be false (which most people believing in the alternative sphinx theory doesn't seem to know). We know those patterns could have developed in other ways; and we also know that the area was much wetter 5000 years ago than today.
Every single claim made by the 12000-year-old-sphinx believers have been debunked using actual science and evidence. The problem is that very few people actually seek out that type of information because believing in extraordinary theories is more fun. But the thing is; a 12000 year old sphinx would esentially create 10 new, much harder questions in the pursue of answering one.
I recommend this video for example: ua-cam.com/video/lK2JM_nlkbM/v-deo.html
@@pixelguy9922 check out the joe rogan podcast about this ua-cam.com/video/tFlAFo78xoQ/v-deo.html
@@andreassofocleous8497 I’ve seen it, and read his books. I get frustrated with Hancock because he always start off with an hypothesis, and then tries to back it up with speculation rather than hard evidence (hence why I think he’s a pseudo intellectual, he doesn’t actually use a scientific method).
He’ll point at a few images and claim that his hypothesis is basically self evident. Or he’ll jump to conclusions using extremely thin data; like saying that an engraving of a circle on a piece of stone in Göbekli Tepe MUST be a comet! It’s obvious! Even though it could just as well be the sun, or a ball, or anything.
And the worst part is that he manipulates the narrative in a way that makes his version seem more likely, instead of simply observing all the evidence and reaching a conclusion based on that. You’d never hear him adress the contemporary written records placing the construction of the pyramids at 2500 BCE; but he won’t shut up about how the stars in the night sky obviously dates the pyramids to be 12000 years old. Basically choosing speculative argumentation over written and physical records.
Also, he really has the biggest victim complex in the world. In many chapters of his books, he almost spends more time bitching about how his critics doesn’t take his hypotheses seriously than he does actually proving his hypotheses.
The underwater monument is not a temple; it's the remanent of an ancient quarry that was originally above water.
Probly
If so, would there not be quarrying marks?
Clearly it's not a temple. A quarry is the best answer I've seen yet.
That makes sense.
@@tezzo55 not necessarily, erosion could easily remove that from sand/mudstone, could be what’s “writing” was.
one minor point. sand and mud stone fracture in flat *horizontal* planes, (unless they've been upheaved by land movement such as tectonic plate action below them)...but it's always a single plane, not right angles.
ORIGINAL TITLE: Is there a lost continent beneath Japan?
And that is still the title
@@wazzupp1029 it won’t be
@@SH7SH7SH7 tomorrow it will most likely change
still the same
Why would it change?
8:47 Not quite true. For example Gobeki Tepe actually represents quite advanced megalithic civilization dated 9000 years bc and this is scientific fact. It is highly unprobeable that this was the only one place on earth of advanced civilization for the next 6000 years.
Love learning about this stuff makes me wonder what other things that aren’t on the map anymore that we don’t know about we really need to look at the ocean more and do a good research u never know what you may find
It's not lost.... to the giant robots that live there 😏
Titans
No it’s the magic water cows
fuck no, everyone knows its godzilla
@@BootyQuaker Godzilla prefers the suburbs, he hangs out in international waters.
Definitely crab people
Do you think there is a lost island in his moustache?
Yes
It’s not a matter of I think it’s a fact that I know
An entire continent.
it’s 1 am and i can’t sleep so now i’m watching this
Nobody Expected the whole *Zealandia* Debacle ! So a -Lost continent of Mu- Greater Japan under the current isles does not surprise me