Angry Farmer Killed My Car Camper?! Wild Camping Disaster
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- Опубліковано 1 гру 2021
- Thanks for watching my video, this was a truly horrible experience. One we'll never forget. I would hate for this to happen to anyone else, so please spread the word - if you have any friends of family that love camping or have a camper van. Avoid this place!!
7 days into our Wild and Car Camping Snowdonia adventure, we decide to head into the heart of Snowdonia - coming from Barmouth where we had just waited a whole day/ night to get new tyres fitted. We arrived around llyn Ogwen at about 4.30/5pm, looking on google maps we found a quieter nearby lake with a long track up to it, with cars parked at the bottom on google maps, and the only sign saying to not block the gate (which we didn't) it seemed totally fine to head up there for the night, and to leave the car where it was.
This was not the case.
On our walk up, we saw the man we had seen at the car with his tripod, on his way back to his car. So as soon after we left on our walk, we were the only car parked there . The gate was only so wide, so we made sure that even with a car on the other side there was enough room for any vehicle that could fit through the gate, to be able to get past us. There was over a gate and a half's width of room leading up to the entrance of the gate.
There was no other reason for such an act of violence, the car was not searched, there was lots of camera gear untouched and not looked through. The gate was not obstructed so to me there is no other answer than that somebody who knew we were wild camping up there, didn't like it. (Probably because people have littered in the past :@ it all comes back to litter doesn't it! )There were only two people that saw us, one being the farmer who hearded his sheep in at sunset the night before. Who even sounded angry when he was just shouting at his dogs. We heard the same voice shouting on the way back to the car. We didn't think anything of it at the time, but now we think he was either warning whoever was carrying out the act, or just shouting and sort of cheering us as were coming back to the car, just to rub it in a bit more. As the dry patch shown in the video had not been there long.
So if us Wild Camping up there on a weekday, in less than ideal conditions (a clear sign we're not there to party) is enough for someone to do that. I fear for anyone else camping around there, and definitely anyone who decides to park up for the night where we left the car, maybe to do some night photography or for a night walk. I'm just so glad we weren't car camping.
Don't let this discourage you, It hasn't me! it's just the actions of one, Be safe out there ♥
Looking forward to a winter camp soon! I hope everyone is happy, healthy and having a good day ☺
Take care and enjoy nature ✌
I want to reiterate some points that were not made clear in the video.
I'm not "naming and shaming" anyone as the track leading up to the lake is owned by the power and water company and there are a few farms nearby.
This was a crime motivated by anger as more time was taken to destroy the car than to look through it - the go pro was still in the glove box which was massively on view if someone had the motivation to look Inside it. The car hadn't even been unlocked at the back or passenger side and nothing was looked through or stolen Inc lots of camera gear in the back of the car.
To anyone thinking I'm in the way, have a look at when the breakdown truck was parked parallel to me, there was still such a vast amount of room left over.
Also If I was in the way do you think that logically the tactic would be to strand the car for the whole next day?
The other car had moved way before sunset - when the sheep came in (we saw him leave) but even so, a hgv sized vehicle/ sheep truck could have still fit between us both, with room to spare. So once the other car had moved, there is just absolutely 100% no way any access was blocked, for any sized vehicle wanting to back up to the gate. This is why I parked nearest to the road to be considerate of this. As the track leading to the lake was narrow and broken and would have only fit a small van down it, so the only access for a large vehicle would have been to back up to the gate. I thought about all this before parking there, as I live in the country myself.
We were heckled on the way back down to the car, a frantic strange shouting was happening at one of the farms over the way - either at us or to warn someone we were coming back. We didn't think much of it at the time untill we saw then damage. We felt a bit intimated at the time, and thought how odd it was.
Ozzie also was scared and refusing to move as we neared the car (which we never does) so he obviously sensed some kind of danger at the car.
No one passed us in the morning going up to the lake, so whoever left that dry patch in the morning was the perpetrator. Whether it was a quad or a regular vehicle.
Who else would have stopped on a barely visible pull in on an A road, on a rainy weekday morning to just damage a car for no reason and not look through it?
Somebody that is angry. As people have said in the comments, they have parked there many times, and so had the local photographer we encountered whilst getting our stuff together.
He probably took one look at the messy ass car and presumed we would leave rubbish, as I'm sure countless inconsiderate people had done over lockdown.
The only person that saw us was a local farmer, who didn't see our tent because it was behind a big rock. So clearly when he saw that the car was there in the morning, he felt annoyed and angry that he hadn't seen it and moved us on last night. When he came into view we purposely moved away from the tent and acted as though we were just there taking photos.
And finally if it was a sheep truck that dropped the sheep off, and they hadn't just come from one of the various other sheep fields, then they clearly were able to get access without the need for the car to be moved.
What happened is just really disgusting human behaviour, I live in Cornwall where were surrounded by farmers and I know what they can be like sometimes. At the end of the day, all they should've done is just left a note on your car or they could come and find you on there quad bike right!? No need to vandalise like that, its just anti social behaviour that is for them to blame and not you! If that was my car i'd be fuming! Shame you had to scrap it, the insurance should cover that usually, only cost £650 max for part worn tyres and 2 new windows fitted :-(
I'm not saying who's at fault hear. Why was the car left unlocked? Insurance does not cover you if you leave your vehicle unlocked also there are criminals who travel to the country side to commit crime usually stealing quad bikes. And breaking into anything that's an easy thouch not stealing the camera gear is easy to explain they are looking for bigger more expensive items the bank card could be used to fill there car with petrol under the pin limit smashing the car just there level of IQ ( zero) . There's a lot of Crime in the county Side but people from cities don't believe there could be with the wide open spaces beautiful views peace and tranquility . I would like to end by saying we are not free to do as we please in the UK (Camping) and we should all get together and voice our message to the government Camping is freedom and we are free.
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@@vintagemopeds2767 the car wasn't unlocked? The window was smashed and they didn't bother to look through the car and unlock the doors for a better look. Or even look in the glove box? What part of that makes sense if it was thieves? Even if your a "vandal" that type of person would have had a snoop around don't you think? 🤣 Also I didn't even notice the card was missing for at least 7 hours, and the contactless wasn't even used. It was just to make the whole experience of getting home harder. Break the car, strand me.. steal the card, strand me even more.
@@vintagemopeds2767 there is a ? So I don't see an issue
I don’t condone and vandalism what so ever, it doesn’t prove anything. But I can’t get over the reason for your car being scrapped. Everything that was damaged was replaceable “tyres and windscreen”.
Insurance companies for ya… legalised racket
It was a nail of a car. Windscreen, windows, tyres, labour, towing, travel expenses for the two girls. Its not worth repairing for that outlay. Thats how it works
i have got to agree with u garry at most 350 quid would have had her back on the road now her insurance will be through the roof not including her excess will probally increase insurance companys are ripp of merchants
Car was scrapped as it’s worth very little - say £500 and the cost of 4 tyres and 2 windows would be more than that. It’s the way it works. Cheaper to deduct your excess and pay you out - simply it’s what you paid for with your insurance.
Insurance takes their replacement figures from main dealer prices not the local spanner monkey.
So 4x new tyres from Ditchfinder tyres maybe £50 each, at main dealer will set you back £150 each.
Again with the windscreen.
Then theres recovery charges.
Recovery + Fixing it is more costly than the cars value. So they write it off...
Thats why on a 10 year old car a cracked bumper can write the car off, because insurance will replace the bumper at £600 - £1000.
Botch it Johns Paintwork Ltd will plastic weld and fill the crack and spray it for £100
How can you blame a farmer? You don't know who did it? Unreal. Whoever did it obviously shouldn't have.
You're entitled to your opinion, I've stated mine and the reasons as to why I do in the video and pinned comment.
@@Wanderwithvickers point being it could have been some passer by, I assume you do get vandals in that area. Don't know a single farmer that would do this unprovoked.
I know this area well, traveling it often and living not too far away. I would put money on it that's this was done by vandals and not by a farmer. If farmers were so against people wild camping this would happen more often and it doesn't.
The farmer seems the most likely suspect. If not, where was he to help these ladies? Farmers in general should never be trusted. That is based on the experience of thousands of hikers ☕️🦘🦘🦘
Wow! My mouth was wide open watching that. Id like to say that the way you both handled it was amazing. My heart goes out to you for your car. Thank you for finishing the video and sharing it. Good luck with everything
I'm still in shock now tbh,. Aw thank you, I appreciate it. It took a minute but got there in the end haha. Take care!
I must have missed something. Did anyone see the farmer do this? If so report it to the police. That close to the road, I would have thought some passing yobs took the opportunity when passing. Very sorry you had such an experience. I think your insurance company was very poor. You should name them so we can avoid them. In terms of the camping spot. I imagine the farmer does get annoyed. A lot of people go there and abuse the place which is infuriating. I have given up wild camping now and use camp sites. Its a shame but so many people are doing it and sadly amongst those are some people that do leave a trace, along with poo near water supplies etc. Its got out of hand.
Christ, what an absolute nightmare. So sorry to watch your vid and see what happened to your car. What a reckless, stupid and dangerous thing to do to anyone's vehicle, but hats off to you two for the way you handled the situation. On your new car - tint the rear windows so people can't see that it looks like a 'campers vehicle'. I hope the 2022 is a better year for wildcamping for you. ATB Donna :)
I'm so sorry to hear what happened to you! What an utterly crap thing to happen to such nice people. I really hope or doesn't put you off wild camping or making videos - wishing you a lovely Christmas and better 2022 :-)
Thank you so much, it does suck when we always try to park and camp considerately. I fear I'm paying for other people's laziness with leaving litter etc. Thank you, you too!! 🎄❤️
Unless there was damage that you didn't show, there's something wrong with your insurance company.
Tyres are replaced at your own cost anyway and windscreen replacement is trivial and cheap. A driver's side window for a car of that age could be picked up for a song.
To write a car off for that damage sounds negligent bordering on corrupt, assuming that you described the damage accurately.
Having also been the victim of a 'car attack', but over here in Canada, I would suggest that this was NOT a farmer. There are people all over the world who are just malicious. Our car was parked on the side of a highway, but a quiet one. We own the property there, but can't drive the car in due to the lane being 4x4 only. All 4 of the side windows got smashed out, stuff stolen and the door frames themselves bent when they tried to pry the doors open before smashing the windows, This made the car a write-off for insurance. It was not some angry local. It was malicious vandalism by people who passed by and figured they could get away with it. I think this was what happened to your car as well. If there had been garbage strewn around the road you hiked, where you camped and where you parked, I could understand la local farmer being upset and taking it out on your car. But, this did not look the case. I think it was just a passer by idiot who was looking for something to wreck and thought it was funny. Sadly, there are people like that in the world. The dry spot could have been where they parked, but there could be other explanations as to who had parked there.
Am really sorry your trip ended like that 😣 You are so positive tho and that is awesome ☺️
Wishing you both better wildcamps in 2022 Xx
Thank you very much, it's a shame but hopefully there's a silver lining somewhere 😊 have a great Xmas x
@@Wanderwithvickers Thank you, you too 😊 x
As a local to the area i am embarrassed that this has happened!
There are nasty people everywhere! I've met so many beautifully kind people there to make up for it ❤️
Dosnt change a thing? Pointless comment.
@@CARLIN4737 you're comment is infinately more pointless haha
I've been to that area many times, such a beautiful location and that track is pretty steep :) So appalling what happened to you - I know it was a while ago now (I just found your channel) but I hope you continue to explore and enjoy the countryside.
This is a real shame to see, I’m sorry this happened to you. I get how people would get frustrated but there’s a way to act and this is not it. Thank you for sharing, I will ensure I am extra vigilant from now on. Take care.
That isn't childish, it is pure vandalism and who ever did it should be prosecuted. Disgraceful, I hope you were all ok
Agreed. Some of these farmers think they own our planet.
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That just doesn’t look like the work of a farmer to me, more the work of a few yobboes with nothing better to do. Having said that, your car could very well be an obstacle to a large tractor and trailer which needs a large arc to get in - and particularly to get back out of - that gateway. Also, the land may be owned by a utility company but that utility company will almost certainly have leased the land out to a farmer to ensure it is managed appropriately, so a farmer is paying rent to use the land. It is best to ask a farmer if you can camp - some may say no, but in my experience they really don’t mind if you ask first and they know where you are and can see you are responsible people. It is the courteous thing to do :)
Still absolutely no justification for this
You'd have to have a tractor the size of the Titanic to not be able get past that, including with a trailer.
A pissed off farmer should erect a sign. Not smash up a car.
This is yobboes, not farmer.
It doesn’t help 🤷♀️but can I just say I was so impressed by your absolute respectfulness and responsibility towards, initially thinking about where you Parked ( even if it turned out to piss someone off!) keeping your dogs on leads and in control at all times ( love them by the way… sooo cute!) and leaving the spot where you camped exactly as you found it! I can totally see how you didn’t in anyway go out to do anything to annoy or be disrespectful and hopefully the person/s that did this feel ashamed! X
Absolutely agree.
That is a shocking, nasty thing to do. I am so sorry! Insurance companies are terrible too. Especially if it was only the windows and tyres damaged and to think three of those were new! You are both considerate, caring campers everywhere you go and this was a blatant act of vandalism. You had not blocked the gate and a combine harvester could have got through there. As for taking your card too, I hope nothing else was missing. A real coward, no note saying why, even so still no reason for any of that. I also feel bad hitting the 'Like' button as I like all your videos and hope there will be more. The person responsible needs a reality check! I am glad you all got home safely after such an ordeal!
I'm still in shock now tbh, the anger they must have felt.. to a car that was doing absolutely nothing wrong to them. I know I was shocked at that too! The engine was fine 😒 it's glass and rubber 🤦♀️
No nothing else, there was plenty to steal but pretty much most stuff wasn't looked through at all.
@@Wanderwithvickers I think windscreens should be covered on all vehicles against vandalism, then another set of tyres and you would have been good to go. Gutted 4 u
This is vile! I've parked in exactly that spot several times without issue......suffice to say I won't be doing it again. I hope there's a happy ending somewhere for you guys ❤️
Maybe you added to the problem and who ever owned that access got fed up. Park proper.
No you are off message, the area is populated by vile deranged farmers who hang about waiting to pounce on innocently parked vehicles.
They get a subsidy for everyone smashed up sufficiently to need scrapping.
Hope this helps.
@@ScotmanUK2000 The only problem is the people throwing big rocks into car windows. That's the criminal.
@@4wdflying Wild campers should make this a Solstice gathering place, even a permanent protest camp against the thuggery shown to wil camping. Farmers are fkd up.
@@4wdflying A subsidy from scrappers? Sounds like a joke. I suppose they need it now we've left the EU, to go with their other hundreds of thousands of pounds.
What an absolutely disgusting person to have done something like that. I'm so sorry for you all, Like you said the actions of an angry child. Stay strong and positive you two as you have been actually, sending you all my best wishes from Madrid x
It's just crazy, I can't believe people. I was not causing a problem or blocking anything. Yes 100% not the way to deal with it
@@Wanderwithvickers No absolutely not obviously this person has deep rooted anger issues and well needs to learn to vent that elsewhere and not at innocent good people like yourselves.
It's obviously the owner of the gate you were parked at. I swear he'd lose every f*cking sheep in that field if that was my car.
Glad you were able to get home safely! Can't believe breakdown wouldn't cover it. You assume if anything happens to the car you're ok.
Thank you, thank god for family 😍I knoe I was under this impression. I guess it's the car only and not you
Oh wow that was a bit savage! Might be worth digging a little bit and seeing if any other vehicles have been vandalised like that there?😲🤔
So you where wild camping on private land? Also a Farmer can legally shoot your dog's if they're deemed to be causing stress to his sheep, particularly if they're pregnant.
Sheep miscarry very easily.
You can't just roll up and do what you like in the sticks, there has to be a bit of respect given.
Common sense comment 👏 👌
Why did you not talk to the farmer? Could maybe avoided car problems 🤔
@@carlmorgan8452 "car problems" 😁😑
Private land should be marked with signs or barbed wire. Owners/Landlords should approach the trespasser and tell them to leave. It shouldn't escalate so quickly. I respect private land but it has to be marked and people must be given a warning to leave. If they don't, then fine, shoot or whatever. But there has to be clarity.
Contrary to popular belief, a farmer does not have a legal right to shoot a dog that is worrying their livestock - what they have is a legal defence. Shooting a dog must be a last resort. Dogs are classed as property so shooting a dog could trigger criminal damage proceedings and the farmer will have to prove he had a ‘lawful excuse’. The farmer will need to show that his sheep were in immediate need of protection, and that his actions were reasonable having regard to all the circumstances. The farmer could also face civil proceeding for damages for the loss of the dog. The farmer will need to prove that the dog was worrying or was about to worry the livestock, and there was no other reasonable means of ending the worrying.
So sorry ladies! Hope you get back on the road soon! X
I’m a farmer who probably wouldn’t want someone camping on our private farmland anyway, sorry to say, as our land is not common land, but this is not how most farmers would deal with this.
If your vehicle had been parked annoyingly in our local area I’d have expected one of the farmers to have splattered it with muck or blocked it in with silage bales. I don’t see what a farmer stood to gain from having you stuck around any longer? I was expecting a farmer to have an altercation to prove it was them. Also a bit surprised it was completely written off for tyres and windscreen. 😳
I’d have also moved on the night before when the farmer saw you, as you knew it was not technically legal. You even said were trying to hide the fact you were camping from them.
Still a horrible thing to happened, all the same. Thank heavens for uncles coming to the rescue
A standard size vehicle will leave a patch smaller than the vehicle, the size of the patch does not indicate it was the quad, unless you saw the farmer vandalizing the vehicle it’s just speculation. This could be just random vandals.
I think it's the farmer for lots of reasons said in the pinned comment. I'll say it again, vandals would have looked in the glove and found the go pro..
@@Wanderwithvickers not true, like saying that a thief would also vandalise a car. Too many assumptions in your story.
Wow, don't get it? Tires slashed, windshield and a window smashed and for that they scrapped the car? What did I miss? Glad you guys were rescued.
Probably had the cheapest, basic insurance. The car itself is probably not worth enough compared to how much the repairs would cost. ⚖️
Full set of tyres and a windscreen is honestly worth the same as the car itself, really not worth fixing. In the eyes of insurance anyway.
Because it was a peice of crap 20 year old golf worth about 200 quid, half what repair would cost.
windscreen is classed as a supporting structure no windscreen car is illegal to move on the road.
@@jasonandreoli4135 less than the cost to repair/replace the farm equipment i would have destroyed had that been my car.
Such a shame that the mantra 'be kind' hasn't been adopted by many people. You've seemingly taken it well, I would have been angry to find my car in that state.
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The uploader certainly isn't being kind by publicly blaming local people for damaging her car - when there's no evidence it is anything other than opportunist break in by someone passing on the road.
Good luck in future endeavours don’t allow this to deter you both in any way!
Oh my effin hell!!?? What is wrong with people, so gutted for you guys! Glad you got sorted in the end and you managed to get home safely!
Thanks for sharing and hope your next trip goes better
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Thank you! Such craziness, I will never understand. Hoping to get out for a winter camp soon! Might get a Welsh car sticker for the next trip 😆🤦♀️
I have worked in that area taking groups hill walking and the thing i came across on quite a few occasions ,i am afraid to say, is welsh nationalism and the hatred of the english answer me this ,does your car have an english number plate? if it does theres your problem . On one occasion i was mountain biking round snowden, wild camped at the side of the road, next morning my tyres where slashed and i am irish ,just be carefull
@@peterhamilton356 Being English or any other nationality has nothing to do with it. If you decide to camp wherever you like and piss off someone, it doesn't matter where you're from. Don't spread hate Peter.
@@kwak1k I totally disagree, take the rose tinted lenses off and you will notice how lots of people hate the neighbouring countries but even if that wasn't the case a Welsh sticker may put the farmer off as they would be close enough for sweet revenge!
You're really a good calm girl. I admire you. He wouldn't do that kind of thing here in Malta without suffering a deserving reprisal. He could've arranged a towing if it was obstructing. Destroying something which belongs to others means that he will have the same fate over here.
When I was about 13 in the 60s a farmer caught us in his field, smack round the back of the head and made us leave through the gate rather than the gap in the hedge, adding about 5 miles to our walk home.
That night his electric fence was cut. In the morning we were able to watch him rounding up his cows from the local gardens, which he was having to apologise to the angry neighbours for the damage.
13 year old boys don't stop there, this kept happening for a month or so.
I'm not saying we were right but it sure felt good.
This is absolutely horrible, you were parked well out the way , this is honestly my worst nightmare when wild camping
Unbelievable! I hope you've got this sorted now with insurance or whatever? It does seem like the locals are getting pretty peed off with it in Snowdonia lately with nobody being able to go abroad they have been there instead. Makes you worry about parking up there and I'm due to go there soon 😬 I probably would have driven it closer to the gate for a while and sorted it out in a few days
Unlikely the insurance would stump up, if the vehicle was being used to engage in an illegal activity (wild camping)
That’s appalling absolutely appalling!! It’s also a criminal offence whoever’s done it ( criminal damage ) your all home and safe that’s the main thing 🙏❤️❤️👊xx
Such total madness, yeah all good now. And at least it could have been worse, we could have been it it! 🙏
I am so sorry this happen to you:( I cant even image how upsetting that must of been and scary! Yet I cant help that feel that I am glad for you both and the dogs, that you wasn't sleeping in your car when this person came. This could of been so much worst. thank god you was all by the lake and safe.
They were wrong on 3 counts. Don't feel sorry for them.
Absolutely.
You are right. You were not blocking the gate if a car wanted to enter but it's most likely that it was a farmer with a large trailer on the rear that couldn't make it onto his own field. But never mind, you learnt the hard way
That's not the point, it says to keep it clear. That means don't park near it. There is a cheap car part opposite the lay-by. Too lazy or too tight to move and pay.
I've had something similar happen to me . I left my car on an access road with plenty of room to pass by. When I came back my window was smashed and the wing mirror was on the floor. I was so annoyed that I went and brought a couple of good paddlocks and made sure the access road wasn't as accessible 🤷♂️ not a very grown up response but treat pettiness with pettiness. If you're vandalising cars and not there to face what you've done expect retaliation
How about being respectful about where you park in the first place.
This is not the way to handle the situation. I'm gutted for you guys. Love your videos, really helped me dream of freedom while suffering covid recently. I went out and got a roof box and am making sleeping platform! I hope you continue when this isn't so raw. Hugs you to both and the dogs x
Thank you so much, it's just craziness. Aw that's amazing, so glad your getting out there. I've been doing this a long time and nothing like this has ever happened before, don't let it discourage you. The dogs send their love ❤️
She invented the storyline to fit her prejudice and boost views though by thelook of it.
She has no knowledge of rural areas and thinks they are all some kind of deranged half wits.
@@4wdflying I don't agree with what you're saying. Having watched many videos on this channel they show nothing but love for the countryside and have inspired me. Unless you have evidence this was made up I don't think it's fair to speculate this way
Agreed. You guys did nothing wrong, and were entirely respectful.
So sorry to hear that this has happened to you. We are still getting our car organised for next year and have just got a puppy that we pick up next Friday. You are a big inspiration to us as we are in our mid to late forty's and it's the first time we are going to be doing something like this. Will definitely be trying to find places where we can stay with our car. If you can recommend places for this I would be very grateful. Hoping we see you out wild camping again with your doggies also looking forward to seeing your new set up in your new car, as we thoroughly enjoy watching your videos 😃
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6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
Jesus
Warning to all farmers..
If you ever fuck with my car, you WILL lose your farm. 🔥
That sucks, but why would an "angry local farmer" take a debit card? It sounds more like an opportunist thief/vandal to me.
By destroying the car, the goal is to strand me. By taking the debit card which was in the door of the window he smashed, makes it even harder for me to get home. There was lots of camera stuff in the back, if you take that much time to destroy the car, you would have a look in the back or even in the glove. But no, this tells me it's an act of anger only
Exactly, since there are probably only 2 or 3 locals might want to use the track, making the whole video around this assumption is tantamount to slander.
@TRIG POINT But she is blaming local community with no evidence.
As a result other commenters here are proposing vigilante actions.
Unsupported allegations on media is how wars start.
@@4wdflying I don't agree, as it was one of them so 🤷♂️
@@4wdflying I think common sense gives you the answer to be honest 🤣
That was horrible to watch but you took it on the chin like true champs. What goes around comes around - hopefully. Bless you both.
Didnt have no choice? What proof did they have of who did it? It was well out of order though.
Really enjoyed this video,hope you have a lovely 2022@stay safe debs xx..
when your cars not even worth 4 tyres and a couple windows jeez, never trust insurance companies, they will pay out pennies and up your premium to get it back over the next year and then some
Next time when you park your car, Put one of them trail hiden cameras up watching your own car, Any movement and hay presto you will find out who did it and send them the bill for being dumb arses!
excellent idea + dash cam
Jesus Christ! So sorry to hear you had to go through that. Nice to know the insurance company is happy to take your money but leave you basically in the s***! Gutted for you
Hey, Thank you so much. I know right, a lesson learned. Very stressful, but I'm feeling alot better now time has gone on a bit. crazy re living it all in the vid 😆
Really? What level of insurance did she buy?
No way is the car writen off, tyres, £60 each, windscreen £100, window, £25 from a scrappy.
1 puncture and 3 new tyres? 😂 I’m in the wrong business lol
Gutted for you girls. I'm a Welsh wild camper who follows the countryside code as close as you can when 'illegally' wild camping, leave no trace, etc, but unfortunately there are a few farmers that think themselves gods in their own little kingdoms. Most over my 40+ years wild camping have been great as long as you show their land the respect it deserves, some begrudgingly allow it, but a small minority are right arseholes.
We had a problem a few years back for one of our English friends, came down from Cumbria and all, while wild camping in the Brecon Beacons, that was until my other butty, who used to live local got involved. It was only because the farmer knew my buttys father that he backed off. Threatened our friends car before we arrived the prick.
This is why we need designated wild camping areas in wales.
In Wales and England, almost all land is owned by someone and there is no law providing people access to someone else's land, which makes wild camping; generally illegal.😗
There is absolutely no proof that any farmer was involved in what happened. And your comments about some farmers is a little flawed given that she was the one that was somewhere she shouldn't have been in the first place.
@@bigteddy66 for starters I know my history and I know how dickish SOME farmers can be. Snowdonia national Park, especially the area the girls were in, has a right to roam code on most upper land, so they were very much allowed to be where they were. Illegal camping is most often turned a blind eye to, so long so you follow the countryside code, which these girls were following. I never named a farmer, just said how dickish SOME can be, if it was the farmer that did it. I'm not local to the area but have passed the spot many times and have often seen vehicles parked there, never blocking access that I have seen. And I drive a hgv for a living.
Wild campers can be "dickish" also and as you pointed out it's illegal. Right to roam was a stupid idea. It should have been a right to prosecute trespassers that was brought in.
@@bigteddy66 wouldn't happen to be a farmer would you, or the farmer, as you seem to be very unsympathetic to what has happened to these girls. True there are the bad campers that trudge up a mountain or into a woodland and leave a mess, but the majority, and there are a lot of videos on UA-cam, respect the environment and want to protect the land for all. There are also many landowners that would love to fence off the whole countryside to keep out the peasantry from THEIR little kingdoms. The national parks were set up to protect what little countryside is left on this island, set up for ALL, not just the privileged few.
There's a public car park 150 metres to the west of where you parked. It's at the entry to the campsite that is about 200 metres away from where you parked.
U did it lol
These farmers should be very careful when vandalising people's property, there are many people who will not react so placidly to this kind of atrocious behaviour. I hope the perpetrators in question see this comment and heed the warning.
Who ever did this to those poor innocent girls should be ashamed of themselves
In my youth ( my 20s ) I used to do lots of camping and at the time I thought I was very respectful and responsible to the land , but I have to say most of the farmers I ran into were miserable angry human beings,
I work with farmers. I deliver chemicals to farms. They can be very wierd people some of them.
I have memories of being frogmarched off some Welsh farmer’s land by the business end of a twin barrelled twelve-bore for committing the heinous capital offence of wandering mistakenly off a public footpath. No point complaining to the police about it, certainly not in that era (1985) or that part of the country!☹️🤷♂️
@@adamcowell7847 its the inbreeding
We tried to be as considerate as possible by leaving the most room possible, as I know how annoying it can be if Access is blocked and how crazy farmers can be!
Unfortunately this is the case round my area also.
@@Mat-kr1nf wow that's crazy! We have the same issues round here. Farmers putting locks on walkway gates that lead to canal paths when they are clearly there on the walkway!
You did lock the gate tho. Why do you think the entrance is so wide? It’s to get a tractor with a large trailer through you should park in lay-bys not infront of gates
That drive way and gate DO NOT belong to farmer, they belong to Waterboard. Check facts before shitposting Michael. You're a sheeple.
Yeah so let's just completely smash someones car to pieces because they made a slight error in judgement of where to park, maybe they didn't think about a tractor with a large trailer, does the make them stupid or deserving of having done to them what they did? If it was a farmer (which we don't actually know that it was) a simple note on the windscreen would have brought that to thier attention. People like you always assume that people do things cos they don't give a shit whereas in most cases its just good people making a naive decision
I honestly think this could have been some local scoundrels as much as a farmer. You get a fair few lads in cars messing around through the Ogwen valley over night.
Quick tip I learned in America, get yourself a dash cam and backing camera that record footage. If anyone comes near the car you have it all recorded and they can go to jail
I’m not defending the farmer by any means, but how do you know it was him/her? It’s all guessing?
Either way it’s a terrible thing to happen
I'd call it an educated guess. Not just wild accusations.
@@daniel_001 it's just a wild open accusation.
its shocking to see it happened etc & then to hear the cars possibly being written off.. I'd just source the door glass via a local scrap yard, new tyres "again"& then get a windscreen via the insurance "glass cover... hopefully" if not you could possibly find/source a replacement without the insurance involvment
It's just so mental. But there we go, people are nuts! I wanted to do that, I have a great garage at home. But because breakdown wouldn't cover it, the price to get it home was ridiiiiiiculous
I'm sorry that happened to you. People can be truly awful.
I have wild camped in the area around Tryfan on many occasions. It is really terrible what you have experienced on your wild camping trip. Unfortunately so many farmers in the UK are aggressive and unfriendly towards people who love the outdoors. On one occasion a farmer swung up and pointed a loaded shotgun at my face whilst I was talking to him. England and Wales need to have the same laws that apply in Scotland to stop these outrageous incidents happening !
Wow what a shame. I wouldn’t be too sure it was a farmer as they would be more likely to not allow you to stay the night in the tent had they seen you and damaging the tyres only keeps you there longer. I’m sorry to see you’ve had to deal with such a awful situation, it’s totally unacceptable.
It was definitely the smelly arsed farmer.
100% it was a farmer. They’re THE worst
This is awful, especially when it happens away from home. Sorry to hear you had to go through this. Some people have absolutely no brain and heart😡 I hope you are better now and will be able to travel again soon🤗🙏
P.S. Paid campsite is located very close to that place. This suggests thoughts that someone might have been pissed off by the fact that you stayed nearby for free.
It was definitely an experience 🥲 thank you, I don't understand it but I won't let it stop me getting out again soon, hopefully for a winter camp! You never know, you'd have to be a pretty good campsite detective though as we could have just gone up there for sunrise 🤔
No way! 😮. I've just got back from doing the West coast of Scotland, roof box full of fishing gear and food, airbed in the back of the car. It was my first time car camping, and I loved it!😊.
Criminal damage like this is very worrying, a sharp knife/tool was used to slash those tires. The police need to find this culprit. Good to see that you are both safe.
@D M As I mentioned it’s criminal damage and it is wrong to assume it was anything to do with a farmer.
How you deal with your car being totalled and how I dealt with my car being totalled, are two different things lol.
Haha 🤣 there was definitely some low points 🤦♀️
@@Wanderwithvickers I hope you get a new car soon and you're not worrying too much about it. I don't want to miss out on your highly amusing content:
"Why you there fake rock?" 😂
I'm not familiar with your channel until this vid, but that's a shit thing to happen to you, and I feel like you should've been more angry at it! Good job keeping your calm. I'd say it was vandalism/criminal damage, and if I had more trust in the Police I'd be calling them to investigate it (in a world where they did their jobs correctly!). It seems like whoever did it should be held responsible and sued the fuck out of.
I’m so sorry for the treatment you received in North Wales 🏴. I live on the North Wales 🏴 Coast and had I known at the time you could have had my Vauxhall Zafira which is a good camping car and has loads of space especially if you take the third row of seats out.
Ahh well I hope you’re back out safe and sound 👋🙏🏴
I'm half way through, it's still a happy innocent positive video, such nice people. I'm dreading the next bit.
I'd be very careful the farmer doesn't get shown this and pursue legal action against you. Farmers generally don't destroy cars, passing criminals do. You shouldn't of been parked on someone else's land in the first place! Throwing liable accusations around on social media? Rather you than me!!!!
Passing criminals or even kids would have had a look inside, bothered to unlock the back doors and had a look around. Besides the track is owned by the power and water company so I'm not directly on anyone's land - the farmer will just share access. I'm not naming and shaming or giving out anyone's personal address. This is my opinion of what happened. There is no other explanation I can see. All my camera stuff, go pro money, lots was not even searched through. This screams an act of anger to me
Some farmers destroy cars. Know a few and they are mad bast**ds. Seen videos, cars being tipped clean over.
Picking on two young girls who have respect for the countryside amd seam loverly people. Karma
Ignore the negative comments girls. You have done nothing to disrespect anyone. Can get a tractor and trailer through that gate.
@@diannaroe7382 if this is the bar for "respecting land" then its no wonder wild camping is illegal.
Gutted for you but literally ¼ of a mile up the road there's bags of free parking 😬
That would be another 1/4 mile walk though.
@@brianlopez8855 oh wow 1/4 mile...pfff
@@brianlopez8855 would actually be a 1/2…
Glad someone has identified sarcasm.
I think that was a barbaric act of anger and absolutely inadequate behavior toward such wonderful, friendly and positive ladies. Shame!
Hi guys, I'm very sorry to see this happened to your car; but I have to say there is no evidence whatsoever that a farmer is responsible for this act - which amounts to criminal damage - this is purely speculatory. Sadly, in the absence of CCTV or other witnesses, this crime will never be solved. It's such a shame, as there was no obstruction of the gate, which leads me to believe this may have been caused by mindless vandals - I hope this doesn't put you guys off wild camping and I hope you get everything sorted and back out soon 👍🏕️
Totally agree with your comment and suspect like you this is in fact an act of mindless vandalism
@TRIG POINT Why would it be locals it's a busy road with dozens of cars passing.
Someone will have noticed it there all night and decided to see what's in it next time they passed.
The locals won't be out thinking smashing a car window is some kind of fun.
You have very warped ideas.
@TRIG POINT that's the Welsh though not the local farmers she is vilifying
That stinks, I can't imagine scrapping a car for 4 tires and a windshield/side glass. That's crappy all around though and I hope things have since turned around for you guys.
You had four tyres to buy, a windscreen and a side window.... And it was scrapped because of that?
Tyres and windscreen are typical things to get replaced.
Maybe change the video title? it’s unfair to wrongly accuse the farmer without proof. Everything seems to suggest it was opportunistic thiefs. Other than that, I enjoyed this well made video.
Opportunistic thieves would have looked in the glove box and taken the go pro or looked through the bags in the back and found lenses and a video stabilizer
@@Wanderwithvickers still could have been vandals, it happens. I wouldn’t point the blame at the farmer without proof. I still enjoyed your video, it was well made.
Please don't blame a farmer. What do you mean by 'a farmer'? Numerous people live in the countryside and work the land to make a living, and it's pretty thankless in many ways - they're people you will have been to school with, who you buy things off daily when shopping (at the end of a long chain of transactions, with the farmers getting minimal profit), who constantly have to repair and maintain the styles, paths and access points to the countryside, and clear the litter left, all unpaid. Horrible experience, yes, my heart goes out to you for your loss, but I think the most a 'farmer' would have done is left a note on the vehicle if they were unhappy about it, it wouldn't occur to them to act in such a way and would be as upset as anyone else to see such vandalism. (There's always exceptions, of course. There are a good few "get off my land" types about, but even then would want you to be able to remove yourself, not disable a vehicle.) I'm a townie, though with a farming ancestry. If there's a bit of countryside I'm particularly fond of, I make an effort to say hello to the farmer/tenant, and it usually pays off. The worst experience that happened to me was getting blocked on a farm track by a huge Landrover in a similar situation to yours and being quizzed about my presence. When the actual landowners found out, they were disgusted and invited me to visit the farm for a cup of tea - the 'farmer' who blocked me turned out to be a casual worker from miles away.
I agree with you, and this is in no way a generalisation or stereotype.. there are bad people in every profession. But the bottom line is anyone else who could or would have done it, would have looked through the car? Or at least the globe box and would have found themselves a nice £300 go pro 🤔🤷♂️
Maybe they weren’t thieves, but vandals as has been suggested by local people in these comments?
I feel annoyed that this has happened to you, you seem like a couple of responsible young people. I hope you get sorted with another car soon and carry on with your adventures
Thank you 🙌 I've got another one but unfortunately it's not car camp friendly. Hopefully will have a van in the coming months ✌️❤️
Omg! How horrible for you both and the doggies 😥. Some people 🤬🤬!
Hope you get back on the road soon💕👌🙏💕
i know so eveil, the doggies were not happy about loosing thier bed! thank you !! 💕
Surely four new tyres and a new windscreen would have got you back on the road? Why did the insureres write it off - very strange. Name the insurance company so we can avoid them.
My friends 2014 Quashqui in very good condition got written off by insurance because all the windows got put through…. Maybe a grands worth of glass to replace?. Insurance companies are definitely just scam artists who would rather scrap a perfectly good car than repair it
@@richardmachen6282 Its also worth checking who buys the 'wreck', as it may be a staff member of the insurance company or a dealer who splits the profit with a memebr of the insurnace company's staff. I had a motorcycle written off but when i complained they changed their minds and paid for the repairs.
I’m not sure if this was a farmer. While this is absolutely appalling and I do feel sorry for you was there a reason not to park in parking bays which are perhaps 500m from here?
I can't be sure obviously but you get a feeling about such things, especially as the go pro was still in the glove. The parking spots were down a busy a road with no footpath, it was getting late, we had the dogs and sunset was fast approaching.
Plan your journey more efficiently to allow time for parking and to walk to where you intend to camp.
@@jimmyjohnstone5878 Really? That's your take-away... you're putting some blame on "Wander with vickers" jeez.
I had the same situation, I was "car camping" at one point, just pulled to a place that I used to stay once a while, away from houses, though there was a country road near the place I parked my car, I was sleeping well, and then suddenly I heard this loud bang and the sound of shattered glass... one of my windows was smashed, I then heard a car leaving in a hurry... someone either thought there was no one in the car and I guess they tried to steal whatever they wanted to steal, or simply some angry farmer...
What is wrong with people I am asking, I spent a week in Wales, leaving my car for three consecutive days, in Brecon Beacons on one of the free car parks in the "hills" and the care was fine, I also left a lengthy note stating that the car has not been abandoned and I will be back in three days... The car stood there safe and sound... I guess some people are easily triggered by other people having fun!
You just said the answer it was in a car park not someone else property. What if some came to your house park their car on your driveway and left it there overnight, would you go oh its ok they having fun not a problem at all. There is a car park 1/4 mile away and probably not been a problem if they had parked there instead. Wonder how many times the owners have found people just parked on their land ?
@@acechris34 Yeah well, I would rather leave a note saying if this happens again the car will be towed away or would post a sign with a price for parking car and the rules, such as 1 car allowed at the time, or something like that, but to go to such extremes... I think it is a bit too much. But as you mentioned this may happened a lot of times and the land owner lost his patience. This is why I don't tend to leave a car anywhere near houses or clearly at someone property, always trying to find spots that are hidden or confirmed that overnight parking is allowed. There is a nice app for that Park4Night, used that app when traveling to Wales and Scotland and hadn't have any problem.
The key lesson for her to learn is that she should use a designated parking place.
Are you sure this was a farmer? I am a bit wary of farmers when I go wild camping. We have come across a couple of them, one seemed quite chatty, another seemed like he wanted to say something but couldn't quite get it out, which made me think he wanted to "scold" us. I am sorry to hear of your experience. I hope you have not been put off your camping. Your dog is adorable, by the way!
Aw thank you so much, you can never be 100% but I feel like I copped a lifetime of anger. Most reason being that my glove box was even looked through, I had a new go pro in there xx
Your excuse of ...any car could fit by..so why do that...is a lame excuse..
How about getting permission to go on people's property??..
Not saying what they did to your car was right..it wasn't at all.
But you can't just leave your car on property..trespass and then expect them to accept it..and then say..don't know why..they had room to get by..
Hope you gotta another car and learned a lesson...
What a lot of people don't understand, every piece of land in the UK is owned by someone. So if you wild camp you are trespassing.
Only because they stole the land off us in the first place. Forgive me because I never feel guilty as I continue to trespass everywhere.
robber barons, steal what isn't theirs, Commons belongs to the Commoner, the meak shall inherit
By UK do you mean England and Wales, Scotland has the right to roam and wild camping is permitted and there is no such law as trespass here.
@@Aboutaweekago1787 unfortunately you are right there is no trespass law in Scotland. Very unfortunate.
Factually incorrect.
Someone is only trespassing if they don't leave after being asked to.
Also, trespass is a civil matter, damaging a car is a criminal offence. Therefore, the landowners response to the act of parking a car was disproportionate.
They could just put a sign up saying no parking if they want to discourage people from stopping there.
Sorry this happened to you, it is horrible. As an experienced wild camper of going around Scotland over a period of 15 years I will say this parking area isn't ideal. It just doesn't look wild enough and being that close to a gate like that is a major red flag. Not saying that you did anything wrong but personally I would not pick a place like this in Scotland unless I was desperate. Keep on wild camping. 🙂
So sorry this happened to you. Ill never leave my bike unattended again
Sorry that you had to learn a hard lesson.
But I have to say.
The number one rule of wild camping is, do not park in any driveway. No matter how wide it is.
Although you say the land was owned by utilities. It is obvious that it is only the part where the lakes and sheds are situated.
If you researched it. You will probably find that the land is owned by the farms and small areas are leased to the utilities.
It is ignorance such as this that turn people and landowners against those of us who do our due diligence and stick to the etiquette of wild camping.
May I say you were very lucky not to have had your dogs shot off leash. Farmers have the right to shoot dogs off leash where their flocks graze.
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Absolutely right. As regrettable as the vandalism is, these ladies need to learn how to park and behave in the hills.
Exactly. Her arrogant position that she ought to be able to park on private land is why land owners are getting more and more annoyed. One car, once in a while, as it was years ago, is possibly ok. In recent times however the has been a huge increase in the numbers of people wanting to access the countryside for recreation. The infrastructure hasn't kept up, especially parking places. That doesn't excuse irresponsible parking. She has hopefully learned a lesson.
I but was it private land?
If it was, the gate should of been closer to the Rd.
Just some sick jealous people out there, wonder how many of u on here would of felt it it had of been ur daughters.
The car could of even broke down
@@lizzrobb2313 why should the gate be closer to the road just because it’s private land?? It’s set back from the road to allow the large farm traffic to turn into it comfortably. If it was close to the road, the turning circle would be too tight. Fact of the matter is, that if they parked in the public spaces a couple hundred feet away, then there would be no issue. I think the vandalism is utterly wrong. But, these ladies were in the wrong and need to learn how to behave in the hills.
I would of left the car there still taxed and insured for weeks 😁
@@Mich-G if u like wild camping try check my channel bud ✌🏻
WOW, I really feel so sorry for you, I cant believe someone would do this to you in such a remote place leaving you stranded, were they ever caught, I have a tracker in my vehicle, so any movement or vibration sends an alert to my phone, maybe something to think about. Keep Safe.xo
I personally don't much care for the emphasis on local farmers being blamed, it could be anyone, including yourself, but mostly present this is majorly your fault for parking and going camping in a place where as you could have paid £10 for a more secure and legit camp site
There's always one, and on this occasion it was you
a farmer would not nick your bank card?
Says who ?
Oh that was a question
Interesting to see what camping culture is like in other countries. Thank you for sharing your experience.
This always worked for me, and here's why:
Here in Norway, I always talk to the land owner, farmer, or locals before I camp for the night. I introduce myself/us, our good intentions, and if they know a place we can discretely camp for the night. In 7 years of a lot camping, I've gotten good response everytime, except once. When I tell them that I have a tired lady friend coming behind me, they're especially accommodating.
I think it stems from an ancient tradition of hospitality to a wandering stranger. From Illiadic myths, to Havamal, to ancient Hindu stories, they all have the idea that the begging stranger should be elevated above the household, for a moment. The reasoning was that the stranger could be of divine origin. Odin, Jesus, blessing Athenia, etc. We see this live on in modern times. Afghan villagers protecting westerners from Taliban, even if it kills their own. That's praiseworthy.
It was however customary, if the wanderer outstayed their welcome by rudeness or staying more than a day, then the host was allowed to kill the guest.
The tradition of hospitality was quite honourable, jet capricious at the same same time to our eyes. Strange as it may be, this forthright method have worked for me in southern USA, Tehran, Ivory Coast, and at home.
Thank you and have a nice day.
Hello,
Its not always possible to know who owns the land or even where they live. In fact, most of the time I have no idea who owns what. You can't spend the evening searching. You want to get to a camp spot. In the UK there are next to no signs informing people who owns what and where. Im pretty sure these two young ladies didn't even know who to ask, short of waving the farmer on the quad over when they saw him, but they seemed a bit wary about that.
Cheers.
Landlord of the nearest pub will know for sure. Minor detour even rurally for peace of mind.
Does the signage say NO TRESPASSING?
So sorry to hear this awful news but glad you two are ok. The person who did this is clearly a coward they could have just politely asked you to move but instead did this stupid childish act. I hope this bad experience hasnt put you off wild camping you are an inspriration to many x
Thank you very much, yes we would have happily packed up and moved on. no it hasn't we will be back out there soon, and still have the rest of our holiday to out up soon 🙌
So you scraped a decently good car because it needed 4 new tyres = 120 and a new window screen £200 ? My mind boggles wish we could have a fix for stupid world would be a great place then
Shame to write off a decent car for that, it puts insurance up for cases like that
Am I missing something? It doesn't look a right off. Yes, 4 tyres and two glass screens, but surely they are easily replaced?
Thats criminal damage. They have no idea why the car was there: you couldve been broken down and at a bnb till the morning.
And if whoever it was saw you leaving with your camping gear and did know what you were doing the response would be to chase after you and ask you to move, or call the police for trespass, not take it upon themselves to smash up someones property. It IS childish.
Totally, totally unjustified criminal damage.
Who were the insurance company , no one wants to be insured by such a company
That's out of order. But remember just because a car can get in and out the gate doesn't mean large vehicles with trailers can. They need a lot more room. What a bummer.
Omg it was a small car, and there was a wide enough entrance, you could a 40 ft lorry.
Just rotten people out, especially leaving to young ladies stranded 😵😡😡.
I a grt believer in Karma
@@lizzrobb2313 haven't watched the video in a while . I'm sure when you came through the gate you had to go left or right on to a road. Therefore not possible for a 40f lorry to obtain access or leave with out the trailer squashing anything parked in the bit allowing the trailer to swing round. Which is my point exactly. Looks like enough room, unless you have an understanding how much room is needed and why it's needed.
Sorry this happened. I must say I would not have personally parked there at all. The gates had signs on saying no parking, which you read. You assume there was "enough room" if just yourself parked. But often farm access is for vehicles towing trailers and they need the room to turn. That is exactly why that "area" is made in that shape. It also makes it more dangerous for them when exiting onto the busy road as any parked car can block their view turning it into more of a blind junction. This is a problem when the farmer is trying to exit on his own with a big trailer behind (no one to stand outside and direct him or her). They need to see who is coming as early as possible, no blind spots caused by parked cars, or it could easily cause an accident. The best thing to do to find a good spot is to put in more sweat equity. The best spots generally involve more of a hike from the nearest legal parking spot. That farmer overreacted for sure and should not have done that but I can understand why they were angry over it. I also understand you did not mean harm. Maybe learn the more general lesson, rather than just avoiding that spot? Or it may happen again.
Hopefully she learns a lesson but from her attempts at defending her actions it might be that there is still a big gap between reality and her perception of it.
I sincerely hope you are okay?
What a terrible thing to do!
That is a very passive aggressive act.
You have to question what kind of crazy person did that?