Falcon Cap Is NO Black Panther Replacement
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- Опубліковано 17 чер 2024
- Captain America Brave New World is in its final set of reshoots and Disney have plenty riding on the movie. Disney and Marvel hope Falcon Cap can replicate Black Panther's success. But Falcon Cap is no Black Panther no matter how hard Disney, Marvel and the shill media try to will it. Anthony Mackie was awesome as Sam Wilson Falcon. But as shown in Falcon and The Winter Soldier he's got nothing good to work with in Falcon Cap. A rendition of Captain America that has been rejected multiple times. Wes talks about the latest developments for Captain America Brave New World and reminds Disney why Falcon Cap sucks. Falcon Cap is no Black Panther replacement.
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They want a BP replacement? They should have recast him like Chad wanted.
Exactly
Yes.
Truth
I don't know anyone who doesn't agree with that statement.
Exactly 💯. I think what is more insulting is casting a black guy to be Wonder Man when he could have been the next Black panther.
Steve Rogers is captain America
Sam Wilson is the falcon
Sam will never replace Steve , he’ll never be a better cap than Steve, the same goes for Miles Morales replacing Peter Parker and Jon Kent replacing Clark, it’ll never work
And I'd LOVE to see a TheFalcon movie 🍿
Not recasting a billion superhero was a big mistake.
Every time I see Falcon, I keep thinking it's A-train for a second lol
Captain America should have stayed a trilogy with three great entries, not many do.
Kevin feige needs to be released. He's been letting garbage cross the airwaves that no one wants to watch. After the MCU's last few movies and MCU tv series fiascos...feige has turned into the CB cebulski of the Marvel studios. It's time for a change.
Captain Falcoln is my favorite smash bros character. Glad Marvel is adapting him to the big screen. Its strange though, I don't remember Disney buying Nintendo.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Dang it, now I want to see Falcon doing a falcon punch.
Something I never understood about the Falcon/Winter Soldier show. During the blip, why does a schoolteacher with an Irish accent end up living in Estonia? Shouldn’t there be plenty of empty houses in her home country for her to squat in?
In 1991, Giancarlo Esposito came to the University of South Florida for a lecture and q&a. I've been a fan of his ever since. He played Yaphet Kotto's son on Homicide: Life on the Street.
Last week I watched The Maze Runner films. He played a key character in those.
“You’ve deviated too far off the characters, you’ve deviated too far off the core principles of the universe and all that stuff…” Facts! You can’t drastically alter the aspects of characters and series fans love and expect them to be happy & keep supporting you. If I went to my local Pizza Hut and they told me, “We’re only serving veggie wraps and egg salad sandwiches now,” I’d leave and go somewhere else for lunch. I’m still baffled why the comics thought there wouldn’t be backlash to Steve Rogers suddenly becoming a Hydra agent unless they thought the lunatics on Twitter reflected what the fan base wanted. Wait, what am I saying? That is what they thought. 🤦♀️
“Well, in the source material…” This would only be a valid argument if they hadn’t spent the past couple of years bragging that they hadn’t read the source material and were deliberately trying to avoid both source material & fan feedback/wishes. If I didn’t know better, I’d think Sam becoming Captain America in both the MCU and the comics was sheer coincidence. That’s how little the recent MCU writers have cared about the source material. It is funny how they made the MCU John Walker as interesting and complex as the comic book version by sheer accident, though.
Honestly, would've made more sense to have Dr. Strange be more of a leading role since his magic connected him to more characters and threats. Plus he can definitely carry his own. He did so against Tony Stark and the other Avengers in Infinity War.
I’m not confident based on how they botched The Falcon and The Winter Soldier. What we were promised was a buddy comedy which would also be meaningful and explore issues such as how The Blip affected ordinary people and how racism of the past still affects the present. What we got was Sam Wilson responding to being asked about terrorists, who had committed terroristic acts as part of a terror campaign, by saying they shouldn’t be called terrorists and their victims must have done something to deserve it (He didn’t word it that way, but yeah, the way he said, “Do better,” implied he thought the person he was talking to was to blame).
I talk about the “Don’t call them terrorists” line, but that’s not even the part that gets me the most. You want to know what part of TFATWS I hate the most? I heard there was a scene in which Bucky went to see a counselor for the numerous psychological issues he had from being an unwilling assassin for so long, and the counselor actually told him something like, “Well, since you killed all those people, you must have enjoyed it and you’re a terrible person.” (Jaw drops) Excuse me!?!?!? First off, does she not know he was mind-controlled and did not choose to do any of those things!?!? Second, this could be damaging to people in real life. There are numerous people in real life who need counseling, but are afraid to go because they think they won’t be believed, they’ll be judged, they’ll be blamed for being abused, they’ll be belittled and mocked, they’ll be called no better than their abusers, etc. With the mental health crisis as bad as it is, the last thing we need is a show with a character being treated like vile trash by the therapist he chose to trust.
I don’t mind having Sam or Bucky serving as Cap because it offers the chance to examine topics such as stepping up to fill a role and honoring a legacy. It has to be well done, though. A studio isn’t obligated to get my money. We’ll see if this and Thunderbolts are any good.
I partially agree, especially on the topic of men's mental health. This doesn't get talked about enough IMO.
True...... He not TChalla.....My worst fear they going turn Sam Wilson into Tim Scott.....
All the reshoots probably aren't the results of content. The reshoots are orchestrated to route money in some way to improve the write-off. They are probably scrambling with the actor and tech unions, trying to make sure everyone is covered financially before they bury the movie on Netflix.
As for the Hawkeye series, l noticed that it was photographed in a way that often characters are not shown while they were speaking. This makes it easier to dub and play for overseas audiences. This gives us a second-rate product. They don't care about us.
Recast T'Challa
I mean they gave all the good black actors terrible roles. Idris Elba was god damn Heimdall instead of Warmachine, like why would you cast Don Cheadle as war machine? the guy even when he is trying to be fit looks like a cancer patient, Anthony Mackey looks like a chihuahua and they casted him in the lead role of the whole thing. Yet they had Michael B Jordan in a one off role.
Had they been smarter with their casting and either got Jamie Foxx,Idris or Michael B in good roles it would be a different thing, but instead you got this guys. I mean can you still believe Jamie Foxx was casted as god damn Electro? a pointless raceswap and a waste of an amazing actor add Chiwetel to that list beng casted as Mordo of all characters he could have been a great cast for Black Panther, i like Chadwick but he looked far to young for Black Panther in my eyes, i always felt like like Black Panther looks more mature.
Elba was War Machine would have so god damn good, he could be the face of the whole thing now but no.
Chadwick was 40+. T'Challa is in 19 when he dons the mantle and late 20s to early 30s in the comics.
Bucky should've gotten the shield to continue his redemption arc.
So The Boys’ villain is now in the mcu?? Can’t wait for him to eventually be Ra’s A Ghul in The Batman 4.
Just knowing how badly this thing will be scrap booked let's me know that there is no hope for this film.
I can’t stand replacement heroes, the movies and the comics need to stop forcing them on us. Falcon is a great character on his own, but the higher ups have no faith on the marketability of him on his own so they have to us the Captain America name. Also, Black Panther is a great hero but his movie was nowhere as good as everyone acts like it was
Falcon was Cap in the comics. Black Panther was way better than Thor 2, Cap 1, Iron Man 3 and Spiderman Far from Home
@@bujindork Falcon was Cap for awhile. Then Steve Rodgers returned and no one cared or considered Falcon to be Cap. Yet Marvel still pushed it. Yet still no one cares.
Steve Rodgers will always be the quintessential Captain America. Same applies to Peter Parker being Spider-Man.
I do agree that Black Panther movie is better than the movies you listed. But the hyperbole and cultural phenomenon surrounding the movie was due to the time. "Wokeness" was at an all time high. Especially among black fandom on social media. Half of Black America went to go see Black Panther. That alone made Black Panther the highest domestic( money made in America) grossing MCU movie.
You had most of non geek normie Americans saying Wakanda forever. Yet they were not buying the comic books and action figures lol.
@@DamackismLol Falcon is Captain America again in the comics right now even though Steve is currently also Captain America. And obviously, Black people were gonna go watch a film about the most well known Black superhero whether we lived in the "woke era" or not.
@@bujindork Falcon being Captain America in the comics should only be a temporary thing for a storyline, but Marvel and Disney won’t give up their pandering ways. The Black Panther movie was good but not great like the hype around it would make it seem. I agree it’s a better movie than the ones you listed except for Captain America 1
@brianelam9297 is not all white heroes pandering also. Pandering goes both ways we've just been conditioned to think it's only to minorities because pandering to whites is the default but it's the same thing. The future of the US is non white and tolerant. Disney is just thinking ahead like any smart business will do. Being ahead of the curve is their job and it does come with growing pains.
Bucky should have been given the shield and Sam should have stayed Falcon.....simple
Patriot imo but thats just me. He is a Super Soldier of the Young Avengers and has always had Steve's back in the comics. But Bucky Cap was pretty cool too
Would have loved to have seen the REAL Cap in the original Sleeper storyline but that kind of coolness. Fun. Drama, entertainment, and comic book greatness is out of the question now... Isn't it?
It's PATHETIC how Marvel Studios keeps EPIC FAILing to get its scriptwriters to submit a good story BEFORE they begin filming! That's like a construction company EPIC FAILing to get an architect to submit a complete blueprint BEFORE it begins construction, which will force the company to halt construction, dismantle its old work, and REPEATEDLY rebuild, delaying completion and inflating the budget!
Do Marvel Studios' filmmakers no longer have the ability to DO THEIR JOBS?
And he never will be the difference is that black panther is actually an original black character with his own identity and rogues gallery and sam is just a token version of steve rogers and will probably have his enemies as well disney marvel is clearly out of touch
Black panther have a rogues gallery?
Also the new suit looks worse than the last one, at least the last one was original this new suit is just Steve’s
I was watching a supergirl clip of season two. And I gotta say, the Daxam invasion had potential.
Sebastian Stan as Cap and Anthony Mackie as Falc should have been the plan moving forward. DEI ruined all that, and see where we are…
Bucky being Cap would make no sense. He killed Anthony Stark, the creator of the shield. The only good Cap in the films is Steve.
@@scinnyc The years-long Ed Brubaker run on Captain America was both critically-acclaimed and did extremely well saleswise. In fact, it was so good that the MCU copied it almost beat for beat (with a lil’ Millar/Hitch Ultimates thrown in for good measure), leading up to Bucky’s redemption and his taking up the legacy of Captain America. In the comic, Falc, Fury, and the Widow helped Bucky through these endeavors, keeping tabs on him and mentoring him along the way. Bucky’s metal arm gave him the ability to wield the shield effectively. And both his Army and assassin training made him an excellent replacement Cap.
@@SpiritOfBagheera That's the comics...we're talking about the films. I personally didn't like Bucky as Cap. And I initially thought that Falcon was a lame Captain America too until I read the All-New Captain America series which was actually pretty good. But I always felt that Ian Rogers (Steve's adopted son) should've taken up the mantle in the comics
I'd LOVE a TheFalcon movie, this makes no sense 🦅🎥
I always liked Falcon as himself instead of a hand me down Cap.
I got to keep saying you can reboot to the cows come home and it won't make a difference if the same creatives are in place. If I was Marvel Disney I will be trying to rehire the Russos or hire creatives like them.
Is the “character” that murdered Iron Man’s parents worthy of being redeemed?
Never had a problem with the the actors and hence the characters bowing out of the movies. One of the more grinding things in comics is the whole "Nobody ever dies" thing. If Disney had been thinking ahead they could have planned around the eventual departure of their core actors/heroes. They didn't. What does a world without Iron Man, Cap, Thor and the rest look like? Do people feel like they still have protectors or do they not have the confidence in the new guys and hence the first film is them earning and reaffirming that trust and faith. That could be a good story. Disney just has no interest in telling it.
Not even close. The remender stuff in the comics was solid, just go read that
EXCELLENT WORK. WES
GREAT THINKING CRITICAL DISNEY'S MARVEL STUDIOS BLACK PANTHER BETTER THAN FALCON CAP
I’m just shocked anyone is still watching any of these movies, it’s a complete waste of your time. Go watch anime, or if you won’t do that just rewatch old movies, you’ve got decades of great movies to watch.
It's gonna bomb: 1) people don't like "the mantle" Captain America, they like Steve Rogers Captain America, 2) folks will doubt the movie is well-written.
Didnt we just have an Xmen series where Professor X was the "bad guy"? Maybe Giancarlo will be Xavier 🤣🤣🤣
Honestly i agree with alot of what you said. However, in regards to Falcon as Cap in the books i think if his run had a better writer like Bucky's did with Ed Brubaker than Sam's story could have worked just as well. Steve giving Sam the Mantle like he did Bucky is something he would do because he has that much faith in him after working with him for so long. Personally i don't like Sam or Bucky as Cap long term. But Steve having one of them fill in for him in a short run if done right, yeah im ok with that.
Giancarlo's been typecast though.
Off topic good news today: Zeb Wells final arc on TASM confirmed as TASM #58. We're nearly there thankfully. Worst comic book run I've ever read.
Black Panther in terms or sales or in terms of cultural relevance… neither will come to pass.
Wish the shield went to Bucky Barnes. Bucky Cap is so much better than Falcon Cap.
Yes, Bucky kills the creator of the shield but then later becomes Captain America🤡😆
Black folks just want a new Black Panther movie that leads into a new Avenger Movie... Falcon Cap is not the way...
Falcon Cap was dumb as hell in the comics, and it's even worse for the mcu.
Falcon is a cool character. I would prefer if Sam stayed Falcon. If Chris Evans doesn't want to portray the character anymore just leave Captain America out until the whole thing is rebooted. Their focus on replacing iconic characters, (Kate Bishop, Ironheart, etc.), and lack of a planned storyline are major problems . They are adding a female Silver Surfer, (which was canon for about 2 seconds and didn't do well). Captain Marvel was a man for many years. They drove away their main customer base and have the gall to act surprised. We love the iconic characters and want good stories where we aren't being lectured at. I guess we will sit back and watch them continue to destroy themselves. Their unwavering focus on destroying their company is incredible.
There's always going to be some reshoots but this film has had enough to make a whole second movie lol
“The message”
More like Captain America: Naive New World 😄
At this point nobody should even be mad anymore STOP SUPPORTING THEM PERIOD!
Well Duh even the nerfed Edgeless and no Super Genius TChalla is better then Falcon.
These all new all different characters just don’t work. Marvel need to soft reboot back to proven winners like Cap and Stark. And fix the issues with BP, Hulk and Thor. Thor needs to be dark fantasy. Hulk needs to be scary and not Starks sidekick and TChallas needs his super genius and edge
People keep saying that in Phase 1, 2, 3 there were always bad movies. And sure, but that was the beginning. You can't treat an existing project like its new, I am afraid that steam has run out. Just as Captain Marvel movie did extremely well because it released a year after IW, it only did so because of the hype. If superhero movies continue to bomb, then we may not even get to the reboot.
And everything now affects everything else, if F4 in 2025 bombs, it'll affect Superman, and vice versa.
But a thing I'll never understand is why focus on these boring movie ideas. We're 2 years away from "Kang Dynasty" if it's even gonna be called that, but Avengers 5 nonetheless, and then it'll be 7 years since Endgame with nothing to show for it. We had a teaser in Far From Home about a Skrull invasion, of course that led to that god awful show and Nick Fury fing an alien. Maybe that should have been the focus instead of random movies like Shang Chi or Thunderbolts or Cap 4, Wakanda Forever, Antman3. And people talk about Doom or this or that, but even Kang supposedly a villain that made an appearance as early as 2021 in Loki is not built up, it's just so random. I don't know who asked for these movies.
And well movies cost a gazillion times more to make than a comic, if a comic fails, whatever it's a calculated risk, if movies that cost 200-400mil to make bomb constantly then the MCU is done for.
If they want other black super hero characters who are unique individuals, there are plenty. Just off the top of my head, they can use...
1. Night Thrasher (Dwayne Taylor)
2. Shotgun
3. G.W. Bridge
4. Slyde (Jalome Beecher, more of an anti-hero)
5. The Rocket Racer (Robert "Robbie" Farrell)
6. The Prowler (Hobart "Hobie" Brown)
7. Deathlok (Michael Collins)
8. Rage (Elvin Halliday)
9. Hammer (cyborg from the Six Pack)
and 10. Officially show Luke Cage in the M.C.U.
If they can't seem to figure out how to continue with Sam Wilson, James Rhodes, the Black Panther and Blade, then these ten characters, none of which are even mutants, just superhumans and humans, can be used to full effect without any problems. Marvel Studios and Disney are both just making up stupid excuses about what they can't do in the Marvel Cinematic Universe when it's pretty obvious that they can actually do a lot, they just don't want to.
Shotgun is a villain usually.
@@EvandroACruzHe is a merc. He is bad or good depending on the assigned mission. Just like Deadpool and Deathstroke. The only loyalty they have is money. You buy their loyalty, it's bought.
@@incubustimelord5947 Deathstroke is complete evil. Always was.
@@EvandroACruz Do you understand what a mercenary is? They can be evil or good depending on the job. Deathstroke the Terminator is only as evil as he needs to be for the assignment. If his mission calls for him to not be a brutal, ruthless fighter, then he follows the contract. Soldiers of fortune are not beholden to any alignment of good or evil. They are simply doing a job. One day they are nice and being someone's bodyguard. The next day they are being mean and trying to assassinate somebody. It's not personal. It's just business.
@@incubustimelord5947 Kill people for money is wrong and is evil. I love Deathstroke character but Slade always was a evil bastard. He wanna corrupt young heroes and always come back to screw with the Teen Titans. He's a villain not a anti-hero. At this point DC make this very clear.
If they want a Black Panther replacement they should have looked no further than Luke Cage.
Awesome work mate
It's CAPTAIN DO-BETTER...or CAPTAIN A-TRAIN! Take your pick.
I don't intend to watch this movie. I don't liked of the ending of Captain America And The Winter Soldier. MCU need to hurry your reboot.
Mackie doesn't really have the charisma to carry the film. NBC's Twisted Metal proved that. It wasn't horrible but it also wasn't good either.
What difference?
Falcon is a great character. I never understand why marvel made him cap. It's bs
Do you think he becomes Obama at the end, the same way the real Cap became Biden at the end of Endgame!
Of course he isn't. Panther is a legacy, but not simply a hand-me-down, knockoff of the more popular hero. And again, the lame marketing dictates that I support this, since now, Captain America "looks like me". I'm still insulted by this kind of mantle swap, not giving the character an organic push, but trying to syphon main event energy, from the the established guy. It reeks of "Let's let the poor kids play". I would've given the thing a chance, if Falcon, Sam Wilson, was just carrying on, after his friend passed. He was good, as himself, in Winter Soldier, Ultron, and Civil War. Just push that guy. No? We just get the knockoff? Great.
And before the "self hater" group thinks they found one, no. I wasn't into white to white swaps, either. I think Dick Grayson, OG Robin/Nightwing has been a good character, in his own right, overall. When they said he's the new Batman, I was out. He'll never be Bruce. But that's okay. Be Nightwing. I don't want to hear that symbol nonsense. Batman is a symbol, an institution, but having Nightwing cosplaying as Batman, just ticked me off. Just be yourself. No, he's not Batman. Nobody can follow that. Terry was a different circumstance. The brief time they tried Ben Reilly, Bucky, Jon Kent, Mon El, Artemis, Roy Harper as Red Arrow, Donna and Hippolyta as Wonder Woman, even robots, like Rodimus Prime. They couldn't get over, in large part, because their whole identity, was trying to copy a big name, from before. It's lazy, trying to earn clout, from the main event star. "But look, guys, we changed the color scheme, a bit!".
It'll bomb, they'll call everyone racist, even those of us who should "feel seen", rinse and repeat.
The most important question about this movie: is Seth Rollins still in it, lol
I don't think this actors fault its more likley the director fault
I don't know why they didn't just make john walker(US Agent) replace cap-he may be an asshole, but at least it isn't the race swapping shit Disney have been doing.
False Cap is just bad.. Ground the falcon. Smh
Should fans Falcon Punch Marvel?
Every replacement story done with Steve Rogers (and the one done in the 1980's where he became the The Captain, John Walker became Captain America, and the Red Skull was behind it all) always reaffirms that not just anyone can be Captain America. If you do Falcon Cap to show that then you've got a good story. But otherwise it's not going to work. We have all said it before. Black Panther is his own character....Falcon Cap is a amalgamation that doesn't work. I still want to know how you justify additional millions to budget without knowing how much more revenue it will bring in? It sounds like a break even proposition even if it would do well at the theatres. And let me be clear on something else...the value of Captain America has nothing to do with his skin color. That is part of the fallacy of trying to replace Black Panther with Falcon Cap. Everyone...regardless of their genetic origin...respects and sees Steve Rogers as the embodiment of what America represents. They don't give a shit about skin color...only the people in Hollywood who can't understand what a hero is and why people identify with said character think skin color plays a role. So go ahead and try cause you are only going to fail because you don't understand the subject matter to begin with. WTF20.
Doomed. The movie is doomed.
Harrison Ford just can't catch a break, shit show after shit show, Star Wars, Indiana Jones, now this.. man, retire already.
I'm sorry, let's just be real: Anthony Mackie has all the charisma of an old dirty dish rag. He doesn't hold a candle next to Chadwick Boseman. They should have kept him in his lane as second banana instead of trying so hard to make him a thing.