Teltonika RUTX12 Dual modem router - Ultimate Mobile Internet - Campervan Motorhome RV Caravan
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In this video we review the latest Teltonika RUTX12 LTE Router, is it really the ultimate mobile internet solution?
#digitalnomad #mobileinternet #mobilewifi
We’ve shared budget-friendly Mobile Internet in our earlier videos, which did us pretty well - and the RUT955 that we use for working on the road.
Teltonika have leant us this RUTX12 to see what we thought of it.
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Thanks for such a thorough review and comparison of our products! You've put everything so simple and easy to understand - we are impressed!
We are very glad to know you like our devices and really enjoy watching your videos!
I got myself a Maxview (with RUT240) recently. The internet connection however is extreme slow and I cannot find any solution to fix it. Can I get in direct contact with someone to help me to solve this unfortunate situation?
Tx.
I’d suggest having a chat with Maxview as you have paid for their support by buying their rebranded product. As it could be down to their packaged antenna rather than the router.
@@ExploreVanUK
Have done that already and guess what, blame it on the router. I am getting full sim- signal strength on the router but slow internet connection.
Well as they supplied the router as a package (at a very high cost compared to buying separately) I’d still be asking them to sort it.
Have you tried different locations / Cell Towers, what network are you on?
Have you tried other networks?
There are lots of variables and the only advantage I have ever seen from buying one of the branded “motorhome” packages is they should be providing you the support to make sure it is delivering what they promise.
I’d make them fulfil that rather than let them pass you off.
I just ordered a RUTX12 and I'm looking forward to setting it up in our van! Thanks for this video ;)
Hope you enjoy it!
This was the kind of technical review I was looking for.
Great job on the illustration for people who aren't familiar with terminology!
Thanks - Glad it was useful!
Excellent video and you've confirmed my choice for an upcoming MiFi installation, thanks.
Regarding mounting the RUTX12, I've found out that Teltonika supply a two-piece plastic wall mounting that slides into the DIN rail slot on the casing top and bottom for an easy wall mounting solution.
Great stuff! That’s a top tip thanks!
Thanks for the advice. I'd never heard of Teltonika previously and was ready to install a netgear router. I have just fitted an RUTX14 with a Poynting Mimo antenna and am getting excellent results so far. Given that I am able to work from my van so long as I have a good signal it has opened up the options massively.
That's great to here - I've got an RUTX14 on test at the moment and I've been really impressed too. VIdeo to come shortly!
@@ExploreVanUK look forward to seeing what you think 🙂
Also I am returning the RUT240 and have got the RUTX11 now, which I’ll be installing this weekend when I receive it 😊
After my experience with the X12 I think you’ll like it! 👍
@@ExploreVanUK thank you 😊
@@ExploreVanUK I have now installed the RUTX11 and the WiFi and speed has improved, I can now get WiFi about 20-30Meters away from the van and inside the van is great WiFi 😊
Happy days! Great news!
I have many problem with my RUTX12. I sent it back twice after it resrted it would not turn on. After 1.2 year its now done the same thing Teltonika told me i have to buy a new one. I am not looking for something else other then Teltonika. Shame really liked it when it worked.
That doesn't sound like a good experience. Thankfully with both the RUT955 and RUTX12 we've not had any issues.
It may be worth putting details on to the Teltonika Crowd Support Forum community.teltonika-networks.com/ if you haven't already - I have found the community very useful with tips and advice. Others more technical than me may be able to suggest somethings to try. I have had a quick look but I can't see anything similar that others have experienced already on there.
I think I would also be having discussions with your retailer to put pressure on Teltonika as it doesn't reflect well on them either.
I watched several of your videos about Teltonika routers Routx12 and Routx955 with interest. You demonstrate on the boards access to free wifi. In this video, it's at 1:54min. How to add a WiFi network as WAN in the ROUTX12 router? There, there is no WiFi option, only LAN1, LAN2, and LAN.
Hi on the RUTX12 you can create a WiFi “Client” connection in the Wireless set up page.
When adding a wireless connection select the Mode as “Client” rather than “AP” (Access Point). This will then allow you to scan for available WiFi connections and login to them.
You can see more detailed instructions in the Teltonika Wiki here. wiki.teltonika-networks.com/view/RUTX12_Wireless#Client_Mode
Hope that helps.
@@ExploreVanUK Yes, thank you very much. Somehow I couldn't find it!"
great vid mate
Hi,
First off, love the channel so please take this as constructive. I'm not sure the price difference between this and your review of the 955 warrants the X12. You were blown away by the former but the latter seems to add "not much". Am I missing something?
Keep em coming tho'
John
Thanks! Very happy for constructive questions and it’s a very fair point the 955 is a great unit.
Where the X12 stands apart is the fact that it has two modems that run simultaneously, rather the 955s one modem that can switch between 2 SIM cards (so only able to use one connection at a time). As the modems in the X12 are Cat6 rather than the Cat4 of the 955 also improves the potential speed through carrier aggregation add the 5Ghz WiFi that the 955 doesn’t have and there is quite a lot of extra features / performance for the money.
However it does depend what you want to use it for as to whether it’s worth it. For most uses I would say the 955 is plenty, it’s a great stable unit with lots of flexibility and is built like a brick.
But if always having the best speed you can get wherever you can without messing around, if you run the X12 with 2 different network SIM cards simultaneously aggregating the band bandwidth from each it does make life on the road with a good high speed connection much more likely.
@@ExploreVanUK I can see where you are coming from and will hold my tongue as I don't even have a motorhome at present. I'm looking to go full time later this year and whilst I think I have a healthy budget, there are other parts of my ideal van that will demand resources too. I am interested in getting good IT/Comms kit especially as I work "from home" quite a bit but don't want to wander into the bleeding edge of IT. Maybe by the time I get my van things will be clearer.
Keep up the good work and thank you for the reply :-)
John
It's a real shame that none of the RUTX has a global version, only because of that I'm really considering to get a RUT955
Wow that’s awesome, when you said lent you the rutx12 does that mean you would keep it or return it back?
If I hadn’t already bought the 955 I’d have paid the extra for the RUT360, X11 or X12.
It will be hard to give it back!
Thanks for this very informative video; does the router handles the US / Canada and South America mobile phone standards ?
best wishes, Mark
They have two versions one for North America and one for Europe/ Middle East / Africa / Australia / Asia Pacific / Brazil / Malaysia.
So I suspect one that would work in North America wouldn’t work on all the bands in South America. Though it may work on some.
You can see the frequency bands for each version on page 9 of this document.
teltonika-networks.com/downloads/en/rutx12/RUTX12_Datasheet-v1.0.pdf
Excellent video as was the 955 one. However in neither video do you mention the amount of power the units use. Could you please give some info on this please?
Hi - the power consumption will vary on a number of factors. eg LTE signal strength / power - number of devices connected, GPS refresh rate, if remote logging is switched on, if devices are connected to LAN etc.
But average power consumptions are:
RUTX12 - 3 watts to 12 watts
RUT955 - 1.8 watts to 8 watts
Obviously the current will depend on the voltage you are using to power it, as it can run on anything from 9v to 30v
But if 12 volts that will equate to roughly
RUTX12 0.25 Amps to 1 Amps
RUT955 0.15 Amps to 0.7 Amps
@@ExploreVanUK Thank you.
Great video I have the X11 and am considering the 12. When demoing the dual sim functionality was that using 1 single antenna or 2 antennas across the 4 ports on the back?
Hi, it was using two separate MiMo antennas.
Does work really well when you’ve got both modems running especially if you have different network sims in each.
Ouch, that's a lot of money. I don't need that level of sophistication.
I agree it’s probably not one for the masses. But if working on the road or being connected is important it’s a great solution.
Also when you compare to the £300 - £400+ of the “Motorhome” branded systems that some seem happy to pay for, where the system is nothing more than a low end LTE router and an external antenna, from my perspective this gives far more performance and features for the money and you’re not getting ripped off because it has a “motorhome” sticker on it.
Take a look at some of our other videos for mid range and lower end budget solutions for the casual user.
Great video, if you just had 1 sim card in would both modems still work and make the speed faster or do you need 2 sims for that? Thanks.
Each sim card has its own modem so you would need two sim cards to use them both. If you are only using one sim card take a look at the RUT360 which has a single modem.
I'm having issues with failover set up with my RUT955. Please help me
So could you bond wifi + 4g for a better and safer connection for live streams??
You can set it to load share across WiFi and 4G, however I suspect it won’t split a single task across the two, just combine the two networks and split different tasks across them, I don’t know how live streams network so can’t say if it would split multiple elements across the two available networks or not.
It’s been about 1.5 weeks now on the RUTX11 router. We are both about to start working full time on the road, so we are getting a second sim to make sure we have signal all over Scotland etc. I also want to know how to set up WiFi so that i can set up the WiFi speed to be strong while we are working etc. Also the fall over would be nice to know how to set it up etc
Take a look at my video on RUT955 as although the interface isn’t quite the same the settings for the X11 will be similar.
It shows the way we have WiFi set up with different access points and the fail over.
As we had the X12 running with both connections on all the time we didn’t have it set to fail over.
There are lots of guides on the Teltonika Wiki that show how to set up the different features.
wiki.teltonika-networks.com/view/RUTX11
These videos step by steps setting up fail over.
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@@ExploreVanUK awesome thank you, I hope the RUTX11 has the same future as the RUTX12. As in no delay in fell over etc
Hi, I suspect you will see a similar delay as the 955, as the X11 only has one modem so it has to disconnect SIM 1 and then reconnect with SIM2.
The no delay switch over on the X12 is because it has two modems running continuously (which is why it’s more expensive)
Hi there. Great review! This router might be just what we need. Am I right in thinking that in a low signal situation where one network(sim) is struggling to provide enough bandwidth for a given task i.e. a video call, that the RUTX12 can use the netork on the other (sim) at the same time to increase bandwidth? I got the impression that it could but I have been told by someone that having 2 modems is purely to eliminate the delay when switching between them. Thanks
Hi thanks, glad it was useful. It is correct that when set to “Fail Over” it will switch almost instantaneously from one mobile network to the other, which is an improvement on a dual Sim single modem model which take 30secs to a Minute.
But it is also correct that If the configuration is set to “Load Balance” it will aggregate the bandwidth of both mobile networks into your local network therefore increasing the bandwidth available.
It is worth noting however that I don’t think it is able to split a single task across the two networks. So your video call would not have the combined bandwidth available just for it. But as in all likelihood you would have multiple network tasks running it would allocate these across the 2 mobile networks to make more bandwidth available on one of the networks for the video call.
Hope that makes sense, it’s quite hard to put it words so let me know if it doesn’t.
@@ExploreVanUKThanks! I really appreciate you taking the time to reply, and yes that makes total sense. It sounds like it definatley would be worth going for then . We live on a narrowboat and move around the canal network in mainly rural locations. My girlfriend runs a business and is regularly hitting issues working from the boat on our current setup (Huawei R216 plus mimo antenna) as she needs to do multiple video meetings each day. We generally find streaming and music tv ok, but its the Teams meetimgs that are the main problem. Hoping that upgradimg to some more serious kit will do the trick.
Can you reccommend a good pole mount antenna to go with? Ive been looking at the QuSpot, which im sure is good but I'm not keen of having the router outside for security, hot/cold, and the possible need for an extra wireless access point if the wifi cant penetrate the hull.
Hi, No problem at all.
From an Antenna point of view - I think I would look to go with the QuSpot for the following reasons:
- It will eliminate any LTE antenna cable loss and cost (which if you are pole mounting is likely to be reasonable due to the length of antenna cable you would need)
- You need a 4x4 MiMo antenna to cover both modems (Which the QuSPot for the RUTX12 has) - most other antennas you would need to have 2 2x2 Mimo antennas - which then causes challenges with mounting both, cable for both and interference between the two.
- You are right getting the WiFi signal into the boat may be an issue, but as the Quspot comes with support for Power Over Ethernet injector - you would only have to run a single Ethernet cable to the unit giving the router power and providing a cabled data connection (which could be an advantage when using Teams - eliminating any WiFi loss) adding a relatively cheap Wifi Router in the boat will then provide you a good WiFi and the chance of multiple wired ports for those critical high bandwidth devices.
It does add a bit of complexity but I think for your use it is justified.
An alternative you may want to look at is the Poynting A-EPNT-0004-17 which is similar to the QuSpot - I've not tried it but have had good experience with Poynting Antennas.
(Don't forget you can get 10% off these and the router with our EXPLOREVAN discount code at Solwise.co.uk)
Yeah i can see why the QuSpot is a good idea in theory. I just feel a bit insecure about having such an expensive router outside. Id also worry i tcould overheat in summer, though it does say it can handle upto 75 deg so who knows. Poynting do do a 4x4 XPol Mimo so maybe ill try that 1st. Thanks agian for your advice!
Good evening great video, I have a question regarding the power connection to the RUTX12 unit. Was it connected to a 240v power from outside the van for the test ?. Or would you be using the 12v from the van, if 12v was used please could you explain how I can connect this into my van. Many thanks
Hi, thanks glad it was useful.
It was connected to the 12v leisure battery in the van.
The RUTX12 runs on any voltage between 9 volts and 50 volts.
You can either cut the cord off the mains power supply that comes with it and connect to your battery.
Or you can buy an extra lead like this.
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The connections for the plug are detailed here wiki.teltonika-networks.com/view/RUTX12_Powering_Options
@@ExploreVanUK Thank you for the quick reply, I have already fitted a MIMO-3-17 antenna to my van, so now I will order the RUTX12 , now knowing I can install this with your recommendation. Many thanks for your help.
No problem! It’s a great set up!
@@ExploreVanUK I can't wait to get it up and running!. I will keep you posted with the outcome.
Hi, Great video and I have a question. Any idea on how many antennas you need to connect to the '12' so it can simultaneously connect to two cellular networks?
Hi! Thanks!
The X12 comes with 4x single mobile antennas, 2x WiFi antennas and 1x GPS antenna.
There are lots of antenna options you could use.
The Poynting MIMO-3-17 would give you everything you need in one unit.
Or you could go with something like the the Puck 5 and an additional Puck 2 for the second modem.
Hope that makes sense.
Feel free to drop me a message via our website if you want to discuss in more detail as it could get quite complicated.
@@ExploreVanUK Sure does and thank you for taking the time to answer my question.
Sure does and thank you for taking the time to answer my question.
Also have a look at the Mako 5g Dome from Panorama Aerials. It has 4x4 MIMO for LTE/5g and also up to 6x6 MIMO for Wi-Fi distribution. Let us know which you go for and review please.
@@TreeWorksUK that recommendation looked good but I can't find a uk seller who shows a price on their site. I make a point of avoiding 'ask for a quote' sites like the plague as I've found it's indicative of the way they trade. Thanks for the input though Greg.
Any chance they will send you a RUTX14? It was released a few months ago and has CAT12 - supposedly upto twice the speed of CAT6
You never know.
But it’s likely to only be comparable to the Dual Cat6 modems running in load balancing in the RUTX12 and you would be reliant on the network / tower supporting Cat12 and the bandwidth being available.
I tend to think we’re getting to the point where the bottle neck is now the network rather than the modem. Without improved network capacity (especially in the U.K.) it’s unlikely to matter how good the modem is.
A great modem sadly can’t magic more bandwidth from the network.
In my experience the Cat6 modems have provided plenty of bandwidth for our use (when it’s available from the network)
Can I ask a really stupid question? Can I connect a old fashion land line telephone to it and make / receive calls or is a data sim card just that ?
Hi, not a stupid question at all. You can’t connect a standard landline phone to it.
But you could connect an IP phone it and use a service like Skype.
Alternatively if your mobile provider offers WiFi calling you could use your mobile through the router.
Hello, I have used a RUT955 router and had disappointing results whilst roaming ie changing countries (my smartphone works great on same provider).....maybe it has been badly configured; i am thinking of upgrading to RUTX11 may i ask about your international roaming experiences or perhaps you can help in reconfiguring my RUT955? Thanks in advance Steve
Hi Steve, depending on your phone, which is probably more modern and more expensive than your RUT955, you will likely find there are areas where it will perform better due to having a more modern modem. This tends to be in areas where the signal is good and the phone can use multiple frequencies to get greater band width.
You will get some of this benefit with the RUTX11 as it has a category 6 modem rather than the Category 4i n the RUT955.
Where the routers come into their element is when the signal is poor and you have low or even no signal on your phone, the routers are much more likely to pull in a usable signal.
The key thing to be sure of when roaming is that the APN is set correctly for your home network, if you want to drop us a note via the contact form on our website we can have a more detailed chat just to make sure your RUT955 is set up as best as it can be.
Hope that helps
Mike
@@ExploreVanUK Hi Mike thanks for your reply. I had indeed set up APN to my home network provider (in France ) and whilst roaming it was indeed teaming up with Italian providers as i travelled. Performance was much much better in the north and as progressing south performance got worse i guess due to quality of signal the dual modem should help enormously. I am now thinking to go a step further and buy a RUTX12. I am very grateful for you comments. I will let you know how I get on with the latest 'flagship'
all that's best Steve
Did it give any faster download speeds compared to the RUT955?
Yep there is a comparison table in the video.
Hi, I am looking to connect a RUTX11 to a Wifi portal in a marina. The Wifi network of the marina has a portal and requires a password, but is not encrypted. How do I connect the RUTX11? I.e. how do I prompt the marina network to ask for the login password?
Hi, it might depend how the Marina have their network set up but where we have had to do similar on campsites the following has worked.
1. Connect your device to Router as normal.
2. Set up the Connection from the Router settings to connect the router to the Marinas Open WiFi.
3. Once connected, on your device navigate to the login page URL (you may need to get this from the Marina or copy it from your device when connecting it direct to the Marina WiFi as it may not open automatically)
4. This may then allow you to access the portal to authenticate the connection with the Login and Password from the Marina.
Hope that helps, do bear in mind that by the Marina having an open WiFi network, your data is not encrypted between your router and the Marina so is at risk of interception, therefore I would strongly recommend using a VPN service to encrypt it.
NB just remembered if you have the "DNS rebind attack protection" on in the advanced settings this may stop you.
Having this switched off may also allow the portal screen to open automatically.
@@ExploreVanUK many thanks! Much appreciated! Will try that!
What I found is that in addition to what you suggested, I had to change the 2.4GHz network‘s operating frequency to „Legacy“, i.e to 802.11bgn. With that the connection is now very stable.
Annoying, just got the RUT955.
Hello again, I have received my RUTX12 and upon opening I started to suspect it had been 'previously owned' and therefore an Amazon return. All in excellent condition however. On connecting it to the van and attempting to log in I got 'incorrect password' returns for the classic admin01 inputs. I tried factory resets several times but to no avail. Do you have a secret way round this before I to return it to Amazon?
Thanks in advance IOU Steve
No worries. You should be able to factory reset it by pressing the reset button (with the little pin tool) for 5 seconds. However if it is used it’s possible that the configuration has been changed to increase the 5 seconds in which case hold it until all the signal strength LEDs are lit.
Once reset the default login should be
Default Address (LAN IP): 192.168.1.1
Default Username: admin
Default Password: admin01
@@ExploreVanUK Thank you for your kindness. that didn't work. I no longer share your enthusiasm for Teltonika routers. I shall be returning this to amazon as soon as possible. I am enjoying your vids and site ....thanks again Steve
That’s a shame hope you find something that works for you. 👍
Hi. Can I use the discount code for the RUTX14 ?
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If it doesn’t work do let me know and I’ll check with them.
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Good tech review 👍💙❤️
Thank you 👍
wow thats very very expensive for van use and hard to justify with far more functions most folk would need for daily use
Yep agreed, might not be for the casual user, check out our other videos for more budget / mid range options we’ve tried.
We, like a good proportion of subscribers, spend quite a bit of time in our van including working from it, so we’re happy to share the full range of what’s available.
When you compare this to the £300 - £400+ of the “Motorhome” branded systems that some seem happy to pay for, where the system is nothing more than a low end LTE router and an external antenna, from my perspective this gives far more performance and features for the money and you’re not getting ripped off because it has a “motorhome” sticker on it.
@@ExploreVanUK Hey, thanks for responding. I do appreciate what you say and I've watched your other videos on most subjects including wifi so I would go down the more basic cheaper route but just had to say WOW to the price lol. I enjoy your videos and have saved some of them for when I am ready for my fit out so thanks for all the information given in the past.