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  • @nothingsurprisesmeanymore
    @nothingsurprisesmeanymore Рік тому +23

    How come you can buy a complete 73kwh car for less than one of those 63kwh batteries? So that's the entire car for €40k. Someone's taking the piss somewhat.

    • @John_thetrader
      @John_thetrader 3 місяці тому +1

      they have to sell higher price...to keep the company in profit...less sales means higher prices to brake even... where cars are in higher demand, higher production numbers and so lower margin requierd on each produces product to make the same amount of brake even...

    • @nothingsurprisesmeanymore
      @nothingsurprisesmeanymore 3 місяці тому

      @@John_thetrader the overall cost of the boat is a lot higher I understand but selling a battery for 400%+ profit is pure greed.

  • @ericg2167
    @ericg2167 3 місяці тому

    No one burned alive. Good video. Love how quiet it is and doesn't cost more than my home.

  • @TJDST4
    @TJDST4 Рік тому +8

    I'm just here to read the comments from the haters.

    • @dasworkshop4967
      @dasworkshop4967 4 місяці тому

      Haters or realists? have you heard of the massive numbers of new hydro-electric dams, coal fired power plants, nuclear power stations, and other energy grid improvements to support all the promised electrification? No, you haven't, and you aren't supposed to ask questions regarding the practicality, you are supposed to drink in the narrative the WEF and their underlings want you to believe, and nothing else. Eventually you "true believers" will wake up and realise it was never about the climate, the weather or the Planet, it has been and always will be about control. Look, we've been very patient with you to figure this stuff out, most of us had our minds made up by the British Government in their response to the East Anglia email controversy. If case you've forgotten, someone hacked the East Anglia email system and disclosed email threads between the "climate scientists" on how best to manipulate the data to create the illusion "climate science" predictions were showing up in real world measurements, because of course none of their predictions are possible, it's all garbage. So what did the British government do? They claimed the released emails were invalid because they weren't voluntarily released in a public statement. They told us to ignore scientists plotting how to mislead the World, because the evidence was gathered illegaly. That might be the case in the court of law, but not in the court of purposefully mileading the World. Please educate yourselves.

  • @brentmeg922
    @brentmeg922 Рік тому +4

    Saving the planet…two batteries at a time.

  • @fly2crawl
    @fly2crawl 6 місяців тому +2

    interesting how the gear train and prop stands out so much without the engine noise. I would love to see this setup with a Sharrow propeller.

  • @Svendskommentar
    @Svendskommentar Рік тому +1

    Happy New Year and thanks for a good one. :)

  • @Blanchy10
    @Blanchy10 Рік тому +5

    Ok for a lake boat but where I am (Australia) that range is not adequate.

  • @SouthAuckMarine
    @SouthAuckMarine Рік тому +3

    Interesting that they used Mercury Marine's Verado L6 cowlings, midsection and gearbox.

  • @rainerhummel892
    @rainerhummel892 Місяць тому

    Seems I have to update my wishlist. Great Boat.

  • @ctibpo991
    @ctibpo991 Рік тому +4

    300 hp is 224KW (746watts/hp). Even with 1000 volt batteries, that's still 224 amps which takes monster thick/heavy wire to run more than 2 meters. Without proper cable thickness, the cables get hot, instead of that current getting used by the motor. If you switch the volts and amps you get 224 volts at 1000 amps. 1000 amps is a peak load for a small subdivision just for this one boat to go WOT for a little while. The copper costs will be crazy. Do you want 400 volt or higher batteries or do you want to run multiple strands of 1awg wire for each terminal on that motor that's drawing 300a? 500a? 1000a?
    LPG or hydrogen would be greener, much lighter/faster, far more serviceable vs disposable and I'd even argue safer, although a lithium fire is definitely easy for responders to spot. Why not focus on developing hybrid outboards? The starter motor can be incorporated into the 500 watt or 1KW generator/hybrid motor. It's easy to troll on electric, or leave the harbor or slow cruise quietly, then propane or hydrogen (same engine tech as gasoline) to cover a big expanse of water quickly (while recharging the little batteries if needed).

    • @znoop72
      @znoop72 9 місяців тому

      There are high performance EV's that manages this with no problems. You just need cooling.And when you are in the ocean, you got pleny of it. And besides, Hydrogen fuel cells uses batteries aswell

    • @ct1762
      @ct1762 9 місяців тому

      @@znoop72what part of too much weight in a smaller craft do you have trouble with? unlike a heavy EV, boats CANNOT afford to be lugging around a giant battery empty or full. this thing is a joke, and always will be. Aircraft are even more sensitive. Fossil fuels are here to stay, thank god. hopefully biofuels will be more readily available though to solve the emissions issue, but for boats it doesnt matter anyway. they emit less emissions than trains worldwide.

  • @bmwi3eti3svoitureelectriqu85
    @bmwi3eti3svoitureelectriqu85 Рік тому +1

    Bonjour combien d'autonomie et vitesse max ?

  • @MegaSling
    @MegaSling Рік тому +1

    Only a 30 mile range?? So a trip to Bimini from Miami is out.

  • @rockstarrealtorexp
    @rockstarrealtorexp Рік тому +1

    Finally! I have been wondering how long this would take to get to the market

  • @PhilDesmond
    @PhilDesmond 7 місяців тому +1

    Cost compared to gas powered, same HP?

  • @darthkek1953
    @darthkek1953 Рік тому +12

    The range figures show just how subpar electric is at the moment. The problem isn't the engines, or even the cost of the batteries: the energy density for both weight and size, the problem. It does 1/10th the range of diesel and that's with a second power source installed. If you just replaced the fuel tank with batteries, you have something that is about 5% as efficient as diesel. Until the scientists get around that no boat-builder can get around that.

    • @sharonbraselton3135
      @sharonbraselton3135 Рік тому +4

      Wrong

    • @darthkek1953
      @darthkek1953 Рік тому +3

      @@sharonbraselton3135 you have an evidence-based counterargument? If so, I would be interested to hear.
      If not I'll assume you're just crying into the cat-food dinner you're warming up with a tealight candle.

    • @randy8643
      @randy8643 Рік тому +2

      Yeah electric is no where close enough to being mature to be appealing for most people.

    • @ct1762
      @ct1762 9 місяців тому

      @@Nomadiacjoeyour joking, right? Unlike a Tesla that can be a bloated overweight pig, a boat is very weight-sensitive. adding batteries with "quadruple the usage" (you mean range) is just laughably expensive and heavy. and, unlike gasoline, weather its empty or full, the battery weighs the same. do you know what a detriment carrying 1500 lbs of near empty batteries is to a boat? clearly not. and good luck changing it at anything under .25 cents/kWhr lol

    • @chriswilliams8607
      @chriswilliams8607 7 місяців тому +2

      You can charge an electric boat by cheap solar power, and battery capacity is increasing every year, weight to capacity has doubled within a few years and will continue to do so for some time. current lowcost batteries have 250Wh per kg, high end 500Wh per kg (used for drones and aviation, and luxury high end EVs), we will see 1kWh per kg within 10 years, and maybe even 1,5kWhs per kg while price will go down constantly.

  • @phillbrewer4880
    @phillbrewer4880 Рік тому +2

    If they were to use one of the new Sharrow props, most of the noise would be gone, as the noise would be the prop cavitating

  • @patrickmolloy6994
    @patrickmolloy6994 Рік тому +4

    exciting to see how this will develop

    • @Make-Asylums-Great-Again
      @Make-Asylums-Great-Again 5 місяців тому

      The genius is in the charging station network. They haven't even begun solving that nightmare.

  • @origin178
    @origin178 Рік тому +1

    Funny that on the data badge inside the boat, they got the units wrong, showing kw twice instead of kW. And now that more electric boats are being released, please can journalists make a clear definition between motors and engines? I've heard certain journalists go into a twin-diesel engine room to "look at the motors", and here the outboard motor is described as an engine! It's going to get crazy when people start reviewing hybrids.

  • @exoc1
    @exoc1 5 місяців тому +2

    26nm @25 knots, damn. So @ full speed, maybe 10 nm? Then you gotta find a fast charger... Good times! Haha

  • @Make-Asylums-Great-Again
    @Make-Asylums-Great-Again 5 місяців тому +1

    What a deal!

  • @112112112111
    @112112112111 Рік тому

    What navigation screen are they running on this boat? Looks custom

  • @cookiemonster2299
    @cookiemonster2299 Рік тому

    Very impressive and happy new year to all at mby. 👍❤️🇬🇧

  • @nnasab
    @nnasab Рік тому

    I wonder if they can install this system on pontoon boat.

  • @Coldeneye76
    @Coldeneye76 Рік тому

    So an hour ride for how much ?

  • @PhilbyFavourites
    @PhilbyFavourites Рік тому +4

    Nicely done Hugo in the face of too many interested parties on a small boat.
    And, in all honesty, only so much you can spin out of the information you have to hand. Perhaps in 10 years (and I’m being massively generous to the battery engineering and charging world) time we can look back on this and say “this was the start”.
    I guess everything starts with faltering steps, but if it was me I’d keep it well hidden until I had something to blow the audiences socks off. This boat is most certainly not it.

    • @hugoandreae3785
      @hugoandreae3785 Рік тому +1

      Thanks, it won’t suit many people yet but I think it’s important to show what is out there and encourage the quest for new technologies

    • @PhilbyFavourites
      @PhilbyFavourites Рік тому

      @@hugoandreae3785 spot on 👍🏻. I admit to being that Luddite with boats, bike and car all powered by fossil fuel. But I have been working (helming) on a hybrid RIB down Portsmouth way. So I accept that it may/could/should be the way ahead, but the technology is not where the customers want it at present. Perhaps one for MB&Y to look at in the spring?
      A last thought for fossil fuels; if history serves me right London went from fully horse drawn carriages to ICE cars in twenty years at the beginning of the last century. That truly must have been the white hot pace of change. Do we have an equivalent in the marine world?

    • @pistonburner6448
      @pistonburner6448 Рік тому +2

      @@PhilbyFavourites No, because going from horses to ICE was better, and improved things. Going from ICE to EV is the opposite of being better, and it makes everything worse while not solving anything.
      There is no way in hell that boats like this reduce CO2 at all. Manufacturing massively heavy batteries needed for boats spews horrifying quantities of CO2, not to mention the costs are crippling. No-one uses boats for enough hours per year to even nearly balance out those horrible CO2 emissions from manufacture (and end-of-life recycling, and the manufacture and installation and maintenance of a charger network) by lower-emissions usage! The costs bankrupt us from being able to invest elsewhere in actually effective and beneficial CO2 reducing things.
      For a fraction of the costs of the charging infrastructure subsidies alone we can set up enough e-fuel production facilities to turn ICE engines far more environmentally friendly than electric drive systems can ever be.

    • @PhilbyFavourites
      @PhilbyFavourites Рік тому

      @@pistonburner6448 well… I now have 1,260 hp (fossil fuelled) in my very small household and you’re absolutely correct these boats (and motorbikes) certainly don’t get used enough.
      Simply put boats are a luxury good. If we wanted the human race to do something about CO2 it’s a question of carrot or stick and that’s governmental choice. Of course their choices are based on “will we get back in power in the next five years with this choice?” Usually it’s those in the grey background pulling those strings, we’ll just call them FOLTs (Friends of Liz Truss) for the moment.
      I accept you have a valid point, but let me throw my final argument into the mix - children…. Massively expensive, incredibly annoying and too many people are having them. Think of it as an ever increasing carbon footprint with each generation. I don’t have any - my carbon foot print ends when I drop dead. With kids it’s in perpetuity…
      See you on the water 👍🏻👍🏻

    • @pistonburner6448
      @pistonburner6448 Рік тому

      @@PhilbyFavourites In Europe there is a good network for fuelling cars with modern waste-based biodiesels, bioethanol and natural gas / biogas (carbon neutral methane, so the same stuff as natural gas so it can be mixed in with natural gas or sold purely as 100% carbon neutral).
      Those are all infinitely better solutions for boats, and would be ready to go now for ICE boats with at maximum a very small conversion cost. No need to manufacture new motors for every boat, just fill in the new fuel.
      The HVO100 biodiesel, E85 and biomethane are all far cheaper than the massive extra cost of EVs. Actually biomethane is much cheaper than all other fuels right now!! In many countries E85 is slightly cheaper too. Biodiesel is only a few cents/litre more expensive than normal diesel. Compare that to the 50,000€ at minimum you're paying extra for electric stuff plus the massive tax bill from the charging network subsidies, development subsidies, factory subsidies, purchase subsidies, etc...No way will electricity at harbor chargers be cheap either.
      All of those solutions will still work with fossil fuels too so you won't have range anxiety and won't be tied to any new technologies alone.
      Actually come to think of it, really many ships are already shifting to LNG (liquid natural gas) as the liquid form is better for storing it on huge ships with the amounts they use. Clearly if ships can shift to LNG, maybe small boats should shift to CNG (compressed natural gas, the same natural gas or biomethane stored in pressurised gas form). They can use the same fuel stations, with the LNG's boil-off which is in gas form just shifted over to the CNG filling station side. And if the bigger harbor is near the small-boat harbor they can use a simple pipeline to still connect the LNG and CNG stations.

  • @jameshamilton6096
    @jameshamilton6096 Рік тому

    The future is here, although something i don't understand being non technical, why is there no solar panels to trickle recharge the batteries while its moored?

    • @hugoandreae3785
      @hugoandreae3785 Рік тому +1

      It is technically possible but the size of panels you could fit on that size of boat would make a negligible difference

  • @areyouarobotz
    @areyouarobotz Рік тому +3

    It's electric motor, not engine, but in general great video, thank you! Have you reviewed the candela boat? That seems to be the Tesla of boats right now

  • @Noname304y2u2
    @Noname304y2u2 Рік тому

    The lower noise level is very nice.

    • @Make-Asylums-Great-Again
      @Make-Asylums-Great-Again 5 місяців тому

      Loud pipes save lives, SIR!

    • @polska905
      @polska905 5 місяців тому +1

      It's about the same as a 4 stroke, at speed it's the wind and the prop that makes the most noise

  • @martinwinlow
    @martinwinlow Рік тому +1

    Overall weight of Axopar 25 petrol Vs electric: 1750kg (dry exc engine) + ~250kg (ICE outboard) + 170kg (full 230l tank) = *2170kg* Vs 1750kg (dry exc motor) + ~300kg (e-outboard) + 380kg x 2 (batteries) = *2810kg*.

    • @ct1762
      @ct1762 9 місяців тому +1

      you forgot the fact that the ICE will get lighter by 6 lbs per gallon. that is MASSIVE in a boat. im ok with lugging around 650lbs in fuel knowing it will be much lighter soon, and enjoy full power all the time. the battery will always weigh 380kg empty or full. its a joke. has to be!

  • @florianhoflehner2877
    @florianhoflehner2877 Рік тому +3

    Nice video as always. But unfortunately Too heavy and too expensive

  • @armandbarbe1812
    @armandbarbe1812 3 місяці тому +1

    You hear the propeller.

  • @aekara1000
    @aekara1000 10 місяців тому +1

    Half ton more weight for just 26 miles range is not enough compromise.

  • @riverakers
    @riverakers Рік тому +1

    And how many gas powered outboards could you buy for the price of this outboard?

    • @ct1762
      @ct1762 Рік тому

      a 400 verado (the motor this copied, but the old design so its definitely a used/blown up one they took the powerhead off of lol) is like $35k. so about 2-3 actual real motors for the price of this short-range garbage. oh and they would have a real warranty backed up by hundreds of service centers.

    • @danielcrabtree1141
      @danielcrabtree1141 Рік тому

      It’s not as straight forward as comparing upfront kit cost, surely? It needs a more complex maths excercise around how many miles and at what cost over what timeline to be able to compare costs fairly and credibly? Even then it’s down to individual preferences in other areas of course. My Tesla for example when you do the maths on 50k miles over 3 years for example is a no brainer if you have solar, don’t charge away from home at 3p per mile (admittedly with free solar and the right ev tarrif) compared to 17p per mile for petrol. I guess most people will work this out. Not looking for Ann argument just thought it might be relevant.

  • @sevensixtysteve8662
    @sevensixtysteve8662 Рік тому +2

    Great review and amazing to see what electric power can deliver in comparison to ICE. I think if electricity is going to deliver a real alternative to ICE in marine applications, the energy density will have to increase by a factor of 3 or 4 and the supply chain will have to have to become much more sustainable. I cant help thinking fuel cell tech offers more potential for boats - range and environmental benefits are already achievable with current tech and could be scaled for different sizes of craft. The real challenge is the green production of hydrogen in volume, and its distribution - which doesn't seem insurmountable.

    • @hugoandreae3785
      @hugoandreae3785 Рік тому +1

      Thanks, this won’t be suitable for the majority of users but it’s good to see what is possible now and how it may develop

  • @Ian-gf8id
    @Ian-gf8id Рік тому +4

    I appreciate that this is a prototype but 20 miles from a full charge at performance speeds is way short of customer requirements. Fast cruising and water sports could see the batteries depleted in 30-60 minutes. If it can’t provide all-day boating it won’t appeal to many.

    • @sharonbraselton3135
      @sharonbraselton3135 Рік тому

      Wronge

    • @4TheRecord
      @4TheRecord Рік тому +2

      ​@@sharonbraselton3135 First, it's wrong not wronge, secondly, he's right. The price of a new petrol boat is much cheaper and offers much more than this boat can offer. The only people that will buy this boat are those with more money than sense and those who don't know any better.

  • @mvcharisma
    @mvcharisma Рік тому +4

    What’s not impressive is the range of less than 17 nautical miles at speed 🙄

  • @roman_candle
    @roman_candle Рік тому +2

    Absolutely love this. Great video. Great job promoting electric power. ❤❤❤❤

    • @Harley365
      @Harley365 Рік тому +1

      What about the kids working in the lithium mines? Do you love them?

    • @magnusenamd
      @magnusenamd 10 місяців тому

      why?

    • @znoop72
      @znoop72 9 місяців тому

      @@Harley365 Where? In Australia? The worlds biggest lithium mine?

    • @Harley365
      @Harley365 9 місяців тому

      @@znoop72 did I say Australia? Don’t believe I did

  • @corail53
    @corail53 Рік тому +3

    Lithium batteries and salt water - a potential fun time there.

    • @pistonburner6448
      @pistonburner6448 Рік тому +2

      They should also not fly the Finnish flag on the boat, but instead the Kongolese flag to honour all the dead child miners.

    • @Jaycsee66
      @Jaycsee66 Рік тому +1

      @@pistonburner6448 Do you own a mobile phone, a tablet or laptop? Do you fly a Congolese flag?

    • @pistonburner6448
      @pistonburner6448 Рік тому +2

      @@Jaycsee66 Ah, the worst, most flawed argumentation ever as usual! I should've anticipated!
      I do not know of internal combustion engine powered mobile phones which I could choose as an alternative. And for sure my mobile phone does not have 800kg of battery, it's _slightly_ smaller.
      But I sure as hell have a wiiide range of choice of boats which don't have huge batteries in them.
      No subsidies stolen from poor people funding the ICE boats either.

    • @sharonbraselton3135
      @sharonbraselton3135 Рік тому

      Yes it is

  • @kehengnewenergytechnology8845

    Worth having

  • @mcrocks536
    @mcrocks536 Рік тому +3

    imagine spending that much to have fun for like an hour until u need to recharge

    • @4TheRecord
      @4TheRecord Рік тому +3

      There's a sucker born every minute.

  • @thechadshu
    @thechadshu Рік тому

    So why is it there aren't many hybrids? I would think having a diesel generator charging batteries would be the best of both. Big heavy equipment uses electric motors run by generators, I'd think the same would work on boats

    • @RandomGuyRandomNumber
      @RandomGuyRandomNumber Рік тому +3

      "Big heavy equipment" - There's a clue right there.

    • @jakbain1337
      @jakbain1337 Рік тому

      They do that on ships, just depends on what is criteria for use are.

    • @thechadshu
      @thechadshu Рік тому

      @@RandomGuyRandomNumber battery tech isn't where it needs to be, but when you pull 2 6,L engines out, there should be room for both. I talked to a guy who builds those sort of systems and he thought it would work. My issue with straight electric is once the batteries are dead, nobody can bring out a can of electricity to get you home.

    • @donaldsherman1
      @donaldsherman1 Рік тому

      Submarines before nuclear ran that way… doubt that was very fuel efficient

  • @ronen160
    @ronen160 Рік тому +1

    Just a matter of time. The things that need to be resolved are: the toxicity of the battery parts, and the ability to recharge as the boat is being used. I imagine that a solar “canopy” could be utilized at rest, also come kind of propeller to recapture energy as the boat is motoring..? and the battery makeup must be re-designed. I love the quietness of electric engines.

    • @RandomGuyRandomNumber
      @RandomGuyRandomNumber Рік тому +3

      "[S]ome kind of propeller to recapture energy as the boat is motoring"
      You mean a Perpetual Motion Machine ? Yeah, sure, absolutely "just a matter of time"...

    • @jakbain1337
      @jakbain1337 Рік тому

      Solar panels would help but also it's a very small percentage! Not to mention aerodynamic impacts. 400-700 watts of solar panels are tiny compared to 50,000-200,000 watts the motor consumes depending on load. Boats are similar to plane in the sense that they require high continuous power nearly all of the energy is lost as drag and is unrecoverable (battery Regen) and a less energy dense fuel source increase drag or decreases range. It's going to be a tough market for commercial applications. But there will be a small yet developing market.

    • @donaldsherman1
      @donaldsherman1 Рік тому +2

      Lol, they used 5% of the battery capacity in just a few minutes. They said it’s range was about 19 nautical miles….. bass boats have a 40-50 mile range…
      This is hot garbage, and a novelty at best.
      Ev’s have a long way to go.

    • @ronen160
      @ronen160 Рік тому

      @@donaldsherman1 Yes agreed that there is a long way to go - but inventors have ingeunity and creativity on their side, and it will happen.

    • @vzo8049
      @vzo8049 Рік тому +1

      Qmogen (electric motor generator loop with excess useable bleed off power)

  • @collinator68
    @collinator68 Рік тому

    Imagine boats with x2 diesel 300hp outboards and x1 electric 300hp engine for a combined 900hp for maximum speed, and just 300 hp for silent cruising in the marina.

    • @kayak1995
      @kayak1995 Рік тому

      oxe is developing diesel outboards with 450 hp combind- 150hp electric + 300 diesel in one outboard,but it will be 100k usd+

  • @Vat19Pl
    @Vat19Pl Рік тому

    1 nm (20 knots) = 5,04 kw? Nice

  • @martinsv9183
    @martinsv9183 4 місяці тому

    Weight must be a problem. Adds a lot of extra hp requirements for same speed in a boat...

  • @Ethan-ud4pt
    @Ethan-ud4pt Рік тому

    They need to optimize the onboard charger

  • @MrDance4meh
    @MrDance4meh 3 місяці тому

    Cannot wait to entirely charge my boat for literally 10 DOLLARS versus $300!!
    This plus the hydrofoil technology is going to dramatically reduce the cost of boating

  • @majorsynthqed7374
    @majorsynthqed7374 Рік тому +4

    What serious boater would waste their time and money on this? I have a center console Sailfish 24 that holds 130 gallons of gas, with a Merc 250 pushing it at 42 mph at WOT. I can run 20 miles to the reefs to fish, cruise around for half a day, and cruise back in and have fuel left over. If I tried to do that with the setup in the video, I'd be calling Sea Tow after 30-40 minutes. How much more battery drain is there in 3-4 ft waves? If I wanted the same range as my gas engine, I'd have to put in so many batteries that I'd be in danger of sinking the boat!

    • @robhawthorne6892
      @robhawthorne6892 5 місяців тому

      I’m thinking Seal Team 6…

    • @MrDance4meh
      @MrDance4meh 3 місяці тому +2

      Uhhh because it isn’t $700 worth of fuel to go out for a day..

    • @majorsynthqed7374
      @majorsynthqed7374 3 місяці тому

      @@MrDance4meh Well, in that boat you aren't even going offshore to fish. And I have never spent anything close to $700 for a day's fuel, $300 tops.

  • @CX0909
    @CX0909 Рік тому

    I don’t know why everyone isn’t using toroidal props. More efficient and quieter. If you want electric to improve as quickly as possible then put the best prop on it.

    • @ct1762
      @ct1762 9 місяців тому

      because they cost $5k a pop, and don't do squat for a big segment of the performance market. the very people willing to pay for upgrades like that, accept it wont do much of anything accept certain hull/motor combos.

    • @CX0909
      @CX0909 9 місяців тому

      @@ct1762 fair point. Why those props cost that much is beyond me.

    • @ct1762
      @ct1762 9 місяців тому

      @@CX0909they are quite though, and can help at cruise on certain hulls but those tests are carefully selected by Sharrow and not representative of the average boat.

    • @CX0909
      @CX0909 9 місяців тому

      @@ct1762 good to know!

  • @jonny-b4954
    @jonny-b4954 Рік тому +1

    Put some sort of propellers in the water to spin an alternator through the water and solar panels and maybe be able to extend its range just a little. Like regenerative braking. Then again, more weight. Little room for solar.

  • @sharonbraselton3135
    @sharonbraselton3135 Рік тому

    20 NM range 22.5 same j88 play eltric sail boat

  • @Ethan-ud4pt
    @Ethan-ud4pt Рік тому +1

    Should also try use Teslas battery packs instead

  • @-EchoesIntoEternity-
    @-EchoesIntoEternity- Рік тому +53

    i love how all EV enthusiasts smugly ignore the cobalt mining issues

    • @pistonburner6448
      @pistonburner6448 Рік тому

      I'm sure that most of them think of it as a plus: "If they refuse to walk for weeks and cross oceans in dinghies to come to clean my toilets for pennies, they deserve to die in cobalt mines digging the batteries for my 3-ton luxury electric car (or now boat too)!"
      They're all really reverse-colonialists behind that fake facade of virtue signalling. (Reverse colonialists = otherwise just like colonialists except they're so lazy and cowardly they refuse to bother to travel to Africa for their colonialism, no, they take it a step further and demand that their slaves walk to them instead!)

    • @johnsm100
      @johnsm100 Рік тому +33

      I love how people type messages on mobile phones that use cobalt 😁 and many EV makers are reducing cobalt usage, eg Tesla use no cobalt in their iron-phosphate packs and a small and reducing amount in their nickel based packs. We have lots of problems, let's pull together rather than sniping.

    • @pistonburner6448
      @pistonburner6448 Рік тому

      @@johnsm100 Oh, you mean those batteries which Tesla buys from a Chinese company and has not developed or manufactured themselves at all?
      And they haven't reduced cobalt usage yet (the demand is only going up), nor is cobalt the only problematic mineral!
      Let's not spend other peoples' money on tons and tons of CO2-spewing batteries, let's rather just rationally and gradually switch to biofuels and e-fuels without bankrupting society and killing people. Then we'll have some money left over to invest in other actually effective, actually real CO2-reductions and not just massive corruption and geopolitical China-domination projects.
      (BTW I don't live in the 3rd world so I don't use a tiny phone screen for the internet...I'm on a desktop)

    • @johnsm100
      @johnsm100 Рік тому +7

      @@pistonburner6448 Cobalt is also used in many of the ics in your desktop, but why attack Tesla? Of course they buy batteries but they purchase significant percentage of the raw materials themselves so can have influence on the admittedly murky supply-chain before supplying to their battery suppliers. They mandated the lfp batteries have no cobalt, they design and manufacture the 4680 themselves (which will transition to cobalt-free) Bio-fuels are a useful solution but have issues with land-use, fertilisers, water use etc. There are no perfect solutions, please try not to be so angry as we are better off together 🙂 Happy New year

    • @pistonburner6448
      @pistonburner6448 Рік тому

      @@johnsm100 You think my phone or desktop uses more than a few grams of cobalt? Compared to those 800kg batteries? Do you have any sense of proportion here??Or any logic, seeing as we can all buy boats and cars without huge batteries using massive amounts of cobalt!? Why didn't you read my other reply which is here already debunking your ridiculous, laughable argumentation?!
      Why are you mentioning 4680 batteries? No-one believes Tesla fans' or Tesla's fairy tales of what they're supposedly going to do one day...
      Those are not Tesla's new batteries, their new batteries are purely bought from the Chinese company, they have nothing to do with Tesla. And I very much doubt your story of "they have influence on the supply chain" since they purely buy those new batteries from the Chinese company which designed those batteries themselves, own the patents, manufacture them, etc... And Tesla didn't even build their own factory in China, it was the Chinese Communist Party who did, they even financed it too, and they set up their whole Chinese supply chain for Tesla..including the nice discounted prices from the suppliers so Tesla can export those essentially Chinese cars under the Tesla name to Europe!
      You just made up those issues with biofuels, typically for Americans you have absolutely no clue what biofuels even are, how they're made, what they're made from... Especially since they weren't pushed to you on TikTok or on some other big FBI-controlled social media or EV blog which are all 100% corrupt and pretend no biofuels exist at all because the Chinese pay them.

  • @sharonbraselton3135
    @sharonbraselton3135 Рік тому

    29.5 mioe range 147.5 mile ranhe

  • @bigbopper143
    @bigbopper143 Рік тому

    Dont hit bad weather because help isnt coming 😂😂😂

  • @nicbennett6554
    @nicbennett6554 Рік тому +1

    It’s going to take a lot of improvements to tempt most away from petrol. If you want to be kind to the planet, maybe sailing would be better!
    Great video Hugo, thanks.

    • @hugoandreae3785
      @hugoandreae3785 Рік тому +1

      I agree but pleased to see that manufacturers are starting to develop new technologies

    • @nicbennett6554
      @nicbennett6554 Рік тому

      @@hugoandreae3785 got to agree that new tech is good. Roll on the future!

    • @RandomGuyRandomNumber
      @RandomGuyRandomNumber Рік тому

      @@hugoandreae3785 But this outfit is not developing new technologies, they are just buying in components (battery; charger; outboard leg and gearbox) from existing manufacturers using existing technologies to produce a woefully inadequate product at a ridiculous price.
      And if you claim the electric motor itself is their own design, you fail to realise that electric motors are not the problem (and if they were, there are a thousand other motor manufacturers that have solved pretty much all of them already), it is the energy density of batteries that is an order of magnitude lower than ICE.

    • @hugoandreae3785
      @hugoandreae3785 Рік тому +1

      @@RandomGuyRandomNumber well I don’t know of any other company offering a 300hp electric outboard so getting it all to work as well as this one does is an achievement in itself even if the components come from a number of different sources. Nobody is forcing you or anyone else to buy it, I just think it’s a positive move that marine companies are trying new things and developing new ideas even if they aren’t currently the silver bullet we are all hoping for.

    • @RandomGuyRandomNumber
      @RandomGuyRandomNumber Рік тому

      @@hugoandreae3785 You keep saying it is new - how can it be new if another company is already producing it using existing technology. It wasn't even new technology when Mercury / Kriesel et al. first produced it. And this does not work well - it has a positively dangerously short range.
      If it were actually new, it would be significantly better or else why bother ? And it simply isn't better - this barely even qualifies as an "outboard" if the entire boat it is mounted on has to be ripped apart and half a ton of battery, charger and electronic controller shoe-horned in place. It's a semi-permanent stern drive at best, or the worst of all possible worlds - an outboard that cannot be easily removed and an inboard that clutters up the transom.
      And are you really saying "Nobody is forcing you or anyone else to buy it" is a valid argument in favour of producing these videos and adding to the unwaranted hype ?

  • @S.V.TeFiti
    @S.V.TeFiti Рік тому

    put a sharrow prop on it man it may be cool....

  • @IllinoisCitizen
    @IllinoisCitizen Рік тому

    The weak weak weak range will kill these boats.
    Hybrid is a far better answer than full electric.

  • @マロまる
    @マロまる Рік тому

    50 knots for how long? And the price? Sorry it is extremely expensive.

  • @mausermann7918
    @mausermann7918 Рік тому +1

    80.000 Pounds of batteries for a couple of dozen miles range??

  • @LKO-Ekawami
    @LKO-Ekawami Рік тому

    Beautiful chems trails behind you!!

  • @ninjawarrior4319
    @ninjawarrior4319 Рік тому +1

    Who in their right mind would buy one of these over a petrol version? More green insanity! Good luck trying to sell it in 10 years when the batteries are knackered.

    • @sharonbraselton3135
      @sharonbraselton3135 Рік тому

      Baters. 65 perct more range

    • @ct1762
      @ct1762 Рік тому

      id think since the entire deck would need to come off and then re-sealed (yes, you need a crane to do that), people would just end up having these cut up and sent to the junk yard where they belong.

  • @johnj8686
    @johnj8686 3 місяці тому

    Its literally a modified L6 verado

  • @cyclinguy
    @cyclinguy 9 місяців тому

    Outboard motor.

  • @Squirrelboy_100
    @Squirrelboy_100 5 місяців тому

    It looks like a mercury 225

  • @bellwethertrucking3650
    @bellwethertrucking3650 Рік тому

    Why wouldn't they make it a diesel/electric hybrid? They still make mostly fossil fuel boats, so we know they're not doing this for the environment. Hybrids get an insanely far fuel range, because when you run out of battery, you turn on the diesel or petrol to keep moving and it recharges your batteries. Then you kill the fuel and cruise on electric. With solar, batteries and a fuel friendly diesel you could cross the Atlantic on half of a tank.

  • @uthermaceanruig5098
    @uthermaceanruig5098 2 місяці тому

    How about we shelve the ev movement until we can figure out how to do it without batteries.
    Wireless transmission of electricity is the answer

  • @scottchristensen8458
    @scottchristensen8458 Рік тому +1

    ✨BEATS FOSSIL FUEL 💚🤝💚☝🏾💚

    • @Bill-sp8kb
      @Bill-sp8kb 5 місяців тому

      Takes thousands of gallons of fossil fuels, to manufacture those.

  • @TheoSmith249
    @TheoSmith249 Рік тому

    Adapting to conventional gearing is the first mistake, but in the evolutionary process is the easiest adaptation. This tech will he leapfrogged quickly. You are not going to see motors hanging off the back soon.

  • @RandomGuyRandomNumber
    @RandomGuyRandomNumber Рік тому +4

    Wow, these folks took someone else's boat (Axopar), someone else's batteries (Kriesel), someone else's charger, someone else's outboard motor (Mercury), took government grant money, covered up the original logos with their own, and tripled the price to produce a boat that will leave you stranded in the middle of the ocean after about 10 minutes at full throttle. Well done !
    Build a boat capable of 50 knots without giving the range at that speed, but do advertise its still pitiful range at 26 knots ? Yes, we were all born yesterday...

    • @pistonburner6448
      @pistonburner6448 Рік тому

      But come on, manufacturing 800kg of batteries for only a use of a few dozen hours per year is going to save the planet!!
      And remember, biofuels and e-fuels do not exist and can never exist according to those making money off of EVs!! China wants us only using their batteries, and they've paid our politicians to dictate them to us!

    • @rwg2626
      @rwg2626 Рік тому

      So when mercury trial a new engine they put them on non mercury designed and built boats. What on earth is your complaint

    • @majorsynthqed7374
      @majorsynthqed7374 Рік тому

      @@rwg2626 Really? You don't understand what he is really saying?

    • @ct1762
      @ct1762 Рік тому

      @@rwg2626 moron. and mercury uses their own Genmar boats to test their motors on.

    • @polska905
      @polska905 5 місяців тому

      It won't leave you stranded in the middle of the ocean because it barley has the range to leave the dock, I would imagine @50 knots the range would be under 10 knots

  • @jeffk9405
    @jeffk9405 Рік тому +2

    The engine is really amazing. The boat not so much.

  • @newhampshirelifestyle4233
    @newhampshirelifestyle4233 3 місяці тому

    You had been just keep water out of that battery tray. If that boat takes on water, you will have a fire you cannot put out.

  • @davidrb560sec
    @davidrb560sec Місяць тому

    Nahhhh I'll stick with my twin Mercury 300 petrol engines

  • @BobSmith-yy8ng
    @BobSmith-yy8ng Рік тому +2

    Displaced emissions !

  • @akisakis665
    @akisakis665 Рік тому

    26 nm range? That's disappointing.

  • @sharonbraselton3135
    @sharonbraselton3135 Рік тому

    10 ione vaterys

  • @christoskonstantis
    @christoskonstantis Рік тому

    😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
    Good luck
    😅😅😅😅😅😅😅

  • @stevendegreef93
    @stevendegreef93 3 місяці тому

    7:00 combined with salt water..... this is just stupid as the sea was completely flat as well. Come on guys, be honest, it's the same as electric flight, the batteries are heavy and lack capacity!

  • @sharonbraselton3135
    @sharonbraselton3135 Рік тому

    BMW 20 NM ra ge cruse soeed 22.5 Mike ione back 112.5 mioe rsnge

  • @rulerofthelight
    @rulerofthelight Рік тому

    40,000eur for 1 battery,...
    I can get a lot of fuel for 40,000

  • @b.freanch227
    @b.freanch227 5 місяців тому +1

    DON'T TELL TRUMP. HE CAN'T UNDERSTAND IT.... 😂😂😂😂

    • @polska905
      @polska905 4 місяці тому

      He can understand everything, I think you have him confused with sleapy Joe, may he can't hear because he still has water in his ears from molesting his daughter in the shower...

  • @terrymorris1687
    @terrymorris1687 Рік тому +1

    Range, 26 nautical miles! 😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @timtam6442
    @timtam6442 Рік тому

    Motor not engine!

  • @ZoneTelevision
    @ZoneTelevision Рік тому

    25 nautical mile range ? That's ridiculous.. talk about range anxiety . Also, batteries are produced at a net carbon loss. Petroleum produces infinitely more power at a much lower cost to the environment and your wallet. Stop believing the lies.

  • @2011blueman
    @2011blueman Рік тому +1

    This seems like an absolutely terrible idea.

    • @sharonbraselton3135
      @sharonbraselton3135 Рік тому

      Wrong

    • @2011blueman
      @2011blueman Рік тому +1

      @@sharonbraselton3135 insightful reply, it's kind of sad you didn't pay attention in physics class.

  • @foxxster3565
    @foxxster3565 Рік тому

    26 mile range at 25 knots. Seriously why are we even seeing this. We are all aware of electric cars by now and their batteries, charging and their instant torque and quite powerful motors. However this thing is utterly ridiculous. I cannot even call it a toy. Toys are cheap. And the weight, and the cost. Ffs there is NOTHING impressive about it. Quite the opposite.

    • @pistonburner6448
      @pistonburner6448 Рік тому

      Why are we seeing this you ask? Because _lots_ of people make a very nice living gathering taxes, distributing the taxes as subsidies, writing about how good the government is because they fund these projects, as "entrepreneurs" cobbling together these nonsense prototypes, then writing about how great their "products" will be in the future, etc. They all make a very good living and have fun throwing each other well-catered seminars, meetings, events, dinners, naturally with comfortable travel and luxury hotel rooms to get there. It's all a nice kleptocratic circus they've built, all paid by working peoples' tax money. Relevant to this video we're watching: they have permission to use much of that subsidy budget to pay medias to report on it! They take taxpayer money and use it not only on these projects, but a big part of it is paying the media to report on it.
      That also has a secondary function: they love to have excuses to pay the media no matter what as that helps them build up a relationship with the media, a friendship for the purpose of the media learning that they (the politicians, civil servants, NGOs, etc. who get to make the calls on how that taxpayer money is used) are an important source of income for them, and that they should always be beneficial to those people or they might lose that source of income which might be the difference between life or death of their media company, or the company having the budget to keep that journalist employed or not. Note, this is not a criticism towards this media, MB&Y at all, it's most relevant to the medias which report on politics or fail to report on politics because of this method of bribery. And actually the criticism is directed to the governments and administrations for allowing this kind of system to develop as they should have anti-corruption as a top priority. The medias are kind of stuck, as it's just a fact that much of the money is in dishonest klepto government and government-controlled hands and they have to report on what they pay them to report on or they go out of business and lose their livelihoods, they'll then not be able to report on anything ever again and someone else will just take their spot.
      It's a beautifully constructed way for the government and networked government-connected entities I mentioned launder hundreds of millions into their pockets and pretend that they've actually done some work in exchange for that money or that people have voluntarily given that money to them, that they've earned it. Hundreds of thousands of civil servants, government rats, NGO-employees, think-tank bull5h1tters, politicians, administrators, government-funded "entrepreneurs", university professors&researchers&employees, journalists, bloggers, reporters, etc. are all working together to keep up this fake house of cards to pump out taxpayer money for themselves. And as long as it's a top-down money-dependent structure it's a massively powerful method of wielding power for those at the top of that pyramid, it allows them to build up a massive network of loyal dependents who will support them in other ways too.

    • @sharonbraselton3135
      @sharonbraselton3135 Рік тому

      BMW bateries 32 mile rsnge

  • @johnadan2725
    @johnadan2725 29 днів тому

    Get your life jackets and helmets. If you flip, it may not be fun.

  • @dwightbernheimer331
    @dwightbernheimer331 Рік тому

    And 3,000 lb of batteries 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @geoffkong7076
    @geoffkong7076 Рік тому

    Load of Expensive near useless boat

  • @DustinKeating-yk3vq
    @DustinKeating-yk3vq 9 місяців тому

    Junk

  • @pistonburner6448
    @pistonburner6448 Рік тому

    It's amazing how many "connected startup entrepreneurs' " incomes all that poor peoples' tax money can subsidise!!