She Found "Photos" Of Herself On Her Stepdad’s Computer - So She Killed Him (Case of Jade Janks)
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Please stop with better help. They are currently in law suits for giving away their clients information to facebook. This is not a company to be trusted for people who really need help!
I feel guilty for watching Stephanie for this. Other than that, she’s so unproblematic.
She's probably in a contract and has to see it through. She's got our back. I'm glad you brought this up, I'm going to look into it after the story. Thank you! ❤
*Seriously.* *_The Right Opinion_* Also Has A *_Huuuge_* Deep Dive Detailing _All Of Their Scandals_ & *Egregiously* *_Foul_* *Behavior.*
Better help is an awful corporation
@@fartsmella9267 no she does, this has been going on for 3 years now
"nobody deserves to be murdered" not to sound like a murderer, but I'm not crying over a pedo basically incestuous dude dying
Same I honestly don't feel any emotion when i hear about these type of cases.
they say to be the bigger person but man am I short 🙏
For real
I have no sympathy for predators, specifically because predators almost never get the consequences they actually deserve. Male or female, they almost always get such low sentences if they ever get jail time at all.
I really don't feel bad at all. I don't care what that says about me.
this woman isn’t a danger to society. she needs therapy and a peaceful place to live.
She needs therapy and jail
@@-_.Puppy.girl.princess._-Yeah. You don't get to walk free after a 1st degree murder. What the guy did was awful, but it absolutely does not give her the license to murder him.
@@vtubersubs3803 exactly
Once she slept with the "hitman" Alan. That did it for me. She deserves jailtime. I can imagine his friend Brian being shocked. Damnit, I'm accomplice to murder. Tom didn't position any hidden cameras. That's on Jade. If she wants film her "escapades". That's her having video of it. This is the digital age. Simply don't takes pics and video yourself! Like this gen with their TikTok.
She's a " danger" because she reacted like Tom S-A'ed her.
What more if Tom actually R-worded her.
@@Everestyilim-hf8ph you’re seriously blaming her?
I don't care how many butterflies the step dad saved, he was a monster. When you're a victim you sympathise more with people like Jade. I probably would have done the same in her circumstances. She did not deserve to be imprisoned.
@@Irishprice1you completely gloss over the whole "under certain circumstances" part. Also you yourself should stay far far away from people seeing how you prefer that pedophiles, r_pists and child r_pists continue breathing. I would rather be in the same space with someone willing to murder a r_pist/pedophile then be in the same space as someone who would rather everyone just "live laugh and love"
I also hate that these offenders get prison time, aka free food shelter and a pot to piss in all at the expense of me and every other f_cking tax payer. My money your money everyones money goes to keeping these VIOLENT offenders alive while their victims either suffer unrelenting trauma or don't f_cking breath anymore. Yeah YOU stay away from ME. 😂
@@Irishprice1so many people think of killing people who do this to them. She just went crazy and actually did it.
My biological father before I was adopted is a phedophile and abused me and my siblings before I was adopted.
He abused other family members as well.
It wasn’t until a couple years ago that someone finally came forward and reported and after turning down a plea deal that would’ve given him 15 years, he got imprisoned for like 50 years now instead.
When I get the news that he has passed I will not be sad.
She should have stayed in prison or a mental institute for 3 years MAX. The justice system failed victims again...
imma be so real, I don't give a damn when rapists are killed. or when killers are killed, for that matter. especially if a victim or the family member of a victim did it. like, oh, the mother of the woman you've been abusing for the past few years killed you? damn that sucks maybe don't be abusive. oh, the uncle of the eight year old you raped and murdered killed you? damn that sucks maybe don't rape and kill kids
like I don't.
have sympathy for those who do such henius actsm
JUSTICE FOR JADE, can we make a rally for this so her sentence can be below 10 years at least...
It’s interesting that she got life.. while rapists only get a few years.
@@Flintlockon Yeah I'm sure she just made it all up and killed him for no reason, ok
@@utena2 I don't know what reason she had to murder an elderly man with all manner of health problems but he had assets. A home and a butterfly sanctuary he had founded. Maybe he wasn't dieing fast enough and with all his health problems her goal was to make it look like an accident. She certainly lied and lied and lied as was proven in court just as certain as she is a vile murderer.
@@Flintlockon Honey.. please read it again because clearly you did not.. Nowhere in my comment does it say she shouldn’t have consequences. You made that up. What you completely ignored about my comment is that I said: “She got life, while rapists get only a few years” it’s very interesting that you completely ignored the second part. Why is that? Do you believe that it is ok for rapists to only get a few years, while someone who had this happen to them get life?
One more thing.. just saying the words “there’s no proof” doesn’t change facts. Facts are facts and you simply saying those words that doesn’t change it..
@@utena2 Do you know what are psychopaths capable of? They can make up the most convincing stories and lies that you start to question everything.
@@Asliyah8888 Nobody should get any prison whatsoever. There should be prevention so that any of this wouldn’t have ever happened. But the system is fucked.
No way she got life in prison... yet another failure in the justice system
she did kill someone… though she felt disgusted and thoroughly betrayed (understandably) i simply don’t think murder is justified in this case… i do think she should get the opportunity to he psychologically evaluated though.
@@sofiaalouane5391 I agree that murder is never the answer, but I do believe that the fact that she was also a victim should have been a larger factor in her sentencing. I find it insane that she got life in prison when she obviously just needs rehabilitation, not necessarily punishment
And then there are murder cases that get wayyy less time smh
@@sofiaalouane5391 he deserved to die
I feel like a lot of the time they give harsher sentences to victims that commit murder. Not saying this is true but it feels like it.
She's clearly not a cold blooded murder, she was panicking all the way, it's like the opposite definition of cold blooded
Yeah, she was sleeping with a tarp on her floor to alert her in case he broke in to assault her. He’s a 70 year old man who’s currently in the hospital, he’s probably not gonna do that. She clearly wasn’t thinking straight.
As someone who was a victim of SA by my step dad i feel i need to weigh in. I remember it like it happened last night. I was only [[3]] YRS OLD!! Eaater sunday when he first tested it. I was nearly 12 when my torture finally ended. I didn't know for until i started school that it was wrong. But when i did i started to hate him. Every time he came into my room i would cry. Like sobbing type cry. Id push & pull and use my feet to push my dresser infront of my door to block it. Id write notes on my door that said "dad do not come in my room" my mom just thought i was being a kid. After he was put in prison i felt better, but very temporarily. A few years later i found out he was getting out. He only served 6 yrs for what he did to me! We live in a small town. Really small. So of course i eventually ran into him at a grocery store. My legs almost buckled. If i would've had a weapon in my sure i wouldn't have used it on him. Not just bec of what he did to me, not just bec i had a 3 year old daughter now, not just bec of the trauma i still suffer from, but bec when i confronted him i literally watched as he was looking around me on repeat. I turned to see what he couldn't stop looking at. It was a mother with her maybe 6 year old daughter. He hadnt changed AT ALL. As he's apologizing to me (which i was suprised he even said) he couldn't stop lurking over my shoulder at that little girl. So i flipped around and YELLED to the mom. "This man SA me from 3 to almost 12. I ran into him here & he cant stop staring at your daughter. Please get her out of here she isn't safe." Then i yelled it to the entire store. "Please get your kids out of here. This man ABUSED ME my whole childhood & was its releasedfrom prison." Now,had i not seen him doing that i would not have caused that kind of scene. I was keeping it quite until i seen that bec i was still at a point of punishing myself for what he did. It was humiliating and still it to be honest. Once you've been betrayed like this things inside you snap. Starting with your heart. You're stomach, your body starts to fail you. You want to puke. Then you snap mentally!! If i had a weapon in that store idk what i would've done. When he left my knees went weak. I couldn't stand up. I was totally embarrassed, but , my body failed me. I believe jade snapped more & more as time went on. Once she got over the initial shock, her sickness and sadness turned into anger which turned into rage!! Its wild that she got more time then CHILD *GRAPESTS* AND MOLESTERS do!!! I'm not saying let her walk free. But i am saying make harsher punishment for these crimes.
First of all, I'm so sorry for what you had to go through. I know how it feels to be unsafe in your own goddamn house where you are supposed to feel the safest. But I won't say I understand your pain totally. I was molested by my cousin when I was 13, he was a year older than me. His fingers still linger all around my mind. I was scared when few months later my own grandfather held my hand out of love because of that man. When I cried about this to my mother, she said, "You might've gotten his actions wrong, he might just be playing." I cried and begged my own damn mother to believe that it wasn't playful at all and in fact very disgusting, and after a few minutes of my begging, she told me not to tell this to anyone, not even my own elder brother or father. She forbade me to ever repeat those words again and told ME to stay away from him. It was truly haunting, I used to wake up at night thinking about what more he could have done, had I not locked myself in a room all day long till I stayed in my maternal grandparents' house. She never said a word to him, and it truly broke my heart that my own mother wasn't giving me the mental comfort I needed the most at that time.
I just cannot imagine the terror one might feel after getting SA'd as I was just inappropriately touched. I hope you are living a better life now and getting the therapy you need.
About the case, I truly believe she should have gotten less period in jail and rather put in a good mental institution for therapy. She didn't just murder someone for sadistic pleasures, Jade had reasons for it although not justified. I believe that had our system given actual punishments to pedos, molesters, rapists, and people like them, she would've kept faith in the law and handed him over to the police. But I bet the police might've given him some months' punishment to absolutely nothing at all at parole if Tom had said, "I promise not to repeat my mistakes again" and the police would've waived off the case by saying, "there's no potential harm to you so we would not arrest him." This is how I imagine things going if she had handed him over to the police.
Also, I would like to make it clear that, I do not support her decision of murder as a solution, but she is not a potential threat to society atleast not as threatful as those rapists roaming around freely after spending little to no time in jail. I've seen cases where the assault was so violent that the victim died because of it, and yet the predator was released after just 2 mere years of jail. Law NEEDS TO MAKE BETTER punishments for those predators as no person roaming on the same street as them is safe as well. These are my thoughts, and you can counter them, but I highly doubt if I would go against them as I've made up my mind.
I'm so sorry that you had to go through this!
I just don't understand why people like 3yos.
When my older sister was 3, a guy (like 15) at *CHURCH* ask my sister to be his girlfriend. SHE DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WHAT IT MEANT! After that, on the bus, HE GRAPED FOR THIGH!
I am very sorry that you even knew his name. Or would even see him at any point.
I’m so sorry that you didn’t get the real justice you deserved. I hope you are healing and I hope you never have to see his face again. Sending love your way.
I'm so so sorry that you had to experience something so terrible. I can't imagine the pain you had to endure. I hope you are healing and sincerely wish all the best for you and your daughter!!
My thoughts on this case are, I do not and never feel sorry for child predators. Period the end. No if’s, and’s or but’s 🤷🏻♀️
@@greywolf7577 Bullshit. Let's not punish arsonists and drug smuggler's right? Because murderers exist. Just because murderers exist doesn't excuse this disgusting mans actions.
@@greywolf7577oh, _shut up_ with this bull, acting like pedophiles aren't an abhorrent plague on society.
Sex offenses are the only crimes that are NEVER justifiable under ANY circumstances. Murders can be done in self defense. Stealing can be done to feed your family. Drunk driving, while also really bad, I can write this off if someone really needed to get to the hospital and couldn't call an ambulance.
Sex offenses are only ever done for the perpetrator's pleasure. There is no excuse that will *ever* make pedophilia, rape, etc. okay.
@@greywolf7577 and not child victim? so the child predators their not bad i see you commenting in support of child predators everywhere florida just legalised the death penalty for child predators hallelujah you must be one yourself and a man only a male can be this degenerate
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@@greywolf7577Not really, can't do anything about the dead who aren't traumatised, the living victims still have to live with it. They're a higher priority, I feel.
"Nobody deserves to be murdered" Ehhh. I couldn't murder someone, but you won't catch me crying over tom. I hope Jade's gotten the help she needs, though. I feel awful she got so much time when rapists and other monsters are just given literally nothing. (I will not lie I hope Brock Turner finds "natural causes" right quick.)
@greywolf7577 mmm someone lacks the attention they crave
@@greywolf7577 your parents clearly didn't love you enough
@@greywolf7577 bro is replying under every comment defending that pedo, stay away from children 🔥🔥💯
Same on Brock turner and same , not an ounce of sympathy for those fucks.
@@Irishprice1 she went insane due to the trauma. yes she murdered someone, but compared to other murder cases her life sentence is a bit ridiculous. also i think you are minimizing the situation as a whole. "the guy" was someone she considered her FATHER who she was very close to (emotionally and distance between houses). the "nudes" weren't just nudes, there were frames from secretly recorded videos of her and pictures of her spanning over 10 years since she was 16.
she deserves time but most of us think she doesn't deserve life because of the circumstances.
she got life in prison but we all know that if she had taken him to court he only would've gotten 2 years max, if they even gave him anything at all
He kept and looked at some pictures. She contracted a murder.
You think these things should be similarly punished?
@@mikemck4796 bro are you dumb lmao
@@mikemck4796I mean some of it was CP. Thats not just "some pictures"
@@Topicaltropicalpopsicle oh, okay. Let me fix it for accuracy.
Him copying, keeping, and looking at pictures, some of which she happened to take and posses of herself as early as 16 years old, should be equally punished as murder?
@@mikemck4796 I think the punishment should be closer for murder as opposed to Not stopping a boat when ordered by law enforcement to stop (1 year).
Should he have been murdered? No.
Should he have been in a position to get locked up for a long time for possession of 🌽of a minor and more specifically a person who he considered a daughter? Yes. That's not a good man. Regardless I don't think that's a man fit to be part of society.
People who are rapists and have done horrible disturbing murders get away with it but here the victim gets LIFE in prison??!
He took private photos without her permission, did not share em, did not touch her in any bad way? Sure it's disgusting, but did she have the right to kill him? No of course not! Justifying someones muderer over being a peeping wierdo is so dumb and in character with you american snowflakes-_-
Maybe she didn’t just go crazy maybe she was his beneficiary as it said she was his power of attorney.
Maybe this was just her excuse to end him to get paid
@@Monica-bp2pdthe commenter wasn't talking about her, their spoke facts, rap*sts get basically no punishment
Well not saying rape shouldn’t get more time but murder is a bit higher than rape.
Okay you literally just said people who do murders deserve life in prison!!! What the fuck do you think she just did!?
This is a creepy old perverted fucking man. He should have got some years behind this and then she wouldn't have had to look over her shoulder all the time. You guys are insane who thinks that she's the one and only victim in this. The me too movement has brainwashed you guys into thinking straight victim mentality without ever thinking there could be two victims in this case. Which there is
I don’t think she deserved such a severe sentence. That pedofilia and sexual thoughts towards her, as like a daughter, must be violating to her privacy, trust and self. That would bound to make someone to think more irrationally and push them to a place, they would have rather never reached
He had her adult pictures not pictures of her as a child, he didn’t need to die there were so many other ways to handle this situation that didn’t include throwing her life away, she deserves it
@@jaydavis3034 actually some of the pics where when she was 16.... So yeah he got what he deserved. 🤷
@@mehgandanae1663 must’ve missed that part, if it’s true than ya
@@mehgandanae1663 got a link? Everything I see points to just having her pictures as an adult
@@jaydavis3034 link? Bro just watch the video, when it first was revealed he had pics of her she mentioned some even when she was a minor. Whether she was or wasn’t doesn’t even help the case. She saw him as a father and she thought her saw her as a daughter.
All the men around her failed her. They either ran away or refused to help her. Instead of being enablers and cowards, they needed to be the voice of reason and talk her out of her head, get her to the police, and then straight to a therapist. She surrounded herself with no-good scumbags. Should have been a reason of insanity case. How they portrayed her was bad. Terrible lawyers.
I know right, fuck those guys, she needed help, finding out your dad did al that would make anyone snap
Her biological dad and brother didn't fail though.
Every man involved in her case did fail her, though you are right in that aspect
Now if the gender roles were reversed in this case, you probably wouldn't have said the same thing. We and only we are responsible for the bad decisions that we've made in our lives.
@@ashashraa6579 truueeeeeee
@ashashraa6579 sooo u r saying tht the men mentioned in the case r perfect . And they shouldn't be blamed (cuz they re men)????
Do people not understand the position she was in?? Sexual abuse victims are OFTEN not listened to, even with evidence. She was facing court battles where the society is most definitely not on her side. Additionally, if he got out with no time or a slap on the wrist, she was facing a lifetime of fear and connection to him because her family likely would take his side. This was such a lose lose situation for her, and TBH, I might also choose his death and me getting time in prison rather than a lifetime of family/societal betrayal PLUS living in fear of him
No one cares
@@ve_rbself report, I pray for every woman around you.
@@angelaa7445 thx babe
Oh I perfectly understand what she must have been feeling.
I can't feel bad for a murderer though.
You don't become the devil to kill the devil.
There are tons of abuse victims still alive and spreading positivity.
There are always better ways to react unless you're in a position on self defense
I mean she did find concrete evidence of herself (while as a minor as well) but yet decided to go for premeditated murder. No excuse. Justified punishment
They rarely give life sentences to the right people.
It sounds like she went insane. I think Stephanie is right, seeing the photos might have brought back horrible memories and triggered PTSD. Jade definitely wasn't in her right mind when everything went down. I wish there had been someone on her side who wasn't sketchy, someone who could help her process everything she was going through. It sounds like she didn't have any "safe people" in her life, and that's so sad
Yet the intro said she was so bright and charming, a great networker, liked by everyone
@@michelleobrien6996 that was before she saw her nude photos all over the laptop of the person she was raised by and trusted. everyone puts on a bright look for work so that has no merit lol
@@michelleobrien6996 not saying shes suicidal but most depressed people, abused people, victims, or just people who have hard lives can seem happy and bubbly. Its acting and coping. - talking from experience and from people i know.
@@gigiearth She wasn't actually raised by Tom. She first met Tom when she was 13, when he married her mother. But her mother didn't raise her. She lived with Steve until she became an adult and moved out at 18. At 19, she moved back in with her mother (and Tom) to help raise her half brother. But at this point, she was already an adult.
What happened to Steve? He seems to have dropped out of the story and her life completely at some point. Did he die? Did he moved back to South Africa? What happened to his company? Why didn't she inherit it?
Is more messed up the fact that she viewed him as a trusting loving step dad to even call him father means a lot and then he secretly takes nude pics of her did he ever really view her as his own child and not a body part…
It's worse if he did view her as his child..
its absolutely disgusting. he definitely deserved what was coming to him
And did he ever distribute those photos… 😒
I wonder if the cops even looked into this angle. Since they treated him as the victim I wouldn’t be surprised if they didn’t.
JUSTICE FOR JADE, can we make a rally for this so her sentence can be below 10 years at least...
Coming from someone with predators in their family too,i wish someone would've helped her,the justice system usually fails victims and the predators never stop.
If the victims are family there's less chance it'd be reported let alone result in an actual conviction I think she should've got therapy and community service(even tho she definitely did the community a service)
“No one deserved to get murdered” yes they do 😙 But in all seriousness all my respect and sorrows goes her and her family
I feel like jade was going through a bought of insanity due to the revelations on Tom’s computer. I genuinely sounds like she’s slowly losing her mind and in her crazed and traumatized state she might’ve believed that the only way to feel sane again is to kill Tom, to kill the source of the insanity.
Bout* lol
I was thinking the same thing, these circumstances are a little different to other revenge murders...🤔👍.
@@OnlyLilynn44 hope u r safe and away frm him now
thank you so much for sharing this, it’s incredibly vulnerable and it helps shine a light on the troubling mental state that can overwhelm good people who’ve experienced trauma. i hope you never think less of yourself for this and i hope your life situation has improved since then. much love ♥️
I agree. I never took it into my hands but the night I told my sister what had been done to me by my step dad while drinking (I was outside getting myself together) and it turns out she went into the home grabbed a knife and held him up against a door as she accused him of such. She didn’t hurt him w it when the cops came she was taken into a facility and released days later but ofc what she accused him of wasn’t mentioned to the cops just her aggressive and ofc the knife. I had no idea she was doing that, still can’t believe it happened but I’m here to say that even afterwards, you may think you’re doing the right thing but in a way you’re not and unfortunately it’s regardless of what a person has done to you
If my stepfather had done something like that... I would've gone completely crazy. He passed away 2 years ago and I'm still shaking just typing this because he was the best person I knew. This would have shattered my world. This woman deserves to get help, not to be imprisoned.
@@mapsrightsarevalid7554 you cant help a creppy pervert theyre just go back to their old ways .if that guy wanted to get any help or had any morals he would've went straight to a therapist to discuss the way he feels instead he gets her personal photos and videos and watches them for his disgusting lust. to lust after your stepdaughter is fucking nasty the person you raised from a baby to an adult and then think its ok. im glad there is one less perverted creep on this earth but im pretty sure there is millions more who take his place.
@Maps rights are valid I was going to say imagine sympathizing more for a p*** in a situation like this and then I read your name.
What rights are you referring to? Pretty sure no one has a right to hurt children. You do realize that the trauma those kids experience can negatively affect them for their whole lives? Sometimes making them repeat the cycle or in this case drove someone to this.
Not saying she's completely irresponsible for her actions but he should've gotten help before his actions caused this domino effect. Arguably her life is ruined because of the mental breakdown he caused
@Maps rights are valid you have no place in this comment section
@@lolaBee9 YES-
You said it all
@Maps rights are valid He had photos of her since she was 16, sixteen, imagine someone keeping naked pics of your sixteen year old kid or your sister, you can't right? exactly.
It feels icky that Alan slept with her during such a deeply vulnerable time. She just discovered another man in her life (one of her father figures no less) was sexually abusing her and, while I'm not saying that's what Alan did, it feels like he took advantage of her.
oh so someone can get a lesser sentence because of "gay panic" aka killing a gay person because they were so disgusted that they might have been an object of affection that they lost their mind and killed someone, but if your father figure stole sexually explicit photos of you since you were a minor you get life. Okay.
I’ve heard of this case and it’s just diabolical imagine trusting and believing in someone who is supposed to be your ‘father’. It’s disgusting. I hope she’s able to heal and move on to a better future if shes ever released 😢
Better help? No, they aren't licensed. They are basically just listeners. Unless they are therapists in your state they are NOT a real therapists. So do your homework.
@@pamelacurran2733 huh???
@@pamelacurran2733 I think you commented this in the wrong thread bud lol
@Pamela Curran they said "a better future" not anything about the company "Better Help".
@@UsrNmTkn some people just want an excuse to rage...so much so they don't READ before they REPLY lmao. Poor Pamela Curran...now you just look silly
I wouldn't never feel like m*rder is the solution, but I honestly believe how she felt so unsafe, disgusted and traumatized. People tend to overlook how hard it is to accept that the person you trust the most, betrayed you like that, it so heartbreaking, even though she'll be in jail, I wish she heals
What else do you think is the solution, jailtime you think she will be mentally okay with him being still alive.
@@jenylass1521 that’s hardly an excuse to kill someone 😂 she was dumb and deserves what she gets, not rooting for the guy but there’s so many different ways to handle it
@@jaydavis3034 like ?
@@jenylass1521 first off her being mentally ok if he’s alive means nothing in the eyes of the law so idk what you’re getting at 🤷♂️ she would’ve been fine he only had pictures of her, he didn’t r*pe her. Second she acted too brash and that’s why she got caught lol there’s a million smarter ways she could’ve done it without being caught or she could’ve ridiculed and outed him to everyone they knew and I’m sure there’s something the police could have done about it too. Either way no matter how you spin it she has no legal excuse to stand on 🤷♂️ the fact is she made a dumb decision and threw the rest of her life away for it. I’m sure prison is SO much better for her mental health.
@@jenylass1521 I didn't say she will be okay if he was still alive. Don't assume things based in one comment. I don't think she would be okay, but if police took more seriously the whole thing about having nudes and videos of her he could have been in jail for a good amount of time and away from her. She could have the time to move somewhere else and heal away from that creepy bastard.
To me it seems to me everyone is dismissing the fact he took pictures of her, since she was 16 without her consent and unknowingly, and not any kind of pictures, and life sentence years too, a lot serial killers, people who torcher people for months without end, get less sentences than that and even get let out early.
He didn’t take the pictures, in the beginning Stephanie says that Jade took the photos of herself and she didn’t send them to the stepdad so he must have taken them from her computer and camera which he had access to. Just wanted to clear that up.
Also it’s torture*
He did take photos of her in the shower as a child tho. Its still a very violating and deplorable thing to sexualize a relationship where one sees you as a parent and you see them as nothing but a sex object that you can pleasure yourself too, epsecially if you knew them as a child and did this when they were a child.@@artsyfartsynerdywordy
Her sleeping with that guy is used as "evidence" she wasn't traumatized??
Uhhhh... People know women traumatized like that can end up coping with it exactly by sleeping with people, right? It's a known thing that women in distress are easier to seduce (hence why men might try to hook up with women who were just cheated on/was divorced/experienced a family loss/etc).
Like, this is so known, they're literally making jokes about it constantly in shows (seducing grieving women at a funeral), and so on.
Jeez, people.
I once heard a guy "joke" that the abortion clinic was the best place to pick up women cuz they're vulnerable and bc "you know they put out".
she gets life in prison for retaliating against someone who violated her like that, and from such a young age, meanwhile sa perpetrators and people who commit other terrible crimes can get a few years or even just months in jail..
literally. it’ll never cease to amaze me, how rapists get shorter sentences than people who kill in self denfense. not that murder is justifiable, but people dont sa other people in self defense…
Murder is not the same they are both violating and horrible but to kill him like end he’s life is way beyond wrong
@@He.loves.Me. murder is the way. Sometimes justice must be taken into ones own hands.
@@titandarknight2698 it was so beyond disgusting what he did to someone he considered he’s daughter but he kinda deserved it I mean don’t get me wrong I totally disagree with her approach to trie and kill him but still she murdered what in the eyes of law was never guilty
Child rapists in Florida now eligible for death penalty! Progress baby!
I reaaaaaaally think she should have been more thoroughly evaluated. This seemed like a crime of insanity.
Maybe they went hard because she wouldn’t admit it, hopefully now the second time round when they appeal it she gets a quarter of her time
Agreed
@@Jessicaaaaa12345 What she did to him was far worse than what he did to her. Just because she was angry at him doesn't justify murder. If a woman had naked pictures of her step son and he killed her over it, most people wouldn't be calling the son "insane" and saying he should get less time.
@@greywolf7577child prawn is child prawn props to the pretend son in this situation
insanity is kind of a harmful word especially towards a victim of lifelong abuse and sa! 👍
As someone who has also been in a situation like this, any man who steps into a situation like this as an “I’ll help you” figure and is having sexual relations with the victim- is also engaging in predatory behavior. The guy who was supposedly most in his right mind, never contacted authorities about this situation until after something lethal occurred- and then claims murder plans and brags about having a sexual relationship with the defense. Alan Roach definitely took advantage of a woman who cannot think for her self and instead of facing any backlash for co conspiracy, when he’s the only “sane” person involved, the justice system invited him to testify AGAINST HER, and claim innocence by further defiling her, now her character. Gross.
I think there is a high chance this guy did more than keep photos of her. People who are willing to violate and breach a person’s privacy and boundaries to that extent almost always escalate. Like how flashers usually escalate to SA. I feel so bad for her. This isn’t just a matter of a guy violating her trust, it’s a man she’s known, loved, and even taken care of for years of her life starting from when she was a child. I’m not glad he’s dead but I also don’t feel bad for Tom at all. There are too many true victims out there to waste empathy on trash like him.
Or maybe people who come up with such ideas have themselves as models?
There is no evidence of anything such happening, and Jade herself could not produce any.
I went through this with my stepdad when I was 19, and I'm not going to lie, i was so out of mind that I thought about murder also, but ultimately moved very very far away and didn't speak to him for years. I only spoke to him when I couldn't avoid it. The icing on the cake was mom stayed married to him.. It's very traumatizing, and every photo is like being raped, and you wonder what they did with them, how many times, etc. I know that it took years for me to not think about it every hour of every day.. It's such a violating thing to have happen to someone. I still don't know how far back the photos went, and I moved in with my mom and him when I was 12. If she did, she was truly out of her damn mind and her attorney should've fought for the temporary insanity defense and I'm surprised they didn't.. You truly do go insane and are extremely paranoid about cameras, video cameras, etc. At least in my experience i was.. I constantly checked apartments and every single place I worked, lived at, etc. For years and years, paranoid that it would happen again.. I can't imagine how she felt knowing it went back decades and decades.. I'm not saying she made the right decision IF she did help with his death, but I can say she absolutely wasn't in her right mind at the time and she should absolutely hire another lawyer who can properly defend her.
I'm so sorry u had to go through that..
After I realized I was mole$sted for 7yrs of my life (I was young when it started and didn’t know anything and at first I just thought I was loved and felt attractive and wanted but I never felt comfortable or even wanted it when I started get older but couldn’t say no) I honestly thought ways of torturing the two boys because I felt betrayed as they were distant family and completely violated and it was so hard to talk to my family about it because they’re the type to push stuff under the rug well thankfully they didn’t but the law couldn’t do shit because “we were all minors” not to mention I’ve been in a coerced consented r@p3 case that the police treated me as the criminal and I don’t even think that talked to the guy who even admitted and apologized about it that day
sure..
this is my exact fear, i'm a minor, but in every hotel, every changing room, even my own room, i always check for cameras. i can't risk anything. i've been doing this since i was 11 or 12, because im so afraid of this thing happening. i can't even trust adults around me anymore because of my paranoia. and i don't know why. i don't know what got me so paranoid, i can't remember anything like this happening to me
@@IO279K4RMN if this is sarcasm, i highly doubt a story like this would be faked. even if it was, it's a very real thing that have happened to countless people. i mean this entire video is about a similar situation unfolding, so i really think this comment is true
This is a wild case. The audacity of a man is bewildering. I’m truly disgusted by this man.
he dead tho
Still disgusting
@@tuxedo_ri there's so many more people exactly like him though which makes it worse
@@tuxedo_ri that’s like saying you hate hitler then someone goes “yeah but he’s dead tho”
@@r.1.336 did you just equalize literally murderer of entire countries of people and one pedo who killed no one.
bruh this is nonsense..
this pedo that didnt physically assault her once at minimum did recieve what he deserved, his punishment. from the victim herself and good for her i guess.
but she's in jail for life now. was it worth it for her idk
the fact that she felt like she had to do that in the first place because she knew the justice system would fail her is so sad.
As someone who had expirienced sa from a trusted person, a friend, i can say that she did not deserve any time in prison at all. Being honest the dude deserved what came for him
'No one deserves to be killed' but they do, you never really get it until it happens to you
People don't understand how much something like this can break you, can leave you in shock, disgust, and just feeling like everything you ever knew was a lie. The shock from that is something that is something people can't understand without living it.
Everything you just said is exactly the reason why we don't let people who are personally affected by situations decide the punishment.
@@thereseemstobeenanerror1219I haven't been in this exact situation and I think evil people should die. If they live they'll just be let out to do it again and again and again and why should we let them???
It makes sense to keep innocent people of all ages and genders and whatever else safe.
Sorry if it makes me evil but I have to share the planet with humans as much as you do.
@@Roadent1241
What you just typed doesn't make you evil, just irresponsible.
Because now you've just given people permission to kill those, they deem evil.
I'm sure you're smart enough to recognize how something like that could quickly spiral.
@@thereseemstobeenanerror1219 Well then I'll set boundaries.
Evil = people who hurt or kill innocent humans and animals. Simple.
The epitome of "It was murder but not a crime"
cell block tango! fr though
Murder is always a crime
@@mikehunt1771in this context it’s better though
@@mikehunt1771 it's from a song
Reminder that the highest percentage of rape within the domestic home happens between a step father and his step daughter 😟☹️
Yet ppl wanna fetishize it, its disgusting.
@@lulu_Lm exactly I searched the news article of this case and people accused her of sleeping with her dad and that she checked his computer to see if there was a home wrecker. what types of movies are they watching to get those thoughts.
WHAT?! I never knew this, this is horrid
Still not a reason to premeditating a killing
@@weepo2651you’re only outing yourself here
I stand with Jade. This woman was driven out of her mind with trauma and the system has failed her.
Life? Not fair, rapists and murders get 3 months. Free her!!!
I relate to this case. When I was in my early twenties (about ten years ago now), my sister’s ex-husband would regularly do updates and settings changes for me on my phone. One day I asked for it back quickly when he had it, and when I went into my photos, the first thing that came up were nude photos I had taken. That means that he was looking at them, and had to exit out quickly. And they were buried pretty far into my photos.
I’ve never told anyone. I still feel so icky and betrayed, and like it was my fault for having those on my phone, but it’s not my fault. I thought I had a ‘brother’. Now I wonder how far back that went. If he sent them to his phone. It almost feels like a sexual assault, honestly.
I’m so sorry that that happened to you
Btw google has all your nudes also. There's probably pervos who go through people's nudes at google. Nudes aren't really safe overall, that sucks tho.
This is why I NEVER allow ANYONE to use my unlocked phone, for any reason. I'm so sorry this happened to you.
I'm so sorry this happened to you. Hopefully, he's out of your life now.
@@ha1hy291 literally delete your comment that’s so disgusting and rude.
Stephanie blessing us with so much content (literally everyday) even though she’s busy, THANK YOU STEPHANIEE
Fr, like I need a daily dose of Stephanie or else the day sucks
It’s how she makes money 🩷🩷🩷
@@VanMorgue yeah that’s probably right, but if she doesn’t post for a few days she won’t make any less money so the fact that she’s taking her time sorting everything out while being busy with her own life is really sweet imo 💁🏻♀️
I play her every night when I go to bed and she plays all night long thru YT 😂😂I love the way these 2 tell the stories , she makes me feel like she is telling me the story too, I really do appreciate Stephanie’s way of presenting info to us ❤❤
I had a "father figure" when I was a teenager who I suspected might have been grooming me or at the very least was attracted to me. But I was a people pleaser and didn't know how to deal with feeling uncomfortable around him. But just the THOUGHT of him thinking of me like that (and also some of the creepy memories I have of him) disturbs me to this day. I can only imagine how she must have felt to have the truth so brazenly exposed to her 😥
I can’t even imagine being in her place, seeing pictures of yourself like that in the hands of someone you trusted with your life. The betrayal must have been heart breaking for her😞
Im literally shaking thinking of it. now this, THIS, is why im paranoid
According to the autopsy, she's not responsible for Tom's death. It does sound like a PTSD type of reaction for Jade and, on some level, she felt threatened. Not guilty. He started it.
He started it? Lmao we’re adults now Stephanie, that hardly holds up in court 😂
The USA is such a disgusting country. "he started it" so = murder? She told a pack of lies to try and conceal the murder and claims she destroyed the evidence that the phot's even existed so it is just her word which is worth nothing. I can see now why schoolkids are routinely drilled for active shooters.
@@jaydavis3034 yes her started it maybe don’t go taking nude photos of someone you considered your daughter and be a pedo
@@jaydavis3034 being a adult doesn’t mean anything in this situation
Interesting. If (for example) a person is already dead and then someone tries to kill that person... they would be guilty of attempted murder, but not guilty of murder because they didn't cause the person's death??
i don't blame her. i found out something similiar once and it all came crashing down on me and brought up many memories and traumas i ignored, thought was normal or my brain tried to hide away. i only acted out on my self, but i can imagine the confusion, hurt and anger she felt causing her to bring that on him. she deserves help not more pain.
@greywolf7577 cry about it
So true 🖤
The butterfly farm was actually a beautiful thing and having the butterfly fly away to symbolize. Letting go of grief is so powerful. After my mother passed away I saw a baby butterfly flying around after I said a prayer asking if she was okay and if she was with God. And then on my wedding day I cried out to God wanting to know with my mom and dad were there with me and when I open my eyes two butterflies came down and literally hit me right in the face. So butterflies hold a special place in my heart as a symbol of renewal after loss. I know that's totally off topic but you did talk about this and it affected me like it did you when you got emotional
WHAT!? She just should serve a decent amount in prison for killing a human, but understand her situation!! Her life crumbled down and was spiraling, SHE WAS ALONE!! SCREAMING FOR HELP!!
It's crazy I was never told to be wary of older men. But being in the city I noticed creeps and their sexual inuendos. It made me very weary and fearful of my own uncles
Same
To be fair, you’re more likely to be murdered by someone you know, than by some stranger, same goes for sexual crimes.
Sexual harassment is rampent though
In the past, I reckon those subject were more taboo. I was nine and sitting on a bus when an old dude sat next to me and tried to touch my legs, nobody had ever warned me about that sort of thing so I was very confused, luckily I had enough sense to get off the bus immediately.
You have to watchful with older men. I had one that wouldn't take no for answer and kept trying to put their hands on me. To add to it he stock me. At the time I worked at 24 hr gas station
@@eveFlower101 omg had the same experience. I was 8
i can't say i agree with murder but for cases like these, i don't know what to think because if this happened to me, i don't even know what i'd be capable of doing.
same honestly. its very heavy to judge here who did more wrong, to what degree she is right.. overall sad world we live in
sometimes in situations like these u have to turn the other cheek, if ppl can defend fictional anti hero’s then what’s diff abt non fiction. he crossed a line between humanity and inhumane, he got his karma
@@coochiesl4yer696and now she got hers go to the cops first and if nothing happens then leave
@@weepo2651bro is defending this dude with his life 😭😭 disgusting
@@user-lu4ny6we8f he probably defends the dude just to validate his own view he prob would do the exact same thing 💀💀 i hope everyone stays far away from them irl.
She needed psychological help,not jailtime.
well if she wanted help, maybe she shouldn't have murdered someone
@@StarfishGoneToxicmaybe if Tom didn’t want to be murdered, he shouldn’t have done that to his step daughter 🤷♀️
Mental illness is a shit show. It’s under researched and can destroy your entire life. She was massively unstable. If she had the opportunity to get help I don’t think she would’ve killed him.
@@cloudyskyz2237 doesnt take away from the fact that she murdered someone, sorry
@@StarfishGoneToxic a schizophrenic guy premeditatedly murdered a random woman. He got no jail time cause he was mentally unstable.
She was (is) mentally unstable. Why can she not get the same treatment as him?
I’m not saying what they did was ok, I’m saying that she got too much. And honestly, I think murders that happened because of mental instability (not necessarily all people with mental illnesses, like psychopathy), should default to ALSO getting mental health help, along with a sentencing.
@@cloudyskyz2237 they should have both gotten life
My take? She was everything but cold-blooded. It's not like she planned it months prior. She saw those pictures, went crazy, and came up with a plan, which might seem organized, but in fact it was a mess. If she really wanted to do that, she would certainly ask herself "Is it really the only way? Am I going to regret this later?". The only thing she knew is that her world shattered, and knowing that he was her only real family, besides her biological father, is heartbreaking.
I am not looking for excuses, because murder can't be excused. If an excuse can't be made, we always seek for explanation. And my view on this case is that the love for him suddenly turned into fear, which is the worst thing that happen when it comes to relatives. I don't know what was going on in her head when she saw those pictures, so I can only imagine
Strangely, I believe in Jade's words. Cuz her story is consistent with different people and the way she telling her stories is consistent and detailed too
Even if Jade is telling the truth, it still doesn't justify what she did.
@@greywolf7577if she's telling the truth, then she wasn't entirely guilty and a cold blooded murderer
@@soghettu legally speaking she committed 1st degree murder so semantics don’t really matter
She admitted it at the end of the video and apologized to his family
Although I’ve never been close to my stepdad, I can relate with jade in the feeling of betrayal and disgust. My stepdad was CAUGHT on several occasions peeping in the bathroom window when my sisters and I were taking showers. He tried to watch us get out of the shower when we’re reaching for a towel. It’s horrifying. And when I was 18 I used his computer to print something and the most recent website on his google browser was “barely leagal 18 year old college girls”. He also recently made a comment about how beautiful my pregnant body is and I’m just terrified to be around him anymore. P.s. my mom has never left him and I do hold this against her but she’s got a lot of trauma and abuse that’s warped her way of thinking so I can’t entirely hate her
Dang. I feel like I've had something similar, but my mom and family just shrug it off, so i don't even know if my experience is just paranoia, but i feel for you
@@hiiii2873 please don’t just chalk it up to paranoia. Speak to someone outside of your family. Or your friends. One way we caught my stepdad was my brother would move something in front of the window and if it moved later we knew. Not saying set traps but please talk to someone outside of your family if they’re not listening. You don’t have to be legal to be worried or get help. I honestly wish I had spoken out to an authority figure sooner or on my own.
@@Mumblesmcghee69this.
This is so common it's sickening. And some men wonder why we are extra cautious and paranoid. I have too many stories like this
@@kweenz109 I’m so disturbed how common this is. I still struggle to this day to be around men with the similar body type or attributes to my stepdad. And it’s almost impossible to be around him all together. But I play nice for everyone’s sake. Even though he doesn’t deserve it.
stephanie i respect you so much! you’re such a great and compassionate story teller and you really make us understand every person in the story and their perspective and literally their backstory. i love watching this channel so much
I feel like he deserved it 🤷🏽♀️ a lot of men find women who are single with kids. That’s sad and she’s right he would’ve served little to no time
this is more complex than people realize, she's not a hero she needed help but no one was there to help her, seeing those pictures made her snap, he needed to be confronted with the pictures first at the least
She kinda did she had called him and his only reaction or response was to tell her to just delete them.
@**Joleen** exactly, that terrible friend, basically just shrugged his shoulders to her, she was having a mental break down.
@@bradcha5413 oh I'm sorry that's my mistake 😅 I was doing dishes and thought she had called him. Went back and relistened.
@**Joleen** oh yeah she never confronted him
@@bradcha5413 yeah I see that now so it is kindve fucked up. Personally I would have called an officer out once they got home. Trying to say that he wouldn't get much time for the crime, but he technically had child pornography on it so that would be a different crime and who knows if he had sent them anywhere . Regardless he drinks and takes meds , he wouldn't last long in jail and being so old he's nearing the end of his time as is. I could see her snapping , but she had other options while he was in the hospital even.
Not gonna lie, one of the saddest parts of this story was the mom forgetting it was Cash’s first day of kindergarten. That is so sad 😭
Ikr😭
fax! 😣
and whats also sad is cashs name. like who would give such name to their kid??? im not an english native speaker tho so maybe its normal? maybe its "richard dick" situation? 😧😧
@@tuxedo_ri haha cash is like a western name! I haven’t heard many ppl with it but i’m in Australia and a recent series came out called heartbreak high and one of the characters is cash-the first time I heard the name! So I think it’s in western countries!!
@@shireenk865 oh lol thank u 😹
i mean i heard abt johnny cash but its surname..
@@tuxedo_riLMAOO😭😭 ik it looks weird but it’s actually normal for western names. cash/kash, it’s more common as one would think
Hi, Stephanie! I love your story telling skills that are so respectful yet so absolutely encapsulating 👏🏽
he definitely deserved it. he honestly got off easy. what a disgusting, vile, maggot of a man. ew. ew ew ew ew. i have absolutely no sympathy for a predator.
How do you even manage your time so well? 😭 I’ve been watching you for three years now & you never fail to amaze me 🥺❤
I can’t help but feel like there is more to the story and that the pictures served as a catalyst. I was molested when I was younger and while I didn’t remember much of my childhood I had this one memory that stuck with me and made me feel uncomfortable. It wasn’t until I had a realisation as an adult that I understood what had actually happened/ that it was wrong and with therapy I uncovered more of it. The human mind can do a lot of things to minimise trauma; we’ll think things weren’t that bad etc when really they were. It caused a ripple effect for me where I questioned every interaction and realised just how inappropriate they were. Just speculation but I think it was the same for her, which is why she really spiralled, not just because of the pictures. I could be wrong.
You are one of the top storytellers! I just found your page and I'm a fan! I get sooo engrossed in your story.
Tbh I might’ve done the same thing. She was clearly traumatized and scared and in a desperate and panicked state. she felt that she had no one to turn to and she had no idea what to do. How do you live with knowing the man you looked at as a father did that? She didn’t think to turn to the police for help, and that alone speaks volumes abt the system. I don’t think she’s a villain or an anti hero, I think she’s a victim.
Also the guy she called for help, Allen, immediately sleeping with her/initiating a sexual relationship on their first meeting right after she found the photos?? That’s messed up, she was clearly not in her right mind. Every man in this story failed her immensely in so many ways
listened to this one on the podcast, and as much as she was deserving of her punishment i do think there was not enough importance placed on the fact that she was suffering mentally. i do think the killing was a lot less cold blooded than people give it credit for.
I don't think she deserved her punishment at all.
@@chickensalad3535 bruv, she killed a human being over photos, yes it’s disgusting but he didn’t abuse her physically nor mentally
@@RizZRizZ- “She killed a human over photos” as if they weren’t nude photos of his DAUGHTER, weirdo.
@@RizZRizZ- he did abuse her mentally, the Discovery of those photos Made her dangerously paranoid and insecure
@@RizZRizZ-he abused her sexually! Fixed your comment for you!
i’ve been through something similar. i understand her feelings exactly. it feels like the only way for them not to hurt u anymore is for them to be gone..
I wouldn’t be able to sleep at night with the fear that he would be thinking of me and fantasizing in that moment.
Anyone who defends the stepfather has never been in a situation like that, guaranteed. I'm a survivor of CSA by a family member. Of course I'd never murder the perpetrator, but I can completely understand losing your mind after you realize what's been done to you. If someone in your life who had authority over you and was meant to protect you ended up exploiting you sexually as a child, you'd understand. This realization was also very new for her, she's just finding this out all at once. I think everyone forgets how loving she was toward him. Literally no one saw this coming because she always did everything she could do to care for him. Jade deserves some semblance of empathy for that. I wish she hadn't murdered him because I think that was an easy way out after what he did.
As a non English speaker, I am grateful for your clear English and the way you tell these fascinating stories.
Considering she was an adult and discovered pictures from her childhood and remembered incidents from that time, she may have realized that the time frame to report him had expired. I believe they don't take these reports seriously if being reported after 20 years from what I remember
yes, this was precisely what I was thinking. I mean it's so easy for people (& even Stephanie) to say to go to the police, but I'm pretty sure there is a specific time frame to report SA
Except if he still had those pictures, he was currently in possession of cp in which she could've gotten charges on him for. No statue on tht if he literally still had them in his possession
@@deziiluv Yes he would be labelled a predator and it would have cost her ZERO prison time.
@peterc4082 exactly. Deleting them would do her injustice n even if she deleted them I'm like 95% sure they could still recover it from the hard drive of the computer or something cuz I doubt they r smart enough to COMPLETELY wipe it as if it was a factory set computer. Thts usually how they catch people by recovering data on the computer or something like tht.
@@deziiluv Correct. And always report to the law. The guy would be labelled a deviant and it would be incredibly embarrassing for him and he may have faced charges etc. But taking the law into one's hands is not on. Doing so in direct self defense is justifiable but this was not self defense. Murder in affect I suppose. In Europe she'd get like 5 years as heavy murderers get 15-20 years in EU.
its crazy how you really dont know how a person is really like even though youre super close to them
fr she was just viewing one side of him even tho they were really close and wholesome and all
I agree. All those years and noone suspected she was a murderer.
@@Flintlockon and all these years now one suspected he was a pedo who takes pictures of her nude without her permission when she saw her as a father figure
@@iamthatgirl_ There is zero evidence that the photos ever existed on his computer. She claimed she removed and destroyed the hard drive and the computer and then told a pack of lies to try and get away with it with murdering a human being. Just as likely she made up that story as well.
“Why didn’t she go to the police”🙄 Well because he wouldn’t have received even a fraction of her sentence. They probably would’ve put him on probation, that’s why. I hope her sentence is overturned and she gets out with time served.
I was aware of this story from other UA-cam creators but you provide so much more detail that a true crime addict like myself really appreciates! Your research definitely deserves a like and subscribe. Great job!
this case reminds of the times when i was reeeeeally young like 4 years old young when my mom would tell me that if anyone ever touches me to tell her. that it doesnt matter who, uncle, dad, sister etc doesnt matter. she engrained that into my mind and im so glad that she did. bc she made sure i learned that most SAers are ppl you know and trust :(
my mom never told me those things, except don't follow strangers. good thing that nothing bad ever happened to me, but, i am worried for my future kid/kids. i might have to do what your mom does. i just...not sure when they will understand when they are so young.
@@Amynity my mom has been telling me this since i was VERY young, like probably so young i cant even remember it, i just know its something shes drilled in my head whenever im alone. im sure there are things like books or videos that teaches parents how to tell their kids about this sort of stuff
@@Amynity 90% of abuse is in the family or someone the child knows. Stranger danger is relatively rare. Greater risk of death from a car accident.
Stephanie, I know I, and others, have said it before, but I really appreciate how you explain these cases with such empathy and compassion. I cherish your generosity with your time, that you want to spend your time researching speaking, these cases, and your understanding of psychology that helps people bring compassion to the people in these cases.
I just found your channel. You are one of the best true crime channels on UA-cam. Thank you for your hard work bringing us these fascinating crimes.
Tip from a former junkie: there are 2 major types of addiction withdrawls that can lead to death if not done under medical observation; alcohol withdrawl and benzodiazapine (xanax, clonapin, etc.) withdrawal. The fact that he mixed alcohol and xanax together is really not good. It can cause something called "the multiplier effect" which basically means that mixing them will make you more high than if you took them separately and you might accidentally overdose because of it. Ive been clean and sober for 13 years (thank you God), and i spend a lot of my free time now trying to educate the family members of active users. Junkies wont get clean unless they want to, but most families either dont know that or don't understand everything that entails. If the user doesnt want my help, i can atleast help their families understand the mind of a drug addict.
4 months sober from liquor! How are you doing?
Not many people are talking about the horrible people that surrounded Jade. They ALL seem to be men, and have shady pasts. This is only what I’ve heard from the video but regardless, this would make a huge impact on her decisions, along with the way she would have reacted to this unfortunate situation
But all the men did the right thing and decided not to help her murder her step father. In this story, all of the men end up being more ethical than Jade.
I think she honestly wasn’t as innocent a person that people knew shady people hang with shady people including jade
@@greywolf7577sounds like something a pedophile would say
@@greywolf7577 bro what? before she even thought of murder, when all she needed was comfort and to calm herself down during a mental breakdown, her *male* friend just shrugged it off and downplayed her emotions.
the only one who actually did help was her FEMALE friend, who understood.
and her stepfather OBVIOUSLY was no help, he's a terrible human being like i dont care what you say, no matter how 'good' of a person you are, being as perverted and disgusting and p3dophilic as that, no excuse.
@@greywolf7577men defend pedophile men because they relate to their love of rape and children
Bro Stephanie makes me feel so immersed in the stories it’s really addictive and stephaince is just representing me it would be amazing if you do the case of Daniel Wozniak who killed two people to pay for his wedding it would be amazing and really immersive if Stephanie covered the case
I love heroes. They are so rare I can’t even start to find them boring
To the youtuber, you are in your element of the storyteller. I enjoy it. I feel so many things. Thank you so much for making these videos. Please keep making them. I enjoy them so much and they get me
I feel her pain, I’m someone who was gr*omed for over a decade by family, a family friend and friend. I’m 20 man,shit sucks. Also the paranoia is so dangerous
This is hard for me because I had a step dad who was sexually exploitative, but I never killed him. Though I can’t say that if I’d of found him hat she did I wouldn’t do the same. I don’t know if I can blame her despite our differences.
yes, but ppl have more strength to resist urges, everyone has been through something similar but not everyone reacts in the same way. this poor girl had enough
She did murder, though. I wouldn't cry if she got the death penalty.
@@greywolf7577 logically this is true but morally wrong. only a thing so sick that takes photos of u inappropriate for the last years. he crossed the line with humanity, no normal person does things like this, but instead monsters
@@greywolf7577 She was literally in the same house with a child predator, one that was also her creepy step-dad. She could have easily been raped anytime. I know murder is bad but like she literally killed the man who took nude pictures of her as a child, i think it was plenty deserved.
@@greywolf7577she didn't murder him, he deserves the death penalty though and he thankfully received it 😊
Trying to make moral judgments in a system that leaves victims of sexual abuse without any protection or access to justice is insanity. We live in a rape culture. Murder will always be a norm in a society that normalizes torture.
moids gonna moid, shes a hero and men will defend pedophilia even if they pretend to hate pedos themselves
so true
I feel bad for Jade I could only imagine that level of betrayal 😢
Soo scary how the world is. Thank You Stephanie for educating me in all these cases! ❤
Love your channel and story telling!! I also want to commend you on your intros - the only intros I don’t want to skip haha
went through something similar, but just as traumatizing. i have a step father who i called "Dad". he and i were closer than i was with my bio dad and we bonded over the fact we both had horrible childhoods. he was a registered sex offender but everyone said "oh he was a coach for little boys soccer and there was a kid named BJ. the other kids made suggestive jokes to bully him and one day he had enough and asked the kids if they even know what BJ means. when they said no, he explained what it meant to them. the kids told their parents and they called the police and that's what happened." i was young when i was told that story, and he was never inappropriate with me or my siblings, so i accepted it as fact and moved on. he was happy when i was pregnant and gave birth, said he was happy to finally be a grandfather. whenever he was around, i let him hold my daughter. he did not touch her inappropriately nor did he say anything off the wall. he even bought her birthday gifts that she loved. he was adored by everyone. then, some months before i gave birth to my son, i texted him "hey it's been a while. how've u been?" and he didn't respond. i waited 3 days before texting my aunt who lives near him if anything happened, if he was ok. she called me to say "uhhh so FBI raided his home. he's in jail for the rest of his life." i was shocked and asked for what. she paused before she said "he had child pornography on his computer". my heart fell and my entire world just shattered. he was dad to me, he was grandpa to my daughter. it didn't make any sense to me, and it still doesn't. im somewhat at peace knowing he's locked up and isn't getting out. i haven't attempted to make any calls to where he's being held, i never want to talk to him again. no one blames me either
This is the first time that I can realistically see both sides of the story being plausible.
I’m a nurse on a neurology unit. So we see a lot of elderly patients in their 60’s-80’s with multiple comorbidities (heart failure, mental health issues, physical limitations, strokes, etc). As well as dozens of patients a week coming in for withdrawal and psychosis from it. When people have been abusing drugs, especially prescription drugs, and alcohol for so long that it’s ruined their health/quality of life- they don’t see a reason to stop now. “I’m gonna die anyway. My life is crap. What’s the point”.
Sooooo many times these patients discharge after weeks of recovery and going through the hardest part of the withdrawal process- only to hop in the car, smoke a cigarette’s and wash down their entire bottle of medicine with alcohol from the CVS next door…. They are back in our care the next week and on another month long admission for the same thing.
Other than her saying “I dosed the heck out of him”- the story driving home is very realistic in regards to the person abusing their medications and having a lethal overdose their body cannot handle anymore. Family members buying alcohol, foods against dietary restrictions, etc. is very common as well. Those in the midst of addictions are selfish/emotional/manipulative and it’s easier to get them what they want than it is to handle them. ESPECIALLY when the family member you loved and trusted just hurt you more than anything else could ever do.
For what happened after they got home, that’s where it goes off the rails for me. But I’m not going to lie- I have seen family members do crazy things to get a fallen person off the ground so they don’t have to call EMS. Tying towels to each other to use as a gait belt is something I’ve seen more than I would like to 😅.
Regardless of anything. If she couldn’t of gotten him out of the car and into the house. Call EMS. Best case: they help you get him inside. Worst case: he gets re-admitted to the facility and get more rehabilitation care or placed into a SNF. Even if your family member is being manipulative and angry screaming at you to not call EMS because they want to get home and not go back to the facility- do it anyway. Call EMS. Falls are the biggest cause of accidental injuries and death in elderly patient. I see at least one patient a week that is specifically an elderly person who tripped getting in or out of the car. Even if it’s just a few inches. They don’t bounce back like young people do.
(And yes. The weekend at Bernie’s is a very common southern phrase for incoherent drunk people who need 2 people to carry them home)
Thank you for your comment! It was very insightful, and I wasn't sure about the weekend at bernies thing until u said so!
i feel for her so deeply she must've been overcome with emotions upon finding out i genuinely think she deserves to be out i don't think she was a danger to anyone else but him
Not really the point of prison though, she knew this was a possibility when she killed him 🤷♂️
@@jaydavis3034 he should've known he would get murdered, what did he expect😂
@@jaydavis3034 and pedophiles should expect death if they’re caught
Just stfu, You probably have a myriad of cp on countless drives with how much passive aggressiveness you seem to show her. (Talking about the countless replies he left to almost every comment that expressed even a bit of sympathy towards her)@@jaydavis3034
just watching this made me tear up so bad, because i felt, so so bad. i know she murdered someone, but her normal self would never be the type to do that, as stated. she was bright, outgoing, social, caring... it was only when she went insane, she was driven to literal insanity because of that incident, she couldn't function, she couldn't think straight... she was irrational and had no one to help her.
Less time. If it wasn't such a blatantly premeditated murder, id have probably even gone with just an extensive parole. But 25 to life for this man to no longer be around??? I can only refer to my own experiences, but for what he did to her, he deserved every bit of that. Her life as she knew it was over the moment she accidentally tapped the computer. It really doesn't make sense in a way though... Why not just drop him off at home with the meds and the bottle??? It kinda seems like he would've just done the work for her. Its incredibly common for people to od right out of treatment too, so I doubt anyone would have bat an eye.
I feel bad for Jade. It sent her over the deep end. She trusted him as a father. I could only imagine what that would do to me.
I think she didn't go to the police because her trust was absolutely shattered. If the closest person to you is your stepdad and he betrays you so completely, then why would a bunch of strangers with power be trustworthy? Even worse, it also seems like Adam and Alan betrayed her too. I feel so bad for her, she must feel so alone. She deserved better. I doubt she killed him on purpose, or if she even tried to at all.
"I killed him, I drugged him, I suffocated him." Yeah, definitely didn't intend to kill him.
I don't think there's a Statute of Limitations on CP, since she was a minor, it's considered CP. She could've got him done for CP.
10 years. In US there is. And we also don’t know the nature of those younger photos. It could’ve been suggestive but not pornography.
@@thelostpacket6688 even if it's suggestive material of a minor, it's illegal.
@@citizenvulpes4562 I meant to him. He sexualized the photos of when she was younger, even though they weren’t. He had pics of her when she was younger and according to the story he hadn’t implanted any hidden cams so I don’t think they were like that. He probably saw them as it though.
Hi there, I'm new to your channel and I absolutely love it. I feel like you're the first UA-camr, podcaster, or person that likes true crime that doesn't treat it as a sick hobby, but that actually tells the story while feeling it and always making sure to pay more attention to the victims that the sensationalization of the story. Anyways you make me feel the truth of it and the empathy that we humans lack.
She used to tell these stories while doing mukbangs….
free my girl she ain’t do nothing 😂
She should be punished for sure. But life in prison is too harsh. Especially considering that autopsy said it was his liver condition mixed with his medicine was the cause. Whatever happens, I hope she will be healed from this experience.
Life is really harsh, I mean there are serial killers out there that pleaded guilty for killing up to 40 people, yet they weren't given life by this broken ass system
@@ArianaLee7890 If it was up to me, the baseline would be that anyone who committed first degree murder would get the death penalty. Maybe that could be reduced to life in prison if there was mitigating circumstances. This woman can get parole after 25 years, which is probably going too easy on her. Maybe I wouldn't give her the death penalty, but she should have had to wait longer before parole.
Nope, she doesn't deserve any punishment whatsoever. Bravo to her for removing a pedophile from this sick f_ck world
If her intent was murder then it's murder. If you give someone arsenic by accident it's not murder but if you give them sugar hoping its arsenic and you want them dead, that's murder or attempted murder. Lucky did not get the death sentence.
i really appreciate all the work that you do and your behind the scene team!!
Nah, something like this happened to my family and you have no idea the pain and rage this type of betrayal has on the whole family, especially the victims. This man deserved worse, just like my mother's father!
I think she should be free ngl and these kinds of cases absolutely drive me insane. Idc if she planned it. He shouldn’t have been abusing a minor in his care.