In your parts list you have a repeated part. Is there something missing from the list or is the list 8 different items not 9? Also, it said free plans but you have no plans? Are crossover plans/build going to be available as well?
This is an old gem. I had no idea how some of the stuff I've been dabbling in for my videos is stuff you've touched on or done previous... I'll be playing catch up
It seems to me a better idea would be to essentially cut that in half and have two speakers to mount on each side of the TV, maybe rigging up some kind of mounting system that uses the VESA mounts.
Dear, you would need to change the TV, otherwise you will not get into the situation at all. Hanging like a patch on the wall. For the links to the speakers, thank you so much.
Nice build, thanks for sharing. It seems that your build and production (both speaker and video) skills have increased significantly over these past few years. I'm curious if you would do anything differently now compared to then. Same size and dimensions? Are you happy with the performance of it now that it's been in use? Would you choose different speakers?
love the build! i'm looking to build a LCR soundbar. Do you think adding one more set of MTM in the center with the same xover and drivers would work well for an LCR?
In your plans for this build you have the Dayton 2x15 Amp listed and in parenthesis wrote "I may upgrade this, but I had this on hand". Question, did you upgrade it and if so to what?
We need to get ya a little better soldering iron. Plus a spool of good solder it looks like. The difference between good and bad solder joints can make or break a project. Just say no to lead free solder.
Thank you so much for the content you post! I am planning a passive center channel based on you soundbar (but shorter) because of its form factor. I used your crossover design to walk through WinPCD and XSim with the help of your crossover series with episode 7 having particular relevance. When using this as a center speaker in a 5.2 set-up, do you think it would be advisable to ad a high-pass to the woofers to protect them or am I over thinking this?
Hi, I was looking for something like this but when I click the link 404 pops out. Do you still share the building plans. I want to learn more about it. Please let me know. Thanks
Just came across this video and found the Parts-Express thread. In the thread, you say that you can substitute Electrolytic Capacitors if on a budget, but you wouldn't recommend it; however, your parts list links to the Electrolytic Capacitors. Where would I find the ones you actually recommend? Also, you mention internal vs non-internal amplification. If you are using a A/V Receiver, would you need supplemental amplification? Would it hurt to have the built-in amplification if running off a receiver?
Marvelous design and video. A little light on XO, however, which brings up my newbie puzzle: your XO schematic shows three speakers: two M, one T--but the soundbar has (obviously) six. Did you build two XOs? And how to wire them--series or parallel connection to the CC output from the power amp? Thanks in advance.
I'm not sure what you mean, that the soundbar has six? Each side is wired to one side of an amplifier. The description has a link to my web-site which gives all the wiring information, box and everything. Feel free to check it out. It should answer all your questions.
Two crossovers. It's a stereo speaker so one crossover with the input connected to one channel of the amplifier and the woofer output to two parallel woofers and the tweeter output to the tweeter. Repeat for the other channel of the ampllifier.
Just found your channel when looking for a sound bar build. This is a great video and well explained 👍👍👍 I want to build a passive sound bar that house the central and two front speakers for my 5.1 system, so I will build as you have done and just use the centre section for the centre speaker unless there is any reason why I shouldn't. Thanks for sharing and sub'd 🙂
That is nice!!! Could you go more in depth or another how to on how to figure out your crossovers I have watched your video series on how to build one but somewhere along the lines I get lost on it?
Just to keeping it simple like a all around crossover for the 4 inch Dayton woofer and a Dayton tweeter. Like a crossover you like to use for these speakers.
I put out the crossover series for those who want to learn how to build their own crossovers, which is most preferred. I know it can be daunting, but is very reqarding. If you want me to design a crossover for you, I offer that service via my Etsy store which is located here: www.etsy.com/shop/123Toid?ref=shop_name_search_sugg However, I personally would rather people learn themselves, you get much greater satisfaction from that. I hate to charge, but too many people ask me to design them one and I do not have the time to do that.
It all depends on the amplifier you choose. Some have IR ad power on them, so you can use a remote control. However, my television has a variable audio out, meaning I can use the television remote and volume to control whatever device is hooked up to it.
Newbie here, I've been researching my first project to make for next Christmas. I want to make this design Bluetooth capable. But as mentioned you can just add that later. My question is detailed how? Sorry if this a beginners question, I'm trying to soak up as much as I can.
No problem, we all have to start somewhere. You basically need to get an amplifier that has bluetooth built-in or buy an eternal bluetooth module to hook up to the amplifier. If you go with a board amp something like this would work: www.parts-express.com/dayton-audio-kab-230a-2x30w-class-d-audio-amplifier-board-with-bluetooth-40--325-102
123Toid Awesome, thanks. My carpentry skills are average, electrical is where I need to learn. Appreciate your quick response. I really enjoy your videos and designs.
You have two mid woofers on each channel. Do each of these mid woofers needs its own cross over or do you just have one cross over feeding the two woofers ?
Thanks! I appreciate it. I can't wait for you to see my other videos :) Actually, the way I have it wired right now, is both sides have two 8 ohm woofers wired in parallel, thus dropping their impedance down to 4 ohms (per side). So if you wired both sides together in series, you would get a nominal 8 ohm load. However, you would have to change the crossover.
Whats with the fish-eye lens? it's distortion is too distracting and confusing especially when you are talking about things being square and flush. They don't appear that way because of the fish-eye.
I have been dying to make this for over a year now and am finally going to do it. However, I am having trouble working on the crossover design for some dayton/peerless MTM setups. I want to use your design but add a center channel as well. I have think I have narrowed down my T and M choices. Do you offer any crossover design service?
Since you have a big empty compartment, why not doing a 2.1 system? I was expecting to see some more info on the crossover and volume calculation. Can you test difraction? But anyways, cool build!
Nuno Correia you could do that. I actually am using it as a 2.1 system. All the video out showing how I did that later. But I'm using a separate subwoofer
Great job! What subwoofer are you using? I have a sub that I had with my old system. It plugged into the receiver, do you think I could use it with this sound bar?
I'm using this subwoofer for now: ua-cam.com/video/MoNAu0QQMGU/v-deo.html Although I am building a new one for it on this channel. Your sub will work as long as it has speaker wire/amp in and out on it.
123Toid hey I have a question for you I’m visually impaired how much would you charge to build me an enclosure sound bar that’s a nine speaker about 40 some inches long
Could the same drivers and crossover be used in an mtm cabinet with the same volume as the soundbar? Why were the drivers on each side spaced as far apart as they are on this design? Is there a technical reason?
Good Goat great question. The answer is yes. However, I just redesigned the crossover to be cheaper and sounds better. That video will be out shortly. The driver spacing was by design, and you are welcome to space them closer if you want.
Thanks for the quick response. This soundbar, the reveals, and the 8" sub with pr's are all economical and very interesting. Thanks for these videos, I have watched all of them over the last two weeks. Great job. I look forward to seeing the improved crossover.
I used 1/4" MDF and Walnut. If you want detailed plans, they can be found here: techtalk.parts-express.com/forum/speaker-project-gallery/1344453-dayton-diy-soundbar?_=1506397047520&_=1506398464771
This is great if you know about the electronics parts and are a complete noob at basic woodwork. It would have been nice to read the parts list on one page ie PART 1 - TWEETER - Dayton Audio ND25FA-4 1" Soft Dome Neodymium Tweeter - required 2 off PART 2 - Woofer - .......etc A picture or 7 showing the electrical assemble and an explanation of what the parts did. to me the circuit diagram was very bafling. 10% on the woodwork and 90% on the selection of parts and wiring up would have been better.
sebasese1 it's a circle cutter for a drill press. This one is a carbide tipped Circle cutter. You can pick them up at your local hardware store or Amazon
Wow, I didn't notice that happened. It looks like something happened with my upload program. I actually shoot everything with 1080p. Thanks for the heads up!
In your parts list you have a repeated part. Is there something missing from the list or is the list 8 different items not 9?
Also, it said free plans but you have no plans? Are crossover plans/build going to be available as well?
Here they are: www.123toid.com/2017/12/diy-dayton-sound-bar.html
@@Toid it says "OOPS! THAT PAGE CAN'T BE FOUND."
@@deepayansahoo toidsdiyaudio.com/2017/12/29/diy-dayton-sound-bar/ That is correct link.
@@deepayansahoo Now it has all kinds of security/ infected with virus warnings
@@theBullringLive thanks.
This is an old gem. I had no idea how some of the stuff I've been dabbling in for my videos is stuff you've touched on or done previous... I'll be playing catch up
wow, the outro freacked me out, so loud. Top notch on the build, really nice looking.
Nice job! It's got me thinking about something for my house......
Derek Jarman Sweet! I'm glad you liked it!
Nice build, a sound test at the end would be good.
Thank you. I did do a sound test after I built a subwoofer for it. Found here: ua-cam.com/video/c5xE4zlrTGI/v-deo.html
its very easy to do.... if you have the right tools :) but great work
Really nice build.
Thank You!
Really would of liked a more indepth look at the whole wiring diagram but still a good video
Just love videos with ear blasting intro and exists. Then the part you want to hear is sub normal volume levels. Geez!
It seems to me a better idea would be to essentially cut that in half and have two speakers to mount on each side of the TV, maybe rigging up some kind of mounting system that uses the VESA mounts.
Why not just make normal speakers then?
Dear, you would need to change the TV, otherwise you will not get into the situation at all. Hanging like a patch on the wall. For the links to the speakers, thank you so much.
Gorgeous build.
Nice build, thanks for sharing. It seems that your build and production (both speaker and video) skills have increased significantly over these past few years. I'm curious if you would do anything differently now compared to then. Same size and dimensions? Are you happy with the performance of it now that it's been in use? Would you choose different speakers?
love the build! i'm looking to build a LCR soundbar. Do you think adding one more set of MTM in the center with the same xover and drivers would work well for an LCR?
Nice work and all. But I stayed for the HDMI Soundbar Amplifier bit. That wasn't there.
I didn't find any plan for this work
In your plans for this build you have the Dayton 2x15 Amp listed and in parenthesis wrote "I may upgrade this, but I had this on hand". Question, did you upgrade it and if so to what?
We need to get ya a little better soldering iron. Plus a spool of good solder it looks like. The difference between good and bad solder joints can make or break a project. Just say no to lead free solder.
Awesome!
Thank you so much for the content you post! I am planning a passive center channel based on you soundbar (but shorter) because of its form factor. I used your crossover design to walk through WinPCD and XSim with the help of your crossover series with episode 7 having particular relevance. When using this as a center speaker in a 5.2 set-up, do you think it would be advisable to ad a high-pass to the woofers to protect them or am I over thinking this?
Hi, I was looking for something like this but when I click the link 404 pops out. Do you still share the building plans. I want to learn more about it. Please let me know. Thanks
❤❤❤superb
Trying to download plans, but it says there's nothing there to download.....
The same for me
How does it sound? Comparable to a $100, $200. $300, speaker?
Nice dude
I don’t know why am so confused but how would you turn the volume up and down on this if you were to connected to a TV
Just came across this video and found the Parts-Express thread. In the thread, you say that you can substitute Electrolytic Capacitors if on a budget, but you wouldn't recommend it; however, your parts list links to the Electrolytic Capacitors. Where would I find the ones you actually recommend? Also, you mention internal vs non-internal amplification. If you are using a A/V Receiver, would you need supplemental amplification? Would it hurt to have the built-in amplification if running off a receiver?
Where can I get an amplifier for something like this
Marvelous design and video. A little light on XO, however, which brings up my newbie puzzle: your XO schematic shows three speakers: two M, one T--but the soundbar has (obviously) six. Did you build two XOs? And how to wire them--series or parallel connection to the CC output from the power amp? Thanks in advance.
I'm not sure what you mean, that the soundbar has six? Each side is wired to one side of an amplifier. The description has a link to my web-site which gives all the wiring information, box and everything. Feel free to check it out. It should answer all your questions.
Two crossovers. It's a stereo speaker so one crossover with the input connected to one channel of the amplifier and the woofer output to two parallel woofers and the tweeter output to the tweeter.
Repeat for the other channel of the ampllifier.
I’m looking for a 5.1 surround sound build plan do you have any? Or how you planning on making one, any help will be greatly appreciate
Is it hard to use planar tweeter in speakers?
Just found your channel when looking for a sound bar build. This is a great video and well explained 👍👍👍
I want to build a passive sound bar that house the central and two front speakers for my 5.1 system, so I will build as you have done and just use the centre section for the centre speaker unless there is any reason why I shouldn't.
Thanks for sharing and sub'd 🙂
That is nice!!! Could you go more in depth or another how to on how to figure out your crossovers I have watched your video series on how to build one but somewhere along the lines I get lost on it?
What exactly would you like to know?
Just to keeping it simple like a all around crossover for the 4 inch Dayton woofer and a Dayton tweeter. Like a crossover you like to use for these speakers.
I put out the crossover series for those who want to learn how to build their own crossovers, which is most preferred. I know it can be daunting, but is very reqarding. If you want me to design a crossover for you, I offer that service via my Etsy store which is located here: www.etsy.com/shop/123Toid?ref=shop_name_search_sugg However, I personally would rather people learn themselves, you get much greater satisfaction from that. I hate to charge, but too many people ask me to design them one and I do not have the time to do that.
Plans are missing, please re-upload them
how are you controlling the volume and power "ON N OFF"?
It all depends on the amplifier you choose. Some have IR ad power on them, so you can use a remote control. However, my television has a variable audio out, meaning I can use the television remote and volume to control whatever device is hooked up to it.
You should have shown us the result.
If I wanted to connect my subwoofer to soundbar via bluetooth how would I do this?
I know this is an old video, but the plan link isn't working? I'm really interested in building this soundbar! It looks amazing!
Just search the link for DIY soundbar at toidsdiyaudio.com they are there
@@Toid Thank You!
Newbie here, I've been researching my first project to make for next Christmas. I want to make this design Bluetooth capable. But as mentioned you can just add that later. My question is detailed how? Sorry if this a beginners question, I'm trying to soak up as much as I can.
No problem, we all have to start somewhere. You basically need to get an amplifier that has bluetooth built-in or buy an eternal bluetooth module to hook up to the amplifier. If you go with a board amp something like this would work: www.parts-express.com/dayton-audio-kab-230a-2x30w-class-d-audio-amplifier-board-with-bluetooth-40--325-102
123Toid Awesome, thanks. My carpentry skills are average, electrical is where I need to learn. Appreciate your quick response. I really enjoy your videos and designs.
Thanks. I need WiFi and bluetooth electric board to be put inside. Any idea ?
You should check out Arylic. They have a bunch of these boards. Http://bit.ly/arylic21
You have two mid woofers on each channel. Do each of these mid woofers needs its own cross over or do you just have one cross over feeding the two woofers ?
This crossover crosses over both mids to the Tweeter. Both mids, use the same low pass.
Toid's DIY Audio thanks
If you merge the two sides to make a single center channel speaker, does the impedance become 4 ohm? New to this, great video btw
Thanks! I appreciate it. I can't wait for you to see my other videos :) Actually, the way I have it wired right now, is both sides have two 8 ohm woofers wired in parallel, thus dropping their impedance down to 4 ohms (per side). So if you wired both sides together in series, you would get a nominal 8 ohm load. However, you would have to change the crossover.
And sound tester?
how much would you charge to build one and sell it to me
No more plans for this, huh?
3:16 seems like you are using 180degree camera may be gopro
Good catch. I did use some at that time. I've stopped using them now
good day paps..can you please show me the actual picture of your dividing network..tnx.
The build plans are found right here: www.123toid.com/2017/12/diy-dayton-sound-bar.html
Total cost?
Whats with the fish-eye lens? it's distortion is too distracting and confusing especially when you are talking about things being square and flush. They don't appear that way because of the fish-eye.
It's one of those cheap Go Pro style cameras. That is how it records. Not my favorite either
I have been dying to make this for over a year now and am finally going to do it. However, I am having trouble working on the crossover design for some dayton/peerless MTM setups. I want to use your design but add a center channel as well. I have think I have narrowed down my T and M choices. Do you offer any crossover design service?
I do offer custom crossover design if you need it.
@@Toid how can I contact you directly?
sweet, thx. i sent an email. :)
Since you have a big empty compartment, why not doing a 2.1 system? I was expecting to see some more info on the crossover and volume calculation. Can you test difraction? But anyways, cool build!
Nuno Correia you could do that. I actually am using it as a 2.1 system. All the video out showing how I did that later. But I'm using a separate subwoofer
Nuno Correia I'll have some schematics out shortly. When I have them out, I'll let you know
Great job! What subwoofer are you using? I have a sub that I had with my old system. It plugged into the receiver, do you think I could use it with this sound bar?
I'm using this subwoofer for now: ua-cam.com/video/MoNAu0QQMGU/v-deo.html Although I am building a new one for it on this channel. Your sub will work as long as it has speaker wire/amp in and out on it.
Thanks. I’ll check it out
123Toid hey I have a question for you I’m visually impaired how much would you charge to build me an enclosure sound bar that’s a nine speaker about 40 some inches long
I'm guessing the plans for this build have been taken down? Maybe someone could share, PLEASE?
Just go to the website that's linked and search for them. They are still there
@@Toid I found the plans, THANK YOU very much. I'll let you know how it turns out.
Could the same drivers and crossover be used in an mtm cabinet with the same volume as the soundbar? Why were the drivers on each side spaced as far apart as they are on this design? Is there a technical reason?
Good Goat great question. The answer is yes. However, I just redesigned the crossover to be cheaper and sounds better. That video will be out shortly. The driver spacing was by design, and you are welcome to space them closer if you want.
Thanks for the quick response. This soundbar, the reveals, and the 8" sub with pr's are all economical and very interesting. Thanks for these videos, I have watched all of them over the last two weeks. Great job. I look forward to seeing the improved crossover.
Good Goat thanks, I appreciate that!
is it correct , the width is 36 1/2" ?
btw, what material You used?sorry if I missed.
I used 1/4" MDF and Walnut. If you want detailed plans, they can be found here: techtalk.parts-express.com/forum/speaker-project-gallery/1344453-dayton-diy-soundbar?_=1506397047520&_=1506398464771
thanks.
This is great if you know about the electronics parts and are a complete noob at basic woodwork. It would have been nice to read the parts list on one page
ie PART 1 - TWEETER - Dayton Audio ND25FA-4 1" Soft Dome Neodymium Tweeter - required 2 off
PART 2 - Woofer - .......etc
A picture or 7 showing the electrical assemble and an explanation of what the parts did. to me the circuit diagram was very bafling. 10% on the woodwork and 90% on the selection of parts and wiring up would have been better.
Pdoubleyou thank you for the input. I'll have to keep that in mind in my future videos
hey, how is that drill caled you are using from 0:29 to 0:37 ?
sebasese1 it's a circle cutter for a drill press. This one is a carbide tipped Circle cutter. You can pick them up at your local hardware store or Amazon
123Toid Thank you. Realy appreciate your good work
sebasese1 you're welcome and thanks for the compliment
Please tell me the type of speakers used in this soundbar...and their specifications... Circuit too
Asutosh Sahoo www.123toid.com/2017/12/diy-dayton-sound-bar.html?m=1
soLder.
Hi
Hi! :)
Why don't Americans pronounce the "L" in solder?
Really
The only reason i dont watch your videos, is because of the quality... 480p in 2017 just isnt watchable... it has to be atleast good 720p
Wow, I didn't notice that happened. It looks like something happened with my upload program. I actually shoot everything with 1080p. Thanks for the heads up!
most of your newer videos are in 480p....
Yeah I just saw that. It looks like a setting got changed and I was completely unaware of it. I really appreciate you bringing it to my attention
no problem, atleast from now on your videos will be 1080p?
Absolutely