Support my content on Patreon: / roberttolppi As video essays grow in popularity and length, will the supply of these videos outpace the demand for them?
I think calling Quinton's videos video essays is incorrect. It's not an essay it's more of a rant. I don't open them to get a concise and well scripted coherent thesis, I click on it to be reminded of a childhood show that I had forgotten about while getting passionate side notes from the creator. It's kind of like listening to a friend talk about something they're passionate about.
I watched his Nickelodeon series all the time when I was pregnant. It’s like I was in such a high state of stress that I didn’t want anything that I had to think critically about. His videos were the perfect amount of listening and little stress
I 100% agree. Quinton's videos feel like a 2am call with your friend talking about random things like wich Victorious character doesn't believe in climate change. That's the entire reason I watch them
i dont crave ridiculously long videos to doze off to, i crave ridiculously long videos full of shit i dont care about to watch intently for the whole runtime and then promptly forget about
i think for me it provides the immersive feeling of reading a book or watching a show, but without the need to pay attention to every second of it. watching a bunch of shorter videos is good too but it can be overwhelming to keep changing topics. its nice for when im drawing, because i dont need to pay attention to the visuals like i would in a show
@@aspenrose_ wow this is exactly how i think of and use video essays too!! i hate having to turn my head away from my screen while i draw, especially when i'm in an "art frenzy" mode. so i often turn on loooong, listenable video essays to avoid having to find a new video to put on every couple dozen minutes. time spent finding new videos over hours of drawing really adds up
Nowadays watching these video essays on UA-cam are like committing yourself to binging a series of a show on a streaming service. It’s one of the many ways traditional media and UA-cam have crossed paths. Now they’re similar in how we consume the content both traditional and non traditional media provide.
People wonder why I’d rather see a video essay on most movies than the movies. I can’t see everything but I wanna get a hyper-extracted segment of its philosophy and meaning
Having never seen an episode of iCarly, Sam and Car, or Victorious... I was enthralled. I also can now comfortably say I understand every episode of said shows...😂
Yes, I loved watching these videos because I've never really watched these show but just seen clips before. And watching Quintons videos felt like watching these series faster and with a friend who does funny quips and sometimes goes on tangents.
I like to think of Quinton's videos as the equivalent of a Let's Play of the show. They're not "video essays" as such, because he doesn't go into them with a full understanding of everything that happens -- instead, he summarizes boring "gameplay" in the same way a Let's Player would summarize hours of grinding in a JRPG. We the viewer are presented with his thoughts in sort-of realtime. It's much closer in format to Chuggaconroy (scripted Let's Play/pseudo reaction content) than to someone like Jose (video essay analyzing a TV show).
I've never thought about Quinton's videos in this "ambient sounds to fall asleep to" way, but it actually makes sense. I love listening to them while working, they're less distracting than music and won't make me sleepy like rain sounds do.
i love long tv show recap/analysis videos! i treat them more like audiobooks (which are often of a similarly long length) to listen to while commuting or doing chores, than a sub 1-hour video i'd actually sit down and watch. they aren't complete background noise, but they help my silly little adhd brain focus on whatever real-life task i have at hand. the detail given to describing the actual events of the show (as opposed to just doing an analysis of theme or character) means that i can basically 'watch' an entire show that i know i'd never really want to watch in less than a day.
that being said i would be so turned off by ai generated content - the tone of voice is always so dull and lacking in real person humour (referencing memes, past channel inside jokes, current events etc)
I appreciate this comment, because I have listened to multiple Quinton Reviews videos of background fodder while I do chores, and I was usually paying enough attention to think “oh this sounds weird/fascinating af, I gotta go grab my phone and see what’s on the screen” every once in a while. I would also listen to his videos while going to sleep, but is rewind when I woke up to catch what I missed. I also know Quinton works really hard on his videos and his mental health has suffered for it, so I hope if he finds this video that he knows that many of his core fans find his videos to be much more than rain sounds. I think of him as a bit of an archivist.
Exactly the same here (Autistic, seeking ADHD dia) especially when I'm doing something like embroidery or reading, as much as I enjoy it my brain gets frustrated with how understimulating it can be and so these long videos work great, it also means I get to learn about things I'm not familiar with and opens up conversation topics (because small talk is horrid.)
yeah i love these, i currently watch videos that summarize every breaking bad episode, because i kinda want to relive the series without watching it again and they help me concentrate like you said
I think people like content they can consume as they do other things. Longer videos mean less time finding the next one. You can just put on your headphones, and your hands are free to continue doing whatever else needs to be done. This is the same reason creators make yearly or monthly compilations of their content all in one long video, or why some youtubers upload their videos on other services as podcasts. It's why there are so many (bad, unnecessary) podcasts in the first place. It's why so many people listen to twitch streamers in the background. People have been trained to multitask by having their time and attention perpetually directed to ever-increasing demands, such as work, family, commute, managing health, politics, daily errands and chores, etc. In order to fit in any form of leisure time or psychologically recuperate from stress, it has to fit into the already crammed lives we all lead. Long form, primarily audio-based content is perfect for that.
Wow. I feel called out. I was recently commenting on LinkedIn that I really don't get to read for leisure the way I used to. Cause I'm an academic and I get paid to read (non leisure stuff lol). But my consumption of audio books and podcasts like The Magnus Archives has increased exponentially. And it is because I can work/write/mark papers while they play all day. I'm engaged with them but that's the only way I can consume a lot of fiction now, by adding it on top of my work. Wow. I'm depressed now.
Also while I disagree with "watching video essays to sleep" if replaced with "watching it in the background" the point doesn't really change. It feels like a huge misstep to attribute it to wanting to sleep to, because people are just going to think you're dissing the video when at the end its put next to things people actually do (like listening to it in the background passively). edit: typo lol
I agree! I focused on the sleeping part too much in the beginning and expanded upon/clarified that point too late in the video. People absolutely do use that video as a sleep aid, though. It’s in a few “video essays to fall asleep to” playlists on UA-cam, however “passive background listening” is a much more accurate and broader term that better captures the ways Quinton’s audience enjoys his content.
I kinda thought so too, but I think he clarifies himself pretty well after that and gets his point across. I mean, I heard a lot of people saying they fall asleep to Jenny Nicholson videos because she has a soothing voice, so it's nothing negative.
@@RobertTolppi you're really assuming a lot from a few playlists and random anecdotes. Most viewers watch in chunks and pay attention to what he says; it's not background noise. If we do things at the same time as watching it's probably because a lot of people who love this content are neurodivergent...
@@thefelicits "a lot of people who love this content are neurodivergent" Yeah, that's what kind of audience I figured this kind of thing is for. I watched HBomberguy's plagiarism video with my full concentration in about three sittings, but it's a very important video that needs to be that long. That's the longest video I've watched here, and I can't imagine I'll have to do it again.
Oh my ADHD autistic LOVES the 8 hour summaries and dissections Quinton does. He comes off as genuine, in a way, due to it. When I watch those videos, I can feel how much work he's overall put into the vids. I enjoy the summaries cause for some of us, we might have not watched the show in ages, never finished it, or never seen it at all. It helps me feel caught up so that I understand what he's talking about in the other half. In addition, I love just being able to put on an interesting video whilst I play a game or do chores or whatever. I don't have to get distracted every so often by trying to find what vid to watch next. I like it a lot. Something about the way he talks, presents things, goes through the scenes/episodes/games/etc just tickles my ND brain somehow. It's like... Oh! I know what it's like! It's like an autistic/adhd friend coming up and just infodumping the hell out of their special interests/hyperfixations to you. And for me, I mean that in a good way. When people excitedly infodump to me, I find their excitement spreading to me, contagious. So something about the way he does things feels like that, if that makes sense. (Not saying he has autism or adhd, just that he comes off to me as someone really dedicated to his projects and passionate about them, and so his passion kinda spreads to me as I watch/listen.) All in all whilst yeah he can meander, stuff like the summaries can be fun imo
Totally feel the same, some long video essays aren’t that great when you can tell the creator doesn’t really care about the topic or just has really surface level takes on it, but when they’re really passionate about the subject I’m always happy to listen to the whole thing. I don’t think AI could ever replace it for me, I may listen to them in the background while doing other stuff but I’m not doing it totally braindead, I want to hear people passionately overanalyze/infodump about things they care about and have a lot to say about, if the video doesn’t actually have anything to say I’m not gonna listen.
idk I love video essays, but now I'm appreciative of people who can make their points more consicely. the essays that get longer than an lotr movie's length with lots of vaguely relating topics in them tend to lose me
Whenever a video essay meanders a few too many times and/or gets repetitive it loses me. It's sad because YT is starting to value longer videos but a lot of 1 hour video essays could easily be made with the same jokes and human element AND the information in 20-30 minutes. Writing engaging video essays are def more of a skill than people realize, especially when most (and lol guilty as charged) people just put it on the background while they do stuff. Like, I'm not talking about the 8 hour recap types, I mean even the 1-2 hour ones are just way too padded out sometimes and need a peer to edit and calm the script down a little because once you start noticing the dead air and repetitiveness of some (I wanna mention a specific creator so bad but it'll probably get me dogpiled LOL) video essays, it's REALLY hard not to notice it anymore.
Nobody is expected to sit and watch these things in one sitting, and they make great 'fall asleep to' content especially for ADHD (more so than boring soothing music videos that my brain quickly filters out and wanders off)
I love Izzzyzzz videos too but those I watch 1 time full attention first (bc she's entertaining) and then leave it on my sleep playlist for rewatch. She has such a soothing voice and cadence and her topics are so fun 🫶🏼
There was something fucking mesmerizing about The End of Victorious. I ate it up and immediately watched his videos on Icarly (of equally ridiculous length) and waited very intently for the Sam and Cat show. I mostly made fun of those shows when I was a kid for being girly. If you told me that I would really enjoy a random nerd on the internet making 24+ hours of content on these shows, I would think you are crazy. But yet here we are. I want more. I WANT MORE VICTORIOUS ESSAY!!
my neurodivergent ass who watched all of the iCarly and Victorious videos by Quinton in their entirety and paid attention to the entirety of all of them: 👁👄👁
same, i just love watching someone being passionate about some topic. i might have fallen asleep to some videos (often shorter videos tho) because i was tired from work and planned on going to bed soon anyways. it feels weird that the assumption was made in this video that it is just a video to fall asleep to.
i love dozing off to long ass video essays essentially rambling on about mediocre topics because it feels like falling asleep at a sleepover while your friends are chatting about their fave books or movies. Very cozy feeling when listening to someone just talk about a special interest without any rush or interruption. I also live alone, so hearing someone talking about stuff in a friendly manner feels very safe
Video essays hit the sweet spot between podcast and tv-series. Podcasts are often unscripted and consists of two or more people rambling about one or many topics. Tv-series usually demand some sort of attention through watching, on top of the fact some really drag on. With a lengthy video essay, especially the "TV show recap" Mike's Mike format, you get to listen to the highlights of an entire tv show instead of actively watching it. I use it to re-live and gossip about shows I've already seen. I really enjoy them and I don't mind that the market is becoming saturated
I watched the end of victorious. took me 3 days. I think its his best type of content, keeps him from going on an unmedicated parasocial rampage with other creators he barely knows.
The insane length and the insane amount of work that has to flow into doing an actual essay on a series is part of the fun. It's like when Brian David Gilbert did intensive amounts of research to find out which pokemon is edible or whatever small, fringe, silly questions they were, the disproportionality is part of the appeal.
i love long essay or retrospective videos to study or to draw to, where as a movie or series id have to pay attention to know whats going on, an eight hour victorious doesn't have the same constraints
Idk what to tell you, some of us just like watching 8 hour-long recaps of Nickelodeon shows (and aren't bothered by jokes and fan theories) 🙃 Quinton puts a hell of a lot of effort into these videos and they're an absolute blast to watch.
The AI thing is already happening with this. Those Reddit videos are literally just a computer voice reciting anything interesting found on a Reddit thread for upwards of 20 minutes, sometimes an hour or more
I really like Quintons videos because I could listen to them at work and not have to change to anything else so my boss couldn’t complain about me being on my phone so much like how I would be flipping through songs or 10 minute videos.
Yep! I haven't seen a single one of those teen sitcoms, but I found Quinton's videos on them oddly compelling and educational. I also watch most things on 1.25x-1.75, depending.
The more corporate “video essays” that are just stock footage about some place or event suck, but all the best UA-camrs make one 8 hour video every 6 months about some show or game you’ve never heard of
I love long videos! even if they could be redundant or go into unecessary depth, it's lovely playing it in the background while I do something else. i don thave to constantly switch to another video, and when i leave and come back to that task, resuming the video feels almost like a save point and gets me back on my groove a lot faster.
I love retrospectives thought 😭 the quiton reviews ones aren't just recaps; he talks about other things throughout the videos, even during the synopsis of the episodes
I think Quintons videos about icarly and victorious are for people who havent seen the show. As someone who has seen those shows, his video got boring quick when i realized he was just re-capping every episode. Like, I know what happens. But! On the flipside, I really liked Jenny Nicholson's video on the vampire diaries, cause I havent seen the show and wanted to know the plot. Event though her video is vastly different in legnth
Same with Nightmare Masterclass. He going through a piece of media and then makes his analysis. 90% of the media he dissects I've never seen and have no intention of seeing (I don't play video games, for example) so that description works for me.
I love video essays because I can continually come back to them. They also make good background noise while im cleaning or doing something else. I watched both Quentins victorious and icarly vids! I also love deep dives on shows/music/movies/ business practices too
I personally watched the video in the thumbnail from beginning to end and loved it not all of us are fried from short form content and just love a good binge watch
This is so true I love watching long game lore videos. If you make an hour and a half video about a game I’ve never heard of or 5 hour video about a book I meant to read 10 years ago, I’m there.
What is it about us? Lol. I've never played a video game in my life but I watch all Hbomberguy's video game dissections and some I've watched more than once!
While I don't watch 8hr videos, I watch a lot of 1-2he length videos that talk about social justice issues, from creators like FD signifier, Contrapoints and Philosophytube. They're great to listen along to in a similar fashion to a podcast imo.
I’m OBSESSED with these super long video essays, I’ve watched all of Quintens videos of similar length, and every other channel with hour+ videos I dive into gleefully.
There are certainly long form videos out there that deserve the run time. long form content in an of itself is an artform and of course deserves to exist. Personally I really enjoy longer videos to have on in the background and absorb over a week. Probably different than a lot of the audience here but video game people, those interested in Bethesda games have a plethora of long video essays to choose from, some being up to 9 hours long and a good deal of those are worth the watch, inviting plenty of discussion with alot of focused effort behind them (I'd recommend patriciantv). I think it always depends on the the subject matter, is deep enough to warrant discussion, are there points to be made, is there an overlap between what a particular video has to say and another on the same topic.Particularly Id harp on the point that the creator knows you wont consume all the video in one sitting. Its those that tailor the experience with this in mind whilst also not wanting to split up their video portfolio that truly shine.
What upset me recently was a video essay from Turkey Tom, who I at least kinda enjoyed up to that point. He decided to make a video about Chris-chan. 1. For the love of God can we leave her alone already? Making more videos about her A. only serves to pry further into her personal life and B. it brings her back into the internet's attention and could result in further harassment and abuse to her. She's never gonna be able to get proper help for her mental issues if she's being constantly harassed again. Leave her alone, let her hopefully get treatment, and cross your fingers that she's able to get treated and come to her senses and actually feel guilty for what she's done. 2. From the very start of it, he misgendered her. I don't know what's so hard about using someone's correct pronouns! I don't even care if someone thinks she's a girl or not; no matter what gender she is, if she says "call me she/her" we should fuckin do that. We don't misgender cis criminals, so don't do it to her. * sigh * had to unfollow him for that one. His audience was trying to tell me it didn't matter, but it does! It matters how we treat people, even criminals! Pronouns aren't just a *priveledge* that can be yanked away whenever someone does shitty stuff. It's basic humanity that should be shown to even despicable people. 3. I'm just really creeped out because why was the video necessary? Who needed a new invasive transphobic Chris-chan video in 2023??? No one was asking for this ----- Oh God and i avoid anything even mentioning Nikocado Avocado. Everything I've learned about that man, I've learned against my will.
I actually hate when youtubers make other youtubers the subject of their deep dives or video analysis. At least icarly and victorious are just old Nickelodeon properties. It won’t lead to cyber bullying or an unending cycle of ‘clap back’ videos.
i know mentioning this is probably gonna start a shitstorm but just to preface i do not agree with the people who misgender chris chan, but ive seen both trans people and transphobes alike misgender her or dismiss her identity entirely either under the premise of optics or because shes "crazy and mentally ill and doesnt know what shes talking about". it sucks. unfortunately tom is just another cog in a unending cycle of people making fun of a disabled flawed person on the internet because it makes them feel a little better.
That’s what was the final straw that broke the camels back in me continuing to watch thegamerfrommars. I don’t understand why people aggressively misgender so. Basic human decency should never be a thing only afforded to people living up to decency-standards. Even the most vile human in history deserves basic human rights.
I watch Quinton's videos for his personality and humor and whacky takeaways from very 2000's random lol shows. They were very helpful on a long train ride for a recent vacation.
As someone who grew up with these shows, but never got to see them in full or very often because we didn't have cable, I love these long retrospectives because they let me in a way watch the entire series without having to do so I've also been a consumer of long Form content before 2020, so I was delighted when I found Quinton reviews, I also happen to love Garfield
I’d sit and watch Quintens entire Nickelodeon analysis series while working but ONLY when I was working so I think I finished all the videos in a month or so
3:55 feels like a lot of todays viewers grew up on free content and paying for individual creator content (compared to a platform) is not a practice people are used to. Compare that to the 90s/early 2000s where imo indie zines, blogs, music, movies had a decent market. Sure it was still niche and people weren’t making millions, but like you say, it allowed creators to do what they did for a living. I can’t quite pin down what I’m trying to say, or what the solution is, but it’s like a cultural practice? died out. Not people pay for the platforms like UA-cam Premium. Support creators directly if you enjoy their work!
I absolutely adore Quinton’s long videos, I originally put them on during college bc it was something I could pop in-out of attention wise without much worry about missing a drastic point. But now, I recognize them as being a manifestation of a hyperfixation in video form, which is totally something I would probably do if I had more time for my own interests.
It’s literally just a fun summary and overview of a Nickelodeon show that a lot of people watched and felt nostalgic for. Why are you acting like it should be held to the same standards as an academic paper 💀💀 We know the theories are just theories and take them with a grain of salt. It’s just a fun experience to take part in. Similar to MatPat’s videos I guess, we know “it’s just a theory”, but it’s still fun to speculate. It’s a fictional show, obviously I draw the line when they speculate about the actor’s/actress’s real life’s, but this is not that.
No one is acting like it should be held to an academic standard but his essays could be an hour long (if that) and his points could still stand. Instead it's a bloated mess going into excruciating detail for the sake of it and long winded for the sake of it.
@@drghostduck The point is to talk about every episode of the series and clearly there's an audience for it. Just because YOU think it's a bloated mess doesn't make it so. Plenty of people have watched his long videos and enjoy it. Sometimes you aren't the target demographic for a thing.
@carol If the majority of your video essay is recounting episodes, it's not a very good or thought-provoking essay, it's just a retelling events. If most of your video essay is filler/fluff to pad out the runtime then maybe you should rewrite/edit it. I never denied there wasn't an audience for it, I've watched all of his video essays, but they're more akin to ambient noise than anything of substance.
@Dr Ghost Duck You know what's funny? His channel is called Quinton Reviews. He calls these videos a deep dive and a review. Does he ever claim that these are video essays? That they're supposed to be thought-provoking? Or does he treat them like what they are? A deep dive into a show he watched, where he reviews the episodes and relationships? I have no idea why you think these videos have to be thought-provoking. And just like i said, you might not like it, but others do. No need to watch them. He makes videos on shows he watched, and he talks about them in detail. He isn't trying to change the landscape of philosophical thought. He reviews shows. So he reviewed Victorious, and he talked about it for a long period of time. Fan theories on the damn Secret Fourth Sherlock Season tried to come off as more intellectual than this. He is reviewing a show and having fun.
@carol But they're not even a deep-dive, its a surface level recount of everything that has happened in the show. I don't know why you're getting upset about this whole thing. Also you mention his name as if that adds anything, his videos are barely reviews. As I said I've watched his reviews and enjoy them for what they are (mindless background noise for me to listen too whilst I'm busy). I also never said they should be though provoking or suggest they were marketed that way, merely that they weren't thought provoking. They're just a bloated mess of a recount of a TV series which can still be useful or entertaining depending on who watches it.
I listen to long commentary, video essay, or rant videos while I draw or do other tasks. It feels like a weird assertion to say most people only ever enjoy it if they’re gonna fall asleep to it?
One of my favorite video essays is Pyrocynicles Utopia video where he reacts and talks about the series. The 7 hour video was basically a mini show I spent a week watching
I don't know about sleep-watchers being totally indiscriminate. My go-tos for falling asleep are Jenny Nicholson, Folding Ideas and Shaun, because I love their videos and their voices, they don't really ever shout (unlike Hbomb might, or Quinton), and I've watched all their videos before, so my brain doesn't feel the need to try to keep up. Sometimes I do choose new stuff - new podcast episodes or long videos I want to watch, but if it's too dull I get annoyed, if it's too interesting I might not fall asleep, and if their voice isn't soothing or their personality annoying it will be entirely counter-productive. Quinton's videos might be especially suited to this kind of sleep watching, since it is lengthy and a bit silly and full of cul-de-sacs, but it's not as different from what Jenny does as you imply IMO - their channels are both very personality and vibe driven over content driven, creating this warm, cozy space.
I watched both Patrician's 30 hour analysis on Morrowind and Matthewmatosis's 6 hour analysis on Dark Souls 1 this week. Granted both at 2x speed and both are designed to be broken down into chapters. Did not sleep to either. No difference between a series of videos released all at once and a single long video with chapters.
i dont really mind these types of videos but i am TIRED of everything being called an essay or analysis or commentary when very often something is a recap or more of a documentary with a liiiiiittle bit of opinion added. it is certainly one of my biggest pet peeves nowadays.
I feel like Quinton's mid-point theory segments like the Trina one aren't necessarily meant to include this thorough in-depth analysis that you're wanting. It's meant to be more of a funny joke. Some parts may have validity to them but for the most part - it's just supposed to be fun. The run time is more of him wanting to best himself and see how long he can make a video. As someone who's been watching his videos for a very long time I feel like this take isn't super reasonable trying to equate it with rain sound videos. I'm obviously 100% biased in this lol but still, I feel like you could've done some more research and maybe ask Quinton his reasoning behind the videos and their length, since you want more thorough content and all.
I agree. I’m not a fan of Quinton anymore, but I used to watch his videos like 3-5 years ago and I definitely thought he was joking. It reminds me of some of his older dry jokes.
You can certainly have long video essays that justify their length. Action Button’s Tokimeki Memorial review provides the viewer a detailed breakdown of the gameplay experience since there is a language barrier for most western viewers. While also offering his own personal life experiences and how they make him more deeply connected to the game. Then Folding Idea’s essay on crypto and NFTs was a wholistic takedown of crypto scams that effectively shut down every counter argument before they had the chance. You can certainly pull it off, but you just need enough interesting content to do so
I love Quinten reviews his videos are ideal for getting my 10k steps in every day. I don't always agree with his opinion but I still love the work he puts in.
I liked Quinton's videos even if they long bc im half listening, its good background audio, and i was stressed working on so much hw for my final semester. I like to even say i graduated bc of thise long winded videos keeping me somewhat sane as i worked.
Interesting. I don't know anything about Quinton reviews but obviously I've seen Jenny's videos and I can't say how many times I've played the LBT and TVD videos. I think part of the reason I like them is they are long but not terribly long. I don't use them to fall asleep to but when I'm doing chores or something that will take about that amount of time.
ngl i did watch all 8 hours --usually to fall asleep, but i honestly hate the structure of the video. i was originally drawn in because the nostalgia but then the nostalgia became "remember when this happened, and then in the next episode remember when that happened, and then this happened in the episode after that" just because a project took a long time and the product is lengthy, doesn't mean it isn't lazy.
I love the super long video format, especially if it's something I already have prior knowledge about. I've watched 3+ hour long videos on Victorious, You story 4, SVTFOE, and mighty med. Please, any creators that are seeing this comment, don't be discouraged from making a multi hour long video about ANYTHING. I literally love that ish and I specifically look for long video essays to watch in my free time.
my own speculation but it feels like there's been a major surge in "virtual friend" type content since the start of the pandemic. I wouldn't call Quinton's videos "essays" so much as they are rants and conversations you'd find in fandom, not media analysis. You see the same thing with the popularity of these multi-hour podcasts where some friends just sit and have an unscripted discussion. You're not tuning in to learn anything or be enlightened, they're not even particularly entertaining, you're just hanging out with buddies while doing your chores, driving to work, scrolling on your phone, etc I haven't seen any polls or surveys but I have a feeling that this genre of video is popular with mostly 20-somethings who've found themselves isolated from family and friends these past few years. Making friends and meeting people is already difficult as a young adult and then covid happened and made it 1000x worse, you've gotta get your social needs met somehow...
It’s literally so easy to just not watch videos that are long lol, they’re not made for everyone and there is a large demographic of people who enjoy them. Not everything has to be concise in UA-cam videos that are very casually analyzing a piece of media and discussing opinions. I’m not even a big Quinton fan, nor do I watch the longer videos, but I truly don’t really understand the point of analyzing this like it’s an issue.
@@bdperry576 I literally said it wasn’t rlly a big quinton fan I’m not like, mad . I’m also allowed to state that I’m not really getting his point or agreeing with it lol. And it’s not hurting him to receive criticism on a video ✌️ Where exactly did I say it was an attack? No where
Hi everyone! Before I go to bed, I definitely need to clarify a few things before people get the wrong idea. The script was reworked about a million times and, as a consequence, it came out disjointed in a way that understandably made it appear quite condescending to some people and I apologize for rushing to put this out (I've set an informal Tuesday deadline for my videos). Firstly, I understand Quinton's videos are not solely for people to sleep to. A better way of putting it is that a large segment of his audience "passively listens" to his content, as one commenter put it. He has stated that they often listen to them while driving, doing chores, and, of course, while they're going to bed. Because Quinton caters to an audience predominantly consisting of people who passively listen in, his videos often do not "fit the mold of a witty video essay," as I stated, and that's not a shortcoming of his videos that makes them "bad", it's a feature of his videos that allows them to fulfill the insatiable demand for nostalgic content that people can get lost in with little effort. Quinton produces this kind of content with unparalleled skill, and is able to hold the attention of his audience even when going off script. Many have dismissed lengthy video essays as "being too much," and I understand where this crowd is coming from. It's really hard for me to sit through an 8 hour video, but when I encounter a lengthy video I don't care for, I try my best to understand what qualities about it that I'm not seeing at first glance potentially give it merit (unless it's a 4 hour long video about Nikocado Avocado, then I simply dismiss it immediately lol). To reference an apocryphal Einstein quote, making fun of a "video essay" that's really more of a clever walk down memory lane for being a poor work of hard hitting criticism is like making fun of a fish because it fares poorly at climbing trees.
There's no difference between how I listen to his content and yours. I never watched Victorious, but my little sister did and it was interesting to see how the show was made for her age-group in mind by mostly adult men with zero real understanding of her. Plus, Cat as a character was very interesting to me, just because she seemed neurodivergent, like on the nose neurodivergent, and as a joke struggles with a drug addiction. It could have almost been an intentional commentary, but it wasn't at all. It reminds me of my friend got an official VANS t-shirt and because of the font, instead of VANS, it says ANUS. That's how I feel about Cat as a character. People designed that t-shirt, pitched it, produced it, so many people looked at it, and nobody noticed and the people who may have noticed never said. Fascinating. Just because something is eight hours, doesn't mean that people aren't listening or engaging with the content in a critical way. There's plenty of video essayists that I won't watch because their content is vapid or meant to solely be elevator music in the background. Quinton isn't one of them and neither are you. If you were going to have a focus in this video, having a focus on that Nikacado video or something else equally mush, would have been a better idea. There's plenty of youtube essayists that just post long-ass videos detailing some persons Kiwifarms thread with limited changes. The Victorious one was a Patreon stretch goal he didn't think he'd reach and was clearly done with love for the source material. Plus, with the Trina stuff, it's perfectly fine to take what's canon about her character (desperate need to be special, open bullying/dismissal from her parents) and put that together coherently. I wasn't confused when I watched the video that Quinton was saying that was canon. It is absolutely a headcanon but technically, so is Sheldon in the Big Bang Theory being autistic or Ursula/Scar/Rattigan being queer. In the end, I know you're getting backlash for this video. But don't take my comment as backlash. You're a unique voice in the space and Colosseum is a bop.
I appreciate the apology as one of the people making that criticism. I still think framing his videos as quick turnovers he pumps out frequently is extremely dishonest. It's his full time job. Spending a few months to make an 8 hour video is not a quick turnover.
@@transmascswagHi! I should have specified in the video that when I said “a relatively short amount of time” in reference to the months that he spends making his videos, I was actually directly quoting him. He explained the struggle to make that video in its intermission and how he was even editing it on Christmas Eve. For 8 hours worth of content, even for a small team of people, a few months is a short turn around.
Other people have mentioned it already, but I am adding my voice into the chorus of ADD/ADHD individuals who love Quinton's (and similar creators') videos for being perfect accompaniment for activities that aren't engaging enough to sit and do on their own. Sewing a repair into one of my shirts? Folding my laundry? Throw on a video in the background so the other side of my brain has something to do
I draw while listening to videos and if I can find a long video so I don’t need to take a break to find another video to listen too, I will listen to the long video
Unless I am fabricating memories, he uses different clips of the girl being mistreated throughout the video. This video freels unnecessarily mean-spirited and condescending; you should have stuck to just the AI part.
Quentin is by no means the only popular UA-camr doing this. Jenny Nicholson and Mike’s Mic are two that also come to my mind. Personally, I’m a big fan of all three creators and I don’t have a problem with people making extremely long videos. I think they’re aware that most people don’t watch them all at once and usually just have them on in the background. I feel like it’s pretty harmless when it’s about stuff like tv shows and movies. Making videos that long or extensive about random internet people you don’t like is another thing entirely.
I think calling Quinton's videos video essays is incorrect. It's not an essay it's more of a rant. I don't open them to get a concise and well scripted coherent thesis, I click on it to be reminded of a childhood show that I had forgotten about while getting passionate side notes from the creator. It's kind of like listening to a friend talk about something they're passionate about.
I watched his Nickelodeon series all the time when I was pregnant. It’s like I was in such a high state of stress that I didn’t want anything that I had to think critically about. His videos were the perfect amount of listening and little stress
I 100% agree. Quinton's videos feel like a 2am call with your friend talking about random things like wich Victorious character doesn't believe in climate change. That's the entire reason I watch them
He has typical video essays on his channel and they have a very different vibe than his nickelodeon series retrospective
i dont crave ridiculously long videos to doze off to, i crave ridiculously long videos full of shit i dont care about to watch intently for the whole runtime and then promptly forget about
i think for me it provides the immersive feeling of reading a book or watching a show, but without the need to pay attention to every second of it. watching a bunch of shorter videos is good too but it can be overwhelming to keep changing topics. its nice for when im drawing, because i dont need to pay attention to the visuals like i would in a show
oh also i tried watching tro's nikocado video but i just couldnt
@@aspenrose_ wow this is exactly how i think of and use video essays too!! i hate having to turn my head away from my screen while i draw, especially when i'm in an "art frenzy" mode. so i often turn on loooong, listenable video essays to avoid having to find a new video to put on every couple dozen minutes. time spent finding new videos over hours of drawing really adds up
Nowadays watching these video essays on UA-cam are like committing yourself to binging a series of a show on a streaming service. It’s one of the many ways traditional media and UA-cam have crossed paths. Now they’re similar in how we consume the content both traditional and non traditional media provide.
People wonder why I’d rather see a video essay on most movies than the movies. I can’t see everything but I wanna get a hyper-extracted segment of its philosophy and meaning
Having never seen an episode of iCarly, Sam and Car, or Victorious... I was enthralled. I also can now comfortably say I understand every episode of said shows...😂
Yes, I loved watching these videos because I've never really watched these show but just seen clips before. And watching Quintons videos felt like watching these series faster and with a friend who does funny quips and sometimes goes on tangents.
I like to think of Quinton's videos as the equivalent of a Let's Play of the show. They're not "video essays" as such, because he doesn't go into them with a full understanding of everything that happens -- instead, he summarizes boring "gameplay" in the same way a Let's Player would summarize hours of grinding in a JRPG. We the viewer are presented with his thoughts in sort-of realtime. It's much closer in format to Chuggaconroy (scripted Let's Play/pseudo reaction content) than to someone like Jose (video essay analyzing a TV show).
A Let's Play of the show is such a good way to describe it
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I mean the thing you compare it to also sounds terrible
I've never thought about Quinton's videos in this "ambient sounds to fall asleep to" way, but it actually makes sense. I love listening to them while working, they're less distracting than music and won't make me sleepy like rain sounds do.
i love long tv show recap/analysis videos! i treat them more like audiobooks (which are often of a similarly long length) to listen to while commuting or doing chores, than a sub 1-hour video i'd actually sit down and watch. they aren't complete background noise, but they help my silly little adhd brain focus on whatever real-life task i have at hand. the detail given to describing the actual events of the show (as opposed to just doing an analysis of theme or character) means that i can basically 'watch' an entire show that i know i'd never really want to watch in less than a day.
that being said i would be so turned off by ai generated content - the tone of voice is always so dull and lacking in real person humour (referencing memes, past channel inside jokes, current events etc)
Yeah me too!
I appreciate this comment, because I have listened to multiple Quinton Reviews videos of background fodder while I do chores, and I was usually paying enough attention to think “oh this sounds weird/fascinating af, I gotta go grab my phone and see what’s on the screen” every once in a while. I would also listen to his videos while going to sleep, but is rewind when I woke up to catch what I missed.
I also know Quinton works really hard on his videos and his mental health has suffered for it, so I hope if he finds this video that he knows that many of his core fans find his videos to be much more than rain sounds. I think of him as a bit of an archivist.
Exactly the same here (Autistic, seeking ADHD dia) especially when I'm doing something like embroidery or reading, as much as I enjoy it my brain gets frustrated with how understimulating it can be and so these long videos work great, it also means I get to learn about things I'm not familiar with and opens up conversation topics (because small talk is horrid.)
yeah i love these, i currently watch videos that summarize every breaking bad episode, because i kinda want to relive the series without watching it again and they help me concentrate like you said
I think people like content they can consume as they do other things. Longer videos mean less time finding the next one. You can just put on your headphones, and your hands are free to continue doing whatever else needs to be done.
This is the same reason creators make yearly or monthly compilations of their content all in one long video, or why some youtubers upload their videos on other services as podcasts. It's why there are so many (bad, unnecessary) podcasts in the first place. It's why so many people listen to twitch streamers in the background. People have been trained to multitask by having their time and attention perpetually directed to ever-increasing demands, such as work, family, commute, managing health, politics, daily errands and chores, etc. In order to fit in any form of leisure time or psychologically recuperate from stress, it has to fit into the already crammed lives we all lead. Long form, primarily audio-based content is perfect for that.
Wow. I feel called out. I was recently commenting on LinkedIn that I really don't get to read for leisure the way I used to. Cause I'm an academic and I get paid to read (non leisure stuff lol). But my consumption of audio books and podcasts like The Magnus Archives has increased exponentially. And it is because I can work/write/mark papers while they play all day. I'm engaged with them but that's the only way I can consume a lot of fiction now, by adding it on top of my work. Wow. I'm depressed now.
This exactly
i watch that 8hr video while eating usually 30-60mins per meal, took me about a week to watch the whole thing lol
Also while I disagree with "watching video essays to sleep" if replaced with "watching it in the background" the point doesn't really change. It feels like a huge misstep to attribute it to wanting to sleep to, because people are just going to think you're dissing the video when at the end its put next to things people actually do (like listening to it in the background passively).
edit: typo lol
I agree! I focused on the sleeping part too much in the beginning and expanded upon/clarified that point too late in the video. People absolutely do use that video as a sleep aid, though. It’s in a few “video essays to fall asleep to” playlists on UA-cam, however “passive background listening” is a much more accurate and broader term that better captures the ways Quinton’s audience enjoys his content.
I kinda thought so too, but I think he clarifies himself pretty well after that and gets his point across. I mean, I heard a lot of people saying they fall asleep to Jenny Nicholson videos because she has a soothing voice, so it's nothing negative.
@@RobertTolppi you're really assuming a lot from a few playlists and random anecdotes. Most viewers watch in chunks and pay attention to what he says; it's not background noise. If we do things at the same time as watching it's probably because a lot of people who love this content are neurodivergent...
@@thefelicits "a lot of people who love this content are neurodivergent" Yeah, that's what kind of audience I figured this kind of thing is for. I watched HBomberguy's plagiarism video with my full concentration in about three sittings, but it's a very important video that needs to be that long. That's the longest video I've watched here, and I can't imagine I'll have to do it again.
Oh my ADHD autistic LOVES the 8 hour summaries and dissections Quinton does. He comes off as genuine, in a way, due to it. When I watch those videos, I can feel how much work he's overall put into the vids.
I enjoy the summaries cause for some of us, we might have not watched the show in ages, never finished it, or never seen it at all. It helps me feel caught up so that I understand what he's talking about in the other half.
In addition, I love just being able to put on an interesting video whilst I play a game or do chores or whatever. I don't have to get distracted every so often by trying to find what vid to watch next. I like it a lot.
Something about the way he talks, presents things, goes through the scenes/episodes/games/etc just tickles my ND brain somehow.
It's like... Oh! I know what it's like! It's like an autistic/adhd friend coming up and just infodumping the hell out of their special interests/hyperfixations to you.
And for me, I mean that in a good way. When people excitedly infodump to me, I find their excitement spreading to me, contagious. So something about the way he does things feels like that, if that makes sense. (Not saying he has autism or adhd, just that he comes off to me as someone really dedicated to his projects and passionate about them, and so his passion kinda spreads to me as I watch/listen.)
All in all whilst yeah he can meander, stuff like the summaries can be fun imo
Sameee
I feel the same way!
GOD same. i don't really treat it as one whole "video" and more of an audiobook to come back to every now and then.
Totally feel the same, some long
video essays aren’t that great when you can tell the creator doesn’t really care about the topic or just has really surface level takes on it, but when they’re really passionate about the subject I’m always happy to listen to the whole thing. I don’t think AI could ever replace it for me, I may listen to them in the background while doing other stuff but I’m not doing it totally braindead, I want to hear people passionately overanalyze/infodump about things they care about and have a lot to say about, if the video doesn’t actually have anything to say I’m not gonna listen.
I feel the same way! And he doesn't just do super long videos either. I really liked his shorter roasts of the History Channel
idk I love video essays, but now I'm appreciative of people who can make their points more consicely. the essays that get longer than an lotr movie's length with lots of vaguely relating topics in them tend to lose me
Whenever a video essay meanders a few too many times and/or gets repetitive it loses me. It's sad because YT is starting to value longer videos but a lot of 1 hour video essays could easily be made with the same jokes and human element AND the information in 20-30 minutes. Writing engaging video essays are def more of a skill than people realize, especially when most (and lol guilty as charged) people just put it on the background while they do stuff.
Like, I'm not talking about the 8 hour recap types, I mean even the 1-2 hour ones are just way too padded out sometimes and need a peer to edit and calm the script down a little because once you start noticing the dead air and repetitiveness of some (I wanna mention a specific creator so bad but it'll probably get me dogpiled LOL) video essays, it's REALLY hard not to notice it anymore.
I've watched that eight hour victorious video twice, I find it really entertaining
Nobody is expected to sit and watch these things in one sitting, and they make great 'fall asleep to' content especially for ADHD (more so than boring soothing music videos that my brain quickly filters out and wanders off)
I love Izzzyzzz videos too but those I watch 1 time full attention first (bc she's entertaining) and then leave it on my sleep playlist for rewatch. She has such a soothing voice and cadence and her topics are so fun 🫶🏼
I do the exact same thing i cant listen to music or white noise or whatever cause then my brain tunes it out and wanders and wont let me sleep
Well no I sit and watch the whole thing. Because I have ADHD :)
There was something fucking mesmerizing about The End of Victorious. I ate it up and immediately watched his videos on Icarly (of equally ridiculous length) and waited very intently for the Sam and Cat show. I mostly made fun of those shows when I was a kid for being girly. If you told me that I would really enjoy a random nerd on the internet making 24+ hours of content on these shows, I would think you are crazy. But yet here we are. I want more. I WANT MORE VICTORIOUS ESSAY!!
my neurodivergent ass who watched all of the iCarly and Victorious videos by Quinton in their entirety and paid attention to the entirety of all of them: 👁👄👁
my adhd ass who did the exact same. Got any other channel recs btw?
@@IsThatEtchas16leo does these rants really good
I watched it in a few sittings and had fun. Don't think I would watch videos like that just for the length so I could sleep?
same, i just love watching someone being passionate about some topic. i might have fallen asleep to some videos (often shorter videos tho) because i was tired from work and planned on going to bed soon anyways. it feels weird that the assumption was made in this video that it is just a video to fall asleep to.
i love dozing off to long ass video essays essentially rambling on about mediocre topics because it feels like falling asleep at a sleepover while your friends are chatting about their fave books or movies. Very cozy feeling when listening to someone just talk about a special interest without any rush or interruption. I also live alone, so hearing someone talking about stuff in a friendly manner feels very safe
Quintons long videos basically defined my last summer and i plan to have them do it again. the rewatchability of his vids is crazy
literally same, the two things i spent most of my free time on last summer were playing wizard101 and watching those vids
And that’s only 1 of the 2 part series! In total the 2 parts combined is exactly 13 hours and 40 minutes long.
Video essays hit the sweet spot between podcast and tv-series.
Podcasts are often unscripted and consists of two or more people rambling about one or many topics.
Tv-series usually demand some sort of attention through watching, on top of the fact some really drag on.
With a lengthy video essay, especially the "TV show recap" Mike's Mike format, you get to listen to the highlights of an entire tv show instead of actively watching it. I use it to re-live and gossip about shows I've already seen. I really enjoy them and I don't mind that the market is becoming saturated
I watched the end of victorious. took me 3 days. I think its his best type of content, keeps him from going on an unmedicated parasocial rampage with other creators he barely knows.
"plight". Let people enjoy, alright?
The insane length and the insane amount of work that has to flow into doing an actual essay on a series is part of the fun. It's like when Brian David Gilbert did intensive amounts of research to find out which pokemon is edible or whatever small, fringe, silly questions they were, the disproportionality is part of the appeal.
i love long essay or retrospective videos to study or to draw to, where as a movie or series id have to pay attention to know whats going on, an eight hour victorious doesn't have the same constraints
Oh, just to be clear to everyone, the Nikacodo Avocado vid is not by Quinton Reviews. I think it's by Turkey Tom?
Idk what to tell you, some of us just like watching 8 hour-long recaps of Nickelodeon shows (and aren't bothered by jokes and fan theories) 🙃 Quinton puts a hell of a lot of effort into these videos and they're an absolute blast to watch.
It's crazy to me that he was annoyed about the fan theories
@@balusters agreed, they are meant to be humourous I'm pretty sure
The AI thing is already happening with this. Those Reddit videos are literally just a computer voice reciting anything interesting found on a Reddit thread for upwards of 20 minutes, sometimes an hour or more
I really like Quintons videos because I could listen to them at work and not have to change to anything else so my boss couldn’t complain about me being on my phone so much like how I would be flipping through songs or 10 minute videos.
I watched the whole thing. Twice😅
Bro that victorious video was awesome I’ve watched it twice, I do watch most of my videos on a higher speed tho.
Yep! I haven't seen a single one of those teen sitcoms, but I found Quinton's videos on them oddly compelling and educational. I also watch most things on 1.25x-1.75, depending.
The more corporate “video essays” that are just stock footage about some place or event suck, but all the best UA-camrs make one 8 hour video every 6 months about some show or game you’ve never heard of
I love long videos! even if they could be redundant or go into unecessary depth, it's lovely playing it in the background while I do something else. i don thave to constantly switch to another video, and when i leave and come back to that task, resuming the video feels almost like a save point and gets me back on my groove a lot faster.
I love retrospectives thought 😭 the quiton reviews ones aren't just recaps; he talks about other things throughout the videos, even during the synopsis of the episodes
I think Quintons videos about icarly and victorious are for people who havent seen the show. As someone who has seen those shows, his video got boring quick when i realized he was just re-capping every episode. Like, I know what happens.
But! On the flipside, I really liked Jenny Nicholson's video on the vampire diaries, cause I havent seen the show and wanted to know the plot. Event though her video is vastly different in legnth
Same with Nightmare Masterclass. He going through a piece of media and then makes his analysis. 90% of the media he dissects I've never seen and have no intention of seeing (I don't play video games, for example) so that description works for me.
While on lockdown, I got very into long video essays to help me draw because it simulated being in lecture and not paying attention
I love video essays because I can continually come back to them. They also make good background noise while im cleaning or doing something else. I watched both Quentins victorious and icarly vids! I also love deep dives on shows/music/movies/ business practices too
I can't play minecraft without a video essay playing in the bg which is really sad now that I think about it
I personally watched the video in the thumbnail from beginning to end and loved it not all of us are fried from short form content and just love a good binge watch
This is so true I love watching long game lore videos. If you make an hour and a half video about a game I’ve never heard of or 5 hour video about a book I meant to read 10 years ago, I’m there.
What is it about us? Lol. I've never played a video game in my life but I watch all Hbomberguy's video game dissections and some I've watched more than once!
I love long videos and find a lot more shorts that seem to be made by ai lol
You nailed it with the ChatGPT to Siri videos
While I don't watch 8hr videos, I watch a lot of 1-2he length videos that talk about social justice issues, from creators like FD signifier, Contrapoints and Philosophytube. They're great to listen along to in a similar fashion to a podcast imo.
aye fd signifier!
I’m OBSESSED with these super long video essays, I’ve watched all of Quintens videos of similar length, and every other channel with hour+ videos I dive into gleefully.
There are certainly long form videos out there that deserve the run time. long form content in an of itself is an artform and of course deserves to exist. Personally I really enjoy longer videos to have on in the background and absorb over a week. Probably different than a lot of the audience here but video game people, those interested in Bethesda games have a plethora of long video essays to choose from, some being up to 9 hours long and a good deal of those are worth the watch, inviting plenty of discussion with alot of focused effort behind them (I'd recommend patriciantv). I think it always depends on the the subject matter, is deep enough to warrant discussion, are there points to be made, is there an overlap between what a particular video has to say and another on the same topic.Particularly Id harp on the point that the creator knows you wont consume all the video in one sitting. Its those that tailor the experience with this in mind whilst also not wanting to split up their video portfolio that truly shine.
What upset me recently was a video essay from Turkey Tom, who I at least kinda enjoyed up to that point. He decided to make a video about Chris-chan.
1. For the love of God can we leave her alone already? Making more videos about her A. only serves to pry further into her personal life and B. it brings her back into the internet's attention and could result in further harassment and abuse to her.
She's never gonna be able to get proper help for her mental issues if she's being constantly harassed again. Leave her alone, let her hopefully get treatment, and cross your fingers that she's able to get treated and come to her senses and actually feel guilty for what she's done.
2. From the very start of it, he misgendered her. I don't know what's so hard about using someone's correct pronouns! I don't even care if someone thinks she's a girl or not; no matter what gender she is, if she says "call me she/her" we should fuckin do that. We don't misgender cis criminals, so don't do it to her.
* sigh * had to unfollow him for that one. His audience was trying to tell me it didn't matter, but it does! It matters how we treat people, even criminals! Pronouns aren't just a *priveledge* that can be yanked away whenever someone does shitty stuff. It's basic humanity that should be shown to even despicable people.
3. I'm just really creeped out because why was the video necessary? Who needed a new invasive transphobic Chris-chan video in 2023??? No one was asking for this
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Oh God and i avoid anything even mentioning Nikocado Avocado. Everything I've learned about that man, I've learned against my will.
I actually hate when youtubers make other youtubers the subject of their deep dives or video analysis. At least icarly and victorious are just old Nickelodeon properties. It won’t lead to cyber bullying or an unending cycle of ‘clap back’ videos.
Turkey Tom has always been a mean little boy. Now he's just a mean young adult.
i know mentioning this is probably gonna start a shitstorm but just to preface i do not agree with the people who misgender chris chan, but ive seen both trans people and transphobes alike misgender her or dismiss her identity entirely either under the premise of optics or because shes "crazy and mentally ill and doesnt know what shes talking about". it sucks. unfortunately tom is just another cog in a unending cycle of people making fun of a disabled flawed person on the internet because it makes them feel a little better.
hes always been reactionary
That’s what was the final straw that broke the camels back in me continuing to watch thegamerfrommars. I don’t understand why people aggressively misgender so. Basic human decency should never be a thing only afforded to people living up to decency-standards. Even the most vile human in history deserves basic human rights.
Lily Simpson made a 10 hour long video essay on the Harry Potter film franchise, so there are longer videos on here then that 8 hour one lol
I just discovered that channel. What a coincidence.
I watch Quinton's videos for his personality and humor and whacky takeaways from very 2000's random lol shows. They were very helpful on a long train ride for a recent vacation.
I really appreciate that this video is just 11 minutes long.
idk but i watched all of the videos in that series in like 4 days and am waiting for the next one. i love long videos like that.
This makes me wanna make video essay asmr lol
Id like to point out the 20 hour skyrim video essay by patricianTV...
That man is insane and I love him
I personally love long video essays and I don't use them to fall asleep.
I love Quinton's videos and I find them actually interesting, I listen as I work since I work from home
As someone who grew up with these shows, but never got to see them in full or very often because we didn't have cable, I love these long retrospectives because they let me in a way watch the entire series without having to do so
I've also been a consumer of long Form content before 2020, so I was delighted when I found Quinton reviews, I also happen to love Garfield
Fools, Your 8 hour video becomes only 4 hours when you play it at 2x speed.
I’d sit and watch Quintens entire Nickelodeon analysis series while working but ONLY when I was working so I think I finished all the videos in a month or so
3:55 feels like a lot of todays viewers grew up on free content and paying for individual creator content (compared to a platform) is not a practice people are used to.
Compare that to the 90s/early 2000s where imo indie zines, blogs, music, movies had a decent market. Sure it was still niche and people weren’t making millions, but like you say, it allowed creators to do what they did for a living.
I can’t quite pin down what I’m trying to say, or what the solution is, but it’s like a cultural practice? died out. Not people pay for the platforms like UA-cam Premium. Support creators directly if you enjoy their work!
I absolutely adore Quinton’s long videos, I originally put them on during college bc it was something I could pop in-out of attention wise without much worry about missing a drastic point. But now, I recognize them as being a manifestation of a hyperfixation in video form, which is totally something I would probably do if I had more time for my own interests.
It’s literally just a fun summary and overview of a Nickelodeon show that a lot of people watched and felt nostalgic for. Why are you acting like it should be held to the same standards as an academic paper 💀💀
We know the theories are just theories and take them with a grain of salt. It’s just a fun experience to take part in. Similar to MatPat’s videos I guess, we know “it’s just a theory”, but it’s still fun to speculate. It’s a fictional show, obviously I draw the line when they speculate about the actor’s/actress’s real life’s, but this is not that.
No one is acting like it should be held to an academic standard but his essays could be an hour long (if that) and his points could still stand. Instead it's a bloated mess going into excruciating detail for the sake of it and long winded for the sake of it.
@@drghostduck The point is to talk about every episode of the series and clearly there's an audience for it.
Just because YOU think it's a bloated mess doesn't make it so. Plenty of people have watched his long videos and enjoy it.
Sometimes you aren't the target demographic for a thing.
@carol If the majority of your video essay is recounting episodes, it's not a very good or thought-provoking essay, it's just a retelling events. If most of your video essay is filler/fluff to pad out the runtime then maybe you should rewrite/edit it. I never denied there wasn't an audience for it, I've watched all of his video essays, but they're more akin to ambient noise than anything of substance.
@Dr Ghost Duck You know what's funny? His channel is called Quinton Reviews. He calls these videos a deep dive and a review. Does he ever claim that these are video essays? That they're supposed to be thought-provoking?
Or does he treat them like what they are? A deep dive into a show he watched, where he reviews the episodes and relationships?
I have no idea why you think these videos have to be thought-provoking. And just like i said, you might not like it, but others do. No need to watch them. He makes videos on shows he watched, and he talks about them in detail. He isn't trying to change the landscape of philosophical thought. He reviews shows. So he reviewed Victorious, and he talked about it for a long period of time.
Fan theories on the damn Secret Fourth Sherlock Season tried to come off as more intellectual than this. He is reviewing a show and having fun.
@carol But they're not even a deep-dive, its a surface level recount of everything that has happened in the show. I don't know why you're getting upset about this whole thing. Also you mention his name as if that adds anything, his videos are barely reviews. As I said I've watched his reviews and enjoy them for what they are (mindless background noise for me to listen too whilst I'm busy). I also never said they should be though provoking or suggest they were marketed that way, merely that they weren't thought provoking. They're just a bloated mess of a recount of a TV series which can still be useful or entertaining depending on who watches it.
I listen to long commentary, video essay, or rant videos while I draw or do other tasks. It feels like a weird assertion to say most people only ever enjoy it if they’re gonna fall asleep to it?
I love these long videos to keep my attention, it quells the adhd in my brain. And i get to reiminisce and learn stuff, so i appreciate these Videos.
One of my favorite video essays is Pyrocynicles Utopia video where he reacts and talks about the series. The 7 hour video was basically a mini show I spent a week watching
I don't know about sleep-watchers being totally indiscriminate. My go-tos for falling asleep are Jenny Nicholson, Folding Ideas and Shaun, because I love their videos and their voices, they don't really ever shout (unlike Hbomb might, or Quinton), and I've watched all their videos before, so my brain doesn't feel the need to try to keep up.
Sometimes I do choose new stuff - new podcast episodes or long videos I want to watch, but if it's too dull I get annoyed, if it's too interesting I might not fall asleep, and if their voice isn't soothing or their personality annoying it will be entirely counter-productive.
Quinton's videos might be especially suited to this kind of sleep watching, since it is lengthy and a bit silly and full of cul-de-sacs, but it's not as different from what Jenny does as you imply IMO - their channels are both very personality and vibe driven over content driven, creating this warm, cozy space.
The longest video essay I'm currently watching is 21 hours😂
I watched both Patrician's 30 hour analysis on Morrowind and Matthewmatosis's 6 hour analysis on Dark Souls 1 this week. Granted both at 2x speed and both are designed to be broken down into chapters. Did not sleep to either. No difference between a series of videos released all at once and a single long video with chapters.
I feel such delight whenever quinton posts a big video I adored every minute of his overly long video essays
i dont really mind these types of videos but i am TIRED of everything being called an essay or analysis or commentary when very often something is a recap or more of a documentary with a liiiiiittle bit of opinion added. it is certainly one of my biggest pet peeves nowadays.
I feel like Quinton's mid-point theory segments like the Trina one aren't necessarily meant to include this thorough in-depth analysis that you're wanting. It's meant to be more of a funny joke. Some parts may have validity to them but for the most part - it's just supposed to be fun. The run time is more of him wanting to best himself and see how long he can make a video. As someone who's been watching his videos for a very long time I feel like this take isn't super reasonable trying to equate it with rain sound videos. I'm obviously 100% biased in this lol but still, I feel like you could've done some more research and maybe ask Quinton his reasoning behind the videos and their length, since you want more thorough content and all.
I agree. I’m not a fan of Quinton anymore, but I used to watch his videos like 3-5 years ago and I definitely thought he was joking. It reminds me of some of his older dry jokes.
I watched it in 4 or 5 parts lol
i love long form content, 8 hour essays are necessary to fight off short form content boredom
I definitely clicked on this video so that I could take a nap but after tuning in to what you were talking about it seemed too ironic to fall asleep
Lol
You can't diss my man the Right Opinion and get away with it!
You can certainly have long video essays that justify their length. Action Button’s Tokimeki Memorial review provides the viewer a detailed breakdown of the gameplay experience since there is a language barrier for most western viewers. While also offering his own personal life experiences and how they make him more deeply connected to the game.
Then Folding Idea’s essay on crypto and NFTs was a wholistic takedown of crypto scams that effectively shut down every counter argument before they had the chance.
You can certainly pull it off, but you just need enough interesting content to do so
I love Quinten reviews his videos are ideal for getting my 10k steps in every day.
I don't always agree with his opinion but I still love the work he puts in.
Quintons videos are amazing, there is no such thing about too long.
I liked Quinton's videos even if they long bc im half listening, its good background audio, and i was stressed working on so much hw for my final semester. I like to even say i graduated bc of thise long winded videos keeping me somewhat sane as i worked.
As a side note, you’ve convinced me to finally support you on Patreon. I love what you’re doing!
Interesting. I don't know anything about Quinton reviews but obviously I've seen Jenny's videos and I can't say how many times I've played the LBT and TVD videos. I think part of the reason I like them is they are long but not terribly long. I don't use them to fall asleep to but when I'm doing chores or something that will take about that amount of time.
If only this video was also 8 hours long
ngl i did watch all 8 hours --usually to fall asleep, but i honestly hate the structure of the video. i was originally drawn in because the nostalgia but then the nostalgia became "remember when this happened, and then in the next episode remember when that happened, and then this happened in the episode after that" just because a project took a long time and the product is lengthy, doesn't mean it isn't lazy.
I’m constantly running out of UA-cam videos to watch because the algorithm is garbage. So the longer the better lol
I tried to fall asleep listening to this video, but it was too interesting.
I love the super long video format, especially if it's something I already have prior knowledge about. I've watched 3+ hour long videos on Victorious, You story 4, SVTFOE, and mighty med.
Please, any creators that are seeing this comment, don't be discouraged from making a multi hour long video about ANYTHING. I literally love that ish and I specifically look for long video essays to watch in my free time.
I watch Quintons video for something interesting to listen to while working.
my own speculation but it feels like there's been a major surge in "virtual friend" type content since the start of the pandemic. I wouldn't call Quinton's videos "essays" so much as they are rants and conversations you'd find in fandom, not media analysis. You see the same thing with the popularity of these multi-hour podcasts where some friends just sit and have an unscripted discussion. You're not tuning in to learn anything or be enlightened, they're not even particularly entertaining, you're just hanging out with buddies while doing your chores, driving to work, scrolling on your phone, etc
I haven't seen any polls or surveys but I have a feeling that this genre of video is popular with mostly 20-somethings who've found themselves isolated from family and friends these past few years. Making friends and meeting people is already difficult as a young adult and then covid happened and made it 1000x worse, you've gotta get your social needs met somehow...
It’s literally so easy to just not watch videos that are long lol, they’re not made for everyone and there is a large demographic of people who enjoy them. Not everything has to be concise in UA-cam videos that are very casually analyzing a piece of media and discussing opinions. I’m not even a big Quinton fan, nor do I watch the longer videos, but I truly don’t really understand the point of analyzing this like it’s an issue.
If anything matters in this discussion its whether or not editors are being paid fairly, which was brought up by other ppl in the comments.
I mean someone exploring various elements of the UA-cam ecosystem from their own perspective isn’t really an attack on you or the things you like
@@bdperry576 I literally said it wasn’t rlly a big quinton fan I’m not like, mad . I’m also allowed to state that I’m not really getting his point or agreeing with it lol. And it’s not hurting him to receive criticism on a video ✌️
Where exactly did I say it was an attack? No where
Hi everyone! Before I go to bed, I definitely need to clarify a few things before people get the wrong idea. The script was reworked about a million times and, as a consequence, it came out disjointed in a way that understandably made it appear quite condescending to some people and I apologize for rushing to put this out (I've set an informal Tuesday deadline for my videos). Firstly, I understand Quinton's videos are not solely for people to sleep to. A better way of putting it is that a large segment of his audience "passively listens" to his content, as one commenter put it. He has stated that they often listen to them while driving, doing chores, and, of course, while they're going to bed. Because Quinton caters to an audience predominantly consisting of people who passively listen in, his videos often do not "fit the mold of a witty video essay," as I stated, and that's not a shortcoming of his videos that makes them "bad", it's a feature of his videos that allows them to fulfill the insatiable demand for nostalgic content that people can get lost in with little effort. Quinton produces this kind of content with unparalleled skill, and is able to hold the attention of his audience even when going off script. Many have dismissed lengthy video essays as "being too much," and I understand where this crowd is coming from. It's really hard for me to sit through an 8 hour video, but when I encounter a lengthy video I don't care for, I try my best to understand what qualities about it that I'm not seeing at first glance potentially give it merit (unless it's a 4 hour long video about Nikocado Avocado, then I simply dismiss it immediately lol). To reference an apocryphal Einstein quote, making fun of a "video essay" that's really more of a clever walk down memory lane for being a poor work of hard hitting criticism is like making fun of a fish because it fares poorly at climbing trees.
There's no difference between how I listen to his content and yours. I never watched Victorious, but my little sister did and it was interesting to see how the show was made for her age-group in mind by mostly adult men with zero real understanding of her.
Plus, Cat as a character was very interesting to me, just because she seemed neurodivergent, like on the nose neurodivergent, and as a joke struggles with a drug addiction. It could have almost been an intentional commentary, but it wasn't at all. It reminds me of my friend got an official VANS t-shirt and because of the font, instead of VANS, it says ANUS. That's how I feel about Cat as a character. People designed that t-shirt, pitched it, produced it, so many people looked at it, and nobody noticed and the people who may have noticed never said. Fascinating. Just because something is eight hours, doesn't mean that people aren't listening or engaging with the content in a critical way.
There's plenty of video essayists that I won't watch because their content is vapid or meant to solely be elevator music in the background. Quinton isn't one of them and neither are you. If you were going to have a focus in this video, having a focus on that Nikacado video or something else equally mush, would have been a better idea. There's plenty of youtube essayists that just post long-ass videos detailing some persons Kiwifarms thread with limited changes. The Victorious one was a Patreon stretch goal he didn't think he'd reach and was clearly done with love for the source material. Plus, with the Trina stuff, it's perfectly fine to take what's canon about her character (desperate need to be special, open bullying/dismissal from her parents) and put that together coherently. I wasn't confused when I watched the video that Quinton was saying that was canon. It is absolutely a headcanon but technically, so is Sheldon in the Big Bang Theory being autistic or Ursula/Scar/Rattigan being queer.
In the end, I know you're getting backlash for this video. But don't take my comment as backlash. You're a unique voice in the space and Colosseum is a bop.
I appreciate the apology as one of the people making that criticism. I still think framing his videos as quick turnovers he pumps out frequently is extremely dishonest. It's his full time job. Spending a few months to make an 8 hour video is not a quick turnover.
@@transmascswagHi! I should have specified in the video that when I said “a relatively short amount of time” in reference to the months that he spends making his videos, I was actually directly quoting him. He explained the struggle to make that video in its intermission and how he was even editing it on Christmas Eve. For 8 hours worth of content, even for a small team of people, a few months is a short turn around.
I’ll have to agree with IsthatEtchas when I say that I listen to your vidoes in the exact same way I listen to quiten reviews content
My autistic ass LOVES 5+ hr video game retrospectives
Other people have mentioned it already, but I am adding my voice into the chorus of ADD/ADHD individuals who love Quinton's (and similar creators') videos for being perfect accompaniment for activities that aren't engaging enough to sit and do on their own. Sewing a repair into one of my shirts? Folding my laundry? Throw on a video in the background so the other side of my brain has something to do
I like it as something to watch while building lego or doing homework and i like watching videos of shows that correlate with childhood memories
I love your videos. Your objectivity is refreshing. You and Jimmy Robbins keep slapping out bangers.
I would watch an 8 hour Jenny Nicholson rainsound video style rant about all of the animatronics she wants to steal
Me watching this video because I'm taking a 10 minute break from work 😅
I draw while listening to videos and if I can find a long video so I don’t need to take a break to find another video to listen too, I will listen to the long video
Unless I am fabricating memories, he uses different clips of the girl being mistreated throughout the video. This video freels unnecessarily mean-spirited and condescending; you should have stuck to just the AI part.
i agree!!
This, this entire video felt so spiteful for no reason
I remember watching that video!!
Quentin is by no means the only popular UA-camr doing this. Jenny Nicholson and Mike’s Mic are two that also come to my mind. Personally, I’m a big fan of all three creators and I don’t have a problem with people making extremely long videos. I think they’re aware that most people don’t watch them all at once and usually just have them on in the background. I feel like it’s pretty harmless when it’s about stuff like tv shows and movies. Making videos that long or extensive about random internet people you don’t like is another thing entirely.
I like how this is pretty much how FNAF lore is pretty much this concept.
reallll. I've semi listened to thousands of hours of FNAF lore 😭
yeah pretty much
Nah leave my guy quinton alone 😭
imagine this video a was a second shorter than the video he was talking about