I'm Dutch and have lived in the Netherlands all my life. What really has my mind spinning, is how reluctant teachers in schools are to properly teach about this part of history. I'd like to think I was lucky enough to have had teachers who didn't shy away from difficult subjects. In my town (somewhere in the southeast of the Netherlands), we thoroughly discussed slavery and the tragedies of past big wars. At the age of 10-12 I was taught and confronted with this. It stuck. It was very impressive. Hard to imagine it was all once reality. I can hardly imagine someone not knowing the truth behind all that has happened. What was going on, on the other side of slave trade and the Holocaust too. The story is often told far too close minded. There's no single point of truth in all of this. What we perceive as true, isn't what the other side perceives as true. If you don't have access to the entire story, you're not blind or ignorant, you simply don't know. Which hardens conversations. I hope young children will get taught the entire story more and more. Yes, it's impressive, but starting age 10, it'll sink in. You'll have that knowledge for the rest of your life. And I believe it'll make for better adults.
You can buy slaves TODAY in Afrika. Why not work on that? The past is the past. The whole world had slaves in the past. And it originated in Afrika. They enslaved white people for 800 years. The trans atlantic slave trade was (only) 200 years. Please excusses and reparations for the white slavery.
The keti koti festival is for when the slaves in Suriname where set free by the dutch. Keti koti means chain cutting is the Suriname language. It's a Suriname festival that is also being held in the Netherlands.
Goed zo Josephine, you are not afraid of facts. This is your best video so far. Honest and open minded, even though the facts are so disturbing and possibly confronting. Well said!
As a middle-aged white male, i've never felt I had the right to talk about this subject. You have been amazingly honest and frank. I think the King has done the right thing. I am also of your opinion about reparations, how could you possibly give money to people to compensate for the horrors their ancestors experienced. I am pretty sure that most Black Americans don't want to be offered a ticket back to Africa, all expenses paid. So the only thing to be done is exactly what you are advocating - educate, teach, inform, talk about it as much as you can so that the racism and discrimination which still exist can be overcome. I am pleased that all the comments below are positive as I was sure there would be a kneejerk reaction from some people who would be shocked at what you have to say and criticize you. So as well as your honesty, thank you for your bravery.
That slavery and slavetrade was inhumane we don't need to dispute. But I agree with you that we should not always see it as something exclusively between Europeans (always culprits) and Africans (always victims). The reality was far more complex. A lot of Dutch people feel therefore a bit uneasy with the present wave of demands for excuses and compensation by the supposed ascendants of the culprits to the supposed ascendants of the victims.
Exactly my point. It’s not as straightforward as it sounds and many people do not want to acknowledge the truth… slavery occurred in almost every facet of the world at that time. It was inhumane and barbaric but so were the practices that occurred at that time. An example was in my tribe, new born twins were killed because according to the leaders they were a curse from the gods (imagine for one moment the pain mothers had to endure) . Anyway I hope we all learn from this and find a way to move on 🥹
When I wrote these first two comments, I hadn't seen the whole video yet. It is very sad to know that to this day, we Africans still do not know even half of what happened and still happens on the African continent. But thank God, little by little the truth is reaching people's eyes....
Thank you for enlightening us about the slave trade going on in Africa, black people using other black people as slaves, unbelievable!! I also like to wish you a happy birthday for today...
Europeans also sold other Europeans into slavery on a massive scale. Venice got rich mainly by selling Slavic slaves to the byzantines in North Africa. Prague was once a huge slave market selling slaves to the Venetians.
@@josphineogugua For me it felt like the Kwaku-festival. A lot of music and food - but I felt less of the original vibe and message of Keti Koti as I experienced in the previous editions in the Oosterpark.
Its weird to see how people say how many school didn't properly teach this stuff. All the schools I went to had special lessons (not classes) pertaining Slavery in economical and humanitary terms. in my second to last school in The Hague we were taught about the first slave ships (dutch were the first btw), djahomi and the African desporia resulting from it. In humanitary terms we had lessons about how slavery worked, (not in great detail mind you) liberation and keti koti and the evils of slavery. We also had occasional video lesson I vaguely remember about suriname, ghana and again Keti Koti. I remember in the Anne Frank School in The Hague we had a special lesson about both Bogota and paramaribo and how people lived there and the results of slavery. This is of course not enough. but we learned enough to get interested in it. for me at least. Funny enough I never had African Suriname kid in class. We had two indian Surinamese girls in class (they were evil) Before that I had a Congolese kid and before that in 8th grade I think he was from Kenya but I was like 10 so I don't remember much about him. So yeah never had a african surinamese kid in class and their input would have helped. _________________________________________________________ So yeah about this, when i heard it I was taken aback a bit. Generally in my mind I thought we already admissioned a apology decades ago and frankly it should have been done decades ago. Same with Indonesia. _______________________________________________________ Lastly I suggest watching this documentary about people still understanding Ghanan in Suriname ua-cam.com/video/A-3Z1KbYUj4/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/Kv_T30rqo0Y/v-deo.html
Wauw!! Hoe gruwelijk is het als mensen hun eigen volk gaan offeren (niet op een brandstapel maar je offert hun leven op) om zelf comfortabeler te leven. Het is absoluut gruwelijk maar gebeurd helaas nu ook nog. Mensen die hun kind verkopen zodat ze wat geld hebben om te eten en we alleen maar mogen hopen dat deze kinderen niet in de kinderprostitutie belanden. Om te huilen….eerlijk waar 😭😭😭
Aaaah! En wat denk je van Frankrijk. Die tot de dag van vandaag 14 Afrikaanse landen chanteert met moord en ze gedwongen zij n 85% van de welvaart van hun land in Frankrijk op de bank moeten storten. Waarom denk je dat Afrikanen vluchten uit die 14 landen?? Hoe moeten ze investeren in hun eigen economie, hun eigen infrastructure, school, ziekenhuizen en dergelijke als ze worden gechanteerd om hun welvaart af te staan.?? Daarom zijn ze op de middellandse zee ik overvolle bootjes. Maar daar hoor je niks van. Hoe zou jij het vinden als Nederland 85% van hun welvaart aan Spanje moest afstaan na de 80 jarige oorlog? Hoe zou jij het vinden als Nederland 85% van hun welvaart miet afstaan aan feankrijk na de oorlog key napoleon?? Hoe zou jij het vinden als Nederland 85% van hun welvaart moest afstaan aan Duitsland na de 2e wereld oorlog??
@@rodniegsm1575 Het zijn vrij ernstige aantijgingen richting Frankrijk wat je daar schrijft, ik had er nooit van gehoord. Ik weet wel dat deze landen waar je het over hebt franc CFA valuta’s gebruiken die vroeger aan de Franse franc was gekoppeld en nu gekoppeld aan de euro. Ondanks de monetaire stabiliteit die dit systeem nu geeft voor deze landen, is ook kritiek over dit systeem omdat De CFA-Franc is immers gekoppeld aan de euro, en dit geeft ‘Europa’ een aanzienlijke economische en politieke invloed op CFA-landen. Er zijn nu acht landen die de franc CFA niet meer gebruiken maar de ECO maar wederom ondanks de nadelen hebben ze het ook gekoppeld aan de Euro.
I'm Dutch and I have nothing to apologize for. No one of this generations have had slaves and no one living now has been a slave. I' feel sorry for Suriname which was given independence in 1975 and six years later blew itself up. I wish them the best and hope it will get better.
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Thank you for adressing this delicate topic. Proponants say that these excuses and reparations are necessary to repair the damaged relation between indigenous people on one hand and those originating from former colonies. But then I wonder why focus only on the transatlantic slave-trade and not the arab slavetrade in East-Africa, the ottoman slavetrade and the white people who were enslaved by the Moors (that is what 'Zwarte Piet' refers to) and had to row in their ships. The Gnawa in Marrakesh (Morocco) originally came from Sudan. Why so many pictures of ships packed with slaves and none of how these people were 'shipped' thousands of kilometers through the desert? I suspect that the reason for this is just plain greed and in any case not a good way to repair the mutual understanding!
These excuses where very important for the descendants of the enslaved. As a recognition of what their ancestors endured. The trade was just the start of an exploitation that went on for generations. We as Dutch have the obligation to fully accept them as equals and recognize the tremendous contributions they have made to the wealth and beauty of this nation. I think we’re making progress to get in terms with the past and this is a part of it.
I appreciate the very nuanced view you have. As someone who knows the history, and how "the whites" didn't just snatch up people, knowing these people were sold off by neighbouring tribes, it feels bad to see the people who bought the slaves as guilty. These people were slaves, regardless. And it is and was all kinds of wrong, but it was also a product of the time. I don't believe reparations are in order, not if Africans don't start paying reparations amongst themselves.
In Africa and the Middle East at least, it is still happening today. In fact, white people were the first in the history of the world to abolish and actively combat slavery. And as for victims, the word slave comes from the Slavs (Eastern European white people) who were enslaved by the millions by the Muslim Turks and later the Ottoman empire. Generally I like to let people learn from history to avoid making the same mistakes. But I do not give, nor ask for apologies from the generations coming after the events. I don't even ask for apologies from Germany anymore. Nobody in Germany today is guilty of the genocidal behavior they showed us in the Netherlands. Every generation must be able to start with a clean sheet and learn about what NOT to do anymore.
@@strawberry-jq9fu Europeans did it in the late byzutine era around the year 1000 and then we started doing it to africans later. Slavs are Roman Slaves who were freed after the empire fell / moved to the east, its literally where the name came from and not from the ottomans or turks @Ronald .
The truth is that many Afro-Asian ethnicities are today on the African continent... but one day they left the Asian continent during 1400 years of Arab slavery and came to the African continent... and when they arrived they did not arrive as friends of the African. .. be careful with the word Europeans, because before they assaulted the African continent, the European continent had already been assaulted... that's right... the true Europeans were also colonized... I like your videos!
Nice video Zoba.. I wish more people make such videos that sheds light into the history of slavery from the all perspective. Although I'm not a big fan of this topic and I still feel Europeans really did us dirty (kai!! Imagine, one umbrella = 40 human beings) but I think its time for everyone to move on from being the victims. If you look at this topic of slavery very very well, it all went back into the biblical times. The God of the bible many people serve today accepted slavery. Jesus Christ himself made some sayings how a slave should be obedient to his master. (Sentitive subject but true) So my sister you really tried in sheding some light into this matter. Keep it up sis!
That slavery has been part and parcel of the human existence doesn't mean that the God of the Bible accepted it. The God of the Bible gave humans a free will, which means that we are free to decide for ourselves, with the God of the Bible being principled enough to respects our choices. Since the fall humans have always been inclined to sin and transgress. Humans don't learn from history either, we are inclined to seek or own good at the expense of the common good, and thus act irrationally especially when we are not at the receiving end of woes. When were are victims we kick and scream but give the victim a chance and he/she will become worse than the oppressor. The God of the Bible prophesied about Christ, which Jesus Christ himself acknowledged, that Christ came to set the captives free (Isaiah 61:1, Lake 4:18). This aspect of the goodness of God is demonstrated in God using Moses as an instrument in the liberation of the children of Israel from 400 plus years of slavery, in fulfillment of the promise which He made to Abraham (Genesis 15:13, Exodus 4:22)---the reason(s) for their being subjected to slavery I won't dwell on for the sake of time. As for your claim that Christ instructed slaves to obey their masters, correction: this was rather a quote from Paul in his epistles (letters) to the one of the churches (Ephesians 6:5-9). Please get your facts straight. The God of the Bible WILL not impose His ways on anyone EXCEPT you are in a pact or covenant with Him, like the children of Israel were, where their fathers and posterity went into such covenants aware of the conditions that they entailed, and in search of the goodness and providence of God. God is not lawless, on the contrary He commits Himself to the laws He has set in place(Psalm 138:2). Even in going into such covenants people still repeatedly transgressed by failing to meet their side of the bargain as we read many a times in the Bible---That is human nature for you, after all as we all know that no one is perfect except God! A definite and indisputable quote by Christ describing the loving, merciful and kind nature of God can be found in Matthew 5:43-45. As I said before, God gave humans a free will, we can decide to do good or evil, serve Him or not, but whatever we choose to do we and our descendants WILL bear the consequences. This fact has been proven time without number. In the Classical period when Jesus and His contemporaries walked the earth there were slaves and masters of varied nationalities, colours, creeds, etc. The apostles and disciples had a mandate of preaching the Gospel of the Kingdom. They had to respect the choices of all those around them and prioritise their tasks so that instead of creating an uprising, and as such challenge the authority of the emperor and his viceroys, which would go against Roman law and order as well as Christ's message of hope and peace, and further endanger the Christian sect, they had to put their efforts into preaching salvation of souls, which was of a great eternal value. Besides, I'm sure thar everyone can agree that no other religion per say has done more to liberate slaves than Christianity. This was possible when Christianity dominated the civilized world. People will always make mistakes, go against the laws of God and kindness, and through negative associations and the adoption of bad practices (1 Corinthians 15:33) engage in things that contradict their value systems as European powers did by being involved in slavery during the age of mercantilism where they competed tooth and nail against each other to build up their countries' gold reserves and thus dominate, the love of money being the root of all evil (1 Timothy 6:10). That aside, what about us Africans that like everyone else love material things too much, but unlike a lot of people will sell that which is more valuable for things that we can learn to produce for ourselves? The bottom line: blacks have enslaved blacks and non-blacks alike, the same thing can be said about other nations and civilizations. Africans have been hostile towards themselves. Slavery could certainly have been prevented had we had a common belief system, language, and value system. A common belief system would have been more attainable and effective than the language aspect although I doubt such would have been enough to erase the wickedness entrenched in our various cultures which seem still to be alive even today. Think about it, you can't give that which you don't have. Imagine the treachery and stupidy, how can a mere umbrella be worth or come close in value to forty persons for goodness sake? Those persons could have been employed on African plantations or in industries on the continent instead. Were our ancestors that stupid, why didn't they think, better still why didn't they just ask the right questions like how can we produce commodities like mirrors, umbrellas, etc instead of giving away much for little? What is certain is that they were just plain wicked and this can be seen in the fact that some of the leaders did not want slavery to end as they had a lot to gain from it but nothing to show for it. I can't wait for Africans themselves, i.e. the descendants of the leaders of old, to apologise heartily to the descendants of slaves for all the trauma caused, a lot of which is still at play in many people's lives today, we are very much to blame for all their sufferings. Reparations don't come close to atoning for man's inhumanity towards man. Forgiveness from the heart from all sides will help us all heal and move forward as the entire human race has suffered and continues to do so. Which brings me to my final point, thank God for Christianity, for Jesus Christ is the way, the truth, and the life. He alone is true civilization and justice. It was after all the Christians who fought for the abolition of slavery and the dissolution of other terrible practices. Only good can overcome evil! Take care and God bless you.
@@goingintoalltheworld There are at least seven passages in the Bible where God is depicted as directly permitting or endorsing slavery. Two of these are in the Law of Moses: God permitted the Israelites to take slaves from conquered peoples permanently, and the Israelites could sell themselves into slavery temporarily to pay off debts (Exod 21:2-11; Lev 25:44-46). The other five passages are in the New Testament, where slavery as a social institution is endorsed and slaves are called to obey their masters “in everything” (Eph 6:5-9; Col 3:22-4:1; 1 Tim 6:1-2; Tit 2:9-10; 1 Pet 2:18-20). But slavery is viewed positively in Scripture well beyond these commands. Owning slaves was seen as a sign of God’s blessing (Gen 12:16; 24:35; Isa 14:1-2), and there are literally dozens of passages in the Bible that speak of slavery in passing, without comment. Slavery was simply part of life, and most people saw it as just the way things always were, even the divinely ordained order of things. And yes, in case there is any doubt, this was real slavery: “the slave is the owner’s property” (Exod 21:21). Both Old and New Testaments called for better treatment of slaves than many of the peoples around them, and the Law of Moses in particular called for better treatment of fellow Israelites as slaves. But slaves could be beaten (Exod 21:20-21; 1 Pet 2:18-20), and slaves could be taken as concubines (Gen 16:3-4; Exod 21:8-11) or even raped without serious consequence (Lev 19:20-22). These passages are all pretty straightforward. One could even say that the Bible is clear on this: the institution of slavery is permitted by God, endorsed by God, and owning slaves can even be a sign of God’s blessing. This has in fact been the Christian view through history: it’s only in the last 150-200 years that the tide of Christian opinion has shifted on slavery.
As i said before, we live in a fallen world. God has given each of us a free will. There is a difference between the permissive and perfect will of God. This is where so many people get things wrong and falsely attribute terrible characteristics to God that are not at ALL part of His nature, the book of Job presents a wonderful example of how learned and spiritual men were very misguided when it came to deciphering the nature of God, and for which God confronted them. Another example, you will recall in Scripture when the Israelites wanted a king in order to be like the 'other' nations, that although it was not the right time according to God's callender for them to have one, nevertheless, God still had to yield to their demands. In Ezekiel there is a warning regarding praying with idols in your heart. In the same manner and refering back to our topic, that Abraham had servants and slaves does not mean that God instituted suffering in the first place. This is all as a consequence of the fall of Adam and Eve. E What's more, even the black (or whatever) Pharaoh at the time of Abraham had slaves. This was something commonly practiced and justified in those days as it is now. Humans always make excuses for their sins, deflecting blame or justifying our actions. Even in your own culture men were deemed prosperous based on the number of wives, children, servants, livestock and other possessions they had. It was permitted for a wife like Sarah to give their concubine to her husband Abraham if they could not have a child; Rachael and even Leah engaged in this destructive act due to the competition that polygamy brings, did God stop them? No. Did He interfer as such? God never told them to stop what they were doing, it was all part of their culture, it was all they knew. Besides they didn't even bother to ask God how he would fulfill His promises of increase to them, they like everyone of us have taken matters into our own hands and have borne and continue to bear the consequences! Even now Christians are influenced by the cultures they hail from, some even more so than the teachings of Christ. God has given us free will but you will definitely bear the consequences of your actions. You can go and harm somebody on the street but know that if that person is innocent and even if you get away with your crimes your children will suffer in time. That is where a lot of us and our nations find ourselves. Abrahams descendants were subjected to slavery due to his act regarding being dishonest to Pharaoh and then keeping the gifts that Pharaoh gave him for his wife. How many of us are going through trails and tribulations for something we or our forebears have done? Which is why this concept of repentance qualified David as a man after God's own heart. David said that (I paraphrase for now but will include the scriptural references later) 'sacrifices and burnt offerings you did not require'. God wants a pure heart, a humble and contrite spirit, one that accepts when He corrects and reprimands us, unlike the heart of Pharaoh who refused to let Israel go when the end of their suffering had come, and King Saul who was a reprobate. For what Western governments and their people are doing by repenting (even though I feel it is largely due to external pressure, politics and the media, aka 'white guilt') for their part in enslaving others they will reap God's blessings and will progress better than we in Africa who always like to play blame game and victims whilst lying and covering our sins.
There is a passage in the Bible (Proverbs 24) that says that we ought not to laugh when God is punishing our enemies otherwise God will see and will be offended at us and withdraw from afflicting them--not that one wants them to be punished as it's my wish that everyone repent, forgive eachother and obtain mercy and blessings from God. That slavery was widely practiced is indisputable, however it was only accepted by God insofar as it was used as a tool to punish His people when they sinned/rebelled as well as their enemies who were already in sin especially when they encroached on His land and/or provoked his people. Even with that slavery had its deadline. God tempers His judgement with mercy. God never invented slavery nor did He invent murder, adultery, polygamy and other vices. These and other vices are as a result of the curse. To buttress my point with an example, God's perfect plan was for Abraham to seek him regarding the mother of the child of promise and then to trust Him that Sarah, his wife would give birth to the heir. Abraham, who knew God better than his wife and could have asked key questions, succumbed to the flesh by listening to his wife and had a child with Hagar. This was not God's plan, had it been then the next time He spoke with Abraham He might have said something other than 'be HOLY like I the Lord am HOLY'. Had this been God's plan then Hagar and Ishmael wouldn't have been ordered to leave, God backing Sarah who had initially brought about the matter. Mind you, the man was called a friend of God but regardless fell into sins like lying and giving his wife to different leaders on multiple occasions, were any of those acts right even if he was afraid that he would be killed, according to God's holy standards? Another thing, thanks for sharing the scriptural reference but I dare say that God used the law to address and repress the rebellious nature of His people. I mean at several points He wanted to destroy them. The law was hard on certain aspects but lenient on widely accepted cultural norms like polygamy and slavery which have led many to believe that God 'encouraged' these kinds of things. Sarah, Rachael and Leah facilitated these traditions, they forced theit men to take concubines. That God instructs a man who has mutliple wives, but favours his second son from his second wife, to give the firstborn son of the woman that isn't his favourite wife his due inheritance of the double portion; and that God confronted David when he committed adultery with Bathsheba with something along the lines of 'had the houses and wives of your neighbour not been enough for you then I would have given you such and such....' do3s not mean that God encouraged polygamy asany African traditionalists would have us believe. The consequences for greed and cruelty will always manifest in broken homes, misery, etc. David, the man after God's heart could not pit his own house in order and neither could Jacob. The law dealt with the terrible sitiation the people were in and tried to bring some kind of order out of disorder. After all, the proof is in the pudding, that these practices were a part of the people's culture did not stop them from suffering greatly because of them, e.g. Gideon's seventy sons from multiple women were all killed by Abimelech their brother who went on to wage wars and was in turn killed by a woman, polygamy (which in David's case must have been due to a lust and rejection issue) coupled with his being in the wrong place at the wrong time led to his commiting adultery, killing the woman's husband, losing his infant son, being disgraced (some people will argue that Kings were known to do such things but it was not right according to God's perfect standards which go beyond the law of Moses), along with the other consequences that followed. Even Solomon (Jedidiah) fell big time due to his multiple foreign wives---he was even worse than his father who had mainly Israelite wives but atill fell short. Now why don't the traditionalists preach the consequences of polygamy and slavery, rather they are quick to say that because God did not condemn David or Solomon directly he was okay with polygamy or any other vice (the law instructed kings not to multiple wives and other possessions to themselves yet people always disobey). People pick and choice, cherry pick, until they get hurt, until your children rebel, your wives scheme against you or you lose everything. In the same way, slavery is better ignored or uncondemned when you are the slave owner and not the slave, when you possess and are not possessed, until God through His servants tell you to abolish it and then if you're like Pharaoh you begin to question to authority of God or try to find passages in the Bible or dig into your people's practices to justify it.
No reasonable modern person will deny that slavery is barbaric and inhumane, but we must also realize that slavery was a worldwide habit at the time. In the Netherlands, the common people were often serfs of the nobility. I'm afraid that today's sorry culture leads to a revenue model for a few smart guys and misses the mark. has a counterproductive effect on a multicultural society.
Now we wait till Senegal abolishes slavery, ( they still have slavery), and till the kings of Ghana also apologise for selling the slaves to the Dutch.
@otto197 Ik heb geen schuld aan de fouten van mijn voorouders. Dat waren hele andere tijden. We bought most slaves from African warlords....let them first complain there.
Thank you, this must have been difficult for you. I was aware of the slave trade taking place in Africa, and about all of the rest of the world as well. Didn't know any specifics about Nigeria. Fortunately more people are educating the world about the history of slavery these days. We are fortunate to live in an age where most people think slavery to be a bad practice. Despite that, there are still a lot of slaves in our times. Human trafficking is still very much alive. I wish people would pay more attention to this, instead of playing the victim role and asking for reparations. We could all claim a victim role for something our ancestors have experienced, but what is the point.
i dont think racism is originating from slavery. it is something that is as old as humanity and the earliest tribal societies. every race and every culture has people that think in some kind of wicked racial hierarchy. also every race has suffered from slavery and been the slaver. it should be humanity apologizing to humanity, which would be an idiocy. in indonesia, where my roots are, slavery was already a thing before the europeans came. as before the dutch, it were the arabs that "colonized" the islands. even before the rise of islam. which is evident in the many indonesian sultanates that had their own system of slavery. every race on this planet has been enslaved and enslaved. it is an overall human wrongdoing, not a racial one.... it is actual keeping that same mechanic valid that those people detest....by pinning the guilt to a single race. nowadays some people even see my existence as a product of suppression and slavery "oh your forefathers raped some indonesian woman, hence you are here". while my great great grandfather married my indigenous great great grandmother for the same reasons as any other husband and wife. because they felt love and wanted to marry each other, not conceiving children as owner that raped a slave!! but as that doesn't fit the narrative to these angry people, so it is shoved away as anecdotal and not representing the "truth". the apologies will never still their hunger for validity, as it is not the real problem. the problem with many people is not taking responsibility for their own life. by blaming systems centuries ago for current hardship you think you do not deserve. which is easier than reflecting upon themselves i guess.
I am Nigerian too I don't like when the discourse around slaves is to paint the concept of slavery as only something that happens to black skinned people. It removes all nuance. This is why i so much appreciate this video.
Greetings and thanks for the video Beloved Sister and ..i truly appreciate your intentions and motivation for making this video....I want draw your attention to the fact, that half of world history remains to be told. World history is African history.... 1492, 1492, 1492.. when the African Moorish Empire ceased to exist in ANDALUSIA , modern day Spain and Portugal..... . I would like you look at the Papal Edict.." the PAPAL BULLS " Fast forward :; without denying the facts , that afrcans were stolen,sold or trafficked to the AMERICAS, i would like to point out that , the Original Inhabitants, people of the Americas were and are still Africans, including the so called " INDIANS ".. WOULDN'T YOU BELIEVE, IF YOU ARE TOLD,THAT ALL THE ROYAL HOUSES IN EUROPE, WITHOUT EXCEPTION WAS AND REMAINS AFRICAN ...??? DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH, SISTER.. for More facts, please check the MOORISH HISTORY OF EUROPE ( imagess, texts, Architecture etc). See : Dr. Clyde Winters Ivan Van Settima.❤
The idea that the Europeans started slavery because they saw slavery in Africa is false. The Europeans wanted slaves for labor in the Americas and slavery in Africa was not as brutal as slavery in the Americas. I do not agree with blaming Europeans for slavery, but people should not downplay the role of the Europeans in slavery by blaming Africans for slavery.
Wow. Really impressed by your video. Very educational to learn about the Nigerian history as well. Although I 100% agree that racism , slavery and specially the trade in other human beings is despicable, there is a lot of perspective and context. Me, as an individual, don't "see" color and don't accept that others do under any circumstance. Let me state that upfront. First, it was the Catholic church that declared that people with a dark skin (mostly in Africa) were assumed to be non-human and even animals and could be treated as such. That was the start of the slave trade and the religious justification for this atrocious part of Europe's history and allowed for European traders to make money out of buying and selling other human beings. Second, my family of a white Dutchman decent did not participate, not agree or made any money out of the slave trade. We weren't asked either or even aware of it. Till a century ago, my ancestors couldn't read or write and didn't even know what existed out of their small community's circle. Moreover (and more important), my ancestors didn't either. If not sailors or soldiers to protect the traders and royalty's interests, they were poor farmers that were maybe not slaves as per definition but when you have to "pacht" (=lease) a piece of land to farm and pay huge taxes and instalments for that land, creating unlivable conditions. Often, at the end of the year, they had to sell their live stock to have enough money to make it through the winter where the land in the cold weather could not produce to have continue to pay the enforced heavily taxes, waiting for the day they could harvest again. Besides the fact that they had to work from sun up till sun down, they made it through the winter only by eating "hard" veggies and spare parts of the animals they had to slaughter (usually fat), living in a room with 5-6 children, paying taxes even for the water they used. As a result, on average, they exhausted their bodies at a young age (and all kind of heart and organ failure), leading to death and malnutrition cause for a lot of deceases and child death. Their life was unhuman as well in our modern perspective. Where is the national excuse for that mister King? Both the Church and the land owners/traders were filthy rich and most considered royalty or new royalty (new rich). Coincidently, those same people also made money from the slave trade while my ancestors lived in unhuman conditions. It is sad and appalling that now the same people that apologize for this dark page in history, makes apologies in my name, or my ancestors name, just because we had white skin. Although you cannot compare the 2 (at least my ancestors had some freedom), the common (wo)man were not treated any better in Europe. Often when they try to speak up (or even talk back), they were thrown in dungeons, shot, hanged or pronounced to be a witch, among many other ways to get rid of a poor man's opinion. Now that same royalty, represented by the Dutch King, that made fortunes out of slavery as well, left or right, and were the ones that enabled this for it even to exist, come and apologize in my (ancestors) name, just because we got white skin in common, completely ignoring the historical facts and actual truth and their own leading role. That is a severe case of whitewashing reality and is racism by itself. Extra sad that most European royalty are all related to each other and often are nephews and nieces, making sure the fortunes, land ownership stay in that small circle. The same King, who is a member of one of the richest families in the world still and continue to be fully reimbursed financially by Dutch society where all they do is free and paid for, trying to distance themselves from THEIR ugly past, not mine or my family, using my color of skin as an excuse just because we have white skin in common. If there should be any repayment or excuses, the people that made money out of it (and are often still rich till date), and don't forget the Catholic church for their role, should rise up and not cheaply hide behind the whole society as such. It is embarrassing!
Slavery was never about the color of your skin but the enabling to humiliate and "own" other human beings by the wealthy and powerful. You see that all though history and it still ongoing.
Good video, nice to also shed light on the slavery trade history of Nigeria. But please before making such a video regarding the Dutch history of slave trade and colonization, also educate yourself on the history of the people that were made slaves by the Dutch regarding the Caribbean islands, Suriname, Indonesia, South Africa and all the other places the Dutch went. Yes the African forefathers may not be as excusable, that does not make what the Dutch and Europeans done more excusable. The history of Dutch slave trade has similarities but is also unique and has differences at every country. I'm from the Caribbean island of Curacao myself. There are big differences in slave trade/colonization in Africa and the life of the people who were made slaves in the Caribbean. There already is a lot of research and still being done till this day of the people who were made slaves in the Caribbean, Suriname etc., also of the effects till this day. When you go to the Caribbean islands for example you see how the effects are visible in all parts of life till this day. Visit the islands, Suriname or even talk to knowledgeable descendants in the Netherlands to gain more perspectives and knowledge.
I'm from the south (limburg) and were once prosecuted by the north. The slave traders were the north and southern holland and zeeland. Limburg had nothing to do with slavery.i think the king can apologise for himself and and his family who also left the dutch people in ww2.
I'm Dutch and have lived in the Netherlands all my life. What really has my mind spinning, is how reluctant teachers in schools are to properly teach about this part of history.
I'd like to think I was lucky enough to have had teachers who didn't shy away from difficult subjects. In my town (somewhere in the southeast of the Netherlands), we thoroughly discussed slavery and the tragedies of past big wars. At the age of 10-12 I was taught and confronted with this.
It stuck. It was very impressive. Hard to imagine it was all once reality.
I can hardly imagine someone not knowing the truth behind all that has happened. What was going on, on the other side of slave trade and the Holocaust too.
The story is often told far too close minded. There's no single point of truth in all of this.
What we perceive as true, isn't what the other side perceives as true. If you don't have access to the entire story, you're not blind or ignorant, you simply don't know. Which hardens conversations.
I hope young children will get taught the entire story more and more. Yes, it's impressive, but starting age 10, it'll sink in. You'll have that knowledge for the rest of your life. And I believe it'll make for better adults.
You can buy slaves TODAY in Afrika. Why not work on that? The past is the past. The whole world had slaves in the past. And it originated in Afrika. They enslaved white people for 800 years. The trans atlantic slave trade was (only) 200 years. Please excusses and reparations for the white slavery.
Beautifully written, devislmaiden.
The keti koti festival is for when the slaves in Suriname where set free by the dutch. Keti koti means chain cutting is the Suriname language. It's a Suriname festival that is also being held in the Netherlands.
True 🫶
Goed zo Josephine, you are not afraid of facts. This is your best video so far. Honest and open minded, even though the facts are so disturbing and possibly confronting. Well said!
As a middle-aged white male, i've never felt I had the right to talk about this subject. You have been amazingly honest and frank. I think the King has done the right thing. I am also of your opinion about reparations, how could you possibly give money to people to compensate for the horrors their ancestors experienced. I am pretty sure that most Black Americans don't want to be offered a ticket back to Africa, all expenses paid. So the only thing to be done is exactly what you are advocating - educate, teach, inform, talk about it as much as you can so that the racism and discrimination which still exist can be overcome. I am pleased that all the comments below are positive as I was sure there would be a kneejerk reaction from some people who would be shocked at what you have to say and criticize you. So as well as your honesty, thank you for your bravery.
Very nuanced and not polarised. A beautiful balanced take based on reality and real life
That slavery and slavetrade was inhumane we don't need to dispute. But I agree with you that we should not always see it as something exclusively between Europeans (always culprits) and Africans (always victims). The reality was far more complex. A lot of Dutch people feel therefore a bit uneasy with the present wave of demands for excuses and compensation by the supposed ascendants of the culprits to the supposed ascendants of the victims.
Exactly my point. It’s not as straightforward as it sounds and many people do not want to acknowledge the truth… slavery occurred in almost every facet of the world at that time. It was inhumane and barbaric but so were the practices that occurred at that time. An example was in my tribe, new born twins were killed because according to the leaders they were a curse from the gods (imagine for one moment the pain mothers had to endure) . Anyway I hope we all learn from this and find a way to move on 🥹
@@josphineogugua "The past is a strange country, they do things differently there".
@@josphineoguguaI wish some Americans where like you and educated themselves about the truth it would solve racism once and for all
When I wrote these first two comments, I hadn't seen the whole video yet. It is very sad to know that to this day, we Africans still do not know even half of what happened and still happens on the African continent. But thank God, little by little the truth is reaching people's eyes....
Same, I wasn’t aware about this part of the history. Thanks
Thank you for enlightening us about the slave trade going on in Africa, black people using other black people as slaves, unbelievable!!
I also like to wish you a happy birthday for today...
Europeans also sold other Europeans into slavery on a massive scale. Venice got rich mainly by selling Slavic slaves to the byzantines in North Africa. Prague was once a huge slave market selling slaves to the Venetians.
Walking at the Keti Koti festival I noticed a familiar smile in the crowd, but later I realised it was you.
Oh wow. Hope you enjoyed the festival? 🤗
@@josphineogugua For me it felt like the Kwaku-festival. A lot of music and food - but I felt less of the original vibe and message of Keti Koti as I experienced in the previous editions in the Oosterpark.
I have never owned a slave and i could not find anyone in my family who owned slaves in the past.
No one asked you.
@@mazcid177 Who cares?
Its weird to see how people say how many school didn't properly teach this stuff. All the schools I went to had special lessons (not classes) pertaining Slavery in economical and humanitary terms. in my second to last school in The Hague we were taught about the first slave ships (dutch were the first btw), djahomi and the African desporia resulting from it. In humanitary terms we had lessons about how slavery worked, (not in great detail mind you) liberation and keti koti and the evils of slavery. We also had occasional video lesson I vaguely remember about suriname, ghana and again Keti Koti. I remember in the Anne Frank School in The Hague we had a special lesson about both Bogota and paramaribo and how people lived there and the results of slavery.
This is of course not enough. but we learned enough to get interested in it. for me at least. Funny enough I never had African Suriname kid in class. We had two indian Surinamese girls in class (they were evil) Before that I had a Congolese kid and before that in 8th grade I think he was from Kenya but I was like 10 so I don't remember much about him. So yeah never had a african surinamese kid in class and their input would have helped.
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So yeah about this, when i heard it I was taken aback a bit. Generally in my mind I thought we already admissioned a apology decades ago and frankly it should have been done decades ago. Same with Indonesia.
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Lastly I suggest watching this documentary about people still understanding Ghanan in Suriname
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Wauw!! Hoe gruwelijk is het als mensen hun eigen volk gaan offeren (niet op een brandstapel maar je offert hun leven op) om zelf comfortabeler te leven.
Het is absoluut gruwelijk maar gebeurd helaas nu ook nog. Mensen die hun kind verkopen zodat ze wat geld hebben om te eten en we alleen maar mogen hopen dat deze kinderen niet in de kinderprostitutie belanden.
Om te huilen….eerlijk waar 😭😭😭
Aaaah! En wat denk je van Frankrijk. Die tot de dag van vandaag 14 Afrikaanse landen chanteert met moord en ze gedwongen zij n 85% van de welvaart van hun land in Frankrijk op de bank moeten storten. Waarom denk je dat Afrikanen vluchten uit die 14 landen?? Hoe moeten ze investeren in hun eigen economie, hun eigen infrastructure, school, ziekenhuizen en dergelijke als ze worden gechanteerd om hun welvaart af te staan.?? Daarom zijn ze op de middellandse zee ik overvolle bootjes. Maar daar hoor je niks van.
Hoe zou jij het vinden als Nederland 85% van hun welvaart aan Spanje moest afstaan na de 80 jarige oorlog? Hoe zou jij het vinden als Nederland 85% van hun welvaart miet afstaan aan feankrijk na de oorlog key napoleon?? Hoe zou jij het vinden als Nederland 85% van hun welvaart moest afstaan aan Duitsland na de 2e wereld oorlog??
@@rodniegsm1575 Het zijn vrij ernstige aantijgingen richting Frankrijk wat je daar schrijft, ik had er nooit van gehoord. Ik weet wel dat deze landen waar je het over hebt franc CFA valuta’s gebruiken die vroeger aan de Franse franc was gekoppeld en nu gekoppeld aan de euro. Ondanks de monetaire stabiliteit die dit systeem nu geeft voor deze landen, is ook kritiek over dit systeem omdat De CFA-Franc is immers gekoppeld aan de euro, en dit geeft ‘Europa’ een aanzienlijke economische en politieke invloed op CFA-landen. Er zijn nu acht landen die de franc CFA niet meer gebruiken maar de ECO maar wederom ondanks de nadelen hebben ze het ook gekoppeld aan de Euro.
I'm Dutch and I have nothing to apologize for. No one of this generations have had slaves and no one living now has been a slave. I' feel sorry for Suriname which was given independence in 1975 and six years later blew itself up. I wish them the best and hope it will get better.
You are no one so...no one asks you to appologize. Your king did! He matters, you don't.
@@mazcid177 i care for your opinion as much as you care about mine
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Thank you for adressing this delicate topic.
Proponants say that these excuses and reparations are necessary to repair the damaged relation between indigenous people on one hand and those originating from former colonies.
But then I wonder why focus only on the transatlantic slave-trade and not the arab slavetrade in East-Africa, the ottoman slavetrade and the white people who were enslaved by the Moors (that is what 'Zwarte Piet' refers to) and had to row in their ships.
The Gnawa in Marrakesh (Morocco) originally came from Sudan. Why so many pictures of ships packed with slaves and none of how these people were 'shipped' thousands of kilometers through the desert?
I suspect that the reason for this is just plain greed and in any case not a good way to repair the mutual understanding!
Great video!
These excuses where very important for the descendants of the enslaved. As a recognition of what their ancestors endured. The trade was just the start of an exploitation that went on for generations. We as Dutch have the obligation to fully accept them as equals and recognize the tremendous contributions they have made to the wealth and beauty of this nation. I think we’re making progress to get in terms with the past and this is a part of it.
Learn about history. You are missing 99% off it.
People off all locations have been enslaved..should their defendants also start demanding reparations? And from who?
I appreciate the very nuanced view you have. As someone who knows the history, and how "the whites" didn't just snatch up people, knowing these people were sold off by neighbouring tribes, it feels bad to see the people who bought the slaves as guilty. These people were slaves, regardless.
And it is and was all kinds of wrong, but it was also a product of the time.
I don't believe reparations are in order, not if Africans don't start paying reparations amongst themselves.
Never bow.
But I’m on your side girl.
Top video. Thanks
I don’t know.
My family never in to slavery love.
His family was.
In Africa and the Middle East at least, it is still happening today. In fact, white people were the first in the history of the world to abolish and actively combat slavery. And as for victims, the word slave comes from the Slavs (Eastern European white people) who were enslaved by the millions by the Muslim Turks and later the Ottoman empire. Generally I like to let people learn from history to avoid making the same mistakes. But I do not give, nor ask for apologies from the generations coming after the events. I don't even ask for apologies from Germany anymore. Nobody in Germany today is guilty of the genocidal behavior they showed us in the Netherlands. Every generation must be able to start with a clean sheet and learn about what NOT to do anymore.
Haiti was the first to ban slavery after gaining independence of the British in 1793 , before the Europeans did.
@@strawberry-jq9fu Europeans did it in the late byzutine era around the year 1000 and then we started doing it to africans later. Slavs are Roman Slaves who were freed after the empire fell / moved to the east, its literally where the name came from and not from the ottomans or turks @Ronald .
@@strawberry-jq9fuHaiti was the first the abolish the African Atlantic slave trade one of many slave trades ever
The truth is that many Afro-Asian ethnicities are today on the African continent... but one day they left the Asian continent during 1400 years of Arab slavery and came to the African continent... and when they arrived they did not arrive as friends of the African. .. be careful with the word Europeans, because before they assaulted the African continent, the European continent had already been assaulted... that's right... the true Europeans were also colonized...
I like your videos!
Nice video Zoba.. I wish more people make such videos that sheds light into the history of slavery from the all perspective. Although I'm not a big fan of this topic and I still feel Europeans really did us dirty (kai!! Imagine, one umbrella = 40 human beings) but I think its time for everyone to move on from being the victims. If you look at this topic of slavery very very well, it all went back into the biblical times. The God of the bible many people serve today accepted slavery. Jesus Christ himself made some sayings how a slave should be obedient to his master. (Sentitive subject but true)
So my sister you really tried in sheding some light into this matter. Keep it up sis!
That slavery has been part and parcel of the human existence doesn't mean that the God of the Bible accepted it. The God of the Bible gave humans a free will, which means that we are free to decide for ourselves, with the God of the Bible being principled enough to respects our choices.
Since the fall humans have always been inclined to sin and transgress. Humans don't learn from history either, we are inclined to seek or own good at the expense of the common good, and thus act irrationally especially when we are not at the receiving end of woes. When were are victims we kick and scream but give the victim a chance and he/she will become worse than the oppressor.
The God of the Bible prophesied about Christ, which Jesus Christ himself acknowledged, that Christ came to set the captives free (Isaiah 61:1, Lake 4:18). This aspect of the goodness of God is demonstrated in God using Moses as an instrument in the liberation of the children of Israel from 400 plus years of slavery, in fulfillment of the promise which He made to Abraham (Genesis 15:13, Exodus 4:22)---the reason(s) for their being subjected to slavery I won't dwell on for the sake of time.
As for your claim that Christ instructed slaves to obey their masters, correction: this was rather a quote from Paul in his epistles (letters) to the one of the churches (Ephesians 6:5-9). Please get your facts straight. The God of the Bible WILL not impose His ways on anyone EXCEPT you are in a pact or covenant with Him, like the children of Israel were, where their fathers and posterity went into such covenants aware of the conditions that they entailed, and in search of the goodness and providence of God. God is not lawless, on the contrary He commits Himself to the laws He has set in place(Psalm 138:2). Even in going into such covenants people still repeatedly transgressed by failing to meet their side of the bargain as we read many a times in the Bible---That is human nature for you, after all as we all know that no one is perfect except God! A definite and indisputable quote by Christ describing the loving, merciful and kind nature of God can be found in Matthew 5:43-45. As I said before, God gave humans a free will, we can decide to do good or evil, serve Him or not, but whatever we choose to do we and our descendants WILL bear the consequences. This fact has been proven time without number.
In the Classical period when Jesus and His contemporaries walked the earth there were slaves and masters of varied nationalities, colours, creeds, etc. The apostles and disciples had a mandate of preaching the Gospel of the Kingdom. They had to respect the choices of all those around them and prioritise their tasks so that instead of creating an uprising, and as such challenge the authority of the emperor and his viceroys, which would go against Roman law and order as well as Christ's message of hope and peace, and further endanger the Christian sect, they had to put their efforts into preaching salvation of souls, which was of a great eternal value. Besides, I'm sure thar everyone can agree that no other religion per say has done more to liberate slaves than Christianity. This was possible when Christianity dominated the civilized world. People will always make mistakes, go against the laws of God and kindness, and through negative associations and the adoption of bad practices (1 Corinthians 15:33) engage in things that contradict their value systems as European powers did by being involved in slavery during the age of mercantilism where they competed tooth and nail against each other to build up their countries' gold reserves and thus dominate, the love of money being the root of all evil (1 Timothy 6:10). That aside, what about us Africans that like everyone else love material things too much, but unlike a lot of people will sell that which is more valuable for things that we can learn to produce for ourselves? The bottom line: blacks have enslaved blacks and non-blacks alike, the same thing can be said about other nations and civilizations.
Africans have been hostile towards themselves. Slavery could certainly have been prevented had we had a common belief system, language, and value system. A common belief system would have been more attainable and effective than the language aspect although I doubt such would have been enough to erase the wickedness entrenched in our various cultures which seem still to be alive even today. Think about it, you can't give that which you don't have. Imagine the treachery and stupidy, how can a mere umbrella be worth or come close in value to forty persons for goodness sake? Those persons could have been employed on African plantations or in industries on the continent instead. Were our ancestors that stupid, why didn't they think, better still why didn't they just ask the right questions like how can we produce commodities like mirrors, umbrellas, etc instead of giving away much for little? What is certain is that they were just plain wicked and this can be seen in the fact that some of the leaders did not want slavery to end as they had a lot to gain from it but nothing to show for it.
I can't wait for Africans themselves, i.e. the descendants of the leaders of old, to apologise heartily to the descendants of slaves for all the trauma caused, a lot of which is still at play in many people's lives today, we are very much to blame for all their sufferings. Reparations don't come close to atoning for man's inhumanity towards man. Forgiveness from the heart from all sides will help us all heal and move forward as the entire human race has suffered and continues to do so. Which brings me to my final point, thank God for Christianity, for Jesus Christ is the way, the truth, and the life. He alone is true civilization and justice. It was after all the Christians who fought for the abolition of slavery and the dissolution of other terrible practices. Only good can overcome evil!
Take care and God bless you.
1 Thessalonians 5:15!
@@goingintoalltheworld There are at least seven passages in the Bible where God is depicted as directly permitting or endorsing slavery. Two of these are in the Law of Moses: God permitted the Israelites to take slaves from conquered peoples permanently, and the Israelites could sell themselves into slavery temporarily to pay off debts (Exod 21:2-11; Lev 25:44-46). The other five passages are in the New Testament, where slavery as a social institution is endorsed and slaves are called to obey their masters “in everything” (Eph 6:5-9; Col 3:22-4:1; 1 Tim 6:1-2; Tit 2:9-10; 1 Pet 2:18-20).
But slavery is viewed positively in Scripture well beyond these commands. Owning slaves was seen as a sign of God’s blessing (Gen 12:16; 24:35; Isa 14:1-2), and there are literally dozens of passages in the Bible that speak of slavery in passing, without comment. Slavery was simply part of life, and most people saw it as just the way things always were, even the divinely ordained order of things.
And yes, in case there is any doubt, this was real slavery: “the slave is the owner’s property” (Exod 21:21). Both Old and New Testaments called for better treatment of slaves than many of the peoples around them, and the Law of Moses in particular called for better treatment of fellow Israelites as slaves. But slaves could be beaten (Exod 21:20-21; 1 Pet 2:18-20), and slaves could be taken as concubines (Gen 16:3-4; Exod 21:8-11) or even raped without serious consequence (Lev 19:20-22).
These passages are all pretty straightforward. One could even say that the Bible is clear on this: the institution of slavery is permitted by God, endorsed by God, and owning slaves can even be a sign of God’s blessing. This has in fact been the Christian view through history: it’s only in the last 150-200 years that the tide of Christian opinion has shifted on slavery.
As i said before, we live in a fallen world. God has given each of us a free will. There is a difference between the permissive and perfect will of God. This is where so many people get things wrong and falsely attribute terrible characteristics to God that are not at ALL part of His nature, the book of Job presents a wonderful example of how learned and spiritual men were very misguided when it came to deciphering the nature of God, and for which God confronted them.
Another example, you will recall in Scripture when the Israelites wanted a king in order to be like the 'other' nations, that although it was not the right time according to God's callender for them to have one, nevertheless, God still had to yield to their demands. In Ezekiel there is a warning regarding praying with idols in your heart. In the same manner and refering back to our topic, that Abraham had servants and slaves does not mean that God instituted suffering in the first place. This is all as a consequence of the fall of Adam and Eve. E
What's more, even the black (or whatever) Pharaoh at the time of Abraham had slaves. This was something commonly practiced and justified in those days as it is now. Humans always make excuses for their sins, deflecting blame or justifying our actions. Even in your own culture men were deemed prosperous based on the number of wives, children, servants, livestock and other possessions they had. It was permitted for a wife like Sarah to give their concubine to her husband Abraham if they could not have a child; Rachael and even Leah engaged in this destructive act due to the competition that polygamy brings, did God stop them? No. Did He interfer as such? God never told them to stop what they were doing, it was all part of their culture, it was all they knew. Besides they didn't even bother to ask God how he would fulfill His promises of increase to them, they like everyone of us have taken matters into our own hands and have borne and continue to bear the consequences! Even now Christians are influenced by the cultures they hail from, some even more so than the teachings of Christ. God has given us free will but you will definitely bear the consequences of your actions. You can go and harm somebody on the street but know that if that person is innocent and even if you get away with your crimes your children will suffer in time. That is where a lot of us and our nations find ourselves. Abrahams descendants were subjected to slavery due to his act regarding being dishonest to Pharaoh and then keeping the gifts that Pharaoh gave him for his wife. How many of us are going through trails and tribulations for something we or our forebears have done? Which is why this concept of repentance qualified David as a man after God's own heart. David said that (I paraphrase for now but will include the scriptural references later) 'sacrifices and burnt offerings you did not require'. God wants a pure heart, a humble and contrite spirit, one that accepts when He corrects and reprimands us, unlike the heart of Pharaoh who refused to let Israel go when the end of their suffering had come, and King Saul who was a reprobate. For what Western governments and their people are doing by repenting (even though I feel it is largely due to external pressure, politics and the media, aka 'white guilt') for their part in enslaving others they will reap God's blessings and will progress better than we in Africa who always like to play blame game and victims whilst lying and covering our sins.
There is a passage in the Bible (Proverbs 24) that says that we ought not to laugh when God is punishing our enemies otherwise God will see and will be offended at us and withdraw from afflicting them--not that one wants them to be punished as it's my wish that everyone repent, forgive eachother and obtain mercy and blessings from God.
That slavery was widely practiced is indisputable, however it was only accepted by God insofar as it was used as a tool to punish His people when they sinned/rebelled as well as their enemies who were already in sin especially when they encroached on His land and/or provoked his people. Even with that slavery had its deadline. God tempers His judgement with mercy. God never invented slavery nor did He invent murder, adultery, polygamy and other vices. These and other vices are as a result of the curse. To buttress my point with an example, God's perfect plan was for Abraham to seek him regarding the mother of the child of promise and then to trust Him that Sarah, his wife would give birth to the heir. Abraham, who knew God better than his wife and could have asked key questions, succumbed to the flesh by listening to his wife and had a child with Hagar. This was not God's plan, had it been then the next time He spoke with Abraham He might have said something other than 'be HOLY like I the Lord am HOLY'. Had this been God's plan then Hagar and Ishmael wouldn't have been ordered to leave, God backing Sarah who had initially brought about the matter. Mind you, the man was called a friend of God but regardless fell into sins like lying and giving his wife to different leaders on multiple occasions, were any of those acts right even if he was afraid that he would be killed, according to God's holy standards?
Another thing, thanks for sharing the scriptural reference but I dare say that God used the law to address and repress the rebellious nature of His people. I mean at several points He wanted to destroy them. The law was hard on certain aspects but lenient on widely accepted cultural norms like polygamy and slavery which have led many to believe that God 'encouraged' these kinds of things. Sarah, Rachael and Leah facilitated these traditions, they forced theit men to take concubines. That God instructs a man who has mutliple wives, but favours his second son from his second wife, to give the firstborn son of the woman that isn't his favourite wife his due inheritance of the double portion; and that God confronted David when he committed adultery with Bathsheba with something along the lines of 'had the houses and wives of your neighbour not been enough for you then I would have given you such and such....' do3s not mean that God encouraged polygamy asany African traditionalists would have us believe. The consequences for greed and cruelty will always manifest in broken homes, misery, etc. David, the man after God's heart could not pit his own house in order and neither could Jacob. The law dealt with the terrible sitiation the people were in and tried to bring some kind of order out of disorder. After all, the proof is in the pudding, that these practices were a part of the people's culture did not stop them from suffering greatly because of them, e.g. Gideon's seventy sons from multiple women were all killed by Abimelech their brother who went on to wage wars and was in turn killed by a woman, polygamy (which in David's case must have been due to a lust and rejection issue) coupled with his being in the wrong place at the wrong time led to his commiting adultery, killing the woman's husband, losing his infant son, being disgraced (some people will argue that Kings were known to do such things but it was not right according to God's perfect standards which go beyond the law of Moses), along with the other consequences that followed. Even Solomon (Jedidiah) fell big time due to his multiple foreign wives---he was even worse than his father who had mainly Israelite wives but atill fell short. Now why don't the traditionalists preach the consequences of polygamy and slavery, rather they are quick to say that because God did not condemn David or Solomon directly he was okay with polygamy or any other vice (the law instructed kings not to multiple wives and other possessions to themselves yet people always disobey). People pick and choice, cherry pick, until they get hurt, until your children rebel, your wives scheme against you or you lose everything. In the same way, slavery is better ignored or uncondemned when you are the slave owner and not the slave, when you possess and are not possessed, until God through His servants tell you to abolish it and then if you're like Pharaoh you begin to question to authority of God or try to find passages in the Bible or dig into your people's practices to justify it.
Africa people god help us
No reasonable modern person will deny that slavery is barbaric and inhumane, but we must also realize that slavery was a worldwide habit at the time. In the Netherlands, the common people were often serfs of the nobility. I'm afraid that today's sorry culture leads to a revenue model for a few smart guys and misses the mark. has a counterproductive effect on a multicultural society.
Exactly 👌🏾
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Now we wait till Senegal abolishes slavery, ( they still have slavery), and till the kings of Ghana also apologise for selling the slaves to the Dutch.
We can forgive but we can't forget
To forget you must first remember. You never were a slave...so what's in your memory?
@otto197 Ik heb geen schuld aan de fouten van mijn voorouders. Dat waren hele andere tijden. We bought most slaves from African warlords....let them first complain there.
Thank you, this must have been difficult for you. I was aware of the slave trade taking place in Africa, and about all of the rest of the world as well. Didn't know any specifics about Nigeria. Fortunately more people are educating the world about the history of slavery these days. We are fortunate to live in an age where most people think slavery to be a bad practice. Despite that, there are still a lot of slaves in our times. Human trafficking is still very much alive. I wish people would pay more attention to this, instead of playing the victim role and asking for reparations. We could all claim a victim role for something our ancestors have experienced, but what is the point.
i dont think racism is originating from slavery.
it is something that is as old as humanity and the earliest tribal societies.
every race and every culture has people that think in some kind of wicked racial hierarchy.
also every race has suffered from slavery and been the slaver.
it should be humanity apologizing to humanity, which would be an idiocy.
in indonesia, where my roots are, slavery was already a thing before the europeans came.
as before the dutch, it were the arabs that "colonized" the islands. even before the rise of islam.
which is evident in the many indonesian sultanates that had their own system of slavery.
every race on this planet has been enslaved and enslaved.
it is an overall human wrongdoing, not a racial one....
it is actual keeping that same mechanic valid that those people detest....by pinning the guilt to a single race.
nowadays some people even see my existence as a product of suppression and slavery "oh your forefathers raped some indonesian woman, hence you are here".
while my great great grandfather married my indigenous great great grandmother for the same reasons as any other husband and wife.
because they felt love and wanted to marry each other, not conceiving children as owner that raped a slave!!
but as that doesn't fit the narrative to these angry people, so it is shoved away as anecdotal and not representing the "truth".
the apologies will never still their hunger for validity, as it is not the real problem.
the problem with many people is not taking responsibility for their own life.
by blaming systems centuries ago for current hardship you think you do not deserve.
which is easier than reflecting upon themselves i guess.
I am Nigerian too I don't like when the discourse around slaves is to paint the concept of slavery as only something that happens to black skinned people. It removes all nuance. This is why i so much appreciate this video.
When is nigeria going to apologize for their part in the Atlantic slave trade?
Greetings and thanks for the video Beloved Sister and ..i truly appreciate your intentions and motivation for making this video....I want draw your attention to the fact, that half of world history remains to be told. World history is African history....
1492, 1492, 1492.. when the African Moorish Empire ceased to exist in ANDALUSIA , modern day Spain and Portugal.....
. I would like you look at the Papal Edict.." the PAPAL BULLS "
Fast forward :; without denying the facts , that afrcans were stolen,sold or trafficked to the AMERICAS, i would like to point out that , the Original Inhabitants, people of the Americas were and are still Africans, including the so called
" INDIANS ".. WOULDN'T YOU BELIEVE, IF YOU ARE TOLD,THAT ALL THE ROYAL HOUSES IN EUROPE, WITHOUT EXCEPTION WAS AND REMAINS AFRICAN ...??? DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH, SISTER..
for More facts, please check the MOORISH HISTORY OF EUROPE ( imagess, texts, Architecture etc). See : Dr. Clyde Winters
Ivan Van Settima.❤
The idea that the Europeans started slavery because they saw slavery in Africa is false. The Europeans wanted slaves for labor in the Americas and slavery in Africa was not as brutal as slavery in the Americas. I do not agree with blaming Europeans for slavery, but people should not downplay the role of the Europeans in slavery by blaming Africans for slavery.
Two parties can be participants of a crime. I’m not downplaying their role, I’m saying both participated.
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Wow. Really impressed by your video.
Very educational to learn about the Nigerian history as well.
Although I 100% agree that racism , slavery and specially the trade in other human beings is despicable, there is a lot of perspective and context. Me, as an individual, don't "see" color and don't accept that others do under any circumstance. Let me state that upfront.
First, it was the Catholic church that declared that people with a dark skin (mostly in Africa) were assumed to be non-human and even animals and could be treated as such. That was the start of the slave trade and the religious justification for this atrocious part of Europe's history and allowed for European traders to make money out of buying and selling other human beings.
Second, my family of a white Dutchman decent did not participate, not agree or made any money out of the slave trade. We weren't asked either or even aware of it. Till a century ago, my ancestors couldn't read or write and didn't even know what existed out of their small community's circle.
Moreover (and more important), my ancestors didn't either. If not sailors or soldiers to protect the traders and royalty's interests, they were poor farmers that were maybe not slaves as per definition but when you have to "pacht" (=lease) a piece of land to farm and pay huge taxes and instalments for that land, creating unlivable conditions. Often, at the end of the year, they had to sell their live stock to have enough money to make it through the winter where the land in the cold weather could not produce to have continue to pay the enforced heavily taxes, waiting for the day they could harvest again. Besides the fact that they had to work from sun up till sun down, they made it through the winter only by eating "hard" veggies and spare parts of the animals they had to slaughter (usually fat), living in a room with 5-6 children, paying taxes even for the water they used. As a result, on average, they exhausted their bodies at a young age (and all kind of heart and organ failure), leading to death and malnutrition cause for a lot of deceases and child death. Their life was unhuman as well in our modern perspective. Where is the national excuse for that mister King?
Both the Church and the land owners/traders were filthy rich and most considered royalty or new royalty (new rich). Coincidently, those same people also made money from the slave trade while my ancestors lived in unhuman conditions. It is sad and appalling that now the same people that apologize for this dark page in history, makes apologies in my name, or my ancestors name, just because we had white skin. Although you cannot compare the 2 (at least my ancestors had some freedom), the common (wo)man were not treated any better in Europe. Often when they try to speak up (or even talk back), they were thrown in dungeons, shot, hanged or pronounced to be a witch, among many other ways to get rid of a poor man's opinion.
Now that same royalty, represented by the Dutch King, that made fortunes out of slavery as well, left or right, and were the ones that enabled this for it even to exist, come and apologize in my (ancestors) name, just because we got white skin in common, completely ignoring the historical facts and actual truth and their own leading role. That is a severe case of whitewashing reality and is racism by itself. Extra sad that most European royalty are all related to each other and often are nephews and nieces, making sure the fortunes, land ownership stay in that small circle. The same King, who is a member of one of the richest families in the world still and continue to be fully reimbursed financially by Dutch society where all they do is free and paid for, trying to distance themselves from THEIR ugly past, not mine or my family, using my color of skin as an excuse just because we have white skin in common.
If there should be any repayment or excuses, the people that made money out of it (and are often still rich till date), and don't forget the Catholic church for their role, should rise up and not cheaply hide behind the whole society as such. It is embarrassing!
Slavery was never about the color of your skin but the enabling to humiliate and "own" other human beings by the wealthy and powerful.
You see that all though history and it still ongoing.
Good video, nice to also shed light on the slavery trade history of Nigeria. But please before making such a video regarding the Dutch history of slave trade and colonization, also educate yourself on the history of the people that were made slaves by the Dutch regarding the Caribbean islands, Suriname, Indonesia, South Africa and all the other places the Dutch went. Yes the African forefathers may not be as excusable, that does not make what the Dutch and Europeans done more excusable. The history of Dutch slave trade has similarities but is also unique and has differences at every country. I'm from the Caribbean island of Curacao myself. There are big differences in slave trade/colonization in Africa and the life of the people who were made slaves in the Caribbean. There already is a lot of research and still being done till this day of the people who were made slaves in the Caribbean, Suriname etc., also of the effects till this day. When you go to the Caribbean islands for example you see how the effects are visible in all parts of life till this day. Visit the islands, Suriname or even talk to knowledgeable descendants in the Netherlands to gain more perspectives and knowledge.
Nobody is saying one is more excusable than the other..the truth is that slavery is universal and its bad on whatever scale no matter how small
well...for a better integration :)
Not my king.
I'm from the south (limburg) and were once prosecuted by the north. The slave traders were the north and southern holland and zeeland. Limburg had nothing to do with slavery.i think the king can apologise for himself and and his family who also left the dutch people in ww2.
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