Ridley Scott Tells the REAL REASON Why Engineers Want to Kill Humans and Destroy Earth
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- Опубліковано 1 лип 2017
- Why Engineers wanted to Drop Black Goo on Earth? Why Engineers hate humanity?
When I saw Prometheus I was quite surprised that one of the Engineers, creators of life on Earth was so agressive to the human crew and proceded to launch a ship that would destroy humanity. Many people probably expected species of this advanced civilization to act more peacefully but this it not what happens. In this video I’m gonna talk about why engineers hate humans and want to kill them and it’s not because they got jealous of human hair. Although the movie does not explicitly answer theis question Ridely Scott actually explains the Engineer motives in a podcast with the Empire Magazine.
Podacast - www.empireonline.com/people/ri...
Before we get to the Scott’s explanation, I will briefly mention some other good theories that also sound plausible and can be even more logical than the director’s answers.
One theory suggests that there are two fractions of Engineers - creators who seeded Life on Earth and destroyes who think that any other live form other than Engineers is unethical and shouldn’t exist. That would explain why the ship used by creators at the begining of Prometheus is different from Juggernauts used by destroyers. It would also explain the difference in suits since creators don’t have these bio suit that seemingly merge the body. So just like humans they probably have different nations and group with distinct goals.
Another theory is that Engineers seed planets with life to experiment and develop weapons. Once a civilization achieves a certain level of technlogal advancement they would drop their bio weapon the black goo in this case to test how effective it is.
We know that Engineers not only seed Earth with life but also the people on Planet 4 were their creations as well. So Engineer could experiment with humanoid life forms to see which ones would develop faster.
A different theory suggests that the Engineer started to kill people as soon as he touched David. Maybe the Engineer realized that David is not a biological creation and considered this quote on quate life form disgusting, so he killed David first and proceded to the human crew. Or maybe Engineers thought they are the only ones who are entitled to create just like humans programmed later versions of androids such as Walter forbidding them to be creators.
These were a pretty good theories but now let’s talk about the Ridley Scott explanation which I think is really good and ties with the dialog scene when the Engineer wakes up.
When Weyland tries to talk to the Engineer and Shaw interputs him, he order his man hit her and shoot her if she tries to speak again. Although it is presented as the Engineer does not understand English, I think he realized that humans are violent and dangerous species so that for some reason Weyland is allowed to talk to him but not Elizabeth.
As Ridley said he sees Engineers as gardeners of space that would occasionaly visit an empty bowl and out of their god like generousity create life but they periodicaly visit planets they’ve seeded if they discover that their offspings have lost their way and proved to be a disapointment, they would wipe the planet clean. Pretty much like God who caused the great flood because the Earth was filled with violence, corruption and inequality. This is very similar to what was happening on Earth around 0 b c when the Engineers originaly planned to deastoy humans.
As we know from prometheus, the Engineer ship was about 2000 years old, so after observing that humanity have not developed the way the wanted , Ridley states that Engineers decided to send their missionary Jesus Christ as the last attempt to guide humans onto the right path. But we ended up crisufing him, so the Engineers made a finaly decision that life on Earth was a mistake and prepared to launch their ship.
That is also confirmed by what David does to people on the planet 4.He learned of the Engineer and then dropped the black goo booms to destroy a humanoid race.
The Engineer in prometheus wakes up and sees that people that they wanted to destroy 2000 years ago arrived to the distant planet. He realizes that humans are still violent and corrupt spiecies who are also capable of interstellar travel which makes them even more dangerous to other Engineer creations. It is no surprise that the Engineer kills the human crew and proceeds to destroy Earth.
According to Ridley, the Engineer plant to destroy humanity is still relevant today based on what is happening in the world right not including the pollution of environment, poverty and inequality in poor countries.
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The engineer saw the kardasians then deemed life on earth was a mistake and commenced to destroy the human race
@@formerfreak4943 it was just a joke.
@@formerfreak4943 oh didn't notice that.
Lmao 😂 legit
And also ticktock another disgrace
"😂"!
I always thought it would make a good tie-in with Predator. The Predator's species could be a previously seeded planet which went array, showing the Engineers the possible negative implications of their project to seed life throughout the universe. An Engineer ship dropping a payload of Xenomorphs onto the Predator's home planet would have made for such a much better AvP film.
He got mad when he touched david hair because he realised that even human robot has hair
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Engineers so MALD KEKW
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It's not hate. Like any lab rat can tell you. At the end of the experiment, destroy the sample. We're the sample.
Skip the crap and watch this
Sil from Species 1995 film the Engineers concept and inspiration which is an alien film with a race of humanoid Xenomorphs design by H.R. Giger .
The Engineer was visibly frustrated how badly humans came out to be. They clearly rock that catholic style “blasphemer!” hate
Not necessarily.
Jesus was an Engineer or part Engineer. He was a representative sent to judge Humanity and we killed him.
i suffered from insomnia for years, till i found this video and heard him talking. i fell asleep in an instant..
Then you should marry someone who slow talks, and your condition will be cured in the name of love 😜😜
“Fear no more brother dinosaur”
A quote by another superhero dinosaur looking identical to Dino from the Flintstones .
Sil from Species 1995 film the Engineers concept and inspiration which feature a race of humanoid Xenomorphs design by H.R. Giger .
Also the cyborg (unmasked version of him) from the 1992 sci fi film
Prototype X29A seems to have something in common with the Engineer outfit design .
Twat
That’s pretty funny though
Bro its 100% the hair. they can't stand our superior hair
Captain Picard would have handled that first contact much better for sure.
Bruh :)))))))))))
yoab germosen Idk but I think in a couple of thousand years humans are probably gonna loose all their hair aswell. Seems like that's how it goes in the state of evolution we're in now.
hahaha :)
WinDoSa ew
I love the idea of the engineers creating a lifeform that could represent a threat to themselves, the same way humans created David who might threaten their existence
David is obviously superior to human beings. Humans are not superior to engineers.
Obviously the Engineers hate humanity because we created the UA-cam comment section. That and light beer.
Gregory Scott 😂
Definitely the light beer thing...
I thought it was the OK Boomer video by that Bernie fangirl.
Makes more sense than any of the shit Ridley suggested.
Friends don't let friends drink Light beer
Theory: The engineers are just like modern day humans in terms of craving power, greed etc. and not at all god like. They use the black goo to hold onto power and control. However they also have their own ancient history, myths and religion. A group of engineer that practises the old ways and believe that the black goo had religious purpose begin populating planets according to there own scriptures. The ruling engineers discover this and rule it an unlawful act and so decide to undo life generated on these worlds. On hearing this the old way engineers sabotage the plan and use the black goo to destroy the invasion fleet seen running in the hologram and die in the process.
“ We’re like sugar, and they’re like salt, if their hair won’t grow it’s not our fault” ~ Sigourney Weaver~
I just finished reading the book.
In the book you have so much more explanations about everything.
The movie has too many characters and very little time, but it was a pleasure experience to be able to read the last movie's book.
Whats the name of this book? Author?
Man your background music is perfect for this
Yeah it’s fitting. Really relaxing lol
Movie theme of prometheus
@@ayhanbinici8749 nope, its called Atlantis by Audionaux
Hell yeah
@@ayhanbinici8749 no its not, its a track by Audionautix - Atlantis.
The surviving Engineer was awake 2000 years ago and probably witnessed the barbarity of humans of that time and then when he is awakened he is surprised, in an irritated manner, that he now finds the very same creatures standing before him squawking now achieving technological advances but still violent.
Or someone from their species sabotaged them to save humanity, like the myth of Prometheus.
Georgios Papadopoulos Funny, that your perspective is to 'save humanity', after the fact that approximately 2, 000 the humans may have murdered one of their peace emissaries, how would you react knowing that?
There is no such thing as a peaceful bearer of weapons of mass destruction like theirs. They didn't create us, they were trying to steal earth. David referred to their world as paradise because it had an affections and interest in Shaw and it didn't want of spoil her dream of finding answers, (maybe connected to religion) it knew of her dreams and the word it used to describe their planet was what her father told her about 'where mom went!' in her childhood. The engineers have reached their peak and they were suffering the fate of all empires. The beginning scene of prometheus maybe was an experiment to make the planet David destroyed habitable for them, but the sun of that solar system was old. Some stone heads in covenant resemble the deleted scene engineers in prometheus, maybe they were the ones who led them to the crusade of resurrecting their species form the dead end they were in.
^ Now, going into declaration rhetoric mode.
@@OZ88 jesus, this was edited? I'd hate to see this paragraph before editing. Wtf, its barely coherent.
just my theory:
The Engineers used to have their own AI Technology just like we do now long ago, but it turned against them and almost destroyed them, so they stuck with using only biological technology and genetic engineering (when they discovered/created the black goo)in order to keep their "humanity" in tact and went as far as creating a religious culture out of it in order to maintain this lifestyle choice. When the humans were created by a rouge group of Engineers as an experiment to create a species similar to what they once were, they saw them as a threat not only to the Engineers themselves, but to all Biological species. They feared that if the humans were to live long enough, they'd create their own AI Technology similar to what they once had, and not only that, but it would turn against them as well and become its own species, superior to the Engineers and the humans both (basically into Gods), and to be able to create life in its own image. It would be the best explanation to why the Engineer woken up from cryo sleep ripped off David's head and would also explain David's quest to create life like we saw in Covenant.
Never mind that anyway
Sil from Species 1995 film the Engineers concept and inspiration which feature a race of humanoid Xenomorphs design by H.R. Giger .
Also the cyborg (unmasked version of him) from the 1992 sci fi film
Prototype X29A seems to have something in common with the Engineer outfit design .
What a great observation. Do you see any environmental message to this movie?
I think you're on to something there! :)
That could explain why the waking engineer didn't hesitate to pull David's head from his shoulders.. that scene always surprised me when I first saw it - I was expecting the engineer to take a moment to observe in David what human's had technologically become capable of, instead he neutralizes him almost instinctively.
So Dune?
I think Ridley Scott is making a parallel between the engineers and the Anunakis, it would make sense: one military faction and another geneticist. The engineers we have seen so far may be the military faction and have not yet introduced us to the geneticists.
Scary!
Aha!
Well it's crystal clear where his LV426 comes from, why those stars in Zeti Reticuli. If you see the extra details from Prometheus then it shows you the map created by Betty Hill. It's the same map.
They (the Engineers) really are the Annunaki. They’re even tall like them. I actually got to see a ziggurat, while I was in Iraq, and the ‘sky beings’ are usually described as towering. And, their technologies were ‘magicks’ and a part of the being. I personally think the ‘Engineers’ seed and harvest life forms periodically, to perfect/modify soul matrices, and optimize the experience/perceptions of the life they seeded. Engineers/Annunaki are the seeding components, the xenomorphs and ‘predators’ are harvesters. I think there’s a great filter, or a ‘Mass Effect’ Reapers type organisms, that even the Engineers are trying to evolve or get past being made the whims of.
wow
We learn more about the pathology of Ridley Scott - not The engineers.
Well then have it your way ....
Sil from Species 1995 film the Engineers concept and inspiration which feature a race of humanoid Xenomorphs design by H.R. Giger .
Also the cyborg (unmasked version of him) from the 1992 sci fi film
Prototype X29A seems to have something in common with the Engineer outfit design ..... done ?
It was really an outer space Terminator!
The engineer was just cranky because he didn't have his coffee yet. Coffee makes everything better.
lol true
Christopher Lewis Lol it funny how coffee makes everything all the better doesn't it! Im the same- Im literally satans sporn when I wake for a new day everyone an everything is nothing to me wile Im on the mission to the coffee an then once I've had atlest half cup of my (Magical Key) black stuff Im all of a sudden transformed into Christs right hand cherub that just happens to love everything for some funky reason afterwards!
COFFEE it really is a magical substance, isn't it! Frankly I cant do without it..😁😅😂😂👍
What if it's not coffee but Black Goo? I always knew there is something wrong with coffee, now I know what! We are screwed!
lol, yeah 2000 years without coffee would have me in a rage too!
He thought there should be a coffee maker built in the android and got pissed off when realized there is none.
I had to play this at 1.5 times normal speed to not go insane.
Felix Staeps 😂
1.5x speed makes it normale
I stopped at 1:40: I cherish my sanity too much, sorry 😐
Good shout!!! Fuck me his voice is boring
I had to do the same. lol
The real reason why engineers want destroy earth: they saw Alien Covenant...
Or because :
Sil from Species 1995 film the Engineers concept and inspiration which feature a race of humanoid Xenomorphs design by H.R. Giger .
Also the cyborg (unmasked version of him) from the 1992 sci fi film
Prototype X29A seems to have something in common with the Engineer outfit design .
Yep and they find it Offensive.
Probably one of the greatest movies ever made. The degree of artistry by the entire team will probably never be matched again. Speaks volumes at the artistry of the team leader, Ridley Scott!
I feel the premise was very good but soooooo much unfulfilled potential
Ridley Scott always has these original and creative perspectives on biblical accounts. It's awesome
I want to know why Ridley Scott hates us so much
Careful or he might drop black goo on us!
daddy issues
Because humans fuck everything up, living or not living
Because he saw the AVP movies
Manek Iridius Alain covenant was good.
Hey man, I love your vids. The way you explain and the pace at which you explain it is perfect for me. You're english is so good too. Please keep it up with the content dude, you've got me thru some dark times.
I feel like in 20 years there is going to be videos of this movie predicting the future.
Ehhh it made sense why the engineer is aggressive in Prometheus. I don't know about you but a pack of creations of mine wake me up that I'm supposed to destroy which then wake me up from crysosleep after a few thousand years and a bunch of strangers are asking for eternal life calling themselves gods and one of them is beating up on a female who all the while was screaming half the time and crying out in pain. I'd say his actions were warranted to say the least.
Yeah...especially when you just woke up from a long sleep. People are demanding the meaning of life and you haven't had an coffee yet.
Well said. I thought the same thing. Women represent creation. And having respect for fellow man especially women would be important to Engineers. They created it. And in order to create more humans they left that task to men and women, but women would be the vessel.
Austin Truther Yes, I can't wait to see them in Awakening though. It'll be interesting.
Venom Ace
Really I'm not sure the Engineer had any respect for Shaw, or a human woman, even after he saw her get smacked around. She wasn't aggressive and just ran away. But he seemed like he was going to kill her, even before they trashed his ship.
Yup.
I think it's even simpler. They saw the threat that humanity posed to them. They made a mistake in creating something that has the spark of creativity, and could therefore replace them. The same theme plays out in Covenant, where David's ability to create, his potential for original thought, was something that was recognised as a danger to us and designed out of later generations of synthetics.
I wish they would make a movie with more of the engineers, it would have been a better movie had they had shown the next movie of them finding the engineers
I was expecting more of the interview with Ridley Scott. What happened?
hitchhiker42 me 2 😂
Well you know more about the Engineers concepts such as :
Sil from Species 1995 film the Engineers concept and inspiration which feature a race of humanoid Xenomorphs design by H.R. Giger .
Also the cyborg (unmasked version of him) from the 1992 sci fi film
Prototype X29A seems to have something in common with the Engineer outfit design .
And Scott reveals his misanthropic views
Someone once said “the matrix wasn’t a movie but a documentary” ….. or perhaps a warning. Makes me think the same way about the alien movies or Prometheus movies. Some also believe that we were created by aliens or God or Gods/Goddesses. Who knows.
Second thought, the engineer understood how advanced man was becoming by touching a silicon man he could not create with the means of his technology and could not understand its workings and felt angry for postponing our extermination due to the accident (which I think was deliberate from one of them who felt remorse). After some point they might have felt threatened by having us in their galaxy.
These aren't the only "Engineers" in the universe, but just one of many.
You, so far, in these comments are the only person to use advanced reasoning.
Hubble telescope has taken thousands of pictures of the universe. These pictures show millions of star filled galaxies.
Each galaxy billions of years old.
So, instead of 1 species "engineering" all species which came after, how about a consortium of beings.
These beings meet in space as they discover faster than light travel.
These differing beings realised that they were nonviolent beings.
This allowed them to survive long enough to create the tech it takes to travel dimensionally to other galaxies.
They decide to watch all species which send radio or other waves out into space. Those species which are deemed too violent are adjusted genetically.
When nothing changes a beings violent actions they aren't killed off. They'll do this themselves. They are only prevented from leaving their solar system, or planet if they are horrifically violent.
@@avidnongetit8710 I think there are multiple factions and ideologies about how to conduct themselves and some seed and maybe others think this is foolish and then decide to destroy the experiment. Just because their our ancient DNA ancestors doesn't make them benevolent. Also, they might have felt threatened by seeing our trajectory and that we might supersede them given time.
This is exactly what I walked away from the movie with, I never understood why people didn't understand Prometheus, it's clear is your listen and watch. Scott is a great story teller.
The language that was translated by David in the tomb already stated they were going to Dostoyevsky humanity.
That’s what Elizabeth Shaw was yelling at the engineer, to ask why. Nothing in the current conversation with David, Shaw, or Weyland even mattered. The engineers were going to erase humans
Creators be like "time to upgrade", destroyers say no, "factory reset that planet!".
I like the idea of different factions of engineers, could lead to some really cool story ideas in future movies.
Millenia long conflict between the two and with the "creators" sabotaging the "destroyers" weapons base on lv223 2000 years ago to protect us while leaving the star maps here to warn us of what they were doing. The conflict grew to the point their civilization has been mostly destroyed, giving a reason for why lv223 was forgotten and they hadn't returned to earth or how planet 4 was not yet destroyed. Or maybe befor the conflict ended planet 4 was made by one of the factions as either a replacement or alternative view on what earth was meant to be...
Thank You ! All these possible explanations really help to appreciate the memory of the movie !
I don't think they want to kill humans out of a sense of disappointment or morality I think it's due to survival. Engineers know how dangerous AI is to them. When they realize humans are drifting towards AI, they need to end it.
DJZ-This is true, but when the engineers decided to kill us off, we were still wearing sandals and wielding swords. We were nowhere near any kind of technological achievement. Personally I think the engineers saw the savagery in humanity and decided to end us before time passed and we gained technology.
OfficialDropFactory Ughhh, I'm pretty sure if that ship arrived at earth it would've gotten taken down fast. They crashed a ship into it to take it down, so imagine the air force getting involved..
Jose- What?
DJZ Of course its moral. They can defeat the ai.
DJZ wut
The reason why this alien dude got angry was because he did not know the secret recipe for Rogaine hair growth and because his subscription to Netflix Premium just got terminated.
To put it diplomatically, the narration is very comforting.
Dude, I'm brazilian and never studied English properly in my life. I have difficulty understanding by listening. So, I'm here to tell you, that your accent/pronunciation turns it easy for me to listen and understand. Thank you.
By the way: I have watched your videos about Prometheus/Alien and enjoing it too much. You're good!
Don’t forget to share the love ❤️
Sil from Species 1995 film the Engineers concept and inspiration which feature a race of humanoid Xenomorphs design by H.R. Giger .
Also the cyborg (unmasked version of him) from the 1992 sci fi film
Prototype X29A seems to have something in common with the Engineer outfit design .
You should make a video on why Ridley Scott hates Alien fans and why he destroyed the Alien franchise by making Alien Covenant.
No one gave him a Snickers when he woke up
I love your videos. Thank you!
"before we get to the answer provided by ridley himself let's go over all of the other garbage for four minutes" - then proceeds to not even show the podcast
So does this mean David just murdered a bunch of civilians? Or were those engineers that died the destroyers?
Dedoid's High Vis Vest- The people that David killed weren't the engineers. They were a creation of theirs, like us, except they didn't have technology. The actual engineers will return in Alien: Awakening.
OfficialDropFactory is there an official post of that anywhere? I've heard both ways, they are and they're not.
John Howarth
They where the engineers but there is 2 diffrente types of them. David did not kill them all off.
Thats what i have heard
John Howarth
Ridley already have confirmed that the people that david killed where the engineers.
DigitalKajiu- not really. and anyway, the first thing Ridley would do is tell the fans one thing so he can catch them off guard later. And besides that, the engineers had two factions: the cloaked creators and the armored militants. However, both factions are the same size (10 feet tall) and both have pearl white skin and completely black eyes. The people seen in Covenant are human-sized, with dusty pink-gray skin and human-like eyes. Also, those people had no technology of any kind, something the engineers are strong with. They clearly worshipped the engineers and are far less developed. They are not the actual engineers.
What i still don't understand is why didn't the engineers go back to earth in the last 2000 years. If the plot for Alien Awakening is that the engineers arrive to Planet 4 after David killed their creation there then It's more than obvious that the engineers on LV-223 weren't the only ones, so why didn't they approach humanity again?
Even during the Prometheus/Alien Covenant and later periods where humanity not only has traveled space for years but they even colonize planets, didn't they encounter engineers? Even in the movie Aliens the marines mention another alien race, so that means humanity not only has found other lifeforms but also equally intelligent life, so where are the engineers?
ChBgt909 They probably thought humanity was long gone already.
This is something that's been bothering me as well every since this pathetic "Alien Jesus" explanation came out. What perplexes me especially is that if the Engineers wanted us dead that badly, why weren't there other ships and crews set to come our way? If humanity was condemned to death by its creator, then why has over two millennia passed without any further effort on their part? And there comes more questions than I care to list that ultimately reflect on how poorly conceived and executed Ridley Scott's story is.
Jonathan Gunn agreed, their were other pyramids on the planet in Prometheus, why didn't the Engineers in those pick up the slack when the first pyramid went down with whatever took them out.
What is the soundtrack you use in your videos? Appropriately used. Great theories and fun discussions. -J
When I find it difficult to sleep I listen to your voice
The boyos in Covenant are engineers, confirmed by studio and Scott. The question that remains up in the air is whether that planet was their home world.
bio-weapons are really weak sauce... we all know giant space lazes are the way to go
Psychedelic and more humane, if you're going to try and kill an entire planet just because you decide they need to die
#theEmperordidnothingwrong
the sun is a deadly lazer
Not anymore there's a blanket.
Giant space lazes make people lazy?
1:59, apparently Ridley Scott has stated that the race from Covenant Was the Engineers, and a possible plot for the next movie (Awakening) is the engineer investigation & reaction to David's massacre.
The Anunnaki and the battle between Enlil and Enki. The original story is in the The Lost Book of Enki translated by Zecharia Sitchin from the Sumerian tablets .
That fictional story is just propaganda for the Elite's hoax alien threat to create a new world order, which is based on the book of Enoch and the flood myth, the same as Prometheus
2 engineers made it into the cryosleep room in the hologram in Prometheus...so where is the other dude all this time?
The Zee Group Where did you hear that?
The Zee Group there is a deleted scence or picture where his chest is busted open sternum to pelvis.
looks very much like what happened to the engineer at the end.
* I'll try to find link but if you search it shouldn't be too hard to find.
I know Scott is the creator (which sucks) but I do agree with the morality and experiment part as for what the Engineers deciding factors.
They seed life as well as destroy it, they're a balancing force of the cosmos.
But I've also felt that they have a certain hatred for "full" technology.
If you notice their ships are bio-organic as well as the Military factions suits are as well. Even in the comics their weapons seem to be bio-organic. They don't have any AI technology.
(Very far fetched idea) I think they despise AI's, if you look at the 1st mural from Prometheus, the creature the Engineer is subjugating greatly resembles their suits and bio masks...
Possibly a greater Alien race (possibly mechanical) that at one point created and enslaved the engineers or was a threat to their species, hence why everything is bio-organic so that they can remain in control.
The engineer became enraged once he realized David was a synthetic. Earth had created something the engineers both hated and feared....a conscience machine.
New life within the cosmos.
Think about Elden from Fire and stone, before he fused with the black goo and sacrificed himself for his friends, he began to mutate, became self aware and experienced emotions. The only defining factor was that he somehow became bio-organic. But he damn near unstoppable and was even able to command xenomorphs! He became a temporary god.
Why does it suck? Without him there is no Alien. I only blame him for allowing himself to be influenced and alter storylines.
Dude ur stories and theories are more interesting than the movie itself
Thanks for the explanation!
Sorry, but you are overinterpretate the Engineer Scene in Prometheus. I agree with the reason why they wanted to wipe out humanity, but I disagree about the explanation behind the Emgineers agressive behavior in the Scene. I think it would make the Scenario more realistic, if we considere that the violent Engineer was just a soldier and was mistaken to be a wise and powerfuö being by Weyland. He had nothing in mind, the only thing he knew was that he had the order to End life on Earth and now this Earthlings wokw him up. He was probably fascinated or amused by this creatures, but then he rembered his mission and kills the humans and their synthetic creation in the believe that they are wrong.
Beast Titan I am not questioning the Engineers intelligence, but I do not think that the Engineers are much smarter than Humans. Humans like to mystify things that are actually totally banal in their nature. We find a survivior of an ancient and probavly powerful race, which has created life on Earth and it seems like this survivor has to be some godlike creature, capable of enlightning others. This was Weylands mistake. The violent Engineers was likely just an ordinary worker among his race and the only thing he knew was his Mission to exterminate humanity.
The real diffferenxe between Engineers and Humans is not the intelligence, but a cultural and moral thing. In the Engineers view, humanity was a flawer and corrupted creation. A mistale which has to be corrected.
is that why he was on the spacecraft with the most important mission of destroying humanity?
I don't think they have regular soldiers, I think one point that was being made in the video was that the engineers do not have inequality and would have most likely seen every being they created as important. That's why they needed to exterminate the species who are a danger to all life they created, he was most likely a very intelligent engineer as everyone would be educated in their world, and probably volunteered for this mission as they probably do for every mission
He really fucked up this alien quadriogy prequel!!!
There was actually a deleted scene that extends the dialogue between Weyland, David and the Engineer, as well as subtitled translations of the Engineer's words.
The Emperor of Mankind will purge this Xenos filth.
Ave Imperator!
Dude if anything it makes more sense the the Emperor is an engineer. He was immortal and knew everything!
Interesting theories and explanations in this video 🤓
Interesting point of view, thank you!
1.25 ;)
Dawid Hyla definitely :)
No!
1.75
1.50 is better. I cant stand him saying "engineeeeeeer"
I thought I wanted to know, but upon hearing Scotts version I am so happy he never told us. It is flipping stupid to be offensive. Jesus now sits at the right hand of the engineer. When he said why have you forsaken me, he was not talking to god but a spaceship of White bald head sensative git.
not everything that we have learned jesus did has to be true ,i guess humans tried to make a religion out of that guy the engineers send named ''jesus'' so a lot of the things that we have learned that happened may not have happened at all
@@dragontepes4432 So the engineers last ditch effort to guide mankind was to send one dusty jewish guy 2000yrs ago to speak some Aesop fables and do magic parlor tricks in a time with no technology to properly document or record anything? Why not send a fleet of teachers or anything other than that stupid plan? Surely an advanced life form like engineers could think and calculate much better than that. Amateur thinking on Ridley's part
Sparky Pluggs edgy
The most convincing explanaition I found!
Great video 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Just watched prometheus again. A question for me is why the different acient civilizations on Earth draw the map to the Engineers planet?
Yeah for me this was a simple plot hole, humans wouldn’t have been able to draw a map to the stars etc. But then there’s the theories that the engineers sent teachers like Jesus Christ & all other religious deity and those characters may have drawn the map because they were supposed to be collected and due to the outbreak of the virus they never got picked up and taken home
And why and how did engineers invite human to their planet? That planet was not their origin planet but a military installation to produce WMD.
They invited them over for an outer space gangbang!
True, the engineers want to destroy us and we deserve it but this has nothing to do with Shaw being hit by the security guard. The juggernaut had its course set to earth before they woke up the engineer.
Flavio Sousa The course may have been set for earth but that was 2000 years before Prometheus. IF a more civilized and human group had came and woken the engineer and not shown barbaric and authoritarian properties over it's own kind like the act of shutting up and hitting Shaw it could have been argued that they may have been able to reason and convince the engineer that humanity was not the same as it was 2000 years ago. But Waylen showed the same treats that showed the engineers that humanity was a failed attempt even 2000 years later by claiming to be a creator and immediately requesting immortality and claiming to be like the engineers a creator of life or a God. Which since the engineers had already seen us as barbaric and not as equals could be considered an insult, thus dooming Waylen and the rest of the crew to be killed by the engineer, as well as showing even now with all the advancements we had made are still a barbaric and pose a threat to any and all other life forms that may be with in are technology's reach.
Who said the reason the Engineers want to destroy us is because the security gaurd hit Shaw. If that were the case, then this is the dumbest fucking movie of all time!!!
Vladimir Putin Authoritaruan doesn't necessarily mean primitive. The engineers society was probably authoritarian. Please leave your politics out of it
Flavio Sousa you might deserve it, i don't, and will protect my right to exist, even if it means killing whatever is trying to kill me 😉
I agree with Putin. I think what the Engineers saw 2000 years ago in humans was barbaric and dangerous so they set off to destroy everything, but yes, I think if the crew that woke him up could show that they had changed for the good and basically got their act together, it may have changed the Engineer's mind. A lot can happen in 2000 years while he was sleeping. Unfortunately they showed their true colors and the Engineer didn't have a need to stop the killing.
What I’ll never understand is why was the engineer so hell bent on killing Shaw?
The meek, calm, utterly unthreatening smile that David beams out while this monstrously powerful giant is stroking the hair on the top of his head (because he is programmed to always project calm serenity, in order to help put people as much as possible at ease, even in the most dangerous, threatening and stresssful of circumstances) just brings to mind one of Jordan Peterson's most stingingly insightful truisms :
"If you ever encounter a person who will *NEVER* put up a fight for anything, under any circumstances, then that is someone for whom you just can have absolutely *zero* respect. Ever."
Spike EP I’d respect a hyper-pacifist willing to die for their ideals by not fighting back ever, at least for their commitment.
Ironic
This video convinced me time had slowed down .. interesting though
"EngenEEEERS" the way of speaking...🤣🤣
Yahoo!
Sil from Species 1995 film the Engineers concept and inspiration which feature a race of humanoid Xenomorphs design by H.R. Giger .
Also the cyborg (unmasked version of him) from the 1992 sci fi film
Prototype X29A seems to have something in common with the Engineer outfit design .
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I love your alien context. Keep it up. ; )
I don't mind your how you speak.
You can come up with all the theories you want. Ridley has spoken. Period.
set speed to 1.25
thanx :)
Good idea , this prevents me from falling asleep 😂😂
1.5 is better still.
Switch speed to 1.25 or 1.5
Thanks me latter.
No!
good vid!!,I thought it was odd how the engineer hesitated on her cross around her neck.
Now I know how to fall asleep faster!! I watch this video every night.
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good shit
I like to see all of them meet. Human, engineers, predators, xenomorph and the robot
Love the background music in these videos
Soo is David the one going around and seeding planets with his mutated pathogen aka the XENOMORPH!?
David (Michael Fassbender) personality concept:
1. Niccolo Machiavelli the “Prince” book .
2. Archie Hicox (Michael Fassbender) from Inglorious Bastards 2009 film .
Bonus :
Sil from Species 1995 film the Engineers concept and inspiration which feature a race of humanoid Xenomorphs design by H.R. Giger .
Also the cyborg (unmasked version of him) from the 1992 sci fi film
Prototype X29A seems to have something in common with the Engineer outfit design .
One more reason why people should refrain from heaping so much praise on filmmakers such as Ridley Scott.
His explanation is so lacking in imagination and derivative that it is completely laughable. Apparently, R. Scott's imagination never left the popular zeitgeist of the 70's. If you want to rehash the Chariots of the Gods scenario at least try to come up with something unique; do not go with 'space jesus'. Oh please.
So we are back to the old "humans are so evil as a species that they must be eradicated" plot eh? And the best way to destroy this wayward experimental species is to create a mutagenic goop that will completely supplant an entire portion of the ecosystem with ravenous biological killing machines that have no engineered life span limit? For a superior species they seem pretty dumb if what Scott says about the story is true.
What rubbish.
M D it may be "old", but the concept of our species being destructive and "unworthy" will not go away as long as we keep killing each other and destroying our environment. If us humans had created AI which developed in a dangerous direction we didn't like, many people would find it justifiable to destroy them. As for the goo, that is indeed an effective way to wipe out a species and destroy a world, which was their intention, no?
M D space Jesus wouldn't have been too bad.... imo it would have been better than we got (nothing)
Keep in mind this is this guy's interpretation to what Ridley said. I don't think the whole "space Jesus" thing works
its good what do u mean stop hatin
kuruptzZz even if that were the case, we wouldn't start destroying the computers with nuclear weapons wiping us out in the process.
"oh look, this harmless AI might in a few thousand years pose a threat to us, let's destroy it with weapons that create more problems than they solve".
It would be more accurate to say that the Engineer "damaged" David. He certainly didn't "kill" him. (My theory is that Ridley didn't think any of it through but just created a bunch of scenes that he thought audiences would enjoy. None of it makes any sense)
To me, it seems him being so violent is like the behavior of a superior being. He doesn't care about what they tell him or the feelings or emotions of humans, he owns the race, he removes any threat and discomfort and continues with his mission. Like we would smack a mosquito but when we see it flies out of the window we don't bother about it anymore. It has no authority and no priority in general. That's also why he doesn't hunt her down when she is running away.
Maybe they were angry at humans for making such an awful movie with a ridiculous premise that completely ignores the history of evolution, but more likely they are just mad at Ridley Scott for ruining the Aliens franchise
nothing is ruined in movies,it can all be fixed if wanted
@@mrnobody4147 what´s on film is on film and it can´t be fixed, unless you reshoot the whole thing with a new script. Sorry ;-)
@@mrnobody4147 j8i
lol lol lol
Shut up
"Black goo" - still sounds such a cop out. It's a shame Giger passed when he did. Probably would have contribute d to something far more cerebral than a primordial soup.
Great Ridley!
I can't wait for the next Movie !!!!
3:35 - is what you're here for. 'They want to wipe it clean.' He literally buried those words in a 6 minute video of him talking at a snails pace. Save your time, the words are 'They want to wipe it clean.' and move onto a content producer who isn't clickbaiting you into stupid shit.
or another option, the whole video is included in the description. It takes 1 minute to read.
BrandNewSongz People shouldn't have to read about a video on a website built for videos.
+Dank Black Man true.
I have an interesting question for you ,and your subscribers...one which no one else has considered.... what do you think,would of been the outcome,if just david and shaw woke up the last engineer,without weyland??
Steven George threesome?
I think the outcome would be different since Shaw represents an ideal of human - kind and compassionate. David at that point was not completely insane and poisoned Charly only by Weyland order(that he received while talking to him in cryosleep). The Engineer probably noticed that Weyland positions himself above everyone else it the crew which triggered the Engineer to finish his original mission.
Steven George I think they would have ended up having a really interesting conversation that would have completly brain fucked shaw
Even after the Engineer saw Shaw get abused, he wanted her dead.I think the Engineer would have tolerated a conversation for a few minutes, but eventually would have told them to get lost or be squashed. And then carried on with his mission. And David could speak his language but he had no respect for them.
Nodak81 ok , but he's alone , do you think one juggernaut of cargo has enough black goo on it to wipe out all life on earth, David only managed to
Wipe out everybody in the citadel with his cargo ( why they are all in one place on an entire planet is a mystery , covenant is a dumb sequel
Anyway )
I believe the whole aliens franchise is Riddle Riddle Scot's personal point of view about Humanity, religion and Our Fate as a species
What is the background music. I really enjoy it
I enjoy your videos very much @Kroft👽👾. And your narrations are just fine 👌
As I've said many times before and now again, the beings on paradise are NOT engineers! I knew I was right..
They are not Engineers! Kroft knows it, but if he and the other youtubers revealed the truth from the beginning, they wouldnt get as many video views as they have now. You know "having the cure and selling only painkillers" ...
jose pida True, but many have argued that they were engineers. It didn't make any sense for a highly advanced civilization to live in an ancient city made of stone. At least we actually have answers now.
Jose yes! i told Kroft in a very detailed way why those beings were not Engineers, maybe that way he could make a video saying what I told. UA-camrs are applying David's thoughts "to create, one must first destroy"...cause UA-camrs want to take advantage of the people (children 15-27yold) who didn't understand the movie and earn money in the way.
jose pida Precisely, It takes a good movie critic to know a movie unlike most that complain that there's no xenomorphs!
RS CONFIRMED they are engineers in a recent podcast interview
Nobody anywhere seems to have an answer as to why, 35000 years ago- Engineers pointed humans to that particular star system and planet that was nothing more than a military installation and not their homeworld. Why would they do this?
Furthermore I'm quite surprised to find I'm the only one asking this question as not even Ridley Scott broaches the subject in his expository podcast.
It should be noted that without a proper answer to this question, The rest of the film makes no sense at all which is quite problematic given the fact that the sole purpose of the film is to enlighten us as to what the hell is going on in the first place.
whats the name of the music? in the background???
You may set the speed to 1.5x or 1.25x
But I prefer *.5*
It makes me sleep
It be cool if they explained this in the movie it makes it much more interesting. The part that the engineers sent Jesus and after they kill him they want to kill us
really wanted to watch this, but ur voice, bro!! omg! I'd rather listen to ben stein
I think it's the same dude who spews MGTOW propaganda. That one sounds exactly the same.
Yeah many denote the bad aspects of his voice but like it (don’t ask me why, maybe is just me).
excellent answer and reason for the hate of humanity. the engineers must have seen that we (humanity) turned out to be one big clusterfuck and deemed us to be a very dangerous species that needed to be stopped by whatever means.
The story makes sense exactly as you described in the latter portion