As a Swed its been great seeing our tank history on display here! Even tho I don't even play WoT.. I'm a War-thunder kinda guy :P I absolutely love yours&Wargamings content especially "Inside The Chieftain's hatch"
TheAmityboopfliction Yeah, I can't stand the arcade style of WoT but they definitely do more with their community than gaijoob does with the WT community.
that's the major thing about wot. they bring history back to life and I love them for it. until wargaming I knew very little about tanks or planes or even warships. keep it up guys
***** history is these tanks. None of these tanks are fighting on equal time grounds. So most tanks we use existed or are blueprints or they were envisioned by someone. No one in their right mind would use an arcade game to judge performance. Not even simulators are capable of giving an accurate result. But still some of the tanks we use didn't survive or are not capable of operating. So again they brought those tanks to life
I've been into reenacting for over 25yrs and the impact video games made on the general publics knowledge of military equipment was a shock to me. when I started into the world of military living histories/battles reenacting one had to tell over 70% of the viewers what weapon was what, even had the WWII German reenactors confused for active duty Marines. But one day at a living history event with the traveling Vietnam memorial wall these 10-14 yr old kids named every weapon we had on display(even calling the M-79 a china lake) I was dumbfounded to say the lest. The new breed coming into the hobby may know more on the actual names, specs and uses of equipment than I did when I started. Being this as it is I feel it is imperative that the game designers get it right and have it historically accurate. I appreciate what WOT is doing and how involved they have become in not only the game experience but outside the game with its gamer community.
It's really cool to see that public interest in tanks and tank history has been invigorated by World of Tanks in the last few years, not just in Sweden but across the globe. I know my interest in tanks only got past a mild curiosity after I got into the game. I think it's a bit much to call World of Tanks a cultural phenomenon, but it definitely puts a bit of pressure on WG to make WoT a good game, not just for money, but to keep the public interest in tanks alive. Also looking forward to seeing more of the museum!
sound is low:-/ turned up to Max on my Sony z3 c... phone which can play sounds at quite loud levels for it's size I still cant hear the video too well
I´m glad I didn´t apply to tank force here in Finland. I´m over 6 feet (187cm) and I had hard time even in the trenches for my height...couldn´t get low enough, always hitting my helmet to the upper cross bars.
In 1655 Sweeds invaded almost all Poland. It was called "The Swedish Flood". Polish and Swedish kings were family. Even then they had great infantry. Well trained and equipped. In winter you could walk thru frozen Baltic on foot btw.
Sweden has always had different operational concerns to a lot of the rest of the world. I don't quite know as much about the tanks but for aircraft they always have a few requirements that make sense for them specifically. For instance a major problem in jet aircraft is you need a place to take off from, and these places are likely to be bombed first because they can't move. Various ways have been tried to get around this, stuff like VTOL is hard and usually less stable and a bit melty, ZELL is violent and still requires some where to land. If you are expecting a defensive war though, and have a large country with straight roads, then having requirements for that could help. Because you are expecting to have a high sortie rate and not be somewhere with reasonably prepared maintenance staff, it therefore is a reasonable idea to have the aircraft easily maintainable and serviceable by unskilled people on the side of the road. It also requires having smaller aircraft. Of course they had some of these requirements for other reasons, but there is always some method to the madness. There are probably some other things in there as well that I am missing.
Agamsch, bah Viking are space probes, we all know that. No we need new tanks like the Värmland Mk.1, Mars Makalös MBT, and of course the decoy tanks Type Wasa that blows up in convincing fasion when hit by anything bigger than a BB-bullet. Or we should name them after prime ministers, like Type-4 Persson Heavy, the Branting Assault Tank and the Heavy Artillery Palme.
KamiRecca the only problem with that is that eventually we’d have to name one after Löfven. And he’s the least firting person to name a tank after. I propose naming them after swedish kings instead.
hey if arsenalen tank museum needs funds see if they are privy to a crowdfunding service I'm sure people and probably world of tanks players wouldn't mind trowing a few dollars at making sure a great tank building nations history of tanks is not forgotten
OH SNAP ! Wait until the comments from Norway pour in. It wasn't the one tank that was the problem it was integrity and not having a agreement with Nazi Germany to use the railroads, iron and steel production to help invade Russia and build war material. There is a long standing serious rivalry / historic distrust between otherwise all most the same countries Sweden and Norway, so could be interesting. BUT if you are in Sweden do go see the War Museum in Stockholm extremely well done. Except for the already noted lack of signs in Swedish museums for some reason
Well. And Germany really badly wanted Norways coast for their atlantic operations. And I really don't understand why norwegians harp on Sweden for not going to war?! Norway just as Finland didn't choose to go to war... they were invaded and had no choise but to fight. Sweden had a real problem with giving any "official" support to either Finland or Norway as it would be a declaration of war against the axis or in Finlands case..war against the allies. Sweden did send some 13 000 men, some as soldiers (my grandfather went) and mostly doctors and engineers, and equipement over to Finland. The Russians took notice and dropped some bombs over Stockholm as a warning for assisting the finns.
Norwegians don´t dislike that the Swedes didn't go to war with Germany, we dislike that the Swedes actively aided the Germans in the first part of the war.
That would be like saying that swedes doesn't like the norwegians just because the nazis invaded you and let them put pressure on the Swedish to transport material and goods. But we are not going to say that we don't like norwegians just because Norway put Sweden in an impossible situation...That would be unfair and absurd. Right? Do not forget that Sweden did help both the norwegian army and the resistance in any way they could.
How can being invaded by the worlds most powerful military force possibly be "putting Sweden in an impossible situation"? Sweden actually sent known resistance fighters fleeing to Sweden back to Norway and Gestapo. There was no support to the Norwegian army during the actual war in Norway and Sweden, at first, actively aided Germany both in transporting men and material and by denying Norwegian resistance fighters refuge and transit trough Sweden.
Outright supporting the norwegian army would be seen as a decleration of war against the axis. So you can imagine that what was "possible" wasn't much. So what would you have had the swedish goverment do? The "impossible situation was that officially helping Norway would have been declaring a war that Sweden had no chance of winning against the axis..Helping Finland would have put Sweden in the same situation as that would bee declaing war against the allies. The only hope for not having russia and germany fighting each other on Swedish soil was to remain as "neutral" as possible. Look at how shitty Finland was treated after the war. *They got it bad*. Besides private donations from people, no allied goverment could help Finland right after the war besides thoose who stayed "neutral" in the conflict. They had been at war with Russia...an allied and was therefore not reciving money from the Marshall Plan. Who were the resistance fighters that were sent back then? Any other allied soldier were smuggeled out of Sweden when ever there was an opportunity. German pilots were jailed until the end of the war.
He had a mic, he just couldn't reach all the way uo to it. (Perfect size for a tanker though, unlike the chieftain who should never have been in a tank to start with).
Historical Heritage of the brave. Fore fighters. The things they did the Finnish on skied. In fought skied out. Silent. Deadly like THETE Viking fire fathers
since you took down original video, i repeat myself. (git gud scrub lol) Stefan Karlsson? that's gotta be one of the MOST Swedish names one can have in Sweden.
Well i did say one of them. also, after closer inspection he looks like he's a foreman at a major industrial facility. like.. SSAB. or maybe Scania? factory floor? nah nah.. BANVERKET! yeah Banverket! :D and yes i'm somewhat taking the piss. why do i type this in English? Den du.
Norwegian and Finnish folks are tough brave widely scattered but the ones I've. Loved as a kid are gone. I fight my HEFERN to honor my mom SANDRA. MAIDEN NAME SANDVIK FOR HER. AND HER DAD KARL
Stefan is pretty short (typical of a Swedish tanker really, back when he did his conscription service they just didn't select people taller than 175 cm for tank crews), but the Chieftain is also *really* tall, so Stefan looks even shorter than he actually is...
The Audiorecording is not very well.... Bad Job of the Guys who recorded it. If you doubt my Claims: if you can't record Chorus singers you can't do a recording in such a hall anyway.. He's barely to understand because of the bad recording of his Voice. PRO HINT: SOUND CHECKS.... :D
Bob Junior he worked in a centurion. Number 346 or something in that region (although it is possible that he worked on the strv 103 as well because he is really good at driving that machine). And he is not short. I'm 183 and are just a bit taller than him.
One of them has the height to be a tanker, the other does not. It's not the swede who is the one that is the wrong height in this case. If ever you wonder why the chieftain is constantly complaining about tanks being small and tight, it's because tanks are usually designed for tankers to be below average height, not above.
As a Swed its been great seeing our tank history on display here! Even tho I don't even play WoT.. I'm a War-thunder kinda guy :P I absolutely love yours&Wargamings content especially "Inside The Chieftain's hatch"
TheAmityboopfliction Yeah, I can't stand the arcade style of WoT but they definitely do more with their community than gaijoob does with the WT community.
That guy is built to be a tanker that is for sure ^^.
Well he would meet the height restrictions to fit into a T-54/55. but he doesn't have the arms to be a loader he'll definitely need an autoloader.
Always comes back to some machismo thing...
+WhiteBones. I figured that tank loaders would have the same arms as soldiers in the Artillery branch.
Usually the artillery branch handles bigger and heavier shells
You could have at least stood him on a box so it's not like Treebeard talking to Merry and Pippin.
thanks, first quality laugh of the day
Sweden was a major cannon producer from the 16th century and made the best cannons in europe
that's the major thing about wot. they bring history back to life and I love them for it.
until wargaming I knew very little about tanks or planes or even warships. keep it up guys
***** history is these tanks. None of these tanks are fighting on equal time grounds. So most tanks we use existed or are blueprints or they were envisioned by someone.
No one in their right mind would use an arcade game to judge performance. Not even simulators are capable of giving an accurate result.
But still some of the tanks we use didn't survive or are not capable of operating. So again they brought those tanks to life
bring history ?1 lmasso hehe
Nice to see the man behind the Swedish series , great to see the inside looking out view.
I've been into reenacting for over 25yrs and the impact video games made on the general publics knowledge of military equipment was a shock to me. when I started into the world of military living histories/battles reenacting one had to tell over 70% of the viewers what weapon was what, even had the WWII German reenactors confused for active duty Marines. But one day at a living history event with the traveling Vietnam memorial wall these 10-14 yr old kids named every weapon we had on display(even calling the M-79 a china lake) I was dumbfounded to say the lest. The new breed coming into the hobby may know more on the actual names, specs and uses of equipment than I did when I started. Being this as it is I feel it is imperative that the game designers get it right and have it historically accurate. I appreciate what WOT is doing and how involved they have become in not only the game experience but outside the game with its gamer community.
It's really cool to see that public interest in tanks and tank history has been invigorated by World of Tanks in the last few years, not just in Sweden but across the globe. I know my interest in tanks only got past a mild curiosity after I got into the game. I think it's a bit much to call World of Tanks a cultural phenomenon, but it definitely puts a bit of pressure on WG to make WoT a good game, not just for money, but to keep the public interest in tanks alive.
Also looking forward to seeing more of the museum!
sound is low:-/ turned up to Max on my Sony z3 c... phone which can play sounds at quite loud levels for it's size
I still cant hear the video too well
I´m glad I didn´t apply to tank force here in Finland. I´m over 6 feet (187cm) and I had hard time even in the trenches for my height...couldn´t get low enough, always hitting my helmet to the upper cross bars.
In 1655 Sweeds invaded almost all Poland. It was called "The Swedish Flood". Polish and Swedish kings were family. Even then they had great infantry. Well trained and equipped. In winter you could walk thru frozen Baltic on foot btw.
Hahah i thought Stefan's tie was the mic at first..
lol you just deleated the whole thing at the end XDDDDD
Also what about filming the floor and other stuf?
I remember your comment and give you a thumbup :)
Sweden has always had different operational concerns to a lot of the rest of the world. I don't quite know as much about the tanks but for aircraft they always have a few requirements that make sense for them specifically.
For instance a major problem in jet aircraft is you need a place to take off from, and these places are likely to be bombed first because they can't move. Various ways have been tried to get around this, stuff like VTOL is hard and usually less stable and a bit melty, ZELL is violent and still requires some where to land. If you are expecting a defensive war though, and have a large country with straight roads, then having requirements for that could help. Because you are expecting to have a high sortie rate and not be somewhere with reasonably prepared maintenance staff, it therefore is a reasonable idea to have the aircraft easily maintainable and serviceable by unskilled people on the side of the road. It also requires having smaller aircraft.
Of course they had some of these requirements for other reasons, but there is always some method to the madness. There are probably some other things in there as well that I am missing.
Very cool. Maybe World of Tanks will expand the line of Swedish tanks soon?
There are still tanks for maybe one or two more branches, but I think getting more Brits and the rest of the EU countries first is the priority now.
Strv S1 Prem TD like S-tank
arty bandkanon
Tomato_Forever how fucking wrong you are boy.
The Swedes should start building new tanks, they should call it the Viking I.
Agamsch, bah Viking are space probes, we all know that. No we need new tanks like the Värmland Mk.1, Mars Makalös MBT, and of course the decoy tanks Type Wasa that blows up in convincing fasion when hit by anything bigger than a BB-bullet.
Or we should name them after prime ministers, like Type-4 Persson Heavy, the Branting Assault Tank and the Heavy Artillery Palme.
KamiRecca the only problem with that is that eventually we’d have to name one after Löfven. And he’s the least firting person to name a tank after. I propose naming them after swedish kings instead.
His MEMORY left its mark on me
This guy is great! Chieftain, you're ok too! ;)
Interesting stuff. Thanks for posting!
Any chance of a M18 hellcat or an M1 Abrams, modern tanks are good too.
How do you fit into a tank? Tankers are supposed to small!
interesting interview - shame about the sound
why is the video quality of this video so low?
I'm a tank historian, not a video editor...
It didnt mean the the editing of the clip, The resolution is much lower than usually.
on the other hand, It was a good a video!
hey if arsenalen tank museum needs funds see if they are privy to a crowdfunding service I'm sure people and probably world of tanks players wouldn't mind trowing a few dollars at making sure a great tank building nations history of tanks is not forgotten
i didn't know Sweden had tanks in 1421(read the captions at 0:32)
Now it ends without whatever you were going to say after he complemented WGs job on WoT... still I guess thats slightly better than slow-mo Chieftain.
Thank you for the video. +1
DO ANOTHER TANKS 101 CHIEFTAIN!!! THE LAST ONE IS SO GREAT!!!!!
Bofors is from the 1600s!
OH SNAP ! Wait until the comments from Norway pour in. It wasn't the one tank that was the problem it was integrity and not having a agreement with Nazi Germany to use the railroads, iron and steel production to help invade Russia and build war material. There is a long standing serious rivalry / historic distrust between otherwise all most the same countries Sweden and Norway, so could be interesting. BUT if you are in Sweden do go see the War Museum in Stockholm extremely well done. Except for the already noted lack of signs in Swedish museums for some reason
Well. And Germany really badly wanted Norways coast for their atlantic operations.
And I really don't understand why norwegians harp on Sweden for not going to war?! Norway just as Finland didn't choose to go to war... they were invaded and had no choise but to fight. Sweden had a real problem with giving any "official" support to either Finland or Norway as it would be a declaration of war against the axis or in Finlands case..war against the allies. Sweden did send some 13 000 men, some as soldiers (my grandfather went) and mostly doctors and engineers, and equipement over to Finland. The Russians took notice and dropped some bombs over Stockholm as a warning for assisting the finns.
Norwegians don´t dislike that the Swedes didn't go to war with Germany, we dislike that the Swedes actively aided the Germans in the first part of the war.
That would be like saying that swedes doesn't like the norwegians just because the nazis invaded you and let them put pressure on the Swedish to transport material and goods. But we are not going to say that we don't like norwegians just because Norway put Sweden in an impossible situation...That would be unfair and absurd. Right?
Do not forget that Sweden did help both the norwegian army and the resistance in any way they could.
How can being invaded by the worlds most powerful military force possibly be "putting Sweden in an impossible situation"?
Sweden actually sent known resistance fighters fleeing to Sweden back to Norway and Gestapo. There was no support to the Norwegian army during the actual war in Norway and Sweden, at first, actively aided Germany both in transporting men and material and by denying Norwegian resistance fighters refuge and transit trough Sweden.
Outright supporting the norwegian army would be seen as a decleration of war against the axis. So you can imagine that what was "possible" wasn't much.
So what would you have had the swedish goverment do? The "impossible situation was that officially helping Norway would have been declaring a war that Sweden had no chance of winning against the axis..Helping Finland would have put Sweden in the same situation as that would bee declaing war against the allies. The only hope for not having russia and germany fighting each other on Swedish soil was to remain as "neutral" as possible. Look at how shitty Finland was treated after the war. *They got it bad*. Besides private donations from people, no allied goverment could help Finland right after the war besides thoose who stayed "neutral" in the conflict. They had been at war with Russia...an allied and was therefore not reciving money from the Marshall Plan.
Who were the resistance fighters that were sent back then? Any other allied soldier were smuggeled out of Sweden when ever there was an opportunity. German pilots were jailed until the end of the war.
Come to Denmark and look at fantastic tanks!
thx for the videa
Nicholas, are you a giant? Stefan mentioned he's too big for certain tanks...
We want to add something .."helicopter" well making a the helicopter bigger for a customer is a new version really . NH90 HCV
Mr Chieftain, you don't need to be that tall.
Louis de Funes?
The sound is really bad for the Swedish bloke. Did you neglect to give him a mic because he looked too small and insignificant?
He had a mic, he just couldn't reach all the way uo to it. (Perfect size for a tanker though, unlike the chieftain who should never have been in a tank to start with).
Historical Heritage of the brave. Fore fighters. The things they did the Finnish on skied. In fought skied out. Silent. Deadly like THETE Viking fire fathers
Viking heritage. They fought with what they had. Swedish craftsmanship. Is. While small is. Impressive
My leaft ear liked this video :D
since you took down original video, i repeat myself. (git gud scrub lol)
Stefan Karlsson? that's gotta be one of the MOST Swedish names one can have in Sweden.
Puttler actually, Johansson is/was the most common surname.
Well i did say one of them.
also, after closer inspection he looks like he's a foreman at a major industrial facility. like.. SSAB. or maybe Scania? factory floor? nah nah.. BANVERKET! yeah Banverket! :D
and yes i'm somewhat taking the piss. why do i type this in English? Den du.
Norwegian and Finnish folks are tough brave widely scattered but the ones I've. Loved as a kid are gone. I fight my HEFERN to honor my mom SANDRA. MAIDEN NAME SANDVIK FOR HER. AND HER DAD KARL
There is something cool about the s-tank.
petrallen what could it be ...
You guys look like Hirohito and McArthur.
One of them looks like they would fit in a tank, the other does not (and loudly complains about tanks being too small all the time).
that's a short Viking !!
Stefan is pretty short (typical of a Swedish tanker really, back when he did his conscription service they just didn't select people taller than 175 cm for tank crews), but the Chieftain is also *really* tall, so Stefan looks even shorter than he actually is...
yeah I realized that with the chieftain he should had played basketball and leave tanks alone :)
I think our Dear Tank Jesus is 6'3 (or 192cm) thereabouts, so the image is def. a bit distorted.
owwww if you were just going to delete the ending you should have left it hahaha xD
The average swedish WoT gamer is 30-50? lulz
( that visit the museum) but I would agree the average age is probely 20-30
He did more talking in 13min than most Swedes do in a whole year.
And look how awkward he was doing it ;)
The Audiorecording is not very well.... Bad Job of the Guys who recorded it.
If you doubt my Claims: if you can't record Chorus singers you can't do a recording in such a hall anyway..
He's barely to understand because of the bad recording of his Voice.
PRO HINT: SOUND CHECKS.... :D
so you dug up the smallest swede in the history of sweden. thats funny.
I'd wager that he's a former tanker =)
He is a former tanker. I think he said once he drove the S-tank during his service
Bob Junior he worked in a centurion. Number 346 or something in that region (although it is possible that he worked on the strv 103 as well because he is really good at driving that machine). And he is not short. I'm 183 and are just a bit taller than him.
The Chieftain is 6 ft 5/196 cm. Add the thick boots he's wearing and he's just stupid tall.
One of them has the height to be a tanker, the other does not.
It's not the swede who is the one that is the wrong height in this case. If ever you wonder why the chieftain is constantly complaining about tanks being small and tight, it's because tanks are usually designed for tankers to be below average height, not above.
Fix your sound! Almost unwatchable.