Steven Pinker: Enlightenment Now | Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO)
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Author and cognitive psychologist Steven Pinker joins Bill to share some good news about the 21st century.
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It would have been good if he let Steven speak.
gammarayburst That's called Rekt btw.
Par for the course. I like Bill, but he's a woeful interviwer.
Yeah, STFU, Bill. We hear you every week; let Pinker speak.
Ikr! And he also seemed so sweet
these kind of one-liner political shows are horrible set ups for academics...it was the same thing with jordan peterson - that setting just doesn't work to explore and elaborate on complex ideas, thats why i prefer the long term format for these kinds of discussions
You invite one of the smartest, most eloquent public thinkers in the world and you don't let him speak.
Oskar Ström
A man that thinks carbon dioxide levels in the atmosphere are going down ain't that smart.
Also, the damage we have inflicted on the environment and biodiversity is unimaginable. The price is not worth it and we better change the way we measure progress.
The rain forests are being cut down. The water, both fresh and ocean, is polluted heavily. Plastic use has done damage to ocean life. Use of insecticides and antibiotics destroying the eco system. The proliferation of slams and mega cities that are actually food deserts and filled with pollution and carcinogens. The disintegration of family and social life where people don't care as much for their fellow neighbours and the aged.
To top it all, the concentration of money and power into fewer hands.
mudr kk
They have gone down though
global carbon emissions are actually beginning to plateau, and will likely fall due to efforts outlined in the paris agreement. who are you to say he's not smart? if you are that concerned about deforestation, water degradation, and antibiotic use I hope you're vegan ;)
M. Fink
That is patently false.
There are more vehicles running on fossil fuels today. More electricity being produced by burning coal, natural gus or biomass.
More freight either air, land or sea. More traveling.
More consumption of goods that require electricity to be produced, transported and preserved.
The Fukushima nuclear accident has resulted in the switching off of many nuclear power plants especially in western Europe and Japan that has resulted in more electricity being produced by burning fossil fuels.
I can go on and on.
Maybe try to put up a link to your point.
mori ko
*beginning to plateau*
That's vague. The charts of carbon emmision have steadily been going up for over a century now.
*will likely fall*
That's the hope. But that has yet to happen. Pinker is wrong on that.
*who are you to say he is not smart*
Where did I say that?
I was responding to the comment on top that classified him as one of the smartest people.
Clearly being wrong on something as basic as carbon emissions and the environmental damage just to reach this very unqual state of existence where the richest 100 humans have more wealth and will continue to do so under the system than half of all inhabitants is a disappointment for a suposedly one of the smartest dudes.
Why invite someone and not let them speak. Love Bill but this sometimes blows my mind
Bill has lost his mojo, that's for sure.
Leon Horbach he does this allot tho. Opposite of Dave Robin @rubinreport who listens politely 😊
Because if he let Pinker speak much more the truths that he would share would rock the worlds of many of the guests and audience members. It was already happening if you watched the show as it was originally aired.
Angelo De Boni Dave Rubin sucks. Maher is awful and strokes his own ego very regularly, but Rubin does it every time he opens his mouth and lumps himself in with minds that are way out of his league and who I suspect really want nothing from him besides his mediocre platform.
I wish Pinker had a bit more time to state his case. The exchange that followed this segment was almost painful to watch. Not sure what Hughley's problem was, but his claim that life hasn't improved for black people in the US since the 70s was so absurdly and obviously false that I almost couldn't believe what I was hearing. And for him to use Pinker as the unwitting strawman/fall guy in that way was just... ugly.
Hughley was annoying during the whole show. He used every opportunity to dumb down the conversation just so he could insert part of his stand up routine.
Just a dumb entertainer who thinks he’s “woke”. Pinker is an ultimate intellectual
deadeaded 10% of Black men are in the legal system. That is level not seen in the modern world. That’s higher than apartheid South Africa. This is catastrophic.
Good on DL Hughley for pushing back on Pinker segment. DL didn’t mention the wealth data but income mask the racial wealth gap. The Median Black family has a Net Worth of $1,600 if you remove the family car, sofa,etc while the median white family has a net worth of $160,000 and that gap is growing. Education isn’t closing the gap, nor is working more isn’t closing the gap. DL was on the right track.
Con Sullivan Black percentage of US wealth is at the same level of Jim Crow era. The woke dropout was correct, the “Ultimate intellectual” used Income instead of Wealth to measure progression.
I'm pleased you're upfront enough to have "Con" feature prominently in your handle.
I loves this line in futurama when Fry says he’s glad climate change never happened and Leela responded “actually it did, but nuclear winter canceled it out.”
And then there's the ep where they reveal they've been fighting global warming by taking comet ice to cool the ocean.
Genius show. Good right to the end, unlike Matt Groening's other show.
If we have the universal constructor (a self replicating 3D printer or "artificial plant"). You can battle global warming quickly, terraforming Mars, as well as giving you tons of energy when it creates wind and solar harvesters, and tons of houses and stuff when its used to build things. People don't understand the ridiculousness of exponential growth, 1 2 4 8 16 32 64 128 256 512 1k 2k..., in 40 generations is one quadrillion.
Top tier hair
I've heard that Dr Pinker's university bases his salary upon how many
pounds is hair weighs. "Here's to another 100k year!" :)
Dudes got the golden locks😂😂😂
Fun fact: Steven Pinker was the first member inducted into the Luxuriant Flowing Hair Club For Scientists. (Not kidding.)
Another fun fact: Steven Pinker was one of the first people ever to have their genome sequenced. He was informed that he had a genetic disposition toward male pattern baldness.
The geniuses always have the best cuts: Gladwell, Einstein, Pinker, Kramer
Loved "Enlightenment Now", Pinker is an absolute beast of an intellectual!
Pinker has the unique ability to convince you through well reasoned arguments derived from objective data that Western civilization is always improving yet you still leave the conversation needing a shot of whiskey.
NUKE
can you let him speak..
This part of the show should have been labelled 'Monologue'.
YAY! Love professor Pinker!!!
Thanks for having him on Bill.
I love Steven Pinker!!!
The confusion between points Bill and DL were saying and Pinker's points is the perspective. Pinker has stepped back and looked at the broader picture, whereas Bill and then DL were looking at specifics. [The same mistake made with weather and climate change.]
But the screaming people in the audience actually makes this show very difficult to bear.
I think if you listen again to 5:40 onward, you may see that Bill IS looking at the bigger picture, and Pinker agrees with him.
Yeah, of course they agree, Bill said as such from the start. And since is Bill's quick on the uptake he got Pinker's point. But that wasn't what was happening for most of that important discussion, which I wish had gone longer.
Bill's no idiot. He may be a comedian, but he is extremely well-informed, as is his audience. Climate change is an extremely complex issue, and he would be doing viewers a disservice by simply agreeing with everything Pinker said. From reading the comments on this video, I see that pretty much everyone thought Pinker should have had longer to speak, but that's not the format of this show. Guests are brought out to promote their books, and the audience benefits by being introduced to writers they may not be familiar with. I actually had never heard of Pinker, and now I'm going to listen to all of his lectures, of which there are plenty on YT. Just the fact that Pinker is a guest on Real Time lets me know he's worthy of a listen.
for the good of humanity, Bill should let Steven talk
let him talk ffs
NUKE
Pinker is the breath of fresh air we deserve.
Bill barely let Pinker speak
NUKE
Why does he bother having guests?
Pinker spoke plenty. You're just whining because Maher challenged Pinker.
I do love how pinker gives Bill slight corrections but still keeps the conversation going.
Hughley was annoying during the whole show. He used every opportunity to dumb down the conversation just so he could insert part of his stand up routine.
Bastiano T. Yeah... I haven’t seen someone so wrong since Trump. He was shitty.
he was terrible indeed, not even funny in the slightest. And he could not fathom that shit was worse in the 70's.
Mark Wick and? That doesn't change the fact that he ruined conversations. Comedians are supposed to add hilarity to conversations, not ruin them.
THANK YOU for saying this. While watching I was going nuts in response to his "black people black people black people (now insert not funny joke based on "racism.")"
Bill...give the man a chance to speak ONE full sentence...please! Lol
My intellectual hero...Pinkert. It is unreal that some young people dismiss him and his contributions. But then that very same group will sit down tonight and watch the Kardashians. What a disgrace that my country has become so anti-science. Btw Bill, either let this man speak, or give him a longer segment.
I love how they all applaud as if someone in the studio accomplished these things
Clapping generally shows approval of something, I'm more concerned about those die-hard-downers that clapped for nukes and pollution!
People might say those People are realists but I'd argue they're so conditioned by big-media that negativity and pessimism has become such a strong part of their nature, that their ego is defending it.
There is a reason why people don't realise things are better today than at any time in the past: negativity bias. Basically, your average person is more naturally inclined to ponder what went wrong, rather than what goes right.
Steven Pinker has something significant to say on, as far as I know so far reading one of his books now & having listened to many of his lectures & interviews, just about all of the points Bill Maher makes. In agreement with many comments here; it's a shame Steven Pinker didn't get to say more here. He definitely gets my vote. I think Bill Maher gets my vote also!
Yes, to know what Steven Pinker has to say, you must read his books. He's been writing for decades.
Balance is certainly important... but while good news is nice to hear, it doesn't require attention the way bad news does. We hear about bad news more often, not only because it sells better... but also because it's the news that needs something done about.
When the plumber comes, you don't give him a tour of all the fixtures that work... you take him to the toilet spewing crap all over the bathroom.
But if you think the world is getting worse and that all our institutions are failing, then you're more likely to vote for a demagogue who promises revolution. People need to know the truth, especially if they're going to vote.
New Message it's important to understand that what we've been doing is working so that we don't tear it down and restart
New Message Bad news is diaster porn, infotainment, it's not there for people to do something about it, research shows people get empathy fatigue, so all this news is doing is desensitizing people, making them more apathetic.
Jonathan Olson, Pinker is not saying that what we've been doing is working. Listen to 5:40 to the end.
Lava Lover maybe not what we've been doing is working, but what we've been doing has worked to get us to this point, and it would be good for us to understand why it has worked and why it may not be working very well anymore and into the future. What we've been doing is what the developing world is doing to get itself out of poverty. Our growth in the first world is slowing down but that doesn't mean that what got us here was wrong! What got us here was absolutely necessary and we need to continue to learn from that and develop new policies for the future
Pinker’s hair is too good.
What was the point of Steven Pinker even appearing on this show? It is just a relentless rant from Bill.
I always thought that the media didn't mention good news because it isn't click bait.
Bill I love you but you gotta let the guy speak some more.
NUKE
Hans Rosling is turning in his grave. He was making these points for 20 years.
That's awesome. We need to hear more about the good news :)
7 out of 10 people will share a negative experience while only 3 of 10 will share a positive one.
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It is a contest between Bill and Chris Matthews on MSNBC as to who dominates the conversation most during interviews. Both of them clearly like the sound of their respective voices.
rainguynw Chis Matthews is worse.I can’t watch him.
I agree. Defeats the purpose.
By far the most advanced human I follow. Study his work.
Let Him Speak !!!!
4:30 "WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF SAND???" lolololol
Pinker’s curls are poppin!
Thank capitalist free markets for bringing people out of poverty
David Wong - And keeping them in it as impoverished nations provide cheap parts for iPhones.
+David Wong _"Thank capitalist free markets"_
Name one market in the US that can reasonably be called a 'free market?'
@kerpal3 if you dont like amazon competition is one click away.
@kerpal3 amazon is a bad example. Some industries like cable and drug companies use regulations to create monopolies which is why gov should be kept small and out of the market.
David Wong - Amazon uses its inordinate power to crush competition. Where is the competition?
On climate change NEVER EVER did I ever have maggots in my house.
Except for this year, that heat on the garbage in my kitchen gave me loads of maggots!!! Garbage pickup is only once a week.
Keep food scraps in a container in the refrigerator until garbage day. Not ideal, but it's how I quelled a fruit fly invasion these past two weeks.
Steven doing his best Fran Lebowitz
I know this is a side point but that run in the beginning was hilarious
Jesus has Bill forgotten what it is to interview someone ffs shut up and listen for once!!!
definitely79 Bill can't help himself! He knows best!
So glad Pinker finally showed up here
STEVEN PINKER HAS THE BEST HAIR IN SCIENCE.
I'm still living in 200years ago . I'm flat broke.
Էմմանուել Էզենվան Մեղր See but people in New Delhi live in poverty instead of extreme poverty so what do you know, Pinker is freeing you.
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You've obviously got internet though, so your probably better off all things considering.
And yet you have internet access
You people are talking about internet access like he has a T1 connection. It's 2018
Armenian letters and nigerian name?
"Are you in favour...?"
Tough question to ask a politician right after that talk. Must be hard to say no after that setup.
serenity now !
lets blame everything on trump
I wish someone with a backbone would say to one of these progressive morons "lets not keep on trying to divert every single topic back to this RIDICULOUSLY oversimplified one-dimensional omnipotent bogeyman"
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The only thing that’s changed is access to information and immediacy of bad news reaching your hand.
What's the point of a guest if Bill is the only one talking?
Oh, now that was hell of an interview...hey ?
if Bill could only shut up for a second and let the expert talk...love Pinker!
Dude has a haircut like he's from the actual Great Enlightenment 😂😂
I completely agree with Pinker in general terms. The problem for me is his tendency to don't accept exceptions to his rules. The fact is the man never had the ability to destroy the full world as now has, even the violence in general has indeed decreased. He should integrate that concept in his general theory in a more elegant way.
He does something similar in the blank slate book when he denies the influence of the parents to a great extend. Yes, parents are only a fragment, and probably not the biggest of what will become the personality of the children but he minimizes their importance too much.
Can Bill not get through a whole 5 minutes without saying the word Trump???
I like how the entitled black guy didn't want to believe anything Pinker had to say, he could feel his victim-hood credits dissolving away, so he took over Pinker's time with pointless stories, good thing they cut it out. Pinker should have been the interview guest.
Ooh .... Pinker's a new Dr. Pangloss. I agree with Bill.
And all that progress in our country is in large part due to regulations that Twitler is now tearing to pieces.
Yay
Steven can not convince me to treat the average Liberal or Conservative as anything other than an extreme threat to my existence.
11/10 hair my dude.
Actually honeybees are recovering. It's native bees that are in trouble.
Brilliant, deft work by Bill who eviscerates Pinker swiftly and thoroughly with his two points: nukes and pollution - all the while leaving Pinker to think it was a friendly interview. Among Bill's best interviews.
Every time I see Pinker I just immediately picture him as an older Allen Kurzweil.
the guy at the end lol
Pinker is amazing .... read his books
I’m so happy Bill said what he said at 5:24
EXACTLY! That's why there are too many people.
Let's tax everything just for the sake of taxing = Carbon tax plan
Gorgeous head of hair. What I wouldn't give to have hair that full and healthy looking, clean and attractive!
Pinker's underlying goal is to provide a counter voice to shows like Real Time, which perpetuate negativity much like all news outlets, and in doing so Maher managed to speak over him with pure negativity - the irony is uncanny.
Exactly! The constant negative conditioning by big-media could top even nukes and polution, because problems wont be fixed by those who are conditioned to be negative, desensitized to tragedy, and feel hopeless, after every news broadcast.
LET THE GUESTS SPEAK!
Hours opinion, like his hair, is amazing
Cool monologue
Great hair.
A must read book for those that want to become well informed about the real world, supported by statistics, as oppossed to those who believe that fiction should be the guiding light instead of science and common sense.
or nukes and climate change... humans use to die in the climate without any change
"What? Me worry?"
*Invites public intellectual knowledgeable, informed and in possession of statistics and scientific studies*
Doesn't let him speak for longer than one half a sentence...
Many many improvements without a doubt. At the same time there are so many interconnected dependencies across the world now with food, trade, resources and power supplies that things seem more fragile at the same time. Any problem can have a massive ripple effect.
I wish they showed the part where he shuts down D.L. Hugley with facts and reason.
The EU is not breaking up, get your facts straight.
Shit I'm.worried about the sand crisis now
Bill, why isn’t the American gun violence crisis mentioned on your list.
There's no carbon tax? What the hell does he think cap and trade is?
I'd love it if Bill would have just let Professor Pinker actually talk for a little while. I know it's his show, but I really wish he'd be more generous with the floor when he has a guest.
Why having guests if you are not going to let them talk
A problem-solving juggernaut makes a rare appearance and the time is spent by the host complaining about problems instead of LISTENING
issue fatigue is not a thing if you have a comprehensive analysis
The problem is that carbon dioxide (not carbon) (CO2 v. C) is not a molecule that heats up the planet once and then says my job is done. CO2 can last for up to 800 before it eventually ends up breaking up into carbon and O2. When we put CO2 in the atmosphere it is like hiring a robotic worker to heat the planet up and this robot will work 24 hours a day until retirement in 600-800 years. So even if we completely stopped emitting CO2 right now, 100 percent completely, all the robots out there would be heating the planet up for still hundreds of years. So, a carbon tax (which should be called a carbon dioxide tax because a carbon tax is just plane stupid because everything around us is made up of carbon), would not change a damn thing for hundreds of years. See all those fires in California that are being caused by global warming? Yep, those fires are putting more carbon dioxide in the air, just more factory workers to heat up the planet. And these growing amount of fires will keep adding more workers for hundreds of years even if we stopped emitting C02 today. So what can we do? We need to find solutions to take CO2 out of the atmosphere, and there are great ideas. But the one thing that really works well (trees), is being destroyed. Deforestation keeps happening at an alarming rate, and no one is crying about that. Yet stopping deforestation is one step that will work. This stupid "carbon" tax is a lame duck.
Plenty of people are crying about deforestation. While I appreciate your CO2 summary, don't forget Methane and other greenhouse gasses. Methane is far more potent now, even though it doesn't last as long.
Rusty June, after reading all the comments on this video, it seems pretty much everyone missed the fact that Pinker himself admits that "climate change is the biggest issue facing mankind" and agrees with Bill that we are not doing enough and "need to start" making changes. And I agree, carbon tax is a joke. Individuals need to start doing a hell of a lot more to change instead of waiting for politicians to come along and magically change things, or believing that people like Elon Musk is going to save humanity.
Where's the monologue?
This is like the time bleeding gums Murphy guest starred on The Cosby Show
OPTIMISM!
That 90% is good, but the other 10% is what bothers me. Anything bad is still unacceptable.
People want to hear him talk he should go on Rogan. This is an entertainment show. I like Bill butting in on talking heads. It's hilarious.
The ultimate problem with climate change is an increase in atmospheric and oceanic heat. Heat is energy. Is there no way to convert that into electrical energy, and by doing so lower atmospheric and oceanic temperatures?
I want to state that although yes, historically life expectancy was low, but it was mostly because of children dying, roughly one in every four children died at birth (and many did not live till the age of ten) so that significantly lowered the average. This was the case even some 130 years ago. It doesn't mean however that people died in their thirties en masse, life expectancy once you reached the age of ten was around 50-58 depending on your location. It's still is much lower than the todays average (especially in the West) but still, it has to be said.
There is a detailed answer of Max Roser which shows that there is more to the increase in life expectancy than child mortality decline www.maxroser.com/gains-for-all-life-expectancy-by-age/. e.g. UK Life expectancy at age of 10 in 1845 was 57 and is now 82. That means, in average, 53 days gained per year for 169 years ! This is life expectancy at age of ten, to be compared to life expectancy at birth which has grown by 89 days per year. Roughly, child mortality decline contributes by 40% (36 d) to overall Life Expectancy progress (89 d). Will you consider that?
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Flaw compels action in life, not serenity. We continue to live because we know it is good, but that is not why we get out of bed each day. We do that because we are not satisfied. Thank you, Mr. Pinker, for recalling how much the actions of those before us have served to advance these causes for good, but we take it upon ourselves to continue where they left off rather than rest upon their laurels. We will consider our problems before our privileges; we will not become complacent.
Better ≠ enough.
Ergo, vis a vis, CONCORDANTLY.
Are we not taxed enough? Income tax, social security tax(because they are never going to give us our money back), gasoline tax, sales tax, property tax, and now a carbon tax? Who is going to pay for that? And how is that exactly going to solve the problem? The carbon tax is just going to hurt the poor and middle class. Not only will the corporations pass their carbon taxes to the consumers, but those same consumers will be taxed for their every day normal activities. So the carbon tax will be a double slap in the face to the most vulnerable in this country. How can anyone be on board with this?