Yeah, I know I went too deep into Mormon cosmology with this one. Honestly, I’m not super happy with this video. But let’s not have perfect be the enemy of a meal time video that you can watch while on the toilet. Nuances/Edits: The temple shown at 6:39 is part of a different denomination of the Latter Day Saints movement.
I thought this was a great video. The Mormon church is super interesting to me and I thought you captured the unsettling vibe super well. I’ve always wanted to know what was in the church and the narrative throughout was super well told.
@@Pr0toPoTaT0 I know it....too smooth. I watched quite a bit until I realized it was an ad. Former Mormon here of 40 years, til I found out it's all a sham. Based on lies.
Because it is😂, it is lifted from Tolkien’s Lord of the rings. If you watch the Lord of the Rings: The fellowship of the ring, it is literally the first thing you see😊
@@STUDENT-ch4ch Did you notice the Washington DC Temple is the exact shape of Sauron's Crown? Between that and the ring of power thing mid video makes me wonder did Tolkien copy Mormonism or vice versa?
I'm an active member of the church, and to anyone wondering, this video is mostly factually correct. Well done, it's obvious you did your research. Just a couple notes from me: 1) The only issue I take with this video is the uncanny atmosphere that the background music and lighting cast sometimes. While I certainly understand why some might find our doctrines peculiar at first, I think that those elements try to project conclusions about the Church onto the audience that the facts being presented wouldn't themselves inspire. 2) We think of what happens in the temple as "sacred" more than "secret." These ordinances involve us making promises and commitments to God and our family members that are very important to us, and which we would prefer not to be spoken of trivially or disrespectfully. 3) This video presents the doctrine of deification in a very ambitious, power-obsessed light. It paints a picture of members manically salivating over the thought "We CaN BecOME GOdS!!!" I agree that attitude would be un-Christian, and I'm happy to report that it's essentially non-existent in the church. While I think it makes sense theologically that we, as children of a loving Heavenly Father, should have the potential to eventually become like our Father, I'm personally far more motivated by the prospect of being able to be with my wife and children for eternity. Heaven would not be heaven without them. The doctrine of deification is talked about far more by critics of the church than by it's members, and in a far more irreverent attitude. 4) To those who think doing baptism or other ordinances for the dead violates the free will of the deceased, we believe that these ordinances are an offering or an opportunity made available to them, which they can choose to accept to reject. This is also a biblically based practice. The early saints in Corinth did this as well during the time that Paul wrote his epistle to them. (1 Corinthians 15:29) Again, well done on the video. You've been far more fair than most UA-camrs who talk about us.
@@nonautemrexchristus5637We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dicates of our own conscience and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how where and what they may. You are free to believe that and say that, but there are christians worldwide who cannot practice what they believe and that is a little bit more important that you attacking someone for what they believe.
Its fortress architecture much like how embassies are built. This is because the Mormon Church is a shell corp of the CIA and the Vaults within it contain their physical holdings of Precious Metals. CIA itself is an arm of the Vatican and nicknamed the ‘Catholic Intelligence Agency’. The Directors are all members to the Sovereign Military Order of Malta, while the ‘white collar’ is Catholic and the ‘blue collar’ is Mormon. They like Mormons for their cult like behavior and ability to keep a secret. They’re also less stigmatic in foreign countries compared to the long history of Catholics/Protestant Imperialism and Evangelical profiteering, so they are used for OCONUS Operations which their Missionaries are guised as. This is why the Mormon Church is officially valued at $100B, and unofficially valued at $200B. It’s also why they have oil refineries under management in Nigeria.
Alot if it, at least in the early days, was based on Masonic temples. I don't know how much it is now but the floor plans of Kirkland, Nauvoo and SLC are extremely similar to Masonic temples
I went to the Boise temple open house out of curiosity. I'm ex-Mormon, born again in the Baptist church. I found the temple to be a lot like a nice hotel, fake printed art, chandeliers and all. You would think since they have all those billions of $$$ that they could afford real art, or have their member who are artists do the art. So anyway, it didn't give me the desire to return to the "fold."
I think the ideas of the church in general are good and certainly the teachings of the Gospel are true, even if not fully understood or accepted by many. At least I would say the Lion's share is absolutely true. I do understand that there are people like in any church that would not be a good example of what the gospel teaches them to be or what their doctrine teaches them.
There are people who give the Mormons a bad name, but I feel like it's just supposed to be about loving and accepting your neighbor, like Mormons were the first people to give women the right to vote in the United States and people don't know about polygamy or understand it fully but a lot of the time women could not own property unless they were married and since many of the male saints died due to persecution including the females. There were a lot of people in need of spouses. So a lot of these people would get married to multiple women that they've never met and they will never meet. They are just so that they can have rights, it would be like if your mom married the neighbor during Nazi Germany so that they didn't take her as a Jew and she was protected.
Utah was the first state to give women the right to vote. Look it up. This was basically Mexico at the time and no one wanted to come here. That's how badly they were. Persecuted
@@Luz-rm6joyou mean like when Joseph Smith was digging up Native American burial grounds and selling relics with his dad? The time he ran away with a woman without the father’s permission and married her? When he started a bank, backed out of accountability and then scammed Ohio locals out of their life savings and never made amends? On and on it goes - read No Man Knows My History
Practicing church member here - your fantastic 3D models and straightforward narration with unexpected humor are what attracted me to your channel in the first place. Overall the stylistic choices though felt darker than they needed to be, more bleak and nefarious than your typical straightforward, clean aesthetic. I can 100% understand the curiosity and mystery that so many feel about an unusual building with restricted access. I also respect the varied experiences people have had with the church and I don’t hold their opinions against them, all of humanity is trying to make the most of whatever cards they are dealt and sort out their own experiences and it’s not easy for any of us. What you experience is a function of both what happens to you and your own interpretation of those events, I can’t speak for others experience but I’ll share my own. My own experiences within temple walls have varied but I can unequivocally say that within the temple I have experienced peace, guidance and inspiration that have been invaluable to my life. Our faith is centered in Jesus Christ and like all christians we find hope, peace and guidance in his teachings and example. Even from an academic point of view Christ’s role in our theology and temple worship would have been worth including. I don’t pray to or worship Joseph Smith or any other prophet, in the temple I am focused on my Savior, my relationship with God and how I can live as Jesus did within my own circle of influence. For me temple worship is not dark or mysterious. In fact temples are generally very bright (look up photos of temple interiors online, they usually have large bright chandeliers in the middle of large rooms). Like all human beings members of the Church of Jesus Christ are imperfect, flawed and looking for something. While some may not have found it within our church, within temple walls, there are millions who have and I’m immensely grateful for the impact temple worship has had on my life.
@@CuratedCars yeah this was really funny to watch, because there wasn’t anything that was incorrect it was just really dark and the phrasing was intentionally painting an unflattering image. Like “scavenging” family records- not wrong just maybe not the most accurate word choice. It kinda paints a desperate search when usually it’s quite casual. Just funny stuff like that
@@tarakivu8861 Christ called his followers his sheep, there is no shame there. Power or influence isn’t wrong, how it’s used is what matters. I can’t speak for your experience though, I’m sorry if you have had negative experiences with the church, no one from top to bottom is perfect.
@@CamronHowell agreed, the “war chest” description was another one. There were some minor inaccuracies but that’s going to happen. Telling the story from the perspective of “Harris Johnson” set the stage. You could make someone’s Grandma seem dark and mysterious with an approach like this 😆 Credit where credit is due the 3D model of the temple was impressive though.
@@tarakivu8861I have met members of the church who have chosen to leave but decided to come back. In my life and in theirs they have been much happier following Christ in the church when compared to being out of the church.
The whole experience of feeling nothing is close to what happened to me. When you turn 8 you get baptized and get a blessing to receive the holy ghost. I distinctly remember being excited to feel the holy ghost for the first time like all of my older mormon friends described, but I felt nothing and it scared me, so I always lied that I did feel it. I thought that when I got the priesthood at 12 I would feel it. I went to 3 different temples, including Salt Lake and Nauvoo, to do baptisms for the dead and felt nothing. For years I thought something was wrong with me, I had nightmares about going to outer darkness. I prayed every day trying to feel anything until I was 16 and stopped going to church, but I didn't truly lose my faith until I really looked into church history when I was 20. Now I just feel like I wasted my entire childhood and teenage years fearing something that wasn't there. It really deeply affected my mental health for a long time.
it's truly relieving once you realise too, I stopped going around 16 too and been much freer since, leaning about the church history really opened my eyes
I had a similar time too, it didn't help that I was taught the "Deep Doctrines" i.e. all the messed up or really weird things the church believes but does not teach nowadays to the general Mormon audience yet has not stopped holding as truth and defending as right.
@@stevenroberts3531 Have an example? I’ve never really had first hand experience with any mormons. I have a fairly surface level understanding of what mormons believe but not enough context to know what the “crazy” stuff would entail. Just curious lol
I'm an active member of the church, and I thought the video was fairly accurate. There were a few things that weren't quite right, but for the most part that's a good explanation of the more complex aspects of our religion. The dark undertone was kind of retracting from the beliefs. Something you've got to realize is that religion is built on faith, a video on youtube should not be your source for answers about the universe. But if it sparks a curiosity to discover for yourself what you believe, I'd say take a peek down that road. Go talk to some lds missionaries, they love sharing this gospel and will share all they can!
I'm a lifelong member of the church and my faith has waxed and waned throughout my life. At times I've been an implacable believer, at others basically an atheist. The temple is where I always felt something even when I thought none of it was true. A sense of awe and a sacred sense of grandeur. There is something magical about being in such a space performing ritual worship, at least to me. I still participate in the church and consider myself a believer now, but many of the particulars of my faith are quite heterodox and would probably raise a few eyebrows if brought up in Sunday School. Anyway, this was a quality video. Keep up the good work.
I didn't realize how much of a cult LDS was until this video. It's like Scientology mixed with Christianity. PEOPLE please just Accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior. If you truly believe in the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus Christ, you WILL be saved. "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 (NIV) "For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith-and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God- not by works, so that no one can boast." Ephesians 2:8-9 (NIV) "If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved." Romans 10:9 (NIV)
@@machine123e456 We.. do accept Christ as our Lord and Savior? He is the way, the truth, and the life. There is no way other than Christ to salvation. He is the lynchpin to the entire Plan of Salvation; without His great and perfect sacrifice, none of us could return to be with Heavenly Father.
@@machine123e456 You might be pleased to know that even the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints stands at risk of God's judgements for treating the Book of Mormon lightly. But it is easier to attack something you are ignorant of with a word that you are ignorant of the meaning of, history or its application.
As an ex Mormon who served a mission I'm impressed at how accurate you spoke about the plan of salvation. It brought back a lot of memories both good and mostly bad.
@@SirReginaldBumquistIII “Dad, why am I named Rose?” “Because when you were born, a rosebud fell on your head.” “Dad, why am I named Lilly?” “Because when you were born, a Lilly bud fell on your head.” “JESUS WAS A GAY VOODOO HIPPY!!!1!” “Oh, hey brick.”
This is WILD! Yesterday I saw a Mormon church that looked like it came from Disney Land and my father and I were trying to figure out what it was... Today you release this
(ExCatholic not Mormon)Leaving religion is hard for so many reasons. The ending made me a little teary because I remember how safe I felt thinking that, no matter what, I would be reunited with family after death and that heaven was going to be better than anything I could possibly imagine. I find a lot of peace from nature and learning more about other animals and natural processes. Thanks for listening I needed to share
@@AbbiZika ...Our Father in Heaven blesses ALL His children; always has, always will...my grandmother has been in my dreams lately, & I know she is happy - I know resurrection is real, & JESUS CHRIST, the Savior of the world, died for us & was the First Resurrection...we WILL be with our family members again...
@@Lovecatholicfaith Same. Born and raised LDS in California and moved to UT in 2016 to try and improve my LDS testimony. Instead I left their evil faith, thanks be to God.
The Washington Temple is pretty iconic as it's right next to the highway that leads to DC so you see it often. I even got to go inside to the sort of lobby as I had Mormon friends, though I myself am Catholic.
Mr Hoog: the cosmology is a huge part of not just Mormon imagery (visit temple square and you will see it everywhere- not surrounding the Christus statue and carved in granite on the outside walls all around the temple), it is imprinted on the mental processes of every Mormon through their temple rituals. So going “too deep into cosmology” is nearly impossible. I moved from Holland when I was 18 to do my two year mission in England. Then ended up at BYU, worked at their MTC in Provo, worked at the church office in Slc, sang with Mormon tabernacle choir, etc etc. Nothing in your video was over-stated or wrong, compliments on your summary. What struck me, something that never occurred to me, is how the religion is all centered ultimately on FOMO. Ik moet zeggen, ben blij dat ik eruit ben gestapt, die ketenen waren zwaar.
@@stellviahohenheim As an Ex-Mormon, it’s not that they’re necessarily gullible it’s that the church is extremely controlling. They tell members not to read anti-mormon literature or any church history stuff not put out by the church, so unless members do their own research outside of the official channels like I did they’ll have no idea about the sketchy shit the church does. Anyone can fall for a cult.
As a member of the LDS church (mormon) I have to say, this is definetely one of the more unbiased videos I've seen on our religion. Thank you. Many like to paint our religion as a "cult" just because we do ordinances and stuff, when in reality we are a pretty regular religion. The Catholic, Hindu and Jewish churches also do "rituals", but for some reason, everyone likes to overlook what they do. (not saying they have weirder practices than we do, just to clarify)
The issue is that you claim to be Christian, but *_very_* blatantly aren't. As such, you are considered a cult by most Christians. Mormonism is essentially an American version of Islam. Simple as.
@@tracienielson7183 no like a cult of cultists. With rituals and secrecy everyone finds it strange. If you look up the definition of cult this would be a lot easier.
@@jamietomas1550 Nope. Outsiders finding our practices strange does not make us a cult. This discussion proves the lack of secrecy. It does prove that people are rude, flippant, and disrespectful to things they don't understand but feel qualified to bash anyway.
@hoogyoutube "Mormon" (Latter-day Saint) here. Loved the video. Very well-produced and cool art direction in general. Some clarifications: • We don't believe the temple signs/tokens prove you're "Mormon." (They're simply symbolic reminders of the covenants we make). • In the vast majority of temples, you don't progress from room to room during the Endowment (it's a presentation shown all in the same room). • You implied that those asexual or gay will necessarily miss out on the highest heaven. This isn't a teaching within the Church. LDS prophets have consistently taught that those who never had a chance for a temple marriage/sealing in this life *will* have the opportunity in the spiritual post-mortal realm (before final judgment). • The choice of music and the doubting, Johny Harris-esque character narrative is clearly meant to sensationalize, but I don't fault you for that. But these leads me to my next point... • The idea of becoming Gods is a bit heavy-handed. We *do* believe we can become like God (and be creators in some sense, if not only to continue reproducing) but we don't believe we ever become Saviors or that we in any way replace God the Father or his Son Jesus Christ.
They actually do believe that LDS become their own Gods, but it's a teaching reserved for those who are deeper into Mormonism and/or for those who have read about it. It's not taught very openly at first, but it is still on the books. It's definitely in the older books.
Should also point out that we dont take living persons "names" to the temple either. This work is done for those family members and populice who have passed on. One cant just go... "Oh James Earl Jones passed away... Im gonna go do temple work for him. It doesn't work like that.
@@stevencall3968 stop lying to people, it's not just for family members. They will put a bunch of names on the list then you go and get 'baptized' on their behalf. They will absolutely put down names that you have not heard of
Elmer has really set the standard in the space! Besides from the visuals which are always amazing, the storytelling and sound design are always so good.
They do open houses for every temple being built now. It has become a common practice after renovations. I went through such an open house in Arizona when I was a little child, and took my children through the same one when it went through renovations again. I also took them through the nearby Gilbert temple when it had its open house.
I work in a masonry company that does stone façades for them. I’ve been on six different temple constructions now and ‘though I’m not a member, it’s kinda cool that you were part of the constructions.
That ad is probably the best one I've seen on UA-cam. Insane that even your ads are so well made. Just discovered your channel and I'm very glad I did. Keep up the good work!
Current Mormon here. I’m really impressed on how you described the plan of salvation and baptisms for the dead. It’s really nice to see an outside view that’s very respectful of things that are very important to me. Our religion is way more complex than a lot of Christianity, so it can get confusing trying to explain these things to my friends. I will say though that a lot of the topics in this video are kept secret out of reverence for God and Jesus, so telling the details of them could offend Mormons. I don’t think most would hold it against you, as you’re not Mormon lol, but if anyone does get upset that would be why.
Everything in the temple that we don't specifically commit to not sharing is fair game. The procedural stuff is fine so long as it is treated with respect.
I prefer to say that with the knowledge comes a responsibility, and carelessness with that knowledge brings about condemnation. People are asked to stay out till they are ready to take the promises that come with this knowledge seriously and respect.
@@Persun_McPersonson, with some knowledge comes a certain level of responsibility. If you know, but do not do, or take such knowledge with flippancy, you could face the same condemnation that Jesus told of the goats in Matthew 25. So it is more for your protection more than anything else.
@@Charistoph Except you have no justified reason to believe that to be the case, so I'm calling your bluff and reiterating that knowledge should be free.
The thing about Outer Darkness is that it is merely a contingency for people who have a perfect knowledge of God (which 99% of us will only ever get in the afterlife) and still want to deny his grace, God will force nobody to heaven.
@@AKAK-rh7lrdo you mean, were they steeped in a Judaeo-Christian society? Or are you implying that there exist no converts and membership is strictly hereditary?
@@Billsbob how tf is he implying that people can't convert to religion? can you actually read or do you just see buzz words and immediately start attacking people?
Indeed. A good comparison is the fate of Lucifer who became Satan and led a third of the host of heaven astray. Lucifer stood in as perfect knowledge of the Father and Christ and rejected it completely. Those who are ignorant or innocent of such have nothing to worry about such a fate.
17:50 - the end.... Dang dude... Got me sitting here fighting back tears. Up untill 2022 I didnt even have the slightest emontial reaction that would come anywhere near tears. But November 2022 my grandfather passed. Never had a great relationship with him, didnt really meet him until I was 10 when my mother and I moved states. We lived with him and my step-grandmother, his way of showing love and affection was different from what I had ever known or could understand. About a year or so living with them my mother and I got our own place moved out and I hardely ever talked to him. Early 2022 im 16 then (So yes, 18 now) he and my step-grandmother visited my mother and I, they were going around the country visiting all the family because he has dealt with cancer and various other health issues for quite some time and he decided no more medication and treatment. So they were visting everyone while they could for the final time with him. I made damn sure to spend the week and a half they were here talking to him as much as I could, being around him, showing him appriciation and love the most I could, making the best time I could with him. After they left here they were on their way to the next family memeber but ended up going back home due to his health. They had many more people planned to go see but we ended up being the final ones. In November he was in their home with a nurse that was staying with them to take care of them as he was pretty much stuck in bed to monitors and such. The night of the 11th my mother was at work and I get a call clearly had been crying for some time and she told me that my grandfather was pretty much in a coma and they didnt expect him to make it through the night. Being the amazing but stubborn man he was he wanted to prove everyone wrong and made it until I bealive around 4Am the next morning when he was officaly decalred then dead. Since that night anything that involves family its just different from anything ive ever felt before. The amount of regrett I have for not talking to him more, spending more time with him. How I wish I could redo it all just to have just a little bit more time with him, just a little bit better of a connection but he's just gone. He was cremated and I have some of his ashes in a nice little necklace which has Grandpa *His last name, I rather not share because yea* I wear it all the time since I got it. The only times I have ever taken it off are for X-Rays when I had to. Anytime im having a bad day I just take a few moments to sit there holding the necklace with his ashes in my hand, thinking about him, about how what ive done since would have made him proud. Later on a few months after he passed my step-grandmother told me that when they were here, some of the things I did with him was the happiest shes seen him in quite awhile and after they left he wouldnt stop talking about it. Just knowing I was able to have that impact for him though means more than I could ever imagine.
@@Davey_066-vu7eg, you will see your dear grandfather again, along with all your loved one who have passed (including pets). May God bless you and comfort you.
I have to say that I at least respect Mormonism for being creative with its theology. Lots of other denominations try so hard to be mid and pass off as approachable. Irony is that it’s much more interesting to read about religions when they try to be wild/different. But if they are wild/different, they’re not really convincing enough to turn into a scalable religion
@@hoogyoutube Just beware of the institutionalized incest that its elders have been accused of practicing according to family members who left the church.
@@hoogyoutube The funny thing about this is that the current church leadership is trying to become more mainstream and approachable, trying hard to be mid. They're trying to move away from the "Mormon" label, changing their symbol on google maps to a cross, not putting the Angel Moroni statue on new temples, and they continue to de-emphasize a lot of the doctrine mentioned in this video. They desperately want to be just another Christian denomination.
Insane? No,probably just searching.Remember this whole group was started by a dude who found golden tablets in upstate New York. I don't believe the purpose of your life is wrapped up in any of the tax exempt mumbo jumbo organizations.
Joining the cult because you want to be your own God, you will end up in hell I promise you that. Nothing based about that, but I'm sure you're the type who hates Jesus anyway.
7 views in 21seconds? Hoog must have migrated to the new city in Utah... Edit: great video! The sponsor spot was kinda funny. I wonder if the name Harris Johnson was inspired by another animated graphics explainer youtuber...
Ex-Mormon here. This is a great video! I’m honestly kinda sad that the Mormon Church is moving further and further away from…. let’s just call all of it “space stuff”… to be more palatable to modern tastes. This is the stuff that makes Mormonism so beautiful, unique, and delightfully whacky!
True. When I was still practicing I loved that stuff. It's what set us apart and I was proud of it. In their attempt to be more like and accepted by other Christians they are losing what makes them interesting and unique.
@@axoid exactly! The way I describe it to people who aren’t familiar with Mormonism is “Imagine if the Freemasons did a total corporate-minimalism resign to appeal to people who like Starbucks.” I want to live in a world where Mormons in the Marine Corps shout “FOR KOLOB!!!” before throwing a grenade. But as an atheist exmo, I get that I’m being selfish. :)
That’s a fascinating take to hear from an exmo, I’m used to people who leave saying we’re too esoteric and culty, not that we’re not esoteric enough. I see you and the other dommenter’s point, though. There’s other active members I know of that are getting tired of protestant culture seeping into church culture.
@@fidgetthecrazy I think there is a difference between culty practices that exmos might not like and the more unique doctrine that we still find fascinating. I personally always felt a little creeped out by the temple ceremonies from the very first time I went through. But the more deep/speculative doctrine stuff was always interesting to me.
@@fidgetthecrazy To be fair, I’m not sure I would have personally stayed in if it was more esoteric, but I also think these things can have profound human beauty. One of my favorite things in the world as a kid, but even more so as an Exmo atheist adult, was the Manti Pagent… I even flew out to Utah to go see the final performance! Yes, of course, the optics of white conservative people dressing up as villainous Native American Jews are horrible, but there’s also always incredible beauty whenever any group of humans band to get together to put on a divinity play… especially when they don’t have a lot of resources and money… because by definition, such works demands the highest level of passion, artistry, and selflessness imaginable. It brings out the best in people. Just think about how many grandmas sewed little lamenite costumes for their grandkids over the years! One of the most brilliant depictions of the beauty I see in things like the Manti Pagent, and LDS Esoteria at large, is at the climax of the Broadway musical “The Book of Mormon” when the Africans put on their own Divinity Play for the local Mission President (to his shock and horror! 😂) It’s played for laughs, but what makes it so damn poetic is that, for the Africans, what outsiders see as “wacky and obviously made up” is sacred, precious, and beautiful TO THEM. Not only that, their whacky new religion is the only thing that has ever worked to make their hard lives less shitty. That show is such a love letter to the Mormon Religion, and it completely changed how I thought about my own upbringing in it. So, yeah, LDS esoteria is awesome. They thought Skybeams were cool hundreds of years before the MCU put them in every movie. Hahaha.
At first, I was skeptical about finishing this video. As an active member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, I am apprehensive of warching videos like these because some people take these types of videos too far out of context. I'm glad you took some sensitivity to the sacredness of the things that are done in the temple. The church does try to make public what can be made public to remove the stigma of mystery and negative ideas of the temples. Though I thought some things were a little out of context, you got a vast majority of things pretty spot on. I see this as a learning opporutnity to people who are genuinely curious and want to learn more... of course, not everything can be said due to the sacredness of such context but if you have the opportunity to go to a temple open house during the brief window that temples are open to the public, you can learn more about why the church builds these temples and what is done within. This video was more philosophical and theoretical and I like it. I and some of my friends in the church often question each other on our own ideas and this topic quite often. Haha. It's a fun debate we have.
I spy Alyssa Grenfell's book, I highly recommend it! I am a "nevermo", just interested in the religion and culture. This was an awesome video. I respect everyone's religious beliefs and think this video was tastefully done.
This line struck me as odd "with strict rules about drinking alcohol and fellatio, Mormon's aren't the type of people who get invited to parties very often" Is getting oral sex at a party required for parties now? The no alcohol thing is real. It's not necessarily that it's just that LDS people don't get invited to those kinds of parties, but that they actively avoid them. LDS people aren't generally very comfortable around drinking or smoking or a lot of other vices. But I think the oral sex thing, which is not specifically prohibited, is sort of a silly thing to say is the reason people aren't inviting Mormons to parties. A couple other things too: I don't know that LDS doctrine is particularly any more restrictive than most any other Judeo Christian religion. There's the basic idea of a sorting. Those who have chosen and those who have not. It's not really a novel idea that there would be a day of judgement. The difference is that the LDS doctrine promotes an idea of varied levels of being. The Telestial Kingdom or the furthest from God is set out as more beautiful than imaginable. It is not a punishment but more so a reality of being. That is, where people have chosen to be. The Terrestrial Kingdom is set out as those who chose well but simply weren't willing to accept all the requirements set out by Christ. It is likely more closely associated with what the vast majority of Christianity imagines heaven being. And then the Celestial Kingdom is just a representation of those who have done all that has been required to live equally in the same existence as Heavenly Father (the preferred name for God among the LDS community). What it means is just eternal increase, or eternal progression. It's a state of being that you could potentially create your own spirit children forever and preside as you would over your own family on Earth and continue to learn, grow, and experience unendingly. The end result being that you would learn to create just as God or Jesus Christ create. The judgement of kingdoms comes after a long period in the spirit world where each individual can continue to make choices, learn, and change. There is no harsh damnation as is often times portrayed in most other Christian, Jewish, and Islamic traditions.
Solid response - WELL done 👍. LDS Doctrine teaches AND promotes the principles you've described in _just_ the *way* you describe . That each concept you discuss is DIRECTLY _Biblical_ Taught by BOTH Jesus _Himself_ , his Apostles AND the Prophets of the Old Testament as well , helps to communicate the truth of your message . VERY well done .
Dear Hoog, I’m a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. I wanted to comment on your video as it’s been mulling around in my mind since I watched it. After thinking about it for some time, I believe all I’d like to say is that I feel what you’ve said is refreshingly accurate and pretty well described. You’ve used good scriptures to back up what you’ve shared, and your video is informative. There are a few nitpicks: Members of the Church don’t tend to refer to themselves as ‘Mormons’ officially anymore; we don’t call heaven ‘Mormon Heaven’ or really anything with ‘Mormon’ in front of it anymore except for the Book of Mormon; and most all of this information isn’t really secret at all but can be found all over the Church website. I honestly could’ve looked past all of that, however your final statement towards the end about others being stuck waiting in line creates a viewpoint that I feel is inaccurate and misses the whole point of the Temple and the Endowment: none of this is possible without Jesus Christ. I don’t know your religious beliefs or background; I don’t know whether you adhere to any, so mentioning Christ may be pointless or may be important in your eyes. But Christ IS the whole point we go to the temple; it is the whole point WHY we have a temple, and WHY it’s even necessary. He was not mentioned very often in the video; without Him, all the covenants and rituals and actions in the temple are unnecessary and might even look foolish. His sacrifice, His blood, His pain was all so that we could return to God and be like Him; so that all that the Father has could be His, and through Him could also be ours. This is the whole point: the temple is available for ALL. Period. No one will miss out on that chance whether in THIS life or the life TO COME because Christ is merciful. So, if you are indeed divorced, a homosexual, or deal with any other number of scenarios that would supposedly keep you “waiting in line” outside the temple, THAT’S why Christ is central to everything -He will provide a way for you to enter IF YOU WANT TO. After all, the only reason people go in is because they WANT to. That’s why there IS no line, there’s already enough room inside. Knock and it shall be opened to you. Appreciate your reading this if you do, good luck with your channel and best wishes. -AJ_Kool101
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Hi. Ex Mormon here. I’ve been through the temple and the mysterious tone is cracking me up because I know what exactly happens in there. Good editing and tone setting btw just humorous because of my perspective.
@@sonder1309 A lot of it was ripped-off from freemasonry, yes (although the ceremony has been changed and downplayed over the years). If you are curious about what it looks like, the youtuber NewNameNoah has direct recordings of the ordinances.
@@sonder1309 I’m not a freemason but based off what I know about them it felt like it might be a watered down version of some of their rites mixed with some Mormon doctrines.
As an active, believing, practicing member of the church in question, I have to say that ad transition has sent me into a spiral of awakening. I now worship the great and powerful Odoo.
Mate. Coming from someone who normally skips straight through ads, you're a master. That one was magic and I actually went back to watch it again because I enjoyed your misdirection so much.. Well played. I've always enjoyed your videos and love what you do. Keep them coming.
First, that Ad read caught me by surprise. But I love it. Everything stated here has been accurate to my experience from when I was Mormon. Though, another thing you can't see during the pre-dedication tours, there are additional cloth hangings that separate the rooms into smaller ritual areas. Some are part of the rituals (some you shake hands through, others you pass through symbolically), the others are just to allow multiple rituals to be performed in the same room at the same time when many people come to the temple.
Member of the Church here. Pretty accurate video, but cast in very dark and ominous vibes. Some little things you got wrong but appreciate you trying to be fair.
This was an incredibly well researched video. As an active member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints I appreciate what was clearly an earnest attempt to explore our perspectives. My comments are meant to touch on some things that other members that have commented may not have. The last segment made me feel that some of your research was inspired by reddit posts and former member's commentary. Our leaders have often addressed the church about the struggles of members who are in abusive situations, struggle with their sexual identity contradicting their spiritual beliefs, and the nature of living in the world but not being of the world. If we believe in a God who gives second chances to those who have died, He will be patient with all circumstances of people now who genuinely are trying to live by His Gospel. The last segment had a tinge of what someone ranted about online rather than the previously well researched content. Often there's personal feelings attached to leaving the church, it's difficult for many and there can be a biased attempt to make us seem more cultish and secretive than we really are. My immediate first thought when you started the video and discussed the "secret nature" of our faith I laughed and remembered as a missionary knocking on doors and discussing our "secrets" with total strangers daily. One thing that should be made a bit clearer is that the Temples are meant to be the "House of the Lord", which is the main reason they're different than regular churches. The expense that is taken to build these incredibly beautiful buildings is meant to honor the Lord. Each temple is built to reflect the local people because we are all children of god. One thing that I absolutely love about the temple clothes is it erases class and circumstances. When you enter the temple, there's none of the worldly distinctions. I've met people of all nationalities and walks of life in them. I'm currently in Korea and can go to the temple and experience the same ordinances that are back in the States. I know there are some who don't feel anything, but I've felt deep and powerful feelings of peace and comfort.
I feel like your clarifications are well put and needed! However, I also think that those “Reddit exmormon”-esque comments are likely placed strategically to provide an alternative view when considering the faith (much like the Thomas Paine piece he included when talking about Joseph Smith). Though the church has responded to some of those concerns/comments, the grievances exist nonetheless. Given the church’s stance on personal revelation too, it can simply come down to a matter of theological/philosophical perspective in a few of those cases. I have been on both sides of those debates, so I understand how both views can see the other one as poorly researched - but at the end of the day no one has claim to more truth than the other until God comes down and spells it out himself.
@@RoseanneSeason7 If you would ever like an open and civil discussion about whether or not my church is a cult please let me know and I'll happily provide a point of contact. I've heard all the arguments, if you have something new to tell me I'm open to the novelty of the experience.
@@tyleryoung6360 One thing that puzzles me is the concept of your followers turning into God's. The Bible literally expresses many times that there isn't any other God but God himself. Deuteronomy 4:39: “Know therefore this day, and lay it to your heart, that the LORD is God in heaven above and on the earth beneath; there is no other.” Isaiah 44:8: “Before me no god was formed, nor shall there be any after me.” Isaiah 44:24: “I am the LORD, who made all things, who stretched out the heavens alone, who spread out the earth-Who was with me?” Isaiah 45:5: “I am the LORD, and there is no other, besides me there is no God.”
i've been here, lived near it my whole life. there are paintings of jesus EVERYWHERE. every single wall in every single hallway. they're all in essentially the same style, same artist, same themes. sometimes it's jesus with people of various races, sometimes it's joseph smith. they opened it up for tours briefly in 2022, and i attended with my high school class. the guides are very friendly and there are docents everywhere. we didn't get to see every room, but saw the baptism pool and some of the rooms used in the marriage process.
Honestly... I had never really delved deep into what Mormonism is, or what they believed... all I had ever heard was the "cooky" way it was created... but... this video makes me think it's actually quiet a beautiful way to view the world. The more you know.
It’s a really fantastic religion. I no longer am a member, but once you get past some of the oddities it really is a very well intentioned religion with great folks at the helm and a very merciful theology.
I dated an ex Mormon who escaped being the son of a bishop in Salt Lake City thanks to Reddit. He went to law school clear across the country (DC) and told me lots of horror stories about the cult. He almost died of strep on his mission trip at 18 because they didn't let him get medical care.
love the video, I think that was the greatest ad I've ever seen. It was soo good I barely noticed i was watching an ad and once I did I didn't mind watching the rest. Keep it up can't wait for the next video!
As an Active member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, or "Mormon," I appreciate the accuracy and honesty with which you portrayed us. I'm only disappointed that the video followed a man who lost his faith, since that seemed to give the video a negative outlook on what you so respectfully shared otherwise.
I appreciate the unbiased nature of the video but from my education of lds teachings and practices regardless if you believe in the religion there are several inaccuracies in this video just in the first few minutes. Good video but take it with a grain of salt.
You can make even the most common things sound spooky with the right tone and music. Most devout members do not do all of the rituals in one day. They do not start in the baptistry and work their way up. Members do 10 or 20 baptisms of names etc rather than one at a time.
As an exmormon who used to work in the temple (thus, I attended weekly for a year) this was perfect. Also, I did my internship working on Odoo 😂 This whole thing is a flashback to my Mormon college experience.
Should label the Community of Christ (RLDS) temple as not being LDS. I also feel tithing should be mentioned here as a prerequisite for the temple recommend.
I HEARD THE TRUE KINGDOM DOSENT HAVE HERACHY, BESIDES THE ULTIMATE CREATOR And christ himself (sorry stupid caps) and also if "tiething" is requred, ofton to a very wealthy church wouldent the true christ want you to tith to one that needs it most like homeless or a small struggling church?
@@NightmareRex6 i hEaRd Yes, God is a God of sacrifices from the very beginning to today. No true faith should pretend like sacrifice doesn't matter. Never once have I or anyone I know regretted paying Tithing even in the worst straights, the blessings have compensated more than the loss (even directly in the financial department at times). It's 10% of your INCREASE. If you make 0 you pay 0, if you make only 100$ a month you pay only 10$. Meanwhile your Taxes are taking half or more even if you don't know it. The only people who genuinely can't afford 10% are people who are spending recklessly acting like their paycheck will disappear if they don't and live beyond their means. It's often the poor who can most afford it, while upper low to middle class and upper middle people will spend too much chasing luxuries or getting scared of number of $ even though it's the same 10% as it was when they made less.
@@NightmareRex6 You should research what this "wealthy church" does with it's tithing money. Our charitable and reliefs efforts are extensive. It's also expensive building and maintaining the churches and temples. Money is not acquired for the sake of wealth. It's acquired to do God's work.
Your animation style is super badass. The 3D renderings are beautiful. The old 70s-80s style vector graphics and voice over like at 11:35 are super cool. I would love to see you do something similar for Orthodox, Catholic, Lutheran, and Islamic places of worship and cosmology. Your channel has so much potential! Beyond cosmology and places of worship, you could do this for technical things like the Saturn V rocket, Tokamak reactors, and really anything else humans have built. I would love to see more! You have a new subscriber.
I was raised in this religion and I can tell you it’s pretty crazy walking into one of these buildings. They put a lot of work and money into making it look flawless. And everything is WHITE. im talking like porcelain or confectioner sugar level white. The clothes you wear, the carpet, the curtains the wallpaper even the light switches. All white. As a Mormon child, you take a lot of youth “temple trips” to do baptisms for the dead. You’re told that you’ll feel a sense of peace and “rightness” as in, “this is where I’m supposed to be. This is the right choice” you’re told you’ll feel the Holy Ghost. I didn’t feel any of those things. I mainly felt extreme anxiety and nervousness. And I was restless as all get out. When you enter a temple it’s a very quiet and reserved atmosphere. There’s almost no talking unless it’s being done by a temple worker during the instructional session (when they tell you where to go, who to go to if you get lost or separated from your group, etc) or the person giving the prayer or doing the baptisms. And even then it isn’t loud, it’s done in a very hushed tone. I couldn’t sit still or keep my eyes down during the “contemplation” part of The session. If I felt anything, it was a desire to be back outside. I was itchy and had hot flashes 😂 so after, when I was asked by my mom what the experience was like and if I “felt the spirit” I lied and told her yeah it was really cool.
I can understand. It may be hard often to "feel the spirit" when inside of the temple. As an LDS member, I can tell you that it is hard for me to feel the spirit sometimes while in the temple. What I found was I can feel it better when I think of why I am there, and also when I "let go" of the earthly thoughts inside of my head, and think of Jesus Christ. I can often feel peace when I do that.
Again and again, I can watch ad like those all day, creative, aesthetic and useful. Please UA-cam, don't let ad about men shouting at me that I should shave agressively my beard twice an hour, or women telling me I should wear their favorite sanitary plug
I think it was late 70's or early 80's we toured the Tabernacle next to DC. Yeah it was amazing to see! I've lived around 40 miles from it most of my life. You can get a pretty good look from the beltway. Beautiful building for sure!
I've never commented on a video but I felt I should here. Everyone has at least one thing in their lives that they hold close to their hearts and are very protective of. Many people, including myself and likely many of you reading, view family and friends that way. So, when opinions or interpretations of those things we deeply care about are shared---particularly negative or incorrect ones---we often feel the desire to defend those things, and we may realize the importance of thorough research on the things other people deeply care about so that they don't have the same experience. In addition to my family and friends, I hold my faith very close to my heart, and my faith happens to be something that many in the media and online share many opinions and interpretations of. I say all this because perhaps some of you who are reading, even if you are atheists or not members of my faith, can empathize with that feeling of protectiveness over something you care deeply about that I feel when I see someone's interpretation of my beliefs. I appreciate you taking the time to respectfully explain what we believe, @hoogyoutube. I know it is hard to adequately explain a belief system that you don't personally believe (especially with the level of depth you attempted 😄), but I think you did a good job of fairly approaching the topic without obvious bias or disdain for my faith or its followers. That said, I will say that while many basic facts about our beliefs you described were accurate (i.e. the existence of ordinances such as baptisms for the dead, the general big picture of each step of the Plan of Salvation, etc.), as I'm sure you suspected, there were several inaccuracies. My automatic desire is to defend and correct. However, I'm not going to give a minute-by-minute fact-check of everything in the video in this comment. But I do want to remind people to pause and take this video with a grain of salt, and think about how you wish people would approach you when someone gives a slightly inaccurate interpretation or opinion about something you deeply care about. Maybe you'd wish they asked you questions rather than stuck with assumptions. Maybe you'd wish they did some research of their own. This video is a good starting point for discussion, so I also want to open up the comment section to any of those who may have a desire to respectfully ask questions or develop a clearer understanding of what we believe. That's all. Sorry for the length. Thank you again, @hoogyoutube, for your desire to fairly explain my faith.
I grew up Mormon, made some bad choices in the churches eyes as a teen and wasn't very active. I was supposed to go through the whole process of being temple worthy again, but I left the church before that happened. They really put pressure on being temple worthy to live your best life. They told stories of enlightenment to us children but never told us the real process. This is the MOST I've ever learned about the process. This is a very good educational video, as I was always curious but glad I never went.
As a believing Latter-Day Saint from Germany, I have to wonder where some of that mystery comes from. We have about 70.000 missionaries in the word, great Websites and tons of resources about the temple (not mentioning the open houses where you can basically ask anything). You can get all and more information in this video actually in context. True it's less polaryzing and therefore not the best UA-cam title or thumbnail. The temple is a sacred place, why we prefer to talk about some aspects IN the temple having a more spiritual atmosphere there. If you are open to learn I invite you to check out other resources and recieve some context to the "spooky and freaky" looking Sci-Fi show presented here :)
@@hamburgerdan101 Well some for sure, I think the lost tribes might be scattered across the globe. I served my mission in New Zealand and I met quiet a few Maori etc. who are convinced to be descendants from the house of Israel.
The resources youre refering to only hold the disturbingly warped perspective of the Mormon writers. Im sure you've seen the south park episode on Mormons, that's a great resource!
@@antiLGTBQ I've seen that one too xD Even tho I would say it's debatable to cite it as a source. I grew up the only member in my school class, university etc. I am well aware of all different kind of resources. I would refer to 1 Thessalonians 5:21. Study everything and make up your own mind :) I asked God if the book of Mormon contains the truth and received a witness. I know the Lord helps anyone who seeks earnestly.
Members of the church do not move from room to room as stated in the video. IE from the creation room etc.they did in the past but now they just sit in one room do their rights and then go to the Celestial room. Salt Lake was the last to move from room to room its currently being renovated.
I am a convert to the Church of Jesus Christ of latter day Saints. I believe stronglyIn the teachings of the church. It was interesting reading all the different perspectives of people who viewed this film. I have no idea what the advertisement for the rings was all about, but it has nothing to do with the teachings of the church.
Ex-Mormon turned atheist here - this video is very well-made! It's only now that I'm on the outside of the religion looking in that I can see how bizarre it all was. But I truly believed it all at one point. Being raised by well-intentioned parents in a cult full of well-intentioned people doesn't change the fact that it's a cult. I bear no ill will towards the members of the Mormon church-they are, writ large, mostly lovely people. But the religion and the culture it has created definitely have a dark side. I spent a lot of my life feeling unworthy, unlovable, and broken, constantly debating in my head whether I was too morally dirty to attend the next temple baptism session with my friends and family or not. I left the religion before going through the higher-order rituals, but I have had the chance to go to one of the open-houses Hoog mentions in the beginning of the video, and it was fascinating! Anyways, I'm rambling. I have a weird relationship with Mormonism now-it definitely damaged me in a number of ways which I'm still healing from, but there are also aspects of my upbringing in it that I'm truly grateful for.
As a member here I'm curious, do you think your negative experiences, not trying to discredit or invalidate, came from the taught doctrine of the era or from the culture of the church? I live in Australia and thus am not in any way subject to the usual LDS culture like would happen in america.
@@LimaBeanKat All of this happened quite recently-about two years ago. I'd say it was a little bit of both, to be honest. In terms of culture- the shame culture promoted by the church collided rather nastily with my already obsessive/conscientious brain, so I spent a lot of my teens constantly feeling inadequate or stained. In terms of specific doctrine-the church's approach to sexuality was kind disastrous for me. I *heavily* repressed my sexuality and would feel awful for having even the slightest sexual thoughts or desires. Furthermore, I was under the false impression that I was somehow *uniquely* struggling with this, as if every single other young man in my priests quorum wasn't going through the exact same thing. All of us suffered in silence. It wasn't until a year *after* I left the church that I finally healed enough to realize I'm not even straight! In the For The Strength Of Youth pamphlet, it said I wasn't supposed to go on dates until I was 16, and I should avoid being in a committed relationship until I was an adult. I took both of those things extremely seriously, to the point of feeling bad if I ever even hung out one-on-one with a girl. There was a General Conference talk (I don't remember who told it) that used to rattle around constantly in my brain. In it, the speaker told a story about a young elder who came home one night to find someone pleading for him to give someone who'd been injured a blessing. He had to tell them he couldn't do it, though, because he'd just gotten back from a date where he'd broken the law of chastity. That story and others like it caused me to live in constant fear of my own body and mind, worrying that I'd betray myself, or feeling like I was some kind of carnal animalistic being not worthy of the priesthood or the temple. All this, mind you, despite the fact that I objectively did a very good job following the rules.
@@LimaBeanKat Other doctrines that I could never stand include: men "presiding" over their homes, saying that the most important thing people can do in their lives is have children, and treating queer people like they have some sort of terrible disfigurement or "burden" that God has saddled them with as some kind of cruel "test".
@@LimaBeanKat I'd love to hear about your experiences as an Aussie member, though. I genuinely hope the culture down there is less toxic than it was for me growing up in the States. Wishing you all the best :)
@@cineblazer Sorry for the late reply and yeah I reckon that we all went/got taught similar things although the cultures in australia has always been far different in my experience. US based churches always feel for culturally engineered (for lack of a better word) towards prevention whereas Australian is geared towards repentance. I reckon this has lead to a more if you can't do anything about it don't worry, and if you can, just do it. Oh and different states have completely different "judgement meters" like the state where I grew up, similar to florida, there is basically no judgement about anything. You get guys and girls with tats, gay people and all that attending church services. Whereas the state I live now feels a lot more judgy, similar to Utah. Maybe its the different in subcultures across states but I've got no idea. It is interesting to look at though
The DC temple was open to the public in 2022 after renovations and I went to tour it. It was really cool to see after driving past the spires for so many years. The interior was definitely eerie and I was surprised how clinical it felt. Like a dentist office crossed with the backrooms. The exclusivity a scale added a whimsical willy wonka effect. All around a weird experience and Im so glad I got to see it before it was sealed to the public.
Also the requirement for the celestial kingdom is faith in Jesus and baptism. This coupled with their proxy baptism for the dead the celestial kingdom is going to be packed with many people if they choose to accept the proxy work. Good news basically no one goes to hell
Which contradicts pretty much everything Jesus talked about. The road to Hell is wide and without obstacle, the road to Heaven is a narrow and thorny path.
normal people who can so easily be lead to believe absolute bollucks?? you are just getting your leaders rich and dumbing down your own genetic line... you do you but please dont try teach others this bullshit... will gladly apologise if you can prove anything in your religion is true
Any religion that isn’t yours is a cult, this video makes it look so secretive and sinister but the church literally has a program where people dedicate 2 years of their lives to explain this to people for nothing in return
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I grew up Mormon, and trying to explain this stuff to folks is HARD. Now I can just show them this! lol I also tell folks that while Mormons don’t believe in hell via traditional Christianity, they do have THE MOST passive aggressive after-life of all theology. 😂
Yeah, I know I went too deep into Mormon cosmology with this one. Honestly, I’m not super happy with this video. But let’s not have perfect be the enemy of a meal time video that you can watch while on the toilet.
Nuances/Edits:
The temple shown at 6:39 is part of a different denomination of the Latter Day Saints movement.
@@hoogyoutube Sonofabitch, how did you know I was watching this on the toilet?
Literally on the toilet rn as I clicked on this video lol
The video was cool
I do not mind a deeper look tbh.
I thought this was a great video. The Mormon church is super interesting to me and I thought you captured the unsettling vibe super well. I’ve always wanted to know what was in the church and the narrative throughout was super well told.
Damn, that was the smoothest ad-transition I've ever seen on UA-cam
@@MA-naconitor 💀
@@MA-naconitor yeah it kinda caught me off guard lol
Big fax. If it wasn't a woman I would've been actually upset he tricked me into watching 15 seconds about rings
@@Pr0toPoTaT0 I know it....too smooth. I watched quite a bit until I realized it was an ad. Former Mormon here of 40 years, til I found out it's all a sham. Based on lies.
@@MA-naconitor i am too high for this tbh
Tell me why this ad got me thinking it was the story of creating until got to the air conditioned room.
Because it is😂, it is lifted from Tolkien’s Lord of the rings. If you watch the Lord of the Rings: The fellowship of the ring, it is literally the first thing you see😊
@@STUDENT-ch4ch That was hilarious
I was thinking "Wait... so LoTR is based on Mormon beliefs? Or is it the other way around?"
@@gcewing This actually mindfucked me so much until I watched it a third time and was like okay no way did Jospeh Smith come up with boomers.
@@STUDENT-ch4ch Did you notice the Washington DC Temple is the exact shape of Sauron's Crown? Between that and the ring of power thing mid video makes me wonder did Tolkien copy Mormonism or vice versa?
Harris Johnson has no relation ship with the ex-Mormon, Washington DC based UA-camr Johnny Harris, right? Cheeky
Must be a coincidence
I seriously doubted that his name was Johnny Harris while watching this
Nice.
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It's obviously a "legally distinct character".
“And no rings were given to Gen X, who were accustomed to being ignored.”
@@jeburr24 to who?
We refused the rings because it looked like it might turn into a 'thing' for us to deal with! Screw that!
Gen X are the Hobbits. We get things done when need arises, but often just want to be left alone.
@@recoveryguru “Fine. WE will take the ring to Mordor, while you Boomers and Millennials argue among yourselves. Not that you care. But whatever.”
@@jeburr24 as a millennial I would like to take this time to blame the boomers for everything, even stubbing my toe earlier today.
Kthanks!
I'm an active member of the church, and to anyone wondering, this video is mostly factually correct. Well done, it's obvious you did your research.
Just a couple notes from me:
1) The only issue I take with this video is the uncanny atmosphere that the background music and lighting cast sometimes. While I certainly understand why some might find our doctrines peculiar at first, I think that those elements try to project conclusions about the Church onto the audience that the facts being presented wouldn't themselves inspire.
2) We think of what happens in the temple as "sacred" more than "secret." These ordinances involve us making promises and commitments to God and our family members that are very important to us, and which we would prefer not to be spoken of trivially or disrespectfully.
3) This video presents the doctrine of deification in a very ambitious, power-obsessed light. It paints a picture of members manically salivating over the thought "We CaN BecOME GOdS!!!" I agree that attitude would be un-Christian, and I'm happy to report that it's essentially non-existent in the church. While I think it makes sense theologically that we, as children of a loving Heavenly Father, should have the potential to eventually become like our Father, I'm personally far more motivated by the prospect of being able to be with my wife and children for eternity. Heaven would not be heaven without them. The doctrine of deification is talked about far more by critics of the church than by it's members, and in a far more irreverent attitude.
4) To those who think doing baptism or other ordinances for the dead violates the free will of the deceased, we believe that these ordinances are an offering or an opportunity made available to them, which they can choose to accept to reject. This is also a biblically based practice. The early saints in Corinth did this as well during the time that Paul wrote his epistle to them. (1 Corinthians 15:29)
Again, well done on the video. You've been far more fair than most UA-camrs who talk about us.
As another faithful member, well said!
Thanks for saving me a paragraph. That was great feedback!
I concur generally with this assessment.
@@TobiasIlskov Mormonism is heretical
@@nonautemrexchristus5637We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dicates of our own conscience and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how where and what they may. You are free to believe that and say that, but there are christians worldwide who cannot practice what they believe and that is a little bit more important that you attacking someone for what they believe.
That ad transition has me rethinking everything I know
I was like, I don’t think I believe in the Lord of the Rings 😂
I still have my millennial ring
It was amazing, lol
How typical that Gen X got no rings! Yeah, that sounds about right.
Bro I watched the whole thing being sus but never pulled the trigger. Best ad integration ever. Couldn't even tell
Mormon architecture is somehere between Wonderland and Warhammer 40k.
Its fortress architecture much like how embassies are built. This is because the Mormon Church is a shell corp of the CIA and the Vaults within it contain their physical holdings of Precious Metals.
CIA itself is an arm of the Vatican and nicknamed the ‘Catholic Intelligence Agency’. The Directors are all members to the Sovereign Military Order of Malta, while the ‘white collar’ is Catholic and the ‘blue collar’ is Mormon.
They like Mormons for their cult like behavior and ability to keep a secret. They’re also less stigmatic in foreign countries compared to the long history of Catholics/Protestant Imperialism and Evangelical profiteering, so they are used for OCONUS Operations which their Missionaries are guised as.
This is why the Mormon Church is officially valued at $100B, and unofficially valued at $200B. It’s also why they have oil refineries under management in Nigeria.
reminds me of Oz or some weird high fantasy liminal shit
On the freeway overpass right by the one outside of D.C. someone spray painted “Surrender Dorothy”.
Alot if it, at least in the early days, was based on Masonic temples. I don't know how much it is now but the floor plans of Kirkland, Nauvoo and SLC are extremely similar to Masonic temples
I went to the Boise temple open house out of curiosity. I'm ex-Mormon, born again in the Baptist church. I found the temple to be a lot like a nice hotel, fake printed art, chandeliers and all. You would think since they have all those billions of $$$ that they could afford real art, or have their member who are artists do the art. So anyway, it didn't give me the desire to return to the "fold."
the ad confused the motherfeck out of me
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@@troublebot same, I was totally confused, lol,
I thought after all these years, they changed it?
Ngl the massive gothic temples in all white is an awesome look, absolutely beautiful and modern. Im no Mormon but i respect them for their dedication.
I think the ideas of the church in general are good and certainly the teachings of the Gospel are true, even if not fully understood or accepted by many. At least I would say the Lion's share is absolutely true. I do understand that there are people like in any church that would not be a good example of what the gospel teaches them to be or what their doctrine teaches them.
There are people who give the Mormons a bad name, but I feel like it's just supposed to be about loving and accepting your neighbor, like Mormons were the first people to give women the right to vote in the United States and people don't know about polygamy or understand it fully but a lot of the time women could not own property unless they were married and since many of the male saints died due to persecution including the females. There were a lot of people in need of spouses. So a lot of these people would get married to multiple women that they've never met and they will never meet. They are just so that they can have rights, it would be like if your mom married the neighbor during Nazi Germany so that they didn't take her as a Jew and she was protected.
Utah was the first state to give women the right to vote. Look it up. This was basically Mexico at the time and no one wanted to come here. That's how badly they were. Persecuted
@@Luz-rm6joyou mean like when Joseph Smith was digging up Native American burial grounds and selling relics with his dad? The time he ran away with a woman without the father’s permission and married her? When he started a bank, backed out of accountability and then scammed Ohio locals out of their life savings and never made amends? On and on it goes - read No Man Knows My History
Practicing church member here - your fantastic 3D models and straightforward narration with unexpected humor are what attracted me to your channel in the first place. Overall the stylistic choices though felt darker than they needed to be, more bleak and nefarious than your typical straightforward, clean aesthetic.
I can 100% understand the curiosity and mystery that so many feel about an unusual building with restricted access. I also respect the varied experiences people have had with the church and I don’t hold their opinions against them, all of humanity is trying to make the most of whatever cards they are dealt and sort out their own experiences and it’s not easy for any of us. What you experience is a function of both what happens to you and your own interpretation of those events, I can’t speak for others experience but I’ll share my own.
My own experiences within temple walls have varied but I can unequivocally say that within the temple I have experienced peace, guidance and inspiration that have been invaluable to my life. Our faith is centered in Jesus Christ and like all christians we find hope, peace and guidance in his teachings and example. Even from an academic point of view Christ’s role in our theology and temple worship would have been worth including. I don’t pray to or worship Joseph Smith or any other prophet, in the temple I am focused on my Savior, my relationship with God and how I can live as Jesus did within my own circle of influence.
For me temple worship is not dark or mysterious. In fact temples are generally very bright (look up photos of temple interiors online, they usually have large bright chandeliers in the middle of large rooms). Like all human beings members of the Church of Jesus Christ are imperfect, flawed and looking for something. While some may not have found it within our church, within temple walls, there are millions who have and I’m immensely grateful for the impact temple worship has had on my life.
Mormon is just about pure powerplay and manipulation from above.
Be brave little sheep and dont question or try to leave, that would end bad for you.
@@CuratedCars yeah this was really funny to watch, because there wasn’t anything that was incorrect it was just really dark and the phrasing was intentionally painting an unflattering image.
Like “scavenging” family records- not wrong just maybe not the most accurate word choice. It kinda paints a desperate search when usually it’s quite casual. Just funny stuff like that
@@tarakivu8861 Christ called his followers his sheep, there is no shame there. Power or influence isn’t wrong, how it’s used is what matters. I can’t speak for your experience though, I’m sorry if you have had negative experiences with the church, no one from top to bottom is perfect.
@@CamronHowell agreed, the “war chest” description was another one. There were some minor inaccuracies but that’s going to happen. Telling the story from the perspective of “Harris Johnson” set the stage. You could make someone’s Grandma seem dark and mysterious with an approach like this 😆
Credit where credit is due the 3D model of the temple was impressive though.
@@tarakivu8861I have met members of the church who have chosen to leave but decided to come back. In my life and in theirs they have been much happier following Christ in the church when compared to being out of the church.
The whole experience of feeling nothing is close to what happened to me. When you turn 8 you get baptized and get a blessing to receive the holy ghost. I distinctly remember being excited to feel the holy ghost for the first time like all of my older mormon friends described, but I felt nothing and it scared me, so I always lied that I did feel it. I thought that when I got the priesthood at 12 I would feel it. I went to 3 different temples, including Salt Lake and Nauvoo, to do baptisms for the dead and felt nothing. For years I thought something was wrong with me, I had nightmares about going to outer darkness. I prayed every day trying to feel anything until I was 16 and stopped going to church, but I didn't truly lose my faith until I really looked into church history when I was 20. Now I just feel like I wasted my entire childhood and teenage years fearing something that wasn't there. It really deeply affected my mental health for a long time.
same situation for me got out a year ago and found out how fun life can be without the fear and guilt
it's truly relieving once you realise too, I stopped going around 16 too and been much freer since, leaning about the church history really opened my eyes
I had a similar time too, it didn't help that I was taught the "Deep Doctrines" i.e. all the messed up or really weird things the church believes but does not teach nowadays to the general Mormon audience yet has not stopped holding as truth and defending as right.
@@stevenroberts3531 Have an example? I’ve never really had first hand experience with any mormons. I have a fairly surface level understanding of what mormons believe but not enough context to know what the “crazy” stuff would entail. Just curious lol
@@cerdic9 so you are either catholic oe eastern orthodox now
This was one of the highest quality ad breaks ever made on UA-cam lol.
THE AD I'M DYING 😂😂😂
Pffff THAT AD WAS SMOOTH, First I thought he was making satire, much later I realised it was an ad.
When?
@@gleefull2962 18:34
@@gleefull29628:40
That was PEAK ngl
I'm an active member of the church, and I thought the video was fairly accurate. There were a few things that weren't quite right, but for the most part that's a good explanation of the more complex aspects of our religion. The dark undertone was kind of retracting from the beliefs. Something you've got to realize is that religion is built on faith, a video on youtube should not be your source for answers about the universe. But if it sparks a curiosity to discover for yourself what you believe, I'd say take a peek down that road. Go talk to some lds missionaries, they love sharing this gospel and will share all they can!
I'm a lifelong member of the church and my faith has waxed and waned throughout my life. At times I've been an implacable believer, at others basically an atheist. The temple is where I always felt something even when I thought none of it was true. A sense of awe and a sacred sense of grandeur. There is something magical about being in such a space performing ritual worship, at least to me. I still participate in the church and consider myself a believer now, but many of the particulars of my faith are quite heterodox and would probably raise a few eyebrows if brought up in Sunday School. Anyway, this was a quality video. Keep up the good work.
I didn't realize how much of a cult LDS was until this video. It's like Scientology mixed with Christianity. PEOPLE please just Accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior. If you truly believe in the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus Christ, you WILL be saved.
"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life."
John 3:16 (NIV)
"For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith-and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God- not by works, so that no one can boast."
Ephesians 2:8-9 (NIV)
"If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved."
Romans 10:9 (NIV)
@@machine123e456 the mormon church is a cult, yes. so is your brand of christianity. you too are in a cult.
@@machine123e456 We're speaking of the difference between salvation and exaltation.
@@machine123e456 We.. do accept Christ as our Lord and Savior? He is the way, the truth, and the life. There is no way other than Christ to salvation. He is the lynchpin to the entire Plan of Salvation; without His great and perfect sacrifice, none of us could return to be with Heavenly Father.
@@machine123e456 You might be pleased to know that even the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints stands at risk of God's judgements for treating the Book of Mormon lightly. But it is easier to attack something you are ignorant of with a word that you are ignorant of the meaning of, history or its application.
As an ex Mormon who served a mission I'm impressed at how accurate you spoke about the plan of salvation. It brought back a lot of memories both good and mostly bad.
Biblical Jesus Christ is the only savior
This story is about him, he is “Harris Johnson”
@@Andromedon777 jesus was a homosexual voodoo man who absolutely loved mushrooms.
@@SirReginaldBumquistIII “Dad, why am I named Rose?”
“Because when you were born, a rosebud fell on your head.”
“Dad, why am I named Lilly?”
“Because when you were born, a Lilly bud fell on your head.”
“JESUS WAS A GAY VOODOO HIPPY!!!1!”
“Oh, hey brick.”
@@DavidPeel-fo9xv cute
This is WILD! Yesterday I saw a Mormon church that looked like it came from Disney Land and my father and I were trying to figure out what it was... Today you release this
@@tzfsr did you try looking it up on a map service?
@@Quantum-Bullet yeah we got our answer. This video is just a cool coincidence
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Mormons are freemasons
there’s a huge mormon temple in my county that’s kinda become a meme as so many of us thought it was the “disney castle” as kids.
(ExCatholic not Mormon)Leaving religion is hard for so many reasons. The ending made me a little teary because I remember how safe I felt thinking that, no matter what, I would be reunited with family after death and that heaven was going to be better than anything I could possibly imagine. I find a lot of peace from nature and learning more about other animals and natural processes. Thanks for listening I needed to share
@@AbbiZika ...Our Father in Heaven blesses ALL His children; always has, always will...my grandmother has been in my dreams lately, & I know she is happy - I know resurrection is real, & JESUS CHRIST, the Savior of the world, died for us & was the First Resurrection...we WILL be with our family members again...
@AbbiZika interesting, I was LDS and turned myself catholic.
@@SharonStoneman-n4q You may be with them, you may not. It isn't the purpose of life, regardless of what your silly cult teaches.
@@Lovecatholicfaith Same. Born and raised LDS in California and moved to UT in 2016 to try and improve my LDS testimony. Instead I left their evil faith, thanks be to God.
I’ve never seen Mormon cosmology approached with such deference without apologetics and succinctness without depth. Bravo
The Washington Temple is pretty iconic as it's right next to the highway that leads to DC so you see it often. I even got to go inside to the sort of lobby as I had Mormon friends, though I myself am Catholic.
@@tomaszmagierowski2166Hello fellow Catholic! ❤️✝️
Love the Catholic Church!
Why does your church leaders look like the devil? They have this weird energy to them
@@Beproductivetodayyall @DavidPeel-fo9xv ✝
You can go anywhere else if not Mormon. I went in there for three years as a kid. Baptisms for the dead. Genealogy is out of this world
Mr Hoog: the cosmology is a huge part of not just Mormon imagery (visit temple square and you will see it everywhere- not surrounding the Christus statue and carved in granite on the outside walls all around the temple), it is imprinted on the mental processes of every Mormon through their temple rituals. So going “too deep into cosmology” is nearly impossible. I moved from Holland when I was 18 to do my two year mission in England. Then ended up at BYU, worked at their MTC in Provo, worked at the church office in Slc, sang with Mormon tabernacle choir, etc etc. Nothing in your video was over-stated or wrong, compliments on your summary. What struck me, something that never occurred to me, is how the religion is all centered ultimately on FOMO. Ik moet zeggen, ben blij dat ik eruit ben gestapt, die ketenen waren zwaar.
It's just an exclusive Disneyland for the gullible
@@stellviahohenheim As an Ex-Mormon, it’s not that they’re necessarily gullible it’s that the church is extremely controlling. They tell members not to read anti-mormon literature or any church history stuff not put out by the church, so unless members do their own research outside of the official channels like I did they’ll have no idea about the sketchy shit the church does. Anyone can fall for a cult.
@@stellviahohenheimwell that’s an enlightened response.
I don’t mean any hate but don’t bash on our religion. You wouldn’t do it for the Muslims or Catholics so please give us the same respect.
@@WesleySmith-kf4nl We have every right to criticize your cult just as you have every right to blindly follow it
As a member of the LDS church (mormon) I have to say, this is definetely one of the more unbiased videos I've seen on our religion. Thank you. Many like to paint our religion as a "cult" just because we do ordinances and stuff, when in reality we are a pretty regular religion. The Catholic, Hindu and Jewish churches also do "rituals", but for some reason, everyone likes to overlook what they do. (not saying they have weirder practices than we do, just to clarify)
We just view all cults through the same lens.
The issue is that you claim to be Christian, but *_very_* blatantly aren't. As such, you are considered a cult by most Christians. Mormonism is essentially an American version of Islam. Simple as.
@@jamietomas1550 Like a cult of anti-cultists.
@@tracienielson7183 no like a cult of cultists. With rituals and secrecy everyone finds it strange. If you look up the definition of cult this would be a lot easier.
@@jamietomas1550 Nope. Outsiders finding our practices strange does not make us a cult. This discussion proves the lack of secrecy. It does prove that people are rude, flippant, and disrespectful to things they don't understand but feel qualified to bash anyway.
@hoogyoutube
"Mormon" (Latter-day Saint) here.
Loved the video. Very well-produced and cool art direction in general.
Some clarifications:
• We don't believe the temple signs/tokens prove you're "Mormon." (They're simply symbolic reminders of the covenants we make).
• In the vast majority of temples, you don't progress from room to room during the Endowment (it's a presentation shown all in the same room).
• You implied that those asexual or gay will necessarily miss out on the highest heaven. This isn't a teaching within the Church. LDS prophets have consistently taught that those who never had a chance for a temple marriage/sealing in this life *will* have the opportunity in the spiritual post-mortal realm (before final judgment).
• The choice of music and the doubting, Johny Harris-esque character narrative is clearly meant to sensationalize, but I don't fault you for that. But these leads me to my next point...
• The idea of becoming Gods is a bit heavy-handed. We *do* believe we can become like God (and be creators in some sense, if not only to continue reproducing) but we don't believe we ever become Saviors or that we in any way replace God the Father or his Son Jesus Christ.
They actually do believe that LDS become their own Gods, but it's a teaching reserved for those who are deeper into Mormonism and/or for those who have read about it.
It's not taught very openly at first, but it is still on the books.
It's definitely in the older books.
Should also point out that we dont take living persons "names" to the temple either. This work is done for those family members and populice who have passed on. One cant just go... "Oh James Earl Jones passed away... Im gonna go do temple work for him. It doesn't work like that.
@@stevencall3968
stop lying to people, it's not just for family members. They will put a bunch of names on the list then you go and get 'baptized' on their behalf. They will absolutely put down names that you have not heard of
@@sharefiles-cf1if mhm
Elmer has really set the standard in the space! Besides from the visuals which are always amazing, the storytelling and sound design are always so good.
absolutely love your work cipher!
@@ctrlsyst thanks bro ❤️
@@Cipher-HD do you do everything in your videos yourself?
@@ctrlsyst team of 2
They did an open house while it was being renovated a few years ago and let the public inside. Super cool to see
They do open houses for every temple being built now. It has become a common practice after renovations. I went through such an open house in Arizona when I was a little child, and took my children through the same one when it went through renovations again. I also took them through the nearby Gilbert temple when it had its open house.
I work in a masonry company that does stone façades for them. I’ve been on six different temple constructions now and ‘though I’m not a member, it’s kinda cool that you were part of the constructions.
Cool
I think Mormons do some work in Masonry themselves
That ad is probably the best one I've seen on UA-cam. Insane that even your ads are so well made. Just discovered your channel and I'm very glad I did. Keep up the good work!
Current Mormon here. I’m really impressed on how you described the plan of salvation and baptisms for the dead. It’s really nice to see an outside view that’s very respectful of things that are very important to me. Our religion is way more complex than a lot of Christianity, so it can get confusing trying to explain these things to my friends.
I will say though that a lot of the topics in this video are kept secret out of reverence for God and Jesus, so telling the details of them could offend Mormons. I don’t think most would hold it against you, as you’re not Mormon lol, but if anyone does get upset that would be why.
Knowledge shouldn't be kept secret, regardless of belief, in my opinion.
Everything in the temple that we don't specifically commit to not sharing is fair game. The procedural stuff is fine so long as it is treated with respect.
I prefer to say that with the knowledge comes a responsibility, and carelessness with that knowledge brings about condemnation. People are asked to stay out till they are ready to take the promises that come with this knowledge seriously and respect.
@@Persun_McPersonson, with some knowledge comes a certain level of responsibility. If you know, but do not do, or take such knowledge with flippancy, you could face the same condemnation that Jesus told of the goats in Matthew 25.
So it is more for your protection more than anything else.
@@Charistoph
Except you have no justified reason to believe that to be the case, so I'm calling your bluff and reiterating that knowledge should be free.
The thing about Outer Darkness is that it is merely a contingency for people who have a perfect knowledge of God (which 99% of us will only ever get in the afterlife) and still want to deny his grace, God will force nobody to heaven.
This
Did you find this religion yourself or were your parents also religious?
@@AKAK-rh7lrdo you mean, were they steeped in a Judaeo-Christian society? Or are you implying that there exist no converts and membership is strictly hereditary?
@@Billsbob how tf is he implying that people can't convert to religion? can you actually read or do you just see buzz words and immediately start attacking people?
Indeed. A good comparison is the fate of Lucifer who became Satan and led a third of the host of heaven astray. Lucifer stood in as perfect knowledge of the Father and Christ and rejected it completely. Those who are ignorant or innocent of such have nothing to worry about such a fate.
bro, what kind of ad was that, It was seriously creative. Hare Krishna
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I live in the DMV area. I've driven by this temple since forever, and as a child, I thought it was a Disney Park.
The animation, level of detail, and storytelling in your videos is outstanding. Not to mention the topics you cover. Please keep it up!
17:50 - the end.... Dang dude... Got me sitting here fighting back tears. Up untill 2022 I didnt even have the slightest emontial reaction that would come anywhere near tears. But November 2022 my grandfather passed. Never had a great relationship with him, didnt really meet him until I was 10 when my mother and I moved states. We lived with him and my step-grandmother, his way of showing love and affection was different from what I had ever known or could understand. About a year or so living with them my mother and I got our own place moved out and I hardely ever talked to him. Early 2022 im 16 then (So yes, 18 now) he and my step-grandmother visited my mother and I, they were going around the country visiting all the family because he has dealt with cancer and various other health issues for quite some time and he decided no more medication and treatment. So they were visting everyone while they could for the final time with him. I made damn sure to spend the week and a half they were here talking to him as much as I could, being around him, showing him appriciation and love the most I could, making the best time I could with him. After they left here they were on their way to the next family memeber but ended up going back home due to his health. They had many more people planned to go see but we ended up being the final ones. In November he was in their home with a nurse that was staying with them to take care of them as he was pretty much stuck in bed to monitors and such. The night of the 11th my mother was at work and I get a call clearly had been crying for some time and she told me that my grandfather was pretty much in a coma and they didnt expect him to make it through the night. Being the amazing but stubborn man he was he wanted to prove everyone wrong and made it until I bealive around 4Am the next morning when he was officaly decalred then dead. Since that night anything that involves family its just different from anything ive ever felt before. The amount of regrett I have for not talking to him more, spending more time with him. How I wish I could redo it all just to have just a little bit more time with him, just a little bit better of a connection but he's just gone. He was cremated and I have some of his ashes in a nice little necklace which has Grandpa *His last name, I rather not share because yea* I wear it all the time since I got it. The only times I have ever taken it off are for X-Rays when I had to. Anytime im having a bad day I just take a few moments to sit there holding the necklace with his ashes in my hand, thinking about him, about how what ive done since would have made him proud. Later on a few months after he passed my step-grandmother told me that when they were here, some of the things I did with him was the happiest shes seen him in quite awhile and after they left he wouldnt stop talking about it. Just knowing I was able to have that impact for him though means more than I could ever imagine.
The body dies, but the spirit lives on. You'll see your Grandpa again.
@@Davey_066-vu7eg, you will see your dear grandfather again, along with all your loved one who have passed (including pets). May God bless you and comfort you.
Hoog sounds like he was this close to becoming a Morman
I have to say that I at least respect Mormonism for being creative with its theology. Lots of other denominations try so hard to be mid and pass off as approachable. Irony is that it’s much more interesting to read about religions when they try to be wild/different. But if they are wild/different, they’re not really convincing enough to turn into a scalable religion
@@hoogyoutube Just beware of the institutionalized incest that its elders have been accused of practicing according to family members who left the church.
@@hoogyoutube yeah it feels like a very comforting religion
@@hoogyoutube Look into catholicism, actual theology bs free and fake history free.
@@hoogyoutube The funny thing about this is that the current church leadership is trying to become more mainstream and approachable, trying hard to be mid. They're trying to move away from the "Mormon" label, changing their symbol on google maps to a cross, not putting the Angel Moroni statue on new temples, and they continue to de-emphasize a lot of the doctrine mentioned in this video. They desperately want to be just another Christian denomination.
I honestly might be an insane person, because hearing you explain mormon beliefs is kind of converting me! They sound a little based!
Insane? No,probably just searching.Remember this whole group was started by a dude who found golden tablets in upstate New York. I don't believe the purpose of your life is wrapped up in any of the tax exempt mumbo jumbo organizations.
Joining the cult because you want to be your own God, you will end up in hell I promise you that. Nothing based about that, but I'm sure you're the type who hates Jesus anyway.
@@sonder1309 More like freebased!
maryland resident here, i have passed by the Washington Temple COUNTLESS times. many people here refer to it as Disneyland, or ‘Oz’.
7 views in 21seconds? Hoog must have migrated to the new city in Utah...
Edit: great video! The sponsor spot was kinda funny. I wonder if the name Harris Johnson was inspired by another animated graphics explainer youtuber...
Give it time.
We all know who that Harris Johnson is
Ex-Mormon here. This is a great video! I’m honestly kinda sad that the Mormon Church is moving further and further away from…. let’s just call all of it “space stuff”… to be more palatable to modern tastes. This is the stuff that makes Mormonism so beautiful, unique, and delightfully whacky!
True. When I was still practicing I loved that stuff. It's what set us apart and I was proud of it. In their attempt to be more like and accepted by other Christians they are losing what makes them interesting and unique.
@@axoid exactly!
The way I describe it to people who aren’t familiar with Mormonism is “Imagine if the Freemasons did a total corporate-minimalism resign to appeal to people who like Starbucks.”
I want to live in a world where Mormons in the Marine Corps shout “FOR KOLOB!!!” before throwing a grenade.
But as an atheist exmo, I get that I’m being selfish. :)
That’s a fascinating take to hear from an exmo, I’m used to people who leave saying we’re too esoteric and culty, not that we’re not esoteric enough. I see you and the other dommenter’s point, though. There’s other active members I know of that are getting tired of protestant culture seeping into church culture.
@@fidgetthecrazy I think there is a difference between culty practices that exmos might not like and the more unique doctrine that we still find fascinating. I personally always felt a little creeped out by the temple ceremonies from the very first time I went through. But the more deep/speculative doctrine stuff was always interesting to me.
@@fidgetthecrazy To be fair, I’m not sure I would have personally stayed in if it was more esoteric, but I also think these things can have profound human beauty.
One of my favorite things in the world as a kid, but even more so as an Exmo atheist adult, was the Manti Pagent… I even flew out to Utah to go see the final performance!
Yes, of course, the optics of white conservative people dressing up as villainous Native American Jews are horrible, but there’s also always incredible beauty whenever any group of humans band to get together to put on a divinity play… especially when they don’t have a lot of resources and money… because by definition, such works demands the highest level of passion, artistry, and selflessness imaginable. It brings out the best in people. Just think about how many grandmas sewed little lamenite costumes for their grandkids over the years!
One of the most brilliant depictions of the beauty I see in things like the Manti Pagent, and LDS Esoteria at large, is at the climax of the Broadway musical “The Book of Mormon” when the Africans put on their own Divinity Play for the local Mission President (to his shock and horror! 😂)
It’s played for laughs, but what makes it so damn poetic is that, for the Africans, what outsiders see as “wacky and obviously made up” is sacred, precious, and beautiful TO THEM. Not only that, their whacky new religion is the only thing that has ever worked to make their hard lives less shitty. That show is such a love letter to the Mormon Religion, and it completely changed how I thought about my own upbringing in it.
So, yeah, LDS esoteria is awesome. They thought Skybeams were cool hundreds of years before the MCU put them in every movie. Hahaha.
best Ad i have seen in a while
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@@gleefull2962 it ends at the 10 min mark so before that
At first, I was skeptical about finishing this video. As an active member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, I am apprehensive of warching videos like these because some people take these types of videos too far out of context. I'm glad you took some sensitivity to the sacredness of the things that are done in the temple. The church does try to make public what can be made public to remove the stigma of mystery and negative ideas of the temples. Though I thought some things were a little out of context, you got a vast majority of things pretty spot on. I see this as a learning opporutnity to people who are genuinely curious and want to learn more... of course, not everything can be said due to the sacredness of such context but if you have the opportunity to go to a temple open house during the brief window that temples are open to the public, you can learn more about why the church builds these temples and what is done within. This video was more philosophical and theoretical and I like it. I and some of my friends in the church often question each other on our own ideas and this topic quite often. Haha. It's a fun debate we have.
I spy Alyssa Grenfell's book, I highly recommend it! I am a "nevermo", just interested in the religion and culture. This was an awesome video. I respect everyone's religious beliefs and think this video was tastefully done.
This line struck me as odd "with strict rules about drinking alcohol and fellatio, Mormon's aren't the type of people who get invited to parties very often" Is getting oral sex at a party required for parties now? The no alcohol thing is real. It's not necessarily that it's just that LDS people don't get invited to those kinds of parties, but that they actively avoid them. LDS people aren't generally very comfortable around drinking or smoking or a lot of other vices. But I think the oral sex thing, which is not specifically prohibited, is sort of a silly thing to say is the reason people aren't inviting Mormons to parties.
A couple other things too:
I don't know that LDS doctrine is particularly any more restrictive than most any other Judeo Christian religion. There's the basic idea of a sorting. Those who have chosen and those who have not. It's not really a novel idea that there would be a day of judgement. The difference is that the LDS doctrine promotes an idea of varied levels of being. The Telestial Kingdom or the furthest from God is set out as more beautiful than imaginable. It is not a punishment but more so a reality of being. That is, where people have chosen to be. The Terrestrial Kingdom is set out as those who chose well but simply weren't willing to accept all the requirements set out by Christ. It is likely more closely associated with what the vast majority of Christianity imagines heaven being. And then the Celestial Kingdom is just a representation of those who have done all that has been required to live equally in the same existence as Heavenly Father (the preferred name for God among the LDS community). What it means is just eternal increase, or eternal progression. It's a state of being that you could potentially create your own spirit children forever and preside as you would over your own family on Earth and continue to learn, grow, and experience unendingly. The end result being that you would learn to create just as God or Jesus Christ create. The judgement of kingdoms comes after a long period in the spirit world where each individual can continue to make choices, learn, and change. There is no harsh damnation as is often times portrayed in most other Christian, Jewish, and Islamic traditions.
OH MY GOSH THANK YOU. That line was unbearable to hear.
I know I agree
Solid response - WELL done 👍.
LDS Doctrine teaches AND promotes the principles you've described in _just_ the *way* you describe .
That each concept you discuss is DIRECTLY _Biblical_ Taught by BOTH Jesus _Himself_ , his Apostles AND the Prophets of the Old Testament as well , helps to communicate the truth of your message .
VERY well done .
I love how triggered you folks get. Aren't you the same who laugh at pink haired liberals and claim they want to destroy America?
That must by far be the best ad in a video I've seen
What an absolute amazeing video. Thank you for this I've wondered about this stuff forever. You deserve a raise.
Dear Hoog,
I’m a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. I wanted to comment on your video as it’s been mulling around in my mind since I watched it. After thinking about it for some time, I believe all I’d like to say is that I feel what you’ve said is refreshingly accurate and pretty well described. You’ve used good scriptures to back up what you’ve shared, and your video is informative. There are a few nitpicks: Members of the Church don’t tend to refer to themselves as ‘Mormons’ officially anymore; we don’t call heaven ‘Mormon Heaven’ or really anything with ‘Mormon’ in front of it anymore except for the Book of Mormon; and most all of this information isn’t really secret at all but can be found all over the Church website.
I honestly could’ve looked past all of that, however your final statement towards the end about others being stuck waiting in line creates a viewpoint that I feel is inaccurate and misses the whole point of the Temple and the Endowment: none of this is possible without Jesus Christ.
I don’t know your religious beliefs or background; I don’t know whether you adhere to any, so mentioning Christ may be pointless or may be important in your eyes. But Christ IS the whole point we go to the temple; it is the whole point WHY we have a temple, and WHY it’s even necessary. He was not mentioned very often in the video; without Him, all the covenants and rituals and actions in the temple are unnecessary and might even look foolish. His sacrifice, His blood, His pain was all so that we could return to God and be like Him; so that all that the Father has could be His, and through Him could also be ours. This is the whole point: the temple is available for ALL. Period. No one will miss out on that chance whether in THIS life or the life TO COME because Christ is merciful. So, if you are indeed divorced, a homosexual, or deal with any other number of scenarios that would supposedly keep you “waiting in line” outside the temple, THAT’S why Christ is central to everything -He will provide a way for you to enter IF YOU WANT TO. After all, the only reason people go in is because they WANT to. That’s why there IS no line, there’s already enough room inside. Knock and it shall be opened to you.
Appreciate your reading this if you do, good luck with your channel and best wishes.
-AJ_Kool101
That ad was the highest quality transition I've ever seen seamless an involuntarily watched but I'm glad I did
6:33 much of my family is from Mexico City and everyone i know from there appreciates that the temple there is designed to mimic native architecture.
Rather apt for Mormonism (based on freemasonry) to mimic the paganism and human-sacrifice of the Aztecs...
I want a SalesForce ring in ways that aren't even classified in the DSM yet.
@@noahwofford2433 lolllllllll
Top video zoals altijd, volgens mij ben je Nederlands dus wellicht doet het je goed om te horen dat je ook het Nederlandse publiek bereikt.
Blijf zo doorgaan kerel!
Ja echt top video man!!
Hi. Ex Mormon here. I’ve been through the temple and the mysterious tone is cracking me up because I know what exactly happens in there. Good editing and tone setting btw just humorous because of my perspective.
is it like freesmasonry?
@@sonder1309 A lot of it was ripped-off from freemasonry, yes (although the ceremony has been changed and downplayed over the years). If you are curious about what it looks like, the youtuber NewNameNoah has direct recordings of the ordinances.
@@sonder1309 I’m not a freemason but based off what I know about them it felt like it might be a watered down version of some of their rites mixed with some Mormon doctrines.
As an active, believing, practicing member of the church in question, I have to say that ad transition has sent me into a spiral of awakening. I now worship the great and powerful Odoo.
Mate. Coming from someone who normally skips straight through ads, you're a master. That one was magic and I actually went back to watch it again because I enjoyed your misdirection so much..
Well played.
I've always enjoyed your videos and love what you do. Keep them coming.
Interesting, I didn't no much about mormonism. I guess it makes sense why there are so many mormon sci-fi writers.
This didn't really even really scratch the sci-fi stuff in Mormon theology. See the book of Abraham and the POGP.
Sci-fi Mormon stuff is so funny
"Harris Johnson" of the Washington D.C. area. Verrrrrry subtle.
@@stalegum lmao. Yeah 🤣
First, that Ad read caught me by surprise. But I love it.
Everything stated here has been accurate to my experience from when I was Mormon. Though, another thing you can't see during the pre-dedication tours, there are additional cloth hangings that separate the rooms into smaller ritual areas. Some are part of the rituals (some you shake hands through, others you pass through symbolically), the others are just to allow multiple rituals to be performed in the same room at the same time when many people come to the temple.
Member of the Church here. Pretty accurate video, but cast in very dark and ominous vibes. Some little things you got wrong but appreciate you trying to be fair.
that ad almost got me
This was an incredibly well researched video. As an active member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints I appreciate what was clearly an earnest attempt to explore our perspectives. My comments are meant to touch on some things that other members that have commented may not have.
The last segment made me feel that some of your research was inspired by reddit posts and former member's commentary. Our leaders have often addressed the church about the struggles of members who are in abusive situations, struggle with their sexual identity contradicting their spiritual beliefs, and the nature of living in the world but not being of the world. If we believe in a God who gives second chances to those who have died, He will be patient with all circumstances of people now who genuinely are trying to live by His Gospel. The last segment had a tinge of what someone ranted about online rather than the previously well researched content.
Often there's personal feelings attached to leaving the church, it's difficult for many and there can be a biased attempt to make us seem more cultish and secretive than we really are. My immediate first thought when you started the video and discussed the "secret nature" of our faith I laughed and remembered as a missionary knocking on doors and discussing our "secrets" with total strangers daily.
One thing that should be made a bit clearer is that the Temples are meant to be the "House of the Lord", which is the main reason they're different than regular churches. The expense that is taken to build these incredibly beautiful buildings is meant to honor the Lord. Each temple is built to reflect the local people because we are all children of god. One thing that I absolutely love about the temple clothes is it erases class and circumstances. When you enter the temple, there's none of the worldly distinctions. I've met people of all nationalities and walks of life in them. I'm currently in Korea and can go to the temple and experience the same ordinances that are back in the States. I know there are some who don't feel anything, but I've felt deep and powerful feelings of peace and comfort.
I feel like your clarifications are well put and needed! However, I also think that those “Reddit exmormon”-esque comments are likely placed strategically to provide an alternative view when considering the faith (much like the Thomas Paine piece he included when talking about Joseph Smith). Though the church has responded to some of those concerns/comments, the grievances exist nonetheless. Given the church’s stance on personal revelation too, it can simply come down to a matter of theological/philosophical perspective in a few of those cases. I have been on both sides of those debates, so I understand how both views can see the other one as poorly researched - but at the end of the day no one has claim to more truth than the other until God comes down and spells it out himself.
Still a cult
@@RoseanneSeason7 If you would ever like an open and civil discussion about whether or not my church is a cult please let me know and I'll happily provide a point of contact. I've heard all the arguments, if you have something new to tell me I'm open to the novelty of the experience.
@@RoseanneSeason7 every church that exist was a cult. Jesus was considered a cult leader by the Pharisees and Seduces
@@tyleryoung6360 One thing that puzzles me is the concept of your followers turning into God's. The Bible literally expresses many times that there isn't any other God but God himself.
Deuteronomy 4:39: “Know therefore this day, and lay it to your heart, that the LORD is God in heaven above and on the earth beneath; there is no other.”
Isaiah 44:8: “Before me no god was formed, nor shall there be any after me.”
Isaiah 44:24: “I am the LORD, who made all things, who stretched out the heavens alone, who spread out the earth-Who was with me?”
Isaiah 45:5: “I am the LORD, and there is no other, besides me there is no God.”
Isn’t this voice artist the same one that works for Fern?
Yes
@@lengting that would be insane.
U can clearly hear his strong dutch accent lmao, not the same as Fern.
@@yorbenhebbelinck1169 The chanel discreptios has a link to Fern Hah
fern is a joint channel with 2 voice artists, including hoog :P
That ad transmission gave me a good life. That was I've ever seen by far!
i've been here, lived near it my whole life. there are paintings of jesus EVERYWHERE. every single wall in every single hallway. they're all in essentially the same style, same artist, same themes. sometimes it's jesus with people of various races, sometimes it's joseph smith. they opened it up for tours briefly in 2022, and i attended with my high school class. the guides are very friendly and there are docents everywhere. we didn't get to see every room, but saw the baptism pool and some of the rooms used in the marriage process.
Honestly... I had never really delved deep into what Mormonism is, or what they believed... all I had ever heard was the "cooky" way it was created... but... this video makes me think it's actually quiet a beautiful way to view the world. The more you know.
Wait a minute,you are o.k. with some dude finding golden tablets buried in upstate New York?
It’s a really fantastic religion. I no longer am a member, but once you get past some of the oddities it really is a very well intentioned religion with great folks at the helm and a very merciful theology.
Lol i thought the sponsor was actually the mormon belief thing i was so confused haha
Was the Harris you talked about the the UA-camr Johnny Harris which was also a Mormon
I dated an ex Mormon who escaped being the son of a bishop in Salt Lake City thanks to Reddit. He went to law school clear across the country (DC) and told me lots of horror stories about the cult. He almost died of strep on his mission trip at 18 because they didn't let him get medical care.
love the video, I think that was the greatest ad I've ever seen. It was soo good I barely noticed i was watching an ad and once I did I didn't mind watching the rest. Keep it up can't wait for the next video!
As an Active member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, or "Mormon," I appreciate the accuracy and honesty with which you portrayed us. I'm only disappointed that the video followed a man who lost his faith, since that seemed to give the video a negative outlook on what you so respectfully shared otherwise.
I appreciate the unbiased nature of the video but from my education of lds teachings and practices regardless if you believe in the religion there are several inaccuracies in this video just in the first few minutes. Good video but take it with a grain of salt.
You can make even the most common things sound spooky with the right tone and music. Most devout members do not do all of the rituals in one day. They do not start in the baptistry and work their way up. Members do 10 or 20 baptisms of names etc rather than one at a time.
As an exmormon who used to work in the temple (thus, I attended weekly for a year) this was perfect.
Also, I did my internship working on Odoo 😂 This whole thing is a flashback to my Mormon college experience.
that odoo commercial was the smoothest transition from content to commercial I have ever seen...
Should label the Community of Christ (RLDS) temple as not being LDS. I also feel tithing should be mentioned here as a prerequisite for the temple recommend.
I HEARD THE TRUE KINGDOM DOSENT HAVE HERACHY, BESIDES THE ULTIMATE CREATOR And christ himself (sorry stupid caps) and also if "tiething" is requred, ofton to a very wealthy church wouldent the true christ want you to tith to one that needs it most like homeless or a small struggling church?
@@NightmareRex6 i hEaRd
Yes, God is a God of sacrifices from the very beginning to today. No true faith should pretend like sacrifice doesn't matter. Never once have I or anyone I know regretted paying Tithing even in the worst straights, the blessings have compensated more than the loss (even directly in the financial department at times). It's 10% of your INCREASE. If you make 0 you pay 0, if you make only 100$ a month you pay only 10$. Meanwhile your Taxes are taking half or more even if you don't know it. The only people who genuinely can't afford 10% are people who are spending recklessly acting like their paycheck will disappear if they don't and live beyond their means. It's often the poor who can most afford it, while upper low to middle class and upper middle people will spend too much chasing luxuries or getting scared of number of $ even though it's the same 10% as it was when they made less.
@@NightmareRex6 You should research what this "wealthy church" does with it's tithing money. Our charitable and reliefs efforts are extensive. It's also expensive building and maintaining the churches and temples. Money is not acquired for the sake of wealth. It's acquired to do God's work.
Next level storytelling
that Odoo ad was epic
Your animation style is super badass. The 3D renderings are beautiful. The old 70s-80s style vector graphics and voice over like at 11:35 are super cool. I would love to see you do something similar for Orthodox, Catholic, Lutheran, and Islamic places of worship and cosmology. Your channel has so much potential! Beyond cosmology and places of worship, you could do this for technical things like the Saturn V rocket, Tokamak reactors, and really anything else humans have built. I would love to see more! You have a new subscriber.
What a great video!! I love your art style and story telling. Thanks for doing what you do!
I ate that sponsor up lmfao
I was raised in this religion and I can tell you it’s pretty crazy walking into one of these buildings. They put a lot of work and money into making it look flawless. And everything is WHITE. im talking like porcelain or confectioner sugar level white. The clothes you wear, the carpet, the curtains the wallpaper even the light switches. All white. As a Mormon child, you take a lot of youth “temple trips” to do baptisms for the dead. You’re told that you’ll feel a sense of peace and “rightness” as in, “this is where I’m supposed to be. This is the right choice” you’re told you’ll feel the Holy Ghost. I didn’t feel any of those things. I mainly felt extreme anxiety and nervousness. And I was restless as all get out.
When you enter a temple it’s a very quiet and reserved atmosphere. There’s almost no talking unless it’s being done by a temple worker during the instructional session (when they tell you where to go, who to go to if you get lost or separated from your group, etc) or the person giving the prayer or doing the baptisms. And even then it isn’t loud, it’s done in a very hushed tone. I couldn’t sit still or keep my eyes down during the “contemplation” part of
The session. If I felt anything, it was a desire to be back outside. I was itchy and had hot flashes 😂 so after, when I was asked by my mom what the experience was like and if I “felt the spirit” I lied and told her yeah it was really cool.
I can understand. It may be hard often to "feel the spirit" when inside of the temple. As an LDS member, I can tell you that it is hard for me to feel the spirit sometimes while in the temple. What I found was I can feel it better when I think of why I am there, and also when I "let go" of the earthly thoughts inside of my head, and think of Jesus Christ. I can often feel peace when I do that.
Exact same experience. I felt really uncomfortable. Like the whiteness was overcompensating and suffocating. 😂
Again and again, I can watch ad like those all day, creative, aesthetic and useful. Please UA-cam, don't let ad about men shouting at me that I should shave agressively my beard twice an hour, or women telling me I should wear their favorite sanitary plug
I think it was late 70's or early 80's we toured the Tabernacle next to DC. Yeah it was amazing to see! I've lived around 40 miles from it most of my life. You can get a pretty good look from the beltway. Beautiful building for sure!
I've never commented on a video but I felt I should here.
Everyone has at least one thing in their lives that they hold close to their hearts and are very protective of. Many people, including myself and likely many of you reading, view family and friends that way. So, when opinions or interpretations of those things we deeply care about are shared---particularly negative or incorrect ones---we often feel the desire to defend those things, and we may realize the importance of thorough research on the things other people deeply care about so that they don't have the same experience. In addition to my family and friends, I hold my faith very close to my heart, and my faith happens to be something that many in the media and online share many opinions and interpretations of. I say all this because perhaps some of you who are reading, even if you are atheists or not members of my faith, can empathize with that feeling of protectiveness over something you care deeply about that I feel when I see someone's interpretation of my beliefs.
I appreciate you taking the time to respectfully explain what we believe, @hoogyoutube. I know it is hard to adequately explain a belief system that you don't personally believe (especially with the level of depth you attempted 😄), but I think you did a good job of fairly approaching the topic without obvious bias or disdain for my faith or its followers.
That said, I will say that while many basic facts about our beliefs you described were accurate (i.e. the existence of ordinances such as baptisms for the dead, the general big picture of each step of the Plan of Salvation, etc.), as I'm sure you suspected, there were several inaccuracies. My automatic desire is to defend and correct. However, I'm not going to give a minute-by-minute fact-check of everything in the video in this comment. But I do want to remind people to pause and take this video with a grain of salt, and think about how you wish people would approach you when someone gives a slightly inaccurate interpretation or opinion about something you deeply care about. Maybe you'd wish they asked you questions rather than stuck with assumptions. Maybe you'd wish they did some research of their own. This video is a good starting point for discussion, so I also want to open up the comment section to any of those who may have a desire to respectfully ask questions or develop a clearer understanding of what we believe.
That's all. Sorry for the length. Thank you again, @hoogyoutube, for your desire to fairly explain my faith.
I grew up Mormon, made some bad choices in the churches eyes as a teen and wasn't very active. I was supposed to go through the whole process of being temple worthy again, but I left the church before that happened. They really put pressure on being temple worthy to live your best life. They told stories of enlightenment to us children but never told us the real process. This is the MOST I've ever learned about the process. This is a very good educational video, as I was always curious but glad I never went.
As a believing Latter-Day Saint from Germany, I have to wonder where some of that mystery comes from. We have about 70.000 missionaries in the word, great Websites and tons of resources about the temple (not mentioning the open houses where you can basically ask anything). You can get all and more information in this video actually in context. True it's less polaryzing and therefore not the best UA-cam title or thumbnail.
The temple is a sacred place, why we prefer to talk about some aspects IN the temple having a more spiritual atmosphere there. If you are open to learn I invite you to check out other resources and recieve some context to the "spooky and freaky" looking Sci-Fi show presented here :)
And the natives are a lost tribe of Israel?
@@hamburgerdan101 Well some for sure, I think the lost tribes might be scattered across the globe. I served my mission in New Zealand and I met quiet a few Maori etc. who are convinced to be descendants from the house of Israel.
@@philippnikol8239 you’re a kook
The resources youre refering to only hold the disturbingly warped perspective of the Mormon writers. Im sure you've seen the south park episode on Mormons, that's a great resource!
@@antiLGTBQ I've seen that one too xD Even tho I would say it's debatable to cite it as a source. I grew up the only member in my school class, university etc. I am well aware of all different kind of resources. I would refer to 1 Thessalonians 5:21. Study everything and make up your own mind :)
I asked God if the book of Mormon contains the truth and received a witness. I know the Lord helps anyone who seeks earnestly.
These visuals are so fucking sexy 0:32
@@IMPERIALYT e
Well hello there
Members of the church do not move from room to room as stated in the video. IE from the creation room etc.they did in the past but now they just sit in one room do their rights and then go to the Celestial room. Salt Lake was the last to move from room to room its currently being renovated.
@@DavidWilliamsaz I went room to room when I did my endowments years back. They have changed it several times to where now you no longer have to.
Cults are so fascinating
I am a convert to the Church of Jesus Christ of latter day Saints. I believe stronglyIn the teachings of the church. It was interesting reading all the different perspectives of people who viewed this film. I have no idea what the advertisement for the rings was all about, but it has nothing to do with the teachings of the church.
I can’t believe how long I focused on that commercial before realizing it was a damn commercial.
This is not an endorsement of this behavior.
the mormon church in san diego is one of the most beautiful buildings ive seen. i love it.
My parents got married (sealed) there!
I 100% agree, I grew up near there and it's the most beautiful temple... in my humble opinion ha
Thank you for sharing!
You should do more videos on "WHy do _____ churches/temples/mosques/etc look wierd"
Ex-Mormon turned atheist here - this video is very well-made! It's only now that I'm on the outside of the religion looking in that I can see how bizarre it all was. But I truly believed it all at one point. Being raised by well-intentioned parents in a cult full of well-intentioned people doesn't change the fact that it's a cult. I bear no ill will towards the members of the Mormon church-they are, writ large, mostly lovely people. But the religion and the culture it has created definitely have a dark side. I spent a lot of my life feeling unworthy, unlovable, and broken, constantly debating in my head whether I was too morally dirty to attend the next temple baptism session with my friends and family or not. I left the religion before going through the higher-order rituals, but I have had the chance to go to one of the open-houses Hoog mentions in the beginning of the video, and it was fascinating!
Anyways, I'm rambling. I have a weird relationship with Mormonism now-it definitely damaged me in a number of ways which I'm still healing from, but there are also aspects of my upbringing in it that I'm truly grateful for.
As a member here I'm curious, do you think your negative experiences, not trying to discredit or invalidate, came from the taught doctrine of the era or from the culture of the church? I live in Australia and thus am not in any way subject to the usual LDS culture like would happen in america.
@@LimaBeanKat All of this happened quite recently-about two years ago. I'd say it was a little bit of both, to be honest. In terms of culture- the shame culture promoted by the church collided rather nastily with my already obsessive/conscientious brain, so I spent a lot of my teens constantly feeling inadequate or stained.
In terms of specific doctrine-the church's approach to sexuality was kind disastrous for me. I *heavily* repressed my sexuality and would feel awful for having even the slightest sexual thoughts or desires. Furthermore, I was under the false impression that I was somehow *uniquely* struggling with this, as if every single other young man in my priests quorum wasn't going through the exact same thing. All of us suffered in silence. It wasn't until a year *after* I left the church that I finally healed enough to realize I'm not even straight!
In the For The Strength Of Youth pamphlet, it said I wasn't supposed to go on dates until I was 16, and I should avoid being in a committed relationship until I was an adult. I took both of those things extremely seriously, to the point of feeling bad if I ever even hung out one-on-one with a girl.
There was a General Conference talk (I don't remember who told it) that used to rattle around constantly in my brain. In it, the speaker told a story about a young elder who came home one night to find someone pleading for him to give someone who'd been injured a blessing. He had to tell them he couldn't do it, though, because he'd just gotten back from a date where he'd broken the law of chastity. That story and others like it caused me to live in constant fear of my own body and mind, worrying that I'd betray myself, or feeling like I was some kind of carnal animalistic being not worthy of the priesthood or the temple. All this, mind you, despite the fact that I objectively did a very good job following the rules.
@@LimaBeanKat Other doctrines that I could never stand include: men "presiding" over their homes, saying that the most important thing people can do in their lives is have children, and treating queer people like they have some sort of terrible disfigurement or "burden" that God has saddled them with as some kind of cruel "test".
@@LimaBeanKat I'd love to hear about your experiences as an Aussie member, though. I genuinely hope the culture down there is less toxic than it was for me growing up in the States. Wishing you all the best :)
@@cineblazer Sorry for the late reply and yeah I reckon that we all went/got taught similar things although the cultures in australia has always been far different in my experience. US based churches always feel for culturally engineered (for lack of a better word) towards prevention whereas Australian is geared towards repentance. I reckon this has lead to a more if you can't do anything about it don't worry, and if you can, just do it. Oh and different states have completely different "judgement meters" like the state where I grew up, similar to florida, there is basically no judgement about anything. You get guys and girls with tats, gay people and all that attending church services. Whereas the state I live now feels a lot more judgy, similar to Utah. Maybe its the different in subcultures across states but I've got no idea. It is interesting to look at though
The DC temple was open to the public in 2022 after renovations and I went to tour it. It was really cool to see after driving past the spires for so many years. The interior was definitely eerie and I was surprised how clinical it felt. Like a dentist office crossed with the backrooms. The exclusivity a scale added a whimsical willy wonka effect. All around a weird experience and Im so glad I got to see it before it was sealed to the public.
Beautifully curated / prepared video.
Bro you pick some of the best subject matter respect…alongside making amazing content from the audio, visual, storytelling mad good 👌
Also the requirement for the celestial kingdom is faith in Jesus and baptism. This coupled with their proxy baptism for the dead the celestial kingdom is going to be packed with many people if they choose to accept the proxy work. Good news basically no one goes to hell
Which contradicts pretty much everything Jesus talked about. The road to Hell is wide and without obstacle, the road to Heaven is a narrow and thorny path.
It’s not that secret guys. Many members of the church are willing to teach about our religion. We are normal people too.
@@pumpkinthe15th16 it shares many characteristics of a cult
normal people who can so easily be lead to believe absolute bollucks?? you are just getting your leaders rich and dumbing down your own genetic line... you do you but please dont try teach others this bullshit... will gladly apologise if you can prove anything in your religion is true
Explain mormon gay porn genre.
Yeah yeah sure buddy
Any religion that isn’t yours is a cult, this video makes it look so secretive and sinister but the church literally has a program where people dedicate 2 years of their lives to explain this to people for nothing in return
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That's where the head priest keeps his collection of altar boys
I grew up Mormon, and trying to explain this stuff to folks is HARD. Now I can just show them this! lol
I also tell folks that while Mormons don’t believe in hell via traditional Christianity, they do have THE MOST passive aggressive after-life of all theology. 😂