Vintage Gretsch Stop Sign Badge Snare Restoration

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  • Опубліковано 22 гру 2024

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  • @dmcubing6342
    @dmcubing6342 11 місяців тому +3

    3:14
    This drum dates from around 1976-77. Many drums in the 61000 to 67000 range have the guarantee blacked out. This was done at the factory. This happened during the Baldwin buyout.

    • @malonedrum
      @malonedrum  11 місяців тому +1

      That's such a funny quirk. I love how companies took the approach like this in past times instead of just printing new paper tags. It's hilarious.

    • @dmcubing6342
      @dmcubing6342 11 місяців тому

      @@malonedrum exactly! Like they’re not going to let the paper be wasted either!
      Awesome video!!! Really enjoyed the restoration!!!

  • @CharlesWillisBonsai
    @CharlesWillisBonsai 25 днів тому +1

    That turned out pretty good. I was surprised when you bought that Emperor X and not surprised when you didn't care for the feel. I was also surprised with your rock drumming. That fill with the kicks and the Smells like Teen Spirit groove sounded great.

    • @malonedrum
      @malonedrum  25 днів тому +1

      Just a jazzy guy trying to rock out

  • @mariocaspar2340
    @mariocaspar2340 11 місяців тому +1

    Hi Mike, it's always nice and entertaining to watch you renovate your drums and with this nice old Gretsch snare you've created another beauty 🥁😉👌🏼

  • @steverichdrummr
    @steverichdrummr 11 місяців тому +2

    Mike, this whole freak'n video is awesome. We share a passion for vintage drums for sure, and that Gretsch is a beauty ( ok, not saying perfect, but you know it's gorgeous with it's life history and character).I've always loved that (I think)walnut? finish, and come on, you gotta love die cast hoops, right? I do. I freaked out when I saw you buy an Emporer X with a dot, because I just re-furbed a Ludwig Standard 5" wood shell that came to me with that head, which I reused. One problem though, whereas it sounded fabulous at medium tuning, it had MAJOR snare buzz anywhere off the dot, and that's where I mostly hit, rim shots a couple of inches from the edge. I tried all kinds of thing to get rid of the incredibly loud buzz, with zero luck. I started to quedtion even the wide snare beds. Well I gave up and brought it in to Villiage Drum, my local drum expert. Anthony, the great and genious owner, opened the case, put his finger on the words Emporer X, and said " Steve, that's your problem right there, wrong head for this drum. Try a Remo Ambassador coated, or equivalent". Guess what, he was 100000% right, as soon as I did that it went to zero buzz. I was actuelly shocked, but he was right.

    • @malonedrum
      @malonedrum  11 місяців тому +1

      Had to learn the hard way…

  • @TheMiddleAgedDrummer68
    @TheMiddleAgedDrummer68 11 місяців тому +1

    You really inspire me to start looking for vintage drums and restoration, and did I hear some Dave Growl and Nirvana? love it!

    • @malonedrum
      @malonedrum  11 місяців тому +1

      Appreciate it! But don't waste your time buying vintage drums to restore, just buy them from when I'm done with them!!!
      Lil' Grohl in there for sure.

  • @gregwonhoff7161
    @gregwonhoff7161 11 місяців тому +1

    Just another fine video in a line of other fine videos of yours. It not only looks great, but t sounds great too.
    Thank you for sharing.❤️🙏👏❤️🙏👏❤️

  • @Overlycomplicatedswede
    @Overlycomplicatedswede 9 місяців тому +1

    The rustic finish on that drum is gorgeous

    • @malonedrum
      @malonedrum  9 місяців тому

      I agree! A classic Gretsch Walnut

  • @tie8975
    @tie8975 11 місяців тому +3

    I really like the low and high tuning and That snare is a beauty. Great vid as always

    • @malonedrum
      @malonedrum  11 місяців тому

      Appreciate it! Thanks for watching

  • @jorymil
    @jorymil 4 місяці тому +1

    Is that The Brothers Johnson as the background music at the start? Ah... I see--backing track plus you!

  • @swingdrums
    @swingdrums 11 місяців тому +1

    I bought a Gretsch 80's kit once, the seller shipped Russian doll style and took the lugs off. When I put it back together, several of the lugs stripped, I found out those older lugs were self tapping lugs and had a high chance of stripping. Good news is the newer lugs fit perfect so I was able to replace the stripped ones. Looks like your drum didn't have that issue which is good.

    • @malonedrum
      @malonedrum  11 місяців тому

      Whew, thank god I didn't have that issue.

  • @NLind
    @NLind 11 місяців тому +1

    Another great video! Always look forward to Mondays and a new upload from you. And I recognized the last groove you did…

    • @malonedrum
      @malonedrum  11 місяців тому

      Awesome! Thank you!

  • @dipietrodrums
    @dipietrodrums 10 місяців тому +1

    I’m really enjoying your videos Mike! Keep up the good the great work!

  • @renatopestana9526
    @renatopestana9526 11 місяців тому +1

    I have one just like that in chrome over wood finish with a drop g badge. Amazing drum, the overtones sound great on it. You scared me with the emperor X head but I'm glad you didn't use it lol as for the rimshots in low tuning it happens to me as well. It detunes because with 10 lugs you have more contact points so the tension is distributed and when you tune them low there's just not enough tension to hold the screws on a rimshot. I use just one lug lock on the screw I'm more prone to rimshot over (on the left hand) and it did great, no more troubles with that. Great video, congrats for the snare

    • @malonedrum
      @malonedrum  11 місяців тому +1

      I did buy some lug locks, and it helped a bunch. I don’t live in low tunings, but that certainly helps for when I need and want that sound.

  • @JulianFernandez
    @JulianFernandez 11 місяців тому +1

    That Great Gretsch Sound!

  • @tobiaswinter1358
    @tobiaswinter1358 11 місяців тому +1

    These are just your most satisfying videos!

  • @danmcnaulty5778
    @danmcnaulty5778 11 місяців тому +1

    I am pretty sure I have this model. I purchased it for $500 AU in 1992, have toured and recorded with it a bunch. I have had similar issues with the tension rods. I like the high tuned muffled, medium and low tunings unruffled. I’d be keen to see what it’s worth now.

    • @malonedrum
      @malonedrum  11 місяців тому

      I don’t know the exchange rate or market in Au, but it’s worth a lot more I imagine

  • @BChiarcos
    @BChiarcos 8 місяців тому +1

    Very nice drum! Lol the emperor x was an interesting suggestion..

  • @dominicneeson1613
    @dominicneeson1613 11 місяців тому +1

    Sounding great, love the drum. Just wondering why did you put a triple flanged hoop on the bottom for the recording?

    • @malonedrum
      @malonedrum  11 місяців тому +1

      Good eye, when I was demoing it, I was worried the bottom rim was out of round, so I swapped it and ended up ordering a new die cast rim.

  • @davepounds8924
    @davepounds8924 11 місяців тому +1

    Nice snare! It’s great that you have the talent to work on the drums as it probably saves you a lot of money on drums that you can work on!!

    • @malonedrum
      @malonedrum  11 місяців тому

      I think drums are much more approachable for doing mods and restoring than other instruments, but maybe that's just me.

  • @brothermyke6523
    @brothermyke6523 11 місяців тому +1

    I loved all the tunings.

    • @malonedrum
      @malonedrum  11 місяців тому

      I think all the tunings were certainly use-able which makes this drum versatile, but I think I prefer the low the most and it's what will make me choose this specific drum over others I already own.

  • @drewwainacht4674
    @drewwainacht4674 7 місяців тому +1

    Hey Mike, Thanks for the vid! Do ever check bearing edges on your vintage purchases?

    • @malonedrum
      @malonedrum  7 місяців тому +1

      Only if I can't get it to sound good.

  • @fallenoakdrums
    @fallenoakdrums 11 місяців тому +1

    Hi Mike, I was surprised to see you using such coarse steel wool on the hoops. I usually go with aluminum foil or very fine steel wool, but I'm usually restoring junkier drums. Wondering if you'd care to share your thoughts on that?

    • @malonedrum
      @malonedrum  11 місяців тому +1

      I don’t remember it being that coarse, but I usually use aluminum foil as a default, but when I use something more abrasive, I work gently until I’m sure it won’t ruin the chrome.

  • @destination_percussion
    @destination_percussion 11 місяців тому +1

    Beautiful drum, Mike! love the vids and that drum is killer! I've been looking for one of those 70's Gretsch snares in that finish myself. Keep smackin!

    • @malonedrum
      @malonedrum  11 місяців тому +1

      The deep ones are hard to find, but worth it!

  • @jpgl4417
    @jpgl4417 11 місяців тому +1

    Great Nirvana intro !! :)

  • @emrahercancakir
    @emrahercancakir 11 місяців тому +1

    Mike, what was that thing you did on minute 13:02 it was Awesome 💯 ! perhaps make a quick tutorial on it? thanks!

    • @malonedrum
      @malonedrum  11 місяців тому +1

      Just mixing in some linear stuff. Kicks between hands and all that. Plenty of great stuff with that on UA-cam already.

    • @emrahercancakir
      @emrahercancakir 11 місяців тому +1

      @@malonedrum for us beginners out there... what does linear mean (in this context)? LOL 😆

    • @malonedrum
      @malonedrum  11 місяців тому +1

      @@emrahercancakirit means playing one thing at a time, so playing kick drums between hands in the context here. It has a pretty cool vibe to it.

    • @emrahercancakir
      @emrahercancakir 11 місяців тому

      @@malonedrum it sure does. I will need to add this to my practice routine. Thank you Mike!

  • @arturofernandez6088
    @arturofernandez6088 10 місяців тому +1

    Great work and video! 🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼

  • @crookedboot2727
    @crookedboot2727 10 місяців тому +1

    I like Hi tuning, muffler on, snare on, I have the same snare, great snare

  • @SonofWatts-c9t
    @SonofWatts-c9t 11 місяців тому +1

    Another great video, Mike. Just curious about why you decided not to give the lug holders some cotton for added sound proofing.

    • @malonedrum
      @malonedrum  11 місяців тому

      I didn’t hear it as an issue, but in retrospect, I wish I had done it while it was apart, just in case.

  • @Olli3_Morris
    @Olli3_Morris 11 місяців тому +1

    Great video man!! I know this video was about the snare, but I love the sound of your toms, they sound awesome! Those rootseq on toms are so good, i remember chatting with Jordan rose after a Cory Wong gig and he absolutely loves them too!!

    • @malonedrum
      @malonedrum  11 місяців тому +1

      I love Jordan’s playing, and I see toms of drummers relying on them to tighten up the toms just right.

  • @waltgdrums1
    @waltgdrums1 11 місяців тому +1

    How did you end up with a triple flange hoop on the resonant side?

    • @malonedrum
      @malonedrum  11 місяців тому

      Good eye, I swapped it out during the demo because I was worried the bottom hoop was out of round, I actually went a picked up a new die cast hoops as well.

  • @frankcianciarulo7823
    @frankcianciarulo7823 11 місяців тому +1

    Another great video Mike. If you have a chance to try 42stand wires, I would recommend it. Also, my understanding is the company crossed out the ‘life time guarantee’ info on the shell.

    • @malonedrum
      @malonedrum  11 місяців тому

      I have some 42 strands (or maybe they are 30 strands) on my Chrome Over Brass, and it's just too much buss for me as a jazzy drummer who likes tight articulation, but on the gushy drums, it's great.

  • @Garagedrummer
    @Garagedrummer 11 місяців тому +1

    Sounds great! Love this channel. Quick question, what snare stand are you using? Love the swaying motion while playing.

    • @malonedrum
      @malonedrum  11 місяців тому

      I believe it's just your standard everyday Yamaha stand?

  • @randyhendrickson
    @randyhendrickson 9 місяців тому +1

    Hey Mike:
    Great video. I just may have a snare drum that you would love to have, mid to late 70s 14 X 6.5 Black, almost perfect Gretsch Snare Drum. Give me a response if you would love to see some pics.

    • @malonedrum
      @malonedrum  9 місяців тому

      Send me an email at malonedrum@gmail.com and we’ll see!

  • @boldstardex
    @boldstardex 11 місяців тому +1

    nice video! Question: Do you recommend putting wood polish to drums (ex. pledge wood polish spray)?

    • @malonedrum
      @malonedrum  11 місяців тому +1

      I don't typically find it necessary usually, I typically go for soapy water as it's very safe.

    • @boldstardex
      @boldstardex 11 місяців тому

      oh.ok.How about the lugs? do you recommend metal polish or just wd40?
      @@malonedrum

    • @malonedrum
      @malonedrum  11 місяців тому +1

      @@boldstardex It''s really not my place to say, but I go over my approach in this video, so watch it and decide for yourself and your situation!

  • @FadjarMoeljarto
    @FadjarMoeljarto 11 місяців тому +1

    My first drum is gtretch energy, but sound is wonderfull.. 🥁👍

    • @malonedrum
      @malonedrum  11 місяців тому +1

      Those are great, you’re lucky to start on such a nice kit!

    • @FadjarMoeljarto
      @FadjarMoeljarto 11 місяців тому

      @@malonedrum yups...thank you bro, goood luck👍

  • @garrettguadiana1327
    @garrettguadiana1327 11 місяців тому +1

    The Dave Grohl
    Fill/entro was a good touch.

    • @malonedrum
      @malonedrum  11 місяців тому +1

      Just try to imitate where I hear this sort of drum being played.

  • @cymbalism1
    @cymbalism1 11 місяців тому +1

    It’s nice to look at but I could never get into Gretsch wood snares. To me they always have some wonky sound to them. I love their COB snares though!!

    • @malonedrum
      @malonedrum  11 місяців тому

      I also have a COB from the 60s and it’s a special drum, I just love the warmth of wood.

    • @cymbalism1
      @cymbalism1 11 місяців тому

      @@malonedrum I like wood snares too, just not Gretsch snares. I absolutely love their drums (TT and BD) , just not their wood snares. I have a 60’s 20BD, 12TT, 14FT, 16FT..all in natural finish. They’re gorgeous!!! Plus I’ve owned numerous other Gretsch kits over the ages. Now they’re kinda pricey as people are on to their amazing tones…That Great Gretsch Sound as it’s put

  • @justhadrums
    @justhadrums 11 місяців тому +1

    Yep, knew emp x would be a no-go. Everybody seems to love them but they're just too thick period. However, the CS x is the greatest snare head. Another thing about these drums are the way the snare beds were done back then: deep and narrow - a totally different snare response and hard to get snap and crack. I redid the edges and beds on mine, but then it's not original of course.

    • @malonedrum
      @malonedrum  11 місяців тому

      A learning experience with the head, very one dimensional.

  • @ryanthomasdrumz
    @ryanthomasdrumz 11 місяців тому +1

    That Ryan guy seems pretty cool and likes the beef

    • @malonedrum
      @malonedrum  11 місяців тому +1

      He had killer hair, but then he gave up on it.

  • @adammono1839
    @adammono1839 11 місяців тому +1

    Fretboard cleaner is great stuff, but it contains some silicone, which can make glueing very difficult if you need to do any repairs. Heads up for future projects
    Great work though!

    • @malonedrum
      @malonedrum  11 місяців тому

      Thanks for the info!

    • @adammono1839
      @adammono1839 11 місяців тому

      No prob. Absolute cannon in the end btw. I've had a 10 lug 6.5x14 wood catalina club snare for years and I love it, but I don't feel comfortable with it exactly. It can be a bit wild and excitable! And yes, drops tuning with rim shots

  • @matthewsherman9765
    @matthewsherman9765 11 місяців тому +1

    Gretsch need to seriously utilize some DW R&R and update the lightning like Ludwig did to their P series throws.

    • @malonedrum
      @malonedrum  11 місяців тому

      Agreed! That was the one thing I was excited about with DW getting into the Gretsch business.

  • @jaymeramirez7435
    @jaymeramirez7435 11 місяців тому +1

    That fat sound is perfect.

  • @southernfriedawesomeness9464
    @southernfriedawesomeness9464 11 місяців тому +1

    They sharpied the paper tag frpm the factoty..

    • @malonedrum
      @malonedrum  11 місяців тому

      That's what I'm hearing, and that's hilarious that was a factory approach.

  • @freelancedrums
    @freelancedrums 11 місяців тому +3

    Gretsch factory worker would have altered the internal label at a time when gretsch got rid of the lifetime guarantee.

    • @malonedrum
      @malonedrum  11 місяців тому

      That makes it even more hilarious!

  • @caferrara
    @caferrara 11 місяців тому +1

    Sounds very boxy.

    • @malonedrum
      @malonedrum  11 місяців тому

      What do you mean by that in a technical sense?

    • @caferrara
      @caferrara 11 місяців тому

      It has a thud sound, like hitting a cardboard box, and not much character. But that is not your fault. Gretsch wood drums have a bad reputation for being boxy, as Steve Maxwell likes to say. But the COB Gretsch is a classic. I do have a 1950s Gretsch wood snare that has a nice low end bark to it. @@malonedrum

    • @malonedrum
      @malonedrum  11 місяців тому

      @@caferrara Interesting, I don't hear them that way, but everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

    • @caferrara
      @caferrara 11 місяців тому

      I'd like to hear it at a jazz tuning. It might sound great. @@malonedrum

    • @caferrara
      @caferrara 11 місяців тому

      Oh, you did tune it high. Well, for whatever my opinion is worth, it still has a boxy sound. Maybe it's my speakers. Really like your playing, by the way. A real pro.