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Every once in a while you find a reviewer that understands what we want from a video like this. Straight to the point, carefully opinionated and concise. Thank you! Will likely grab a T7V since my room size aint that big.
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I know these are built to mix, but would you say they can double as speakers to listen to music that is already mastered? I’ve been hearing mixed review as to if these sound too flat to play music casually.
@@lukeesham2562 Hi, these are reference monitors intended for mixing and mastering. Their sole purpose is to play back the music as neutral as possible, and with as good audio quality as possible. They are also nearfield monitors, so they're not as effective at angles compared to general HIFI speakers. HIFI speakers often tend to sound different, or "better" according to many because they do not play back the sound in a neutral manner. They typically amplify certain frequency regions, to try and make the low-end sound better and so on. So it can be a bit misleading. If the bass becomes louder on a HIFI speaker, it will usually sound better because "louder" always sounds better to humans. On the other hand, if you want to experience music the exact way that the original composer intended it, then you'll get the most realistic experience with studio monitors like this. They also have built in amplifiers so you won't have to think about that. They will require you to sit right in front of them (the golden triangle) to get a good listening experience though. So, there are pros and cons when it comes to using these as hi-fi speakers for casual music listening. Some really enjoy studio monitors, and others think of them as flat and more "boring" . The truth is that they represent music exactly as it "is", and it is the hifi speakers that actually "adds" something to the sound, making them sound more exiting (most of the time). :)
@@lukeesham2562 i know there are better and expensive Monitors like focal, Adam, Dynaudio, but i use everyday for hours and hours the hs8's in casual listening (spotify, youtube, you name it) and not seems to need another pair, and never had ear fatigue
My first pair of speakers were a pair of Eris 3.5s and I quickly learned that's way too small to do anything with the low end. Was looking to upgrade and might get a pair of Adam t8vs. Love the review!
Glad you liked the review! Indeed, It's difficult to mix low-end on such small monitors, that's for sure. The 8" makes it much easier. Anything larger than that and you'll start to degrade the mid-range, unless it's a 3 way setup. The T8V and the HS8 are among the best 8" monitors you can get in this price range. :)
unbelievable review, straight to the point, very very static, which is superb and so to the point. you didnt miss a beat, and your narration style is perfectly balanced, i didnt even get tired listening....so in a sense you're more like the T8V but also offered great midrange tone, so also like the HS8. Thanks for providing straight to the point content not like other reviewers outhere that drain the hell out of the listeners to give little. You said enough and gave plenty!! I love your last sentence : People have dissimilar hearing, which mean that different people will always prefer one over the other, very true in the audio world.
Adam has very good upper range as expected from its tweeters but overall I prefer the Yamaha's due to its balanced natural sound. I personally use the HS7 with HS8S sub that works out quite good. Very nice balanced review.
First i buy the HS7. I missed low end. Them i decide to drive to the biggest music store and hear 20-30 monitors side by side. And i figuer out that tha yamahas have a mid range overboost. The adam more linear. Also the the adam ribbon tweeter is a whole class over the yamahas. I bought the adam t8v and the are way more better than the Yamahas.
Good for you then! T8V are great monitor for a price, same goes with Yamaha HS8 which were my choice and preference over Adam T8V, while in the end we both get what we pay for : )))
Have been using HS8's for sometime. I share your practice of keeping the volume at the 50% point and never ever had a need for more volume. I did experiment with other settings but found this was the best position for more-than-enough volume and clarity. The low end on these is great, and the overall musicality is exceptional. I consider them a great overall value. Yamaha has been a reliable technology vendor for me since my teen years in the 1970s. I am about to buy HS5 to offer a smaller option in the same room. Thanks for this video.
In my opinion all speakers should be flat (no matter what kind) and flavouring should be applied through an equalizer that is either separate or inside the amp's DSP. The reason is that every room has a different acoustic, and thus it is easier to dial in your preference if you can use a flat base as a starting point rather than having to figure out the frequency response of the speaker first. Which depending on how much range the equalizer has might not even be correctable.
I use the Yamaha hs5, as I have a small room. I use always use ATR70x open back headphones, they are very light and I literally feel like I’m listening to my speakers as they are open back, very natural. They have a very flat midrange, one of the flattest in the game. My mixes truly started translating. As they are open back headphones their low end rolls off around 100-90HZ, I use Dt770 pros closed back to really check the lowend. I don’t know if it’s my skills which developed or my listening medium that drastically improved my mixes. Id say it’s a bit of both.
I compared this guys in the nearby studio shop (Hitspace) and the Adam T8V is the clear winner for me. A lot better high, and the same mid and low frequencies. After one year of use I still 100% satisfied with it.
T8v for the win.When I tried them both I falled in love with the sound of the t8v.(t8v is probably the most accurate speaker in this price range)Probably if I had more money I would have bought adam s3v or a8x,or something from APS.Although yamaha is very good it just cant beat adam audio.
The Adams are great. People seem to have a kind of love hate relationship with ribbon tweeters. Some love them and others can't stand them. We all have very different hearing so people will never agree on what's "best". Personally I can't really make up my mind when it comes to these two. They're both very good in their own way. I prefer the low mids on the Yamaha's, but I also really like the Adam's clarity in the highs. I think both of these are among the best you can get for the price.
@@lisaredsatl2571 On paper the T8V is louder but in reality, you won't notice much difference. They can both play loud enough to damage your hearing, so you should never push them to the limit. It would be best if you always mixed on reasonably low volume, and only increase it every now and then to check the low-end, etc.
Hi, thanks! I always post-process the audio with EQ, compression, etc to make it as good as possible. I don't just record straight on top of the video. It's a bit more time consuming, but I always try to go by quality over quantity :)
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I use Avantones for midrange. The speed in dialing clarity I achieved on the first mix I did on them, was night and day. That mix was originally done on 2-way speakers and I thought it was clear enough then but it took a lot longer. They exist for a very good reason.
@@wapanglemdur If you're only producing mono tracks, then you only need one. I use two because, although I do mix in mono and technically I could use one, I still need to mix for stereo systems and these speakers are superior for making sure the midrange is in phase and clear while in stero mode. So, having only one is not a solution for me. If you want to use one and then guess if your midrange is clear on your normal stereo 2-ways...go for it. I can't work like that.
Mann this video shows very well how big 8' monitors actually are, it's almost scary haha! so hard to decide on what to buy! I also have the RCF ayra pro on the list.
Thx for mentioning the Kali Audio! I have been on thomann for years but I've never looked at this brand! I think I will try this one Kali Audio IN8 v2!
Always the high crossover frequence of the adam is named as a problem. But this isn't so. Hear them and you will hear that this is only a theoretical argumentation.
This was one of the best explanations and discussions about studio monitors - thx! I am in the market for some and its not easy... I want dual use. To be able to create backing tracks and then play guitar along to them - all at home
It matters what the response curve within the stated range is. 33hz for 1 speaker could be 6db down from flat response and another could be 40hz at 3db down. THAT determines how there would be sonic differences. I'll take the Audioengine A5 for my 10 x 12 bedroom ty. From what I have gleaned... the weakness of ribbon tweeters is dispersion width and having to position them directly, on either side, at the sweetspot you want.
Both great, tried both but found the HS8's had a much better clarity midrange wise and smoother sound overall. Tweeter on the T8V was a little harsh but could have been the demo settings. Best using some songs from yesteryear to hear a good range of sounds
@@thomasfroland762 While it is possible to mix solely on headphones, I still recommend having monitors too. Check out this video: Headphones VS Monitors - What's best for mixing: ua-cam.com/video/ifwb_qKQNhU/v-deo.html
Thanks for the review. I am presently looked for some new monitor speakers. As for having a notched volume knob, I saw a test of a set of monitor speakers with that type of knob where even though the knobs were set to the same notch, the speakers where not at the same volume level when tested.
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Hs8 for more accurate reproduction, t8v for that hifi hyped sound. I used to use hs7's which weren't the best, but in the 8 inch range for budget speakers it's definitely gotta be Yamaha. 💯 Great comparison video 👍🏿
Has anyone used the Adam Audio T8V for Helix and Guitar? I've heard the Yamaha and wanted to know more about the Adam speakers. Are they worth the extra money?
I am totally willing to pay the extra for the HS8, but I have a tiny room for music making and think the extra bass may be more of a problem than an asset. I think I'm going for the HS5s as a result!
I read that someone else was worried about the boomy bass in a small room, but he had no problem as he kept the speakers on volume notch 2 usually and had great sound
@@lundsweden if it works for you then that's what is important. It's just speaker size for room size is a myth. For your information. It's wattage that is important. The larger the speaker the higher the wattage which equals less distortion. You can run an 8" speaker at the same volume as a 5" speaker but get a much clearer image because there is less cone distortion, not to mention the frequency range. If you can't hear it you can't engineer it.
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Placement should be ideal for that room, which was way too small btw. It was just a temporary room I used while I built my current studio, so they ended up in the corner, which isn't ideal. The angles were right though, and the tweeter was the same height as my ears, etc. That's the most important thing. You want to align it as a triangle, with an equal distance between each monitor and the length from each monitor and to you.
*HS8s* 100db Max SPL 120W (75/45) 38Hz - 30KHz Frequency Response. (Anything above 18KHz isn't going to be heard by most adults) *800* *Dollars* (pair) *T8V* 118db Max SPL 90W (70/20) 35Hz - 25KHz Frequency Response. (Anything above 18KHz isn't going to be heard by most adults) *600* *Dollars* (pair)
I would not recommend either model based on current prices. I listened to the Yamahas and Adams and tested the Presonus r80 as a third reference. The R80s have much better midrange imaging than the Adam t8V and have equally fine resolution. I found the yamahas to be tiring in the upper mids and not as strong in the top end.
For my dj sets i have them f7s and sub7 and for my productions the s2vs tried yamahas never gel with their flat but guess it works for many others. On a side note on affordable monitors i tried them monkey bananas turbo8s and i was extreme impressed by their poweful low end response
People have very different hearing so we're all going to prefer different monitors. :) Both of these are very good, but some people prefer the HS8 and some the T8V. I recommend that you listen to both before you make up your own mind. Don't just listen to what any one person says, because your experience might be very different. :) Here's a good example of how different hearing we all actually have: ua-cam.com/video/FaDhBq598kA/v-deo.html
I had the T7Vs Adams and sent it back after 5 days. I couldnt handle the boomy bass from them. I bought then the HS8s and I love them!!! Bigger bass, less boomy, more clarity!!
The T8V sounds very different from the T7V. Likewise, the T7V can't be compared to the HS8. That increase in woofer size really makes a huge difference to the fullness of the sound. The thing about ribbon tweeters though is that people either love it or hate it. :) It just goes to show how different hearing we all have, and how differently we perceive sound. By the way, I have a rather interesting video about that here: ua-cam.com/video/FaDhBq598kA/v-deo.html It's fun to see how some people hear one thing and others something completely different. I suppose it's that way with studio monitors too. Some will say a particular monitor is boomy, some will say it's too thin. The most important thing is that you find something that you are happy with, and that works well in your particular room. You need something that you feel is working with you, not against you, so if something doesn't feel right, try something else. That's the right approach :)
How about the HS8 vs T7V for listening only? You mentioned the mids smoothness of the T7V over the 8 so not sure how the mids of the 7 compare with the HS8.
I have found a pair of adam t7vs and yamaha hs8s for a very similar price, and I often produce dance/edm music [and sometimes trap] - which one should I go for?
SPAN is a good plugin if you only got small speakers to mix with. Mixing with your eyes can be done if you know what to do, but it can sure as hell also wreck your mix if you don't know how :P
Indeed! Visual aids can be very helpful, but only as a reference. I always recommend that people trust their ears first and foremost, but you can't always trust them fully due to room acoustics and so on, so visual aids can be a good complement to help you out. It's like with food. A famous chef once said that that you also eat with your eyes. If it looks good, then it tastes better too. :) So I'd say you need to make sure that it sounds good first, and then double-check with visual aids to make sure that what you hear is "correct" :)
Hi , I would like to hear your opinnion as an expert for more to listening to music and less mixing monitor as a suggestion to me. Thanks for the videos btw.
I still don’t know which monitors to buy, actually I need monitors that have very clean Low end… and very accurate sound, best in EQ range 20hz to 30khz .. someone some advice?
You'll have all the low-end you need from the sub so if you're after maximum clarity then that might not be a good idea. It depends on your room size though. If you have a medium large room then I would consider the T8V anyways. The difference in terms of clarity is rather minor really, and personally I think the low-end response makes up for it, and it's also often easier to mix with larger main monitors rather than having to rely on a subwoofer, as you'll get a more realistic result with the main monitors. With the sub you also have to factor in issues with ideal placement, getting the level synced perfectly and so on.
heya i hope that you are doing fine i want to purchase studio monitors... but i am confused between HS8 and T7V here in india HS8 are cheaper than T7V HS8 costs around 301$ and T7V around 335$ (for each) which in indian currency is a big difference. I am getting HS 8 at lower price then T7V but I have also heard that Adams are better than yamahas so IS IT worth buying costly smaller size monitor or should i go for HS8 PLEASE SUGGEST
I don't know what kind of music you make, but assuming you make EDM and bass-heavy music in general, then I would go for the HS8 if I were you. If you produce classical music or something, and clarity is the most important thing, then the T7V would probably be the best choice.
Hi, reference monitors like these are very flat and they are also nearfield monitors, so you kind of have to sit in that "triangle" in order to make them sound good. HIFI speakers are much wider and will usually sweeten up the sound a bit too (which is obviously not ideal for a mix engineer). When it comes to hifi speakers it's down to personal taste really. What I like someone else might hate and vice versa. I like DALI speakers myself. Good sound and not terribly expensive.
It's a much smaller speaker so they're not directly comparable to the 8" HS8 and T8V. It would be more comparable to the T5V and the HS5. That said, I find them to be surprisingly well balanced, and I actually prefer the pioneers to 5" Rokits for example, which I've always found to be a little bit too low-end heavy and colored. I think both the HS5 and the T5V provides slightly better sound quality overall, but they are also more expensive.
@@FireWalkMusic Do you think it might be worth spending more than twice as much for A7Vs? Or do you think the jump in performance from T7Vs to A7Vs is not worth the price increase?🤔
haha! I can understand that :) It looks worse than it is though. The desk actually extends outwards from there, because the top area is intended for studio monitor placement. So the entire monitor is actually standing firmly on the desk itself :) Check out the "Glorious studio desk" and you'll see what I mean: images.musicstore.de/images/1280/glorious-workbench-white-_1_DJE0003475-000.jpg
Could anyone please tell me if it would be possible to use an external DAC ( not some cheap one ) with those monitors? Would it help to improve the sound quality? Thank you
Thanks for comparison!! Do you think it might be worth spending more than twice as much for A7Vs? Or do you think the jump in performance from T7Vs to A7Vs is not worth the price increase?
If you can afford it then go for the A7V. It's a whole different beast and a huge difference in clarity and balance. The T series is a budget monitor, and it sounds like a budget monitor too,. They all do. When taking that next step up to the A series, which is somewhere in between budget monitors and high-end monitors, you'll notice a huge improvement in clarity and balance. I recommend that you check out my review of tte A7V here on my channel.
Studio monitors in general have very flat frequency response curves because they are intended to be 100% neutral, as opposed to HiFi speakers. Monitors can therefore sound more boring to some people. That said, if you want to experience the music exactly the way the composer intended it, then studio monitors will work fine. Note that they are often nearfield monitors, so you need to have them positioned correctly. Hihi speakers are not so delicate, so those can be placed further apart.
@@FireWalkMusic I am primarily using them as computer speakers. But I have built very large studio monitors that were very expensive and flat that I used as home speakers and I like the same non coloured sound for my computer when relaxing. Where I live I don't have the chance to audition many speakers. I am going to the only Audio shop with monitors tomorrow and they have the T8v's, the HS8's, Kali LP-8 and the Focal Alpha 80. I do love ribbon speakers though because of the airiness. I will be adding either a JBL or an Adam studio sub to the speakers as well. Speakers will be mounted a bit higher then they should be but pointed down and 5' apart. edit: I really appreciate that you take the time to talk to your audience. Cheers!
I actually listen to lots of music myself. The t8v has a wider sweet spot, but the hs8 is slightly warmer in the mids. You can't go wrong with either of these. Some people really love Ribbon tweeters and how they sound, others hate it. I suggest listening to both and then make up your mind. :)
Hi, I haven't seen any fake ones where I live so it's hard to say. If you buy them from a reputable company then i think you should be fairly safe. If you fear that you have a fake one then I would suggest contacting Yamaha and provide them with the serial number on the back to make sure.
@@spicecrop high end boost is bad on the t8vs yamaha’s hs8 has the best midrange for this price range and also better low end clarity. the depth is huge.
The thing that annoys me with the T8V is that they've probably saved a few cents per monitor by not having notched volume knobs -- the T8Vs not even at 0dB.
Nice! I Can’t decide between the tv8, the hs8 and the new kali in 8 v2. Out of these two in the video, which one handles port noise better? Meaning which one has less audible air turbulence when pushed at louder levels?
Studio monitors are often a very personal thing. We all have different hearing and some people will always prefer one over the other, regardless of the specifications. Some really love ribbon tweeters and some hate them, I recommend that you go to a store and listen to all of them before you make up your mind. These two are my own personal favorites. Regarding port noise, there's no noticeable difference. The diameter of the port is pretty much the same. The important thing when it comes to rear-ported monitors is to try and avoid pushing it right into the rear wall or a corner. As long as you have a little bit of space behind it then it usually won't be a problem. Because you'll have cables sticking out back there, it's going to be impossible to get it all the way back towards the wall anyways, and as long as you have some distance this usually won't be any problem at all. :)
@@FireWalkMusic I agree with everything you said, these two are great studio monitors and it’s hard to choose. Best thing to do is like you said go to the store and listen to them in person and decide. My choice will end up being which ever one can go louder without distorting. Adam t8v have a Max spl of 118db but only 90 watts and the Yamaha Hs8 have a max spl of 100db which seems much lower but it has more power 120 watts. Not sure why the t8v is only 90 watts but they both do sound identical from what I’ve heard. Like you said, Yamahas have slightly more and better mids. The t8v reach slightly lower than the hs8s but it’s not too much of a difference. T8vs are $600 a pair and the hs8s are about $740 a pair. With all that said, u can’t go wrong with either of these studio monitors. Thanks for the video ✔️
@@thehottestbeatz Indeed, either of these should be a good buy. Regarding the power, the T8Vs are indeed louder with less power than the HS8. The reason for this is that the T8Vs are slightly more efficient, so they don't need as much power. The ribbon tweeter in particular will move more air with half the power, compared to the dome tweeter in the HS8.
What I like about Adam Audios budget monitors is that they don't put anything in there that's not 100% necessary. No fancy LCD displays on the back, no illuminated logo, no notched volume control etc. Instead they've focused all their energy (and money) on making them sound as good as possible. You get what you pay for :)
To "hear" them somewhere, in a room one does not know, without an experience working with either of these in the question, hardly qualifies the preference as "better" buy. It simply states, that you liked one of them better. Nothing wrong with that. But that is all.
Adam T8V's controls on the back panel are real basic. Not sure if this thing has an auto power daving / auto off feature, and if it does, can it be defeated, i.e. switched off? Also, Adam Audio had somehow "forgot" to include a 1/4-inch TRS balanced input jack. How weird is that -- considering that 99% of the studio monitor controllers use 1/4-inch TRS and not XLR. Whatever. I guess that is all that USD $300 will buy you these days.
They are indeed quite basic. I talked to Adam Audio about the features of the T-series a while back and they explained that they placed all their attention and focus on the sound quality. They wanted to make a budget monitor that sounds great. As was said in the video too, you don't typically see ribbon tweeters in this price range, because they are so expensive to make. So, in order to get the price as low as it is, they had to sacrifice anything that's not 100% needed, such as fancy LCD panels on the back, illuminated logo in the front, additional inputs and outputs etc. There is no auto on / off feature either, and that's the case with the HS8 as well. In my experience though, that's perfectly OK. A lot of people find that function annoying, especially when it can't be manually disabled. Personally I think all this is an acceptable compromise, unless you really really need some of those inputs / outputs etc. Personally I prefer balanced XLR over pure TRS cables, like this for example: geni.us/monoprice104761 They're TRS in one end and XLR in the other. You get what you pay for, and in this case you pay for superior sound quality. I think people should always aim for the best possible sound quality first and foremost. These won't sound as good as a pair of $20000 monitors of course, but they definitely offer some of the best sound quality you can get within this price range. :)
I've had a pair of these for about 8 years and they have proved to be fantastic as near field monitors. They are on for hours and hours on end and are not fatiguing. My reference monitors are Bowers and Wilkins 802's which are obviously at a different level and I use these for critical listening, but the Yamahas give you the information you need to make recording and mixing decisions.
@@bren.r I had a pair of HS8's. I upgraded to Adam A77X which are double front ported horizontal 3 ways with the X-Art tweeters, but the HS8's are not to be underestimated. Not in the same class as the A77X's but they are not humiliated.
Hi, I decided against this because the audio will be heavily influenced by my microphone and my room. Furthermore, when you playback the audio it will be further colored by whatever monitor or headphones you use to play it back. It can never sound any better or worse than whatever equipment you play it back on. I've experimented with this in the past and often times the sound ends up sounding nothing like the real thing, and I didn't want anyone to get the wrong impression.
@@FireWalkMusic okay, it makes sense. Perhaps a more scientific approach using software may be helpful. I find studio monitors comparison quite problematic since they will be colored y the room. And also most of the time people do the review for a UA-cam video without actually calibrating the speakers as recommended by the manufacturer and spending months mixing with it. Thanks anyway for getting back to me 😎🤓
Pretty big room, I think you should go for 8" to achieve a better low-end, even though HS7 is a bit more flat in the mid range. But firstly you need a treated room.
I’m a bit confused. I want to buy the Yamahas. I noticed they sell them in singles, yet they are active. I’ve had a few pairs of active speakers and there’s always been one powered and one a slave/ passive. How does it work with them? Thanks man.
They are sold as singles since each speaker is identical. Audio interface will have 2 monitor output at lease (Left and Right) with balanced TRS, you can get a 1/4 TRS to XLR cable for this purpose, goes into each speaker for left and right channel. If they offer RCA and you wish to use RCA for whatever reason it’s the same idea. Ideally balanced TRS output to XLR from a decent audio interface would be better than using a 3.5mm to RCA output from a PC.
@@thebandcordero thanks mate. I have some JBL monitors and one has a volume control etc, where the other has nothing, just the sockets for the speaker wire. Sorry for the late reply btw.
@@WhiskyTanuki Thanks Whisky. yeah I get the wiring process, I was just wondering how it worked with an amp in each speaker, but I see what you mean. Both left and right TRS outputs go in to one speaker in my current set up (JBL active speakers with only one amp in one speaker which feeds a passive speaker).
@@StarWarsJay Yea usually each speakers have 2 amps for 2-Way, 3 amps for 3-Way active studio monitors. One of many benefits of this design (having identical speakers), if one fail, you can pick up a new one/rental right away and continue working, vs having to buy a new pair.
I use a pair of Yamaha HS8 since 4 years and I'm realy happy with them. It's unfortunate Adam Audio doesn't make "T8H", H, for an horizontal positioning. On my side the possibilty to put the monitors horizontaly or not is a deal breaker, they have to be horizontal in my current studio setup.
@@kennylux Yes and No..😏. As their tweeters' waveguides are round, same shape on 360° all around, you can listen to them in any position, the distribution of the high frequencies will not be affected. BUT You are perfectly right, Yamaha recommends to put them verticaly for cooling reasons (The location of the inner amp components and the shape of the heater behind. It makes sens). On my side I've no choice than put them horizontaly.🥴
I have just recently downgraded my studio stuff my previous monitors were the kh120a and the hs7 i found a very good deal on the adam t7v so i thought id see what all the good reviews were about and honestly i am blown away! they sound miles better than the hs7, hs7 give me headaches lol they are comparable to the kh120a i am not saying they are better by all means but i do not regret downgrading, im not going to talk frequency's but I'm going to talk about what i am hearing best way to compare the kh120a to the adam tv7 is adams sound a bit more coloured/hifi but they are picking up everything i hear on the kh120a, kh120a sound more neutral sorry im rambling about other monitors lol but my point is the adams are amazing, they should be 2x more! the main bad side is the led indicator is at the back etc but great monitors well done adam! by the way guys this is my opinion we all have different ears lol
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Every once in a while you find a reviewer that understands what we want from a video like this. Straight to the point, carefully opinionated and concise. Thank you! Will likely grab a T7V since my room size aint that big.
I agree with you 100%
100%
My HS8 suffered a serious fire accident and a fall from like 3 feet, still playing as new.
They can truly stand a beating :)
@H0T-Vlog Go to My Channel use the back switches, are made for that, and use a power regulator for taking care in case of electricity variatons, and yes i think a general switch can be dangerous because is like a river door, let the power go with more strength
I know these are built to mix, but would you say they can double as speakers to listen to music that is already mastered? I’ve been hearing mixed review as to if these sound too flat to play music casually.
@@lukeesham2562 Hi, these are reference monitors intended for mixing and mastering. Their sole purpose is to play back the music as neutral as possible, and with as good audio quality as possible.
They are also nearfield monitors, so they're not as effective at angles compared to general HIFI speakers. HIFI speakers often tend to sound different, or "better" according to many because they do not play back the sound in a neutral manner. They typically amplify certain frequency regions, to try and make the low-end sound better and so on.
So it can be a bit misleading. If the bass becomes louder on a HIFI speaker, it will usually sound better because "louder" always sounds better to humans.
On the other hand, if you want to experience music the exact way that the original composer intended it, then you'll get the most realistic experience with studio monitors like this. They also have built in amplifiers so you won't have to think about that.
They will require you to sit right in front of them (the golden triangle) to get a good listening experience though.
So, there are pros and cons when it comes to using these as hi-fi speakers for casual music listening. Some really enjoy studio monitors, and others think of them as flat and more "boring" .
The truth is that they represent music exactly as it "is", and it is the hifi speakers that actually "adds" something to the sound, making them sound more exiting (most of the time). :)
@@lukeesham2562 i know there are better and expensive Monitors like focal, Adam, Dynaudio, but i use everyday for hours and hours the hs8's in casual listening (spotify, youtube, you name it) and not seems to need another pair, and never had ear fatigue
My first pair of speakers were a pair of Eris 3.5s and I quickly learned that's way too small to do anything with the low end. Was looking to upgrade and might get a pair of Adam t8vs. Love the review!
Glad you liked the review! Indeed, It's difficult to mix low-end on such small monitors, that's for sure. The 8" makes it much easier. Anything larger than that and you'll start to degrade the mid-range, unless it's a 3 way setup. The T8V and the HS8 are among the best 8" monitors you can get in this price range. :)
I currently have the 3.5s as well, and I do want to upgrade, I just don't know if yamaha's adam's /:
@@nuhrel7389 Either of those should work very well :)
unbelievable review, straight to the point, very very static, which is superb and so to the point. you didnt miss a beat, and your narration style is perfectly balanced, i didnt even get tired listening....so in a sense you're more like the T8V but also offered great midrange tone, so also like the HS8. Thanks for providing straight to the point content not like other reviewers outhere that drain the hell out of the listeners to give little. You said enough and gave plenty!! I love your last sentence : People have dissimilar hearing, which mean that different people will always prefer one over the other, very true in the audio world.
Adam has very good upper range as expected from its tweeters but overall I prefer the Yamaha's due to its balanced natural sound. I personally use the HS7 with HS8S sub that works out quite good. Very nice balanced review.
Thanks! Glad you liked it 😃
@@II-jv9yx great combo there, the top end as well as mid end and natural bass is what Yamaha is all about provided the source is true.
First i buy the HS7. I missed low end. Them i decide to drive to the biggest music store and hear 20-30 monitors side by side. And i figuer out that tha yamahas have a mid range overboost. The adam more linear. Also the the adam ribbon tweeter is a whole class over the yamahas. I bought the adam t8v and the are way more better than the Yamahas.
Good for you then! T8V are great monitor for a price, same goes with Yamaha HS8 which were my choice and preference over Adam T8V, while in the end we both get what we pay for : )))
Have been using HS8's for sometime. I share your practice of keeping the volume at the 50% point and never ever had a need for more volume. I did experiment with other settings but found this was the best position for more-than-enough volume and clarity. The low end on these is great, and the overall musicality is exceptional. I consider them a great overall value. Yamaha has been a reliable technology vendor for me since my teen years in the 1970s. I am about to buy HS5 to offer a smaller option in the same room. Thanks for this video.
In my opinion all speakers should be flat (no matter what kind) and flavouring should be applied through an equalizer that is either separate or inside the amp's DSP. The reason is that every room has a different acoustic, and thus it is easier to dial in your preference if you can use a flat base as a starting point rather than having to figure out the frequency response of the speaker first. Which depending on how much range the equalizer has might not even be correctable.
That's your opinion...I like ABIT of top sparkle ✨
@@mobeatzleeds So use an EQ to add sparkle.
@@LogiForce86 In and out ...
To many times takes quality away from the source ...
I use the Yamaha hs5, as I have a small room. I use always use ATR70x open back headphones, they are very light and I literally feel like I’m listening to my speakers as they are open back, very natural. They have a very flat midrange, one of the flattest in the game. My mixes truly started translating. As they are open back headphones their low end rolls off around 100-90HZ, I use Dt770 pros closed back to really check the lowend. I don’t know if it’s my skills which developed or my listening medium that drastically improved my mixes. Id say it’s a bit of both.
Last week I've bought Adam T8V, from Yamaha HS7, I really love them🔥🔥🔥
There's a huge difference between 7 and 8" , that's for sure.
What an amazing analysis, thank you.
I compared this guys in the nearby studio shop (Hitspace) and the Adam T8V is the clear winner for me. A lot better high, and the same mid and low frequencies. After one year of use I still 100% satisfied with it.
Buy both! We run both sets with both matching subs. Incredible
for monitoring or listening to music
@@barneyrubble8255he must be in studio lol
T8v for the win.When I tried them both I falled in love with the sound of the t8v.(t8v is probably the most accurate speaker in this price range)Probably if I had more money I would have bought adam s3v or a8x,or something from APS.Although yamaha is very good it just cant beat adam audio.
The Adams are great. People seem to have a kind of love hate relationship with ribbon tweeters. Some love them and others can't stand them. We all have very different hearing so people will never agree on what's "best".
Personally I can't really make up my mind when it comes to these two. They're both very good in their own way. I prefer the low mids on the Yamaha's, but I also really like the Adam's clarity in the highs.
I think both of these are among the best you can get for the price.
@@FireWalkMusic ...which of them are louder?
@@lisaredsatl2571 On paper the T8V is louder but in reality, you won't notice much difference. They can both play loud enough to damage your hearing, so you should never push them to the limit. It would be best if you always mixed on reasonably low volume, and only increase it every now and then to check the low-end, etc.
The sound in this video is fantastic. When you started unboxing I thought someone was in the room with me😃
Hi, thanks! I always post-process the audio with EQ, compression, etc to make it as good as possible. I don't just record straight on top of the video. It's a bit more time consuming, but I always try to go by quality over quantity :)
I have a weird hard on for Yamaha stuff and I'm slowly gathering a Yamaha studio collection, but these Adams are real nice
Dude !!! Your Channel is a Gold Mine for me. I'm always searching for more info regarding Recording in general. In addition to opinions about recent and solid computers for home Audio. I have no idea how or why I've never seen your UA-cam Channel before now. Anyway , it's great info you're sharing. So thank you. I'm excited about exploring all of your Videos. Cheers.. 🎸🎸🎸
Hi there, thanks! Glad to hear that you've found the content useful! 😊 There are so many large channels out there these daya, it's not easy to find small channels like this :)
I use Avantones for midrange. The speed in dialing clarity I achieved on the first mix I did on them, was night and day. That mix was originally done on 2-way speakers and I thought it was clear enough then but it took a lot longer. They exist for a very good reason.
Do you suggest a pair or a single??? As it's mono
@@wapanglemdur If you're only producing mono tracks, then you only need one. I use two because, although I do mix in mono and technically I could use one, I still need to mix for stereo systems and these speakers are superior for making sure the midrange is in phase and clear while in stero mode. So, having only one is not a solution for me. If you want to use one and then guess if your midrange is clear on your normal stereo 2-ways...go for it. I can't work like that.
Mann this video shows very well how big 8' monitors actually are, it's almost scary haha!
so hard to decide on what to buy!
I also have the RCF ayra pro on the list.
The crossover point of the Adams is the deal breaker for me. Also Kali Audio IN8 v2 is a good option as it is a three way speaker for 399 EUR/speaker.
Thx for mentioning the Kali Audio! I have been on thomann for years but I've never looked at this brand! I think I will try this one Kali Audio IN8 v2!
Always the high crossover frequence of the adam is named as a problem. But this isn't so. Hear them and you will hear that this is only a theoretical argumentation.
This was one of the best explanations and discussions about studio monitors - thx! I am in the market for some and its not easy... I want dual use. To be able to create backing tracks and then play guitar along to them - all at home
Glad you found it helpful 🙂
I got HS8 for music production, I hope I picked right
i'm crying when he said "you don't have to check it in your car", i'm literally running in and out to check my mix 🤣🤣
It matters what the response curve within the stated range is. 33hz for 1 speaker could be 6db down from flat response and another could be 40hz at 3db down. THAT determines how there would be sonic differences. I'll take the Audioengine A5 for my 10 x 12 bedroom ty. From what I have gleaned... the weakness of ribbon tweeters is dispersion width and having to position them directly, on either side, at the sweetspot you want.
Both great, tried both but found the HS8's had a much better clarity midrange wise and smoother sound overall. Tweeter on the T8V was a little harsh but could have been the demo settings. Best using some songs from yesteryear to hear a good range of sounds
Voice mix didn't have to be so compressed and harsh. Thanks for the video.
Thanks for the feedback! 👍
What monitors/headphones are you using right now?
T7V :D
(I don't know what happened to my earlier comment. It's not showing up, but I can see it's still being counted. Can anyone else see it?)
Headphones... Will be upgrading to monitors soon though
Presonus Sceptre S8 (amazing monitors ) + Shure SRH 840
@@thomasfroland762 While it is possible to mix solely on headphones, I still recommend having monitors too. Check out this video: Headphones VS Monitors - What's best for mixing: ua-cam.com/video/ifwb_qKQNhU/v-deo.html
Thanks for the review. I am presently looked for some new monitor speakers. As for having a notched volume knob, I saw a test of a set of monitor speakers with that type of knob where even though the knobs were set to the same notch, the speakers where not at the same volume level when tested.
I have seen order channels, but trust me this is the best channel I have come across, #1. Bro you are doing an excellent job. Can't wait for you to release the videos.
I would like you to do a video, on actually mixing and mastering a full song. Thanks
Hi, thanks! Much appreciated. Good suggestion. I have many mixing and mastering tutorials planned 😀
@@FireWalkMusic Nice. Can't wait. Thanks bro
Hs8 for more accurate reproduction, t8v for that hifi hyped sound. I used to use hs7's which weren't the best, but in the 8 inch range for budget speakers it's definitely gotta be Yamaha. 💯 Great comparison video 👍🏿
Excellent Review. Thanks for this.
GREAT straight to the point professional comparison video which is not easy to find on UA-cam these days
Thanks so much
Great video.
Thanks
For making music hs8 no matter how much they praise other brands and if you need more bass in a very big big room go for a subwoofer with it.
HS8 all the way ❤️
Has anyone used the Adam Audio T8V for Helix and Guitar? I've heard the Yamaha and wanted to know more about the Adam speakers. Are they worth the extra money?
I am totally willing to pay the extra for the HS8, but I have a tiny room for music making and think the extra bass may be more of a problem than an asset. I think I'm going for the HS5s as a result!
the 5s dont have much bass at all... but for mixing they transfer very well to everything...
I read that someone else was worried about the boomy bass in a small room, but he had no problem as he kept the speakers on volume notch 2 usually and had great sound
This is bad internet advice, makes no sense. Buy the HS8.
@@NoQualmsTheArtist The HS5s work for me, I have no regrets!
@@lundsweden if it works for you then that's what is important. It's just speaker size for room size is a myth.
For your information. It's wattage that is important. The larger the speaker the higher the wattage which equals less distortion. You can run an 8" speaker at the same volume as a 5" speaker but get a much clearer image because there is less cone distortion, not to mention the frequency range. If you can't hear it you can't engineer it.
THANKS BRO BEEN WAITING FOR A VIDEO LIKE THAT , I HAD THE HS8 THEY ARE MONSTERS BUT I SOLD THEM AND LOOKING FOWARD TO BUYING THE T8V
You're welcome 😀
why did you sell?
Probably not the best decision made, but maybe get the t7v if you are going to go for the Adams 👍🏿
nowadays spam account like above has been asking serious genuine questions instead of call me to have s*x etc etc...I gues they have upgraded their robot softwares./..shit..
@@JosephKarthic 🤣😂🤣 I was thinking something seems odd as well
My hs8s suffered a full total loss car accident Still work like brand new. But i’m interested in the ribbon tweeter on the adam’s.
Is it me or the speakers are placed odd in that room
Placement should be ideal for that room, which was way too small btw. It was just a temporary room I used while I built my current studio, so they ended up in the corner, which isn't ideal. The angles were right though, and the tweeter was the same height as my ears, etc. That's the most important thing. You want to align it as a triangle, with an equal distance between each monitor and the length from each monitor and to you.
*HS8s*
100db Max SPL
120W (75/45)
38Hz - 30KHz Frequency Response.
(Anything above 18KHz isn't going to be heard by most adults)
*800* *Dollars* (pair)
*T8V*
118db Max SPL
90W (70/20)
35Hz - 25KHz Frequency Response.
(Anything above 18KHz isn't going to be heard by most adults)
*600* *Dollars* (pair)
According to Sound on Sound the HS8's have a flatter frequency response.
Awesome comparison
Great job just saw your channel for the first time nice job video quality is outstanding !
Thanks! Much appreciated :)
I would not recommend either model based on current prices. I listened to the Yamahas and Adams and tested the Presonus r80 as a third reference. The R80s have much better midrange imaging than the Adam t8V and have equally fine resolution. I found the yamahas to be tiring in the upper mids and not as strong in the top end.
For my dj sets i have them f7s and sub7 and for my productions the s2vs tried yamahas never gel with their flat but guess it works for many others. On a side note on affordable monitors i tried them monkey bananas turbo8s and i was extreme impressed by their poweful low end response
Great review. Thank you!
Just saw a interview with Tim Valentine...he prefers the Adams T8V's over the Yamaha's HS8
People have very different hearing so we're all going to prefer different monitors. :)
Both of these are very good, but some people prefer the HS8 and some the T8V. I recommend that you listen to both before you make up your own mind. Don't just listen to what any one person says, because your experience might be very different. :)
Here's a good example of how different hearing we all actually have: ua-cam.com/video/FaDhBq598kA/v-deo.html
Even the T5V are insanely good. Adam really knows what they are doing.
I enjoyed this very thorough review. Thank you.
You're welcome. Glad you liked it 🙂
I had the T7Vs Adams and sent it back after 5 days. I couldnt handle the boomy bass from them. I bought then the HS8s and I love them!!! Bigger bass, less boomy, more clarity!!
The T8V sounds very different from the T7V. Likewise, the T7V can't be compared to the HS8. That increase in woofer size really makes a huge difference to the fullness of the sound.
The thing about ribbon tweeters though is that people either love it or hate it. :)
It just goes to show how different hearing we all have, and how differently we perceive sound. By the way, I have a rather interesting video about that here: ua-cam.com/video/FaDhBq598kA/v-deo.html
It's fun to see how some people hear one thing and others something completely different. I suppose it's that way with studio monitors too. Some will say a particular monitor is boomy, some will say it's too thin.
The most important thing is that you find something that you are happy with, and that works well in your particular room. You need something that you feel is working with you, not against you, so if something doesn't feel right, try something else. That's the right approach :)
@@FireWalkMusic Completely agree, sound is very subjective is you dont measure it. And yes, the HS8 are very different from the 7s
boomy bass is usually easily remedied by a foam plug in the bass port
I think T7v or T5v with a Adam Audio Sub would be great. Mid-rage clarity and low bass. Right?
Indeed!
@@FireWalkMusic Whats the flatter/more studio Setup? t5v plus sub or t7v with sub?
T5v with the T10s sub is a killer combo
Adam is best 🔥
How about the HS8 vs T7V for listening only? You mentioned the mids smoothness of the T7V over the 8 so not sure how the mids of the 7 compare with the HS8.
Thanks for this great review! Did you keep one of them at the end?
I have found a pair of adam t7vs and yamaha hs8s for a very similar price, and I often produce dance/edm music [and sometimes trap] - which one should I go for?
Thank you for this great review!
You're welcome. Glad you liked it 😀
Hi, do you have a link for the monitor stand you were using??? Thanks
SPAN is a good plugin if you only got small speakers to mix with.
Mixing with your eyes can be done if you know what to do, but it can sure as hell also wreck your mix if you don't know how :P
Indeed! Visual aids can be very helpful, but only as a reference. I always recommend that people trust their ears first and foremost, but you can't always trust them fully due to room acoustics and so on, so visual aids can be a good complement to help you out.
It's like with food. A famous chef once said that that you also eat with your eyes. If it looks good, then it tastes better too. :)
So I'd say you need to make sure that it sounds good first, and then double-check with visual aids to make sure that what you hear is "correct" :)
Hi , I would like to hear your opinnion as an expert for more to listening to music and less mixing monitor as a suggestion to me.
Thanks for the videos btw.
Whats your opinion which one has more deep bass? Also would the 10 inch Adam audio sub be a good pair for the 8s?
Between these which would sound better for a digital piano setup?
Both would work well, but if top end clarity is very important to you then the t7v will provide slightly brighter top end due to the ribbon tweeter.
Yamahas are great, but Adams are god-tier.
I still don’t know which monitors to buy, actually I need monitors that have very clean Low end… and very accurate sound, best in EQ range 20hz to 30khz .. someone some advice?
The hs8 sounds more balanced overall, but the t8v has slightly better clarity, so if clarity is very important then i would probably go for the t8v..
Hi FireWalk 😊👍
Thank you very much for this quick review, well explained, thumbs up!👍
You're welcome! 😀
So maybe, because I already have a 10" subwoofer in my home studio, the T7V could be a better choice?
You'll have all the low-end you need from the sub so if you're after maximum clarity then that might not be a good idea. It depends on your room size though. If you have a medium large room then I would consider the T8V anyways. The difference in terms of clarity is rather minor really, and personally I think the low-end response makes up for it, and it's also often easier to mix with larger main monitors rather than having to rely on a subwoofer, as you'll get a more realistic result with the main monitors. With the sub you also have to factor in issues with ideal placement, getting the level synced perfectly and so on.
heya i hope that you are doing fine i want to purchase studio monitors... but i am confused between HS8 and T7V here in india HS8 are cheaper than T7V HS8 costs around 301$ and T7V around 335$ (for each) which in indian currency is a big difference. I am getting HS 8 at lower price then T7V but I have also heard that Adams are better than yamahas so IS IT worth buying costly smaller size monitor or should i go for HS8 PLEASE SUGGEST
I don't know what kind of music you make, but assuming you make EDM and bass-heavy music in general, then I would go for the HS8 if I were you. If you produce classical music or something, and clarity is the most important thing, then the T7V would probably be the best choice.
Amazing channel
Thanks 😀
Which monitor stands and isolation pads are you using in the setup?
Hi, I believe it was these. Cheap, but sturdy: geni.us/monitorstands
And some basic monitor pads: geni.us/acousticmonitorpads
I got my Hs8's 3 years ago a pair for $450 off ebay, i got lucky
Indeed 😃
And , of course , I subscribed.
Much appreciated! 😃
Brilliant review 👍
Thanks! 😀
i use HS5 and HS8subwoofer for listening music, and i want to exchange them. Can u recommend good hifi speaker that's not really expensive?
Hi, reference monitors like these are very flat and they are also nearfield monitors, so you kind of have to sit in that "triangle" in order to make them sound good. HIFI speakers are much wider and will usually sweeten up the sound a bit too (which is obviously not ideal for a mix engineer). When it comes to hifi speakers it's down to personal taste really. What I like someone else might hate and vice versa. I like DALI speakers myself. Good sound and not terribly expensive.
I got my HS8 modified and got to sound close to a 3 way monitor and I love it
Interesting, exactly how are they modified?
@@FireWalkMusic I send it to zenpro company and they did it what they do is upgrade wiring and other stuff in it look it up
@@conflictortiz8906 Thanks, I will :)
How do you like the Pioneers compared to both of them
It's a much smaller speaker so they're not directly comparable to the 8" HS8 and T8V. It would be more comparable to the T5V and the HS5. That said, I find them to be surprisingly well balanced, and I actually prefer the pioneers to 5" Rokits for example, which I've always found to be a little bit too low-end heavy and colored. I think both the HS5 and the T5V provides slightly better sound quality overall, but they are also more expensive.
@@FireWalkMusic thanks i also have them and like them verry much. I also now have Dynaudio BM5MKIII but you give me a good answer thank you
What did you replace your hs8s with??
I'm currently using a pair of Adam Audio A7V
@@FireWalkMusic Do you think it might be worth spending more than twice as much for A7Vs? Or do you think the jump in performance from T7Vs to A7Vs is not worth the price increase?🤔
7:05 this is giving me sweaty palms, for the love of god don't bump the table.
haha! I can understand that :) It looks worse than it is though. The desk actually extends outwards from there, because the top area is intended for studio monitor placement. So the entire monitor is actually standing firmly on the desk itself :)
Check out the "Glorious studio desk" and you'll see what I mean: images.musicstore.de/images/1280/glorious-workbench-white-_1_DJE0003475-000.jpg
Adams are great!
Indeed! :)
Could anyone please tell me if it would be possible to use an external DAC ( not some cheap one ) with those monitors? Would it help to improve the sound quality?
Thank you
Hello I plan on getting the T8V’s I wanted to ask if I getting the 10inch sub would
Be too much?
Thanks for comparison!! Do you think it might be worth spending more than twice as much for A7Vs? Or do you think the jump in performance from T7Vs to A7Vs is not worth the price increase?
If you can afford it then go for the A7V. It's a whole different beast and a huge difference in clarity and balance. The T series is a budget monitor, and it sounds like a budget monitor too,. They all do. When taking that next step up to the A series, which is somewhere in between budget monitors and high-end monitors, you'll notice a huge improvement in clarity and balance. I recommend that you check out my review of tte A7V here on my channel.
@@FireWalkMusic Thanks man!
What monitor in this range plus another $150 would you suggest for listening to music also?
Studio monitors in general have very flat frequency response curves because they are intended to be 100% neutral, as opposed to HiFi speakers. Monitors can therefore sound more boring to some people. That said, if you want to experience the music exactly the way the composer intended it, then studio monitors will work fine. Note that they are often nearfield monitors, so you need to have them positioned correctly. Hihi speakers are not so delicate, so those can be placed further apart.
@@FireWalkMusic I am primarily using them as computer speakers. But I have built very large studio monitors that were very expensive and flat that I used as home speakers and I like the same non coloured sound for my computer when relaxing. Where I live I don't have the chance to audition many speakers. I am going to the only Audio shop with monitors tomorrow and they have the T8v's, the HS8's, Kali LP-8 and the Focal Alpha 80. I do love ribbon speakers though because of the airiness. I will be adding either a JBL or an Adam studio sub to the speakers as well. Speakers will be mounted a bit higher then they should be but pointed down and 5' apart.
edit: I really appreciate that you take the time to talk to your audience. Cheers!
I actually listen to lots of music myself. The t8v has a wider sweet spot, but the hs8 is slightly warmer in the mids. You can't go wrong with either of these. Some people really love Ribbon tweeters and how they sound, others hate it. I suggest listening to both and then make up your mind. :)
Yamaha HS8 really fire or not?
what I need to get 100% power of em?
Both of these are really good and they are both capable of playing REALLY loud! :)
@@FireWalkMusic thx,
@@user-ob9zo9cr4c You're welcome 🙂
Pls can u show us how to detect the correct yamaha out of the fake once before buying.
Hi, I haven't seen any fake ones where I live so it's hard to say. If you buy them from a reputable company then i think you should be fairly safe. If you fear that you have a fake one then I would suggest contacting Yamaha and provide them with the serial number on the back to make sure.
Yamaha will be named Yamaha clearly with the logo showing on the back and front. The other one's won't. 👍🏿
Yammies all the way. Just make sure you get the HS8 not HS5 or HS7, and treat your room.
The Adam's sound better. T8V's all the way. The Yamaha's are long in the tooth.
@@spicecrop high end boost is bad on the t8vs yamaha’s hs8 has the best midrange for this price range and also better low end clarity. the depth is huge.
The thing that annoys me with the T8V is that they've probably saved a few cents per monitor by not having notched volume knobs -- the T8Vs not even at 0dB.
Nice! I Can’t decide between the tv8, the hs8 and the new kali in 8 v2. Out of these two in the video, which one handles port noise better? Meaning which one has less audible air turbulence when pushed at louder levels?
Studio monitors are often a very personal thing. We all have different hearing and some people will always prefer one over the other, regardless of the specifications. Some really love ribbon tweeters and some hate them, I recommend that you go to a store and listen to all of them before you make up your mind. These two are my own personal favorites. Regarding port noise, there's no noticeable difference. The diameter of the port is pretty much the same. The important thing when it comes to rear-ported monitors is to try and avoid pushing it right into the rear wall or a corner. As long as you have a little bit of space behind it then it usually won't be a problem. Because you'll have cables sticking out back there, it's going to be impossible to get it all the way back towards the wall anyways, and as long as you have some distance this usually won't be any problem at all. :)
@@FireWalkMusic I agree with everything you said, these two are great studio monitors and it’s hard to choose. Best thing to do is like you said go to the store and listen to them in person and decide. My choice will end up being which ever one can go louder without distorting. Adam t8v have a Max spl of 118db but only 90 watts and the Yamaha Hs8 have a max spl of 100db which seems much lower but it has more power 120 watts. Not sure why the t8v is only 90 watts but they both do sound identical from what I’ve heard. Like you said, Yamahas have slightly more and better mids. The t8v reach slightly lower than the hs8s but it’s not too much of a difference. T8vs are $600 a pair and the hs8s are about $740 a pair. With all that said, u can’t go wrong with either of these studio monitors. Thanks for the video ✔️
@@thehottestbeatz Indeed, either of these should be a good buy. Regarding the power, the T8Vs are indeed louder with less power than the HS8. The reason for this is that the T8Vs are slightly more efficient, so they don't need as much power. The ribbon tweeter in particular will move more air with half the power, compared to the dome tweeter in the HS8.
@@FireWalkMusic If you cant pick by sound, pick by appearance.
@@rettaine4562 in that case I think the t8v has the advantage 😎
Both are very good, but, if we compare 5 inches HS5 and T5V, Adam is much better!
What I like about Adam Audios budget monitors is that they don't put anything in there that's not 100% necessary. No fancy LCD displays on the back, no illuminated logo, no notched volume control etc. Instead they've focused all their energy (and money) on making them sound as good as possible. You get what you pay for :)
@@FireWalkMusic Absolutely!
@@FireWalkMusic ha "LCD Display" :p guess what the D stands for ^^ - great vid!
@@woodstocktc 😁 thanks
I heared both side by side.
Hs8 is mid overboost.
Adam Audio T8V is much more balanced. Better Buy ;-)
To "hear" them somewhere, in a room one does not know, without an experience working with either of these in the question, hardly qualifies the preference as "better" buy. It simply states, that you liked one of them better. Nothing wrong with that. But that is all.
Is the Adam F7 better than these models?
Are ribbon tweeters replaceable ?
Yes
Adam T8V's controls on the back panel are real basic. Not sure if this thing has an auto power daving / auto off feature, and if it does, can it be defeated, i.e. switched off? Also, Adam Audio had somehow "forgot" to include a 1/4-inch TRS balanced input jack. How weird is that -- considering that 99% of the studio monitor controllers use 1/4-inch TRS and not XLR. Whatever. I guess that is all that USD $300 will buy you these days.
They are indeed quite basic. I talked to Adam Audio about the features of the T-series a while back and they explained that they placed all their attention and focus on the sound quality. They wanted to make a budget monitor that sounds great. As was said in the video too, you don't typically see ribbon tweeters in this price range, because they are so expensive to make. So, in order to get the price as low as it is, they had to sacrifice anything that's not 100% needed, such as fancy LCD panels on the back, illuminated logo in the front, additional inputs and outputs etc. There is no auto on / off feature either, and that's the case with the HS8 as well. In my experience though, that's perfectly OK. A lot of people find that function annoying, especially when it can't be manually disabled.
Personally I think all this is an acceptable compromise, unless you really really need some of those inputs / outputs etc.
Personally I prefer balanced XLR over pure TRS cables, like this for example: geni.us/monoprice104761
They're TRS in one end and XLR in the other.
You get what you pay for, and in this case you pay for superior sound quality.
I think people should always aim for the best possible sound quality first and foremost. These won't sound as good as a pair of $20000 monitors of course, but they definitely offer some of the best sound quality you can get within this price range. :)
thank you
You're welcome 🙂
I've had a pair of these for about 8 years and they have proved to be fantastic as near field monitors. They are on for hours and hours on end and are not fatiguing. My reference monitors are Bowers and Wilkins 802's which are obviously at a different level and I use these for critical listening, but the Yamahas give you the information you need to make recording and mixing decisions.
You’ve had a pair of HS8s or T8Vs?
@@bren.r I had a pair of HS8's. I upgraded to Adam A77X which are double front ported horizontal 3 ways with the X-Art tweeters, but the HS8's are not to be underestimated. Not in the same class as the A77X's but they are not humiliated.
Sorry, how can you make a speaker comparison without us hearing a sound comparison?
Hi, I decided against this because the audio will be heavily influenced by my microphone and my room. Furthermore, when you playback the audio it will be further colored by whatever monitor or headphones you use to play it back. It can never sound any better or worse than whatever equipment you play it back on.
I've experimented with this in the past and often times the sound ends up sounding nothing like the real thing, and I didn't want anyone to get the wrong impression.
@@FireWalkMusic okay, it makes sense. Perhaps a more scientific approach using software may be helpful. I find studio monitors comparison quite problematic since they will be colored y the room. And also most of the time people do the review for a UA-cam video without actually calibrating the speakers as recommended by the manufacturer and spending months mixing with it. Thanks anyway for getting back to me 😎🤓
Hi dear
What about the low ends , mid and high ranges in Hs7 , if i use it in a home studio 4m × 6m × 3.5m ?
Pretty big room, I think you should go for 8" to achieve a better low-end, even though HS7 is a bit more flat in the mid range. But firstly you need a treated room.
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Thank you very much ...
I’m a bit confused. I want to buy the Yamahas. I noticed they sell them in singles, yet they are active. I’ve had a few pairs of active speakers and there’s always been one powered and one a slave/ passive. How does it work with them? Thanks man.
With these, they each have an amp. No slave monitor.
They are sold as singles since each speaker is identical.
Audio interface will have 2 monitor output at lease (Left and Right) with balanced TRS,
you can get a 1/4 TRS to XLR cable for this purpose, goes into each speaker for left and right channel.
If they offer RCA and you wish to use RCA for whatever reason it’s the same idea.
Ideally balanced TRS output to XLR from a decent audio interface would be better than using a 3.5mm to RCA output from a PC.
@@thebandcordero thanks mate. I have some JBL monitors and one has a volume control etc, where the other has nothing, just the sockets for the speaker wire. Sorry for the late reply btw.
@@WhiskyTanuki Thanks Whisky. yeah I get the wiring process, I was just wondering how it worked with an amp in each speaker, but I see what you mean. Both left and right TRS outputs go in to one speaker in my current set up (JBL active speakers with only one amp in one speaker which feeds a passive speaker).
@@StarWarsJay Yea usually each speakers have 2 amps for 2-Way, 3 amps for 3-Way active studio monitors. One of many benefits of this design (having identical speakers), if one fail, you can pick up a new one/rental right away and continue working, vs having to buy a new pair.
I use a pair of Yamaha HS8 since 4 years and I'm realy happy with them. It's unfortunate Adam Audio doesn't make "T8H", H, for an horizontal positioning. On my side the possibilty to put the monitors horizontaly or not is a deal breaker, they have to be horizontal in my current studio setup.
You're not supposed to use HS-8s horizontally as well.
@@kennylux Yes and No..😏. As their tweeters' waveguides are round, same shape on 360° all around, you can listen to them in any position, the distribution of the high frequencies will not be affected. BUT You are perfectly right, Yamaha recommends to put them verticaly for cooling reasons (The location of the inner amp components and the shape of the heater behind. It makes sens). On my side I've no choice than put them horizontaly.🥴
I have just recently downgraded my studio stuff my previous monitors were the kh120a and the hs7 i found a very good deal on the adam t7v so i thought id see what all the good reviews were about and honestly i am blown away! they sound miles better than the hs7, hs7 give me headaches lol they are comparable to the kh120a i am not saying they are better by all means but i do not regret downgrading, im not going to talk frequency's but I'm going to talk about what i am hearing best way to compare the kh120a to the adam tv7 is adams sound a bit more coloured/hifi but they are picking up everything i hear on the kh120a, kh120a sound more neutral sorry im rambling about other monitors lol but my point is the adams are amazing, they should be 2x more! the main bad side is the led indicator is at the back etc but great monitors well done adam!
by the way guys this is my opinion we all have different ears lol
Thanks!
You're welcome 😊
what do you think about the KRKs?
@@johnnyanko6051 I've not been too impressed by KRK monitors in the past, but I'm certainly willing to give them another try if I got the chance.