Speedy's Garage Challenger Hellcat Oil and Brakes
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
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Today we performed the break in oil change on the Hellcat and changed the brakes to a lower dust option. Finally we performance tested the OEM and replacement brakes for a comparison.
UPDATE 8-22-2017: After 1500 more miles on the brakes I went back to the same location in similar weather and did 6 more panic stops from 60 and the results were all between 111 and 117 feet. I never could induce brake fade. NO downsides that I can see!
Excellent video speedy. I have never seen anyone do back to back testing of the oem and z26's. Thanks!
I'm not super mechanical, but did both projects with ease following your video. Thanks! Subscribed!
Caliper center support bolt torque spec is 22 Ft. Lbs.
+1
I've been following project Orange Crush for years now and I am sad to see it go after all of the work you have done to the car. I am excited to see what you do with the hellcat.
Did you know the 2017 Hellcat has a different Dipstick and holds a quart more oil? No other parts are different just the dipstick. So I got the 2017 dipstick and added another quart of oil. These cars do use oil so I think it its a good Idea to have a little extra. Also it seems to take about 25 mins for the oil level to register properly in my car. The brake caliper center support bolt is 22ftlbs.
I sold High performance racing parts to speed shops for a while & gravitated towards MOPAR guys... I've sold many brake packages of all types & the feedback I received from my Customers across the board was that pad break in was slightly more extensive than prescribed instructions... It usually entailed factory break in and 25-50 normal city/highway stops...All resins have burned off by then...
Sweet vid on the DYI oil and break change. Will be referencing this on my next change. By the way I have the same identical car!
Only difference mine is a MANUAL. REMEMBER keep it between the YELLOW and the WHITE 👍🏽
Nice to see a Hellcat with the mufflers still installed they sound perfect.
Perfect is relative
I too changed to power stop brake pads and rotors. Had a little dust at first but now hardly any at all.
I am also going from an RT (nowhere near yours) to a hellcat, as soon as my dealer can order the 2018's.. Cant wait to hear that whine!
Outstanding video. Very useful and instructional, specially for us Hellcat owners, thanks 👍👍
Just changed out my front and rears with the Power Stop Z26 pads. Thanks for the tips!
Getting my Hellcat soon. Great video and demo. Awesome stuff!
Great informative video. Now I can install my new Powerstop Brake pads with confidence.
Totally, the wrong oil filter. Yet, I have found that STP has/had two different filters that will fit the vehicle. I like the K&N filters best, yet I kind of use what I could get my hands on. I change my oil often. Also, I like ceramic pads which has less brake dust. Like the oil I change my brake pads often. Yet, I'm in the midwest I suggest checking your brembo pads and operation of same every 6 months at least. By the way, nice video. 😊
Same guy that admires your basically everything here. Commenting with a different channel.
I have a 19 hellcat and was scared to drain the oil cooler. I thought it would starve the engine for a second more than I'd like. I usually fill the oil filter with oil and thought emptying the oil cooler would be the same as not filling the oil filter. Dry start up bad.
Right on
My first oil change was dirty and the filter looked it was full of stripper glitter. Second and third changes that cleared up
You can get mopar filters from amazon. They are two for 18.99
congrats on your purchase. whoever got Orange Crush got a super clean car!
Damn those Brembo calipers really put my 5.7's 4-piston calipers to shame lmao
I swapped my drain plug for Fumoto valve plug. No more worrying about stripping the plug or no more messy spills.
Those things make me a bit nervous for some reason, I have visions of it popping open :/
Good video, bit I would not use any oil that doesn't meet Chrysler MS-12633, even if it's 0w40.
Anyway, I started using Amsoil Signature Series 0w40 which meet MS-12633. It seems like I'm getting better mpg and it does ride smooth
I am so glad you also used the Mobil 1. Some people thinks it is heresy not to use the FIAT/Chrysler recommended Pennzoil Ultra Platinum on the SRT vehicles.
I actually plan to switch over to Penzoil Platinum as it's my go to oil in the other rides. They didn't have 0W-40 locally for a while and now it's available in the 5qt jug. Be on the lookout Friday for a new video where I discuss oil analysis and why I like the Penzoil Platinum.
It will be awesome if you do the Blackstone Oil analysis for side to side comparison between the Mobil 1 vs Pennzoil UP
I put them on and went to the road course! Death Trap!! Either keep stock for both road and track use, or get track pads for track weekends (keep swapping).
I would not recommend anything but a true track pad for road course track days. These cars weigh 4500 pounds and I'd question even the stock pads being enough. I was able to EASILY cause fade on the STOCK pads after 3-4 consecutive hard stops as you could see from the tests each stop got longer with Z26 and Stock Brembo pads ending up almost the same distance in the end.
Only problem is Mobil oil does not meet the Chrysler spec. Pennzoil ultra platinum does that’s why it’s recommended. It’s the fill for all srt products. I would only use a mopar or mopar srt filter for the application also.
That's all gimmicky contract stuff between manufacturers unfortunately. Chrysler had a deal with Mobil1 for their oil. When FCA took over they had a deal with Shell (Penzoil) and changed the specs etc.
@@SpeedysGarage You are mostly correct but there are slight additive differences. Are you fine probably, if its under warranty then I would just stick with oem till that's out. Nice video with great information, just a point I wanted to bring up.
Yeah the warranty stuff is disappointing for FCA. I've heard of them voiding guys warranties for not changing the oil every 6 mos as well. Makes me wonder what happens to a warranty on a car that sits on the lot for more than 6 mos. SMH.
Finally someone test pads after installing. Has your opinion changed after using pads for a while?
Nope, still doing great.
Thank you
Thanks so much Speedy, this helps a lot.
Who thumbed this down? Haters LOL.
Hey man I have a 2016 Challenger Hellcat. Changing the oil soon. Only question I had is where exactly are all 10 of those push pins located? That’s the only thing I’m kind of worried about lol because I don’t want to miss any. The rest of the 10/7 MM seem pretty straightforward. Get back to me if you can thank you! Great video 👍🏾
There pretty hard to miss. Most are on the bottom, and a couple on the bottom of the front wheel well area.
Thank you for the reply I was able to complete it successfully with the help of your vid! Do you have the specific race ramps these are In your video or a link of them by chance? I have a stock 16 challenger hellcat and I’m looking into race ramps that won’t damage or scrape the car/front splitter since it’s pretty low. Jacking the car up is sort of a pain. Much appreciated if you could reply again thank you 🙌🏽
Your video and the information it was the best . Very nice hellcat you got
Best video ever very well explained 👍👍⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️🚘
You must have been driving down 840 when you hit those large bumps. Those bridges suck.
Hi speedy. You have some great videos man. Thank you for the information. I just went out to my driveway and swapped my brake pads watching your video. Thank you.
I have one question. Are the new brake pads directional? In other words, does it matter which pad goes on the inside of the caliper and which pad goes on the outside?
Shouldn't matter in most cases.
Speedy's Garage I’m assuming in this case it doesn’t matter.
Thank you for the reply man.
I'm glad you didn't use that cheap purolator oil filter
My scat pack uses 7 quarts
Z26 pads are biggest piece of shit pads on this planet!
I have SRT392 and have tried them for 6 months...you do not get any break dust but very dull bite, and they create hot spots on my rotors that are visible and on top of that they are super dangerous when wet. Driving for 20min on the highway in pouring rain (pads are soaked and cold) and then apply break ...no bite for like second or 2...unacceptable.
Now I tried Raybestos Element3 pads P/N: ETH1405 and they are way better than Powerstops, not scary moments when wet and no dust at all. They are also G rated but initial bite is not as crazy as Brembo original pads but they are somehow good...but at this point starting to loose hope for perfect pad that does not dust. So next time I think I'm going back to dusty brembo pads...I love that crazy initial bite that throws you on the front windshield :-)
Mine have done OK, not hot spots, and I've not had problems in the rain, however I do agree on the initial bite. Wish it had more.
@@SpeedysGarage i'm glad. I'm continuing my search for the "perfect pad" for my SRT...:-)
I have used EBC Yellow Stuff on my other cars...excellent bite and fade resistance, lots of dust :-( and it scars rotors badly...will not put this on my SRT for sure.
I've used Mobil 1 for a really long time in my fleet, but recently I switched to Penzoil Platinum and am really liking how it's performing
FL820 works great too
Greta video! thanks I learned some new things
Hey speedy, did you ever find out the torque spec for that 13mm bolt? And also do you know what the torque spec is for the 2 bolts holding the whole caliper on? (For the front and rear) is it 121ft on the front and 98 ft on the rear? Do those need blue loctite as well?
I honestly can't remember. I'll leave this out here and hope someone chimes in.
@@SpeedysGarage let me know man. I can’t find it anywhere and I’m gonna be doing a rotor and pad job on the car soon!
Hi Speedy- Did you or do you check the final oil level while the car front end is still up on the ramps? (Getting ready to do first oil change and change out the brake pads also...appreciate the torque specs...Thanks)
Both. I check it on the ramps to make sure it's good to start and roll off, then recheck on level ground.
@@SpeedysGarage Thanks...I'll do the same.
I thought the braking distance from 62 to 0 was 105 ft on the Hellcat, I'm pretty sure that is what Dodge advertises.
Since the Hellcat Brakes and the SRT 392's are the same. Where about do you buy your OEM Discs? I've found a couple of sites but I was just curious about how you go about it, as for your brake dust I sometimes use Autoglym Wheel Protector
Haven't had to replace the disks yet. Solved my dust problem with new Z26 pads...now everything stays nice and clean.
Great video and great info
You probably answered this question before but where did you get those ramps? How much$ ? And model #
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Speedy's Garage thanks I’m gonna look into getting the 10” higher ones that way I have more room to go under with my creeper. I saw on the net a guy with a Z06 using them and it cleared his front lip.
mobile 1 over purolater any day! ebc red stuff pads over any other pads any day too! hawk pads are awesome but have noise issues.
Meh, Mobil 1 is "OK" but over priced IMO. I did extensive testing on a throw away car over a 4 year period with extended drain intervals using Purolator PureOne filters including Blackstone oil analysis against Mobil1 and others, and results were better with the Purolator. Not by much, but still. Considering the Purloator PureOne filter is half the price of the Mobil1 and tested out better, it's a no brainer.
I have EBC Redstuff pads on another car, and they do work well, but generate more dust than the Z26 Powerstops.
I can agree that mobile1 is over priced. I've been lucky to have it in a local wally world cheap so i stocked up. I've never been a fan of the purolator filters as I too have noticed that they are thinner in size than oem. The same was true for my impala, my r/t magnum, and 300. I didn't do any oil analysis but I did notice I needed to change the oil a bit earlier. I moved on to wix filters and amsoil filters and oil. So far ok but nothing id push on others. I just can't see me going back to purolator filters.
As for the EBC reds after my initial "brake-in" period I haven't had much dusting. my wheels are painted white so I must be lucky there lol. Also its a family car so it doesn't get the speed demon abuse so that could also be it. However they stop smoother and make less noise and dust than the old hawk performance pads and definitely oem. I will give the z26s a try out in the future.
On this Hellcat, I called Purolator to find out what is up with the filter. The guy is check, but suspects a wrong P/N is being published. PL12222 is a small filter with the same thread. PL24651 is a MUCH larger filter and what I used on the old 2009 R/T Challenger. I'm betting that is the proper P/N for the Hellcat and just waiting on them to confirm.
WOW. please keep us posted!
@@SpeedysGaragemobil 1 better than stock penzoil sir no ..?
Any chance you might be doing an O2 sensor replacement video? Lol
It'd be 30 seconds, LOL. Unplug, un-thread, reverse for installation :)
I was looking at these pads but a tech told me that these will wear out my oem rotors faster. What’s your thought on this?
That's incorrect and I kinda laugh that he said that and calls himself a "tech".
Oh wow. Good to know! He said it was because these pads are harder then OEM. I was wanting to get a set as I’m tired of cleaning the wheels everyday.
Great video!! I have been following your vids for a while now. I'm glad you take the time to share your experience, I for one really appreciate them....Your R/T was bad ass and I'm sure your Hellcat will be (more) to... to bad you couldn't keep both but I'm sure you feel the same. I have a new 2017 M6 HC pitch black and my wife has a 2016 A8 scat pack shaker, redline tri coat pearl... defiantly keep us posted on your mods, I'm changing the oil this week end on the scat pack then in a month or so for the HC, I only have 600 miles on her so far...LOL
Do you have to change the dish or rotor every time you change the pads on a 2017 dodge hellcat
Only if worn past min thickness
@@SpeedysGarage thank you, the service adviser at the dealer in Miami Florida that I had my car serviced at, told me that you have to change the rotor every time you put on new pads regardless if they are worn or not. He said a brake job would cost $3000 dollars per axle. That the rotor, worn or in good shape could not be turned on a hell cat.
Great video.
Why would you sacrifice replacing OEM brake pads with proven entry level Chinese powerstop branded ( box is powerstop but brakes are purchased from various low budget Chinese brake pad manufacturers) brake pads?
Because they work much better and no dust.
@@SpeedysGarage Please define "work much better".
Quality video
I thought it's torrid ,when I saw it on Facebook.
nice job
Hey Speedy, do they make pads for R/T Challenger?
I believe so.
What part number for the brake pads and where did you order them from
Went to the website and pulled the P/N for my vehicle. I just searched and got them from the lowest price I found online.
is it that important to drain the oil from the oil cooler?
I do.
No Demon???? lol
Not with those atrocious bushwhacker fender flares LOL
oh cummon... that thing is sick! you gonna get the Barton shifter for the hellcat?
It's an A8, so no on the Barton LOL. If it were a manual it would have on though.
you bought an automatic Hellcat????? Blasphemy! lol
LOL, I know! I decided I wanted to be able to eat burritos while driving down the track :)
Still not sure why you'd sell project orange crush when you had that lifetime warranty on it and it's faster than the hellcat. But enjoy the new car.
I had run out of things to do to Orange Krush and just needed a new project to play with. It was a FANTASTIC car and if I could afford to keep both I would have. Luckily it went to a great new owner who's a gear head and engineer and he's stayed in touch with me on the car. While not much faster, I suspect the Hellcat will edge out the 10.85 I managed in Orange Krush and the 8 speed auto will likely be the difference there. The technology in the Hellcat is just unreal and it does an amazing job managing those 707HP to get the most out of them.