Hey Jeff great vid! I used to love to ticker around with any machine I could get my hands but after a divorce, a heart attack a shattered ankle and a never ending lack of ambition I don’t do so much anymore. So it was really great to see some of your videos, keep it up!
You have a lot of knowledge and the guts to try anything. It makes for some great videos. I like to learn new stuff too and there is no shortage of that here!
Respect from the United Kingdom pal!, you probably saved me from injury because I was gonna use a normal drill to get my 200 cc 4 stroke go cart to start because the pull cord is broken and I think it’s also flooded so I have been struggling to get the thing going and it used to get started on the first pull.
I really enjoy every one of your videos. Just remember your wheelchair is temporary. I am in a wheelchair permanently. It's not so bad for me because I still have one leg to stand up and work under the hood and have a midrise lift that my wheelchair fits under. I've been working on cars professionally for 23 years, after I was injuried if been working in my wheelchair for 9 years and have adapted quite well. I can still do everything I used to be able to do in my wheelchair at my home shop, even heavy work. Stay positive my friend as it's the best way to overcome an obstacle. My home shop is much smaller than yours, but it is as organized and well thought out as your shop. I really like your ideas
Your ingenuity is an inspiration, thank you for your videos. Even as someone who knows nothing about these topics its incredibly entertaining from start to finish. Best wishes for a fast recovery and keep with your passion!
Hey Jeff Dewalt has a new line of tools called Flexvolt. The batteries can be used on any Dewalt 20v tools. It's a 20v/60v battery. More mA on 20v tools or standard on 60v tools. They are pricey but maybe they could be used on your project. By the way there is also an adapter that lets you use the newer 20v batteries on the older 18v Nicad tools.
You would bendy benefit from s 9ah or even a 6ah. They can deliver a lot more current. Those wires you have linking the packs are likely too small to provide a benefit. But you may also be maxing out the drill. Torque test channel consistently shows that 9ah improves performance
Thanks for sharing. I'm using similar contraption to start my lawn mower. Lawn mower is a lot easier to start than the trike, and I use old primitive cordless drill without any protection circuit in it and a small lead acid battery.
Torque wouldn't be changed by voltage or current. Get a starter and modify it to run your tool you made. Weld a handle on it and you will get the Torque you want. Oh and wear insulated gloves. LOL Love the video. I am relying on an electric wheelchair myself so I understand the frustration.
Having spent a total of a year and a half in full length plaster casts (21 major knee op on both knees, ,26 weeks for right leg tib and fib, and also broke right leg a second time and a cartilage out of right knee all this from 1975 - 79) i can empathize with your being in a chair at least it is better than crutches in summer ! take care Jeff
Well the way I look at it Jeff is I am saving a heap of people a heap of pain add to the leg problems and I have 13 degenerated Disks in the back, Stomach ulcers from taking anti inflamitories, Active arachnoid cyst in the brain, Arthritis, have been through 4 rounds of Radio therapy since 2007 (for sub cutaneous marginal zone B cell lymphomas that have turned multi focal ) and recently been diagnosed with Diabetes ,people say those like us who suffer chronic pain are brave, I dont think so , each day is just another day to get through ( grin another day in paradise Lol) when it is all you know how can you define what is the norn? Tony
Right on man.. so very glad to see and hear you again. God bless you and yours and thanks for sharing. The best on UA-cam. In my opinion. Good to visit with you.
Thanks for the video, hope you get better soon, and the shop video you made helped me a bunch with ideas to set up my own shop, thanks again and stay warm, I'm located In Updated ny and it's stay to get cold. Have a great day
glad to see your on the mend,i spent 20 hours in the emergency room 2 weeks ago because i swelled up like a balloon. heart condition and retaining water doesnt mix,and yes doctors do not like to commit to much. in fact i have to sign a waver anytime i am in the hospital basically saying if i die from a procedure they are not responsible..... kinda like buying a 500 dollar car off Craigslist,lol.
when i was in my 20,s and 30,s i never even thought about stuff like this,once i hit 40 thats when things started to change. one day at a time is all we can do
Don’t you hate when a great video ends??! 😢 well that’s how I felt when this one ended. Love your videos. You also remind me of one of my great uncles who passed away as well, and oddly his name was Jeff too.
Actually… it won’t work because although the outboard turns clockwise, you are viewing it from the opposite direction as a land engine, so using the same standards, marine engines are counterclockwise.
Always get excited when you have a new video. I think you should make videos on all the projects you do. You don't give your self enough credit sometimes you come up with some great ideals so please make more videos. Here's wishing you a speedy recovery. have a great week. God Bless!!!
That’s a good idea I was gona use a ratchet head. But I have some old starter. My Milwaukee tunes my techumseh star engine over good but it’s hard to control when it starts to remove the socket and it kicks back hard. Thanks for the idea.
try holding it so the handle is not on the foot peg and use a lottle strength ot even a ppring to lighten the initial start up load on the drill. Or use an extended on that handle to increase the moment arm by which you can hold it in place.
I made mine with a harbor frieght halfinch drive socket wrench cyt the handle off amd tacked welded a drill chuck on the other end and made sure to keep the clockwise and counter clockwise selector free to be able to change depending on the engine and when the engine starts it spins freely just the same as the socket wrench would and it engages in whichever direction u choose and it took about 15 mins and 10 bucks to make instead of ripping apart a chevy starter i mean ur tool definitely looks nicer but mine does the job and is really strong also i found using a air tool or a corded drill it doesnt struggle or potentially ruin a cordless also at lowes u can buy these drill starters for craftsman weedwhackers the tool cost 20 bucks but is ment fir 50ccs and under
Jeff... You just made a subscriber for life! I spent way too much time on a ATC back in the middle 70s.... And yes got my nose bloodied more than once riding wheelies. I can already tell you like taking stuff apart but may I suggest AVE UA-camr he takes drills and tools apart regularly quite interesting goes into debt with the explanation of the electronics. 😀🇺🇸👍
I quit doing wheelies now after my broken leg deal :) Thank you for the tip but.... yes I do watch him. He is beyond smart and one heck of a comedian to keep one listening!
Great video...The starter drive on GM turns the other way...The way I learned it is the Ford motor Lose time... Turning CCW and GM gains Time...Turning CW...which means starter drive turns opposite direction ...IDK if that helps
Hi Jeff, My other half Susan is having a Titanium Hip Operation on the 8th of November 3 month recovery time. When the Insurance flips next year round two on the other hip. Love your videos keep up the good work.
Thanks for your help I’m going to build one, I have broken my Milwaukee drill twice kept breaking the same bolt but thanks to you I’ll solve the problem.
I have a 1980 Yamaha 250 XT. Can you give me some help on how I could retro fit a permanent electric start on to this bike. I am not quite heavy enough to kick start it easily. I love this video and the way you think. Hope you are up and around with no pain.
Here’s a thought Jeff. Try a little different technique in how you apply the drill. When you hit the button, hold loosely on the drill and let the handle slip or rotate a bit before you catch it firmly, kind of clutch it by hand. Not too loose. You don’t want it to get out of hand. But that way the drill is moving when the sensor checks and maybe it adds a little zip on the initial punch too. Loved that shot of the bird on the silo. Really captures a moment in Midwest landscape and outdoors when you panned out. Be real youtube, face life without the booze.
Interesting thought - I shall have to try that. Left the machines out in the cold all day and overnight (25 degrees) along with the drill and battery. Was surprised. Not scientific here but It seemed to work even better. Beats using the foot if it was available for....
Glad to see that you are on the mend! Hopefully the doctor will turn you loose soon. I always look forward to your projects. I can't help finding out what's inside either.
great video Jeff! it answered my questions. Im going to try it ! I had a fly wheel come off in my hands once on a small engine I was working on. it ended up sheering the key and rolling down the driveway. Quite the event... no blood.. :)
I knew exactly what I needed to make something like this up, but I never would have known about the starter drive part that is fairly cheap and easily found in an old auto parts store. Thank you for posting this.
The drill starter is a good Idea especially for those who may only occasionally need to start a small engine. For those who need to start engines on a more or less regular basis I think a portable starter made from a car starter and a lawn battery is more the ticket. Similar to the starters they use on formula 1 cars or racing go karts. Should be very easy to build and fairly cheap too if you use junk yard parts. Even a starter from a lawn tractor would probably turn that honda engine just fine, paired with a 7 amp hour SLA battery it would be reasonably light weight as well. Anyways just thinking out loud.
Man thats a clean lookin' X you got there man! Love it! I remember years ago there was an aftermarket company named Goki that made an electric start kit for the 350x
Thanks for you build !! Great idea !! Liked !! From my background in electronics, I would say the voltage drop on the hanging battery is enough to cause it to supply less than 1/3 of the current that would be possible if it had heavy wire. It looked like you used 12 gauge wire which is good for 20 amps which seems like that is ok ... but that 24 inches ( i figured 6 in x 4 - each battery for each color) of 12 g wire offers a lot more resistance than the battery that is hooked directly to the drill. In addition i guess it's the current regulator on the motor that is kicking out ... so even with a bigger battery you will probably still have the problem - i am only guessing on that :) Good Luck !!
Hay brother get a 12 volt starter for a polaris 400 2 stroke scrambler. it has a gear reduction drive and is about the size of a brigs & stratton starter but with the power of a car starter. then get an old 10 speed bike and rob the gear set off the rear tire. it will spin one way and free wheel the other. weld the 10 speed gear to the starter gear then weld your cranking sprocket to the other side of the 10 speed gear. now take one of your 12 volt drill lipos and wire to it with a switch. now make a small box to house all this in and you are good to go. or better than this is to just buy a hand held 12 volt remote starter like the ones the go cart racing community use to crank thee modified engines. those work amazing and would crank your atv all day no problem at all and cost you less than that big ass drill probably did! hahahah love ya bro, glad to see you thinking outside the box. i live outside the box! visit me sometime.
Aw man! Loving that. I'm definitely going to be ripping an old starter apart now and rigging that up. The old honda's with points, if they aren't running right, its torture to keep kicking them over and over again. Its so nice to be able to sit next to it, and just spin the engine over. Thanks for that info Jeff!!!! Great video as always sir. :)
Hi there Tom. I have a wingnut on the crankcase plug now so no tools needed other than the drill setup. Always wanted to build one of those starter drives. Left the Honda's and drill/battery outside overnight to see how good when freezing out. Spun the engine over like crazy. Just can't get over the torque that battery powered drill had.
I’d love to see how u made ur starter for the drill.. we have a old Wisconsin 4 cylinder motor we r trying to start..we made a shaft kinda like for a old model a or tractor… so that way it can kick off.. we used it with a big electric drill… well no luck so far.. any help would be appreciated..
That gel cell that you connected up doesn't have the high amperage discharge rate like those lithium-ion batteries. The gel cell will struggle to discharge at 30 amps but the lithium batteries will produce over 100 amps or more. I learned about batteries way back when I was racing RC cars. Yep, had a few hard lessons in batteries.
hello a friend of my use this set up to start his 1947 airplane I think it is about 50 hp he used to start it my hand flipping prop but plane started one time and power was set to high so he garbed the wing strut and had it hit the hanger so now he can start it while setting in the plane
Hello Jeff, I have to say in regard to kicking that 350X, I can tell you when they kick back and the kicker comes back and whacks your shin bone, there are barely enough words in the English language to cover the pain although there's plenty of time to say them! In case ypu haven't already had the pleasure, beware eh!
Yes I have... The 350x CDI box went bad, didn't know, trying to start, that sob bit me hard dead center bottom of my foot, I had tennes on. Had all I could do to walk back to the shop. Yup - nasty to the 5th.
With your battery setup hooking them in parallel like that won't double the current it will just double the life of the battery or in other words how long it will last before it dies and you need to charge it again, of course hooking it in series would give you 40 volts but the same amount of life as one of the batteries..... However because of the circuitry attached to the batteries and in the drill I'm pretty sure everything's regulated to that 20 volts so even if you put 30 volts to it the motor in the drill is still only going to get 20 or I think it's 18 actually
Mate let me know if you find someone that make one. I;m still able to do work around the garden but not to mechanically minded and the arthritis is slowing me down.
@@mirriulahwaterdog Is really easy to make. Just cut out the clutch from a car starter. I paid 10 dollars for mine off craigslist. Honda CRV. then i found a welder who connected a extesion and a 3/8 socket extension. He cost me 50$. all in was 80$ but its a life long tool.
Jeff, hoping you are starting to feel better. Looking forward to a new video soon. Since you like wiring etc can you do a video on converting florescent shop lights to led?
Interesting and informative video. Did you consider getting the Dewalt XR Brushless 3 Speed high torque 1/2" drive Impact Wrench instead of the drill/driver. Seems like the Impact Wrench would've been more suited to what you needed the tool for. Great video and a great education in power tool electronics. Tesla's interest in the possibilities of AC current is vindicated once again.
The bolt on the flywheel will loosten with an impact. I have to over tighten it with an impact to use that drive or it comes loose. It would need to be a LH thread. Thank you for your thoughts - just wished to get back for you trying to help out. Thank you - Much appreciated!!!
Good video. I have to make me one of these. Maybe use your foot starter to turn the engine to TDC on a/the compression stroke. Too bad there is no compression release. I have a little 3hp briggs that I was starting with a 1/2" drill with a 1/4" socket extension. After it kicked back twice it twisted off the extension. Pulled out my hair on that one. Turned out the flywheel was not a great fit to the crankshaft. A session with valve lapping compound fixed it.
Neat write up you had there Dan! Actually the second gen engines do have a compression release. I did film reaching over the seat, holding light pressure on the kicker and as you suggested/thought that did work perfect every time. We were up north in the cold last weekend and everything worked wonderful. It was below zero in the mourning. The 350 wouldn't start after a long crank. Forgot to turn switch to run - duh..... ;>)
Hey there good Sir. I know that this video is several years old, but wanted to know how you are doing this without the bolt coming lose. Looks like one of your answers was to use a drill instead of an impact gun. Is that correct? I want to do this on an NSR50 and and NSF100 with a super high hp and compression stroker-big bore motor. Did you have to drill out the access port or was that motor already setup with the access? My motors don't have one. Thanks in advance
Hi Tony. If you meant to use for the cranking purpose the impact's are a different design to obtain the torque with a hammer effect. I did use an impact to tighten the crankshaft bolt a bit above normal where it is being turned backwards (loosen direction) to start the engines in an abnormal way... You bet, did follow your thought idea for sure!
Hallo Jef you are genious Tell me can i with dril start disel 400cm3 engine . I have motocultivator and starting with rope for me is wery deficoult. Please can you answare , with that will be for me great aid. Thanck you wery much
the reason why more amps makes the stop issue worse is there is less voltage drop under load, computer senses greater potential for damage/heat buildup, then shuts down quicker than if you used a lower amp battery setup. probably would still crank the beast over quick with a small battery
cool video. how do you make that adapter that starts the engine. my shoulder and back hurts and i dont think i will be able to start these recoil engines on lawn mowers and pressure washers. oh i wish i was young and strong . lol
You’re adding capacity by hooking 2 5 amp/hr to get 10, what you want is more current, (amperage) to get more grunt. When you increase voltage you decrease amps. A 10 amp/hr battery has more capacity in run time over the 5 , not power. The power would increase by wiring the batteries in series , pos-neg, neg to pos. Now you have more power. It would eventually burn out the motor, but not for a long time considering how short a Burst it actually runs to start the bike. The way you were doing it you were just making a bigger battery of the same power.
Jeff, thanks for the video. I have an outboard motor that I need to rig up DIY starter for. They offer an electric starter kit, but charge $750 for it. I was wondering how to make a safety drive & the Chevy starter drive unit looks like the answer.
Try the Performance Tool 3/8" Drive Ratcheting Socket Adapter. It is sold at Speedway and on Ebay for maybe $12 bucks or so. However, remember that you have to reset it after each use of it may get kicked back to the wrong direction when you have used it. It is like using a seat belt, in that you know each time you get into the car, you need to fasten your seatbelt. Same with this adaptor, as you have to always check it to make sure it is in the correct drive position or it can indeed kick back on you and possibly ruin your day, for sure. Tape or JB weld can lock it in place permanently so you don't have to worry in using this adaptor. The starter piece works great too, but if you are only using this for an occasional start up on a hard to start mower, edger or such and have limited welding equipment tor welding skills, then the ratchet adaptor is likely all you will need. I went to a local Auto Zone today to see if they had such in stock. The two simpleton people working the counter there today really didn't even know what products they sold to begin with. Good luck in tracking down the ratchet adaptor. There are some great videos on using such on UA-cam, mostly under hard starting lawn equipment though.
Unfortunately it turned too slow (snaps violently when compression hits) shearing off the left hand threaded torx bolt in the center of the chuck which holds it on. Reason being that the drill is running backward for this use and the chuck wants to unscrew. That tiny torx wants to stop it from coming off but is not strong enough. (I did bust several on testing) Hope this helps you out where what you said is very logical....
I miss people like you I'm older now if whatever reason time happens life happens they're all gone so I find You video very refreshing
Your channel is what makes UA-cam great. Glad to see your on the mend. Keep on making quality videos.
Hey Jeff great vid! I used to love to ticker around with any machine I could get my hands but after a divorce, a heart attack a shattered ankle and a never ending lack of ambition I don’t do so much anymore. So it was really great to see some of your videos, keep it up!
Wow just about missed this one all together. Sure was glad to see you toying around again. Best wishes, cheers.
You have a lot of knowledge and the guts to try anything. It makes for some great videos. I like to learn new stuff too and there is no shortage of that here!
I thank you so much!
Totally agree. I love watching creative minds at -work- play.
Get well and stay well Jeff. The world needs and appreciates you.
Thank you for the kindness Joseph, Jeff.
Glad you're still kicking! Thanks for sharing your knowledge & insight. Keep it coming.
Respect from the United Kingdom pal!, you probably saved me from injury because I was gonna use a normal drill to get my 200 cc 4 stroke go cart to start because the pull cord is broken and I think it’s also flooded so I have been struggling to get the thing going and it used to get started on the first pull.
I really enjoy every one of your videos. Just remember your wheelchair is temporary. I am in a wheelchair permanently. It's not so bad for me because I still have one leg to stand up and work under the hood and have a midrise lift that my wheelchair fits under. I've been working on cars professionally for 23 years, after I was injuried if been working in my wheelchair for 9 years and have adapted quite well. I can still do everything I used to be able to do in my wheelchair at my home shop, even heavy work. Stay positive my friend as it's the best way to overcome an obstacle. My home shop is much smaller than yours, but it is as organized and well thought out as your shop. I really like your ideas
I so much enjoy reading the comments. I like how positive you are which is the best answer to all encountered. Thank you for stopping by, Jeff.
Your attitude is an inspiration! Keep wrenching.
Your ingenuity is an inspiration, thank you for your videos. Even as someone who knows nothing about these topics its incredibly entertaining from start to finish. Best wishes for a fast recovery and keep with your passion!
Thanks for the education. Much appreciated. You're looking much better. Glad to see.
I'm just trying the idea for an electric starter for lawn mowers. Loved your enthusiasm & creativity !
It is a neat looking new drill....and a good idea on starting your machines ...Stay Safe and get well soon ....
Love the 350X, I have a 83 200X and a 82 250R. I stumbled on to this channel today. . Your invention is really cool.
Hey Jeff Dewalt has a new line of tools called Flexvolt. The batteries can be used on any Dewalt 20v tools. It's a 20v/60v battery. More mA on 20v tools or standard on 60v tools. They are pricey but maybe they could be used on your project. By the way there is also an adapter that lets you use the newer 20v batteries on the older 18v Nicad tools.
Glad to see you out in the shop tinkering . . . . the body may be broke and healing, but the mind needs exercise . . . Rog
Thanks, You bet!
You would bendy benefit from s 9ah or even a 6ah. They can deliver a lot more current. Those wires you have linking the packs are likely too small to provide a benefit. But you may also be maxing out the drill. Torque test channel consistently shows that 9ah improves performance
Good to see your still kickin........well not kick startin but......hey.....
Nice elect start solution.
Thanks for sharing. I'm using similar contraption to start my lawn mower. Lawn mower is a lot easier to start than the trike, and I use old primitive cordless drill without any protection circuit in it and a small lead acid battery.
Can picture that! Another nicely creative idea...
Torque wouldn't be changed by voltage or current. Get a starter and modify it to run your tool you made. Weld a handle on it and you will get the Torque you want. Oh and wear insulated gloves. LOL
Love the video. I am relying on an electric wheelchair myself so I understand the frustration.
Having spent a total of a year and a half in full length plaster casts (21 major knee op on both knees, ,26 weeks for right leg tib and fib, and also broke right leg a second time and a cartilage out of right knee all this from 1975 - 79) i can empathize with your being in a chair at least it is better than crutches in summer ! take care Jeff
OMG - that is horrible. When I hear what some people go thru I think it is awesome where they still stay in good spirits.
Well the way I look at it Jeff is I am saving a heap of people a heap of pain add to the leg problems and I have 13 degenerated Disks in the back, Stomach ulcers from taking anti inflamitories, Active arachnoid cyst in the brain, Arthritis, have been through 4 rounds of Radio therapy since 2007 (for sub cutaneous marginal zone B cell lymphomas that have turned multi focal )
and recently been diagnosed with Diabetes ,people say those like us who suffer chronic pain are brave, I dont think so , each day is just another day to get through ( grin another day in paradise Lol)
when it is all you know how can you define what is the norn?
Tony
That three wheeler is awesome!
Right on man.. so very glad to see and hear you again. God bless you and yours and thanks for sharing. The best on UA-cam. In my opinion. Good to visit with you.
Thank you Kerry!
Thanks for the video, hope you get better soon, and the shop video you made helped me a bunch with ideas to set up my own shop, thanks again and stay warm, I'm located In Updated ny and it's stay to get cold. Have a great day
Will be doing a more detailed shop tour some time in the future which will cover the one of a kind widgets and things.
Welcome back glad to see your doing better..
You’re very cool. I would love to live next door and see your successes first hand. Thanks for making your videos.
glad to see your on the mend,i spent 20 hours in the emergency room 2 weeks ago because i swelled up like a balloon. heart condition and retaining water doesnt mix,and yes doctors do not like to commit to much. in fact i have to sign a waver anytime i am in the hospital basically saying if i die from a procedure they are not responsible..... kinda like buying a 500 dollar car off Craigslist,lol.
Jeez Rodger. One (me) seems to take feeling good for granted until.... When I hear what some folks are going thru these days as we all get older, wow.
when i was in my 20,s and 30,s i never even thought about stuff like this,once i hit 40 thats when things started to change. one day at a time is all we can do
Just be happy that we dont have health care like Britain.
Don’t you hate when a great video ends??! 😢 well that’s how I felt when this one ended. Love your videos. You also remind me of one of my great uncles who passed away as well, and oddly his name was Jeff too.
Had to stop by Ryan and say thank you for the kind thoughts, Jeff.
2jeffs1 I just wish I knew you in person because you seem like a great person!!
I’m going to make this for starting my small outboard engine.
Actually… it won’t work because although the outboard turns clockwise, you are viewing it from the opposite direction as a land engine, so using the same standards, marine engines are counterclockwise.
Love it! Great job! Hope you're feelin better!
Always get excited when you have a new video. I think you should make videos on all the projects you do. You don't give your self enough credit sometimes you come up with some great ideals so please make more videos. Here's wishing you a speedy recovery. have a great week. God Bless!!!
Appreciated! Thank you very much, Jeff.
That’s a good idea I was gona use a ratchet head. But I have some old starter. My Milwaukee tunes my techumseh star engine over good but it’s hard to control when it starts to remove the socket and it kicks back hard. Thanks for the idea.
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try holding it so the handle is not on the foot peg and use a lottle strength ot even a ppring to lighten the initial start up load on the drill. Or use an extended on that handle to increase the moment arm by which you can hold it in place.
Great stuff Jeff! Glad you are healing. You Sir are a clever guy. Much respect.
Jim
Thank you Jim!
I made mine with a harbor frieght halfinch drive socket wrench cyt the handle off amd tacked welded a drill chuck on the other end and made sure to keep the clockwise and counter clockwise selector free to be able to change depending on the engine and when the engine starts it spins freely just the same as the socket wrench would and it engages in whichever direction u choose and it took about 15 mins and 10 bucks to make instead of ripping apart a chevy starter i mean ur tool definitely looks nicer but mine does the job and is really strong also i found using a air tool or a corded drill it doesnt struggle or potentially ruin a cordless also at lowes u can buy these drill starters for craftsman weedwhackers the tool cost 20 bucks but is ment fir 50ccs and under
Jeff... You just made a subscriber for life!
I spent way too much time on a ATC back in the middle 70s.... And yes got my nose bloodied more than once riding wheelies.
I can already tell you like taking stuff apart but may I suggest AVE UA-camr he takes drills and tools apart regularly quite interesting goes into debt with the explanation of the electronics. 😀🇺🇸👍
I quit doing wheelies now after my broken leg deal :) Thank you for the tip but.... yes I do watch him. He is beyond smart and one heck of a comedian to keep one listening!
Great info, applies to other applications too
You Sir, are an inspiration. Keep up the great work.
Thank you Thomas!
Great video...The starter drive on GM turns the other way...The way I learned it is the Ford motor Lose time... Turning CCW and GM gains Time...Turning CW...which means starter drive turns opposite direction ...IDK if that helps
Thank you 😊 you saved me from spending sooo much money on a new starter for my side by side. Now I can save up while still riding on our trails.
Hi Jeff, My other half Susan is having a Titanium Hip Operation on the 8th of November 3 month recovery time. When the Insurance flips next year round two on the other hip.
Love your videos keep up the good work.
Thanks for your help I’m going to build one, I have broken my Milwaukee drill twice kept breaking the same bolt but thanks to you I’ll solve the problem.
I have a 1980 Yamaha 250 XT. Can you give me some help on how I could retro fit a permanent electric start on to this bike. I am not quite heavy enough to kick start it easily.
I love this video and the way you think.
Hope you are up and around with no pain.
Here’s a thought Jeff. Try a little different technique in how you apply the drill. When you hit the button, hold loosely on the drill and let the handle slip or rotate a bit before you catch it firmly, kind of clutch it by hand. Not too loose. You don’t want it to get out of hand. But that way the drill is moving when the sensor checks and maybe it adds a little zip on the initial punch too. Loved that shot of the bird on the silo. Really captures a moment in Midwest landscape and outdoors when you panned out.
Be real youtube, face life without the booze.
Interesting thought - I shall have to try that. Left the machines out in the cold all day and overnight (25 degrees) along with the drill and battery. Was surprised. Not scientific here but It seemed to work even better. Beats using the foot if it was available for....
That trike is an oldie. I don't recall when production of them ended.
I use 3/8" ratchet adapter, it spools up fine when engine starts before you get it removed.
The way that drill works I wonderif you eased the trigger if it would start cranking it over then speed up the drill.
Glad to see that you are on the mend! Hopefully the doctor will turn you loose soon. I always look forward to your projects. I can't help finding out what's inside either.
great video Jeff! it answered my questions. Im going to try it ! I had a fly wheel come off in my hands once on a small engine I was working on. it ended up sheering the key and rolling down the driveway. Quite the event... no blood.. :)
Buena idea yo tengo esa pieza de starter así no ay que preocuparse a que te bote la mano
I knew exactly what I needed to make something like this up, but I never would have known about the starter drive part that is fairly cheap and easily found in an old auto parts store. Thank you for posting this.
The drill starter is a good Idea especially for those who may only occasionally need to start a small engine. For those who need to start engines on a more or less regular basis I think a portable starter made from a car starter and a lawn battery is more the ticket. Similar to the starters they use on formula 1 cars or racing go karts. Should be very easy to build and fairly cheap too if you use junk yard parts. Even a starter from a lawn tractor would probably turn that honda engine just fine, paired with a 7 amp hour SLA battery it would be reasonably light weight as well. Anyways just thinking out loud.
I love your videos. Thanks for making them.
Man thats a clean lookin' X you got there man! Love it! I remember years ago there was an aftermarket company named Goki that made an electric start kit for the 350x
I always enjoy your content. Hope you have a quick recovery.
Getting antsy to be back to walking. That day can't come quick enough.
That would come in handy on a model t crank. Save a few thumbs at least. Always love seeing the fixes you come up with for stuff.
Thanks for you build !! Great idea !! Liked !! From my background in electronics, I would say the voltage drop on the hanging battery is enough to cause it to supply less than 1/3 of the current that would be possible if it had heavy wire. It looked like you used 12 gauge wire which is good for 20 amps which seems like that is ok ... but that 24 inches ( i figured 6 in x 4 - each battery for each color) of 12 g wire offers a lot more resistance than the battery that is hooked directly to the drill. In addition i guess it's the current regulator on the motor that is kicking out ... so even with a bigger battery you will probably still have the problem - i am only guessing on that :) Good Luck !!
Cool, 12 ga, yup. Your spot on with your thoughts. Guess I was having fun. Love those sit down jobs while chair bound. ;>)
You have a sharp mind ... I have appreciated many of your builds over the years!! Keep it going! :)
Look into the BMS/Protection circuit for the stall. Hope your leg gets better.
Hay brother get a 12 volt starter for a polaris 400 2 stroke scrambler. it has a gear reduction drive and is about the size of a brigs & stratton starter but with the power of a car starter. then get an old 10 speed bike and rob the gear set off the rear tire. it will spin one way and free wheel the other. weld the 10 speed gear to the starter gear then weld your cranking sprocket to the other side of the 10 speed gear. now take one of your 12 volt drill lipos and wire to it with a switch. now make a small box to house all this in and you are good to go. or better than this is to just buy a hand held 12 volt remote starter like the ones the go cart racing community use to crank thee modified engines. those work amazing and would crank your atv all day no problem at all and cost you less than that big ass drill probably did! hahahah love ya bro, glad to see you thinking outside the box. i live outside the box! visit me sometime.
Aw man! Loving that. I'm definitely going to be ripping an old starter apart now and rigging that up. The old honda's with points, if they aren't running right, its torture to keep kicking them over and over again. Its so nice to be able to sit next to it, and just spin the engine over. Thanks for that info Jeff!!!! Great video as always sir. :)
Hi there Tom. I have a wingnut on the crankcase plug now so no tools needed other than the drill setup. Always wanted to build one of those starter drives. Left the Honda's and drill/battery outside overnight to see how good when freezing out. Spun the engine over like crazy. Just can't get over the torque that battery powered drill had.
I’d love to see how u made ur starter for the drill.. we have a old Wisconsin 4 cylinder motor we r trying to start..we made a shaft kinda like for a old model a or tractor… so that way it can kick off.. we used it with a big electric drill… well no luck so far.. any help would be appreciated..
That gel cell that you connected up doesn't have the high amperage discharge rate like those lithium-ion batteries. The gel cell will struggle to discharge at 30 amps but the lithium batteries will produce over 100 amps or more. I learned about batteries way back when I was racing RC cars. Yep, had a few hard lessons in batteries.
hello a friend of my use this set up to start his 1947 airplane I think it is about 50 hp he used to start it my hand flipping prop but plane started one time and power was set to high so he garbed the wing strut and had it hit the hanger so now he can start it while setting in the plane
Hello Jeff,
I have to say in regard to kicking that 350X, I can tell you when they kick back and the kicker comes back and whacks your shin bone, there are barely enough words in the English language to cover the pain although there's plenty of time to say them! In case ypu haven't already had the pleasure, beware eh!
Yes I have... The 350x CDI box went bad, didn't know, trying to start, that sob bit me hard dead center bottom of my foot, I had tennes on. Had all I could do to walk back to the shop. Yup - nasty to the 5th.
With your battery setup hooking them in parallel like that won't double the current it will just double the life of the battery or in other words how long it will last before it dies and you need to charge it again, of course hooking it in series would give you 40 volts but the same amount of life as one of the batteries..... However because of the circuitry attached to the batteries and in the drill I'm pretty sure everything's regulated to that 20 volts so even if you put 30 volts to it the motor in the drill is still only going to get 20 or I think it's 18 actually
Thanks Jeff.
We've got a wheel chair in shop for working under the lift. Just think, everything you drop is much closer!
Thanks for making another great video, your one ambitious guy with allot of talent. Keep healing up.
Have you ever thought about selling the dog clutch starter drives? I would love to get my hands on one.
Sorry - probably not. Many things to tend to here daily...
Mate let me know if you find someone that make one. I;m still able to do work around the garden but not to mechanically minded and the arthritis is slowing me down.
@@mirriulahwaterdog Is really easy to make. Just cut out the clutch from a car starter. I paid 10 dollars for mine off craigslist. Honda CRV. then i found a welder who connected a extesion and a 3/8 socket extension. He cost me 50$. all in was 80$ but its a life long tool.
Jeff, hoping you are starting to feel better. Looking forward to a new video soon. Since you like wiring etc can you do a video on converting florescent shop lights to led?
I do have one. Very easy to understand, many nice comments that it was very helpful to others. ua-cam.com/video/-FNCJUrgN1g/v-deo.html
Interesting and informative video. Did you consider getting the Dewalt XR Brushless 3 Speed high torque 1/2" drive Impact Wrench instead of the drill/driver. Seems like the Impact Wrench would've been more suited to what you needed the tool for. Great video and a great education in power tool electronics. Tesla's interest in the possibilities of AC current is vindicated once again.
The bolt on the flywheel will loosten with an impact. I have to over tighten it with an impact to use that drive or it comes loose. It would need to be a LH thread. Thank you for your thoughts - just wished to get back for you trying to help out. Thank you - Much appreciated!!!
I thought it worked pretty darn good just the new drill as you had it! Cool idea, good work!
Agreed ed, I kinda over engineered that one for sure. But - it was educational. Can't believe how powerful that drill is.
Good video. I have to make me one of these. Maybe use your foot starter to turn the engine to TDC on a/the compression stroke. Too bad there is no compression release.
I have a little 3hp briggs that I was starting with a 1/2" drill with a 1/4" socket extension. After it kicked back twice it twisted off the extension. Pulled out my hair on that one. Turned out the flywheel was not a great fit to the crankshaft. A session with valve lapping compound fixed it.
Neat write up you had there Dan! Actually the second gen engines do have a compression release. I did film reaching over the seat, holding light pressure on the kicker and as you suggested/thought that did work perfect every time. We were up north in the cold last weekend and everything worked wonderful. It was below zero in the mourning. The 350 wouldn't start after a long crank. Forgot to turn switch to run - duh..... ;>)
Yeah so glad I NEVER do that ..... duh
Hey there good Sir. I know that this video is several years old, but wanted to know how you are doing this without the bolt coming lose. Looks like one of your answers was to use a drill instead of an impact gun. Is that correct? I want to do this on an NSR50 and and NSF100 with a super high hp and compression stroker-big bore motor. Did you have to drill out the access port or was that motor already setup with the access? My motors don't have one. Thanks in advance
Liked the video before I watched it! I wonder how one of those battery powered impacts would do?
Hi Tony. If you meant to use for the cranking purpose the impact's are a different design to obtain the torque with a hammer effect. I did use an impact to tighten the crankshaft bolt a bit above normal where it is being turned backwards (loosen direction) to start the engines in an abnormal way... You bet, did follow your thought idea for sure!
Great fix Buddy! I must confess I made one a couple of years ago. I don't have the starter drive though. Thumbs up!
Great video and solved a problem for me. Thanks and keep them coming.
hi jeff, nice to see you getting back into the garage, tell the doc that you have physical therapy machines ready to go,
:>) One can't leave those machines alone overnight. Another one magically appeared the next mourning. (The GF loves road trips.) Yup, good therapy...
@@2jeffs1 Great video 2jeffs1! Cool to see you can get around having a kickstart. Mustie1, you make great videos also!
Hallo Jef you are genious Tell me can i with dril start disel 400cm3 engine . I have motocultivator and starting with rope for me is wery deficoult. Please can you answare , with that will be for me great aid. Thanck you wery much
how do you determine which direction the engine needs to turn
the reason why more amps makes the stop issue worse is there is less voltage drop under load, computer senses greater potential for damage/heat buildup, then shuts down quicker than if you used a lower amp battery setup. probably would still crank the beast over quick with a small battery
cool video. how do you make that adapter that starts the engine. my shoulder and back hurts and i dont think i will be able to start these recoil engines on lawn mowers and pressure washers. oh i wish i was young and strong . lol
Your vids are awesome! Keep 'em comin'!
You're livin' my dream!
You’re adding capacity by hooking 2 5 amp/hr to get 10, what you want is more current, (amperage) to get more grunt. When you increase voltage you decrease amps. A 10 amp/hr battery has more capacity in run time over the 5 , not power. The power would increase by wiring the batteries in series , pos-neg, neg to pos.
Now you have more power. It would eventually burn out the motor, but not for a long time considering how short a Burst it actually runs to start the bike.
The way you were doing it you were just making a bigger battery of the same power.
Man I always like your videos!
Thank you, much appreciated reading such!
I like them soo much I’m watching them again! Hahaha thanks again
Jeff, thanks for the video.
I have an outboard motor that I need to rig up DIY starter for. They offer an electric starter kit, but charge $750 for it. I was wondering how to make a safety drive & the Chevy starter drive unit looks like the answer.
hi there my friend that was a good video there my friend and that warranty claim thing was funny
Is there a commercial version of a starter adapter/ free wheel thing-a-ma-jig, doohickey, deelybopper? Welding is not my bailiwick.
Try the Performance Tool 3/8" Drive Ratcheting Socket Adapter. It is sold at Speedway and on Ebay for maybe $12 bucks or so. However, remember that you have to reset it after each use of it may get kicked back to the wrong direction when you have used it. It is like using a seat belt, in that you know each time you get into the car, you need to fasten your seatbelt. Same with this adaptor, as you have to always check it to make sure it is in the correct drive position or it can indeed kick back on you and possibly ruin your day, for sure. Tape or JB weld can lock it in place permanently so you don't have to worry in using this adaptor. The starter piece works great too, but if you are only using this for an occasional start up on a hard to start mower, edger or such and have limited welding equipment tor welding skills, then the ratchet adaptor is likely all you will need. I went to a local Auto Zone today to see if they had such in stock. The two simpleton people working the counter there today really didn't even know what products they sold to begin with. Good luck in tracking down the ratchet adaptor. There are some great videos on using such on UA-cam, mostly under hard starting lawn equipment though.
@@a1930ford thank you VERY much!
can you use an air inpact because its much faster 7000rpm and you dont need the starter drive?
Great video Jeff
Jeff, great video !!!!!!!!!!!! and great info !!
I love the tri demon stuff man
Thanks for the info.
what is that adapter on the end of your drill?
It'll work if you put it to the low speed, high torque setting.
Unfortunately it turned too slow (snaps violently when compression hits) shearing off the left hand threaded torx bolt in the center of the chuck which holds it on. Reason being that the drill is running backward for this use and the chuck wants to unscrew. That tiny torx wants to stop it from coming off but is not strong enough. (I did bust several on testing) Hope this helps you out where what you said is very logical....
awesome! thank you for a great video.
What do you call one way adapter?
Keep gettin' well!!!
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Take care buddy