I know. I still laugh at myself when I think of my first steps into lyrical singing and opera (The 3 Tenors, FIFA World Cup 1994) when I had Domingo, Carrera and Pavarotti at the uppermost esteem. So uneducated of me: well, Pavarotti should not include him in the same sentence because his voice is one of the best, but I indeed had listened to better singers expressing emotions and pathos and interpretation overall. Carrera I honestly don’t know much, but Domingo was always so vocally overrated that is not even funny.
Il suo Walse è incredibile... un'invocazione di una fenomenale incisività, con una voce ancora d'acciaio e fiati lunghissimi... un Siegmund indimenticabile
Thank you for your posts. It's nice to have access to someone who has such a wonderful knowledge of Opera. So much I never would have heard if not for your posts. Thank you again !
The greatest Wagner tenor since Ludwig Schnorr von Carolsfeld. And in the greatest Wagner tenor part after Tristan. Curiously, since I usually have no problem droning on and on, this time I have no words for the magnificence that was Melchior. All I can do is give thanks to him for sharing his gift, and to Wagner for writing such music. And to Manoli for uploading it! 😀
@@tenoremodernotecnicavecchi2151 Ludwig Schnorr von Carosfeld lived at the same time as Richard Wagner. If I'm not mistaken, he was the tenor who first sang Tristan, when Tristan und Isolde was created. I guess you won't find any recording of him. 😉
His voice is instantly recognizable. I discovered him 30 years ago and collected everything I could find. Interestingly, I went to Denmark a few years ago, and asked many people there about him. No one had ever heard of him !
You'd be surprised how folks won't listen to anything that wasn't made before the 60s because of the quality of sound. Or some stupid stuff. It's their loss that they don't hear the great singers of the past. So instead they hear singers with wobbles, manufactured voices, voices being mic ed so the can be heard in more dramatic repertoire? There's few big voices today because no one really knows what to do with them. They try to make them sing lighter or softer, it's absolutely insane. Melchoir is amazing as is Traubel.
"ein Weib sah ich, wonnig und hehr: entzückend Bangen zehrt mein Herz. Zu der mich nun Sehnsucht zieht, die mit süßem Zauber mich sehrt, im Zwange hält sie der Mann, der mich Wehrlosen höhnt! Wälse! Wälse! Wo ist dein Schwert? Das starke Schwert, das im Sturm ich schwänge, bricht mir hervor aus der Brust, was wütend das Herz noch hegt? Was gleißt dort hell im Glimmerschein? Welch ein Strahl bricht aus der Esche Stamm? Des Blinden Auge leuchtet ein Blitz: lustig lacht da der Blick. Wie der Schein so hehr das Herz mir sengt! Ist es der Blick der blühenden Frau, den dort haftend sie hinter sich ließ, als aus dem Saal sie schied? Nächtiges Dunkel deckte mein Aug', ihres Blickes Strahl streifte mich da: Wärme gewann ich und Tag. Selig schien mir der Sonne Licht; den Scheitel umgliß mir ihr wonniger Glanz - bis hinter Bergen sie sank. Noch einmal, da sie schied, traf mich abends ihr Schein; selbst der alten Esche Stamm erglänzte in goldner Glut: da bleicht die Blüte, das Licht verlischt; nächtiges Dunkel deckt mir das Auge: tief in des Busens Berge glimmt nur noch lichtlose Glut. "
@@elsalohengrin7777 Es ist ein Geheimnis der Liebe. Das Paar spiegelt sich in diesen Fällen als Schwester wider, als die unserem gesamten Wesen am nächsten stehende weibliche Hälfte
@@jornvorja9656 danke für die Antwort. Sehe ich tiefenpsychologisch, mythologisch etc..anders! Und mein schwuler Halbruder hat mich widerluchst vor Augen anhefasst, mein Brudt betascht, sich an mir getieben und so ein Zungendreck Von daher Und als promovierte Molekular ind Zellbiologin: genetisch können schwere Krankheiten bei Inzest entstehen Weiteren wissenschaftlichen Vortrag erspare ich Ihnen hier von mir....
Und es sind Zwilinge!!!!!!! Das ist der Dreh und Angelpunkt und die spirtuelle und mythologische Bedeutung. Zwei Seelenhälften, als ganzes erzeugen Siegfried.......
@@elsalohengrin7777 Es tut mir leid wegen Ihrer Erfahrung. Möchten Sie es mit dem vergleichen, was in "Die Walküre" zwischen den Protagonisten passiert? Wenn Sie das denken, hat es nichts zu tun. Und ich stimme Ihnen zu, Inzest als Geisteskrankheit ist ungeheuerlich.. Aber da Sie sagen, dass es zwischen dem Mythischen und dem Pathologischen unterscheidet, wollen Sie meiner Meinung nach mit Ihrer Erfahrung nicht mit "Die Walküre" vergleichbar sein
The most awesome WALSE I have yet to hear & it seems to go on forever. I can imagine Leinsdorf, the conductor, grinding his teeth. He frequently, apparently, took issue with Melchior’s musicality but in this moment in the scene Melchior’s indulgence seems justified, IMO. In any case is there any Siegmund around today who can equal it?
A friend of mine had just seen Kaufman and was raving about him. I told him to listen to Melchior.
A few. Maybe Vickers, Suthaus, Windgassen. All great.
Let him be happy for what he saw in concert.
I know. I still laugh at myself when I think of my first steps into lyrical singing and opera (The 3 Tenors, FIFA World Cup 1994) when I had Domingo, Carrera and Pavarotti at the uppermost esteem. So uneducated of me: well, Pavarotti should not include him in the same sentence because his voice is one of the best, but I indeed had listened to better singers expressing emotions and pathos and interpretation overall. Carrera I honestly don’t know much, but Domingo was always so vocally overrated that is not even funny.
Gold standard. Melchior was astonishing.
Those low notes were stupendous! You don't hear sonority like that even from dramatic baritones or any modern bass.
Jerome Hines said Melchior had a beautiful low C.
Il suo Walse è incredibile... un'invocazione di una fenomenale incisività, con una voce ancora d'acciaio e fiati lunghissimi... un Siegmund indimenticabile
Melchior no se queda sin voz pero yo me quedo sin palabras
Gracias por esta joya
Melchior, Flagdtad and Furtwängler, above evetything, überirdisch, and wil never be reached again!
Incredible. Thank you for sharing this recording.
He’s my favorite operatic tenor. Everyone else enjoys those spinto and lyric tenors, but I prefer dramatic.
Update: I decided Del Monaco eventually!
@@judygarland7186 How come?
Thank you for your posts. It's nice to have access to someone who has such a wonderful knowledge of Opera. So much I never would have heard if not for your posts. Thank you again !
My pleasure sir!!!
Bone-Chilling Cries of a Great Dane, ... very GREAT!...
Thank you, dear Manoli.
My pleasure to honor The King!
The greatest Wagner tenor since Ludwig Schnorr von Carolsfeld. And in the greatest Wagner tenor part after Tristan. Curiously, since I usually have no problem droning on and on, this time I have no words for the magnificence that was Melchior. All I can do is give thanks to him for sharing his gift, and to Wagner for writing such music. And to Manoli for uploading it! 😀
Unlike Ludwig Schnorr von Carolsfeld, Melchior survived and then some after singing Tristan.
Incredible, the first time I have heard this mans voice, now I have to listen to the complete ring cycle… thank you so much
I have never heard of von carolsfeld, and when I look the name up, no singers pop up. Can you direct me to a recording or two?
@@tenoremodernotecnicavecchi2151 Ludwig Schnorr von Carosfeld lived at the same time as Richard Wagner. If I'm not mistaken, he was the tenor who first sang Tristan, when Tristan und Isolde was created. I guess you won't find any recording of him. 😉
@@benoitgadel8439 his father Julius was a famous German artist
The greatest Wagnerian tenor. And only Vickers came close to Melchior's class as Siegmund.
His voice is instantly recognizable. I discovered him 30 years ago and collected everything I could find. Interestingly, I went to Denmark a few years ago, and asked many people there about him. No one had ever heard of him !
I actually think Vickers is a bit of a way down the list, Lorenz and Svanholm were also both excellent in this role.
@@jjs2351 after his rise to fame in about 1923-4 he didn’t really sing in Denmark very often.
@@jjs2351 same with the great Danish tenor Helge Rosvaenge -they spent most of their careers in Gernan speaking countries.
You'd be surprised how folks won't listen to anything that wasn't made before the 60s because of the quality of sound. Or some stupid stuff. It's their loss that they don't hear the great singers of the past. So instead they hear singers with wobbles, manufactured voices, voices being mic ed so the can be heard in more dramatic repertoire? There's few big voices today because no one really knows what to do with them. They try to make them sing lighter or softer, it's absolutely insane. Melchoir is amazing as is Traubel.
I knew someone who wrote off Callas because her recordings were such “low quality…” total lunacy.
@@manolis.799 looool
Omg
For me earlier records are the best . Almost always. E.g. first Caruso's records - what a miracle!
I honestly can’t listen much recordings from the 1980s onwards. The quality of past singers is unparalleled!!
Flipante
Grandioso
"ein Weib sah ich, wonnig und hehr: entzückend Bangen zehrt mein Herz. Zu der mich nun Sehnsucht zieht,
die mit süßem Zauber mich sehrt,
im Zwange hält sie der Mann,
der mich Wehrlosen höhnt!
Wälse! Wälse!
Wo ist dein Schwert?
Das starke Schwert,
das im Sturm ich schwänge,
bricht mir hervor aus der Brust,
was wütend das Herz noch hegt?
Was gleißt dort hell im Glimmerschein? Welch ein Strahl bricht aus der Esche Stamm?
Des Blinden Auge leuchtet ein Blitz: lustig lacht da der Blick.
Wie der Schein so hehr das Herz mir sengt!
Ist es der Blick der blühenden Frau,
den dort haftend sie hinter sich ließ, als aus dem Saal sie schied? Nächtiges Dunkel deckte mein Aug', ihres Blickes Strahl streifte mich da: Wärme gewann ich und Tag.
Selig schien mir der Sonne Licht;
den Scheitel umgliß mir ihr wonniger Glanz - bis hinter Bergen sie sank.
Noch einmal, da sie schied,
traf mich abends ihr Schein;
selbst der alten Esche Stamm erglänzte in goldner Glut:
da bleicht die Blüte, das Licht verlischt; nächtiges Dunkel deckt mir das Auge: tief in des Busens Berge glimmt nur noch lichtlose Glut. "
Zur Info! Das sind Geschwister, wissen es aber nicht! Also Inzest...Siegfried...wie Brünhilde Siegfrieds Tante ist...
@@elsalohengrin7777 Es ist ein Geheimnis der Liebe. Das Paar spiegelt sich in diesen Fällen als Schwester wider, als die unserem gesamten Wesen am nächsten stehende weibliche Hälfte
@@jornvorja9656 danke für die Antwort. Sehe ich tiefenpsychologisch, mythologisch etc..anders!
Und mein schwuler Halbruder hat mich widerluchst vor Augen anhefasst, mein Brudt betascht, sich an mir getieben und so ein Zungendreck
Von daher
Und als promovierte Molekular ind Zellbiologin: genetisch können schwere Krankheiten bei Inzest entstehen
Weiteren wissenschaftlichen Vortrag erspare ich Ihnen hier von mir....
Und es sind Zwilinge!!!!!!! Das ist der Dreh und Angelpunkt und die spirtuelle und mythologische Bedeutung. Zwei Seelenhälften, als ganzes erzeugen Siegfried.......
@@elsalohengrin7777 Es tut mir leid wegen Ihrer Erfahrung. Möchten Sie es mit dem vergleichen, was in "Die Walküre" zwischen den Protagonisten passiert?
Wenn Sie das denken, hat es nichts zu tun. Und ich stimme Ihnen zu, Inzest als Geisteskrankheit ist ungeheuerlich.. Aber da Sie sagen, dass es zwischen dem Mythischen und dem Pathologischen unterscheidet, wollen Sie meiner Meinung nach mit Ihrer Erfahrung nicht mit "Die Walküre" vergleichbar sein
The most awesome WALSE I have yet to hear & it seems to go on forever. I can imagine Leinsdorf, the conductor, grinding his teeth. He frequently, apparently, took issue with Melchior’s musicality but in this moment in the scene Melchior’s indulgence seems justified, IMO. In any case is there any Siegmund around today who can equal it?
The answer to that last question is a sad NO my friend! Thanks for listening
I've never been a great Wagner fan my friend But this voice is Stellar. What do you & Jason think of Saioa Hernandez? Take care 💙 Arnold
My friend, I have yet to hear Miss Hernandez sing. Would you please provide a link to a clip that is representative of her best efforts? Thank you!
@@jasonhurd4379 Aria from Macbeth in concert. All on u tube also Norma several clips live performance etc. Take care 💙 Arnold
She has good technique, unlike most singers these days.
Ist Melchiors Wälse echt? Kaum zu glauben!
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Meh.
Whatever
Who would you say sang it better? I'm curious.
@@albertvankrieg5548 my dog.