TOP GUN F-14 TOMCAT FIRST GAMEPLAY
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TOP GUN F-14 TOMCAT FIRST GAMEPLAY
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also note - there is TWS! it was in a keybind that I didn't have bound at the time. tomorrows video will be me trying to demonstrate the tws and the 54.
Phly it’s broken
Phly why is the video not working
There’s no video
Dear phly, im writing this to you so you hopefully contact the developers and ask them to make every single vehicle free or unlocked or give everyone millions of sl and ge but only on the dev server so everyone can at least play their favorite vehicle for free with no grind but once again ONLY ON THE DEV SERVER plus i cant even play with the f14 on the dev server because i havent played america that much. With much love, me.
Heyyyy Mech Arena wasn't that a song??? lol
The big huge back of the F-14 was often called by pilots: "The Tennis Court' because whenever they looked behind them they saw the gigantic mass of the plane.
This has been.. cool facts by Don. 😎
Odd, I always heard that about the F-15
It’s a very T H I C K jet
I saw one once at Florida and boy that thing is HUGE I mean you can guess its pretty big from pictures but standing beside one you see how massive it truly is and its probably the size of a tennis courts
I see what you did there... 😏
THE PHOENIX IS BUGGED IN THE TEST FLIGHT BUT IT WORKS FLAWLESS IN AN ACTUAL MATCH!
Hay odd when is your next video coming out
IM RECORDING RIGHT NOW AND HAVE NOTICED WOWWWWWWWWWWWW
Phlawless*
@@PhlyDaily 5 SECONDS AGO PHLY!!!!! AM A HUGE FAN!!!!!
@@PhlyDaily play with odd you have not done that in a wile i think he will enjoy it : )
Those small „canards“ are deployable Mach trim compensators. At higher Mach number, the nose of your aircraft goes down („Mach tuck“, „tuck under“). To compensate you need to trim the aircraft up, which drastically increases drag. To compensate, the smart designers added those small wing extensions, which create a nose up moment -> much less trim needed.
Then aircrew and maintainers found the glove vanes to be too much of a hassle so they were welded shut on the As, then it was deleted on the Bs and Ds
Enjineerin
My dad piloted F-14’s back in the day he would tell me the stories of him flying it for the first time and using the weapons for the first time and luckily where I live theres a aviation museum that has a F-14 on show outside the entrance so seeing that for the first time after hearing those stories lit an ever loving flame for them
Touching ❤️
Cool story man. Big shoes to fill !!!
do you know how to use commas or periods?
@@brigand7344 🚔🚔🚔 oh no the grammar facist..... run every body.
@@brigand7344 wtf does it matter
*i cannot stress my respect for this aircraft enough man*
being from Iran, during the war 1980-1988 iran-iraq war, F-14 tomcats were the birds holding back Iraqi invader planes like mirage F1's, Su-24's and mig-29's from bombing schools, hospitals and civilians.
F-14's and their missiles and pilots saved countless lives including my parents and grandparents, and I salute every American engineer and pilot who made the tomcat project a reality
Iran sucks Man Saddam was cool
bruh, usa propaganda
@@akinori1505 ah yes the US would spend money on a random comment on a UA-cam channel for am aircraft they no longer use in a conflict that they didn't fight in.
@@akinori1505 dude's not even American
@@akinori1505 uhhh even though the US cut support for Iran during that period?
The "canards" are glove vanes. Early model F-14s had them, removed later. They open at supersonic speeds to shift the centre of pressure forwards, to counter the wing sweeping back. This keeps the stability margin slim and preserves high manoeuvrability. Without them, sweeping the wing aft would cause a very rearward centre of pressure, very stable but bad for agility.
Yeah they ended up not being necessary in any case. They were welded shut on all operational F-14As and not installed at all later in production.
@@spudicous Thanks for that insight :)
It was also to decrease the loading longitudinally on the airframe, interestingly the early F14 had IRST but it was deleted due to it being not very effective, only for a better version to come back in the f14d.
so would you say in the late version, it would have greater agility?
@@jasperhunter8386 Somewhat yes, and better TWR because of F110 engine.
The early F14s had the canards. They really didn't do anything, so they were removed and disabled later. Also A was woefully underpowered. Also F-14 was the first one to have the digital battlefield system. You could slave the plane to the AWACS and have the radar off. This way it was extremely stealthy and could lock without the enemy ever knowing about it.
Yep, datalink.
They actually did do something. They moved the centre of lift forwards when the wings were swept, so the pitch response at supersonic speeds was still good. They were removed when it became apparent the mechanical complexity wasn't worthwhile for the very rare occasion a supersonic turn fight might occur.
Wow, lots to unpack here. As mentioned, the canards did have a function, but they were removed because it was essentially overengineering. Next, the A was not "woefully underpowered"; it used the same engines as the F-111, which as many know was the fastest low altitude bomber for decades. The F-14A could almost keep up with it in "Zone 5" afterburner. It was FAST. However the A's engines were very prone to compressor stalls at high Angles of Attack, and had less ideal performance at MIL power and were later replaced by GE engines. Finally, while it did have "Link 4" datalink, you COULD NOT lock onto those tracks and fire on them; they were essentially an overlay on the TID (the radar display) which helped you to cue into a target's location, altitude and direction.
@@Skilly_J yeah the F-14A with its TF30s was faster than the F-14B with its F110s.
As I like to put it, the F-14A was a better interceptor, and the F-14B (and later) was the better fighter.
@@Skilly_J I just wanted to write the same, but you did this for me. Thanks for saving my time buddy😀
F-14 also had a TCS system which was designed to allow it to scan for bomber sized aircraft like the Backfire or Badger bombers from around 24 km without broadcasting its presence with its radar.
TCS wasn't there on the original F-14As, it was added later
I believe that was how the air war during the Iran-Iraq conflict was so ridiculously one sided in favour of the Iranian air force, who were operating F-14, because they could target and destroy Iraqi MiGs from FAR outside the MiGs' own radar detection range. Iraqi pilots just reported their wingmen exploding in mid air with absolutely no warning and they supposedly thought their planes were being sabotaged on the ground.
@@weldonwin The Iranian F-14's never had TCS, which is just a telescopic TV camera. That was more about the F-14's powerful radar.
@@RocketToTheMoose In either case, it was an absolute Seal-Clubbing on the part of the Iranians
The glove vanes extended AFTER the Tomcat had transitioned into supersonic flight.
This is why they are rarely known about. They did not extend when the wings were programmed aft manually.
So F-14A's at airshows and the F-14A's in the movie Top Gun did not have them deployed as they did not exceed Mach 1.
The glove vanes aided in performance at supersonic speeds, but ultimately were not a huge improvement.
The F-14B and D variants did not have the glove vanes, they were only installed on the F-14A models.
Regarding the Radar systems.
The F-14A was the first "Production" Tomcat and as such the Radar and its abilities were completely operational.
The F-14A was built with the AIM54 Phoenix missile in mind, meaning that the Radar was purposely selected for its ability to integrate the AIM54.
There is footage on UA-cam of an F-14A Tomcat acquiring 6 test targets and firing on all 6 with the AIM54A.
The AN/AWG-9 is an amazing and extremely powerful Radar, even by today's standards. I think it is still the largest and most powerful Radar to have been fitted to a fighter/strike aircraft.
Also, TWS (Track While Scan) is nothing to do with a weapon's "fire and forget" capability.
TWS just means that the Radar will use part of its power for tracking a target and it will use the remaining power to keep scanning, giving the crew better situational awareness and also allowing for more targets to be picked up.
RWS (Range While Search) focuses the Radars "cone" (the area the Radar is looking at) and provides more detail on targets in this "cone".
STT (Single Target Track) is exactly what the name implies, you are focusing all of your Radar's power on a single target. This is often the mode that will be used when guiding Fox 1 missiles (semi-active Radar guided) to a target. A "Fox 1" missile does not have onboard Radar and relies on the launch vehicle to update the target position and guide it in.
The AIM54 Phoenix is a "Fox 3" missile, it has an onboard Radar that activates once the launch vehicle stops giving it guidance, meaning that the launch aircraft can remain in TWS or RWS Radar modes and launch on multiple targets without alerting the targets that there is a weapon guidance lock on them.
The biggest reason why the AIM54 was such a scary weapon was that the TWS/RWS feature on the AN/AWG-9 was strong enough that the Tomcat could keep 6 targets actively tracked while the missiles were inbound, meaning the missiles did not need to activate their onboard Radars.
Once the AIM54 was closer to its target, it would enter its 'terminal' phase and activate its onboard Radar for more accurate guidance calculations. Once its Radar was activated, the target would then receive an RWR warning, however, it was already too late.
The AIM54 was within seconds of impact, giving the target less than a few seconds to react.
The AN/AWG-9 Radar also had another 'party trick'.
Because of how powerful it is, it is able to 'burn through' ECM (Electronic Counter Measure) jamming pods at greater ranges.
The way most ECM Jamming pods work is that they deliberately send multiple echoes back when they detect a Radar signal. This results in the Radar seeing the bearing of the target, but not the range as it will show multiple targets on the same bearing line, but at varying ranges.
This makes missile tracking difficult as the missile does not know which range to fly for.
The closer the Radar is to the ECM, the more Radar energy is focused on it, allowing the Radar to "burn through" and see the actual target and not the echoes. The catch is that the target is usually within visual range by the time this happens, meaning you are going to be dogfighting and are at a higher risk. Some missiles have a HOJ (Home On Jam) mode, in which the missile would average the ranges and fly toward the target's "noise".
The Tomcats AN/AWG-9 was so powerful that it could burn through most ECM jamming pods while still at BVR ranges, meaning the Tomcat crews could still engage from a 'safe' distance, without having to resort to dogfighting.
Even if it did, the F-14 had EXCELLENT nose authority and was exceptional at dogfighting, even though it was a large aircraft.
One of the key reasons for the Tomcat's EXCELLENT flight handling characteristics was the all-moving horizontal stabilizers (rear wings) that had a surface area of 70ft² each, totaling 140ft² of surface area controlling the aircraft's pitch.
Compare that to the F/A18 A/B/C/D Hornets' horizontal stabilizers (rear wings, also called "Tailerons" on the Hornet) which had a total surface area of 88ft² squared, or 44ft² squared each.
Hope this read was fun and not too technical :)
it is a fun read, I've been watching DCS content lately so it's fun to finally understand what these terms the DCS players often use, one thing i'm confused is the RWR not triggered until the missile goes pitbull, in my understanding, RWR triggered if you've been "seen" by a radar, however on the TWS mode you described, when the Tomcat tracks their targets, why're their RWR not triggered? is it because of the radar intensity of the TWS mode so it doesn't picked up by the RWR? why isn't the RWR triggered *before* the phoenix uses its own radar?
@@fdenrico9861 - Hi mate, cheers.
When I speak about the RWR not triggering, I mean in terms of a weapon launch warning.
The assumption being that if you are a potential target, then you will be operating in an area with active radars.
Most pilots will acknowledge an active radar, but generally won't react to it until they get a threat warning.
So yeah, any time I mention the rwr not giving a warning, it is in reference to the warning type.
While in TWS/RWS mode, you are using a low power profile that an RWR would see as a general scan and as such the RWR will treat it as such.
Because you are not needing to guide the weapon into the target, just close to it, you don't need all the information to be exact.
As such, you don't need to focus the radar beam.
When the AIM54 gets within 11 miles, it will activate its own onboard radar, which will then focus onto the target to provide accurate information.
This is when the targets RWR will go bezerk with a missile launch warning.
The catch is, the target will think it is a launch from the radar 50 miles away, when in reality, the missile is 10 seconds away.
With semi-active missiles, you need accurate information to guide them to the target.
TWS/RWS can still be used, but you need to know when your missile is close to the target so you can switch to STT mode and give the missile accurate information.
Given that the missile won't show on radar, this makes this next to impossible, so semi-active missiles are launched in STT mode and the targets RWR will be alerted as soon as the missile comes off the rail.
Hope this helps.
@@Blandy086 ahhh i see, now i understand why
in any scenario, it'd be normal if you're being tracked by radar since you're not flying a stealth plane, hence why it is considered normal and relatively safe when your rwr shows that you're being tracked, only when rwr shows that there's a missile launched that it is considered dangerous
that's where the TWS mode advantages comes in... thanks for the explanation!
plus it's interesting that you can use a fox1 missile similarly to a fox3 missile like that, even though it requires the pilot to do it manually instead of let the fox3 missile do its own thing with its own onboard radar
Yeah, even for as large of an aircraft it is, and being designed as an interceptor in mind, the F-14 could dance with the F-15 any day of the week, and was *very* good in the two-circle.
I believe the F14, F15 and the F16 benefit from the 'lifting body' experiments starting in the 1960 in that the shape of the fuselage contributes to a significant degree the lift of the airframe. That's why there are famous stories of F-15 wings and horizontal stabs being damaged so badly in the last 20 years of warfare where they could still make it back to base after being hit by AAA or SAMs.
Along with the one wing F-15 story
the body of the f-14 added about 25% lift all on its own .... lol and yeah, the Pratt and Whitney engines are the weaker ones.. primarily on the the F-14 A.. it was the engine that was notorious for compressor stalling .. i believe the F14 B was when they made the switch to the more reliable General Electric engines that produced like 32000 pounds of thrust each .. something like that
I mean... The TF30-P-414A engines weren't "weak" by ANY stretch of the imagination...
They produced a maximum of 20,900lbf of thrust while the F110-GE-400 23,400lbf of thrust... A difference of only 2,500lbf.
They were too prone to compressor stalls, which is why the F-14B onwards had the F110-GE-400 engines.
Keep in mind, the new engines increased weight and the top speed never changed...
Operational figures for the F-14 Tomcat, not the "No fuel, slick paint, speed runs to break records" configuration.
F-14A -
Weight: 40,102lb
Top Speed: 1,341kts (Mach 2.01)
F-14B
Weight: 41,777lb
Top Speed: 1,341kts (Mach 2.01)
F-14D
Weight: 43,739lb
Top Speed: 1,341kts (Mach 2.01)
Don't get me wrong, the F110-GE-400 engines were better and the Tomcat was better for having them.
Just don't like seeing "weak" being written about an outstanding engine for its time.
It was designed in the 1960s, while the F110-GE-400 was 20 years later.
10:08 - Those "canards" are called glove vanes. They were intended to reduce "mach tuck" (a tendency for aircraft passing through transonic speeds to pitch down uncommanded), but they wound up being fairly ineffective. As a result, most F-14As had them disabled and welded shut by carrier air wing maintenance crews, and they were removed from later revisions of the Tomcat entirely.
Bruh gay
@@eykeld.p6538 And they should only deploy above/around Mach 2, not only when the wings were full back, unless manually deployed.
Thanks for that insight :)
@@pooledh18 - They would deploy once the aircraft had passed Mach 1...
Not Mach 2.
Yeah the A model had engines that would flame out if you go from idle to full throttle. Also those canards are called Glove Vanes. They were used to help deflect the flow of air to be more over the wings, so the plan can turn at higher speeds
They didn't "flame out", they would just fail to ignite the afterburner which is what led to the asymmetric thrust which could lead to the classic uncontrollable flat spin. The other problem the original engines had was that they were very prone to compressor stalls, so that was always a risk when at low speeds and high AoA.
Vanes
@@Skilly_J "They were very prone to compressor stalls, so that was always a risk when at low speeds and high AoA" Tomcat will slightly bank due to asymetric thrust, add pilot stress and panic when you dont expecting it and one little mistake like trying to balance it with ailerons instead of rudder and it can cost lives... RIP Lt. Kara Hultgreen
The glove vanes were there to allow the plane to fly at supersonic speeds without needing too much up-elevator trim, as the center of lift moved rearward with the wings.
@@zmatekk ty for stating the correct I formation, alot of bad info on this thread.
You’ve gotta use the multi function menu for the tws mode. At the moment, the key bind has not yet been added into the settings
you can use change radar mode to cycle through the modes with a keybind
The early Tomcats had what's known as glove vanes (the canard like wings that protrude from the front of the wing.) The glove vanes would deploy at over 1.4 mach irrc and helped the plane turn tighter at higher speeds, up to 7.5g at mach 2. They were removed on later models because of the weight, complexity, and general unuse for normal combat/patrol speeds.
F14A has the older engines, they were prone to compressor stalls (which is half the reason goose died in topgun) and the F14B has the upgraded engines
I know someone's gonna do it, so I'll just do it first:
Phly, you should play the Hawk III Chinese fighter; 900lbs of bombs in a biplane at 1.0 that you can dogfight in after dropping. Totally balanced.
I'm sorry, I just couldn't resist it...
Shut up
Lmfao this feels cursed
PHLY, just.. DO IT!!
Why does it say no stream
Same idk
Yeah it’s weird
This makes me a sad panda
Same
Ya wtf it’s not working
The tomcat is by far my favorite aircraft, could be from the fact it was a Grumman aircraft and is tied to Long Island, could be from the tv show jag, but this fantastic machine has my love. So happy it’s finally here.
The TomCat looks so modern compared to the other vehicles it looks out of this world
Ka-52: Am I joke to you?
@@PhilippSeven yes
@@PhilippSeven Oh that too but its not as sleek as the Tomcat
The Viggen is also a 4th gen fighter though
@@llab3903 Best attack helicopter in the world is a joke? Okey...
Fun fact most of the Glove veins on the earlier A models were welded shut because they were to much of a hassle maintenance wise (as was the rest of the plane) in order to spare precious down time and running costs.
Well those Phoenix missiles are something special.
They can switch from being a Fox 1 (passive radar quided) like the Sparrow to being a Fox 3 (active radar homing) like a AMRAM from the hornet.
When you launch the Phoenix, like Phly said, in TWS long range it first comes off the rail passive as Fox 1 with the F-14 needing to ceep the lock on the target active or it is defeated. Once it gets close enough it goes Pitbull what means the missiles own radar starts emmiting and painting the target, what alarms the target of its presence but the F-14 can breake lock and go defensive, making it autonomous from the F-14.
You can also send a Phoenix active from the get go like in a close proximity dogfight fust like a Sidewinder, just heavier and more explosive.
That missile was astonishing for it's time.
I think in the Traininggrounds Phly just had the Aim-54s active from the start reducing theyr tracking range although it should not be a problem locking a hot or cold target, notched yes but not just limited to rear aspect.
I am looking forward to seeing the F-14 in action, thank you for the videos Phly
The F-14 doesn't need to keep an STT lock on the target in the first phase of flight for the Phoenix. It uses track while scan mode to keep track of the target with it's computer, and relays that information to the the missile. The missile itself doesn't use it's radar like a Fox 1, instead relying on it's own INS and course corrections from the mother ship to get close. Then, as you say, it goes active with it's own radar. It can also be fired as a Fox1 semi-active missile (like a Sparrow) with the F-14 having a hard STT lock on the target, but it will never go pit bull in that mode.
@@RocketToTheMoose indeed the F-14 can just keep the bogey on TWS for the Phoenix to find the target, maybe I phrased it wrong yes but that is how it was explained to me if I remember correctly.
Or they just used the 'Fox-1' explanation during phase one as why I should not break TWS lock since the missile would go dumb if the RIO looses the target.
I do not know if you can lose the target and reaquire it for the missile to then correct onto it.
You could also fire the Phoenix Fox-1 during boresight mode, with the radar just pointing straight ahead and illuminating everything Infront of it, giving the missiles the ability to just follow the first best radar reflection. But since that is a very inaccurate mode if you have a furball (many jets close together) and has a short range it would not be my mode of choice.
That little valley in between the engine intake & the fuselage is called a "boundary layer diverter". The fuselage can build up a substantially thick layer of turbulent, slower moving air that can cause problems for a turbine, so that little notch/valley keeps the intake away from that stuff.
The A's and B's with the TF30 were notorious for flameouts and compressor stalls inducing asymmetric thrust - resulting in flat spins like the one in Top Gun.
The B model had the F110 engine like the D. The D added a better flight control system, better avionics and radar.
@@xxtertalpiratexx yep. F-14B had the F110s.
no B`s has TF30 Only A`s
Correction: Only the A variant had Pratt and Whitney TF30 engines. The B variant had General Electric F110 engines.
I remember the first time I saw one of these at an air and space museum in Denver. It is quite the plane, and never fails to make me smile. Although they also had a B-1B there too, which took away a lot of the attention for obvious reasons. Give us more swing wings War Thunder. F-111 if you please.
The B-1 at Wings Over the Rockies is actually one of the original B-1As!
@@pooledh18 Good to know. I was a lot younger at the time, and we weren't spending too long there. It doesn't detract from any of it though.
A open world aircraft game would be so fun
PWTF 30s were very weak down at low altitudes showing very poor acceleration. but they were lighter and gave the F-14A a higher top speed. Now the later General electric F110 was better at accelerating and removed the compressor stall issues on the TF30 but they were heavier and slowed the jet down.
Aim54 Radar turns on at 11nm from the target. The F-14 should also have the Aim7M which is one of the best SARH missiles.
The weight of the engines should have little to no effect on maximum airspeed, especially if they give that much extra thrust
The PWTF30 is interesting though, as its effectively a scaled down version of the engine in the SR-71. It has excellent high altitude performance, and at high altitude actually performs slightly better at high altitude than the GE-110's. However the need to operate/fight at varying speeds and altitudes, gives the GE-110's a considerable edge. Additionally, part of Grumman getting the contract was that they agreed to use the PWTF-30's because they were the same engines if the F-111 Aardvark, which the Tomcat is a successor of.
@@spindash64 Well historically that's what happened and aggressive throttle control would also cause compressor stalls overall not a great engine for the F-14, but if you got up high they would produce more thrust and gave the early F-14 a higher top speed than later variants.
@@davidlosey431
I suppose I can understand that from a “can you make this work with the same logistics chain for us?” Perspective.
The weight is no factor in the equation for maximum speed. It only factors in in how fast you achieve that speed. Thrust and air resistance is what determines maximum speed.
F14A is the under powered tf30 engine. F14B/D got the proper engines.
Considering the trailer showed bombs I can only assume theyll be bringing the f14B/D in shortly.
Room for expansion ... They will come up with a Premium version sooner or later, either the B, D, or Iranian variant.
oh god i hope not, this F-14 is already a huge powercreep, its faster then any thing in game has better missiles and can turn on a dime. minor nations need to get something else first (and ooohh boy china is gonna shine bright)
They still don't have the thrust correct for that engine model. It should be 9480kg/20,900 lbf with afterburner
Yeah the B is the one which is going to be a god among planes, just absolutely absurd flight performance. I imagine it will be a while before we see the F-14B.
@@DaMeatSack Sweden is fine, they have the viggen
/s
Just finished watching TopGun Maverick and it was amazing! Can’t wait to try out the new F-14 in WarThunder now
Wait until the A+ and B models. The "weak engine" thing will be handled. Also, the 6x Phoenix loadout was called a "Doomsday Loadout" because the plane couldn't safely land on the carrier with six missiles slung. And those "canards" are glove vane extensions that proved to be so problematic (they broke - a lot) that they ended up welding them closed.
Figured they’d match mig27 speed 2200kmh is not overpowered
A+ and B are synonymous, they are the same jet. And the Tomcat could recover with 6x 54s, just with lower safety margins than typical. It was flown off the ship at least once and recovered that way.
@@pooledh18 Something tells me they won't be in War Thunder - more opportunity to force a grind. They'll probably add better loadouts to the B or give it the C-model Phoenix and -9M.
This is a Common Misconception the 14 could land with 6 AIM-54s its just that by the time the fuel was that low to get you down to trap weight you would not have enough fuel should your bolter.
The awg9 radar system could track a lot more targets but only target 6. I worked on it and have played with it in sim mode. Also, at long range the Phoenix would climb to around 100k ft and glide/dive into the target.
Witch is not moddeled in game sice the alt-limit is way below that
@@patricktho6546 Bruh what? The limit is 27,000 meters, and that's not "way below" 30,000 meters
@@elia_ssss it is dependand on climb rate (with slow ones it is more like 25 Km) and 3 Km is quite a lot.
Over 10 % and bigger than most mountains in War Thunder (above See Level)
Fun F-14 fact - those dark green patches just behind the wing roots are inflatable canvas bags. They inflate to fill the gap left by the wing when it's swept forwards.
Thanks! I was wondering why that area looked so peculiar(-ly colored).
Ah right, the F14, 11.3. Tier compression is about to get a whole lot worse
would help if they did a tutorial on top tier mechanics, like how missiles work, their weaknesses, strengths how to evade ect
I like that when the wings are folded it looks like a paper plane
notching is best used you know where the missile is, you then move your aircaft to a 90* angle to the missile, the radar on the missile thinks you are part of the ground becuase you are "not moving" to the radar missile. (this ONLY WORKS for the pheonix or any other semi active radar missile). also the sweeping wings help it go faster, unswept lets it go slower mainly for landing.
Dad, the TV’s not working again
Those little canards that slide out were only on the A models. Later B's and D's did away with them.
135Gr doesnt have em either
No stream it says? Uh I think it broke
This model is a early version as later they had F-15/16 engines fitted. The TF30 caused a lot of crashes and often guys were discouraged to save the plane in a dual engine failure. Still amazing plane though. It will be missed. Good stuff as always Phly. You gotta stop by in Northern Ohio and see a Bombcat you can touch and walk under.
so for the swept wings, they are built that way to specifically improve the speed of acceleration at MACH speeds, this significantly reduced drag, and kept the maneuverability to a decent standard
8:15 - The missile mechanics in game do not simulate it enough to reach mach 4+. the missile lofts to maybe 60k feet and then dives / coasts to the target - gaining speed while doing so. Also, this is the dev server.
Attempt 326:
Play the forgotten Mig-9 and show everyone the power of the original 37MM/23MM Vodka launcher Jet.
i am a catapult guy off an aircraft carrier. i lauched the f14d's off the kittyhawk before they were phased out. Those D's have one very fucking big engine. At night when launching you should see the size of the afterburners. Stupid big. When we launch them off the cat and as they are going down the flightdeck the massive amounts of air going into the intake make the afterburbers much bigger. Same with the Rhinos and baby''s, super hornets and hornets for non flightdeck guys. 2.7 seconds to be exact. And yes i have launched french Saab Rafael off the flightdeck as well. Saab Rafael's are also aricraft carrier jets for those who do not know. i think the rafael is a slick looking fighter
I had a red tail hawk come zipping by with its wings swept back just like an f-14 the other day. Their shoulders even create the same look the f-14 has with the lifting body.
The spoilers are not supposed to deploy when the wings are in bomb mode or further back.
The F-14B and D have the same engine and are very good. There is some weird stuff when it comes to model types but overall the F-14A has relatively underpowered engines. When the new models come out it should be a power house.
they don't have the same engine wtf?
@@ex0ghost837 negative, the classic A models have the TF30 engine which everyone thought didn't have enough power and were very susceptible to compressor stalls (not that we'll have to worry about that in war thunder) so in the B and D models they got an upgrade to the F110 and those put out some good thrust and fixed the compressor stall issue.
@@xxtertalpiratexx The. A was actually faster then the B and D just could stall alot
@@blackopscw7913 the A was only faster at high altitude. The B and D had much better acceleration and sea level performance. It took some time for the A to reach it's top speed. It's high altitude top speed was pretty nutty though.
@@xxtertalpiratexx Yeah, it was a good intercepter, a fighter? Less so
The movable glove vanes on the wing gloves (the thing you didn't know about F-14) are indicative of he F-14A early variant. They were subsequently blocked/removed on later planes because they tended to break and get stuck easily.
The pilots head was moving when you was looking at the front of the jet from outside view. That’s cool
Perfect timing with the TG: Maverick release
will there be a premium version?
I told y’all
Who else is excited for the update? So many cool vehicles other than the tomcat too, like the g6 rhino. Keep up the good work Phly!
I was excited until I saw where in the research tree it was located. (I'm an F-4E player)
@@CrazyAlexer Get ready to be Tomcatted
Since a wee little lad. I have always held the view and still do that the Tomcat is the most beautiful fighter plane ever created.
10:09 I don't know if Phly will even see this, but those canards are something that I've only recently learned about as well.
Apparently these canards are called "Glove Vanes," and to my knowledge they were only implemented on earlier variations of the F-14 Tomcat; whereas the later versions of the F-14 do NOT bolster this feature.
Day 208: Phly, you should play the Hawk III Chinese fighter; 900lbs of bombs in a biplane at 1.0 that you can dogfight in after dropping. Totally balanced.
never stop mate
Every time Phly uploads a vid, I immediately look for your comment. Keep it up man, it’ll happen someday!
@@mr.eegroll3529 same
the TF-30s were eventually replaced with a variant of the engine as the F-15 and F-16, its the same engine but built in a much longer configuration in order to work in place of the longer TF-30s. they have a lot more power, but more importantly they fixed the problem that caused them to stall out
Mate my best jet fighter is the F-14 tomcat. It might be old but it still is named the worlds best all round fighter in the 1950s until the 1990s. Love the topgun theme. I feel like the F-14 is going to be one of the best planes in WT and possibly the best. Its about time. Ever since i watched topgun for my first time i just yearned for it to be in WT for ages. One of my favourite movie's best plane is now coming to the game!
Can’t wait to see the movie
Literally just saw it, it’s damn good I’ll tell you that
@@smogdanoff7053 dang
Day 401: Phly, I challenge you to get 8 kills in one game with the SU-5-1. This MBT/Tank Destroyer is severely underloved in your channel.
MBT? Hmmm...
It does have TWS mode Phly, you have to swap radar mode, same way as between scan and PD. Just added another mode to swap to.
I literally watched Top Gun less than an hour before this video was uploaded and I feel like this update was made for me.
Can't Wait to See the MiG-29 Getting Introduced!
Or the SU-27 Flanker :D That would be a nice counter for the F-14. But of course with the R-27ET missile wich has a range up to 120km.
@@leventemajoros9250 then it’s facing the D model not the early A model lol
@levente majoros LOL MIG-29 will counter it by F14D or the powerful F15 eagle, if they release the "fulcrum" there is an F16 falcon can counter.
Says no stream
Same
Same
5:50 - It's called TWS - Track While Scan - lets you track and launch on multiple targets.
Important to note that the AIM-54 is a *heavy* missile, and you really need to be high up in the atmosphere for it to perform well. The Phoenix attacks a target top down like a Javelin ATGM as an example, so it will climb as it approaches the target and gains speed before entering the strike distance, where it will then sharply dive towards the target aircraft from above.
Phly Daily goes on a crazy explaination about how the F-14 Missiles work. Here's a TLDR verison:
The missile knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't. By subtracting where it is from where it isn't, or where it isn't from where it is (whichever is greater), it obtains a difference, or deviation. The guidance subsystem uses deviations to generate corrective commands to drive the missile from a position where it is to a position where it isn't, and arriving at a position where it wasn't, it now is. Consequently, the position where it is, is now the position that it wasn't, and it follows that the position that it was, is now the position that it isn't.
In the event that the position that it is in is not the position that it wasn't, the system has acquired a variation, the variation being the difference between where the missile is, and where it wasn't. If variation is considered to be a significant factor, it too may be corrected by the GEA. However, the missile must also know where it was.
Day 324: Of asking phly to play the dicker max because it’s 105 is basically cheating at is br and it can survive and they also moved it down to 3.7
Bruh d-max players are so bad. I just yeet them with planes or one shot with t-34.
Keep going! Never give up!
Your missile explanation called me back to “the missile knows where it is. Because it knows where it isn’t”
I remember years ago talking about how sick it would be when War Thunder eventually got to modern jets and how well the flight system (M+KB) would work with them, and I remember people bombarding me and calling me an idiot because WT would NEVER do modern jets and it would feel shit to fly if they did. I remember asking them to explain why it would be shit and them just continually saying "it'd just be shit" without explaining why.
What about A10 it was added long time ago and it is most modern jet in war thunder
@@miknabej_2252 I was saying this like upwards of 8+ years ago when the most modern jet we had was the MIG-15bis. When I say years ago I MEAN YEARS ago lol
Its called the INTAKE. :) Tomcats are big jets, they are resource heavy usage and they have a LOT of complicated moving parts and more parts means more things that can fail and more things that take longer to fix because they are complex and not designed to work easily on. The Hornet was a WELCOME replacement. If you can in the game, Pull your outer most wing in and keep the wing pointing downward out. You'll turn faster. Don't know if you can in this game, but that's a tactic IRL back in the day. Also, IRL you would accelerate when you land and hope your hook caught that way if you missed the cables, you could take back off. Does that work in this as well?
That one meme:
F/A 18- Bad Jet
F14 Tomcat- cool guy 😎
Can't wait for Jester to eject in the middle of a dogfight
Phly: READY FOR TAKEOFF
Deck: Right, turn your plane to-
Phly: READY NOW
Deck:
This is the beauty you get when your design motto for your fighter is “not a pound for air to ground.”
The F-14 is a beautiful aircraft. It just looks great.
I was hoping you would open the video like that and you didn't disappoint :D Cheers from Canada!!!!
"goose, how you doing back there?" my man phly is cultured
About 5 years ago I never imagined an F14 would be in war Thunder
Never noticed that your engine sounds cut off, when you reach supersonic speeds. I mean, of course you should stop hearing your engine when you fly faster than the speed of sound, but it's still a nice detail to implement :)
There should still be sound transmitted through the airframe, though. Can’t leave that behind.
@@joer5518 You hear it if you are in first person but not in 3rd person
Okay, after Phly explained how the missile work, I understood why this plane was such a major piece of hardware in it's day.
i watched the first top gear again today, like 1 hour before watching this, really cool, love it
Don’t know if I’m more excited for movie or flying this
Super gorgeous aircraft! You phlew this beautifully Steve. More please.
I saw one of those planes up close and it is intimidating how large the F14 is
Top Gun 2, seeing it tomorrow. Been looking forward to it for the past 36 years!
Top Gun 2 definitely worth seeing in theater!
I WAS JUST LOOKING FIR A PHLY VIDEO
god: So, how much patience do you want Phly?
Phly: yes.
Honestly my first impressions of the jet is that is cool and all, but 60 countermeasures is not a lot. Even though I do run single chaff and single flare (mixed). This only gives me 30 pops before I am out and dead. I don't think this is going to be a massive issue, but maybe in the future the f14 can receive a ecm pod.
16:22 So that’s not actually related to the TWS capability, TWS is exactly what the name says, you can keep tabs on a target while still scanning for other threats without them knowing you’ve locked em. Being able to disengage comes from the Phoenix seeker, because the range is massive, the time to pitbull is also massive and basically the Phoenix will always be pitbull in war thunder maps.
some F-14A’s had those canards they where fazed out by the time the D variant of the tomcat come around
Those sweeping canards you're referencing at the start are Glove Vanes. They would deploy above supersonic speeds around 1.4 mach, and only the F-14A had them. And from what I understand, even then on deployment, they usually didn't use them or deactivated them some how. Later models of the F-14 did away with them all together. My understanding is that they were a giant maintenance hassle and they had trouble with them, more trouble than they were worth I'd assume. I believe the purpose of the glove vanes were to give the pilot more pitch and turning authority at speeds above 1.5 mach, essentially to pull more G at those speeds. I'd think you're not really doing a lot of hard maneuvering at those speeds anyway, since it's well above the best turning speed for the Tomcat...but that's the extent of my knowledge about it.
You hear the bullets flying past before you hear the sound"
-Phly 2022
Phly when you land on a carrier your supposed to full throttle in case you miss the wires but still great landing
I like how the snail made a trailer when Top gun movie is now on cinemas
That tailwind at the end tho!!!!
😍
you can switch your radar search mode to TWS in the radar menu on deffult Y button, mike goes boom showed it in thunder stream..:)
Those little canard are called glove vanes, they are only on the A varient to help with super sonic flight stability
Basically, the defining factor of the A variant are the engines with their tendency to compressor stall.
Phly looks like Anthony Edward's the actor who played "Goose" in the first top gun.
This is epic.
I'm blasting "Danger Zone".