Loved the honesty in the video, Mark II's punch way above their price point. The problem with them is they dont have the aftermarket support that other manufacturers have. If MDT or MPA made a top line chassis you would see a lot more Mk II's kicking people in the nuts at the range! My budget Mk II FV is every bit as capable as my B14R, what limits the Savage is how damn light it is in my opinion. You are right on Brian calling out the plastic crap, it's like how I felt and still tell people today about the Bergara, "for $1100 you would think they could include a top rail and maybe a trigger that didn't suck so bad. Hope you find an ammo your CZ likes!
@MnMarine1 thanks id never really heard anyone say anything negative about the cz and I was surprised to find out there was some things I didn't like about it. But the aftermarket support will take care of that. Your right if the mark ii had that theyd be way more popular. As for the rail I'll drill and tap it if it gives me problems. Once I get some more trigger time with it and the right ammo I'll probably be cz fan boy too lol
@bfox87 so funny story stopped in and saw a savage fv sitting on the shelf at my local gs and took it home today. Shot 25 5-shot groups with 4 different types of ammo. Had .379" average group size. Dang you and thank you! 😄
@22guru d.i.p has them they're just on backorder, id definitely like to get that changed out. Then the trigger and barrel ect... sky's the limit with the 457 I should of mentioned that in the video. I think I was just hoping to out shoot the savage right out of the box. I'll get it there
@@bfox87 thanks man a lot of them took me a while to get together one piece at a time over years as money allowed. I got addicted real quick. I think Im in 50 Facebook groups! 😆
I have the Savage Mark ll FV-SR. It's a good entry level target rifle. I don't think it shoots as well as your Savage. The bolt on my Savage was gritty at first. I'm not a big fan of the Accu Trigger. Rifle Basix is the only one to make a trigger for the Mark ll that I'm aware of. But it looks like you took care of the trigger. I also have the CZ Lux. It's not a bull barrel like the MTR. I put a Timney trigger in it. My CZ will easily out shoot my mark ll. But my Tikka T1X, Bergara B14R and Ruger American Long Range Target will out shoot my CZ. I am tempted to buy the MTR. I think you and one other UA-camr got Savage Mark ll's that shoot really well. I've debated about getting a trigger and a different stock for my Mark ll. But I'm also tempted to buy the Savage Mark ll TR with a wooden stock. My problem is I have way too many 22 rifles. It's hard for me to justify buying another lol.
@@BoomstickMark4 right I'm getting a good collection myself for my wallet sake I hope I don't get a 700 platform 22lr anytime soon lol but between the mtr 457 and the mid to upper level mrkii I think they are equal both have pros and cons. Once the cz grows on me ill probably like it alot more tho
I own a 455 and a 457, they both have out shot every savage i have ever came across. Both have a less than 1 lb trigger (spring kit) i bought for $20 and installed myself. CZ uses flared pins that only come out one way, so no need for keepers, nor is that pot metal. Both have great aftermarket support from the same companies in many cases. Personally i hate that accu trigger but to each is own. The upgrade ceiling on the savage is lower than the CZ and that is just a fact.
@@pranc236 I seen dip makes an billet aluminum magwell I'll get one and fell better about it your definitely right about the aftermarket support for the cz
@@bfox87 sounds like a plan although the plastic magwell is very low on my list of things to care about. Dovetail mount for optics is a valid gripe. I got a area 419 dovetail to picatinney rail for the 457 that i love so much i will probably get one for the 455 too. Trigger spring is from yodaves and may not be as good as a timmney but it’s $20 vs $200. The bolt will slick up with a little bit of use. What ammo are you using? I ask because real 22lr accuracy comes just as much from ammo as rifle. This is where the cz starts to shine. Would be happy to direct you to some sites for quality products and reference. Keep it up and have fun. Best wishes in your builds.
Thanks again for your input. I'll get some better scores of it I still need more trigger time with it. I have a lot of practice with the savage I've shot one hole groups at 100 with it
cant agree with you more.i have two savage mk 11 that i had for years shoot great with the right ammo-then i fell for the c/z hype and bought one.shoots good but more finicky with ammo due to match chamber.dont get me wrong i like my c/z but for the money i was shocked to see plastic ,and pot metal and barrel was free floated but wasnt even in barrel channel .thru several hundred rounds i dont find c/z more accurate then savage.just that c/z cost 3 times more
@cheech1557 yeah slight difference but it's there. Diminishing returns, usually spend alot for a little, the cz cost alot more and the savage isn't far behind it stock for stock. But the cz sky's the limit with aftermarket parts. Could spend a fortune just to get .1 better of a group. More to do with the shooter and ammo
Yup, MTR is same way. Plastic and I don't think that is pot metal? I only have one savage and I can't stand the mags! The trigger is about 346lbs also. I think the CZ is the better rifle by far ... why didn't you get a Bergara? Didn't you know all this about the CZ before hand? You sure stuck a ton of $$ into it for not knowing?
@CountryRimfire im just pointing out some differences. I'll get an aftermarket billet aluminum magwell and a good trigger for it. I didn't know it had plastic and the way the rail mounted before but either way I probably still would have gotten it. There are some things I don't like about it but they are things that can be replaced, I may even drill and tap the action for the rail, assembled it weights 20lb and sometimes I need to pick it up by the scope I've seen scope rings get ripped off the dovetail more than once. Overall, I really like it I just still want to change some things
@bfox87 no it has a crap trigger lol 😆 😂 I hate the rifle with a passion! I never shoot it. I think because of it I would never buy another Savage. But I see people do amazing things with them. I might one day get another. It definitely wouldn't be a cheap one lol
@CountryRimfire tommy.22lr just got one after watching this video, and he said he's putting down .3 average on 5 5shot groups out of the box. The new ones are pretty good, too bad they don't have good aftermarket support like the cz. This dude with my chassis is ignoring my messages I'm about to go get it and do it myself 😅 I like to support local business but I may have messed up letting this kid drive off with my stuff
Interesting I don't have that Savage with that bieng said Personally My 457 CZ Fac. Other Than Timney trig. is Hands down Dead Nutz Im a believer Most Accurate Rifle ever fired I have the Varmint MTR That stock is heavy Low center and Solid If I'm shooting off it's Me and or not cleaning it like it likes JMO.💀✌🏻
@nopro5433 oh yeah the cz are very accurate yours does real good too, I just would like to get rid of the plastic and drill and tap the action for the Pic rail. But maybe I'm just being picky lol
@@bfox87 yeah I try to leave it factory.Timney is a huge factor They've got these things dialed you go messing with them. You may lose a little. Again just my opinion and I'm sure that Savage could do just as good.I just find something special with the CZ State of the art in my world.👽
Loved the honesty in the video, Mark II's punch way above their price point. The problem with them is they dont have the aftermarket support that other manufacturers have. If MDT or MPA made a top line chassis you would see a lot more Mk II's kicking people in the nuts at the range! My budget Mk II FV is every bit as capable as my B14R, what limits the Savage is how damn light it is in my opinion. You are right on Brian calling out the plastic crap, it's like how I felt and still tell people today about the Bergara, "for $1100 you would think they could include a top rail and maybe a trigger that didn't suck so bad.
Hope you find an ammo your CZ likes!
@MnMarine1 thanks id never really heard anyone say anything negative about the cz and I was surprised to find out there was some things I didn't like about it. But the aftermarket support will take care of that. Your right if the mark ii had that theyd be way more popular. As for the rail I'll drill and tap it if it gives me problems. Once I get some more trigger time with it and the right ammo I'll probably be cz fan boy too lol
Been considering getting a mark2. I have never owned one, but everyone says they are the best accuracy for the money.
Can't be beat for the money, with a little work they shoot just as good, they just don't have the aftermarket support to take them to the next level
@bfox87 so funny story stopped in and saw a savage fv sitting on the shelf at my local gs and took it home today. Shot 25 5-shot groups with 4 different types of ammo. Had .379" average group size. Dang you and thank you! 😄
@@tommy.22lr lol awsome they are very accurate
I swapped out my magazine well and parts out for metal ones from Pete's pillars.
I think the company called dyi has metal upgrades.
@22guru d.i.p has them they're just on backorder, id definitely like to get that changed out. Then the trigger and barrel ect... sky's the limit with the 457 I should of mentioned that in the video. I think I was just hoping to out shoot the savage right out of the box. I'll get it there
@@bfox87 dip that's it. Beautiful rifles. Checking your vids out 💪!
@22guru thank you, idk if anyone can top your 1022 and 22 pistol collection tho 💪
@@bfox87 thanks man a lot of them took me a while to get together one piece at a time over years as money allowed.
I got addicted real quick.
I think Im in 50 Facebook groups! 😆
I have the Savage Mark ll FV-SR. It's a good entry level target rifle. I don't think it shoots as well as your Savage. The bolt on my Savage was gritty at first. I'm not a big fan of the Accu Trigger. Rifle Basix is the only one to make a trigger for the Mark ll that I'm aware of. But it looks like you took care of the trigger. I also have the CZ Lux. It's not a bull barrel like the MTR. I put a Timney trigger in it. My CZ will easily out shoot my mark ll. But my Tikka T1X, Bergara B14R and Ruger American Long Range Target will out shoot my CZ. I am tempted to buy the MTR. I think you and one other UA-camr got Savage Mark ll's that shoot really well. I've debated about getting a trigger and a different stock for my Mark ll. But I'm also tempted to buy the Savage Mark ll TR with a wooden stock. My problem is I have way too many 22 rifles. It's hard for me to justify buying another lol.
@@BoomstickMark4 right I'm getting a good collection myself for my wallet sake I hope I don't get a 700 platform 22lr anytime soon lol but between the mtr 457 and the mid to upper level mrkii I think they are equal both have pros and cons. Once the cz grows on me ill probably like it alot more tho
I own a 455 and a 457, they both have out shot every savage i have ever came across. Both have a less than 1 lb trigger (spring kit) i bought for $20 and installed myself. CZ uses flared pins that only come out one way, so no need for keepers, nor is that pot metal. Both have great aftermarket support from the same companies in many cases. Personally i hate that accu trigger but to each is own. The upgrade ceiling on the savage is lower than the CZ and that is just a fact.
@@pranc236 good pionts thanks for watching
@@pranc236 I seen dip makes an billet aluminum magwell I'll get one and fell better about it your definitely right about the aftermarket support for the cz
@@bfox87 sounds like a plan although the plastic magwell is very low on my list of things to care about. Dovetail mount for optics is a valid gripe. I got a area 419 dovetail to picatinney rail for the 457 that i love so much i will probably get one for the 455 too. Trigger spring is from yodaves and may not be as good as a timmney but it’s $20 vs $200. The bolt will slick up with a little bit of use. What ammo are you using? I ask because real 22lr accuracy comes just as much from ammo as rifle. This is where the cz starts to shine. Would be happy to direct you to some sites for quality products and reference. Keep it up and have fun. Best wishes in your builds.
@pranc236 I've been running tenex and midas+ and been running sk rifle match in the savage
Thanks again for your input. I'll get some better scores of it I still need more trigger time with it. I have a lot of practice with the savage I've shot one hole groups at 100 with it
cant agree with you more.i have two savage mk 11 that i had for years shoot great with the right ammo-then i fell for the c/z hype and bought one.shoots good but more finicky with ammo due to match chamber.dont get me wrong i like my c/z but for the money i was shocked to see plastic ,and pot metal and barrel was free floated but wasnt even in barrel channel .thru several hundred rounds i dont find c/z more accurate then savage.just that c/z cost 3 times more
If you want a basic plinker the savage is fine. If you want options the 457 is far better. I own both and have enjoyed them very much.
@Cristopher1976 yes sir I should of mentioned the aftermarket options are far greater for the cz to bring it to the next level thanks for watching
What do you think about accuracy wise? Does the match chamber really make a difference
@cheech1557 yeah slight difference but it's there. Diminishing returns, usually spend alot for a little, the cz cost alot more and the savage isn't far behind it stock for stock. But the cz sky's the limit with aftermarket parts. Could spend a fortune just to get .1 better of a group. More to do with the shooter and ammo
What barrel are you running on the savage?
It's factory model brj comes spiral fluted and in the boyds stock for 200 beans more
Where'd you get that spiral fluted barrel for your savage?
@@kerryhall6170 gunbroker had it sent to ffl
@kerryhall6170 it's the brj model has a nice boyds stock too
Yup, MTR is same way. Plastic and I don't think that is pot metal?
I only have one savage and I can't stand the mags! The trigger is about 346lbs also.
I think the CZ is the better rifle by far ... why didn't you get a Bergara? Didn't you know all this about the CZ before hand? You sure stuck a ton of $$ into it for not knowing?
@CountryRimfire im just pointing out some differences. I'll get an aftermarket billet aluminum magwell and a good trigger for it. I didn't know it had plastic and the way the rail mounted before but either way I probably still would have gotten it. There are some things I don't like about it but they are things that can be replaced, I may even drill and tap the action for the rail, assembled it weights 20lb and sometimes I need to pick it up by the scope I've seen scope rings get ripped off the dovetail more than once. Overall, I really like it I just still want to change some things
Does your savage have the accutrigger? Got mine at a 1lb and it didn't cost anything
@bfox87 no it has a crap trigger lol 😆 😂
I hate the rifle with a passion! I never shoot it. I think because of it I would never buy another Savage. But I see people do amazing things with them. I might one day get another. It definitely wouldn't be a cheap one lol
@CountryRimfire tommy.22lr just got one after watching this video, and he said he's putting down .3 average on 5 5shot groups out of the box. The new ones are pretty good, too bad they don't have good aftermarket support like the cz. This dude with my chassis is ignoring my messages I'm about to go get it and do it myself 😅 I like to support local business but I may have messed up letting this kid drive off with my stuff
@bfox87 👀 you don't know them? 😳 I thought you were going through same guy as redneck rimfire?
Interesting I don't have that Savage with that bieng said Personally My 457 CZ Fac. Other Than Timney trig. is Hands down Dead Nutz Im a believer Most Accurate Rifle ever fired I have the Varmint MTR That stock is heavy Low center and Solid If I'm shooting off it's Me and or not cleaning it like it likes JMO.💀✌🏻
Thanks for the input. I have no doubt it'll out perform the savage, I just need a good day with it.
I would of shared how good it did in the match but the guys didn't wanna be recorded and our targets got ruined in the rain. It definitely shoots good
@@bfox87 Yea Love my CZ. I did do a bunch of research on it before got it and this was their Fac. benched accuracy model.she's been good to me🤞🏻💀✌🏻
@nopro5433 oh yeah the cz are very accurate yours does real good too, I just would like to get rid of the plastic and drill and tap the action for the Pic rail. But maybe I'm just being picky lol
@@bfox87 yeah I try to leave it factory.Timney is a huge factor They've got these things dialed you go messing with them. You may lose a little. Again just my opinion and I'm sure that Savage could do just as good.I just find something special with the CZ State of the art in my world.👽