@@lilachatsno. I don’t think she should be deplatformed at all. I do believe she won’t survive if she doesn’t get help soon though. Her friends getting her that 5150 weren’t being the bad guys either. They actually probably bought her a few more years.
@@lilachatseugenia’s issue is that she outright denies there’s an issue and is enabled by her mother. Which will eventually be manslaughter. Not just because she has an ED.
@@phoebesmith8154 go away, control freak. I will never agree with someone who makes assumptions on someone they DONT KNOW and feel entitled to their information. Leave the grown woman alone.
The thing is, its just like a drug addict. If she doesnt want to get better she wont no matter what they do. I understand wanting to help her but all theyre doing is making her distrust her friends and further isolating herself. Teach your kids to have a healthy self image and then no matter what body type they see they wont be influenced by it. All of this negative attention is just making the situation worse.
@@masseiy yeah that's a good possibility. Either way this is the solution. An intervention isn't going to work in this case ( ad we've seen). She's going to have to want to do it herself.
She speaks a lot with her fanbase of mostly children . Shes constantly interacting with them and is very “child like” . Shes my age and id be a creep if i did exactly as her. if I completely ignore her skeletal figure its still creepy. Its what she puts on twitch thats weird af. She can do what she wants but its not just kids viewing her . Its her heavily involved in interacting and usually half naked part while sometimes doing things on live stream for those with a kink that bothers me. Just age restrictions are necessary. Im not falling for the innocent michael jackson little girl schtick she does because of her sickness . Its her thing but for adults only
Honestly I’ve been in a psych-ward twice by my own volition cause I didn’t think I could keep myself safe and the amount of rights violations or intentional disrespect/triggering behaviour directed to the involuntary patients by staff was ridiculous…
I don’t know if it’s incredibly naïve of me, but I have never thought about patients being treated differently, depending on how they entered the facility! That’s so messed up! Did you have a good experience?
I was forced to go several times in my teens. It is exactly like prison. One time while they were signing me in they asked if I had any injuries and my mom told them I had a cut on my chest. The forced me to undress and be evaluated. I refused and they locked me in a tiny room with nothing but a metal bench until I complied.
@@valloriebarnes9800 hmmm I would say that it wasn’t really good but I definitely got treated with respect more consistently but as soon as I started getting emotional or frustrated I’d get threatened to be put on room restriction. There’s still a lot of mistreatment towards folks who present with stigmatized illnesses. But little to no compassion directed towards involuntary patients cause “they don’t want to get better” like yeah some of them don’t but that’s their choice and being there is making things worse
@@hannahh.8422 I’m so sorry you were forced to go, especially when it clearly was not a space that prioritized being a safe & supportive environment. It’s so unfortunate that the medical system thinks that folks with mental illness don’t have the capacity to advocate for themselves or deserve basic human rights. I’ve known a few folks who’s privacy was disgustingly violated. There was a girl in for ED, no history of other sh behaviour but if she wanted to shave her legs a nurse “had to be watching her”… she was a minor at the time.
Thank you for what you are doing, I am a 34 year old woman from Europe and because of you I have finally found my strength to fight back again. You've aspired me to save up to be able to go back to school and study to become a lawyer. For more than 10 years I have lived in a prison because of how society sees me as a patient of PTSD, as if the trauma's weren't enough to live with I have felt first-hand how it feels like not to matter in society because of a mental ilness. My own family locking me up in mental hospitals, doctors and psychiatrists who drugged me so bad I lost a baby, my freedom, my voice, my own body and mind. Thank you, you have no idea how much your channel is helping people. BJ investigates and That Surprise Witness TV have opened my eyes even more and I am ready to fight back to take back my own life and making the world aware of things happening which are far from okay. Taking people's freedom because they might have a mental ilness is more sick than the illness itself. Keep doing what you are doing please!
If eugenia wants people to stop being worried for her, then she should get a doctor to tell us that shes okay. If that happens then the comments will stop i promise that.
You go girl live your dream if you can do it go for it I know just like to feel like you don't matter just because you have a mental illness I live on disability which doesn't pay much I have had a lot of trouble in my youth it took me a little bit longer to grow up and make proper choices and things like that so I would often get into fights and do drugs and just make wrong choices nothing too bad but I realized I wasted a lot of my youth I realized we do matter every one of us the way the homeless people in my town are treated are just so sad I live in Canada so it is winter half the year and due to the recession people are living in a tent in Winter for the first time in the 35 years I've lived here they have a rat infestation now and the rats are getting into people's homes all around the encampment I have killed two rats already myself and they treat these people like they are less than human we are in the year 2023 it's like we are going backwards not forwards we need better human rights that's for sure better mental health treatment and to treat each other as equals! Good luck going back to school don't let anybody stop you or give you any doubts about yourself and remember it's not your fault you didn't ask for PTSD I didn't do anything wrong so go on and live your life
@@freebee8221 do you also demand that fat people get doctor’s notes confirming that it’s okay for them to be fat? Since when do adults need a doctor’s permission to live their lives?
Can't rats be trained ? I've heard they make very good pets. Please find a different way than killing them. They just want to live, like everyone else. There are electronics that emit a noise that keep them away. There are trap and release cages that can be bought or borrowed from different organizations. Please have some compassion for other mammals. We're really very similar.
Yes ofcourse you can have your freedom bud why people want her taken off of social media. Is the majority of her subscribers are very young girls who want to look like her and she’s very pro Ana and she does fetish videos for perverted men!
@trishdishdoodle I'm a former heroin addict who got herself clean. No legal system. No children. Nothing held above my head. Other than the fact that I was at my bottom & just couldn't do it anymore. I do appreciate what you're saying though. Sometimes an arrest is a life saving blessing in disguise. But it's possible to do it for yourself. I'll have 5 years clean in April 2024.
The opposite of Eugenia is someone like Amberlynn Reid. Either way, it's disordered eating. I have disordered eating. I don't believe Jaclyn Glenn had bad intentions or did anything wrong. Jaclyn sought out help from a licensed therapist, Katie Morton. Jaclyn followed Katie's steps given to her for the situation. Then Katie had the nerve to talk to Eugenia like she didn't have a hand in creating the 5150 plan. Katie even put down her own plan to "help" Eugenia in Shane's video right after Eugenia got out of the 5150! I liked Katie until that moment. And exactly like you said, everyone was telling Eugenia she looked great. I kept my damn mouth shut bc idk what to say. I'm guessing you didn't know all the details of what happened when Shane did his video on Eugenia and everything that followed right after. Jaclyn only responded to all the hate bc of Shane's video and Katie's problem with being 2 faced. I'm just saying, Jaclyn is not blame here imo. Jaclyn thought she was helping a friend with the assistance of a "certified therapist"
You actually kinda changed my mind here a bit.. I just thought it shouldn’t be cool to share someone actively participating in self harm.. but you’re right. Her rights are important and it’s a slippery slope.
Lol by this argument...to protect peoples "rights" they should be allowed to shoot heroin, cut themselves, commit suicide....I mean....it's an illness right? This video is the most RIDICULOUS THING I have ever....and I mean EVER heard in my life. She is not "SKINNY". She is DYING. The fact that a woman who says she is an ADULT and a lawyer even SAID THESE THINGS is BEYOND embarrassing.
I find that so interesting. Jackass has been allowing people to harm themselves, and it be cool. Why is she different? I know more people have copied Jackass stunts or tried their own wanting to be like them than becoming a walking skeleton like this lady. People love to watch people harm themselves, if it is the way they approve of. What about morbidly obese people? They are harming themselves, so why is that a positive movement but this lady should be banned from making her own videos on her own channel?
2:56 isn’t that kind of ironic though? You don’t want to show her photos because you could get flagged or whatever.. but she’s flaunting her ghastly body alllll over the internet with no worries? … and it’s not speculation. Her video with Shane Dawson, she said the words she has an ED. She needs to be deplatformed. For the better of herself. She needs to get off the internet and get help. The internet is feeding her illness
i just find it concerning she doesn’t want help and her home life seems abusive. her mom keeps bells on doors and eugenia isn’t allowed anywhere without her mom
@@emryborge7027regardless of what it was it is there to alert her mother that the door was opened. Her mom came with a quickness and she wasn't allowed to go outside.
Maybe not de-platformed but she shouldnt be monetizing off of her ED. She is no longer a content creator. She puts out no content. She runs to a new platform after her grift is up on the last one. She used to do try-on hauls, shoe hauls, makeup tutorials and cosplay. Now since she started Tiktok she sits there on live, feeds into the negativity instead of the positive comments, and literally does nothing. So she is no longer a "content creator". She makes money purely off of her ED and thats not anything ANY person should strive to make money off of.
I think she can be very damaging to young people struggling with body dysmorphia and EDs who might look up to her. You have to have a certain amount of responsibly as an influencer or content creator with young and impressionable fanbase. Im worried about the potential harm caused to vulnerable viewers.
@@lilachatsno, i see it as fair. do it 😂 do us all a favor. the thing is tho that youtube can only go after those who admit theyve had a disorder in the past because thats probable cause to say their food related content or body checking content is tied to it and needs to be shut down.
@@lilachatshow is that a terrible idea? we lose F list influencers and celebrities off the internet? we stop promoting horrible idols and bad habits? youtube stops making so much money off unethical practices?😂
@@tabsg0015 if you find this triggering, soemthing you can simply X out of, you are a very weak, privileged and entitled human being who would be shook to your core if you ever traveled to a third world country.
Yes to say we have no say in it is crazy. Both her and Bj need to remember you can’t have a platform without fans. Don’t lose your fans dying on the hill of a harmful person.
THANK YOU!! I lost 65lbs due to cancer and cancer treatments, and people kept telling me how good I looked. Like, b*tch, I’m literally dying. This is not healthy. Don’t comment on people’s weight. Ever. Good or bad. It’s none of your business, and you have no idea what’s actually going on.
GOD seriously! I grew up starved by my parents, and everyone used to applaud me for it. I feel you. :@ It's so uncomfortable and yet so normalized, I hate seeing it for anybody.
I just said something similar the other day.. before I had a baby everyone would tell me to “eat a burger” or something… after I had baby and doctor tells me he’s concerned about my weight, I get the “you look soooo good after a baby” … ok I’m very unhealthy right now but thaaaaanks?
I agree 100 percent! Over 20 years ago I was struggling with a health issue and went from 123 pounds down to 105. EVERYONE felt like they had the right to comment. One woman even had the gall to ask me if I was going to the bathroom to make myself throw-up. (I wasn't!!) People just need to shut up on the weight of others -- it accomplishes nothing, other than making them feel bad.
lets normalize not to comment on ppl's bodies, esp on weight, it's frustrating, my friend lost weight too and everyone was like omg u lost a lot of weight, it's not a compliment it's like telling the pers u were too fat before now i respect u cos u hv a better weight. another one, was dying wit cancer and she was posting on facebook and ppl had the gall to tell her: omg u gained so much weight. bruh the girl was dying!!!!!!!!!!!
also the assumption that ppl will think u wanna lose weight cos u gained some. when i gained weight i was told js diet and gym, and i didnt even open my mouth abt how i felt but everyone pointed it out, everyone, and assumed i was sad abt it.
I think Jaclyn Glen had good intentions but it backfired because of the way it was handled but also because EC doesn’t want to be helped. It’s unfortunate and it set back EC on any chance of healing in the future. She will never get help again.
Would you think your friend had good intentions if after you were 5150'd, they went on UA-cam and told the world about it? A loving friend who genuinely cared would NEVER be so selfish.
The issue isn't just her illness or what she looks like, the issue is that she won't admit she has a problem. She claims she's perfectly fine and healthy and she just naturally looks that way, meaning young girls will think they can look like her **and still be healthy**. THAT is the problem. That people will think they can be just like her with no damage to their bodies. If someone wants to be like her, whether or not they had issues before seeing her (which I really don't think is automatically true as children are very impressionable and tend to admire and try to emulate anyone getting a lot of attention and fame. We don't look at her and want to be her because we're grown ass adults and know regardless of what she says that she's not healthy), she can still easily be the trigger for them acting on those issues. Refusing to acknowledge that is irresponsible. At the very least she should be age restricted.
The problem is I have never followed her for a reason and suddenly UA-cam pushes her on the public via shorts. I don’t give a fk about her life, but it’s gross the algorithm pushes this on me.
Mom is a PIMP and ALL *human trafficking* signs . chaturbate girls stream for hours w\o eating as pimps force them . Eugenia asks permission for everything like going outside ,prob eating too .Deb put her in modeling as a teen (human trafficking industry )
Thank you. The girl who made this video had a really stupid take on this issue. She is very clueless as to how eating disorders start and how they work.
@@la6136 I am not educated on the issue. I find her content to be frightening. I find it to be strange that the UA-cam Algorithm is promoting her content in the “short” section. It is a very unique target audience that she caters to. I was looking up “Barbie•” movie and a day later her creepy short wearing pink with the barbie song was on my feed. I do not follow her and now she has consistently popped up in “shorts”.
While I agree with most of what you are saying, you do realize that disabled bodies ARE HEAVILY CENSORED and restricted in general on social media, right? I’m physically disabled and can tell you that even medical devices can be flagged on multiple platforms and accounts are often deleted just for posting pictures of disabled bodies. Even just text about disability can get you flagged and banned. This isn’t meant to be a pro or con for her having a platform, I’m pointing out that this is an issue in general and I do agree with the creators saying it’s odd that she isn’t being taken down when someone showing off their new port or colostomy bag covers can get their account suspended. It’s weird that she seems to come up in everyone’s feed while other disabled creators have to file appeals over every single thing they post. I do agree that she is someone struggling with an illness. As someone who is disabled, I look to social media for my representation and I do not support taking someone’s platform away because they are struggling with an illness. Just find it really suspicious how high she is in the algorithm when often disabled people are banned because their appearance is too ‘disturbing’.
@@emryborge7027 I had no idea who she was until I started seeing reels of her while scrolling. That’s when I found out who she was. I definitely wasn’t looking her up and her videos/reels were being suggested to me.
Everything I search for FOOD recipes on UA-cam a Eugenia video pops up in the feed even though I've never watched her. UA-cam recommends this to people because it's in UA-cams favor to have people BEGGING them for more censorship. That's why this is such a big scandal; UA-cam WANTS it to be and is pushing her in the algos.
See this I can understand and agree w people’s concern and I have my own gripes w the algo. I don’t think it should be prioritized over other types of content for sure.
yes, I also think this is about making people beg for censorship. Same trick over and over... Create a problem - wait for the reaction - offer a solution (which only benefits the rulers, not the people)
@ThatSurpriseWitness it's upsetting to people just to see her. That's why they push her content. Theyre using a vulnerable person to get what they want, desire for more censorship. I've been complaining for months that she pops up when I'm searching food. I'm sure it's done on purpose.
This is a tricky situation. I have watched some of Eugenia’s videos and I have seen her multiple times respond to comments saying “I eat, just like you guys” “there’s nothing wrong with me” “I am a normal weight”, etc. This is a woman who appears to be at deaths door from starvation. I have read comments on her videos, and there are hundreds of people complimenting her, telling her she’s beautiful and BELIEVE IT OR NOT, there ARE people saying they want to look like her. I do think it is harmful for the impressionable children (who are her target audience) to see a human skeleton claim to be a perfectly normal weight. After she appeared in shane dawson’s series admitting she was anor3xic. I don’t think she should be forced to do anything against her will. It is a very sad situation, and I don’t think there’s anything anyone can do to help her. I think youtube and twitch should at least make her content age-restricted so kids can’t see it. As someone who has also struggled with eating d/sorders, I know it’s not good for anyone for Eugenia to have millions of people seeing her content every day and commenting on how beautiful she is. But she does have that right to post it. It’s complicated.
I fell asleep crying last night just thinking about all of this and after watching a few of the EC videos and reading comments from young girls cheering her on.. .As for the age restriction (which would be ideal, but its rarely enforced by the ones who claim to do it, imo) And Everyone says 'parent your kids', and if your kid gets sucked into this..'oh well, that person must've been a sh*tty parent'. Okay, yes..maybe they are/were a bad parent. But what about all of the children without parents? What about the ones who's parents have passed away, or who's parents are single parents or they are completely exhausted from working 2-3 jobs just to stay afloat and buy groceries, or the parents that are addicted to their devices and just shew their kids away when they ask for dinner. Or the alcoholic parents? At what point are 'we' as a compassionate society responsible to speak out and protect those children that don't have a parent to do it..for whatever reason. My mind spins! The youth was already damaged after the lock downs and we've never had statistics this high for depression/anxiety in children/teens, it was incredibly damaging to their social/mental/emotional development, many parents could barely get their kids to the online classes on time (I have a lot of friends who teach, I heard first hand) so how are these parents going to monitor everything else? Its just so sad what is happening and we are sliding down a slope of becoming a very self-centered culture, living in our little bubbles and not really thinking about any problems that don't effect us directly/personally., I do support her freedoms and I do not want to be a hypocrite with her just because it hits me in a personal way, but the big picture, it has tentacles that are very sad and scary.
I mean, nobody bats an eyelash about the MULTIPLE mukbang/binge eating videos where people are *actually* promoting obesity and over-eating. That what kills me about people hating on Eugenia because she's existing. She has never promoted ana, she has never encouraged anyone to not eat/follow her diet/etc..., she does not post eating / "intuitive" eating. Does she need help? Absolutely. But feeding her mental illness with negativity and "confirmation" is not helping.
Thank you for being the only reasonable comment I've seen here so far. I see where she's coming from in this video and why she might have the opinion she does, but it seems like she's missing a lot of context and history about the situation.
And she also feeds the conversation by reading the comments about her appearance, eating habits. She could turn off comments or just talk about other topics other than her clothes or make up. there is also the possibility that she does what she does because it's made her famous and rich. She has to keep on feeding the fire (for bette or worse)
I think part of that argument is that she gets validation from other ill people and it helps feed the illness, even from people telling her she’s too thin. I don’t think taking away her livelihood would be a good thing, but in some ways I could see where people are coming from with that argument
This argument can be applied to any "bad" thing - i.e. someone who drinks a lot should be deplatformed because it validates themselves and others who choose to drink. Someone choosing to not medicate depression and share their struggles / story should be deplatformed because it "encourages" & validates others to not take pharmaceuticals. Etc etc.
Can’t ban a body. Look at Daddy Long Neck - an extremely skinny man with a medical condition. If we de-platform Eugenia, we de-platform anyone who looks a certain way. YT would also have to ask people for their medical records which is A. Illegal and B. Would never happen. People need to understand the ramifications of what they want. It’s insane!
Also, the people saying she’s scary skinny actually validates her. However, it’s the cruel people who funk with her and say “you’re fat” cuz that’s what gets her to eat less if you can even imagine that.
@@ImAtYourMumsHouse if you watched BJ's whole video she addresses this. what minors watch online can and should be monitored and censored if need be by parents if they are decent parents.
@@elluminaxI am a mother and I’m very aware it’s my job to be involved and monitor what my children watch and partake in. It’s my job to set boundaries and keep communication lines always open. Make sure they know what I expect & I listen to their needs and thoughts. It ain’t difficult. No one else is responsible for my child than myself and their other parent.
You’re so right! If she does decide to get help & puts on weight any well intentioned comments about her putting on weight will have a huge negative effect on her mentally. I also didn’t know this until recently but when someone says the person looks “sick” it’s actually a huge compliment to those struggling with EDs. The YT channel Of Herbs and Altar really helped me understand more, she made a really informative video speaking on Eugenia & the psychology of EDs from the perspective of someone who struggled with one herself.
Yup. Saying she’s stick thin or a skeleton is a compliment. Saying she looks healthy is not. People have even sent her super chats saying she looks fat and her cheeks are chubby. She’s gotten much skinnier since. It’s scary how this entire thing has evolved.
Same situation with addiction. If you have an addiction of any kind "they" meaning whomever wants to, can take away the rights of the addict. It makes no sense. If your not harming anyone (but maybe yourself) who cares. Why do people pretend to care so much? It's a control tactic and it's getting out of control.
I usually don’t disagree with you on anything, but her friends were seriously worried for her life. She always says she’s fine, clearly she’s not. Being hospitalized for self harm, whether it’s ed or alcohol or drugs is different than simply mental health. 5150 isn’t only about mental illness. They don’t do it for not eating in a way your friends want you to eat. It’s actually not that easy to get help with friends and family who aren’t rich. She has rights and she was let out. Just like most interventionist attempts end up.
I think most are concerned that her health is the result of being a victim of her mom doing this to her and imprisoning her in her own home, as an adult as well. Of course she’s going to say she’s fine because she doesnt want to upset her mother. People are trying to save her from her living situation and adult rights. This is like an adult version of 8 passengers.
If her mom is holding her captive against her will, then that's illegal and the cops should've been called on her MOM, not her. I fail to see how deplatforming her or subjecting her to an involuntary psych hold is going to help with her with her family issues... You can't force someone to act how you want them to. It's unfortunate that she's living in a situation like that, but she's a grown adult.
@@KaileyB616 yes illegal but no one does anything cause they keep claiming everything is fine. It’s said that her mom does this because they make a lot of money from it. Deplatforming her will stop the/most of the money from coming in. Sending her to treatment gets her away from her alleged abuser and stops money from coming in and gives her an opportunity to get help, get better, etc. however her mom has made her so afraid of hers that no matter what anyone does she just says things are fine. You’re dammed if you do and dammed if you don’t.
I worry about her as a person. But as a mother to two beautiful little humans. If my children saw her videos and wanted to be that skinny, then the problem isn’t her. The problem is much deeper and that problem sits at home. Kids can be affected by the content they consume, but as parents we need to be open and educate them what is healthy. A person on social media is not responsible for how my child thinks or feels. But that is just my opinion. Thank you for doing this video. It’s nice to see someone airing this topic and approaching this way ❤
I agree with you. It would be wrong to have her removed over her appearance and/or her eating disorder. If they did that it would be discrimination and they'd have to take down any cancer channels or mental health channels.
If anything, isn’t hiding her from the public also preventing her from being visible of a cautionary tale for where an eating disorder can take you, assuming that is the essence of the complaint?
The difference here is that online creators who are visibly struggling with cancer or mental health problems don't typically deny it and just say "oh yeah I'm fine and everything." She makes it seem like you can be her size and still be healthy and energetic with no issues whatsoever.
@@livingmorganismI think her denying it is part of the complex mental health condition she has. Plenty of people are mentally unstable with platforms that don't get questioned
My thoughts exactly. No way she researched her content properly. You can tell she has zero clue the depths of disfunction, lies and poor inflience she jas had thru the years on many vulnerable kids..her struggle po*n and how her content is made for kids or pervs thus bringing the 2 together.
I have IBD - inflammatory bowel disease. My weight goes from super skinny when I’m really ill to clinically obese within 6 months when the medication has kicked in then is too much, then it takes over a year of working out to get back to my regular weight. Even longer to lose the moon face side effect! I’m doing great at the moment, but I have seen all the judgement people give and receive at all points on the scale. Stop judging people for their body shape, it’s never going to help them! Support people without threatening them with removing their rights. I never heard of this person before and already I feel sad for what she’s gone through. Great video BJ!
I don’t think people want to take her down because of imagining. It’s because people believe she’s “self harming” to remain relevant online. That’s just my opinion and comments I’ve seen.
I am so glad you're pointing out the slippery slope that this will create if she is removed from UA-cam. We cannot just pick and choose what we personally want to see online. It is our responsibility to allow things into our lives and avoid the things we don't want. We have the capacity to turn things off or turn something else on. We have the means to set up our children's phones to let them engage and avoid what we as parents see fit. I've done this with my boy's phone so, I know it's possible. I personally don't want to give corporations my rights to free speech. They already restrict it as is. Say they do start restricting things of this nature, but find it's too difficult, and enlist the help of the government? Do you really want the government being able to do that? It can open so many unwanted doors that we won't be able to shut. Say this is some eating disorder with her as well. I've battled ana myself, and still do, even though I'm in much better health today. From my experience, no one could force me to get help for this, although my family tried drastic routes to do so. I only got "better" when I wanted to do and was in the mental position to tackle this beast. It is similar to addiction, where you seem to see much better results when the person who suffers seeks the help, because both of these illnesses you have to truly want to tackle before any treatment works because they're so damn hard to get a handle on. We have to stop punishing people with illnesses we don't understand. They have the same rights as anybody, and them "looking" or acting different should never be a means to take those rights away! What if her channel is how she copes? Some sort of therapy for her? Would we take other forms of therapeutic things away from anyone else? The way people treat her is inhumane, and it needs to stop. They don't to help her. They just want her out of sight and out of mind just like people do with other people who have mental or physical disorders, mental illness, handicaps, etc.
I disagree & agree. No, absolutely no one should be bullying her, threatening her, etc., & the channels that dedicate their lives to talking crap about her are gross & they should be reprimanded for bullying on a private platform. That said, Eugenia Cooney is also using a private platform to harm others. Do I think she is intentionally trying to harm others? No. Do I think she’s aware of the viewers she brings in & that those viewers are impressionable & want to be her? Yes. & While we can constantly debate where the problem started, it’s honestly irrelevant because Eugenia & UA-cam both know that her content only further harms her & her viewers. We can complain about the guardians not monitoring their kids’ online activity but 1) that’s just not possible 24/7 for every guardian and 2) kids are sneaky as hell & they will find a way to consume what drives them. Lastly, “stealing someone’s voice” is not the same thing as putting an end to harmful language/actions. If we don’t believe that anyone online should be “silenced” or “removed” because it’s “stealing their voice,” then what happens when people decide that it’s okay to spread hate speech, threats of violence, racist rhetoric, and so on. As much as you can say, “where’s the line, what if we say cancer patients aren’t allowed on here?” we can also say “where’s the line, what if we allow hate speech so we don’t silence anyone?” At the end of the day, UA-cam & Twitch are private companies & they get to decide what’s allowed on their platform & therefore, they are not taking away anyone’s freedoms by removing someone, but they are indirectly endorsing creators they allow on their platforms & when those creators make content they’re aware harmful & continue to do so because it makes them money, the billions of people who view those creators can & do get harmed. *Lastly, the situation with Eugenia’s ex friends is more in depth than you shared. I know that you made the disclaimer than you haven’t researched everything but is far more nuanced than you shared & when your best friend is on the verge of dying & it’s due to something that they can get help for but they don’t, you’ll do what you can to try & help them. We can, again, argue the morality of 5150s, but making that decision is *incredibly* difficult one & I have both had it done to me & then, years later, had to do it to someone, so yeah, I understand it from both sides. Her ex friends didn’t make that decision lightly & they weren’t trying to harm her. I absolutely adore you & your content, so I mean absolutely no disrespect towards you or this video & I apologize if I come off that way. I just think this situation & situations like it are more nuanced than we think & since every “similar” situation involves different people, with different backgrounds, different friends & family, and different health conditions, we can’t just assume that they’re all bad or all good. Many people’s lives have been saved due to 5150s, due to removing the thing that was encouraging their deterioration (I.e. being paid to show off body checks), and so on, just as people have lost their lives to those same things. So, I can’t find myself to be a hard supporter of either side, tbh, & I think that’s where a lot of people are at as well.
You’re onto something, BJ. I’m about your age. When her 5150 was covered across tea channels, i wonder about the lasting impact on younger viewers/young adults… An increased acceptance of institutionalizing adults in non-suicidal “distress”? Sure hope not - i’ve had my own moments & would fear that!
When I say this exact thing, people accused me of wanting her to not be alive. It's frustrating knowing that people are comfortable with their own rights and others rights being taken away. It's like they don't know what it means when they are saying things.
Something crazy I noticed when I searched Eugenia cooney on UA-cam is the adds for “weight loss” placed between every few videos. Conveniently placed there BY UA-cam. Am I crazy or is that pretty fucked up???
Yep! Ever since I watched this video the ‘machine’ is pushing Eugenia and weight loss Ozempic content to me. I even left a comment about this being triggering for me and I’ve been hospitalized for A. I’m a size 2! Love you too, algo! You ain’t crazy!
Eye opening. This video has provoked a bit of self reflection. I’ve always thought of Eugenia as one of the most darling & sweet girls to exist, but also thought it wasn’t “appropriate” or “safe” for her to be given a large platform. Before this vid got even half way through I could clearly see why what I thought was wrong. So many great examples of hypocrisy. Always a blessing to gain new perspective, learn & grow.
She shouldn't be deplatformed, she's never promoted EDs or given any ED tips or anything like that. Not everyone who is sick with a disorder should be deplatformed. I do think her friends had good intentions 5150ing her. I don't think 5150s work because the person has to want help, they can't be forced. But saying people could get 5150ed for eating processed food is beyond ridiculous, come on now. It's for people who are in extreme immediate danger, not for people who will eventually probably get cancer or other health issues from a poor diet.
I haven only heard ONE person state publicly that the 5150 was good for them - Steve-o the failed clown. Everyone else has said it did more harm than good
The only time I find a 5150 can be useful is if someone is having a psychotic break. In the case of coping mechanisms, like drug addiction or ED and that usually result from trauma, a 5150 is another traumatic event and makes the individual suffer even more. It’s involuntary and inhumane.
@@JessicaRivyyou make a good point about how we think of people with "unhealthy" coping mechanisms. Creating more trauma will only lead to worsened issues for them. It feels like no one considers this... 😢
It’s such a tough situation. She seems like such a sweet person. Eating issues are tough. It’s like an addiction. You did change my mind about her getting forced into treatment.
People keep focusing on her channel and giving her attention - regardless of good, bad, concerning, etc. That's what drives her, the attention and "fame". She's got issues, but people can't make her seek help.
I’m not 100% sure on this, but I think the internet is how Eugenia makes a living… to take that away from her because she has AN ILLNESS is disgusting! Just like you said, if a little girl or little boy see her and think “I wanna look just like her!” then there’s already been an issue bubbling under the surface. Yes, it’s heartbreaking to see Eugenia like that, but to take away her voice as well as her source of income is bullsh*t. And I can’t speak for Eugenia, but if it were me, taking that away would just cause me to spiral downward. Taking her voice away isn’t helping ANYONE, and instead would be doing way more harm than good. Period.
No. She’s a grown woman. She doesn’t have to divulge or admit any of her MEDICAL information to appease you. What if you have a mental disorder that make you look different? Would you want to be forced to say it to thousands of strangers? No. Please think about what you’re saying before you say it. You’re an entitled brat.
you’re so right. even as someone who suffered seriously with an eating disorder, i judged her, and now i think that may just have been my being triggered by the content instead of considering her mental state over years
I think youre a very compassionate person but i do think the situation is beyond "speculation". And i also believe its harmful for some viewers to see her like this. Do i want her deplatformed? No. Demonetized, yes. Only because i think that will be the only thing that will make her reevaluate her position. If you went deeper into the rabbit hole youd realize most of her monetization comes from fetishizers. And she has also allowed predators to moderate her servers. She is very hypocritical in her words vs her actions. But most of all her family, who she funds and who she has around her all the time, are the ones who need help. They are doing nothing thats in the favor of her well being and they should be the first ones to do so. They know whats going on but they do nothing to help her,and thats the saddest part for me.
It's so beyond refreshing to be able to come here and listen to someone speak about things with logic and common sense. I cant express enough how much i appreciate you and your channel. It genuinely confuses me that anyone would have a different opinion than this, and even more confusing & honestly alarming that so many people do.
Jaclyn exposed mom for being controlling . Mom took her out of the 5150 early and moved to Connecticut (state w worst involuntary comittment grading F ) . The more ppl talk about it , more likely bigger ppl will step in
She absolutely should not be deplatformed. I agree. However friends that got her 5150’d tried to save her life BJ. We are watching EC kill herself in slow motion. Not fair to say the friends who got her 5150’d didn’t have her best interest in mind.
they didn't. 5150s are notoriously traumatizing. if they had her best interest in mind, they would have researched what they actually were doing. People have talked about how 5150s hurt more than help for YEARS.
i think we also need to remember that the internet is her *job*. she may not even *want* to be on the internet anymore, i certainly wouldn't want to be with all the shit she gets tossed at her, but it's her income now. she can't even go online to do her job and play pokemon in a twitch stream without horrendous amounts of abuse. in any other workplace those abusive people would be banned.
This is why I feel her mom forces it on her cause it makes them so much money. Like what else does she ever talk about beside replying to the same comments for 8+hrs a day, every day. She’s a prisoner in her own home by her mom who she is terrified of… who won’t let her go outside to look at the bloody moon! I would suspect this to not be a natural illness but one that was pushed on her by her controlling mother who also doesn’t want her to get help. She doesn’t seem to have adult rights in her own home.
I disagree. If she was on the internet talking about her "illness" and trying to get help, it would be fine. She is not. She constantly shows her body denying she has any issue, saying she's just naturally thin. Most peoples only reason to watch her channel is to see if she's still alive. Her mom or any of the people close to her seem to not be trying to help her. Getting her off the internet is the way to save her. Her filming herself is part of her illness. It's a difficult situation, but I think it's best to remove her channel.
I'm a round-ish kind of woman, my best friend is naturally thin.... We work out together so she can gain muscle weight and I try to loose weight.... after she had her surprise miracle baby she had about 40lbs on her... She LOVED HER BODY..... She eventually lost the baby weight. Her hubby is a chef, we EAT... We all have issues with our bodies, thin or round.... Let her be... If you don't like EC DON'T WATCH... WE HAVE CHOICES, JUST BECAUSE WE DON'T LIKE SOMEONE'S CHOICE, DOESN'T MEAN THEY'RE ENTITLED TO IT....
I’m of two minds on almost all things as well. I think the problem with cancer argument and this is that you can’t get cancer by romanticizing it on the internet to my knowledge. That doesn’t mean I believe in deplatforming her (it also seems impossible and doesn’t work) but I am open to considering limiting comments or something so the pro ana community doesn’t congregate there, but I agree that it’s a slippery slope, like most things. I have come to terms over time with supporting the add*cts in my life to make sure they have autonomy and just removing myself. I am trying to apply the same logic here but I am curious-would you support someone online actively using? People may be predisposed but there certainly could be some rhetoric around it that influences people to tip over the edge (and food is one of the very few things children have control over). The converse of course is that getting communities together often supports recovery so idk. It’s a very tough situation. I think we need to think outside the box.
I would say thousands, if not millions, of people have gotten skin cancer from laying in tanning beds - should we deplatform Trisha Pastas and all the body builders who promote that standard?
@@ThatSurpriseWitness I just saw this reply. Thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts! Your content has definitely opened my mind a lot and brings up many things I haven’t considered or wouldn’t have viewed the way you do. I think a lot of positive change has come from it and will continue to. Your point is well taken, I’m not sure if that was reflected in the tone of my prior comment. I just have trouble thinking there has to be something that can make a positive impact but it may not be something I’ve ever thought of or has ever been done-just not sure what that is or if that’s just a mindset or comes from the bad feeling some people have when standing by and not doing anything.
It's obvious that she's very ill, but that's not a reason to deplatform anyone. The reality is that there's not necessarily anything anyone can do to help her, if she doesn't want help.
Ok, but using that same logic, if someone is suicidal you don't leave them in the same environment that the got sick. Whatever the cause, she is sick. She is promoting an unhealthy lifestyle. This is YT that bans educational channels, cannabis and much less. How many posts does she have where she's addressing her own issues and documenting the process? Her viewers share the blame for whatever her fate. Someone has the be the responsible adult in this situation or nothing changes which is a harm to all parties involved.
@@Shay416 I've never heard of anyone getting better from forced hospitalization and being drgd against their will. It leaves people feeling betrayed and paranoid that it could happen again. How's taking away someone's source of income and social life going to help them?
@@Shay416I totally agree, there are teens on this platform. And she’s not “skinny” she’s skeletal. If BJ watched any of her most recent content she is skin and bones and it’s not just skinny. People have watched her for ages do this to herself and admit she has a problem. But this isn’t the case of “skinny shaming” it’s witnessing someone self harm.
I think you have completely and utterly missed the point of this… it’s nothing about her not eating the diet her friends want her to eat, go and have a look at her when she got put into hospital.. she’s at a huge risk, and there is evidence her mother is complicit in her eating habits due to her financial gain from her daughters platform. It sounds very much like you’re listening to Eugenia’s ED.
I understand what you’re saying. 1000% However, I think similar to Britney’s situation - we need to look into her mother. The person behind the camera who is seemingly watching this happen and not helping her. It’s giving human tr*ff*ck*ng. I don’t support deplatforming her because I hate her, or because of how she looks. I think it’s the only way in which (maybe) we save her life. If she passes- it will be because this is her (and her MOTHERS’) pay cheque.
but that's not a call for UA-cam or any of us to make or assess. that would be for a mental health professional or law enforcement to assess whether she's being abused
I've been getting eviscerated in Rich's comments for this same opinion... It's really hard for me to understand why everyone is so obsessed with controlling Eugenia (or anyone else).
I know this is an old-ish video but I just wanted to give my two cents. She definitely has a disorder, HOWEVER, “deplatforming” her, might not only *not* serve the purpose a lot of people think it will, but most likely will only make her spiral into her disorder even more! A lot of what seems to be holding her up IS the ability to make content, if she has that taken away, imagine how much more fragile her mental health is going to be! I have no idea what the solution would be as she seems really really deep into her mental problems and by the looks of it (allegedly) enabled by her own mother, however I would never call the police on her, ask for a wellness check, try to take her off of youtube or any other crazy thing people are doing/recommending. All I can do is pray for her and hope she gets better!
The internet is today's public square. Imagine booting someone from the public square because they have a health issue. It is no different than walking in the mall and shouting that some random person needs to leave. People focus on Eugenia and create an angry mob because it gives them warped validation. It's awful that her supposed friends were the loudest in the mob. She must have felt so betrayed.
At least in my country, cops boot drunks and druggies from the public sqare all the time..without them bothering or hurting anyone but themselves. (and this is something I disagree with..btw. Everyone should be allowed in public spaces )
Imagine going to a public square, pulling out a razor blade and slicing open your wrists. I mean it's an illness so it's fine. It's her right to be SICK right? Imagine going to a public square and whipping out a heroin needle....smack smack smak...get that vein.....addiction is an illness . NOW......imagine....just IMAGINE...living in a world where THAT GARBAGE IS OK!!!???? *GET A GRIP*
@@LittleMissStamper You can try justifying bullying people with health issues any way you wish. That doesn't make your bullying any less offensive. You must seriously lack reasoning skills if you think a very thin person merely existing in a public sphere is equivalent to someone shooting up or slitting their wrists in public. You seem to have a lot of angst towards this lady merely because she has a health issue. That's weird to me. If you see a person in a mall with a health issue and you are offended or triggered, are you going to run up to them and whine about how much they are hurting you too?
@@ImAtYourMumsHouse I wouldn't be surprised if you UA-cam warriors going after this lady aren't exaggerating this too. I don't know much about her. But, one thing is for certain. I trust BJ's opinion that she appears to be a very sweet person far more than other random people on the internet like you in the angry mob.
also the fact that ppl want to tk away her only income is beneficial how? also influencers arent babysitters, ppl should learn how to tk care of their kids.
Yes 👏 I actually in other people’s videos said I was worried about the children watching saying “I want to look just like you” to EC was dangerous because it’s been talked about so much, but listening to BJ really opened my eyes and got me thinking it’s not her responsibility to take care of others children and like BJ there’s probably already something going on with those people in the 1st place. So I’m glad BJ covered this because it just made sense. 💗💕🤗
I don’t watch her or follow this case other than what comes up randomly on my feed. So I haven’t been down the rabbit hole to completely understand it, but from what I’ve gathered, it’s shocking how vehemently people hate this woman and want her “cancelled.” And fail to see where this type thinking leads. And how hypocritical. Where does it end? There may be more to it I’m not aware of as I’m not super familiar. But I appreciate you covering this with a reasonable logical perspective. I agree with everything you said.
I actually agree with your points here. I still stand by and will always stand by the fact that her content needs to be age restricted. That way, it limits kids access, other than that, let the woman live her life.
If Eugenia starts fighting her disorder on her channel, i Will start following her.. She is sweet and I just wont watch her shrink anymore.. Hope she gets well❤
Thanks for this video, BJ. 💜 My body has been out of wack the last year from trying to find the right medications. I lost my appetite and had to force myself to eat (still kind of do) and I lost the 50 pounds I gained from being pregnant 2.5 years ago. I barely have the strength to workout some days from having no energy, so my weight loss was NOT healthy. I get compliments on my weight loss all the time and have to explain to them that the way I lost weight isn't a good thing. So many people have ideal body types in mind and assume those body types are "healthy." Many people who are underweight or overweight are probably more healthy than I am, but people just go off of appearances. Getting compliments on my body now makes me upset because I felt a lot healthier (physically) BEFORE I lost the weight.
Well, tbh skinny people are a normal weight limit. A lot of people are overweight but it's become normal. With fast food chains and the stuff they put in our foods. I'm not talking Eugenia skinny but skinny. So that's understandable why people say that. If you go look at old movies of people back then that's a healthy weight to be at. Nowadays everyone has weight so it seems normal.
I agree that she shouldn’t be deplatformed because people do have a right to freedom of speech - it’s our 2nd amendment. However, that also means people are allowed to speak freely on what they see when content creators post for the public. This could be looked at from different sides and speaking from personal experience, I am SO glad that my family interfered because I would rather be alive and healthy today than 6ft under. When I was in that state of mind, I thought I was fine. I thought I was healthy. I’m glad I got the push I got so that I could see what I was doing to my self. But that was MY choice to get healthy. Nobody could force, all they could do was help be a guide. Yes, Eugenia’s friends initiated the process of a 5150 - but Eugenia CHOSE to get help after the 5150 was complete. People fall back into old patterns and an ED is literally like a drug addiction. You relapse. The interview with Rich was very biased and only shows Eugenia’s mindset now. When it comes down to it, she has a choice. She is choosing to stay in the mindset she is and there’s nothing anybody can do about it. We’re only consuming what she’s showing us when she’s recording and uploading. We do don’t know what’s going on behind the scenes. Whatever side of the coin we’re on, in the end we all have rights and we all have the right to freedom of speech.
i first learned about her from sloan a few years ago and i said it was so sad how everyone talks about eugenia but no one wants to talk with her. i was so proud to see him finally interview her. whatever is going on with her she doesn't deserve abuse. people who watch eugenia with issues will see how people bully her for existing in the public. people don't even want to help eugenia, they just want to control her and their idea of "help" is to abuse her and cut her off from the world and isolate her to the environment everyone says is making her sick. how does that make any sense, to be cut off from help? it's so weird watching the general internet "help" people by berating them instead of trying to find ways to compassionately reach someone.
You never cease to impress me. We all should be free to express ourselves as long as it doesn't hurt another person. You can silence people because you don't like them. Thank you for standing up for people. ❤
What I think some people fail to understand about A is that criticism is really a compliment to their ears. I don’t watch her but her recent short about putting a ring on it was just pushed to me after watching BJ, and I seriously wanted to cry. My heart aches for this lady.
@@SunShine333. girl… you are the power. We are the ones who give her engagement, not YT or Facebook. If you want her to disappear, it’s quite simple! Literally!
Love that you brought up that seeing Eugenia and wanting to look like her would be a pre-existing condition. Never thought of that before. Its not all on Eugenia. I hope she gets actual help though. Great video and glad you talked about it respectfully.
With the 5150 situation, Eugenia was given a mental evaluation prior to being put into rehab. Based on that evaluation it was determined that she wasn't mentally well. They didn't take her away immediately. I don't agree with her being deplatformed but I don't think it's wrong for people to be concerned for her especially since she has confessed to having an ED. Her home situation definitely doesn't help her out either since she's extremely isolated and her mother controls everything she gets to do
Shes a full grown adult with rights to live however she wants even if it's killing her. If you are ok with her rights being taken then you better be ok with YOUR rights taken. People are so mean to this very ill women, the same people will watch a morbidly obese person eat a mountain of food in one sitting and call them beautiful.
Valid point, however, there are young kids that are extremely impressionable that watch her content. It’s dangerous to see someone profit from an illness. That’s exactly what she’s doing. It’s honestly terrifying.
@rachelnetti4769 that is the job of parents, not Eugenia. If you are letting people on the internet influence your children, YOU are the problem, not eugenia. Maybe fight to have impressionable children removed from yt. This is a slippery slope. Taking rights away from adults is dangerous and it's only a matter of time before someone comes for yours. Grow up and quit bullying sick people because it makes you uncomfortable. All you have to do is block her. Don't watch. It's our choice to watch. Please, grow tf up.
@@augustseven9243 that’s fair. For the record, YT is the only social media I use. My children don’t even know what social media is, and I intend to keep it that way. But my point is, people visit her content because she is ill. There’s really no other reason. I personally don’t believe it should be monetized, but she should be able to keep her channel. And I agree- I would never comment on an ill person’s body. Not my place.
@@augustseven9243UA-cam is a single website. Preventing her content from reaching kids on a single website isn't the kind of dramatic censorship y'all are making it out to be.
There's another YT creator: "Mom of 8 Kids" to whom the vultures of the internet are currently targeting. She recently lost her husband... and has mistakenly come to the internet in search of support... ugh.😔 She and her late husband, who was chronically ill, led a different, simple life. The masses online have, this week, called CAS here in Ontario to report her dirty house. The cruelty that we are forced to witness daily online... typically pointed towards the most vulnerable amidst us... is so discouraging... and scary tbh. Where has our humanity gone?? Please be kind to one another today online. The world needs not any more hate.
BJ I know you said you didn’t want to make this video but I am so glad you did. Everything you said was the exact same thing I been saying since I first saw Eugenia on the internet. This girl has been on the internet since 2011 and no body said anything about it then. I saw many horrible things on the internet. There was a video where teenagers actually stood and filmed a man drowning in a lake. They didn’t try to help him they didn’t call for help and stood and filmed it while they laughed and made jokes while the man was seriously losing his life. How come nobody hunted down those kids and 5150’d them because I truly believe they should have been locked up. People can have their opinions about Eugenia but when an opinion hurts someone and literally takes their rights away? What has happened to the world we live in?
Did you see that PA State Trooper that had his ex girlfriend locked up for 4 days by lying she was disturbed?! Terrifying!! That poor lady was so helpless to do anything for herself. Worse still? He’s married with a whole family and only dated this woman for 4 months!! He has been arrested. But, he needs PRISON! As a resident of this state I’m disgusted! Also, thoughts on the PDMP? I have seriously been considering contacting a Constitutional attorney to take that on. People have no idea it even exists or how it violates our Privacy and Rights! Once again, repeating myself, but stolen Rights thru emergency. “Think of the children!” They sold it under the opioid crisis. (People always ignore alcohol for some reason. Hmm, could it be manipulative and not politically expedient to attack a social norm?? Alcohol kills magnitudes more a year and costs us, as a society, magnitudes more than drugs.) They can never steal Rights that way, though. Would love you forever if you did a video on it just to inform people about it. They have no idea what it is or does. Or, who has access to it. Hospital workers, pharmacy workers, every doctors office, police, etc. The common citizens don’t, of course. And, once something is on it, even if you never even took it, it’s there forever! You can be red flagged from receiving proper medical care on it, too. It needs to GO! Costs taxpayers millions every year to maintain and the makers admit its ineffective at the very reason it was created to do!! It’s unacceptable. It’s why terminal cancer patients don’t receive proper pain management. People like myself. Stage 4 breast cancer, very aggressive type. I am on a drug currently thanks to Right to Try from Trump. People have no idea about that, either. Trump gave terminal patients the Right to try any medications or treatments we think could work. Anything!! Even trial medicine without being in the trial. This is my 2nd time using it. It’s sorta working but my markers are up again. I may not have much time left.
They're de-platforming people cause they have an eating disorder that makes them skinny. Lots of people think this is reasonable. Why, then, are there so many obese people on the internet? Is it okay to ban them when they're skinny, but not when they're fat?
I really respect how you handled this. As someone who had an ED in high school and most of college, I think you're correct - if someone admires that body type then the problems are preexisting.
I commented on others, not her, on one of her videos and made the point, “do yall think bullying her is going to help?” I got dog piled OML. I don’t agree with it. No one can change Eugenia’s life but her BUT it’s her business, her life. We don’t truly know anything but what she shows us. People need to get common sense out there.
But trust me all her content is about fashion and she is flashing her bones and purposely and smartly putting the camera in specific angles to show her bones
@@ThatSurpriseWitnessI don’t get how you can compare it to addiction and then don’t realize these same young girls you’re saying who already had a problem before seeing her well now they’re hyper fixated on her content like it’s a drug to them making them more sick but okay again like I said in another comment don’t remove her completely I don’t agree with taking her rights away but she should at the very least be age restricting her content she’s a grown ass woman parading around in scantily clad clothing for children in which she’s often flashed her chest crotch and butt to her mostly underage audience on live streams if you don’t see a problem with that then I guess you’re not as smart as I thought you were
I’ve always empathized w Eugenia. I think she was blindsided and I really believe that 5150 was very traumatic for her. Might’ve even made her condition worsen I even did a video a while back about this whole sitch and it still holds up. Yes I agree it is likely that she has an illness . I also clearly see how oblivious she is to the influence she could have on young women ( not to mention the pedo moderators she had to take down) That’s why it’s hard to agree on any solution. I don’t think she should be de-platformed but I do think it’s not a black and white issue, the thing is young girls ARE seeing her and they are vulnerable, It’s too complicated and too crazy for me to say she should be de-platformed but I think her influence is a big issue (one that she doesn’t seem to understand or acknowledge). It’s a lot different for someone who’s got “their legs bitten off by a shark.” I’ve seen this shit play out even the last few years and the cause and effect is real. She likes to play for the camera that she has no influence and her intentions are pure yadayada. I don’t body shame anyone but can we call something what it is? She’s not just “skinny”. Her posts echo holocaust victims. It’s more than disturbing but I don’t have a solution 🤷🏼♀️ Idk what the answer is BJ, but is anyone really trying to “throw her in prison”? Idk. For me this is a pick your battles situation and I would not attach my cart to that horse. If I had a young daughter I’d absolutely be more decisive in my opinion. Thank god I don’t have children. They would literally be banned from the internet in a freaking dungeon 😂 I just can’t anymore. Who is really trying to “lock her up”? It’s always been the same. She’s not “damned if she don’t.” She always comes the same. Very nice words from her. But her body should literally be a trigger warning.
Yes!!! The 5150 I believe worsened it as well! Super traumatic 😢 there is a lovely German woman (non English video sadly) who did an AMAZINGGG video basically describing what you did about that aspect (5150) A rant but all that to say, well said and I agree
My sister suffered from eating disorders my entire childhood. I am not speaking for everyone when i say this, but in my experience, pouring a limelight on the topic and singling someone out never helps. In my experience, all that action results in people feeling like they have no safe places in their life. If this is her only outlet, then taking that away, not only are you violating her rights, but you are taking away her safe place and outlet. I understand that it is heartbreaking and concerning to see her like this, but only her loved ones and professionals can aid her with her mental health and eating disorders. No matter how much the public might care, any action that is taken against her will only cause her more harm than good. Eugenias channels are her outlets. Her safe place. And yes, i believe we should protect children, but protecting children should first and foremost come from a parents good judgement as well as channel appropriate age restrictions. But no one should have the right to punish a person for having a disability and mental health disorders. I couldn't agree more with BJ. We should be showing eugenia love, support, and empathy. She is a human being. ♥️
Also Jefree Star moved out of california to a state where he couldn't be 51/50 or have a conservatorship placed on him without a jury. Also Also, we don't lock up overweight people for being unhealthy, and yet there are the same risks and dangers to your health. Food for thought.
I had an Ed, when I was sick of course would wanted to be like her, now I am healed I don’t even want to weight how I weight at my lowest also I don’t watch her because, that is what sane people do, see someone or something they don’t like don’t watch it it’s not like she is a political figure that needs fact checking
She admitted to having an eating disorder in the Shane Dawson documentary so it's not really speculation.
I have bipolar, depression, anxiety and binge eating disorder which I talk about on my channel. Should I be removed?
Never said anything about anyone removing her. Just pointing out that it isn't speculation that she has an ED. @@lilachats
@@lilachatsno. I don’t think she should be deplatformed at all. I do believe she won’t survive if she doesn’t get help soon though. Her friends getting her that 5150 weren’t being the bad guys either. They actually probably bought her a few more years.
@@lilachatseugenia’s issue is that she outright denies there’s an issue and is enabled by her mother. Which will eventually be manslaughter. Not just because she has an ED.
@@phoebesmith8154 go away, control freak. I will never agree with someone who makes assumptions on someone they DONT KNOW and feel entitled to their information. Leave the grown woman alone.
The thing is, its just like a drug addict. If she doesnt want to get better she wont no matter what they do. I understand wanting to help her but all theyre doing is making her distrust her friends and further isolating herself. Teach your kids to have a healthy self image and then no matter what body type they see they wont be influenced by it. All of this negative attention is just making the situation worse.
100% I was in a similar position and it does for sure make it worse. I can attest to that. I speak from experience. Although not with the same illness
Also with an ED she’d probably view people “concerned” about her thinness killing her as a win. It’s validation her goals have been met
@@masseiy yeah that's a good possibility. Either way this is the solution. An intervention isn't going to work in this case ( ad we've seen). She's going to have to want to do it herself.
10000% as a former opiate addict, forcing help makes you rebel and do the opposite. It pushes you waaaaay deeper into your addiction.
She speaks a lot with her fanbase of mostly children . Shes constantly interacting with them and is very “child like” . Shes my age and id be a creep if i did exactly as her. if I completely ignore her skeletal figure its still creepy. Its what she puts on twitch thats weird af. She can do what she wants but its not just kids viewing her . Its her heavily involved in interacting and usually half naked part while sometimes doing things on live stream for those with a kink that bothers me. Just age restrictions are necessary. Im not falling for the innocent michael jackson little girl schtick she does because of her sickness . Its her thing but for adults only
Honestly I’ve been in a psych-ward twice by my own volition cause I didn’t think I could keep myself safe and the amount of rights violations or intentional disrespect/triggering behaviour directed to the involuntary patients by staff was ridiculous…
I don’t know if it’s incredibly naïve of me, but I have never thought about patients being treated differently, depending on how they entered the facility! That’s so messed up! Did you have a good experience?
That’s so cruel. I hope you are doing better now ❤
I was forced to go several times in my teens. It is exactly like prison. One time while they were signing me in they asked if I had any injuries and my mom told them I had a cut on my chest. The forced me to undress and be evaluated. I refused and they locked me in a tiny room with nothing but a metal bench until I complied.
@@valloriebarnes9800 hmmm I would say that it wasn’t really good but I definitely got treated with respect more consistently but as soon as I started getting emotional or frustrated I’d get threatened to be put on room restriction. There’s still a lot of mistreatment towards folks who present with stigmatized illnesses. But little to no compassion directed towards involuntary patients cause “they don’t want to get better” like yeah some of them don’t but that’s their choice and being there is making things worse
@@hannahh.8422 I’m so sorry you were forced to go, especially when it clearly was not a space that prioritized being a safe & supportive environment. It’s so unfortunate that the medical system thinks that folks with mental illness don’t have the capacity to advocate for themselves or deserve basic human rights. I’ve known a few folks who’s privacy was disgustingly violated. There was a girl in for ED, no history of other sh behaviour but if she wanted to shave her legs a nurse “had to be watching her”… she was a minor at the time.
Thank you for what you are doing, I am a 34 year old woman from Europe and because of you I have finally found my strength to fight back again. You've aspired me to save up to be able to go back to school and study to become a lawyer. For more than 10 years I have lived in a prison because of how society sees me as a patient of PTSD, as if the trauma's weren't enough to live with I have felt first-hand how it feels like not to matter in society because of a mental ilness. My own family locking me up in mental hospitals, doctors and psychiatrists who drugged me so bad I lost a baby, my freedom, my voice, my own body and mind. Thank you, you have no idea how much your channel is helping people. BJ investigates and That Surprise Witness TV have opened my eyes even more and I am ready to fight back to take back my own life and making the world aware of things happening which are far from okay. Taking people's freedom because they might have a mental ilness is more sick than the illness itself. Keep doing what you are doing please!
If eugenia wants people to stop being worried for her, then she should get a doctor to tell us that shes okay.
If that happens then the comments will stop i promise that.
Britney?
You go girl live your dream if you can do it go for it I know just like to feel like you don't matter just because you have a mental illness I live on disability which doesn't pay much I have had a lot of trouble in my youth it took me a little bit longer to grow up and make proper choices and things like that so I would often get into fights and do drugs and just make wrong choices nothing too bad but I realized I wasted a lot of my youth I realized we do matter every one of us the way the homeless people in my town are treated are just so sad I live in Canada so it is winter half the year and due to the recession people are living in a tent in Winter for the first time in the 35 years I've lived here they have a rat infestation now and the rats are getting into people's homes all around the encampment I have killed two rats already myself and they treat these people like they are less than human we are in the year 2023 it's like we are going backwards not forwards we need better human rights that's for sure better mental health treatment and to treat each other as equals! Good luck going back to school don't let anybody stop you or give you any doubts about yourself and remember it's not your fault you didn't ask for PTSD I didn't do anything wrong so go on and live your life
@@freebee8221 do you also demand that fat people get doctor’s notes confirming that it’s okay for them to be fat? Since when do adults need a doctor’s permission to live their lives?
Can't rats be trained ? I've heard they make very good pets. Please find a different way than killing them. They just want to live, like everyone else. There are electronics that emit a noise that keep them away. There are trap and release cages that can be bought or borrowed from different organizations.
Please have some compassion for other mammals. We're really very similar.
It's nice to see someone defend our basic rights to freedom and liberty rather than the constant 'control & confine' rhetoric.
@@ImAtYourMumsHousewho does that? Ped0s should honestly not have rights
Its scary how rare it is
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Yes ofcourse you can have your freedom bud why people want her taken off of social media. Is the majority of her subscribers are very young girls who want to look like her and she’s very pro Ana and she does fetish videos for perverted men!
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Eating disorders are no different than addiction. She won't "get better" until SHE wants to.
Say it again I don't think they heard you 😂but forreal
FACTS!
Until she wants to or dies. There are two paths.
@trishdishdoodle I'm a former heroin addict who got herself clean. No legal system. No children. Nothing held above my head. Other than the fact that I was at my bottom & just couldn't do it anymore. I do appreciate what you're saying though. Sometimes an arrest is a life saving blessing in disguise. But it's possible to do it for yourself. I'll have 5 years clean in April 2024.
@@CryinInDaaClub oh well. She’s a grown woman.
The opposite of Eugenia is someone like Amberlynn Reid. Either way, it's disordered eating. I have disordered eating. I don't believe Jaclyn Glenn had bad intentions or did anything wrong. Jaclyn sought out help from a licensed therapist, Katie Morton. Jaclyn followed Katie's steps given to her for the situation. Then Katie had the nerve to talk to Eugenia like she didn't have a hand in creating the 5150 plan. Katie even put down her own plan to "help" Eugenia in Shane's video right after Eugenia got out of the 5150! I liked Katie until that moment. And exactly like you said, everyone was telling Eugenia she looked great. I kept my damn mouth shut bc idk what to say. I'm guessing you didn't know all the details of what happened when Shane did his video on Eugenia and everything that followed right after. Jaclyn only responded to all the hate bc of Shane's video and Katie's problem with being 2 faced. I'm just saying, Jaclyn is not blame here imo. Jaclyn thought she was helping a friend with the assistance of a "certified therapist"
You actually kinda changed my mind here a bit.. I just thought it shouldn’t be cool to share someone actively participating in self harm.. but you’re right. Her rights are important and it’s a slippery slope.
Lol by this argument...to protect peoples "rights" they should be allowed to shoot heroin, cut themselves, commit suicide....I mean....it's an illness right? This video is the most RIDICULOUS THING I have ever....and I mean EVER heard in my life. She is not "SKINNY". She is DYING. The fact that a woman who says she is an ADULT and a lawyer even SAID THESE THINGS is BEYOND embarrassing.
@@LittleMissStamperyes people are allowed to do those things little miss stamper 🙄 it’s THEIR choice.
@@LittleMissStamperand if she wasn’t in the public eye no one would even know about her. Shut up.
She also changed my mind.
I find that so interesting. Jackass has been allowing people to harm themselves, and it be cool. Why is she different? I know more people have copied Jackass stunts or tried their own wanting to be like them than becoming a walking skeleton like this lady. People love to watch people harm themselves, if it is the way they approve of. What about morbidly obese people? They are harming themselves, so why is that a positive movement but this lady should be banned from making her own videos on her own channel?
2:56 isn’t that kind of ironic though? You don’t want to show her photos because you could get flagged or whatever.. but she’s flaunting her ghastly body alllll over the internet with no worries?
… and it’s not speculation. Her video with Shane Dawson, she said the words she has an ED. She needs to be deplatformed. For the better of herself. She needs to get off the internet and get help. The internet is feeding her illness
i just find it concerning she doesn’t want help and her home life seems abusive. her mom keeps bells on doors and eugenia isn’t allowed anywhere without her mom
I think it’s understandable to be concerned.
That’s prob why, with a possibly controlling mom its the only thing the young lady has control of.
@@aliciasalvato3261spot on
Those were keys, not bells😂
@@emryborge7027regardless of what it was it is there to alert her mother that the door was opened. Her mom came with a quickness and she wasn't allowed to go outside.
Maybe not de-platformed but she shouldnt be monetizing off of her ED. She is no longer a content creator. She puts out no content. She runs to a new platform after her grift is up on the last one. She used to do try-on hauls, shoe hauls, makeup tutorials and cosplay. Now since she started Tiktok she sits there on live, feeds into the negativity instead of the positive comments, and literally does nothing. So she is no longer a "content creator". She makes money purely off of her ED and thats not anything ANY person should strive to make money off of.
I think she can be very damaging to young people struggling with body dysmorphia and EDs who might look up to her. You have to have a certain amount of responsibly as an influencer or content creator with young and impressionable fanbase. Im worried about the potential harm caused to vulnerable viewers.
That’s life. If you deplatform her, you must do the same to binge eating muk bangers. You see how this is a terrible idea?
@@lilachatsno, i see it as fair. do it 😂 do us all a favor. the thing is tho that youtube can only go after those who admit theyve had a disorder in the past because thats probable cause to say their food related content or body checking content is tied to it and needs to be shut down.
@@lilachatshow is that a terrible idea? we lose F list influencers and celebrities off the internet? we stop promoting horrible idols and bad habits? youtube stops making so much money off unethical practices?😂
@@tabsg0015 if you find this triggering, soemthing you can simply X out of, you are a very weak, privileged and entitled human being who would be shook to your core if you ever traveled to a third world country.
Yes to say we have no say in it is crazy. Both her and Bj need to remember you can’t have a platform without fans. Don’t lose your fans dying on the hill of a harmful person.
THANK YOU!! I lost 65lbs due to cancer and cancer treatments, and people kept telling me how good I looked. Like, b*tch, I’m literally dying. This is not healthy. Don’t comment on people’s weight. Ever. Good or bad. It’s none of your business, and you have no idea what’s actually going on.
GOD seriously! I grew up starved by my parents, and everyone used to applaud me for it. I feel you. :@ It's so uncomfortable and yet so normalized, I hate seeing it for anybody.
I just said something similar the other day.. before I had a baby everyone would tell me to “eat a burger” or something… after I had baby and doctor tells me he’s concerned about my weight, I get the “you look soooo good after a baby” … ok I’m very unhealthy right now but thaaaaanks?
I agree 100 percent! Over 20 years ago I was struggling with a health issue and went from 123 pounds down to 105. EVERYONE felt like they had the right to comment. One woman even had the gall to ask me if I was going to the bathroom to make myself throw-up. (I wasn't!!) People just need to shut up on the weight of others -- it accomplishes nothing, other than making them feel bad.
lets normalize not to comment on ppl's bodies, esp on weight, it's frustrating, my friend lost weight too and everyone was like omg u lost a lot of weight, it's not a compliment it's like telling the pers u were too fat before now i respect u cos u hv a better weight. another one, was dying wit cancer and she was posting on facebook and ppl had the gall to tell her: omg u gained so much weight. bruh the girl was dying!!!!!!!!!!!
also the assumption that ppl will think u wanna lose weight cos u gained some. when i gained weight i was told js diet and gym, and i didnt even open my mouth abt how i felt but everyone pointed it out, everyone, and assumed i was sad abt it.
I think Jaclyn Glen had good intentions but it backfired because of the way it was handled but also because EC doesn’t want to be helped. It’s unfortunate and it set back EC on any chance of healing in the future. She will never get help again.
Would you think your friend had good intentions if after you were 5150'd, they went on UA-cam and told the world about it? A loving friend who genuinely cared would NEVER be so selfish.
@girlfromsouth214 that was after Eugenia lied about them to her fans and made them out to be hateful bullies
The issue isn't just her illness or what she looks like, the issue is that she won't admit she has a problem. She claims she's perfectly fine and healthy and she just naturally looks that way, meaning young girls will think they can look like her **and still be healthy**. THAT is the problem. That people will think they can be just like her with no damage to their bodies.
If someone wants to be like her, whether or not they had issues before seeing her (which I really don't think is automatically true as children are very impressionable and tend to admire and try to emulate anyone getting a lot of attention and fame. We don't look at her and want to be her because we're grown ass adults and know regardless of what she says that she's not healthy), she can still easily be the trigger for them acting on those issues. Refusing to acknowledge that is irresponsible. At the very least she should be age restricted.
The problem is I have never followed her for a reason and suddenly UA-cam pushes her on the public via shorts. I don’t give a fk about her life, but it’s gross the algorithm pushes this on me.
@@Mmshroom this too, 100%
Mom is a PIMP and ALL *human trafficking* signs . chaturbate girls stream for hours w\o eating as pimps force them . Eugenia asks permission for everything like going outside ,prob eating too .Deb put her in modeling as a teen (human trafficking industry )
Thank you. The girl who made this video had a really stupid take on this issue. She is very clueless as to how eating disorders start and how they work.
@@la6136 I am not educated on the issue. I find her content to be frightening. I find it to be strange that the UA-cam Algorithm is promoting her content in the “short” section. It is a very unique target audience that she caters to. I was looking up “Barbie•” movie and a day later her creepy short wearing pink with the barbie song was on my feed. I do not follow her and now she has consistently popped up in “shorts”.
While I agree with most of what you are saying, you do realize that disabled bodies ARE HEAVILY CENSORED and restricted in general on social media, right?
I’m physically disabled and can tell you that even medical devices can be flagged on multiple platforms and accounts are often deleted just for posting pictures of disabled bodies. Even just text about disability can get you flagged and banned. This isn’t meant to be a pro or con for her having a platform, I’m pointing out that this is an issue in general and I do agree with the creators saying it’s odd that she isn’t being taken down when someone showing off their new port or colostomy bag covers can get their account suspended.
It’s weird that she seems to come up in everyone’s feed while other disabled creators have to file appeals over every single thing they post.
I do agree that she is someone struggling with an illness. As someone who is disabled, I look to social media for my representation and I do not support taking someone’s platform away because they are struggling with an illness.
Just find it really suspicious how high she is in the algorithm when often disabled people are banned because their appearance is too ‘disturbing’.
She’s not ‘high in algorithm’, her channel doesn’t get recommended unless you search for her intentionally. Same is for videos made about her
@@emryborge7027 I had no idea who she was until I started seeing reels of her while scrolling. That’s when I found out who she was. I definitely wasn’t looking her up and her videos/reels were being suggested to me.
Everything I search for FOOD recipes on UA-cam a Eugenia video pops up in the feed even though I've never watched her. UA-cam recommends this to people because it's in UA-cams favor to have people BEGGING them for more censorship. That's why this is such a big scandal; UA-cam WANTS it to be and is pushing her in the algos.
See this I can understand and agree w people’s concern and I have my own gripes w the algo. I don’t think it should be prioritized over other types of content for sure.
Eugenia have never popped up when I searched for food recipes. 😂😂
yes, I also think this is about making people beg for censorship. Same trick over and over... Create a problem - wait for the reaction - offer a solution (which only benefits the rulers, not the people)
@ThatSurpriseWitness it's upsetting to people just to see her. That's why they push her content. Theyre using a vulnerable person to get what they want, desire for more censorship. I've been complaining for months that she pops up when I'm searching food. I'm sure it's done on purpose.
I just searched “food” and she did pop up…. That’s incredibly odd! She’s not a food channel. Strange.
9:52 gurl… I know u need to say this to not be liable but we all know from her own words in the past that she has a severe ED …
This is a tricky situation. I have watched some of Eugenia’s videos and I have seen her multiple times respond to comments saying “I eat, just like you guys” “there’s nothing wrong with me” “I am a normal weight”, etc. This is a woman who appears to be at deaths door from starvation. I have read comments on her videos, and there are hundreds of people complimenting her, telling her she’s beautiful and BELIEVE IT OR NOT, there ARE people saying they want to look like her. I do think it is harmful for the impressionable children (who are her target audience) to see a human skeleton claim to be a perfectly normal weight. After she appeared in shane dawson’s series admitting she was anor3xic. I don’t think she should be forced to do anything against her will. It is a very sad situation, and I don’t think there’s anything anyone can do to help her. I think youtube and twitch should at least make her content age-restricted so kids can’t see it. As someone who has also struggled with eating d/sorders, I know it’s not good for anyone for Eugenia to have millions of people seeing her content every day and commenting on how beautiful she is. But she does have that right to post it. It’s complicated.
Regardless, you can’t ban* her because she’s extremely skinny and seemingly dealing with a health condition. It’s arse backwards. She’s a grown woman.
I fell asleep crying last night just thinking about all of this and after watching a few of the EC videos and reading comments from young girls cheering her on.. .As for the age restriction (which would be ideal, but its rarely enforced by the ones who claim to do it, imo) And Everyone says 'parent your kids', and if your kid gets sucked into this..'oh well, that person must've been a sh*tty parent'. Okay, yes..maybe they are/were a bad parent. But what about all of the children without parents? What about the ones who's parents have passed away, or who's parents are single parents or they are completely exhausted from working 2-3 jobs just to stay afloat and buy groceries, or the parents that are addicted to their devices and just shew their kids away when they ask for dinner. Or the alcoholic parents? At what point are 'we' as a compassionate society responsible to speak out and protect those children that don't have a parent to do it..for whatever reason. My mind spins! The youth was already damaged after the lock downs and we've never had statistics this high for depression/anxiety in children/teens, it was incredibly damaging to their social/mental/emotional development, many parents could barely get their kids to the online classes on time (I have a lot of friends who teach, I heard first hand) so how are these parents going to monitor everything else? Its just so sad what is happening and we are sliding down a slope of becoming a very self-centered culture, living in our little bubbles and not really thinking about any problems that don't effect us directly/personally., I do support her freedoms and I do not want to be a hypocrite with her just because it hits me in a personal way, but the big picture, it has tentacles that are very sad and scary.
I mean, nobody bats an eyelash about the MULTIPLE mukbang/binge eating videos where people are *actually* promoting obesity and over-eating. That what kills me about people hating on Eugenia because she's existing. She has never promoted ana, she has never encouraged anyone to not eat/follow her diet/etc..., she does not post eating / "intuitive" eating. Does she need help? Absolutely. But feeding her mental illness with negativity and "confirmation" is not helping.
Thank you for being the only reasonable comment I've seen here so far. I see where she's coming from in this video and why she might have the opinion she does, but it seems like she's missing a lot of context and history about the situation.
And she also feeds the conversation by reading the comments about her appearance, eating habits. She could turn off comments or just talk about other topics other than her clothes or make up. there is also the possibility that she does what she does because it's made her famous and rich. She has to keep on feeding the fire (for bette or worse)
I think part of that argument is that she gets validation from other ill people and it helps feed the illness, even from people telling her she’s too thin. I don’t think taking away her livelihood would be a good thing, but in some ways I could see where people are coming from with that argument
This argument can be applied to any "bad" thing - i.e. someone who drinks a lot should be deplatformed because it validates themselves and others who choose to drink. Someone choosing to not medicate depression and share their struggles / story should be deplatformed because it "encourages" & validates others to not take pharmaceuticals. Etc etc.
Can’t ban a body. Look at Daddy Long Neck - an extremely skinny man with a medical condition. If we de-platform Eugenia, we de-platform anyone who looks a certain way. YT would also have to ask people for their medical records which is A. Illegal and B. Would never happen. People need to understand the ramifications of what they want. It’s insane!
Also, the people saying she’s scary skinny actually validates her. However, it’s the cruel people who funk with her and say “you’re fat” cuz that’s what gets her to eat less if you can even imagine that.
Thank you for always standing up for the rights of the people. This needs to be said and it would do us all good to think about what freedom is.
@@ImAtYourMumsHouse if you watched BJ's whole video she addresses this. what minors watch online can and should be monitored and censored if need be by parents if they are decent parents.
@@elluminaxI am a mother and I’m very aware it’s my job to be involved and monitor what my children watch and partake in. It’s my job to set boundaries and keep communication lines always open. Make sure they know what I expect & I listen to their needs and thoughts. It ain’t difficult. No one else is responsible for my child than myself and their other parent.
You’re so right! If she does decide to get help & puts on weight any well intentioned comments about her putting on weight will have a huge negative effect on her mentally. I also didn’t know this until recently but when someone says the person looks “sick” it’s actually a huge compliment to those struggling with EDs. The YT channel Of Herbs and Altar really helped me understand more, she made a really informative video speaking on Eugenia & the psychology of EDs from the perspective of someone who struggled with one herself.
Yup. Saying she’s stick thin or a skeleton is a compliment. Saying she looks healthy is not. People have even sent her super chats saying she looks fat and her cheeks are chubby. She’s gotten much skinnier since. It’s scary how this entire thing has evolved.
Same situation with addiction. If you have an addiction of any kind "they" meaning whomever wants to, can take away the rights of the addict. It makes no sense. If your not harming anyone (but maybe yourself) who cares. Why do people pretend to care so much? It's a control tactic and it's getting out of control.
I usually don’t disagree with you on anything, but her friends were seriously worried for her life. She always says she’s fine, clearly she’s not. Being hospitalized for self harm, whether it’s ed or alcohol or drugs is different than simply mental health. 5150 isn’t only about mental illness. They don’t do it for not eating in a way your friends want you to eat. It’s actually not that easy to get help with friends and family who aren’t rich. She has rights and she was let out. Just like most interventionist attempts end up.
It got worse. She's now besties with Jeffy Star.
I was wondering why his page was moderating her UA-cam
Clearly he’s just exploiting her like everyone else smh
She’s been friends with him for 15 years lol since MySpace days this isn’t a new friendship
What? lol
I'd say maybe he's trying to help her behind the scenes because she won't let anyone near her now.
I think most are concerned that her health is the result of being a victim of her mom doing this to her and imprisoning her in her own home, as an adult as well. Of course she’s going to say she’s fine because she doesnt want to upset her mother. People are trying to save her from her living situation and adult rights. This is like an adult version of 8 passengers.
If her mom is holding her captive against her will, then that's illegal and the cops should've been called on her MOM, not her. I fail to see how deplatforming her or subjecting her to an involuntary psych hold is going to help with her with her family issues... You can't force someone to act how you want them to. It's unfortunate that she's living in a situation like that, but she's a grown adult.
@@KaileyB616 yes illegal but no one does anything cause they keep claiming everything is fine. It’s said that her mom does this because they make a lot of money from it. Deplatforming her will stop the/most of the money from coming in. Sending her to treatment gets her away from her alleged abuser and stops money from coming in and gives her an opportunity to get help, get better, etc. however her mom has made her so afraid of hers that no matter what anyone does she just says things are fine. You’re dammed if you do and dammed if you don’t.
Damn !
I worry about her as a person.
But as a mother to two beautiful little humans. If my children saw her videos and wanted to be that skinny, then the problem isn’t her. The problem is much deeper and that problem sits at home. Kids can be affected by the content they consume, but as parents we need to be open and educate them what is healthy.
A person on social media is not responsible for how my child thinks or feels.
But that is just my opinion.
Thank you for doing this video. It’s nice to see someone airing this topic and approaching this way ❤
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I agree with you. It would be wrong to have her removed over her appearance and/or her eating disorder. If they did that it would be discrimination and they'd have to take down any cancer channels or mental health channels.
If anything, isn’t hiding her from the public also preventing her from being visible of a cautionary tale for where an eating disorder can take you, assuming that is the essence of the complaint?
The difference here is that online creators who are visibly struggling with cancer or mental health problems don't typically deny it and just say "oh yeah I'm fine and everything." She makes it seem like you can be her size and still be healthy and energetic with no issues whatsoever.
@@livingmorganismI think her denying it is part of the complex mental health condition she has. Plenty of people are mentally unstable with platforms that don't get questioned
Genuine question did you actually research the situation at all or like.. did you just watch the richlux interview
My thoughts exactly. No way she researched her content properly. You can tell she has zero clue the depths of disfunction, lies and poor inflience she jas had thru the years on many vulnerable kids..her struggle po*n and how her content is made for kids or pervs thus bringing the 2 together.
I have IBD - inflammatory bowel disease. My weight goes from super skinny when I’m really ill to clinically obese within 6 months when the medication has kicked in then is too much, then it takes over a year of working out to get back to my regular weight. Even longer to lose the moon face side effect! I’m doing great at the moment, but I have seen all the judgement people give and receive at all points on the scale. Stop judging people for their body shape, it’s never going to help them! Support people without threatening them with removing their rights. I never heard of this person before and already I feel sad for what she’s gone through. Great video BJ!
I don’t think people want to take her down because of imagining. It’s because people believe she’s “self harming” to remain relevant online. That’s just my opinion and comments I’ve seen.
I am so glad you're pointing out the slippery slope that this will create if she is removed from UA-cam. We cannot just pick and choose what we personally want to see online. It is our responsibility to allow things into our lives and avoid the things we don't want. We have the capacity to turn things off or turn something else on. We have the means to set up our children's phones to let them engage and avoid what we as parents see fit. I've done this with my boy's phone so, I know it's possible. I personally don't want to give corporations my rights to free speech. They already restrict it as is. Say they do start restricting things of this nature, but find it's too difficult, and enlist the help of the government? Do you really want the government being able to do that? It can open so many unwanted doors that we won't be able to shut. Say this is some eating disorder with her as well. I've battled ana myself, and still do, even though I'm in much better health today. From my experience, no one could force me to get help for this, although my family tried drastic routes to do so. I only got "better" when I wanted to do and was in the mental position to tackle this beast. It is similar to addiction, where you seem to see much better results when the person who suffers seeks the help, because both of these illnesses you have to truly want to tackle before any treatment works because they're so damn hard to get a handle on. We have to stop punishing people with illnesses we don't understand. They have the same rights as anybody, and them "looking" or acting different should never be a means to take those rights away! What if her channel is how she copes? Some sort of therapy for her? Would we take other forms of therapeutic things away from anyone else? The way people treat her is inhumane, and it needs to stop. They don't to help her. They just want her out of sight and out of mind just like people do with other people who have mental or physical disorders, mental illness, handicaps, etc.
I disagree & agree. No, absolutely no one should be bullying her, threatening her, etc., & the channels that dedicate their lives to talking crap about her are gross & they should be reprimanded for bullying on a private platform.
That said, Eugenia Cooney is also using a private platform to harm others. Do I think she is intentionally trying to harm others? No. Do I think she’s aware of the viewers she brings in & that those viewers are impressionable & want to be her? Yes. & While we can constantly debate where the problem started, it’s honestly irrelevant because Eugenia & UA-cam both know that her content only further harms her & her viewers. We can complain about the guardians not monitoring their kids’ online activity but 1) that’s just not possible 24/7 for every guardian and 2) kids are sneaky as hell & they will find a way to consume what drives them.
Lastly, “stealing someone’s voice” is not the same thing as putting an end to harmful language/actions. If we don’t believe that anyone online should be “silenced” or “removed” because it’s “stealing their voice,” then what happens when people decide that it’s okay to spread hate speech, threats of violence, racist rhetoric, and so on. As much as you can say, “where’s the line, what if we say cancer patients aren’t allowed on here?” we can also say “where’s the line, what if we allow hate speech so we don’t silence anyone?”
At the end of the day, UA-cam & Twitch are private companies & they get to decide what’s allowed on their platform & therefore, they are not taking away anyone’s freedoms by removing someone, but they are indirectly endorsing creators they allow on their platforms & when those creators make content they’re aware harmful & continue to do so because it makes them money, the billions of people who view those creators can & do get harmed.
*Lastly, the situation with Eugenia’s ex friends is more in depth than you shared. I know that you made the disclaimer than you haven’t researched everything but is far more nuanced than you shared & when your best friend is on the verge of dying & it’s due to something that they can get help for but they don’t, you’ll do what you can to try & help them. We can, again, argue the morality of 5150s, but making that decision is *incredibly* difficult one & I have both had it done to me & then, years later, had to do it to someone, so yeah, I understand it from both sides. Her ex friends didn’t make that decision lightly & they weren’t trying to harm her.
I absolutely adore you & your content, so I mean absolutely no disrespect towards you or this video & I apologize if I come off that way. I just think this situation & situations like it are more nuanced than we think & since every “similar” situation involves different people, with different backgrounds, different friends & family, and different health conditions, we can’t just assume that they’re all bad or all good. Many people’s lives have been saved due to 5150s, due to removing the thing that was encouraging their deterioration (I.e. being paid to show off body checks), and so on, just as people have lost their lives to those same things. So, I can’t find myself to be a hard supporter of either side, tbh, & I think that’s where a lot of people are at as well.
Well thought out comment. I agree to every point you made.
You’re onto something, BJ. I’m about your age. When her 5150 was covered across tea channels, i wonder about the lasting impact on younger viewers/young adults… An increased acceptance of institutionalizing adults in non-suicidal “distress”? Sure hope not - i’ve had my own moments & would fear that!
When I say this exact thing, people accused me of wanting her to not be alive. It's frustrating knowing that people are comfortable with their own rights and others rights being taken away. It's like they don't know what it means when they are saying things.
Something crazy I noticed when I searched Eugenia cooney on UA-cam is the adds for “weight loss” placed between every few videos. Conveniently placed there BY UA-cam. Am I crazy or is that pretty fucked up???
Yep! Ever since I watched this video the ‘machine’ is pushing Eugenia and weight loss Ozempic content to me. I even left a comment about this being triggering for me and I’ve been hospitalized for A. I’m a size 2! Love you too, algo! You ain’t crazy!
Eye opening. This video has provoked a bit of self reflection. I’ve always thought of Eugenia as one of the most darling & sweet girls to exist, but also thought it wasn’t “appropriate” or “safe” for her to be given a large platform. Before this vid got even half way through I could clearly see why what I thought was wrong. So many great examples of hypocrisy. Always a blessing to gain new perspective, learn & grow.
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She shouldn't be deplatformed, she's never promoted EDs or given any ED tips or anything like that. Not everyone who is sick with a disorder should be deplatformed.
I do think her friends had good intentions 5150ing her. I don't think 5150s work because the person has to want help, they can't be forced. But saying people could get 5150ed for eating processed food is beyond ridiculous, come on now. It's for people who are in extreme immediate danger, not for people who will eventually probably get cancer or other health issues from a poor diet.
Doing a 5150 on someone with a ED is not helpful at all…speaking from personal knowledge. It’s actually harmful.
I haven only heard ONE person state publicly that the 5150 was good for them - Steve-o the failed clown. Everyone else has said it did more harm than good
The only time I find a 5150 can be useful is if someone is having a psychotic break. In the case of coping mechanisms, like drug addiction or ED and that usually result from trauma, a 5150 is another traumatic event and makes the individual suffer even more. It’s involuntary and inhumane.
@@JessicaRivyyou make a good point about how we think of people with "unhealthy" coping mechanisms. Creating more trauma will only lead to worsened issues for them. It feels like no one considers this... 😢
Not true.
It’s such a tough situation. She seems like such a sweet person. Eating issues are tough. It’s like an addiction. You did change my mind about her getting forced into treatment.
People keep focusing on her channel and giving her attention - regardless of good, bad, concerning, etc. That's what drives her, the attention and "fame". She's got issues, but people can't make her seek help.
I’m not 100% sure on this, but I think the internet is how Eugenia makes a living… to take that away from her because she has AN ILLNESS is disgusting! Just like you said, if a little girl or little boy see her and think “I wanna look just like her!” then there’s already been an issue bubbling under the surface. Yes, it’s heartbreaking to see Eugenia like that, but to take away her voice as well as her source of income is bullsh*t. And I can’t speak for Eugenia, but if it were me, taking that away would just cause me to spiral downward. Taking her voice away isn’t helping ANYONE, and instead would be doing way more harm than good. Period.
Why is “the system” allowing Eugenia to be a harm to herself in plain sight. Isn’t that grounds for commitment of her to someplace that can help her?
No. She’s a grown woman. She doesn’t have to divulge or admit any of her MEDICAL information to appease you. What if you have a mental disorder that make you look different? Would you want to be forced to say it to thousands of strangers? No. Please think about what you’re saying before you say it. You’re an entitled brat.
you’re so right. even as someone who suffered seriously with an eating disorder, i judged her, and now i think that may just have been my being triggered by the content instead of considering her mental state over years
“Too bad! We cannot steal people’s freedom because you are a piss poor parent!” -BJ Courville.
Agreed.
I think youre a very compassionate person but i do think the situation is beyond "speculation". And i also believe its harmful for some viewers to see her like this. Do i want her deplatformed? No. Demonetized, yes. Only because i think that will be the only thing that will make her reevaluate her position. If you went deeper into the rabbit hole youd realize most of her monetization comes from fetishizers. And she has also allowed predators to moderate her servers. She is very hypocritical in her words vs her actions.
But most of all her family, who she funds and who she has around her all the time, are the ones who need help. They are doing nothing thats in the favor of her well being and they should be the first ones to do so. They know whats going on but they do nothing to help her,and thats the saddest part for me.
Rich Lux is just exploiting her
allegedly in my opinion
So glad you are addressing this issue. Love your content BJ. You inspire me everyday ❤❤
It's so beyond refreshing to be able to come here and listen to someone speak about things with logic and common sense. I cant express enough how much i appreciate you and your channel. It genuinely confuses me that anyone would have a different opinion than this, and even more confusing & honestly alarming that so many people do.
Hive mind (it’s a cult)
@@ThatSurpriseWitness absolutely
Jaclyn exposed mom for being controlling . Mom took her out of the 5150 early and moved to Connecticut (state w worst involuntary comittment grading F ) . The more ppl talk about it , more likely bigger ppl will step in
She absolutely should not be deplatformed. I agree.
However friends that got her 5150’d tried to save her life BJ. We are watching EC kill herself in slow motion. Not fair to say the friends who got her 5150’d didn’t have her best interest in mind.
they didn't. 5150s are notoriously traumatizing. if they had her best interest in mind, they would have researched what they actually were doing. People have talked about how 5150s hurt more than help for YEARS.
@ThatSurpriseWitness they did though
I watched the whole thing.
i think we also need to remember that the internet is her *job*. she may not even *want* to be on the internet anymore, i certainly wouldn't want to be with all the shit she gets tossed at her, but it's her income now. she can't even go online to do her job and play pokemon in a twitch stream without horrendous amounts of abuse. in any other workplace those abusive people would be banned.
This is why I feel her mom forces it on her cause it makes them so much money. Like what else does she ever talk about beside replying to the same comments for 8+hrs a day, every day. She’s a prisoner in her own home by her mom who she is terrified of… who won’t let her go outside to look at the bloody moon! I would suspect this to not be a natural illness but one that was pushed on her by her controlling mother who also doesn’t want her to get help. She doesn’t seem to have adult rights in her own home.
I disagree. If she was on the internet talking about her "illness" and trying to get help, it would be fine. She is not. She constantly shows her body denying she has any issue, saying she's just naturally thin. Most peoples only reason to watch her channel is to see if she's still alive. Her mom or any of the people close to her seem to not be trying to help her. Getting her off the internet is the way to save her. Her filming herself is part of her illness. It's a difficult situation, but I think it's best to remove her channel.
I'm a round-ish kind of woman, my best friend is naturally thin.... We work out together so she can gain muscle weight and I try to loose weight.... after she had her surprise miracle baby she had about 40lbs on her... She LOVED HER BODY..... She eventually lost the baby weight. Her hubby is a chef, we EAT... We all have issues with our bodies, thin or round.... Let her be... If you don't like EC DON'T WATCH... WE HAVE CHOICES, JUST BECAUSE WE DON'T LIKE SOMEONE'S CHOICE, DOESN'T MEAN THEY'RE ENTITLED TO IT....
Exactly. She’s a grown arse woman. If she triggers you, block her.
I’m of two minds on almost all things as well. I think the problem with cancer argument and this is that you can’t get cancer by romanticizing it on the internet to my knowledge. That doesn’t mean I believe in deplatforming her (it also seems impossible and doesn’t work) but I am open to considering limiting comments or something so the pro ana community doesn’t congregate there, but I agree that it’s a slippery slope, like most things. I have come to terms over time with supporting the add*cts in my life to make sure they have autonomy and just removing myself. I am trying to apply the same logic here but I am curious-would you support someone online actively using? People may be predisposed but there certainly could be some rhetoric around it that influences people to tip over the edge (and food is one of the very few things children have control over). The converse of course is that getting communities together often supports recovery so idk. It’s a very tough situation. I think we need to think outside the box.
I would say thousands, if not millions, of people have gotten skin cancer from laying in tanning beds - should we deplatform Trisha Pastas and all the body builders who promote that standard?
@@ThatSurpriseWitness I just saw this reply. Thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts! Your content has definitely opened my mind a lot and brings up many things I haven’t considered or wouldn’t have viewed the way you do. I think a lot of positive change has come from it and will continue to.
Your point is well taken, I’m not sure if that was reflected in the tone of my prior comment. I just have trouble thinking there has to be something that can make a positive impact but it may not be something I’ve ever thought of or has ever been done-just not sure what that is or if that’s just a mindset or comes from the bad feeling some people have when standing by and not doing anything.
Refreshing take. This is what makes it complicated, there’s hardly anything anyone can do to help her
It's obvious that she's very ill, but that's not a reason to deplatform anyone. The reality is that there's not necessarily anything anyone can do to help her, if she doesn't want help.
Ok, but using that same logic, if someone is suicidal you don't leave them in the same environment that the got sick. Whatever the cause, she is sick. She is promoting an unhealthy lifestyle. This is YT that bans educational channels, cannabis and much less. How many posts does she have where she's addressing her own issues and documenting the process? Her viewers share the blame for whatever her fate. Someone has the be the responsible adult in this situation or nothing changes which is a harm to all parties involved.
@@Shay416 Exactly.
@@Shay416 I've never heard of anyone getting better from forced hospitalization and being drgd against their will. It leaves people feeling betrayed and paranoid that it could happen again. How's taking away someone's source of income and social life going to help them?
@@Shay416I totally agree, there are teens on this platform. And she’s not “skinny” she’s skeletal. If BJ watched any of her most recent content she is skin and bones and it’s not just skinny. People have watched her for ages do this to herself and admit she has a problem. But this isn’t the case of “skinny shaming” it’s witnessing someone self harm.
Part of the with 5150 is that they were trying to get her away from her mother. Her mother is the problem, in my opinion.
I think you have completely and utterly missed the point of this… it’s nothing about her not eating the diet her friends want her to eat, go and have a look at her when she got put into hospital.. she’s at a huge risk, and there is evidence her mother is complicit in her eating habits due to her financial gain from her daughters platform. It sounds very much like you’re listening to Eugenia’s ED.
I actually searched last week to see if you had covered her yet, so this is blowing my mind right now. I'm definitely waiting for it!
I understand what you’re saying. 1000%
However, I think similar to Britney’s situation - we need to look into her mother. The person behind the camera who is seemingly watching this happen and not helping her. It’s giving human tr*ff*ck*ng.
I don’t support deplatforming her because I hate her, or because of how she looks. I think it’s the only way in which (maybe) we save her life. If she passes- it will be because this is her (and her MOTHERS’) pay cheque.
but that's not a call for UA-cam or any of us to make or assess. that would be for a mental health professional or law enforcement to assess whether she's being abused
I’m worried for her 😢
Love Eugenia but her Mother needs to be looked at .
I've been getting eviscerated in Rich's comments for this same opinion... It's really hard for me to understand why everyone is so obsessed with controlling Eugenia (or anyone else).
Yeah idk why she’s held to this standard and why people are so truly hateful and barbaric toward her
strangers on the internet trying to get the government to force people to get some sort of help seems so ridiculous to me
I know this is an old-ish video but I just wanted to give my two cents. She definitely has a disorder, HOWEVER, “deplatforming” her, might not only *not* serve the purpose a lot of people think it will, but most likely will only make her spiral into her disorder even more! A lot of what seems to be holding her up IS the ability to make content, if she has that taken away, imagine how much more fragile her mental health is going to be! I have no idea what the solution would be as she seems really really deep into her mental problems and by the looks of it (allegedly) enabled by her own mother, however I would never call the police on her, ask for a wellness check, try to take her off of youtube or any other crazy thing people are doing/recommending. All I can do is pray for her and hope she gets better!
The internet is today's public square. Imagine booting someone from the public square because they have a health issue. It is no different than walking in the mall and shouting that some random person needs to leave. People focus on Eugenia and create an angry mob because it gives them warped validation. It's awful that her supposed friends were the loudest in the mob. She must have felt so betrayed.
At least in my country, cops boot drunks and druggies from the public sqare all the time..without them bothering or hurting anyone but themselves. (and this is something I disagree with..btw. Everyone should be allowed in public spaces )
Exactly.
Imagine going to a public square, pulling out a razor blade and slicing open your wrists. I mean it's an illness so it's fine. It's her right to be SICK right? Imagine going to a public square and whipping out a heroin needle....smack smack smak...get that vein.....addiction is an illness .
NOW......imagine....just IMAGINE...living in a world where THAT GARBAGE IS OK!!!???? *GET A GRIP*
@@LittleMissStamper You can try justifying bullying people with health issues any way you wish. That doesn't make your bullying any less offensive. You must seriously lack reasoning skills if you think a very thin person merely existing in a public sphere is equivalent to someone shooting up or slitting their wrists in public. You seem to have a lot of angst towards this lady merely because she has a health issue. That's weird to me. If you see a person in a mall with a health issue and you are offended or triggered, are you going to run up to them and whine about how much they are hurting you too?
@@ImAtYourMumsHouse I wouldn't be surprised if you UA-cam warriors going after this lady aren't exaggerating this too. I don't know much about her. But, one thing is for certain. I trust BJ's opinion that she appears to be a very sweet person far more than other random people on the internet like you in the angry mob.
We've BEEN needing to talk about Eugenia Cooney. She's not going to last much longer.
also the fact that ppl want to tk away her only income is beneficial how? also influencers arent babysitters, ppl should learn how to tk care of their kids.
Yeah at first I was like no I disagree then I kept listening now my brain has unlocked a new level lmaooo. Love you!
Haha 😂 I’m so glad you stuck it out. I appreciate you hearing out the whole message 🙏🏻💕🌈
Yes 👏 I actually in other people’s videos said I was worried about the children watching saying “I want to look just like you” to EC was dangerous because it’s been talked about so much, but listening to BJ really opened my eyes and got me thinking it’s not her responsibility to take care of others children and like BJ there’s probably already something going on with those people in the 1st place. So I’m glad BJ covered this because it just made sense. 💗💕🤗
I don’t watch her or follow this case other than what comes up randomly on my feed. So I haven’t been down the rabbit hole to completely understand it, but from what I’ve gathered, it’s shocking how vehemently people hate this woman and want her “cancelled.” And fail to see where this type thinking leads. And how hypocritical. Where does it end? There may be more to it I’m not aware of as I’m not super familiar. But I appreciate you covering this with a reasonable logical perspective. I agree with everything you said.
You really said that with your chest and I’m here for it 👏🏼
Bj your authenticity and compassion is relentless. Please keep being you!
Happy Birthday !
Man, what a great view point, i never considered this topic in that manner. Thank you for sharing. 🧡
I actually agree with your points here. I still stand by and will always stand by the fact that her content needs to be age restricted. That way, it limits kids access, other than that, let the woman live her life.
If this is how it’s gonna be then they should also kick out nickocado avocado guy. Or any obese ppl promoting unhealthy eating.
Everytime an obese person shares any food online...deplatformed ! They're obviously trying to make everyone else obese 🙄
If Eugenia starts fighting her disorder on her channel, i Will start following her.. She is sweet and I just wont watch her shrink anymore.. Hope she gets well❤
27:03 THIS guy is a joke. He needs to run a gossip forum or something. He reports on things without any type of context
Wow thank you for sharing a different side of this!! ❤
Thanks for this video, BJ. 💜 My body has been out of wack the last year from trying to find the right medications. I lost my appetite and had to force myself to eat (still kind of do) and I lost the 50 pounds I gained from being pregnant 2.5 years ago. I barely have the strength to workout some days from having no energy, so my weight loss was NOT healthy. I get compliments on my weight loss all the time and have to explain to them that the way I lost weight isn't a good thing. So many people have ideal body types in mind and assume those body types are "healthy." Many people who are underweight or overweight are probably more healthy than I am, but people just go off of appearances. Getting compliments on my body now makes me upset because I felt a lot healthier (physically) BEFORE I lost the weight.
Well, tbh skinny people are a normal weight limit. A lot of people are overweight but it's become normal. With fast food chains and the stuff they put in our foods. I'm not talking Eugenia skinny but skinny. So that's understandable why people say that. If you go look at old movies of people back then that's a healthy weight to be at. Nowadays everyone has weight so it seems normal.
You know, I got a lot out of this. Thank you for doing this video
I agree that she shouldn’t be deplatformed because people do have a right to freedom of speech - it’s our 2nd amendment. However, that also means people are allowed to speak freely on what they see when content creators post for the public. This could be looked at from different sides and speaking from personal experience, I am SO glad that my family interfered because I would rather be alive and healthy today than 6ft under. When I was in that state of mind, I thought I was fine. I thought I was healthy. I’m glad I got the push I got so that I could see what I was doing to my self. But that was MY choice to get healthy. Nobody could force, all they could do was help be a guide.
Yes, Eugenia’s friends initiated the process of a 5150 - but Eugenia CHOSE to get help after the 5150 was complete. People fall back into old patterns and an ED is literally like a drug addiction. You relapse. The interview with Rich was very biased and only shows Eugenia’s mindset now.
When it comes down to it, she has a choice. She is choosing to stay in the mindset she is and there’s nothing anybody can do about it. We’re only consuming what she’s showing us when she’s recording and uploading. We do don’t know what’s going on behind the scenes.
Whatever side of the coin we’re on, in the end we all have rights and we all have the right to freedom of speech.
i first learned about her from sloan a few years ago and i said it was so sad how everyone talks about eugenia but no one wants to talk with her. i was so proud to see him finally interview her. whatever is going on with her she doesn't deserve abuse. people who watch eugenia with issues will see how people bully her for existing in the public. people don't even want to help eugenia, they just want to control her and their idea of "help" is to abuse her and cut her off from the world and isolate her to the environment everyone says is making her sick. how does that make any sense, to be cut off from help? it's so weird watching the general internet "help" people by berating them instead of trying to find ways to compassionately reach someone.
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You never cease to impress me. We all should be free to express ourselves as long as it doesn't hurt another person. You can silence people because you don't like them. Thank you for standing up for people. ❤
What I think some people fail to understand about A is that criticism is really a compliment to their ears. I don’t watch her but her recent short about putting a ring on it was just pushed to me after watching BJ, and I seriously wanted to cry. My heart aches for this lady.
Lost me on this one she needs off the internet but so do tons of others they allow to stay
“They allow” 🤮
@@lilachats 🤮 back at ya
@@lilachats they meaning UA-cam … Facebook .. you know the ones with the power 🙄
@@SunShine333. girl… you are the power. We are the ones who give her engagement, not YT or Facebook. If you want her to disappear, it’s quite simple! Literally!
I would like to see you do a video about her mothers relationship to her & her finances......
Love that you brought up that seeing Eugenia and wanting to look like her would be a pre-existing condition. Never thought of that before. Its not all on Eugenia. I hope she gets actual help though. Great video and glad you talked about it respectfully.
With the 5150 situation, Eugenia was given a mental evaluation prior to being put into rehab. Based on that evaluation it was determined that she wasn't mentally well. They didn't take her away immediately. I don't agree with her being deplatformed but I don't think it's wrong for people to be concerned for her especially since she has confessed to having an ED. Her home situation definitely doesn't help her out either since she's extremely isolated and her mother controls everything she gets to do
They determine everyone isn’t mentally well. They’d do it to you too if 2 friends said you were mentally unwell. 1-3 days of freedom stolen.
Shes a full grown adult with rights to live however she wants even if it's killing her. If you are ok with her rights being taken then you better be ok with YOUR rights taken. People are so mean to this very ill women, the same people will watch a morbidly obese person eat a mountain of food in one sitting and call them beautiful.
Valid point, however, there are young kids that are extremely impressionable that watch her content. It’s dangerous to see someone profit from an illness. That’s exactly what she’s doing. It’s honestly terrifying.
@rachelnetti4769 that is the job of parents, not Eugenia. If you are letting people on the internet influence your children, YOU are the problem, not eugenia. Maybe fight to have impressionable children removed from yt. This is a slippery slope. Taking rights away from adults is dangerous and it's only a matter of time before someone comes for yours. Grow up and quit bullying sick people because it makes you uncomfortable. All you have to do is block her. Don't watch. It's our choice to watch. Please, grow tf up.
@@augustseven9243 that’s fair. For the record, YT is the only social media I use. My children don’t even know what social media is, and I intend to keep it that way.
But my point is, people visit her content because she is ill. There’s really no other reason. I personally don’t believe it should be monetized, but she should be able to keep her channel.
And I agree- I would never comment on an ill person’s body. Not my place.
@rachelnetti4769 ok so people are choosing to watch her content because they chose to. They have a right but still eugenia doesn't? Makes no sense.
@@augustseven9243UA-cam is a single website. Preventing her content from reaching kids on a single website isn't the kind of dramatic censorship y'all are making it out to be.
There's another YT creator: "Mom of 8 Kids" to whom the vultures of the internet are currently targeting. She recently lost her husband... and has mistakenly come to the internet in search of support... ugh.😔 She and her late husband, who was chronically ill, led a different, simple life. The masses online have, this week, called CAS here in Ontario to report her dirty house. The cruelty that we are forced to witness daily online... typically pointed towards the most vulnerable amidst us... is so discouraging... and scary tbh. Where has our humanity gone??
Please be kind to one another today online. The world needs not any more hate.
BJ I know you said you didn’t want to make this video but I am so glad you did. Everything you said was the exact same thing I been saying since I first saw Eugenia on the internet. This girl has been on the internet since 2011 and no body said anything about it then. I saw many horrible things on the internet. There was a video where teenagers actually stood and filmed a man drowning in a lake. They didn’t try to help him they didn’t call for help and stood and filmed it while they laughed and made jokes while the man was seriously losing his life. How come nobody hunted down those kids and 5150’d them because I truly believe they should have been locked up. People can have their opinions about Eugenia but when an opinion hurts someone and literally takes their rights away? What has happened to the world we live in?
Did you see that PA State Trooper that had his ex girlfriend locked up for 4 days by lying she was disturbed?! Terrifying!! That poor lady was so helpless to do anything for herself. Worse still? He’s married with a whole family and only dated this woman for 4 months!! He has been arrested. But, he needs PRISON! As a resident of this state I’m disgusted!
Also, thoughts on the PDMP? I have seriously been considering contacting a Constitutional attorney to take that on. People have no idea it even exists or how it violates our Privacy and Rights! Once again, repeating myself, but stolen Rights thru emergency. “Think of the children!” They sold it under the opioid crisis. (People always ignore alcohol for some reason. Hmm, could it be manipulative and not politically expedient to attack a social norm?? Alcohol kills magnitudes more a year and costs us, as a society, magnitudes more than drugs.) They can never steal Rights that way, though.
Would love you forever if you did a video on it just to inform people about it. They have no idea what it is or does. Or, who has access to it. Hospital workers, pharmacy workers, every doctors office, police, etc. The common citizens don’t, of course. And, once something is on it, even if you never even took it, it’s there forever! You can be red flagged from receiving proper medical care on it, too. It needs to GO! Costs taxpayers millions every year to maintain and the makers admit its ineffective at the very reason it was created to do!! It’s unacceptable. It’s why terminal cancer patients don’t receive proper pain management. People like myself. Stage 4 breast cancer, very aggressive type. I am on a drug currently thanks to Right to Try from Trump. People have no idea about that, either. Trump gave terminal patients the Right to try any medications or treatments we think could work. Anything!! Even trial medicine without being in the trial. This is my 2nd time using it. It’s sorta working but my markers are up again. I may not have much time left.
They're de-platforming people cause they have an eating disorder that makes them skinny. Lots of people think this is reasonable. Why, then, are there so many obese people on the internet? Is it okay to ban them when they're skinny, but not when they're fat?
I really respect how you handled this. As someone who had an ED in high school and most of college, I think you're correct - if someone admires that body type then the problems are preexisting.
I commented on others, not her, on one of her videos and made the point, “do yall think bullying her is going to help?” I got dog piled OML. I don’t agree with it. No one can change Eugenia’s life but her BUT it’s her business, her life. We don’t truly know anything but what she shows us. People need to get common sense out there.
If you see her content you will clearly see that she is promoting her ED!!
So?
Don’t watch it. What are obese mukbangers like nikocado avocado doing? Are you advocating t for him to be banned?
She needs to have her speech and freedom. The problem becomes medical if she takes a sudden turn. The docs will do the same thing. 5150.
She had taken a sudden turn and d dropped weight when the 5150 was done.
But trust me all her content is about fashion and she is flashing her bones and purposely and smartly putting the camera in specific angles to show her bones
So? Don’t watch it. I don’t watch it and it doesn’t affect me at all you should try that approach.
@@ThatSurpriseWitnessI don’t get how you can compare it to addiction and then don’t realize these same young girls you’re saying who already had a problem before seeing her well now they’re hyper fixated on her content like it’s a drug to them making them more sick but okay again like I said in another comment don’t remove her completely I don’t agree with taking her rights away but she should at the very least be age restricting her content she’s a grown ass woman parading around in scantily clad clothing for children in which she’s often flashed her chest crotch and butt to her mostly underage audience on live streams if you don’t see a problem with that then I guess you’re not as smart as I thought you were
I’ve always empathized w Eugenia. I think she was blindsided and I really believe that 5150 was very traumatic for her. Might’ve even made her condition worsen I even did a video a while back about this whole sitch and it still holds up. Yes I agree it is likely that she has an illness . I also clearly see how oblivious she is to the influence she could have on young women ( not to mention the pedo moderators she had to take down) That’s why it’s hard to agree on any solution. I don’t think she should be de-platformed but I do think it’s not a black and white issue, the thing is young girls ARE seeing her and they are vulnerable, It’s too complicated and too crazy for me to say she should be de-platformed but I think her influence is a big issue (one that she doesn’t seem to understand or acknowledge). It’s a lot different for someone who’s got “their legs bitten off by a shark.” I’ve seen this shit play out even the last few years and the cause and effect is real. She likes to play for the camera that she has no influence and her intentions are pure yadayada. I don’t body shame anyone but can we call something what it is? She’s not just “skinny”. Her posts echo holocaust victims. It’s more than disturbing but I don’t have a solution 🤷🏼♀️ Idk what the answer is BJ, but is anyone really trying to “throw her in prison”? Idk. For me this is a pick your battles situation and I would not attach my cart to that horse. If I had a young daughter I’d absolutely be more decisive in my opinion. Thank god I don’t have children. They would literally be banned from the internet in a freaking dungeon 😂 I just can’t anymore. Who is really trying to “lock her up”? It’s always been the same. She’s not “damned if she don’t.” She always comes the same. Very nice words from her. But her body should literally be a trigger warning.
Yes!!! The 5150 I believe worsened it as well! Super traumatic 😢 there is a lovely German woman (non English video sadly) who did an AMAZINGGG video basically describing what you did about that aspect (5150)
A rant but all that to say, well said and I agree
My sister suffered from eating disorders my entire childhood. I am not speaking for everyone when i say this, but in my experience, pouring a limelight on the topic and singling someone out never helps. In my experience, all that action results in people feeling like they have no safe places in their life. If this is her only outlet, then taking that away, not only are you violating her rights, but you are taking away her safe place and outlet. I understand that it is heartbreaking and concerning to see her like this, but only her loved ones and professionals can aid her with her mental health and eating disorders. No matter how much the public might care, any action that is taken against her will only cause her more harm than good. Eugenias channels are her outlets. Her safe place.
And yes, i believe we should protect children, but protecting children should first and foremost come from a parents good judgement as well as channel appropriate age restrictions. But no one should have the right to punish a person for having a disability and mental health disorders.
I couldn't agree more with BJ.
We should be showing eugenia love, support, and empathy.
She is a human being. ♥️
Also Jefree Star moved out of california to a state where he couldn't be 51/50 or have a conservatorship placed on him without a jury.
Also Also, we don't lock up overweight people for being unhealthy, and yet there are the same risks and dangers to your health.
Food for thought.
I had an Ed, when I was sick of course would wanted to be like her, now I am healed I don’t even want to weight how I weight at my lowest also I don’t watch her because, that is what sane people do, see someone or something they don’t like don’t watch it it’s not like she is a political figure that needs fact checking