I’ve owned a one-year-old Taycan GTS Sport Turismo from new, and it’s simply the best car I own or have ever owned. Cannot wait until the facelift GTS is launched.
Great review covering a lot of bases, great engineering as always. For competitors, what about the Ioniq 5N you raved about recently? I know not the same market place, badge nor efficiency and not as much sportscar.... roomy as a Cayenne in fact... but both appeal to driving enthusiasts. I know quite a few owners that were cross shopping* these or even owned one before. Also had a 997/991 owner in mine that was impressed by the car and the build.... *I was against a 2nd hand sport turismo, but really needed the added rear space of the 5 N, as you rightly point out the Taycan is realistically a 4-seater.
Great review, Bryan. Appreciate the nod to the RWD, fast enough edition. Even the base battery is plenty, when you consider the charge speeds. You shouldn't drive to Scotland without a stop so why waste battery material. I know the bigger battery protects resale, but we shoukd all be carefully choosing a forever car and driving them into the ground to make motoring closer to sustainable.
I agree. But the car has to obey. I own a c63 touring with 62000 miles on it and albeit running perfectly smooth, i am scared of the costs coming at me soon (inspections, brakes, ...) and i am praying nothing breaks.
I got the Etron GT two years ago. Was a toss up between it and the Taycan. I think the Etron looks better but my choice was swayed by the C&S option on the Etron GTwhich made it cheaper than the Taycan with the same options. I’ll be renewing next year and am going to have the Taycan this time. Just got a change, as I’ve loved the Etron GT
Iv just had one on test from Porsche uk Sidcup and the 4s was phenomenal- but it’s too expensive new , as a normal guy buying it ( not for business use ) it’s too expensive to own considering depreciation from new , I’d possibly buy one from Porsche approved used but im still concerned about its residual value once Iv owned one . Porsche engineering and quality is a good step above bmw/ merc - biggest surprise for me with the Taycan test drive was just how low the car felt , it’s not a bmw 5 series rival it drives like a 911 revival .
to much money plenty of alternatives at more competitive prices also £56k for an out of warranty battery is a little off putting ,needs to have a very long warranty 4 m e to even consider..
Great review Brian. The range increase is a big factor and huge depreciation just means there are great deals on 6-12 month old gen1 cars. Does feel like a “proper” Porsche. Your initial cross turismo rev was a factor in test driving one. So thank you
Thanks to its insane depreciation, it will be my first Porsche ever. I can easily afford the use, tyres, inspections etc but never the 160k price tag. But 60 to 70 i can do. To get the best car I will have ever owned
I’ve had a Taycan GTS Sport Turismo for one year, from new, and I’m waiting for the facelift to be launched so I can order a new one. The best car I’ve ever owned. Period.
The comment from Markymark suggests that he'd really like to be able to afford such a car and sounds a touch bitter that perhaps he cannot. Most people who buy cars at this price point don't worry about small things such as depreciation. Mere bagatelle. They just enjoy their hard earned and they'll have plenty more cash where that came from. Good for them. Jealousy is so 'yesterday'.
@@geoffarceden so long as you are binning your own money on this generation of EVs and not mine all is good :) I'm just not sure how you sleep at night being part of all that environmental waste and harm caused by these disposable vehicles :((
It’s a refresh, not a redesign. You’re not going to get a drastic change! On top of that, Porsche don’t do drastic changes! When they do a complete redesign, it will be more in the interior. Exterior will still maintain its shape with changes to front and back, but it will be unmistakably a Taycan!
Great review, very knowledgable. It's a shame it'll mostly be bought as a company car. You'd have to be unhinged to fund one of these as a private purchase, given the catastrophic residuals. I was mildly surprised you only gave one line to this thorny issue, to be honest. Currently, on Autotrader, there are no less than 659 Taycans for sale, one of which is 3 years old with 30k on the clock, up for......£43k. That's class leading levels of depreciation; even the Audi e-Tron doesn't plummet the same, which is all a bit odd. I'm not sure that the enormous improvements in the Taycan - range, especially, shall equate to stronger residuals for this revised version. Alternatively, if it does, it could mean the first version residuals just keep going down further/ quicker. The days of a 30k Taycan might not be too far away.....which is a hell a lot of car for the money.
I was fortunate to drive a Sports Turismo recently. It was a year old example so not the revised model but I cannot say I was wowed. Ok I was driving it very carefully but it didn’t feel to have the instant performance that is the characteristic of most powerful EVs. It also was a rather wide car which mars your confidence to thread it down a windy road. I was rather surprised with some of the equipment omissions on what was well optioned car. Notably it didn’t have adaptive cruise control and the SatNav was not the best in the business. Possibly worth considering as a used buy, although you will have to really do your research on the huge number of options to ensure you can find a car that has the best value combinations, but this is probably a car for a person who has a garage of different cars for different purposes.
I have the 2023 Cross Turismo with rear axel steering. Just great for gravel roads, snow, alpine roads and long distance motorway drives. The cornering is awesome and the stability at high speeds (German Autobahn) is reassuring.
My 2.0 litre averaged 50mpg on a 400 mile round trip.I set the cruise to 76mph.It must have had malfunctions because now and again I was doing 120mph.Which leccy car can do this ?
Overpriced like all Porsche cars and prone to truly massive depreciation. Far better, more fun cars which are more practical than this. This will depreciate just as much as the Gen 1 version, or even more..
@@HedgeCCL That is probably for a 2019 base model, that one was 80K. that would be 50% deflation in 5 year. 10% a year is not a lot of depreciation. But 43K is still a good price, haven't seen those under 55K in Europe.
I’ve owned a one-year-old Taycan GTS Sport Turismo from new, and it’s simply the best car I own or have ever owned. Cannot wait until the facelift GTS is launched.
Great review covering a lot of bases, great engineering as always.
For competitors, what about the Ioniq 5N you raved about recently? I know not the same market place, badge nor efficiency and not as much sportscar.... roomy as a Cayenne in fact... but both appeal to driving enthusiasts. I know quite a few owners that were cross shopping* these or even owned one before. Also had a 997/991 owner in mine that was impressed by the car and the build....
*I was against a 2nd hand sport turismo, but really needed the added rear space of the 5 N, as you rightly point out the Taycan is realistically a 4-seater.
So the message is that this is a good car to buy for £60k after 4 years!
Exactly what I was thinking apart from I thought about £40k after three years. LOL
2-3 years * 😂 and yes
Great review, Bryan. Appreciate the nod to the RWD, fast enough edition. Even the base battery is plenty, when you consider the charge speeds. You shouldn't drive to Scotland without a stop so why waste battery material. I know the bigger battery protects resale, but we shoukd all be carefully choosing a forever car and driving them into the ground to make motoring closer to sustainable.
I agree. But the car has to obey.
I own a c63 touring with 62000 miles on it and albeit running perfectly smooth, i am scared of the costs coming at me soon (inspections, brakes, ...) and i am praying nothing breaks.
The front styling is a definite improvement. Thanks again for another great review.
Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment.
I got the Etron GT two years ago. Was a toss up between it and the Taycan. I think the Etron looks better but my choice was swayed by the C&S option on the Etron GTwhich made it cheaper than the Taycan with the same options. I’ll be renewing next year and am going to have the Taycan this time. Just got a change, as I’ve loved the Etron GT
Iv just had one on test from Porsche uk Sidcup and the 4s was phenomenal- but it’s too expensive new , as a normal guy buying it ( not for business use ) it’s too expensive to own considering depreciation from new , I’d possibly buy one from Porsche approved used but im still concerned about its residual value once Iv owned one . Porsche engineering and quality is a good step above bmw/ merc - biggest surprise for me with the Taycan test drive was just how low the car felt , it’s not a bmw 5 series rival it drives like a 911 revival .
This looks like an improved product. The price just keeps growing though. I'm worried about that.
Great review, if only they were closer to Tesla prices
A nasty looking car both inside and out!
to much money plenty of alternatives at more competitive prices also £56k for an out of warranty battery is a little off putting ,needs to have a very long warranty 4 m
e to even consider..
The warranty on the battery is 8 years.
Turbo GT 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Great review Brian. The range increase is a big factor and huge depreciation just means there are great deals on 6-12 month old gen1 cars. Does feel like a “proper” Porsche. Your initial cross turismo rev was a factor in test driving one. So thank you
Thanks to its insane depreciation, it will be my first Porsche ever. I can easily afford the use, tyres, inspections etc but never the 160k price tag.
But 60 to 70 i can do.
To get the best car I will have ever owned
You would need to be truly off your rocker to buy one of these new, or at all.
I’ve had a Taycan GTS Sport Turismo for one year, from new, and I’m waiting for the facelift to be launched so I can order a new one. The best car I’ve ever owned. Period.
The comment from Markymark suggests that he'd really like to be able to afford such a car and sounds a touch bitter that perhaps he cannot.
Most people who buy cars at this price point don't worry about small things such as depreciation. Mere bagatelle. They just enjoy their hard earned and they'll have plenty more cash where that came from.
Good for them. Jealousy is so 'yesterday'.
People with enough money to buy one will likely have the brains not to be so stupid as to buy one.
Zzzzzzz
@@geoffarceden facts are so dull aren't they :)
Indeed, but it's much better to be rich and dull than poor and dull eh? 😂
@@geoffarceden so long as you are binning your own money on this generation of EVs and not mine all is good :) I'm just not sure how you sleep at night being part of all that environmental waste and harm caused by these disposable vehicles :((
A great porsche, and an EV. Are you going to review the Macan E?
I certainly plan to, yes. As soon as Porsche UK have one on their Press fleet.
That charging box looks a right faff and it’s massive. The Ohme Pro is much better and cheaper.
Why is it a faff? Very simple to use.
@@AutoEV having to wrap up the cable every time, it’s just too big as well and too expensive.
It’s a refresh, not a redesign. You’re not going to get a drastic change! On top of that, Porsche don’t do drastic changes! When they do a complete redesign, it will be more in the interior. Exterior will still maintain its shape with changes to front and back, but it will be unmistakably a Taycan!
Great review, very knowledgable. It's a shame it'll mostly be bought as a company car. You'd have to be unhinged to fund one of these as a private purchase, given the catastrophic residuals. I was mildly surprised you only gave one line to this thorny issue, to be honest. Currently, on Autotrader, there are no less than 659 Taycans for sale, one of which is 3 years old with 30k on the clock, up for......£43k. That's class leading levels of depreciation; even the Audi e-Tron doesn't plummet the same, which is all a bit odd. I'm not sure that the enormous improvements in the Taycan - range, especially, shall equate to stronger residuals for this revised version. Alternatively, if it does, it could mean the first version residuals just keep going down further/ quicker. The days of a 30k Taycan might not be too far away.....which is a hell a lot of car for the money.
I was fortunate to drive a Sports Turismo recently. It was a year old example so not the revised model but I cannot say I was wowed. Ok I was driving it very carefully but it didn’t feel to have the instant performance that is the characteristic of most powerful EVs. It also was a rather wide car which mars your confidence to thread it down a windy road. I was rather surprised with some of the equipment omissions on what was well optioned car. Notably it didn’t have adaptive cruise control and the SatNav was not the best in the business. Possibly worth considering as a used buy, although you will have to really do your research on the huge number of options to ensure you can find a car that has the best value combinations, but this is probably a car for a person who has a garage of different cars for different purposes.
I have the 2023 Cross Turismo with rear axel steering. Just great for gravel roads, snow, alpine roads and long distance motorway drives. The cornering is awesome and the stability at high speeds (German Autobahn) is reassuring.
Great car. I'll start looking down the back of the sofa for any change that's fallen out of my pockets.
That Maserati is really a beastie car. Awesome Charging capability.
I would doubt hard between the two.
Great car
It really is.
My MX5 fills up in 2 minutes,OK they depreciate nearly a 1/3 rd ,£12,000 in 3 years.How much does this depreciate in 3 years ?
Loads like all luxury cars do. They are after all overpriced toys. MX5 isn’t remotely like this.
Another brilliant video - love the content, flow and balance of info and opinion. When will you be doing the new Audi Q6 e-Tron…..
As soon as Audi UK have one on their press fleet hopefully. Glad you enjoyed the Taycan video.
Nice video as ever. But this doesn’t tempt me away from Ioniq 5 N. Not mentioned in your comparisons I notice 😊
Different class of car. Would be comparing apples to Oranges.
very nice to see you back, when are wee going to see the iX2 ? to expensive its back to the BUS
Very soon! Twin test with a main rival coming next week…..
What AC charging speed does it have though?
22 AC charging should be the standard in every car.
11kW. 22kW capability is optional. I mention this in the video.
@@AutoEV Ah I see, I thought you were talking about the charger :) Thanks for explaining!
Do you really have to stop and do an advert for a charger on every review? M
I don’t do it on every review.
My 2.0 litre averaged 50mpg on a 400 mile round trip.I set the cruise to 76mph.It must have had malfunctions because now and again I was doing 120mph.Which leccy car can do this ?
Yawn……
What on earth has that got to do with a Luxury vehicle review. Get a life.
Overpriced like all Porsche cars and prone to truly massive depreciation. Far better, more fun cars which are more practical than this. This will depreciate just as much as the Gen 1 version, or even more..
Everybody is saying that Taycans are depreciating 80% in the first three years..... still looking for that 25K Porsche Taycan 2021.
Meanwhile, all the Porsche drivers are most surely enjoying themselves, and good for them I say.
@@buddy1155 It's currently 43k, that car....won't be long.
@@HedgeCCL That is probably for a 2019 base model, that one was 80K. that would be 50% deflation in 5 year. 10% a year is not a lot of depreciation.
But 43K is still a good price, haven't seen those under 55K in Europe.
@@buddy1155 2021 Performance with pano & bigger wheels, 30k miles.