@@BiblicalStudiesandReviews lots of error, 70 ad prophesy ends at Mat. 24:2. The rest is wars and rumors of wars for 2000 years. This generation is the generation that sees the tender branch (Israel born in a day in 1948 and put fourth leaves in 49).
@@rickhuntling7338 thanks for interacting. That was the view I held and taught for some time. How long do you think a generation is? The cool thing about your position is that it will be easily confirmed soon or falsified.
@@BiblicalStudiesandReviews Confirmed as it is written. Only the Father knows the day and the hour is a Jewish wedding tradition so verses 32-42 is the Rapture of the bride. You can't fit wars and rumors of wars, famines, pestilences, false christ into 40 years. Can you name a false prophet in the 40 years? I can name Mohamed in my 2000. After the Gospel is preached to the whole world will you see verses 15-31. Where are the saints gathered from in 24:31? My bible says heaven.
I was so confused growing in a Baptist church as a young child on these verses. It wasnt untill about 6 years ago, my eyes were opened to the partial-preterist position in the form of David Chilton's book, Paradise Restored (it can be found free online). Now I love this chapter as it shows without a doubt, the supernatural origin of the Bible and of Christ in his prophecy! He said that generation at about 30 or 33AD , so add 40 years (a biblical generation) is about 70AD. That's why 1 John and other books always said "the time is near", because they knew in the 60s, it was almost time.
This 40 year period (a generation), between the crucifixion/assention, and the destruction of the Temple/Jerusalem is practically alluded to in Hebrews chs. 3 and 4, Christ being the replacement for Moses, and history repeating, with only the "remnant" (explained in the Book of Romans) of Jews who had become believers having "entered that rest." From Pentecost to 70 AD, the church went from Jewish believers only, then Samaritan believers, next Gentiles, but at first, "Jew first, then the Greek," then finally "neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female," right up until 70 AD.
@@kylec8950 preterist and futurist are not good positions. I would look at the historicist perspective in trying to understand the bible. I never knew what historicism was until a couple years ago. I was only taught that there were only 2 perspectives, futurism and preterism, both are jesuit inventions made to take the focus off the papacy being antichrist.
Fantastic lesson! It's so nice to hear someone so clearly explain what I have come to believe over the years! Right on at every point! I absolutely agree and really enjoyed listening to you go through scripture and paint a picture of exactly what was happening back in 70AD and what Matthew 24 etc are really talking about! I grew up knowing nothing of this and never being taught anything like it but through studying and listening to others like yourself as I've gotten older I've come to learn what I believe to be the truth (partial preterism) and it has really opened my eyes and helped me to understand God's word so much better and on such a deeper level. It really is refreshing and a relief when the pieces all fit together and things makes so much sense! I too struggled with understanding all of this for quite some time but I am so thankful for the understanding I have now! Thank you for sharing! I will definetly subscribe as I look forward to watching more of your videos! I really enjoy your style of teaching! It is very clear and to the point and all based in scripture! I really appreciate you taking the time to make videos like this, it's so affirming to me and I'm sure so eye opening and helpful to others! Keep doing what you're doing! God Bless!
It amazes me how people twist and misinterpret the Good Book. You are calling Jesus a liar by saying he is about to return, when in reality he returned in 70AD just like we are told several times in scripture. ua-cam.com/video/LFmXVMh8hb4/v-deo.html We are now POST Millennial Reign in the LITTLE SEASON of Satan from Rev. 20. He has certainly gone forth to DECEIVE the NATIONS. Also, the sun does not flip - we are in a closed system, the earth is fixed and immovable just like scripture tells us it is. Stop trying to complicate things - it's all rather simple if you read the Word of God like it is intended to be read.
Thank you for doing this video and thank you for your charitableness. Charity is in sorry supply these days when talking about this topic. You've given me a lot to think about.
THANK YOU for explaining the whole "The sun will not give its light and the stars will fall from the sky" passage. That has tripped people up over and over again.
Thanks for this video. You shared a lot of really good information and insights. It is so important to take any portion of scripture in it's context, while also keeping in mind the whole Bible is one story. While I probably would have said I came to the same conclusions as you, I wouldn't have been totally confident or as well able to articulate all of this. I think the highest commendation I can give you, is that after watching this I want to get my bible about and read through all these passages again and make some helpful notes about all the connection. Thanks again!
Good fallacy for fools. truth is not available from a God who isn't. SDA 35 YEARS and fooled with any decent Manwho realy knows what is happening here. your more likley in for money and fool people giving them faults hope.
This was soooo helpful! I have been interested in partial preterism due to the "this generation" line for a while, but this really helped me to understand and flesh out the details. The Son of Man coming on the clouds TO the Ancient of Days blew my mind!! Thanks so much.
Funny how when we allow the Bible to interpret itself, and understand passages from a first century view, things magically fall into place and make a lot more sense. The only challenge is for one to embrace what is shown (proven) to be true. Well done my brother.
Its not hard to understand that the bible is written during the time and from the perspectives of the men who were alive in their time. For whatever reason, God knows, there was meant to be 2000 years in which the gospel would go out into the world, until the times of the gentiles are fulfilled. We know Christ is going to return, John was given an entire books worth of prophecy concerning this revealing of the Lord. The entropy that happened to Israel, the dogmatism, the complacency, all of it, has likewise happened to the church, and the church must be cleansed, judgement begins in the house of God, according to scripture. Christ will bring the church through the fire, and every Christian will get a chance to demonstrate where their faith resides. Those who would lose their life for Christs sake will find life eternal. Even a cursory glance at the events in the world show the exact unfolding of the events we were warned would take place. There wont be any question when it happens either, prophecy is understood by its fulfillment. All the speculation about how everything will unfold on earth is just that, speculation, but as that day approaches, there wont be any confusion or question about the identities of the figures mentioned in Revelation.
@@CryoftheProphet Things in Rev.began in 70 ad they didn't end in 70ad. The white horse was Rome in 70 ad. The other three are the three covenant curses YHWH uses to keep them in exile 1878 years. The 4 horses were put in there stalls in 1948.
You’re exactly right. We need to accept what is proven. It’s the Bible, and physical evidence. The physical evidence of Christ’s 1000 year earthly kingdom is all around you. Unless you believe in ancient aliens, only the kingdom rulers could (and would) have built castles with no bathrooms, star forts (like the one in the Florida keys with 16 million bricks), cathedrals, etc. you’ve been deceived because you live in revelation 20, the age of deception.
All of the biblical evidence points to a Full Preterist view. I have watched my fellow brothers in Christ wrestle with the principle of Audience Relevance. It brings back memories of my days before accepting the exclusive and multiple imminent time statements. Jesus, every inspired writer, and the original audiences all expected the coming of Christ at the end of the age to occur in their generation. We are required to take the overall context into consideration when determining our understanding of biblical eschatology. One of my favorite passages that demonstrates the first century coming of Christ at the end of the age is James 1:1; 1:18 & 5:1-9: James 1:1 “James, a bondservant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, To the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad: Greetings.” James 1:18 “Of His own will He brought us forth by the word of truth, that we might be a kind of firstfruits of His creatures.” James 5:1-9 “Come now, you rich, weep and howl for your miseries that are coming upon you! 2 Your riches are corrupted, and your garments are moth-eaten. 3 Your gold and silver are corroded, and their corrosion will be a witness against you and will eat your flesh like fire. You have heaped up treasure in the last days. 4 Indeed the wages of the laborers who mowed your fields, which you kept back by fraud, cry out; and the cries of the reapers have reached the ears of the Lord of Sabaoth. 5 You have lived on the earth in pleasure and luxury; you have fattened your hearts as in a day of slaughter. 6 You have condemned, you have murdered the just; he does not resist you. 7 Therefore be patient, brethren, until the coming of the Lord. See how the farmer waits for the precious fruit of the earth, waiting patiently for it until it receives the early and latter rain. 8 You also be patient. Establish your hearts, for the coming of the Lord is at hand. 9 Do not grumble against one another, brethren, lest you be condemned. Behold, the Judge is standing at the door!” Jesus and every inspired apostle taught a first century second coming. The evidence establishes the trustworthiness of each one of them. At Christ’s first century coming the New Covenant heaven and earth kingdom was established forever at the passing of the old. Everything between Rev. 1:1-3 & Rev. 22:6,10 was fulfilled as John prophesied. He informed his first century audiences of “things which must soon take place…for the time is near.” He made this clear with the following words: Revelation 1:19 (YLT) “Write the things that thou hast seen, and the things that are, and the things that are about to come after these things” Our eschatology is entirely dependent on the true context given by the Father through His inspired apostles. Let God be true and every man be a liar.
@@BiblicalStudiesandReviews When the True Messiah Reigns, the Glory of YHVH is going to be literally appearing and covering the earth. Mt. of Olives will split in two, and the Messianic Age will ensue. The Glory of YaH as the Whirlwind of Fire, the Cloud of Glory, and the Shekinah Glory is going to be the Light on earth, instead of the sun. The True Messiah is going to be a Glory flyer ascending upon the Whirliwind of Fire, and the Cloud of Glory into the Throne Room of Heaven, but on earth. Mathew 24:30, all tribes and nations didn't mourn and see Him ascending into heaven, nor coming down in a cloud. You can go directly to Abba YaH without any mediator. You can have perfect inner peace in your belly (heart labe in Hebrew or bowels) that gets rid of all inner jitters and butterflies in your belly, inner joy, inner loving-kindness, heaven on earth without needing anyone named Yeshua - Jesus - Iesou. Just copy heaven on earth by His Spirit until the Glory of His Presence literally appears. Not sinning, continually praying, continually praising YaH, dancing, celebrating, magnifying, glorfiying, and bowing down to Him until you literally see the Whirlwind of Fire, the Cloud of Glory, and even the Radient Energy Light Glory. Then continue copying heaven on earth to keep it. It does help to do 16-hour to 72-hour holy gatherings to copy heaven on earth with others ascending into His Throne Room super close to Him. Sabbaths are 16-hour to 72-hour holy gatherings, so everyone copies heaven on earth, getting rid of all worldly distractions to ascend upon wings like the eagles in higher dimensions; like the 4th dimension (the space time continuum) by eating from the Tree of Life. Heaven on earth is the Garden of Eden. Just try singing Hallelu YaH for six-hours by yourself, clapping, whistling, ringing tambourine, dancing, and getting close to Him without going through anyone named Jesus and see for yourself. It's fine to take an hour break after 3 hours of praise too, Selah in Hebrew means Break or Pause and also part of copying heaven on earth. Don't be surprised if the Cloud of Glory (Fog) appears in your home, It's Fire of Love. It's what Shem and Yaphet, sons of Noach did, copying heaven on earth. Shem was Melech Tsedek, King of Salem, who taught Abraham, Issac, and Jacob how to get back into the Garden of Eden to eat of the Tree of Life (Eternal Life). Shem lived 600 years old, and so he lived even during the time of Jacob. The Greek BIble says Abram tithed to Melech Tsedek, but it was Melech Tsedek who blessed Abram and brought forth bread and wine (tithes is food, clothing, and shelter; not money). The Hebrew Bible has Melech Tsedek giving the tithes. Abram(ham) was a sojourner, so he was worthy to receive tithes in his time of need after the battle. I'm sure he gave tithes to all the mighty men of valor as well, they would have been hungry, tired, and worn out, so the King of Salem would have most indubitably helped them out as well; even though it's not written.
Very well structured and presented! I had previously been convinced of the cosmic signs as representing the fall of nations. However, your point about Daniel 7 and Jesus coming on the clouds of heaven brings all the pieces of this puzzle together. Thank you and Lord Bless! :)
"As spoken of by Daniel the prophet, whoso readeth (the book of Daniel) let him understand" Jesus tells us this in the same chapter and in Mark's corresponding chapter (14). And he means it. Let the reader of the book of Daniel understand. And yes, those words were spoken by Jesus. They're not a gloss from the human authors
@@AnHebrewChild what was the abomination in 70 ad that caused the desolation? I'm waiting for it any day now. When you see zealot Jews errect an Ezra three altar on the Temple Mt. and atempt an animal sacrifice, run don't look back if you are in Judea.
@@BiblicalStudiesandReviews Paul was unpopular to the rabbis. Can you explain away Lk. 21:24 fulfilment in 70 ad? I read desolations of Jerusalem, remaining desolate unti the dispensation of the "time of the Gentiles be fulfilled aka age of the Church.
If you believe that the 2nd coming of Christ is still in the future; then you simply do not believe the very words of what Jesus said. Its really that simple. You are living by what you see in the world, and not by faith in what the God in flesh man said! Sorry, but I must defend the word of God here. The integrity of God's word is in question here and must be defended!
I think you have been deceived by the myriad of false bible versions. If you an open mind and are willing to go where truth leads, youll at least want to listen to this. If you still think its nonsense, then sadly nothing can show you will change your mind. ua-cam.com/video/eZs9PegP1YA/v-deo.html
@@JohnnyCashOriginal Your KJV bible says that Jesus said that some of his disciples would not taste death before his return. If you don't believe your own KJV, then I can't help you.
What scriptures do you use to support the 2nd coming to be in our future if there are scriptures that we take to have happened during the 1st century? I think that it would be very hard, if not impossible, to decipher scriptures that would support a future coming.
Very well represented exegesis of Matt.24. I have believed in the partial preterist position for years and I feel a certain vindication. Very much appreciate this message.
About Matthew 24, the Greek word used for "pass" in these verses is "παρέλθῃ" (parelthē), which can also be translated as "enter into" or "pass into." This broader range of meanings allows for an interpretation that the generation would not enter into or experience the fullness of the fulfillment until all the described events are accomplished. Similar to how Israel could not pass the wilderness trial and had to wander for 40 years and fail to enter God's promises, the first century Israel failed to enter into God's promises for them by rejecting Christ and his apostles and thus were sent to wander for 2000+ years until a future generation is able to pass God's requirements through faith in the Messiah. This understanding explains why the first century Israel did not pass, but failed to pass, and thus awaits future fulfillment. However, given that the generation of Israel was poised in the first century to have the potential to receive Jesus Christ and usher in the kingdom on Earth had they received Him (Acts 3:20), the events described in Matthew 24 may have begun to take place, but not everything did. Certainly God's elect were not gathered from the four winds (Matthew 24:31) and Christ did not appear with great glory to cause all the nations on earth to mourn (Matthew 24:30), which corresponds to Revelation 1:7 “every eye will see him, even those who pierced him; and all peoples on earth will mourn because of him." Those that pierced him, as per Zechariah 12:10, are the nation of Israel collectively, and this is clearly speaking about the 2nd coming of Christ, which no Christian should try to argue is a historical event, as we are still waiting the coming of the Lord and our gathering together unto him. 2 Thessalonians 2:1 "Concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to him (our blessed hope), we ask you, brothers and sisters, not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by the teaching allegedly from us-whether by a prophecy or by word of mouth or by letter-asserting that the Day of the Lord (book of Revelation, nightmare on earth) is at hand." If those who preach 70 AD are correct, then the Day of the Lord (destruction of Jerusalem?) was absolutely at hand when Paul was writing. However, the Day of the Lord, which is what Joel speaks of in Joel 2, is what Peter quotes in Acts 2 explaining to the Jews what is happening. However if you read Joel 2 carefully it says starting in verse 27 "Then you will know that I am in Israel, that I am the Lord your God, and that there is no other; never again will my people be shamed. “And afterward, I will pour out my Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your old men will dream dreams" So the fulfillment of Joel 2 happens after Israel is reconciled fully to God and are never again put to shame. The nation of Israel was put to horrific shame in 70 AD and God is not presently dwelling with Israel in their midst, as Israel has forsaken God and rejected His Messiah and spent 2000 years in scattered exile and judgment. Joel 2 was about to come to pass in the first century, the beginnings of it were evidenced by the pouring out of God's Spirit, but the fulfillment of it did not take place in full in the first century, but was postponed to a future generation. Peter, acknowledging that people will scoff at this idea says: 2 Peter 3:4 They will say, “Where is this ‘coming’ he promised? Ever since our ancestors died, everything goes on as it has since the beginning of creation.” Peter goes on to explain that if you want to understand the longsuffering of God and why these events did not take place; 2 Peter 3:15 Bear in mind that our Lord’s patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him. Paul's letters explain why God did not bring upon the nation of Israel in the first century the completion of their prophesied end times, because Israel fell (Romans 11:11). God will not bring about the fulfillment of the promises made to that nation until they are good and ready to receive all that God has for them, and that begins by them acknowledging Jesus Christ as their Messiah. So the obstinance and refusal of Israel has benefited the world for 2000 years, putting a pause on Israel's prophetic program until "the fullness of the Gentiles be come in" (Romans 11:25). Then God will return to dealing with the covenant nation and save Israel "as it is written" in the scriptures of the prophets and as Jesus himself said would happen.
" This generation shall not ENTER INTO, till all these things be fulfilled"????? A great thing about Preterism is not having to deal with all the futurist gibberish and torture of the Bible.
@@jamesreed5678 This generation will not enter into (the kingdom) until these things be fulfilled. These things were not fulfilled, therefore, that generation did not enter into the kingdom, similar to how the original generation that came out of egypt were forbidden to enter into the land, and a new generation had to take their place. Their ability to enter into the kingdom was conditional upon them receiving their Messiah, which they did not, but a future generation will. Preterists can not deal with this verse: Peter preaching to israel in Acts 3:19 says "Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord; so that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord, and that He may send the One having been appointed to you, Christ Jesus, Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began." When Israel finally repents, that is when Jesus Christ will be sent to Israel to fulfill the promises of the prophets to that nation. Israel did not repent in 70 AD, and they did not have the kingdom restored to them, and therefore, this awaits a future fulfillment.
Well spoken. A few other things to possibly include in study: the parable of the fig tree - OT allegory for Israel... was being prophesied/warned of it's destruction, (cursed it for no fruit) but when it sprouts again, I've looked at this as when Israel became a nation again (pretty miraculous). Matt 16:28 Could this be speaking of John, who didn't die until he saw 'Revelation'? The word 39:16 G1074, sometimes interpreted as 'generation' can also, when talking about a collective people group at the time of that conversation, be 'race' or 'this people' - something to consider. Looking at it as it this way, then Jesus is guaranteeing that the He's will persist as a people group until His second coming. Echoing the promise in Jeremiah 31. Lol, not a100%, obviously, but something to consider.
POSITIVE PROOF OF A FIRST CENTURY RETURN OF CHRIST 1Thess 5:27 “I charge you by the Lord that this epistle be read to all the brethren.” Paul was adamant that those people in that congregation hear his words so there would be no misunderstanding what their Apostle from the Lord was telling them! Paul considered this letter that important. 1Thess 4:15-18 “For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep.” It was Paul's perspective that some of those persons, the “we,” hearing the words in his letter would be alive when the event was to occur. The commonly-held rule in interpreting English texts is to equate the pronouns to the original recipients of that text, unless the text says otherwise. 16 “For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first.” The context is clear; it was the coming of the Lord at the last trump! The last and final coming! 17 “Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord.” Paul knew, by Holy Spirit inspiration, that this very event was the one where those remaining alive people, the same “we,” would be gathered to Him. 18 “Therefore comfort one another with these words.” These comforting words could be comforting indeed, ONLY, if the described event occurred while some of THEM were still alive. Otherwise it would be meaningless to them. 1Thess 5:1-5 “But concerning the times and the seasons, brethren, you have no need that I should write to you.” Oh! Those persons in that congregation already knew what Paul was writing to them about, the 2nd and last final coming of the Lord. 2 “For you yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so comes as a thief in the night.” They knew it was coming upon that generation suddenly. 3 “For when they say, “Peace and safety!” then sudden destruction comes upon them, as labor pains upon a pregnant woman. And they shall not escape.” It would be a time of destruction that many would not be able to escape. 4 “But YOU, brethren, are not in darkness, so that this Day should overtake you as a thief.” HUH? It could overtake them? 5 “You are all sons of light and sons of the day. We are not of the night nor of darkness.” They already knew these things because Paul had taught it to them. THAT DAY of destruction and wrath, the coming of the Lord, and the gathering to Him of His Saints, being able to overtake THEM in the 1st century, was a total impossibility if it was in any other time but theirs! The possibility of that Day overtaking them did exist, if they, like many others, had been in the dark! And ONLY if it was to come while some of them were still alive! There is no way that the Apostle Paul would have said this to them unless that possibility existed. And that possibility only existed in their lifetime. There is your biblical proof-positive of THE first century return of Christ!
@@patricksmith3432 So lets get this straight. Are you saying that because you believe the coming of the Lord is yet future; and I believe that the bible teaches that the Lord has already came, based on the very words of Jesus; that that is a salvation issue? Where in the world do you get that Sir?
@@makarov138 So your thesis is that jesus christ is never coming back to save isreal let me get this straight thats what your proclaiming and there won't be a third temple let me just get that straight
@patricksmith3432 Sir, I think you have made Israel an idol like so many Christian Zionists. Your information is not coming from Scripture. It's coming from deceived and deceitful men and women who want your money and political backing. Zionism is not biblical because modern day Israel is not ancient Israel. Israel and it's OT sacrificial system ended in AD70. Please research the history of dispensationalism and Zionism. It will be a difficult discovery. But, you will be free to read the words of Christ and the apostles as they were written.
Those who believe in Christ are Israel regardless of genetic lineage. The Jews who were part of the Synagogue of Satan were punished in the first century AD due to their unrepentance and being guilty of the murder of Christ the Messiah. Those who today are referred to as Jews have no stake in the promise of God unless they repent and accept Christ, same as any other person. We are not waiting on a temple. The temple is the believer and God dwells in him. Sacrifice is no longer required because Christ was THE sacrifice. Denial that Christ is enough to cover sins, and refusing to be a temple for the Lord, is blasphemy of the Holy Spirit which is the unforgiven sin.
Wow, just when I think I've stumbled onto great earthshaking wisdom, I read the comments that throw me in nto such confusion that I don't even want to anymore. But I will hold onto to these lessons anyway and ignore the chatter. I do now believe in the fulfillment of the abomination of desolation at 70ad and am very motivated to look at Revelation in a fresh way. So the seals are open I'm thinking, but not the trumpets or bowls or the reign of the beast, roughly speaking. Sometimes you have to go backwards and correct mistakes usually passed on by people who do not understand, bf you can move forward again. God bless you for sharing 😇
Believing Him for sure.... take a look. You are deceived. PRETERISM DESTROYED "ALL these things" are not fulfilled and therefore Jesus has not returned as the cult of preterism falsely teaches. Take a look: "Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled. 35 Heaven and earth shall pass away (be renovated), but my words shall not pass away. 36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only." Matthew 24:34-36 So if all these things are NOT yet fulfilled, and they aren't, how could this be speaking of that generation and not a future generation? Impossible. "This generation" could not have possibly been the generation, the people Jesus was speaking to when He spoke these words. We know that because most of these things were not fulfilled. Did "the abomination of desolation" prophesied by Daniel happen in 70 A.D.? Nope. "When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)" Matthew 24:15 Did Jesus return on the clouds and take up His elect? Nope. Matthew 24:29-31 Were Christ's elect gathered today in 70A.D.? No. "Immediately AFTER the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other." Matthew 24:29-31 "ALL these things" Jesus is specifically speaking of in this passage/teaching are not fulfilled and thereby we know the preterists a cancerous cult that are misleading many (1 Timothy 1:19-20; 2 Timothy 2:18). They are the Hymaneus' of our day. If your "Jesus" has already come, He's "another Jesus" and not "the Almighty" who said "he cometh with clouds; and EVERY EYE shall see him." Has NOT transpired. He said that He's coming "in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory ... with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other." This is NOT happened. The fact that these things were not fulfilled in 70A.D. clearly reveals that preterism is heretical - because "ALL these things" did not come to pass in 70A.D. Future fulfillment.
Preterism opened up such clarity for me when it comes to understanding history in the biblical narrative. I’ve come to the conclusion that orthodox partial preterism along with optimistic amillennialism, is a proper view of eschatology.
Thanks for sharing and realizing this those same verses troubled me and I came to same conclusions which is why I am a postmil or a kingdom Jesus now Christian! Things will get better and they have and fact!
That was really good! How in the world, are you NOT a full Preterist. As a full preterist, you’ve helped me with a couple of points to make for a preterist point of view. Thank you!
Thanks for watching. I’m glad you enjoyed the video. I’ve made some videos on why I’m not a full preterist. I hope you’ll watch them. The titles might be a little provocative but I think you’ll find that I try to be fair to that position. Blessings
MT 24 MUST be read in the context of MT 23, for it is a more detailed telling of the very same event. The destruction of the old covenant world, Jerusalem and the temple and people, and the fulfillment of the new covenant "heaven and earth" or kingdom of God.
The "destruction of the old covenant world," did not take place in 70 AD, though! That took place in 30 AD with the crucifixion of Christ (He inaugurated the New Covenant...in His Blood, thus the old was overthrown). The destruction of the Temple and Jerusalem came as a result (@ 40 years after the crucifixion) of what happened during the 490 years of Dan. 9:24-27; specifically, Jesus and the Apostles fulfilling the last 7 years of the prophecy... Mt. 24 is NOT the place to begin a study of Bible prophecy, like the Preterists assert. That's NOT where the Bible begins; and we shouldn't either. *Soli Deo Gloria*
@@ryangallmeier6647 When the temple was destroyed, the Priesthood was destroyed, the instruments of worship were removed back to Rome, the city itself flattened, the physical Holy of Holys obliterated; THAT indeed was the end of the Old Covenant world. The crucifixion was the beginning of the New Covenant with that first Pentecost and the arrival of the Holy Spirit with supernatural manifestations. There was a 40 year period where the OT was declining and the NT was increasing. And by the way, if you want to start "where the bible begins," then go to Gen 1:1. But that's going to make for a rather long bible study!
@@ryangallmeier6647between 30 and 70 was the transition. Just like the Israelites were in the wilderness- they weren’t in slavery anymore but they also weren’t in the promised land yet.
Just discovered your channel. REALLY good stuff...MUCH appreciated. I didn't read all 1029 comments to see if anyone mentioned anything like this, but I'd like to add an observation. I find it very concerning that those to whom Jesus spoke to directly about these things are impugned as having "missed it", and completely misunderstand His clear words. "You" means YOU. "Shall" means SHALL. And "see" means SEE. It's not that hard if you let the word speak. I, too, as you, have come to a "now and THEN" fulfillment of all Prophecy. EVERY thing the disciples were looking for happened in some fashion. MUCH of what was prophesied will happen AGAIN in some form. Thanks for the great content.
@@donhaddix3770 here let me help you, The Book of Revelation are all of the prophets prophecies combined together first of all which means they are capitulation. Secondly right out of the gate the book tells you in Revelations 1:35 to read about were not future but were at hand during their generation. Now approaching Revelations we understand there are real letters sent to seven real churches in Asia Minor which means they are the target of the letters. Buy them simply not being here today is evidence in itself the prophecies have been fulfilled,.. Perhaps you should re-approach scripture and actually read it instead of repeating
@robertmcgee1771again with the mumbo jumbo that makes claim s without proof. for example, this is not historic, but future. Revelation 3:10 10 Since you have kept my command to endure patiently, I will also keep you from the hour of trial that is going to come on the whole world to test the inhabitants of the earth. Tereo ek tay-reh'-o Verb NAS Word Usage - Total: 71 1. to attend to carefully, take care of a. to guard b. metaph. to keep, one in the state in which he is c. to observe d. to reserve: to undergo something Ek ek Preposition NAS Word Usage - Total: 62 1. out of, from, by, away from harpazō 1) to seize, carry off by force 2) to seize on, claim for one' s self eagerly 3) to snatch out or away
Matt 24:21 For at that time there will be great tribulation, unmatched from the beginning of the world until now, and never to be seen again. Rev 3:10 ... the hour of trial that is going to come on the whole world to test the inhabitants of the earth. Rev 9:15 So the four angels who had been prepared for this hour and day and month and year were released to kill a third of mankind (2.5 billion people today). There have been many events worse than 70 AD and the worst is yet to come. The entire planet will be shaken, not just Jerusalem.
All human beings "know" and believe things based on the evidence and experience that we have encountered thus far in our lives. You made the statement that "I 'know' that the second coming of the Lord is still yet in our future." So my question then becomes; What in your training, experience, or evidence you have encountered, is your belief or 'knowing' of a still yet future coming of the Lord based on? Because the text says something different.
@@BiblicalStudiesandReviews If open graves is the thing you look for: Counterpoint! If that were the case; then how was it possible that Hymenaeus, Alexander, and Philetus, claiming the coming of the Lord and the resurrection had already occurred, were able to persuade some so strongly that they lost their faith, which the text plainly says they did, when there were still no open graves as evidence? 1Tim 1:20 and 2Tim 2:17. Meaning; open graves cannot be a sign of the general resurrection. Or, their still closed graves of their dead would have surely convinced those Thessalonians they were being played! That's ungetaroundable.
"Fear them not therefore: for there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; and hid, that shall not be known. What I tell you in darkness, that speak ye in light: and what ye hear in the ear, that preach ye upon the housetops. And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. Are not two sparrows sold for a farthing? and one of them shall not fall on the ground without your Father. But the very hairs of your head are all numbered. Fear ye not therefore, ye are of more value than many sparrows." (Matthew 10:26-31) I read this the on the day of my baptism 37-years ago. When i finished reading the passage the Pastor asked me if that was all I had to say, and since I had no idea what was expected from me, I began to think of what to say as I did that, I could hear myself say, "Jesus is my Lord and Savior." That was the best day of my life.
How do we go from all the things surrounding the destruction of that temple in 70AD being fulfilled “in that generation”: and then the “Immediately after the tribulation of those days, and the “coming” (parousia, a noun) of the Son of Man, and the gathering of the elect from the four winds in MT 24:29-31 happening thousands of years later? I though “immediately” meant far less time than that!
I don't know how to express my appreciation for your lecture. You saved me from my confusion about 'this generation' and enhanced my understanding of the scripture. Again, it really helped me. God bless you.
@@BiblicalStudiesandReviews I think you are on the right path, but as far as I can see you miss something very significant. Whenever Jesus spoke about "this generation" he never referred to it as a lifespan. He spoke about the _type_ of generation it was - an evil and disbelieving generation, a wicked and adulterous generation, a generation that is like children calling out to each other and being hypocritical. You pick this up and understand that it is referring to the scribes and Pharissses. That's good, because that is exactly what Jesus is referring to. But what you miss is that in Matthew 23 Jesus shows us how "this generation" is a lineage, or genealogy, rather than a period of time. Notice what he says in the seventh and final "woe": "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You build tombs for the prophets and decorate the graves of the righteous. And you say, ‘If we had lived *in the days of our ancestors,* we would not have taken part with them in shedding the blood of the prophets.’ So you testify against yourselves that you are *the descendants of those who murdered the prophets.* Go ahead, then, and complete what your ancestors started!" (Matthew 23:29-32) Here, we see that the context of what Jesus is talking about is the _ancestry_ of the scribes and Pharasees - one that started with their descendents AND, with them included, has a continuation! The fact that this generation will continue is important. Now read carefully the next passage: "You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell? Therefore I am sending you prophets and sages and teachers. Some of them you will kill and crucify; others you will flog in your synagogues and pursue from town to town. And so upon you will come all the righteous blood that has been shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah son of Berekiah, *whom you murdered between the temple and the altar.* Truly I tell you, all this will come on *this generation.* The "generation" he is referring to are those who are the decendents of those who killed the prophets. These are not all the Jews, but a specific lineage. And notice also what he says to "this generation". He accuses THEM of killing Zechariah. How could "this generation" be a lifespan? None of the people he was speaking to were even born during the days of Zechariah! What Jesus is actually saying in Matthew 24:34 is not that he would return within a generation, but that "all these things" are going occur _BEFORE_ this generation passes away. That not only agrees with what we see today, it lines up with what we read in the book of Revelation which tell us that the very last thing to occur on the eschatological timeline is the second death - the total destruction of the wicked.
Decent intro to partial preterism. It can get pretty deep, deeper than most are willing to go. But, for more, check out Sproul, DeMar, and, for a really deep dive into full preterism, Don Preston.
A warning to all, full preterism is heresy from the get go.!! These people believe that the 2nd coming happened in 70 a.d. Nonsense!!!! What did happen, the apostates from Matt.23. got judged a generation after Jesus condemned them. That's judgement of one people, the renegade Jews who murdered Messiah, turned the temple into a den of theives, said straight forward with no apology , "we have no king but Caesar.!!! That was the end of the old covenant system. Not the end of the world!!! The new covenant in His blood was then ushered in. The substance of 70 a.d casts a long shadow throughout the new testament. Don't think for a second that the 2nd coming in always in vogue, it's not!!!!! 70 a.d. completely changed the immergence and speed of the new covenant in the Roman Empire and beyond.!!! That's why Jesus said go unto the Jews first. He knew they only had 40 years to get it right and they failed miserably. The clock was ticking and in 70 a.d. time ran out and 1.1 million apostate Jews bit the biz bag. Temple gone, city gone, country destroyed. Sacrificial system cast into outer darkness forever!!!! You can have your say but what I've spoken is the real deal. No way around it.!!!!!!!
@@MrMurfle who's Don Preston? Never heard the man but he tickeled your itchy ears. If it's debunked tell us the meaning of the parable pre 70 ad. By the way, how many false christ were there inside 40 years? How do wars and rumors of wars plus world wars fit inside the same 40 years? Could you give the historical records for these wars. Another puzzel how is it earthquakes in diverse places being detected in the 1st Century? So for example how can a quake in California be a sign in Israel for the 70 ad siege? These days we know of earthquakes minutes after they hit.
i really appreciate this. Good lesson. Im curious if you could provide videos or references on your partial preterist position. I don't define myself but i lean more towards full preterism because it appears that not only this passage, but all the other Revelation passsages seems to point to AD70. So partial preterists believe almost everything happened, (or all the judgements happened) but there is a physical second coming. Can you please give me a video or link or references? This is where i get stumped.
Several historians were alive during the 1st century such as josephus, tacitus and a few others. They all witnessed and described some pretty wild stuff during the siege of Jerusalem. One thing they described was a host of heavenly soldiers fighting up in the clouds, earthquakes and the temple doors opening themselves etc. I believe that Christ's second coming did indeed occur during that generation just as He said it would occur. Human history has always been shrouded in mystery and straight up deception.
Jesus said that every eye would see _him,_ not some heavenly host. What happened in 70 AD was merely a partial fulfillment of prophecy - something that exists in scripture. I can expand on that if you want, but most people don't like their views to be challenged so I doubt you are interested. But otherwise just let me know.
@@codyalexander3290 Sure Cody. No, there is only one second coming - if by second coming we are referring to when he returns to judge all mankind. But before I explain what I mean let's look at a few examples of partial fulfilments of prophecy so that you can see that it is a valid concept. First, we have a prediction that Joel made about the Holy Spirit: "And it shall come to pass afterward that I will pour out My Spirit on all flesh; your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions. And also on My menservants and on My maidservants I will pour out My Spirit in those days. "And I will show wonders in the heavens and in the earth: blood and fire and pillars of smoke. The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the coming of the great and awesome day of the Lord ... I will also gather all nations, and bring them down to the Valley of Jehoshaphat; and I will enter into judgment with them there..." (Joel 2:28-32-Joel 3:1-2). God inspired the apostle Peter to quote from this passage to describe events on the Day of Pentecost, when God founded the Church after Jesus' resurrection (Acts 2:14-21). Miraculous manifestations of God's power through the Holy Spirit did indeed occur then (Acts 2:1-13). But these were only the first fulfillment of Joel's prophecy. The ultimate fulfillment will come at the time of the end and will involve, among other things, the gathering of the nations to God's judgment in the Valley of Jehoshaphat. This did not occur on the Day of Pentecost. Then we have this: "He went to Nazareth, where he had been brought up, and on the Sabbath day he went into the synagogue, as was his custom. He stood up to read, and the scroll of the prophet Isaiah was handed to him. Unrolling it, he found the place where it is written: “The Spirit of the Lord is on me, because he has anointed me to proclaim good news to the poor. He has sent me to proclaim freedom for the prisoners and recovery of sight for the blind, to set the oppressed free, to proclaim the year of the Lord’s favor.” Then he rolled up the scroll, gave it back to the attendant and sat down. The eyes of everyone in the synagogue were fastened on him. He began by saying to them, *“Today this scripture is fulfilled in your hearing.”* (Luke 4:16-21) Now if you look at the passage Jesus was quoting from Isaiah we see that he actually stopped smack in the middle of a verse. The whole verse goes like this: "to proclaim the year of the Lord’s favor *and the day of vengeance of our God,* to comfort all who mourn" (Isaiah 61:2) Here we see that the day of vengeance was not fulfilled "today", as Jesus said, but is reserved for a later time (otherswise we would have consider Isaiah a false prophet). We also have the fact that before Jesus arrived on the scene, many Jewish "preterists" of their time believed that the abomination of desolation was fulfilled in the 2nd century BC. Antiochus had set up an altar to Zeus over the altar of burnt offering and sacrificed a pig on it. To them this prophecy was done and dusted and therefore could be ticked off the list. However, Jesus seemed to be convinced that this kind of thing would occur again some time in the future. As you can see this is a bit long, so I'll stop here for now so that you can take this all in before I continue. Let me know when you are ready, or if you have any thoughts about this so far. I think you'll find what I have to say very interesting, because it explains why there is so much confusion about this issue.
If you read it didn't say the generation of year 2000 wouldn't until these things be fulfilled. It said that generation would not pass that they were in would not pass until these things take place. We are not in that generation. It has passed. 😁
"A wicked and adulterous generation seeks a sign" A Christian is to walk by faith, watching current events is walking by sight....the bible can be used by our enemy as a script deceiving the unsuspecting
I must remind you that you will virtually never hear a pastor or preacher preach on this subject on a Sunday morning's worship service. Because that potato is way too hot for that. KUDOES to you for taking a slug at it!
These things seem to be deliberately taught incorrectly by the modern pastorship. I look to Jude a lot more lately. What we are mostly being taught about the Bible isn’t lining up with what the Bible actually says. As for the verse about “this generation shall not pass”, I tend to think it shows that the Jews of bloodline Israel will not fully embrace the Messiah before the final day. Sorry to disagree with you Schofield lovers. But yeah, the point must be made, is it the final Jew to come to GOD that signals the coming of the Son of Man? No. It’s the final Gentile who comes to GOD, that’s what the Bible says. GOD Bless ❤️
I don't know how I found your videos. I have been watching them tonight. I just found them tonight. Now I find your videos very interesting. You got me thinking of how I read the Bible. Keep making your videos. I may not agree with everything. You fired up my learning and eating to read the Bible again. The bible seems from what your teaching fresh new. God bless
I agree with your caveat that prophecy seems to have a near and far fulfillment. Almost like the first is a microcosm or demonstration of what is to come later. I’d be really interested to know what your thoughts are on the next event to watch out for on the prophetic timeline
Jesus said that his coming was in the lifetimes of some of those apostles. MT 16:27 "For the Son of Man is about to come in the glory of the Father with his Angels, and he shall repay every man for what he has done." So he was coming in vengeance on 1st century Israel. MT23: 38 "Your habitation shall be left to you as a wilderness." Total destruction of Jerusalem and the temple with all the people. And the timing of the event? MT 23:36 "Assuredly, I say to you, all these things will come upon THIS GENERATIO." A 40 year span of time as per Hebrew reckoning. (40 years in the desert until that generation died out.) And finally MT 16:28 "There be some standing here who shall not taste of death till they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom." The coming of Jesus occurred in the lifetimes of some of those apostles, or in other words, in THAT generation. Let God's word be truth! Because it is true!!
The seeing the so of man comming in his kingdom was fulfilled by the transfiguration on the mount, where the saw christ in his perfected body along side moses, and Elisha.
@@anthonypolonkay2681 WHO DIED? Jesus said only SOME of them would still be alive, meaning that SOME of them would have died. All were still alive that next week. Can't be that!!
@@makarov138 no. He said SOME of you will NOT die before you see the son of man commin omwith power. He didn't say some others of them have to die in order for the few to get to see it before they die. And that is exactky what happened. Only a few apostles got to witness the transfiguration On the mount. Aka before thier deaths. The rest of the apostles would not see such a sight until the second comming of christ which would obviously be far after their deaths.
@@anthonypolonkay2681haha, it's ridiculous to deny that the grass is green. imbecile sophist. Jesus clearly says, some would not experience death, there would be no need to say this for something that would happen days later, and the context is of death, of judgment, of them carrying their cross, of retribution according to works, there was none of that a week later, there was no son of man coming, there is no way to return from where you still are. STOP DENYING THE OBVIOUS
Wow this is wisdom right here. Thanks for this! Would love to see more videos of you expounding scripture in the future! Also do you think that the possible tribulation still to come would be even worse than ever before?
The darkening of the sun and moon can easily be referring to the smoke from all the fires from Jerusalem burning or as allegory referring to destruction in general.
Shalom Brother ! You are right, prophecies have dual fulfillment, in Matthew 24, Jesus talk about end times and of His second coming (Matthew 24.3), not about 70 AD, the scriptures are clear. 70 AD was only a foreshadow of what is coming soon : that Jerusalem = Mysterious Babylon, and the third temple will be destroyed at Tisha Beav as the first and second temple, by the islamic antichrist (Revelation 17.16), which Nabuchodonosor was a foreshadow (Daniel 2 & 3). Daniel 2 & 7, don't talk about Rome, but about Babylon empire, the kingdom who was and is not (Revelation 17.8-11), which fit perfectly with scriptures : Revived Empire = Babylon, Islamic antichrist = king of Babylon (Isaiah 14), and Mysterious Babylon = Jerusalem. As Acts 2.16 to 21 was a foreshadow of the true fulfillment of Joel 2.31-32, which would happen at the end times, at the six seal = Shavuot (Revelation 6.12), before Jesus come back from heaven at Yom Kippur. Be blessed, you and your lovely family, by the Name above all names, Jesus. Amen ! Hallelu'YAH ! Shalom
@@BiblicalStudiesandReviews Brother, I forgot to say that, in my understanding, Daniel 7.13-14 is link to the event = raptur, describes in (Rev. 11.15 to 18), before the Wrath of Jesus, cause Jesus go to the Ancient of Days with the clouds = saints (Hebrews 11 & 12), and we know that when Jesus come to raptur His church, there is no clouds (1 Thess. 4.16), but we will go with Him in the air (1 Thess 4.17), to be where He is = in the sky (John 14.3), but when Jesus come back, the clouds = saints, are with Him (Matthew. 24.30; Rev. 1.7; 19.7-8-14; etc....) Always a pleasure to share with you, I don't pretend to know the truth, except about that Jesus is God made Flesh, and die for ours sins, and risen in the third day. Hallelu'YAH ! Shalom my dear Brother in Christ.
@@Jus4kiks Shalom! Have you read Joel 2 ? If so, you would know that Joel is fulfilled before the Return of Yeshua/Jesus, it speaks of the Day of YHVH = the Wrath of God = that of Yeshua/Jesus. Peter quotes Joel as the Spirit descended upon them, who were 120 disciples, not all flesh, it was only a foreshadow of the fulfillment of Joel 2 at the return of Yeshua/Jesus. Koltov
I must say you did a great review of this topic! I do have a question though..How does the partial preterist typically view the rapture, second coming, Millennial kingdom? I'm curious because I also believed 70 AD was significant but still see a future second coming.
Partial preterists believe in a literal second coming of Christ. Most partial preterists are either post-millennialists or Amillennialists. There are some premillennialists. Most would not hold to a pre tribulation rapture.
Whether partial or full, I hope we can stick together to bring truth to the futurists who live in fear AND those who successfully tagged Jesus as a liar in court and completely discredited Him.
@Rick Huntling Hey Rick, Have you become a preterist yet? My former pastor who has an apologetics dispensational radio show told me in writing that regarding "God's Temple" in 2TH2: "One thing to call it that - another thing to be that." ... Nonsensical way of saying "The Bible has a big error in 2Th2."
@@johno2277 kJV has the error capping god and temple. The temple is in Mecca and the god is satan. Ezek 28 the prince of tyre did everything the son of predition will do without the 1st Temple standing. 2nd. Thess. 2:3 reads "the departure come first" no "a falling away. LOL I'm not dumb enough to be a preterist so it will never happen.
The tribulation WAS the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple complex. MT 24:21 "For there shall be great tribulation, such has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be." This was the time! The context of MT 24 is the destruction on the Old Covenant economy and covenant. There is no future tribulation! Verse v21 says so. Let God's word be true!
I'd suggest reading Zechariah 14 as the language seems very similar to Jesus Olivet discourse. It's interesting to note the prophets saw a coming Day when Jerusalem would be surrounded by nations and then subsequently those same nations overthrown by the LORD whose name will not be profaned by the nations anymore, and will set Himself up as King of all the nation. If Zecheriah 14 is what Jesus had in mind and saw Himself as the LORD who jusges and makes war as we see in Revelation. He has yet to stand on the Mount of Olives and split it in two. And Jerusalem has yet to be surrounded by nations with LORD winning the war, the King installed in Jersualem with those that survive coming up to Jerusalem for the Feast of Booths. There's more to what Jesus speaks about in Matthew 24 than I believe we recognize, myself included.
@@DM-xy9gd I'd suggest reading MT 23 first. Because it is there that we have confirmed what, why, and when that is the context of MT 24. In MT 23, Jesus is in the temple with his disciples foretelling to the Scribes and Pharisees the things which were about to befall them. He told them what was going to happen to them. He told them why it was upon them. The Saints and Prophets, from the beginning up to their present day, that they were responsible for their murders. God's vengeance was on them! He told them when; in this generation that he was staring into their eyes. And he even told them the final result. “Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.” The Greek there means a wasteland or wilderness. And the written annuls of history records that all of that actually happened in 70AD when the Romans came in and whipped it all out. THAT generation experienced that “tribulation.” When Jesus said “in this generation” he means HIS!!!!!! Jesus and the disciples came out of the temple, and they showed him the buildings. And in our vernacular he said “Don't you get what I've been telling them?” Not a single stone would be left on another of that temple. That occurred in 70AD. Proven historical account! Exactly like, when, and in the manner Jesus prophesied! Then Jesus told the things that would happen to some of them up to when “Jerusalem surrounded by armies,” or the “Abomination of Desolation” would arrive. That too has already occurred. And then it gets really serious. In MT 24:29 Jesus calls those days the “tribulation.” Was he wrong? Lets get to the crux of this. In verse 34, Jesus says that “This generation, (THAT one, HIS generation) shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.” “Heaven and earth shall pass away.” That old covenant system, the Mosaic age was about to be destroyed forever. And the coming of the Lord in vengeance upon THAT generation was the culmination of it. It all has already happened in the time and manner that Jesus foretold. Precisely like he said!
If you truly believe the abomination of desolation has occured then do you believe the Day of the Lord has come? If so, what do you make of the prophets Zechariah, Joel, Zephaniah etc. along with Revelation? They speak of a Day when judgment befalls on the nations with the King being set up in Jerusalem, a language being turned into a pure language for all the nations as well. Also, how do you make sense of the gathering of the elect spoken of in reference to the Day of the LORD by Jesus, Paul and the Revelator, John? If the abomination of desolation has come in fullness not in some partial sense then has this been fulfilled? “And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will kill with the breath of his mouth and bring to nothing by the appearance of his coming.” 2 Thessalonians 2:8
Full preterist is complete heresy from beginning to end. To believe the 2nd coming happened in 70 a.d.is a complete meltdown of Matt 24:30. Nothing to do with a 2nd coming!!! It's judgement targeted at one people, the renegade Jews from Matt.23!!!!! Matt.23:36 leaves no doubt who Jesus was talking to. And the ultimate culmination of all that Jesus spoke in Matt.23 was fulfilled in Matt 24. Not 2000 plus years later. The 2nd coming is still future to us. Don't allow yourselves to be bewitched by anyone who speaks a different message!!!!; Once again, full preterism is rank heresy. And futurism has to many leaks amid an ocean of conjecture.!!!!! Partial preterism has all of the pieces fitting into a eschatological framework that is unshakable. !!!!!!!
@@Arvak777 ATM I'm going with the eschatology that there are three comings of Christ and that it's the year 1023 and Satan was released in 1995 or the real year 995, bound at his birth around 5BC and Satan was chained a 1000 years, and now is loosed to deceived the Nations
Full preterism makes the most sense. Take the resurrection of the dead, if Jesus over came death for us all, why delay the resurrection for thousands of years?
One of the great realities of the Word is that it’s timeless. To say Matt 24 was for the Jewish Christian’s in AD 67 is very true and to say it’s for the end of times is also true. There is a tale that Christians escaped the Roman holocaust because of Matthew 24. God’s word is amazing in that is was and will be true. Jesus referred to the word being ever present by saying “Is written” not “Was Written”. One of those things hard to understand. it seems so contradictory to say “In the beginning was”(John 1) but Matthew 24 can and can never be dismissed as done in AD70. I am fairly convinced, we are evil enough to blow up the entire world, and when we do that, the sun in the moon will in fact go dark.
I would say something quite similar. I do think that Matt. 24 will again become relevant to the end time generation. I would say if you want to see how God will judge the world, look at how he judged Jerusalem in AD 70.
There is NO such thing as a jewish Christian. Jews follow THE TALMUD (ie THEMSELVES) and always have. Jews were satanic edomites NOT Torah-following Israelites. They were NEVER under the old covenant as they are not of Jacob! The same applies today!
"Then certain of the scribes and of the Pharisees answered, saying, Master, we would see a sign from thee. But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas: For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth." Matthew 12:38-40, KJV
Couldn't the Greek word "genea" be translated "race", as in the Jewish people. In fact I think that's the more literal meaning of the word. I tend to believe that Jesus was saying that the Jewish people would not pass away until his second coming. I haven't had time to watch the full video yet so if you addressed this in the video I apologize.
No worries. It’s a long video. I do give a line of reasoning in the video of why I think we should take the words to mean “this generation”. For more details check out this article preteristarchives.org/generation-means-race/. Thanks very much for your comment and watching!
Because very few people are interested in the allusion Jesus was making here. I am a bible scholar, I speak 5 languages, I can assure you the use of Genea here is not used in a plural context, therefore it really should be translated as descent Jesus was alluding to Jeremiah 31. So Jeremiah say the only condition for Israel ceasing to exist would be when star and the natural order of things are moved out of place. Jesus says the end comes exactly with his appearance which would do exactly that, make the hevenly bodies fail. Since Jesus spelled doom for israel in previous verses, he therefore felt compelled to ECHO the promise made by God thru Jeremiah reminding the apostles that even thought israel will be surrounded and suffer when temple is destroyed the nation will not cease to exist until all his words are fullfiled culminating with the stars failing to give light, reminding them the promise from the verse he alludes to in Jeremiah is still being upheld. Pay attention to the keyphrases in Jeremiah, Stars, moon, Sun, SEAS ROARING. This is what the Lord says, he who appoints the sun to shine by day, who decrees the moon and stars to shine by night, who stirs up the sea so that its waves roar- the Lord Almighty is his name: “Only if these decrees vanish from my sight,” declares the Lord, “will Israel ever cease being a nation before me.” Jeremiah 31:35-36 NIV bible.com/bible/111/jer.31.35-36.NIV This☝️up there helps you understand this down here👇 “There will be signs in the sun, moon and stars. On the earth, nations will be in anguish and perplexity at the roaring and tossing of the sea. People will faint from terror, apprehensive of what is coming on the world, for the heavenly bodies will be shaken. At that time they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. When these things begin to take place, stand up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near.” He told them this parable: “Look at the fig tree and all the trees. When they sprout leaves, you can see for yourselves and know that summer is near. Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that the kingdom of God is near. “Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened. Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away. Luke 21:25-33 NIV bible.com/bible/111/luk.21.25-33.NIV
Yes, Genea in this instance refers to the Jewish people, whos context and exposition in Mathew 24, Lk 21 is derived from Jeremiah by Jesus. In other words Jesus echoed the promise made that the only condition israel as a race will cease to exist is by the same condition presented in Jeremiah 31. This is why it was proper for Jesus to say the culmination of all things is with his comming which would do exactly that, shake the heavens. Since he spelled doom for israel he reassured them of what Jeremiah said, that only by the cancelation of the decrees of the natural order can the Genea of Israel pass away, or cease to exist, not by the romans, nor the persecutions mentioned by him, but only when he comes back, which is when the natural order will be shaken, thats why this GENEA will not pass away untill all is fullfilled, whos culmination is with the stars falling and sun, moon etc ceasing to give light, only then will israel cease to exist, but not before.
So if in light of Daniel 7, Mathew 24 presumes Christ's ascendancy, what are we left with regarding His return? We know He sits at the Father's side only until His enemies are under His feet. We can sense that storm gathering. Would you please consider an additional video speaking to the conditions of His return, that we can more safely assume, now that you have dispelled what they are not? Thank you. Appreciate you very much. Bless you, teacher.
I’ve been comparing the partial preterist view, with the futurist view, and have yet to draw a conclusion. It seems to me that a lot of puzzle pieces fit together amazingly well in the partial preterist view; if only we can force a few pesky pieces into place. On the other hand the futurists seem to know exactly where the pieces will fit, once they finally emerge. There are waiting for so many pieces to be created; I don’t see how they can be so confident in their conclusions.
The futurists appear to have all their ducks lined up but in reality they are failing in every category. They talk the talk, soooo where is fulfillment of anything. They say, oh it's all future. So with an answer like that they haven't proved anything!!!! This a game with them, pin the tail on the anti-Christ. It's purely newspaper eschatology with no real substance. Conjecture in it's truest form. That's why I never bought into the futurist nonsense. I am a partial preterist. In a world full of bad actors it's real easy just to label so and so but that once again is always conjecture. That is the futurists Achilles heel.!!!!!
@Susan Taylor The pieces have been falling together for the last 75 years for us "whoso readeth, let him understand". Rev. 12:1 fulfilled on Sept. 23rd 2017 in the heavens. Rev. 12:2 is the Children of Israel "woman" in travail with child "Nation of Israel. Rev. 12:3 another wonder. The constellation dragon, the 7 heads = Arab League of States "ALS", in its tail Ursa Minor where the swastika originated and Polaris making it visible 24\7. Rev. 12:4 "and his tail (swastika inside) drew (into camps an ghettos) the one third (6 million) of the stars of heaven (Jews Gen. 22:17) and did cast them to the earth (murdered and burned), and the dragon (Arab League of States) stood before the woman (children of Israel) who was ready to be delivered (Isa. 66:8) so to sdevour her Child (New born Nation of Israel) as soon as it was born (ALS attacked Israel the day it was born. Rev. 12:5 The manchild (Body of CHRIST) is Raptured before the 70th week of Daniel begins. Mat. 24:32 the parable is the birth of Israel with tender branch attacked but put forth leaves by defeating the ALS and exspanding its borders 2 fold in 1949. The generation that witnessed the birth will no perish until all these thing be fulfilled. For us those thing are the Rapture of HIS bride.
@@allthingsbing1295 then why was Rev. 12:1 sign fulfilled on 9\23\2017? The last time this happened in Virgo was 3973 bc. Why was the tender branch born a Nation in 1948 fulfilling Isa. 66:8 born in a day? That generation is still alive today in their mid 70s. HE prophesy 1\3rd of Jews would be murdered before the woman gave birth to the Nation of Israel. Most Preterist are like you, full of allegoric opinions with no scripture to back it up.
Thanks for well performed biblical teaching which was very inspiring to me. I do not know if you have some follow up teachings on that subject of the Olivet discourse. Well, if yes please provide me with related link.Further, you have mentioned on couple of occasions that you are not holding the full preterist view but that you believe in Jesus second coming in the future, nevertheless from so far made exposition I have not noticed any argument for that. Thus, could you please develop it a bit more I. E. what biblically holds you towards a kind of partial preterist view. It would much appreciated. Thanks. May the Lord bless you in your ministry.
Thank you. This is taking the words of Jesus seriously. A far better understanding of these verses than the dispensational approach which twists script to fit their point of view. Yes, Jesus is coming again in the future.
The little season , history being changed, and preterism are making a major resurgence on YT the last few months. It is very dividing and hard to prove ... Jesus said it would be like in the days of Noah. This was a world wide problem. Hope this helps.
Very good Bible study on Matthew 24 - that so many get wrong but brother you are spot on and I've never heard anyone bring out Jesus RISING to the Ancient of Days and being given all power and authority just as he said he had when he gave the Great Commission in Matthew 28 in fulfillment. I REALLY liked it and am going to right now listen to it for the 3rd time. Thank you so much for this and God bless you brother!
How do you know for sure he got it right? That is his interpretation to Mathew 24. Don't be in such a hurry, to jump in the boat. The great commission hasn't occur yet. If the great commission occurred, why didn't the 12 apostles left Jerusalem? Remember, the Twelve never left Jerusalem. The Twelve where preaching the kingdom gospel to Jews not Gentiles. Peter and the 11 never had a ministry with Gentiles..The only one that had a ministry with Gentiles, was Paul but he was preaching death, burial and resurrection..
the smartest get it wrong read it Mathew 24: Jesus said some of you deciples will be alive srtill. He didn'r even come 20 generations ago. the earth never had a demon from the sky and nobody's is approving what God Approved others wise they would be put in prison or death penalties. Gods soldiers Rewarded to kill off all the babie boys and own slave Molest Rape rthe little girls in NUMBERS: LEVITICUS: DEUTERONOMY: GENIUSES: MADE ME VERY SHOCKED AND UILL AS A seventh day Adventist . Empires also made the Practice Bible before the scriprtures (ROMULUS) on 2 baby boys brothers drifting down the river in rthe same basket moses did and suckling milk from a dirty wolf dog. Been Scammed by you snake oil bastards and especially you lying Apalogetics who won't last for this . I hoped for a true loving none manipulative creater who isn't a monsterous psychopath. People shouldn'tbefoolwed no matter what but I can't be a lying ass and stop drinking the cool-aid.
I’ve been studying this a lot specifically mark 13 I’m between the kind of reading of Wright and McKnight or the one of Robert H stein. But imma read Lenski,Garland ,Lane,and a book Gentry recommended Jesus and the future. I have to teach this to adults for church so I gotta be very prepared I think as this is a right thing and most of the church are dispensationalists.
@@trafficjon400 not sure exactly what you are asking I read most of the books I mentioned in the comment , but still some unresolved spots in the text I’m unsure of how to deal with. The text is tricky as two which parts are about which times most readings seem some as nearish to the prophecy and some far , but as to which parts much debate abounds a lot of this depends on how one understands the apocalyptic and world ending type language some argue for more national type readings and relate it to stuff in the Ot where nations seem to be see as celestial bodies others see it as more literal . A school thought also just sees it as a failed prophecy I talked to Dale Allison about this before and that seems to be his view that no interpretation can hold up to what the text says.
Can a Apologist be Honest ? of course not and what is a couple of meanings half to be a million words just like the scriptures to frustrate and corrupt the later day's . but the honest educated are here today knowing why the Empires started the big Book practicing ROMULUS of 2 baby brothers using Moses Basket Floating down his river Suckling milk from a dirty wolf dog? then 100 years finally the Scriptures book so long Man will never get the nack or know it fully as it decided Moses would make much better story sense. ringed a big bell in my head as an SDA for 40 years around. Mark 13 a spit with out context but in context Contradicts galore through out the Book only Smart Educated wise Collage students notice after praying many times. they read it correctly turning instant none believers of the book . then you get the hypocritical who don't know jack from the Book and call decent hardworking caring people, the heathen sinning hell makers. this will be stopped some day I pray if a loving honest Creater i hope Exist..@@transatlanticwhirlwind7589
Good work brother!!! The word you are looking for to describe the partial fulfillment of the first century vis-à-vis the 2nd Coming, is that what happened in the first century was a ''Type'' of what is yet to come during the future 2nd Coming... God bless!!!
Do you have any scripture proof of another second coming of Christ and a second resurrection in the future? The 70 AD resurrection is obvious and scriptural, but there is no mention of another resurrection in our future.
At about 19:48 talking about the sun and moon and stars being obscured (Isaiah and Ezekiel) as a cosmic event, which would indicate it being a world wide phenomenon, would it make more sense that the prophetic word places the point of view for the reader in the actual city being destroyed, and the smoke, ash, soot and haze emanating from the destruction of the city would from that vantage point certainly obscure the heavens.
About Isaiah 10 and Ezekiel 32 which he references....what I see in these passages is that Babylon and Egypt are symbolic of the wicked of all ages, not strictly the literal nations.....what I do see as literal is the 2nd coming of Christ referenced in both passages....as I do in Matthew 24:30-31.
I really liked this diff viewpoint. I don’t see how they saw Jesus coming on the clouds though. - do you have any videos or examples of the “already and not yet” or partial fulfillment idea that supposedly arises from scripture at other points.
@@travisnorton9097 I see that as apocalyptic language as in Isaiah 19:1. Judgment language. Just as Egypt didn’t literally see him coming in cloud. But he nevertheless did come in cloud symbolically speaking.
@@BiblicalStudiesandReviews There was also one similar in Micah 1:4. I really like the viewpoint. But I can't find where you would take the viewpoint of Jesus 2nd coming if you hold to that view. Do you believe in a late writing of Revelation and hence hold to a 2nd coming later ? I'm honestly just curious. Not trying to "gotcha" you or anything.
@@travisnorton9097 I think there are a number of unfulfilled passages that deal with Christ’s return. I take an early date for Revelation. I see the millennium as a long stretch of time not a literal 1000 years. I see it starting at 70 AD and terminating at the return of Christ. I see AD 70 as a sort of dress rehearsal for what lies ahead at the end of our age. That’s why much of the language about both events is similar. The end of gentile times will be very similar to the end of the Jewish era.
Is Daniel 7 not referring to Christs ascension? For it is here that He was returning to His Father "The Ancient Of Days" and it is here that He declared that all authority had been given unto Him.
This verse (Matt.10:23) is speaking of persecution. “When they persecute you in this city (Jerusalem) glee to another...” The apostles would not have gone that he cities of the land fleeing persecution before Christ returned = the second coming. Which proves He came in AD 70, at the fall of the city. Matt.24:34.
@Apple Eyes "only the father knows" and "thief in the night" are Jewish wedding sayings. The son proposed to his bride (Gospel heard and accepted) HE goes to prepare a place for her (Jn. 14:1-3 many mansions) only the father knows the day and hour when it is time to say son go get your bride. HE comes to her place of waiting like a thief in the night to snatch away HIS bride where the many mansions have been prepared in the fathers estate.
In about AD 30 Jesus said no one knew the day or hour, not the angels or even the Son, only the Father. Who inspired the subsequent writers of the New Testament? Wasn’t it the Father? The Father, through the Son, inspired the apostle John to write the Revelation of Jesus Christ, correct? What was John told to write to the seven first century churches? Here are some samples of the time statements the Father gave to the seven churches existing in John’s day: Revelation 1:1 “The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show to his servants the things that must soon take place. He made it known by sending his angel to his servant John” Revelation 1:3 “Blessed is the one who reads aloud the words of this prophecy, and blessed are those who hear, and who keep what is written in it, for the time is near.” Revelation 22:6 And he said to me, “These words are trustworthy and true. And the Lord, the God of the spirits of the prophets, has sent his angel to show his servants what must soon take place.” Revelation 22:10 “And he said to me, “Do not seal up the words of the prophecy of this book, for the time is near.” Revelation 1:19 (YLT) “Write the things that thou hast seen, and the things that are, and the things that are about to come after these things” Notice John was not given prophecies for the distant future. He wrote of things that must soon take place because the time was near. In 1:19 he was told to write about past, present, and things about to come. The Father was the only one who knew the day and hour in AD 30. By the time AD 60-70 came He had revealed the imminent time of the end to every inspired apostle and their audiences. Trust the exclusive and imminent time statements given to the first century audiences. The Father knew exactly how to communicate to His people living during the last days of the Mosaic age. We live in the prophecied Messianic age. Biblical eschatology has been fulfilled.
By about AD 60 had anyone been informed of the coming day and hour that was previously only known by the Father? Peter wrote to those of the twelve tribes dispersed among the nations. He informed them: 1 Peter 4:7 “The end of all things is near; therefore be self-controlled and sober-minded for the sake of your prayers.” James wrote to the same dispersed tribes: James 5:7-9 “Be patient, therefore, brothers, until the coming of the Lord. See how the farmer waits for the precious fruit of the earth, being patient about it, until it receives the early and the late rains. 8 You also, be patient. Establish your hearts, for the coming of the Lord is near. 9 Do not grumble against one another, brothers, so that you may not be judged; behold, the Judge is standing at the door.” James told them to be patient and wait until the Lord comes. He then said His coming was near, He was standing at the door. (Read Mt. 24:32-34 with these verses in mind). Had John been informed about the time of the day and hour? 1 John 2:18 “Children, it is the last hour, and as you have heard that antichrist is coming, so now many antichrists have come. Therefore we know that it is the last hour.” He taught his audiences that they were living in the time of the last hour based on the signs they’d observed. What about Paul? Romans 13:11-12 “Besides this you know the time, that the hour has come for you to wake from sleep. For salvation is nearer to us now than when we first believed. 12 The night is far gone; the day is near. So then let us cast off the works of darkness and put on the armor of light.” He reminded the Roman church that they knew the time, the hour of the resurrection had come, salvation was near, and the day was near. It’s pretty obvious Paul had received revelation from the Father about the previously unknown day and hour. And they were near for him and his audiences. Trust the inspired time statements.
Sound theology and eschatology comes from correct exegesis and hermeneutics of Sacred Scripture. May we learn to let Scripture speak for itself. Knowledge of Old Testament language is indeed necessary in understanding our Lord's words in Matthew 24. And you did this clearly in this video, Brother! Thank you for sharing! God bless you!
Since the scriptures teach that the coming of the Son of Man in his kingdom would occur while some of his Disciples were still alive, (MT 16:28 & MT 10:23); what scriptural authority do we have for waiting and anticipating for a yet future coming?
@@BiblicalStudiesandReviews how do humans get into Heaven? In a physical or spiritual body? If we believers are immediately in His presence when we leave our bodies Surely that is Resurrection ~ The Lifting/Raising Up! We are made by God to be like Him! God is Spirit! Not a man. (Physical) Jesus returned to Divine Spirit and fills The Heavens! No mind has conceived what God has for us! 🧐 So Obviously not what we already are and know!
@@BiblicalStudiesandReviews This is the futurist error, imposing their idea, a view, on what something looks like and then saying it has to be the future because they haven't seen their view happen yet. There's nothing in the Bible to suggest the resurrection would be a long time in coming. As Christ completed his work, there's no reason for the resurrection to be a long time in coming. In the resurrection, we'll have heavenly bodies, which implies the Earth won't be our place of residency after the resurrection, which means we shouldn't expect to see the resurrection of people who have already died even if they have been resurrected.
@@P.H.888the angels are spirit also and have a body, and Daniel describes God , the Ancient of Days , He has a body, because of it you have a body, you ve been made in His image.
Sounds interesting in seeing his coming from a different perspective. But how do you reconcile that his coming in Daniels is to the ancient of Days, while in Matthews it keeps making reference towards the earth down to man? just curios However, Matthews 24: 30-31 " Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and THEN ALL THE TRIBE OF THE EARTH WIIL mourn, and THEY WILL SEE the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And HE WILL SEND HIS ANGELS with a great sound of a trumpet, and THEY WILL GATHER together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
This is too brief of an answer to your excellent question. But I think the SIGN of the coming of the son of man to the ancient of Days is tied to the destruction of the temple. Daniel 7 is an enthronement text. As far as Matthew 24:30-31, I think the disciples would have heard the Old Testament resonances. “Tribes of the land” would be a better translation in my view. The tribes of Israel namely. The ingathering would have naturally made them think of passages like Psalm 107:3. The hope of the diaspora being regathered would have been the natural idea to them. This regathering of the diaspora has found an ultimate and superseding fulfillment in the church.
Thank you for a very well presented video and with your open and honest interpretations of the verses discussed. I just have one question to ask you: since you kind of acknowledge that Matthew24 & related verses are languages of Jesus' second coming AND you also said you believe there will be another yet future coming of Jesus, then in my mind, you are actually believing in total THREE comings of Jesus, am I right? I don't see three comings being taught in the bible at all. In other words, I can understand two positions: (1) futurists who believe in the first coming which happened and a yet future second coming (which in my personal opinion is not supported by scriptures); and (2) full preterists (of which I am one) who believe the first coming and the second coming (AD70) had happened already. The above is just for discussion purposes with you. You are doing a great job to share your journey of seeking the truth. The Lord bless and keep you brother!
Thanks! Thanks for your gracious comment. I hope some of my other videos where I explain why I don’t take a full preterist position don’t offend you. Revelation 2:5 is a good example of how I understand the word “coming” contexts like this. I think there not merely 1 or 2 comings in judgment but multiple visitations of judgments (Ex 19 the Lord in a sense came to Egypt) But I do think there will be a bodily return of Christ as well (usually called “the second coming” but I think this is confusing terminology.)
Your comments are so gentlemanly there is no way I would be offended. I have been discussing full Preterism for five years with three Christian brothers who are "adamant" futurists and we are still talking. Just a few quick response/sharing to your comments above: 1. My view is that the bible does not actually teach a " bodily return" of Christ. Acts 1:11 which uses "hon tropon" for " just as the same way", as used in a few other bible verses, is a symbolic expression. I recommend a video by Travis Drum who did a video on this topic. 2. Although there may be several judgements recorded in the bible on Israel and other nations, I see that when it relates to Christ's coming, there are only two comings (appearing) according to Hebrews 9:28. 3. The Olivet Discourse and the book of Revelation are talking about the same coming and judgement on Israel. For example Matthew 16:27 = Revelation 22: 12 (to repay each person.....). Just sharing what I have learned with you, hope you don't mind it's a bit lengthy😂. Have a great weekend brother! The LORD BLESS you!
You went from the frying pan into the fire. You had better rethink Matt.24:30. That's not the 2nd coming at all. This is the fulfillment of Matt.23. and Jesus 7 woe oracles against His enemies, the pharisees in 1st century Jerusalem.!!!! There is no 2nd coming in the Olivet Discourse!!!!!
@@davidwoods6015 Why not expand our perspective and include the entire NT? Jesus told His disciples that they would know when He was near, standing at the door, and that it would occur in their generation. (Mt. 24:32-34) Later, every inspired apostle taught their audiences that the end was near. During the time of their generation, James informed the twelve tribes scattered among the nations that the coming of the Lord was near, the Judge was standing at the door. (James 5:7-9) Peter, James, John, Jude and Paul all taught the end of the age as about to be, near, shortly or soon to their audiences. Trust the exclusive and multiple time statements regarding the end. Biblical eschatology is focused on the end of the OC Mosaic age and the full establishment of the NC Messianic age. All prophecy has been fulfilled.
@@davidwoods6015 The first century audiences were taught two comings of Christ. Once to be the sacrifice for sin, the second time to bring salvation. Hebrews 9:27-28 “And just as it is appointed for man to die once, and after that comes judgment, 28 so Christ, having been offered once to bear the sins of many, will appear a second time, not to deal with sin but to save those who are eagerly waiting for him.” Do we know when the day of salvation was to occur according to Scripture? Romans 13:11-12 “Besides this you know the time, that the hour has come for you to wake from sleep. For salvation is nearer to us now than when we first believed. 12 The night is far gone; the day is at hand. So then let us cast off the works of darkness and put on the armor of light.” Paul reminded the Roman believers that they knew the time, the hour had arrived, salvation was near, and the day was at hand. Why reject this clear teaching?
What part of "Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom" don't you understand?
Good teaching, many Theologians, preachers, teachers has tought by lateral interpretations, rather they understanding Old Testament language was Apocalyptic language...that's why The book of Revelation is confusing to most Christians.
What was it ciaiphas saw? Was it what he perceived from Pentecost onwards in the disciples. Was that the 'coming from now on' The transfer of power, the destruction, was that the sign of the coming, of his arrival when He puts his foot up on the footstool?
I’m in favor of it! However, I don’t see much evidence to suggest that there is a secret coming of Christ prior to the second coming. So I do believe that followers of Christ will rise to meet the Lord in the air, but I see this as one event at the end of this age.
It speaks volumes that in John's Gospel he never speaks about the fulfillment of these prophecies, only the mention of the "Eschati" Imera (last day), and resurrection. This tells me everything except the resurrection of the dead has already occurred. Acts of the Apostles comes close to showing this with the expectation of "restoring the Kingdom" to Israel. The new Israel is born from Pentecost and the Holy Spirit; the temple is prophesied to be destroyed, and Paul's teachings to the Gentiles complete the process of ushering in the New Earthly Kingdom with a heavenly hope.
What do u think of Matthew 25 (judgment of the sheep and goats)? Most preterists don't comment on it. Is it past? It would really need to be because Matthew 24-25 are all the same Olivet discourse. In chapter 25, Jesus has arrived on the earth and is bringing forth judgment.
@@BiblicalStudiesandReviews"when the Son of Man comes and all his angels with him, then he will sit on his throne." (mt25) Very significant if that's future. Yet, earlier, the disciples asked "what would be the signs of his coming" and chapter 24 says "they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he will send out his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other." It seems like 24 and 25 are same event. It is the same sermon, same context. It speaks of the Son of man coming with his angels in both chapters. If 25 is yet future , it means at least some of the details in Olivet discourse are yet future. This would then be a challenge for "this generation" not passing away until all these things take place if some of those things are indeed still future. Just some food for thought
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@@BiblicalStudiesandReviews lots of error, 70 ad prophesy ends at Mat. 24:2. The rest is wars and rumors of wars for 2000 years. This generation is the generation that sees the tender branch (Israel born in a day in 1948 and put fourth leaves in 49).
@@rickhuntling7338 thanks for interacting. That was the view I held and taught for some time. How long do you think a generation is? The cool thing about your position is that it will be easily confirmed soon or falsified.
@@BiblicalStudiesandReviews Confirmed as it is written. Only the Father knows the day and the hour is a Jewish wedding tradition so verses 32-42 is the Rapture of the bride.
You can't fit wars and rumors of wars, famines, pestilences, false christ into 40 years. Can you name a false prophet in the 40 years? I can name Mohamed in my 2000.
After the Gospel is preached to the whole world will you see verses 15-31. Where are the saints gathered from in 24:31? My bible says heaven.
I was so confused growing in a Baptist church as a young child on these verses. It wasnt untill about 6 years ago, my eyes were opened to the partial-preterist position in the form of David Chilton's book, Paradise Restored (it can be found free online). Now I love this chapter as it shows without a doubt, the supernatural origin of the Bible and of Christ in his prophecy! He said that generation at about 30 or 33AD , so add 40 years (a biblical generation) is about 70AD. That's why 1 John and other books always said "the time is near", because they knew in the 60s, it was almost time.
Thanks for sharing that and I really appreciate you watching!
This 40 year period (a generation), between the crucifixion/assention, and the destruction of the Temple/Jerusalem is practically alluded to in Hebrews chs. 3 and 4, Christ being the replacement for Moses, and history repeating, with only the "remnant" (explained in the Book of Romans) of Jews who had become believers having "entered that rest." From Pentecost to 70 AD, the church went from Jewish believers only, then Samaritan believers, next Gentiles, but at first, "Jew first, then the Greek," then finally "neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female," right up until 70 AD.
Yes great point. The 30-70 AD period was a new wilderness. Jesus (The greater Moses) led the true Israel out of Jerusalem (Egypt , Revelation 11:8)
@@kylec8950 preterist and futurist are not good positions. I would look at the historicist perspective in trying to understand the bible. I never knew what historicism was until a couple years ago. I was only taught that there were only 2 perspectives, futurism and preterism, both are jesuit inventions made to take the focus off the papacy being antichrist.
@@DJLiquidSmooth Thanks for sharing. I'm pretty much convinced of the preterist position.
Fantastic lesson! It's so nice to hear someone so clearly explain what I have come to believe over the years! Right on at every point! I absolutely agree and really enjoyed listening to you go through scripture and paint a picture of exactly what was happening back in 70AD and what Matthew 24 etc are really talking about! I grew up knowing nothing of this and never being taught anything like it but through studying and listening to others like yourself as I've gotten older I've come to learn what I believe to be the truth (partial preterism) and it has really opened my eyes and helped me to understand God's word so much better and on such a deeper level. It really is refreshing and a relief when the pieces all fit together and things makes so much sense! I too struggled with understanding all of this for quite some time but I am so thankful for the understanding I have now! Thank you for sharing! I will definetly subscribe as I look forward to watching more of your videos! I really enjoy your style of teaching! It is very clear and to the point and all based in scripture! I really appreciate you taking the time to make videos like this, it's so affirming to me and I'm sure so eye opening and helpful to others! Keep doing what you're doing! God Bless!
Thank you very much for your kind words. That’s very encouraging to me! Blessings!
It amazes me how people twist and misinterpret the Good Book. You are calling Jesus a liar by saying he is about to return, when in reality he returned in 70AD just like we are told several times in scripture. ua-cam.com/video/LFmXVMh8hb4/v-deo.html
We are now POST Millennial Reign in the LITTLE SEASON of Satan from Rev. 20. He has certainly gone forth to DECEIVE the NATIONS. Also, the sun does not flip - we are in a closed system, the earth is fixed and immovable just like scripture tells us it is. Stop trying to complicate things - it's all rather simple if you read the Word of God like it is intended to be read.
Thank you for doing this video and thank you for your charitableness. Charity is in sorry supply these days when talking about this topic. You've given me a lot to think about.
I’m very grateful for you taking the time to watch and your kind words.
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THANK YOU for explaining the whole "The sun will not give its light and the stars will fall from the sky" passage. That has tripped people up over and over again.
Thanks for this video. You shared a lot of really good information and insights. It is so important to take any portion of scripture in it's context, while also keeping in mind the whole Bible is one story. While I probably would have said I came to the same conclusions as you, I wouldn't have been totally confident or as well able to articulate all of this. I think the highest commendation I can give you, is that after watching this I want to get my bible about and read through all these passages again and make some helpful notes about all the connection. Thanks again!
Thank you brother. That means a lot to me.
Good fallacy for fools. truth is not available from a God who isn't. SDA 35 YEARS and fooled with any decent Manwho realy knows what is happening here. your more likley in for money and fool people giving them faults hope.
This was soooo helpful! I have been interested in partial preterism due to the "this generation" line for a while, but this really helped me to understand and flesh out the details. The Son of Man coming on the clouds TO the Ancient of Days blew my mind!! Thanks so much.
Thanks! That’s encouraging to hear. It blew my mind too once I saw it.
The references to old testament scripture shed tremendous light on the Olivet discourse happening in their lifespan, generation.
Funny how when we allow the Bible to interpret itself, and understand passages from a first century view, things magically fall into place and make a lot more sense. The only challenge is for one to embrace what is shown (proven) to be true. Well done my brother.
Thanks! I appreciate it.
Its not hard to understand that the bible is written during the time and from the perspectives of the men who were alive in their time. For whatever reason, God knows, there was meant to be 2000 years in which the gospel would go out into the world, until the times of the gentiles are fulfilled. We know Christ is going to return, John was given an entire books worth of prophecy concerning this revealing of the Lord. The entropy that happened to Israel, the dogmatism, the complacency, all of it, has likewise happened to the church, and the church must be cleansed, judgement begins in the house of God, according to scripture. Christ will bring the church through the fire, and every Christian will get a chance to demonstrate where their faith resides. Those who would lose their life for Christs sake will find life eternal. Even a cursory glance at the events in the world show the exact unfolding of the events we were warned would take place. There wont be any question when it happens either, prophecy is understood by its fulfillment. All the speculation about how everything will unfold on earth is just that, speculation, but as that day approaches, there wont be any confusion or question about the identities of the figures mentioned in Revelation.
@@CryoftheProphet Things in Rev.began in 70 ad they didn't end in 70ad. The white horse was Rome in 70 ad. The other three are the three covenant curses YHWH uses to keep them in exile 1878 years. The 4 horses were put in there stalls in 1948.
You’re exactly right. We need to accept what is proven. It’s the Bible, and physical evidence. The physical evidence of Christ’s 1000 year earthly kingdom is all around you. Unless you believe in ancient aliens, only the kingdom rulers could (and would) have built castles with no bathrooms, star forts (like the one in the Florida keys with 16 million bricks), cathedrals, etc. you’ve been deceived because you live in revelation 20, the age of deception.
All of the biblical evidence points to a Full Preterist view. I have watched my fellow brothers in Christ wrestle with the principle of Audience Relevance. It brings back memories of my days before accepting the exclusive and multiple imminent time statements. Jesus, every inspired writer, and the original audiences all expected the coming of Christ at the end of the age to occur in their generation. We are required to take the overall context into consideration when determining our understanding of biblical eschatology.
One of my favorite passages that demonstrates the first century coming of Christ at the end of the age is James 1:1; 1:18 & 5:1-9:
James 1:1
“James, a bondservant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, To the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad: Greetings.”
James 1:18
“Of His own will He brought us forth by the word of truth, that we might be a kind of firstfruits of His creatures.”
James 5:1-9
“Come now, you rich, weep and howl for your miseries that are coming upon you! 2 Your riches are corrupted, and your garments are moth-eaten. 3 Your gold and silver are corroded, and their corrosion will be a witness against you and will eat your flesh like fire. You have heaped up treasure in the last days. 4 Indeed the wages of the laborers who mowed your fields, which you kept back by fraud, cry out; and the cries of the reapers have reached the ears of the Lord of Sabaoth. 5 You have lived on the earth in pleasure and luxury; you have fattened your hearts as in a day of slaughter. 6 You have condemned, you have murdered the just; he does not resist you. 7 Therefore be patient, brethren, until the coming of the Lord. See how the farmer waits for the precious fruit of the earth, waiting patiently for it until it receives the early and latter rain. 8 You also be patient. Establish your hearts, for the coming of the Lord is at hand. 9 Do not grumble against one another, brethren, lest you be condemned. Behold, the Judge is standing at the door!”
Jesus and every inspired apostle taught a first century second coming. The evidence establishes the trustworthiness of each one of them. At Christ’s first century coming the New Covenant heaven and earth kingdom was established forever at the passing of the old.
Everything between Rev. 1:1-3 & Rev. 22:6,10 was fulfilled as John prophesied. He informed his first century audiences of “things which must soon take place…for the time is near.” He made this clear with the following words:
Revelation 1:19 (YLT)
“Write the things that thou hast seen, and the things that are, and the things that are about to come after these things”
Our eschatology is entirely dependent on the true context given by the Father through His inspired apostles. Let God be true and every man be a liar.
Praise the Lord! This is the accurate teaching regarding "this generation". God bless you 🙏🏼
Thanks for watching!
failed prophecies.
@@BiblicalStudiesandReviews When the True Messiah Reigns, the Glory of YHVH is going to be literally appearing and covering the earth. Mt. of Olives will split in two, and the Messianic Age will ensue. The Glory of YaH as the Whirlwind of Fire, the Cloud of Glory, and the Shekinah Glory is going to be the Light on earth, instead of the sun. The True Messiah is going to be a Glory flyer ascending upon the Whirliwind of Fire, and the Cloud of Glory into the Throne Room of Heaven, but on earth. Mathew 24:30, all tribes and nations didn't mourn and see Him ascending into heaven, nor coming down in a cloud.
You can go directly to Abba YaH without any mediator. You can have perfect inner peace in your belly (heart labe in Hebrew or bowels) that gets rid of all inner jitters and butterflies in your belly, inner joy, inner loving-kindness, heaven on earth without needing anyone named Yeshua - Jesus - Iesou. Just copy heaven on earth by His Spirit until the Glory of His Presence literally appears. Not sinning, continually praying, continually praising YaH, dancing, celebrating, magnifying, glorfiying, and bowing down to Him until you literally see the Whirlwind of Fire, the Cloud of Glory, and even the Radient Energy Light Glory. Then continue copying heaven on earth to keep it. It does help to do 16-hour to 72-hour holy gatherings to copy heaven on earth with others ascending into His Throne Room super close to Him. Sabbaths are 16-hour to 72-hour holy gatherings, so everyone copies heaven on earth, getting rid of all worldly distractions to ascend upon wings like the eagles in higher dimensions; like the 4th dimension (the space time continuum) by eating from the Tree of Life. Heaven on earth is the Garden of Eden. Just try singing Hallelu YaH for six-hours by yourself, clapping, whistling, ringing tambourine, dancing, and getting close to Him without going through anyone named Jesus and see for yourself. It's fine to take an hour break after 3 hours of praise too, Selah in Hebrew means Break or Pause and also part of copying heaven on earth. Don't be surprised if the Cloud of Glory (Fog) appears in your home, It's Fire of Love.
It's what Shem and Yaphet, sons of Noach did, copying heaven on earth. Shem was Melech Tsedek, King of Salem, who taught Abraham, Issac, and Jacob how to get back into the Garden of Eden to eat of the Tree of Life (Eternal Life). Shem lived 600 years old, and so he lived even during the time of Jacob. The Greek BIble says Abram tithed to Melech Tsedek, but it was Melech Tsedek who blessed Abram and brought forth bread and wine (tithes is food, clothing, and shelter; not money). The Hebrew Bible has Melech Tsedek giving the tithes. Abram(ham) was a sojourner, so he was worthy to receive tithes in his time of need after the battle. I'm sure he gave tithes to all the mighty men of valor as well, they would have been hungry, tired, and worn out, so the King of Salem would have most indubitably helped them out as well; even though it's not written.
Very well structured and presented!
I had previously been convinced of the cosmic signs as representing the fall of nations. However, your point about Daniel 7 and Jesus coming on the clouds of heaven brings all the pieces of this puzzle together.
Thank you and Lord Bless! :)
Thanks Ross, I really appreciate you saying that. I’m taking an unpopular position and feedback like yours really encourages me!
"As spoken of by Daniel the prophet, whoso readeth (the book of Daniel) let him understand"
Jesus tells us this in the same chapter and in Mark's corresponding chapter (14). And he means it.
Let the reader of the book of Daniel understand.
And yes, those words were spoken by Jesus. They're not a gloss from the human authors
@@AnHebrewChild what was the abomination in 70 ad that caused the desolation? I'm waiting for it any day now. When you see zealot Jews errect an Ezra three altar on the Temple Mt. and atempt an animal sacrifice, run don't look back if you are in Judea.
@@BiblicalStudiesandReviews Paul was unpopular to the rabbis. Can you explain away Lk. 21:24 fulfilment in 70 ad? I read desolations of Jerusalem, remaining desolate unti the dispensation of the "time of the Gentiles be fulfilled aka age of the Church.
@@rickhuntling7338 there appears to be a disconnect between my comment and your reply to my comment. What are you thinking I'm saying?
Thanks for some clarity on this.
God bless you for this.
If you believe that the 2nd coming of Christ is still in the future; then you simply do not believe the very words of what Jesus said. Its really that simple. You are living by what you see in the world, and not by faith in what the God in flesh man said! Sorry, but I must defend the word of God here. The integrity of God's word is in question here and must be defended!
Thanks for sharing you thoughts. I do think he came in judgment but I don't see that as what we have traditionally called the second coming.
@@BiblicalStudiesandReviews if you think Jesus came already with judgement. What time do you we live in now, millennium?
@@mikeiniguez7621 yes
I think you have been deceived by the myriad of false bible versions.
If you an open mind and are willing to go where truth leads, youll at least want to listen to this. If you still think its nonsense, then sadly nothing can show you will change your mind.
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@@JohnnyCashOriginal Your KJV bible says that Jesus said that some of his disciples would not taste death before his return. If you don't believe your own KJV, then I can't help you.
What scriptures do you use to support the 2nd coming to be in our future if there are scriptures that we take to have happened during the 1st century? I think that it would be very hard, if not impossible, to decipher scriptures that would support a future coming.
Follow this dude at your own peril
Very well represented exegesis of Matt.24. I have believed in the partial preterist position for years and I feel a certain vindication. Very much appreciate this message.
Thank you! Appreciate your kind words!
About Matthew 24, the Greek word used for "pass" in these verses is "παρέλθῃ" (parelthē), which can also be translated as "enter into" or "pass into." This broader range of meanings allows for an interpretation that the generation would not enter into or experience the fullness of the fulfillment until all the described events are accomplished. Similar to how Israel could not pass the wilderness trial and had to wander for 40 years and fail to enter God's promises, the first century Israel failed to enter into God's promises for them by rejecting Christ and his apostles and thus were sent to wander for 2000+ years until a future generation is able to pass God's requirements through faith in the Messiah. This understanding explains why the first century Israel did not pass, but failed to pass, and thus awaits future fulfillment.
However, given that the generation of Israel was poised in the first century to have the potential to receive Jesus Christ and usher in the kingdom on Earth had they received Him (Acts 3:20), the events described in Matthew 24 may have begun to take place, but not everything did. Certainly God's elect were not gathered from the four winds (Matthew 24:31) and Christ did not appear with great glory to cause all the nations on earth to mourn (Matthew 24:30), which corresponds to Revelation 1:7 “every eye will see him, even those who pierced him; and all peoples on earth will mourn because of him." Those that pierced him, as per Zechariah 12:10, are the nation of Israel collectively, and this is clearly speaking about the 2nd coming of Christ, which no Christian should try to argue is a historical event, as we are still waiting the coming of the Lord and our gathering together unto him.
2 Thessalonians 2:1
"Concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to him (our blessed hope), we ask you, brothers and sisters, not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by the teaching allegedly from us-whether by a prophecy or by word of mouth or by letter-asserting that the Day of the Lord (book of Revelation, nightmare on earth) is at hand." If those who preach 70 AD are correct, then the Day of the Lord (destruction of Jerusalem?) was absolutely at hand when Paul was writing. However, the Day of the Lord, which is what Joel speaks of in Joel 2, is what Peter quotes in Acts 2 explaining to the Jews what is happening. However if you read Joel 2 carefully it says starting in verse 27
"Then you will know that I am in Israel,
that I am the Lord your God,
and that there is no other;
never again will my people be shamed.
“And afterward,
I will pour out my Spirit on all people.
Your sons and daughters will prophesy,
your old men will dream dreams"
So the fulfillment of Joel 2 happens after Israel is reconciled fully to God and are never again put to shame. The nation of Israel was put to horrific shame in 70 AD and God is not presently dwelling with Israel in their midst, as Israel has forsaken God and rejected His Messiah and spent 2000 years in scattered exile and judgment. Joel 2 was about to come to pass in the first century, the beginnings of it were evidenced by the pouring out of God's Spirit, but the fulfillment of it did not take place in full in the first century, but was postponed to a future generation. Peter, acknowledging that people will scoff at this idea says:
2 Peter 3:4
They will say, “Where is this ‘coming’ he promised? Ever since our ancestors died, everything goes on as it has since the beginning of creation.”
Peter goes on to explain that if you want to understand the longsuffering of God and why these events did not take place;
2 Peter 3:15
Bear in mind that our Lord’s patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him.
Paul's letters explain why God did not bring upon the nation of Israel in the first century the completion of their prophesied end times, because Israel fell (Romans 11:11). God will not bring about the fulfillment of the promises made to that nation until they are good and ready to receive all that God has for them, and that begins by them acknowledging Jesus Christ as their Messiah. So the obstinance and refusal of Israel has benefited the world for 2000 years, putting a pause on Israel's prophetic program until "the fullness of the Gentiles be come in" (Romans 11:25). Then God will return to dealing with the covenant nation and save Israel "as it is written" in the scriptures of the prophets and as Jesus himself said would happen.
" This generation shall not ENTER INTO, till all these things be fulfilled"????? A great thing about Preterism is not having to deal with all the futurist gibberish and torture of the Bible.
@@jamesreed5678 This generation will not enter into (the kingdom) until these things be fulfilled. These things were not fulfilled, therefore, that generation did not enter into the kingdom, similar to how the original generation that came out of egypt were forbidden to enter into the land, and a new generation had to take their place. Their ability to enter into the kingdom was conditional upon them receiving their Messiah, which they did not, but a future generation will.
Preterists can not deal with this verse: Peter preaching to israel in Acts 3:19 says "Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord; so that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord, and that He may send the One having been appointed to you, Christ Jesus, Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began." When Israel finally repents, that is when Jesus Christ will be sent to Israel to fulfill the promises of the prophets to that nation. Israel did not repent in 70 AD, and they did not have the kingdom restored to them, and therefore, this awaits a future fulfillment.
Well spoken. A few other things to possibly include in study: the parable of the fig tree - OT allegory for Israel... was being prophesied/warned of it's destruction, (cursed it for no fruit) but when it sprouts again, I've looked at this as when Israel became a nation again (pretty miraculous). Matt 16:28 Could this be speaking of John, who didn't die until he saw 'Revelation'? The word 39:16 G1074, sometimes interpreted as 'generation' can also, when talking about a collective people group at the time of that conversation, be 'race' or 'this people' - something to consider. Looking at it as it this way, then Jesus is guaranteeing that the He's will persist as a people group until His second coming. Echoing the promise in Jeremiah 31. Lol, not a100%, obviously, but something to consider.
POSITIVE PROOF OF A FIRST CENTURY RETURN OF CHRIST
1Thess 5:27 “I charge you by the Lord that this epistle be read to all the brethren.”
Paul was adamant that those people in that congregation hear his words so there would be no misunderstanding what their Apostle from the Lord was telling them! Paul considered this letter that important.
1Thess 4:15-18 “For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep.” It was Paul's perspective that some of those persons, the “we,” hearing the words in his letter would be alive when the event was to occur. The commonly-held rule in interpreting English texts is to equate the pronouns to the original recipients of that text, unless the text says otherwise.
16 “For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first.” The context is clear; it was the coming of the Lord at the last trump! The last and final coming!
17 “Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord.” Paul knew, by Holy Spirit inspiration, that this very event was the one where those remaining alive people, the same “we,” would be gathered to Him.
18 “Therefore comfort one another with these words.” These comforting words could be comforting indeed, ONLY, if the described event occurred while some of THEM were still alive. Otherwise it would be meaningless to them.
1Thess 5:1-5 “But concerning the times and the seasons, brethren, you have no need that I should write to you.” Oh! Those persons in that congregation already knew what Paul was writing to them about, the 2nd and last final coming of the Lord.
2 “For you yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so comes as a thief in the night.” They knew it was coming upon that generation suddenly.
3 “For when they say, “Peace and safety!” then sudden destruction comes upon them, as labor pains upon a pregnant woman. And they shall not escape.” It would be a time of destruction that many would not be able to escape.
4 “But YOU, brethren, are not in darkness, so that this Day should overtake you as a thief.” HUH? It could overtake them?
5 “You are all sons of light and sons of the day. We are not of the night nor of darkness.” They already knew these things because Paul had taught it to them. THAT DAY of destruction and wrath, the coming of the Lord, and the gathering to Him of His Saints, being able to overtake THEM in the 1st century, was a total impossibility if it was in any other time but theirs! The possibility of that Day overtaking them did exist, if they, like many others, had been in the dark! And ONLY if it was to come while some of them were still alive! There is no way that the Apostle Paul would have said this to them unless that possibility existed. And that possibility only existed in their lifetime.
There is your biblical proof-positive of THE first century return of Christ!
Follow that dude at your own peril
@@patricksmith3432 So lets get this straight. Are you saying that because you believe the coming of the Lord is yet future; and I believe that the bible teaches that the Lord has already came, based on the very words of Jesus; that that is a salvation issue? Where in the world do you get that Sir?
@@makarov138
So your thesis is that jesus christ is never coming back to save isreal let me get this straight thats what your proclaiming and there won't be a third temple let me just get that straight
@patricksmith3432 Sir, I think you have made Israel an idol like so many Christian Zionists.
Your information is not coming from Scripture. It's coming from deceived and deceitful men and women who want your money and political backing.
Zionism is not biblical because modern day Israel is not ancient Israel.
Israel and it's OT sacrificial system ended in AD70.
Please research the history of dispensationalism and Zionism. It will be a difficult discovery. But, you will be free to read the words of Christ and the apostles as they were written.
Those who believe in Christ are Israel regardless of genetic lineage. The Jews who were part of the Synagogue of Satan were punished in the first century AD due to their unrepentance and being guilty of the murder of Christ the Messiah. Those who today are referred to as Jews have no stake in the promise of God unless they repent and accept Christ, same as any other person. We are not waiting on a temple. The temple is the believer and God dwells in him. Sacrifice is no longer required because Christ was THE sacrifice. Denial that Christ is enough to cover sins, and refusing to be a temple for the Lord, is blasphemy of the Holy Spirit which is the unforgiven sin.
Thank you. I found Robert Reymond's treatment of Matthew 24 in his systematic theology is very helpful. Well done!
Wow, just when I think I've stumbled onto great earthshaking wisdom, I read the comments that throw me in nto such confusion that I don't even want to anymore. But I will hold onto to these lessons anyway and ignore the chatter. I do now believe in the fulfillment of the abomination of desolation at 70ad and am very motivated to look at Revelation in a fresh way. So the seals are open I'm thinking, but not the trumpets or bowls or the reign of the beast, roughly speaking. Sometimes you have to go backwards and correct mistakes usually passed on by people who do not understand, bf you can move forward again. God bless you for sharing 😇
I used to be a futurist. Then I started believing Jesus.
Believing Him for sure.... take a look. You are deceived. PRETERISM DESTROYED
"ALL these things" are not fulfilled and therefore Jesus has not returned as the cult of preterism falsely teaches. Take a look:
"Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled. 35 Heaven and earth shall pass away (be renovated), but my words shall not pass away. 36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only." Matthew 24:34-36
So if all these things are NOT yet fulfilled, and they aren't, how could this be speaking of that generation and not a future generation? Impossible. "This generation" could not have possibly been the generation, the people Jesus was speaking to when He spoke these words. We know that because most of these things were not fulfilled.
Did "the abomination of desolation" prophesied by Daniel happen in 70 A.D.? Nope.
"When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)" Matthew 24:15
Did Jesus return on the clouds and take up His elect? Nope. Matthew 24:29-31 Were Christ's elect gathered today in 70A.D.? No.
"Immediately AFTER the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other." Matthew 24:29-31
"ALL these things" Jesus is specifically speaking of in this passage/teaching are not fulfilled and thereby we know the preterists a cancerous cult that are misleading many (1 Timothy 1:19-20; 2 Timothy 2:18). They are the Hymaneus' of our day.
If your "Jesus" has already come, He's "another Jesus" and not "the Almighty" who said "he cometh with clouds; and EVERY EYE shall see him." Has NOT transpired. He said that He's coming "in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory ... with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other." This is NOT happened.
The fact that these things were not fulfilled in 70A.D. clearly reveals that preterism is heretical - because "ALL these things" did not come to pass in 70A.D. Future fulfillment.
Same here
Preterism opened up such clarity for me when it comes to understanding history in the biblical narrative. I’ve come to the conclusion that orthodox partial preterism along with optimistic amillennialism, is a proper view of eschatology.
I'm a post-mill,,,,, can you please explain what an optimistic a-mill believes
Thanks for sharing and realizing this those same verses troubled me and I came to same conclusions which is why I am a postmil or a kingdom Jesus now Christian! Things will get better and they have and fact!
That was really good!
How in the world, are you NOT a full Preterist.
As a full preterist, you’ve helped me with a couple of points to make for a preterist point of view. Thank you!
Thanks for watching. I’m glad you enjoyed the video. I’ve made some videos on why I’m not a full preterist. I hope you’ll watch them. The titles might be a little provocative but I think you’ll find that I try to be fair to that position. Blessings
Let's have a discussion on those texts you believe are yet future.
MT 24 MUST be read in the context of MT 23, for it is a more detailed telling of the very same event. The destruction of the old covenant world, Jerusalem and the temple and people, and the fulfillment of the new covenant "heaven and earth" or kingdom of God.
Amen
@@BiblicalStudiesandReviews I think this is talking about the actual new heaven and earth mentioned at the end of revelation.
The "destruction of the old covenant world," did not take place in 70 AD, though!
That took place in 30 AD with the crucifixion of Christ (He inaugurated the New Covenant...in His Blood, thus the old was overthrown).
The destruction of the Temple and Jerusalem came as a result (@ 40 years after the crucifixion) of what happened during the 490 years of Dan. 9:24-27; specifically, Jesus and the Apostles fulfilling the last 7 years of the prophecy...
Mt. 24 is NOT the place to begin a study of Bible prophecy, like the Preterists assert.
That's NOT where the Bible begins; and we shouldn't either.
*Soli Deo Gloria*
@@ryangallmeier6647 When the temple was destroyed, the Priesthood was destroyed, the instruments of worship were removed back to Rome, the city itself flattened, the physical Holy of Holys obliterated; THAT indeed was the end of the Old Covenant world. The crucifixion was the beginning of the New Covenant with that first Pentecost and the arrival of the Holy Spirit with supernatural manifestations. There was a 40 year period where the OT was declining and the NT was increasing. And by the way, if you want to start "where the bible begins," then go to Gen 1:1. But that's going to make for a rather long bible study!
@@ryangallmeier6647between 30 and 70 was the transition. Just like the Israelites were in the wilderness- they weren’t in slavery anymore but they also weren’t in the promised land yet.
Just discovered your channel. REALLY good stuff...MUCH appreciated. I didn't read all 1029 comments to see if anyone mentioned anything like this, but I'd like to add an observation.
I find it very concerning that those to whom Jesus spoke to directly about these things are impugned as having "missed it", and completely misunderstand His clear words. "You" means YOU. "Shall" means SHALL. And "see" means SEE. It's not that hard if you let the word speak.
I, too, as you, have come to a "now and THEN" fulfillment of all Prophecy. EVERY thing the disciples were looking for happened in some fashion. MUCH of what was prophesied will happen AGAIN in some form.
Thanks for the great content.
Excellent! Thank you brother. Great clarification.
I would like you to affirm the future return of Christ with actual Biblical scripture to validate that view thank you sir
read revelation. non of it is fulfilled, including the 2nd coming.
@@donhaddix3770 here let me help you, The Book of Revelation are all of the prophets prophecies combined together first of all which means they are capitulation.
Secondly right out of the gate the book tells you in Revelations 1:35 to read about were not future but were at hand during their generation.
Now approaching Revelations we understand there are real letters sent to seven real churches in Asia Minor which means they are the target of the letters.
Buy them simply not being here today is evidence in itself the prophecies have been fulfilled,..
Perhaps you should re-approach scripture and actually read it instead of repeating
@robertmcgee1771again with the mumbo jumbo that makes claim s without proof.
for example, this is not historic, but future.
Revelation 3:10
10 Since you have kept my command to endure patiently, I will also keep you from the hour of trial that is going to come on the whole world to test the inhabitants of the earth.
Tereo ek
tay-reh'-o
Verb
NAS Word Usage - Total: 71
1. to attend to carefully, take care of
a. to guard
b. metaph. to keep, one in the state in which he is
c. to observe
d. to reserve: to undergo something
Ek
ek
Preposition
NAS Word Usage - Total: 62
1. out of, from, by, away from
harpazō
1) to seize, carry off by force
2) to seize on, claim for one' s self eagerly
3) to snatch out or away
Matt 24:21 For at that time there will be great tribulation, unmatched from the beginning of the world until now, and never to be seen again.
Rev 3:10 ... the hour of trial that is going to come on the whole world to test the inhabitants of the earth.
Rev 9:15 So the four angels who had been prepared for this hour and day and month and year were released to kill a third of mankind (2.5 billion people today).
There have been many events worse than 70 AD and the worst is yet to come. The entire planet will be shaken, not just Jerusalem.
All human beings "know" and believe things based on the evidence and experience that we have encountered thus far in our lives. You made the statement that "I 'know' that the second coming of the Lord is still yet in our future." So my question then becomes; What in your training, experience, or evidence you have encountered, is your belief or 'knowing' of a still yet future coming of the Lord based on? Because the text says something different.
Thanks for watching. The general resurrection would leave historical artifacts. Empty tombs etc.
@@BiblicalStudiesandReviews If open graves is the thing you look for: Counterpoint! If that were the case; then how was it possible that Hymenaeus, Alexander, and Philetus, claiming the coming of the Lord and the resurrection had already occurred, were able to persuade some so strongly that they lost their faith, which the text plainly says they did, when there were still no open graves as evidence? 1Tim 1:20 and 2Tim 2:17. Meaning; open graves cannot be a sign of the general resurrection. Or, their still closed graves of their dead would have surely convinced those Thessalonians they were being played! That's ungetaroundable.
@@makarov138 I think they might have appealed to the event recorded in Matt. 27:52.
"Fear them not therefore: for there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; and hid, that shall not be known. What I tell you in darkness, that speak ye in light: and what ye hear in the ear, that preach ye upon the housetops. And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. Are not two sparrows sold for a farthing? and one of them shall not fall on the ground without your Father. But the very hairs of your head are all numbered. Fear ye not therefore, ye are of more value than many sparrows." (Matthew 10:26-31)
I read this the on the day of my baptism 37-years ago. When i finished reading the passage the Pastor asked me if that was all I had to say, and since I had no idea what was expected from me, I began to think of what to say as I did that, I could hear myself say, "Jesus is my Lord and Savior." That was the best day of my life.
A kind, gentle voice very easy to follow and understand. Much thanks!❤️⚓️
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How do we go from all the things surrounding the destruction of that temple in 70AD being fulfilled “in that generation”: and then the “Immediately after the tribulation of those days, and the “coming” (parousia, a noun) of the Son of Man, and the gathering of the elect from the four winds in MT 24:29-31 happening thousands of years later? I though “immediately” meant far less time than that!
I’m with you on that. I think 29-31 is fulfilled.
@@BiblicalStudiesandReviews Welcome to partial preterism! LOL!
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I don't know how to express my appreciation for your lecture. You saved me from my confusion about 'this generation' and enhanced my understanding of the scripture. Again, it really helped me. God bless you.
Means a lot to know that! Thanks!
@@BiblicalStudiesandReviews I think you are on the right path, but as far as I can see you miss something very significant. Whenever Jesus spoke about "this generation" he never referred to it as a lifespan. He spoke about the _type_ of generation it was - an evil and disbelieving generation, a wicked and adulterous generation, a generation that is like children calling out to each other and being hypocritical. You pick this up and understand that it is referring to the scribes and Pharissses. That's good, because that is exactly what Jesus is referring to. But what you miss is that in Matthew 23 Jesus shows us how "this generation" is a lineage, or genealogy, rather than a period of time.
Notice what he says in the seventh and final "woe":
"Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You build tombs for the prophets and decorate the graves of the righteous. And you say, ‘If we had lived *in the days of our ancestors,* we would not have taken part with them in shedding the blood of the prophets.’ So you testify against yourselves that you are *the descendants of those who murdered the prophets.* Go ahead, then, and complete what your ancestors started!" (Matthew 23:29-32)
Here, we see that the context of what Jesus is talking about is the _ancestry_ of the scribes and Pharasees - one that started with their descendents AND, with them included, has a continuation! The fact that this generation will continue is important. Now read carefully the next passage:
"You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell? Therefore I am sending you prophets and sages and teachers. Some of them you will kill and crucify; others you will flog in your synagogues and pursue from town to town. And so upon you will come all the righteous blood that has been shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah son of Berekiah, *whom you murdered between the temple and the altar.* Truly I tell you, all this will come on *this generation.*
The "generation" he is referring to are those who are the decendents of those who killed the prophets. These are not all the Jews, but a specific lineage. And notice also what he says to "this generation". He accuses THEM of killing Zechariah. How could "this generation" be a lifespan? None of the people he was speaking to were even born during the days of Zechariah!
What Jesus is actually saying in Matthew 24:34 is not that he would return within a generation, but that "all these things" are going occur _BEFORE_ this generation passes away. That not only agrees with what we see today, it lines up with what we read in the book of Revelation which tell us that the very last thing to occur on the eschatological timeline is the second death - the total destruction of the wicked.
Decent intro to partial preterism. It can get pretty deep, deeper than most are willing to go. But, for more, check out Sproul, DeMar, and, for a really deep dive into full preterism, Don Preston.
A warning to all, full preterism is heresy from the get go.!! These people believe that the 2nd coming happened in 70 a.d. Nonsense!!!! What did happen, the apostates from Matt.23. got judged a generation after Jesus condemned them. That's judgement of one people, the renegade Jews who murdered Messiah, turned the temple into a den of theives, said straight forward with no apology , "we have no king but Caesar.!!! That was the end of the old covenant system. Not the end of the world!!! The new covenant in His blood was then ushered in. The substance of 70 a.d casts a long shadow throughout the new testament. Don't think for a second that the 2nd coming in always in vogue, it's not!!!!! 70 a.d. completely changed the immergence and speed of the new covenant in the Roman Empire and beyond.!!! That's why Jesus said go unto the Jews first. He knew they only had 40 years to get it right and they failed miserably. The clock was ticking and in 70 a.d. time ran out and 1.1 million apostate Jews bit the biz bag. Temple gone, city gone, country destroyed. Sacrificial system cast into outer darkness forever!!!! You can have your say but what I've spoken is the real deal. No way around it.!!!!!!!
Why? The preterist view was debunked in 1948 when the tender branch put forth leaves.
@@rickhuntling7338 That 'argument' was debunked, crrushed, and buried with Don Preston's 'Israel 1948: Countdown To No Where.'
@@MrMurfle who's Don Preston? Never heard the man but he tickeled your itchy ears. If it's debunked tell us the meaning of the parable pre 70 ad.
By the way, how many false christ were there inside 40 years? How do wars and rumors of wars plus world wars fit inside the same 40 years? Could you give the historical records for these wars. Another puzzel how is it earthquakes in diverse places being detected in the 1st Century? So for example how can a quake in California be a sign in Israel for the 70 ad siege? These days we know of earthquakes minutes after they hit.
1948 has nothing to do with our religion.@@rickhuntling7338
This is good clear and convincing teaching on a subject which can be difficult
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i really appreciate this. Good lesson. Im curious if you could provide videos or references on your partial preterist position. I don't define myself but i lean more towards full preterism because it appears that not only this passage, but all the other Revelation passsages seems to point to AD70. So partial preterists believe almost everything happened, (or all the judgements happened) but there is a physical second coming. Can you please give me a video or link or references? This is where i get stumped.
Several historians were alive during the 1st century such as josephus, tacitus and a few others. They all witnessed and described some pretty wild stuff during the siege of Jerusalem. One thing they described was a host of heavenly soldiers fighting up in the clouds, earthquakes and the temple doors opening themselves etc. I believe that Christ's second coming did indeed occur during that generation just as He said it would occur. Human history has always been shrouded in mystery and straight up deception.
Jesus said that every eye would see _him,_ not some heavenly host. What happened in 70 AD was merely a partial fulfillment of prophecy - something that exists in scripture. I can expand on that if you want, but most people don't like their views to be challenged so I doubt you are interested. But otherwise just let me know.
@@paulbrennan4163 can you expand? Could there be more than a second coming?
@@codyalexander3290 Sure Cody. No, there is only one second coming - if by second coming we are referring to when he returns to judge all mankind. But before I explain what I mean let's look at a few examples of partial fulfilments of prophecy so that you can see that it is a valid concept.
First, we have a prediction that Joel made about the Holy Spirit:
"And it shall come to pass afterward that I will pour out My Spirit on all flesh; your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions. And also on My menservants and on My maidservants I will pour out My Spirit in those days.
"And I will show wonders in the heavens and in the earth: blood and fire and pillars of smoke. The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the coming of the great and awesome day of the Lord ... I will also gather all nations, and bring them down to the Valley of Jehoshaphat; and I will enter into judgment with them there..." (Joel 2:28-32-Joel 3:1-2).
God inspired the apostle Peter to quote from this passage to describe events on the Day of Pentecost, when God founded the Church after Jesus' resurrection (Acts 2:14-21). Miraculous manifestations of God's power through the Holy Spirit did indeed occur then (Acts 2:1-13). But these were only the first fulfillment of Joel's prophecy. The ultimate fulfillment will come at the time of the end and will involve, among other things, the gathering of the nations to God's judgment in the Valley of Jehoshaphat. This did not occur on the Day of Pentecost.
Then we have this:
"He went to Nazareth, where he had been brought up, and on the Sabbath day he went into the synagogue, as was his custom. He stood up to read, and the scroll of the prophet Isaiah was handed to him. Unrolling it, he found the place where it is written:
“The Spirit of the Lord is on me,
because he has anointed me
to proclaim good news to the poor.
He has sent me to proclaim freedom for the prisoners
and recovery of sight for the blind,
to set the oppressed free,
to proclaim the year of the Lord’s favor.”
Then he rolled up the scroll, gave it back to the attendant and sat down. The eyes of everyone in the synagogue were fastened on him. He began by saying to them, *“Today this scripture is fulfilled in your hearing.”* (Luke 4:16-21)
Now if you look at the passage Jesus was quoting from Isaiah we see that he actually stopped smack in the middle of a verse. The whole verse goes like this:
"to proclaim the year of the Lord’s favor
*and the day of vengeance of our God,*
to comfort all who mourn" (Isaiah 61:2)
Here we see that the day of vengeance was not fulfilled "today", as Jesus said, but is reserved for a later time (otherswise we would have consider Isaiah a false prophet).
We also have the fact that before Jesus arrived on the scene, many Jewish "preterists" of their time believed that the abomination of desolation was fulfilled in the 2nd century BC. Antiochus had set up an altar to Zeus over the altar of burnt offering and sacrificed a pig on it. To them this prophecy was done and dusted and therefore could be ticked off the list. However, Jesus seemed to be convinced that this kind of thing would occur again some time in the future.
As you can see this is a bit long, so I'll stop here for now so that you can take this all in before I continue. Let me know when you are ready, or if you have any thoughts about this so far. I think you'll find what I have to say very interesting, because it explains why there is so much confusion about this issue.
If you read it didn't say the generation of year 2000 wouldn't until these things be fulfilled. It said that generation would not pass that they were in would not pass until these things take place. We are not in that generation. It has passed. 😁
The explanation of the word generation was a key to understanding
To be gullibles fools.
Read it as it is . Can't make up the bible practice RUMULUS 2 boys brothers drifting in moses basket .
"A wicked and adulterous generation seeks a sign"
A Christian is to walk by faith, watching current events is walking by sight....the bible can be used by our enemy as a script deceiving the unsuspecting
I must remind you that you will virtually never hear a pastor or preacher preach on this subject on a Sunday morning's worship service. Because that potato is way too hot for that. KUDOES to you for taking a slug at it!
Thanks for watching! Yes it’s definitely controversial. I expected I would ruffle some 🪶 feathers. Blessings!
These things seem to be deliberately taught incorrectly by the modern pastorship. I look to Jude a lot more lately. What we are mostly being taught about the Bible isn’t lining up with what the Bible actually says.
As for the verse about “this generation shall not pass”, I tend to think it shows that the Jews of bloodline Israel will not fully embrace the Messiah before the final day. Sorry to disagree with you Schofield lovers.
But yeah, the point must be made, is it the final Jew to come to GOD that signals the coming of the Son of Man? No. It’s the final Gentile who comes to GOD, that’s what the Bible says.
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A Jew is Not A Jew till they are A Believer in Christ Jesus
Romans 2 v 28/9.
I don't know how I found your videos. I have been watching them tonight. I just found them tonight. Now I find your videos very interesting. You got me thinking of how I read the Bible. Keep making your videos. I may not agree with everything. You fired up my learning and eating to read the Bible again. The bible seems from what your teaching fresh new. God bless
Praise God! Thanks so much for watching
I agree with your caveat that prophecy seems to have a near and far fulfillment. Almost like the first is a microcosm or demonstration of what is to come later. I’d be really interested to know what your thoughts are on the next event to watch out for on the prophetic timeline
Jesus said that his coming was in the lifetimes of some of those apostles. MT 16:27 "For the Son of Man is about to come in the glory of the Father with his Angels, and he shall repay every man for what he has done." So he was coming in vengeance on 1st century Israel. MT23: 38 "Your habitation shall be left to you as a wilderness." Total destruction of Jerusalem and the temple with all the people. And the timing of the event? MT 23:36 "Assuredly, I say to you, all these things will come upon THIS GENERATIO." A 40 year span of time as per Hebrew reckoning. (40 years in the desert until that generation died out.) And finally MT 16:28 "There be some standing here who shall not taste of death till they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom." The coming of Jesus occurred in the lifetimes of some of those apostles, or in other words, in THAT generation. Let God's word be truth! Because it is true!!
I agree that he came in the clouds of heaven to the father in that generation. Blessings and thanks for interacting.
The seeing the so of man comming in his kingdom was fulfilled by the transfiguration on the mount, where the saw christ in his perfected body along side moses, and Elisha.
@@anthonypolonkay2681 WHO DIED? Jesus said only SOME of them would still be alive, meaning that SOME of them would have died. All were still alive that next week. Can't be that!!
@@makarov138 no. He said SOME of you will NOT die before you see the son of man commin omwith power.
He didn't say some others of them have to die in order for the few to get to see it before they die.
And that is exactky what happened. Only a few apostles got to witness the transfiguration On the mount. Aka before thier deaths.
The rest of the apostles would not see such a sight until the second comming of christ which would obviously be far after their deaths.
@@anthonypolonkay2681haha, it's ridiculous to deny that the grass is green. imbecile sophist. Jesus clearly says, some would not experience death, there would be no need to say this for something that would happen days later, and the context is of death, of judgment, of them carrying their cross, of retribution according to works, there was none of that a week later, there was no son of man coming, there is no way to return from where you still are. STOP DENYING THE OBVIOUS
"This generation" means the one Jesus and the Disciples lived in. Its really that simple.
Yep!!!
Wow this is wisdom right here. Thanks for this! Would love to see more videos of you expounding scripture in the future! Also do you think that the possible tribulation still to come would be even worse than ever before?
Thanks for your encouragement! I think the tribulation the Jews faced in AD 70 was the worst for them. But I don’t know about the coming tribulation
The darkening of the sun and moon can easily be referring to the smoke from all the fires from Jerusalem burning or as allegory referring to destruction in general.
Shalom Brother ! You are right, prophecies have dual fulfillment, in Matthew 24, Jesus talk about end times and of His second coming (Matthew 24.3), not about 70 AD, the scriptures are clear. 70 AD was only a foreshadow of what is coming soon : that Jerusalem = Mysterious Babylon, and the third temple will be destroyed at Tisha Beav as the first and second temple, by the islamic antichrist (Revelation 17.16), which Nabuchodonosor was a foreshadow (Daniel 2 & 3).
Daniel 2 & 7, don't talk about Rome, but about Babylon empire, the kingdom who was and is not (Revelation 17.8-11), which fit perfectly with scriptures : Revived Empire = Babylon, Islamic antichrist = king of Babylon (Isaiah 14), and Mysterious Babylon = Jerusalem.
As Acts 2.16 to 21 was a foreshadow of the true fulfillment of Joel 2.31-32, which would happen at the end times, at the six seal = Shavuot (Revelation 6.12), before Jesus come back from heaven at Yom Kippur.
Be blessed, you and your lovely family, by the Name above all names, Jesus. Amen ! Hallelu'YAH !
Shalom
Thank you, brother! I always appreciate your input!
@@BiblicalStudiesandReviews Brother, I forgot to say that, in my understanding, Daniel 7.13-14 is link to the event = raptur, describes in (Rev. 11.15 to 18), before the Wrath of Jesus, cause Jesus go to the Ancient of Days with the clouds = saints (Hebrews 11 & 12), and we know that when Jesus come to raptur His church, there is no clouds (1 Thess. 4.16), but we will go with Him in the air (1 Thess 4.17), to be where He is = in the sky (John 14.3), but when Jesus come back, the clouds = saints, are with Him (Matthew. 24.30; Rev. 1.7; 19.7-8-14; etc....)
Always a pleasure to share with you, I don't pretend to know the truth, except about that Jesus is God made Flesh, and die for ours sins, and risen in the third day. Hallelu'YAH !
Shalom my dear Brother in Christ.
@@yeshuaisyhvhgodmadeflesh6258 How can you call Acts 2 a foreshadow when Peter said 'this is' what the prophet Joel spoke of?
@@Jus4kiks Shalom! Have you read Joel 2 ? If so, you would know that Joel is fulfilled before the Return of Yeshua/Jesus, it speaks of the Day of YHVH = the Wrath of God = that of Yeshua/Jesus. Peter quotes Joel as the Spirit descended upon them, who were 120 disciples, not all flesh, it was only a foreshadow of the fulfillment of Joel 2 at the return of Yeshua/Jesus.
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I must say you did a great review of this topic! I do have a question though..How does the partial preterist typically view the rapture, second coming, Millennial kingdom? I'm curious because I also believed 70 AD was significant but still see a future second coming.
Partial preterists believe in a literal second coming of Christ. Most partial preterists are either post-millennialists or Amillennialists. There are some premillennialists. Most would not hold to a pre tribulation rapture.
We are the clouds of heaven, they will see him coming through us, like a bright light from east to west, like the sun rising
Whether partial or full, I hope we can stick together to bring truth to the futurists who live in fear AND those who successfully tagged Jesus as a liar in court and completely discredited Him.
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@Rick Huntling Hey Rick, Have you become a preterist yet? My former pastor who has an apologetics dispensational radio show told me in writing that regarding "God's Temple" in 2TH2: "One thing to call it that - another thing to be that." ... Nonsensical way of saying "The Bible has a big error in 2Th2."
@@johno2277 kJV has the error capping god and temple. The temple is in Mecca and the god is satan. Ezek 28 the prince of tyre did everything the son of predition will do without the 1st Temple standing. 2nd. Thess. 2:3 reads "the departure come first" no "a falling away.
LOL I'm not dumb enough to be a preterist so it will never happen.
The tribulation WAS the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple complex. MT 24:21 "For there shall be great tribulation, such has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be." This was the time! The context of MT 24 is the destruction on the Old Covenant economy and covenant. There is no future tribulation! Verse v21 says so. Let God's word be true!
I'm not sure if there will be no future tribulation, but a largely agree that the great tribulation spoken about in MT 24 took place in AD 70.
I'd suggest reading Zechariah 14 as the language seems very similar to Jesus Olivet discourse. It's interesting to note the prophets saw a coming Day when Jerusalem would be surrounded by nations and then subsequently those same nations overthrown by the LORD whose name will not be profaned by the nations anymore, and will set Himself up as King of all the nation. If Zecheriah 14 is what Jesus had in mind and saw Himself as the LORD who jusges and makes war as we see in Revelation. He has yet to stand on the Mount of Olives and split it in two.
And Jerusalem has yet to be surrounded by nations with LORD winning the war, the King installed in Jersualem with those that survive coming up to Jerusalem for the Feast of Booths. There's more to what Jesus speaks about in Matthew 24 than I believe we recognize, myself included.
@@DM-xy9gd I'd suggest reading MT 23 first. Because it is there that we have confirmed what, why, and when that is the context of MT 24. In MT 23, Jesus is in the temple with his disciples foretelling to the Scribes and Pharisees the things which were about to befall them. He told them what was going to happen to them. He told them why it was upon them. The Saints and Prophets, from the beginning up to their present day, that they were responsible for their murders. God's vengeance was on them! He told them when; in this generation that he was staring into their eyes. And he even told them the final result. “Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.” The Greek there means a wasteland or wilderness. And the written annuls of history records that all of that actually happened in 70AD when the Romans came in and whipped it all out. THAT generation experienced that “tribulation.” When Jesus said “in this generation” he means HIS!!!!!!
Jesus and the disciples came out of the temple, and they showed him the buildings. And in our vernacular he said “Don't you get what I've been telling them?” Not a single stone would be left on another of that temple. That occurred in 70AD. Proven historical account! Exactly like, when, and in the manner Jesus prophesied! Then Jesus told the things that would happen to some of them up to when “Jerusalem surrounded by armies,” or the “Abomination of Desolation” would arrive. That too has already occurred. And then it gets really serious. In MT 24:29 Jesus calls those days the “tribulation.” Was he wrong? Lets get to the crux of this. In verse 34, Jesus says that “This generation, (THAT one, HIS generation) shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.” “Heaven and earth shall pass away.” That old covenant system, the Mosaic age was about to be destroyed forever. And the coming of the Lord in vengeance upon THAT generation was the culmination of it. It all has already happened in the time and manner that Jesus foretold. Precisely like he said!
If you truly believe the abomination of desolation has occured then do you believe the Day of the Lord has come? If so, what do you make of the prophets Zechariah, Joel, Zephaniah etc. along with Revelation? They speak of a Day when judgment befalls on the nations with the King being set up in Jerusalem, a language being turned into a pure language for all the nations as well. Also, how do you make sense of the gathering of the elect spoken of in reference to the Day of the LORD by Jesus, Paul and the Revelator, John?
If the abomination of desolation has come in fullness not in some partial sense then has this been fulfilled?
“And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will kill with the breath of his mouth and bring to nothing by the appearance of his coming.”
2 Thessalonians 2:8
Doesn't Matthew 24:21 debunk preterism? How could the events of 70 AD have been worse than what has come after e.g. world wars, The Holocaust?
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Hi What scriptures do you see refer to the actual 2nd coming of Jesus?
What keeps you from Full Preterism....? Why wrestle when you can just take His word for His word.
Full preterist is complete heresy from beginning to end. To believe the 2nd coming happened in 70 a.d.is a complete meltdown of Matt 24:30. Nothing to do with a 2nd coming!!! It's judgement targeted at one people, the renegade Jews from Matt.23!!!!! Matt.23:36 leaves no doubt who Jesus was talking to. And the ultimate culmination of all that Jesus spoke in Matt.23 was fulfilled in Matt 24. Not 2000 plus years later. The 2nd coming is still future to us. Don't allow yourselves to be bewitched by anyone who speaks a different message!!!!; Once again, full preterism is rank heresy. And futurism has to many leaks amid an ocean of conjecture.!!!!! Partial preterism has all of the pieces fitting into a eschatological framework that is unshakable. !!!!!!!
Where is Jesus and why is the world is so poorly mismanaged by him?
@@Arvak777 ATM I'm going with the eschatology that there are three comings of Christ and that it's the year 1023 and Satan was released in 1995 or the real year 995, bound at his birth around 5BC and Satan was chained a 1000 years, and now is loosed to deceived the Nations
Full preterism makes the most sense. Take the resurrection of the dead, if Jesus over came death for us all, why delay the resurrection for thousands of years?
One of the great realities of the Word is that it’s timeless. To say Matt 24 was for the Jewish Christian’s in AD 67 is very true and to say it’s for the end of times is also true. There is a tale that Christians escaped the Roman holocaust because of Matthew 24. God’s word is amazing in that is was and will be true. Jesus referred to the word being ever present by saying “Is written” not “Was Written”. One of those things hard to understand. it seems so contradictory to say “In the beginning was”(John 1) but Matthew 24 can and can never be dismissed as done in AD70.
I am fairly convinced, we are evil enough to blow up the entire world, and when we do that, the sun in the moon will in fact go dark.
I would say something quite similar. I do think that Matt. 24 will again become relevant to the end time generation. I would say if you want to see how God will judge the world, look at how he judged Jerusalem in AD 70.
There is NO such thing as a jewish Christian. Jews follow THE TALMUD (ie THEMSELVES) and always have. Jews were satanic edomites NOT Torah-following Israelites. They were NEVER under the old covenant as they are not of Jacob! The same applies today!
"Then certain of the scribes and of the Pharisees answered, saying, Master, we would see a sign from thee. But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas: For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth."
Matthew 12:38-40, KJV
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Good job. Thank you.
Couldn't the Greek word "genea" be translated "race", as in the Jewish people. In fact I think that's the more literal meaning of the word. I tend to believe that Jesus was saying that the Jewish people would not pass away until his second coming. I haven't had time to watch the full video yet so if you addressed this in the video I apologize.
No worries. It’s a long video. I do give a line of reasoning in the video of why I think we should take the words to mean “this generation”. For more details check out this article preteristarchives.org/generation-means-race/. Thanks very much for your comment and watching!
Because very few people are interested in the allusion Jesus was making here. I am a bible scholar, I speak 5 languages, I can assure you the use of Genea here is not used in a plural context, therefore it really should be translated as descent Jesus was alluding to Jeremiah 31. So Jeremiah say the only condition for Israel ceasing to exist would be when star and the natural order of things are moved out of place. Jesus says the end comes exactly with his appearance which would do exactly that, make the hevenly bodies fail. Since Jesus spelled doom for israel in previous verses, he therefore felt compelled to ECHO the promise made by God thru Jeremiah reminding the apostles that even thought israel will be surrounded and suffer when temple is destroyed the nation will not cease to exist until all his words are fullfiled culminating with the stars failing to give light, reminding them the promise from the verse he alludes to in Jeremiah is still being upheld. Pay attention to the keyphrases in Jeremiah, Stars, moon, Sun, SEAS ROARING.
This is what the Lord says, he who appoints the sun to shine by day, who decrees the moon and stars to shine by night, who stirs up the sea so that its waves roar- the Lord Almighty is his name: “Only if these decrees vanish from my sight,” declares the Lord, “will Israel ever cease being a nation before me.”
Jeremiah 31:35-36 NIV
bible.com/bible/111/jer.31.35-36.NIV
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“There will be signs in the sun, moon and stars. On the earth, nations will be in anguish and perplexity at the roaring and tossing of the sea. People will faint from terror, apprehensive of what is coming on the world, for the heavenly bodies will be shaken. At that time they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. When these things begin to take place, stand up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near.” He told them this parable: “Look at the fig tree and all the trees. When they sprout leaves, you can see for yourselves and know that summer is near. Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that the kingdom of God is near. “Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened. Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away.
Luke 21:25-33 NIV
bible.com/bible/111/luk.21.25-33.NIV
Yes, Genea in this instance refers to the Jewish people, whos context and exposition in Mathew 24, Lk 21 is derived from Jeremiah by Jesus. In other words Jesus echoed the promise made that the only condition israel as a race will cease to exist is by the same condition presented in Jeremiah 31. This is why it was proper for Jesus to say the culmination of all things is with his comming which would do exactly that, shake the heavens. Since he spelled doom for israel he reassured them of what Jeremiah said, that only by the cancelation of the decrees of the natural order can the Genea of Israel pass away, or cease to exist, not by the romans, nor the persecutions mentioned by him, but only when he comes back, which is when the natural order will be shaken, thats why this GENEA will not pass away untill all is fullfilled, whos culmination is with the stars falling and sun, moon etc ceasing to give light, only then will israel cease to exist, but not before.
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Are you trying to say Israel, old Israel has ceased to exist in place of new Israel?
@@jack9463 In the contrary, the race (not the nation) will be around until all is fullfiled.
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So if in light of Daniel 7, Mathew 24 presumes Christ's ascendancy, what are we left with regarding His return? We know He sits at the Father's side only until His enemies are under His feet. We can sense that storm gathering. Would you please consider an additional video speaking to the conditions of His return, that we can more safely assume, now that you have dispelled what they are not? Thank you. Appreciate you very much. Bless you, teacher.
I’ve been comparing the partial preterist view, with the futurist view, and have yet to draw a conclusion. It seems to me that a lot of puzzle pieces fit together amazingly well in the partial preterist view; if only we can force a few pesky pieces into place. On the other hand the futurists seem to know exactly where the pieces will fit, once they finally emerge. There are waiting for so many pieces to be created; I don’t see how they can be so confident in their conclusions.
Maybe 70% preterist view and 30% futurist one in global scale... Armageddon...
The futurists appear to have all their ducks lined up but in reality they are failing in every category. They talk the talk, soooo where is fulfillment of anything. They say, oh it's all future. So with an answer like that they haven't proved anything!!!! This a game with them, pin the tail on the anti-Christ. It's purely newspaper eschatology with no real substance. Conjecture in it's truest form. That's why I never bought into the futurist nonsense. I am a partial preterist. In a world full of bad actors it's real easy just to label so and so but that once again is always conjecture. That is the futurists Achilles heel.!!!!!
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The pieces have been falling together for the last 75 years for us "whoso readeth, let him understand".
Rev. 12:1 fulfilled on Sept. 23rd 2017 in the heavens.
Rev. 12:2 is the Children of Israel "woman" in travail with child "Nation of Israel.
Rev. 12:3 another wonder. The constellation dragon, the 7 heads = Arab League of States "ALS", in its tail Ursa Minor where the swastika originated and Polaris making it visible 24\7.
Rev. 12:4 "and his tail (swastika inside) drew (into camps an ghettos) the one third (6 million) of the stars of heaven (Jews Gen. 22:17) and did cast them to the earth (murdered and burned), and the dragon (Arab League of States) stood before the woman (children of Israel) who was ready to be delivered (Isa. 66:8) so to sdevour her Child (New born Nation of Israel) as soon as it was born (ALS attacked Israel the day it was born.
Rev. 12:5 The manchild (Body of CHRIST) is Raptured before the 70th week of Daniel begins.
Mat. 24:32 the parable is the birth of Israel with tender branch attacked but put forth leaves by defeating the ALS and exspanding its borders 2 fold in 1949. The generation that witnessed the birth will no perish until all these thing be fulfilled. For us those thing are the Rapture of HIS bride.
Keep studying, you will find the truth. All is Fulfilled
@@allthingsbing1295 then why was Rev. 12:1 sign fulfilled on 9\23\2017? The last time this happened in Virgo was 3973 bc. Why was the tender branch born a Nation in 1948 fulfilling Isa. 66:8 born in a day? That generation is still alive today in their mid 70s. HE prophesy 1\3rd of Jews would be murdered before the woman gave birth to the Nation of Israel. Most Preterist are like you, full of allegoric opinions with no scripture to back it up.
Something to consider here. Very interesting.
Too Many false prophets, I am happy to have heard your explanation!
Been Deceived for way too long!
Thanks for well performed biblical teaching which was very inspiring to me. I do not know if you have some follow up teachings on that subject of the Olivet discourse. Well, if yes please provide me with related link.Further, you have mentioned on couple of occasions that you are not holding the full preterist view but that you believe in Jesus second coming in the future, nevertheless from so far made exposition I have not noticed any argument for that. Thus, could you please develop it a bit more I. E. what biblically holds you towards a kind of partial preterist view. It would much appreciated. Thanks. May the Lord bless you in your ministry.
Hyper-preterism’s weakest link: Bodily Resurrection
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Thank you. This is taking the words of Jesus seriously. A far better understanding of these verses than the dispensational approach which twists script to fit their point of view.
Yes, Jesus is coming again in the future.
Thanks for the Video I think RC Sproul was heading this way as well . I agree in the Partial stance
Most definitely RC Sproul was onboard!
The little season , history being changed, and preterism are making a major resurgence on YT the last few months.
It is very dividing and hard to prove ... Jesus said it would be like in the days of Noah. This was a world wide problem. Hope this helps.
Perfect lession!
Very good Bible study on Matthew 24 - that so many get wrong but brother you are spot on and I've never heard anyone bring out Jesus RISING to the Ancient of Days and being given all power and authority just as he said he had when he gave the Great Commission in Matthew 28 in fulfillment. I REALLY liked it and am going to right now listen to it for the 3rd time. Thank you so much for this and God bless you brother!
Very gracious of you. Thank you for comment, it encourages me.
How do you know for sure he got it right? That is his interpretation to Mathew 24. Don't be in such a hurry, to jump in the boat.
The great commission hasn't occur yet. If the great commission occurred, why didn't the 12 apostles left Jerusalem? Remember, the Twelve never left Jerusalem. The Twelve where preaching the kingdom gospel to Jews not Gentiles. Peter and the 11 never had a ministry with Gentiles..The only one that had a ministry with Gentiles, was Paul but he was preaching death, burial and resurrection..
the smartest get it wrong read it Mathew 24: Jesus said some of you deciples will be alive srtill. He didn'r even come 20 generations ago. the earth never had a demon from the sky and nobody's is approving what God Approved others wise they would be put in prison or death penalties. Gods soldiers Rewarded to kill off all the babie boys and own slave Molest Rape rthe little girls in NUMBERS: LEVITICUS: DEUTERONOMY: GENIUSES: MADE ME VERY SHOCKED AND UILL AS A seventh day Adventist . Empires also made the Practice Bible before the scriprtures (ROMULUS) on 2 baby boys brothers drifting down the river in rthe same basket moses did and suckling milk from a dirty wolf dog. Been Scammed by you snake oil bastards and especially you lying Apalogetics who won't last for this . I hoped for a true loving none manipulative creater who isn't a monsterous psychopath. People shouldn'tbefoolwed no matter what but I can't be a lying ass and stop drinking the cool-aid.
A movies end never lasts longer than the movie.
What is a good argument for double prophecy?
I’ve been studying this a lot specifically mark 13 I’m between the kind of reading of Wright and McKnight or the one of Robert H stein. But imma read Lenski,Garland ,Lane,and a book Gentry recommended Jesus and the future. I have to teach this to adults for church so I gotta be very prepared I think as this is a right thing and most of the church are dispensationalists.
What does it take to study MARK 13 ?
@@trafficjon400 not sure exactly what you are asking I read most of the books I mentioned in the comment , but still some unresolved spots in the text I’m unsure of how to deal with. The text is tricky as two which parts are about which times most readings seem some as nearish to the prophecy and some far , but as to which parts much debate abounds a lot of this depends on how one understands the apocalyptic and world ending type language some argue for more national type readings and relate it to stuff in the Ot where nations seem to be see as celestial bodies others see it as more literal . A school thought also just sees it as a failed prophecy I talked to Dale Allison about this before and that seems to be his view that no interpretation can hold up to what the text says.
Can a Apologist be Honest ? of course not and what is a couple of meanings half to be a million words just like the scriptures to frustrate and corrupt the later day's . but the honest educated are here today knowing why the Empires started the big Book practicing ROMULUS of 2 baby brothers using Moses Basket Floating down his river Suckling milk from a dirty wolf dog? then 100 years finally the Scriptures book so long Man will never get the nack or know it fully as it decided Moses would make much better story sense. ringed a big bell in my head as an SDA for 40 years around. Mark 13 a spit with out context but in context Contradicts galore through out the Book only Smart Educated wise Collage students notice after praying many times. they read it correctly turning instant none believers of the book . then you get the hypocritical who don't know jack from the Book and call decent hardworking caring people, the heathen sinning hell makers. this will be stopped some day I pray if a loving honest Creater i hope Exist..@@transatlanticwhirlwind7589
God have a good sense of past, present and future.
Good work brother!!! The word you are looking for to describe the partial fulfillment of the first century vis-à-vis the 2nd Coming, is that what happened in the first century was a ''Type'' of what is yet to come during the future 2nd Coming... God bless!!!
Thanks for your encouraging words.
Do you have any scripture proof of another second coming of Christ and a second resurrection in the future? The 70 AD resurrection is obvious and scriptural, but there is no mention of another resurrection in our future.
Excellent teaching!
Good morning bro watching in the Philippines wonderful information about that topic and God bless.
Thank you brother! It’s such an encouragement to see people around the world watching.
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Unbelievable, your English is near perfect
Have been able to do a second part yet?
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I haven’t
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At about 19:48 talking about the sun and moon and stars being obscured (Isaiah and Ezekiel) as a cosmic event, which would indicate it being a world wide phenomenon, would it make more sense that the prophetic word places the point of view for the reader in the actual city being destroyed, and the smoke, ash, soot and haze emanating from the destruction of the city would from that vantage point certainly obscure the heavens.
About Isaiah 10 and Ezekiel 32 which he references....what I see in these passages is that Babylon and Egypt are symbolic of the wicked of all ages, not strictly the literal nations.....what I do see as literal is the 2nd coming of Christ referenced in both passages....as I do in Matthew 24:30-31.
I really liked this diff viewpoint. I don’t see how they saw Jesus coming on the clouds though.
- do you have any videos or examples of the “already and not yet” or partial fulfillment idea that supposedly arises from scripture at other points.
Matthew turned the history of Hosea 11:1 into a prophecy, quoted in Matthew 2:15.
@@BiblicalStudiesandReviews Thank you for your reply. With my ? earlier, how did they (high priest) see Jesus coming on the clouds
@@travisnorton9097 I see that as apocalyptic language as in Isaiah 19:1. Judgment language. Just as Egypt didn’t literally see him coming in cloud. But he nevertheless did come in cloud symbolically speaking.
@@BiblicalStudiesandReviews There was also one similar in Micah 1:4. I really like the viewpoint. But I can't find where you would take the viewpoint of Jesus 2nd coming if you hold to that view. Do you believe in a late writing of Revelation and hence hold to a 2nd coming later ? I'm honestly just curious. Not trying to "gotcha" you or anything.
@@travisnorton9097 I think there are a number of unfulfilled passages that deal with Christ’s return. I take an early date for Revelation. I see the millennium as a long stretch of time not a literal 1000 years. I see it starting at 70 AD and terminating at the return of Christ. I see AD 70 as a sort of dress rehearsal for what lies ahead at the end of our age. That’s why much of the language about both events is similar. The end of gentile times will be very similar to the end of the Jewish era.
Is Daniel 7 not referring to Christs ascension? For it is here that He was returning to His Father "The Ancient Of Days" and it is here that He declared that all authority had been given unto Him.
This verse (Matt.10:23) is speaking of persecution. “When they persecute you in this city (Jerusalem) glee to another...”
The apostles would not have gone that he cities of the land fleeing persecution before Christ returned = the second coming. Which proves He came in AD 70, at the fall of the city. Matt.24:34.
We are not too far far apart on some things. I just see the second coming as still future.
Jesus told them only the Father knows when He will come back so it made sense he said generation. He spoke to them like He is speaking to us.
@Apple Eyes "only the father knows" and "thief in the night" are Jewish wedding sayings. The son proposed to his bride (Gospel heard and accepted) HE goes to prepare a place for her (Jn. 14:1-3 many mansions) only the father knows the day and hour when it is time to say son go get your bride. HE comes to her place of waiting like a thief in the night to snatch away HIS bride where the many mansions have been prepared in the fathers estate.
In about AD 30 Jesus said no one knew the day or hour, not the angels or even the Son, only the Father.
Who inspired the subsequent writers of the New Testament? Wasn’t it the Father?
The Father, through the Son, inspired the apostle John to write the Revelation of Jesus Christ, correct?
What was John told to write to the seven first century churches?
Here are some samples of the time statements the Father gave to the seven churches existing in John’s day:
Revelation 1:1 “The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show to his servants the things that must soon take place. He made it known by sending his angel to his servant John”
Revelation 1:3 “Blessed is the one who reads aloud the words of this prophecy, and blessed are those who hear, and who keep what is written in it, for the time is near.”
Revelation 22:6 And he said to me, “These words are trustworthy and true. And the Lord, the God of the spirits of the prophets, has sent his angel to show his servants what must soon take place.”
Revelation 22:10 “And he said to me, “Do not seal up the words of the prophecy of this book, for the time is near.”
Revelation 1:19 (YLT) “Write the things that thou hast seen, and the things that are, and the things that are about to come after these things”
Notice John was not given prophecies for the distant future. He wrote of things that must soon take place because the time was near. In 1:19 he was told to write about past, present, and things about to come.
The Father was the only one who knew the day and hour in AD 30. By the time AD 60-70 came He had revealed the imminent time of the end to every inspired apostle and their audiences.
Trust the exclusive and imminent time statements given to the first century audiences. The Father knew exactly how to communicate to His people living during the last days of the Mosaic age.
We live in the prophecied Messianic age. Biblical eschatology has been fulfilled.
By about AD 60 had anyone been informed of the coming day and hour that was previously only known by the Father?
Peter wrote to those of the twelve tribes dispersed among the nations. He informed them:
1 Peter 4:7
“The end of all things is near; therefore be self-controlled and sober-minded for the sake of your prayers.”
James wrote to the same dispersed tribes:
James 5:7-9
“Be patient, therefore, brothers, until the coming of the Lord. See how the farmer waits for the precious fruit of the earth, being patient about it, until it receives the early and the late rains. 8 You also, be patient. Establish your hearts, for the coming of the Lord is near. 9 Do not grumble against one another, brothers, so that you may not be judged; behold, the Judge is standing at the door.”
James told them to be patient and wait until the Lord comes. He then said His coming was near, He was standing at the door. (Read Mt. 24:32-34 with these verses in mind).
Had John been informed about the time of the day and hour?
1 John 2:18
“Children, it is the last hour, and as you have heard that antichrist is coming, so now many antichrists have come. Therefore we know that it is the last hour.”
He taught his audiences that they were living in the time of the last hour based on the signs they’d observed.
What about Paul?
Romans 13:11-12
“Besides this you know the time, that the hour has come for you to wake from sleep. For salvation is nearer to us now than when we first believed. 12 The night is far gone; the day is near. So then let us cast off the works of darkness and put on the armor of light.”
He reminded the Roman church that they knew the time, the hour of the resurrection had come, salvation was near, and the day was near. It’s pretty obvious Paul had received revelation from the Father about the previously unknown day and hour. And they were near for him and his audiences.
Trust the inspired time statements.
Sound theology and eschatology comes from correct exegesis and hermeneutics of Sacred Scripture. May we learn to let Scripture speak for itself. Knowledge of Old Testament language is indeed necessary in understanding our Lord's words in Matthew 24. And you did this clearly in this video, Brother! Thank you for sharing! God bless you!
Since the scriptures teach that the coming of the Son of Man in his kingdom would occur while some of his Disciples were still alive, (MT 16:28 & MT 10:23); what scriptural authority do we have for waiting and anticipating for a yet future coming?
Well, I think you know my answer on that. I think it’s the fact they we are still looking forward to a future resurrection.
@@BiblicalStudiesandReviews how do humans get into Heaven?
In a physical or spiritual body?
If we believers are immediately in His presence when we leave our bodies
Surely that is Resurrection ~ The Lifting/Raising Up!
We are made by God to be like Him!
God is Spirit!
Not a man. (Physical)
Jesus returned to Divine Spirit and fills The Heavens!
No mind has conceived what God has for us! 🧐
So
Obviously not what we already are and know!
@@P.H.888 I don’t think heaven is our ultimate destination. I think in our resurrected bodies we will be living on the New Earth
@@BiblicalStudiesandReviews This is the futurist error, imposing their idea, a view, on what something looks like and then saying it has to be the future because they haven't seen their view happen yet. There's nothing in the Bible to suggest the resurrection would be a long time in coming. As Christ completed his work, there's no reason for the resurrection to be a long time in coming. In the resurrection, we'll have heavenly bodies, which implies the Earth won't be our place of residency after the resurrection, which means we shouldn't expect to see the resurrection of people who have already died even if they have been resurrected.
@@P.H.888the angels are spirit also and have a body, and Daniel describes God , the Ancient of Days , He has a body, because of it you have a body, you ve been made in His image.
Sounds interesting in seeing his coming from a different perspective. But how do you reconcile that his coming in Daniels is to the ancient of Days, while in Matthews it keeps making reference towards the earth down to man? just curios
However, Matthews 24: 30-31 " Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and THEN ALL THE TRIBE OF THE EARTH WIIL mourn, and THEY WILL SEE the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And HE WILL SEND HIS ANGELS with a great sound of a trumpet, and THEY WILL GATHER together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
This is too brief of an answer to your excellent question. But I think the SIGN of the coming of the son of man to the ancient of Days is tied to the destruction of the temple. Daniel 7 is an enthronement text.
As far as Matthew 24:30-31, I think the disciples would have heard the Old Testament resonances. “Tribes of the land” would be a better translation in my view. The tribes of Israel namely. The ingathering would have naturally made them think of passages like Psalm 107:3. The hope of the diaspora being regathered would have been the natural idea to them. This regathering of the diaspora has found an ultimate and superseding fulfillment in the church.
Thank you for a very well presented video and with your open and honest interpretations of the verses discussed. I just have one question to ask you: since you kind of acknowledge that Matthew24 & related verses are languages of Jesus' second coming AND you also said you believe there will be another yet future coming of Jesus, then in my mind, you are actually believing in total THREE comings of Jesus, am I right? I don't see three comings being taught in the bible at all. In other words, I can understand two positions: (1) futurists who believe in the first coming which happened and a yet future second coming (which in my personal opinion is not supported by scriptures); and (2) full preterists (of which I am one) who believe the first coming and the second coming (AD70) had happened already. The above is just for discussion purposes with you. You are doing a great job to share your journey of seeking the truth. The Lord bless and keep you brother!
Thanks! Thanks for your gracious comment. I hope some of my other videos where I explain why I don’t take a full preterist position don’t offend you. Revelation 2:5 is a good example of how I understand the word “coming” contexts like this. I think there not merely 1 or 2 comings in judgment but multiple visitations of judgments (Ex 19 the Lord in a sense came to Egypt) But I do think there will be a bodily return of Christ as well (usually called “the second coming” but I think this is confusing terminology.)
Your comments are so gentlemanly there is no way I would be offended. I have been discussing full Preterism for five years with three Christian brothers who are "adamant" futurists and we are still talking.
Just a few quick response/sharing to your comments above:
1. My view is that the bible does not actually teach a " bodily return" of Christ. Acts 1:11 which uses "hon tropon" for " just as the same way", as used in a few other bible verses, is a symbolic expression. I recommend a video by Travis Drum who did a video on this topic.
2. Although there may be several judgements recorded in the bible on Israel and other nations, I see that when it relates to Christ's coming, there are only two comings (appearing) according to Hebrews 9:28.
3. The Olivet Discourse and the book of Revelation are talking about the same coming and judgement on Israel. For example Matthew 16:27 = Revelation 22: 12 (to repay each person.....).
Just sharing what I have learned with you, hope you don't mind it's a bit lengthy😂. Have a great weekend brother! The LORD BLESS you!
What do you do with verses 31-33
Good lesson. I went from partial to full preterist. It's all been fullfilled!!
Went from the frying pan into the fire.
From partial truth to full truth.
You went from the frying pan into the fire. You had better rethink Matt.24:30. That's not the 2nd coming at all. This is the fulfillment of Matt.23. and Jesus 7 woe oracles against His enemies, the pharisees in 1st century Jerusalem.!!!! There is no 2nd coming in the Olivet Discourse!!!!!
@@davidwoods6015 Why not expand our perspective and include the entire NT?
Jesus told His disciples that they would know when He was near, standing at the door, and that it would occur in their generation. (Mt. 24:32-34)
Later, every inspired apostle taught their audiences that the end was near. During the time of their generation, James informed the twelve tribes scattered among the nations that the coming of the Lord was near, the Judge was standing at the door. (James 5:7-9)
Peter, James, John, Jude and Paul all taught the end of the age as about to be, near, shortly or soon to their audiences.
Trust the exclusive and multiple time statements regarding the end. Biblical eschatology is focused on the end of the OC Mosaic age and the full establishment of the NC Messianic age. All prophecy has been fulfilled.
@@davidwoods6015 The first century audiences were taught two comings of Christ. Once to be the sacrifice for sin, the second time to bring salvation.
Hebrews 9:27-28
“And just as it is appointed for man to die once, and after that comes judgment, 28 so Christ, having been offered once to bear the sins of many, will appear a second time, not to deal with sin but to save those who are eagerly waiting for him.”
Do we know when the day of salvation was to occur according to Scripture?
Romans 13:11-12
“Besides this you know the time, that the hour has come for you to wake from sleep. For salvation is nearer to us now than when we first believed. 12 The night is far gone; the day is at hand. So then let us cast off the works of darkness and put on the armor of light.”
Paul reminded the Roman believers that they knew the time, the hour had arrived, salvation was near, and the day was at hand.
Why reject this clear teaching?
What part of "Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom" don't you understand?
Good teaching, many Theologians, preachers, teachers has tought by lateral interpretations, rather they understanding Old Testament language was Apocalyptic language...that's why The book of Revelation is confusing to most Christians.
Clouds show HIS way explains the change of kings and judgement brought in that moment
What was it ciaiphas saw? Was it what he perceived from Pentecost onwards in the disciples. Was that the 'coming from now on'
The transfer of power, the destruction, was that the sign of the coming, of his arrival when He puts his foot up on the footstool?
Where have you landed on the Rapture if any? Thank You
I’m in favor of it!
However, I don’t see much evidence to suggest that there is a secret coming of Christ prior to the second coming. So I do believe that followers of Christ will rise to meet the Lord in the air, but I see this as one event at the end of this age.
@@BiblicalStudiesandReviews well said the more I study the more I lean this way . RC really brought some clarity for me.
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It speaks volumes that in John's Gospel he never speaks about the fulfillment of these prophecies, only the mention of the "Eschati" Imera (last day), and resurrection. This tells me everything except the resurrection of the dead has already occurred. Acts of the Apostles comes close to showing this with the expectation of "restoring the Kingdom" to Israel. The new Israel is born from Pentecost and the Holy Spirit; the temple is prophesied to be destroyed, and Paul's teachings to the Gentiles complete the process of ushering in the New Earthly Kingdom with a heavenly hope.
Thanks for sharing! Blessings!
What do u think of Matthew 25 (judgment of the sheep and goats)? Most preterists don't comment on it. Is it past? It would really need to be because Matthew 24-25 are all the same Olivet discourse. In chapter 25, Jesus has arrived on the earth and is bringing forth judgment.
Yeah it’s a good question. I’ve thought about it a fair bit. I’m open minded on it. I’m inclined to think that it points beyond AD 70.
@@BiblicalStudiesandReviews"when the Son of Man comes and all his angels with him, then he will sit on his throne." (mt25)
Very significant if that's future. Yet, earlier, the disciples asked "what would be the signs of his coming" and chapter 24 says "they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he will send out his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other."
It seems like 24 and 25 are same event. It is the same sermon, same context. It speaks of the Son of man coming with his angels in both chapters. If 25 is yet future , it means at least some of the details in Olivet discourse are yet future. This would then be a challenge for "this generation" not passing away until all these things take place if some of those things are indeed still future.
Just some food for thought