Boox Go 10 3 vs Remarkable 2 - Has Boox Just Retired the RM2?
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- Опубліковано 7 вер 2024
- A deeper look at the Boox Go 10.3 compared to the Remarkable 2 for real world use.
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I've been waiting for someone to sell theirs second hand in Brisbane, Australia. I found with remarkable, Rm2 and other devices, there is usually an influx of sales around semester break/school break.
My wife will be taking the rm2 and I'll be getting my hands on a go 10.3 today, very excited!!
Based on all the reviews I have completely dismissed the Boox line of products and I was waiting for the Supernote A5X2 to drop before the 10.3 came along. The Boox 10.3 just managed to "retire" everything else on the market for me. I am ordering one right now. Onyx managed to create the exact, almost no-compromise product I wanted (the compromise: writing latency, hopefully they will improve on that with an update).
I have a Go 10.3, and really I use it exactly as you said. If I'm reading, I'm reading. If I'm using it as a notebook, that's what I'm doing. It is a solo desvice for some tasks and a companion device with the computer in others. But having the ability to tap into several different eco systems of digital books (Kindle, Logos Bible) is crucial. And recently, I've started to use Readwise to house all of my highlights from Kindle and using the Readwise Reader on the Boox lets me import ePubs or PDFs to highlight and have those highlights stored away from the documents themselves. It works great and the screen is fantastic. I find myself reading more than I did on the Note Air 3 C because I think the light (or the Color layer over the top) just made it subtly unpleasant, where this device just works well. And I haven't missed the front light at all, but your mileage will vary on that.
How does it work with Logos for you?
I've been a bit put off the Go because of lack of frontlight so it's interesting to hear you haven't missed it. Perhaps I'll give it a go.
@@faustoliriano6518 sorry, missed this. It works well for Logos. Have to tweak it to get it to run how I like and it’s of course the mobile version, but it allows me to read and highlight my Logos library far more comfortably than reading on the computer or phone.
Very nicely articulated. The rM2 is still a beautiful device that does one thing very well, and that’s an appealing prospect. But for a growing number of users, that one thing isn’t enough.
Thanks to you now have a Palma, a Go 10.3 and my wife has (after she stole it) a Tab Mini C. Still here watching the videos though - great content as always, and always with a gem or two of info I'd missed even in a product comparison video like this (never though about accessing Google docs or Office through the Go before)
@@frooglepete hahaha, wives are always stealing Tab Mini Cs!
LMAO! "what can the reMarkable do that the Boox doesn't... well, nothing" 😂 Brilliant!
I am really enjoying mine. Sure an improvement over the remarkable. Although the boox is a bit more difficult in use compared to the remarkable.
I actually got the Boox GO 10.3, having been a remarkable 2 user. I am very technical and can help myself to setup a device to my liking. I believe Boox is missing on user experience simplicity for the average user. I believe the setup process along with the app ecosystem makes the remarkable way much easier to use on a daily basis. if you just need a device to take notes and do basic things, the RM2 would still win. Certainly, Boox gives lots of flexibility but again it's not as good as the Apple ecosystem either, so they have to spend more resources in that area.
My advice to Boox is to focus on designing the software (UX) for a non-technical users then add in the advanced options in the background. While i don't have a Supernote, it seems they have done a better job at that from reading their documentation and the videos out there.
What kind of issues have you encountered?
@@doncristobal33 these are all relative observations. Transferring and organizing files on the remarkable is much simpler. I can combine PDFs and notes in the same folders if related. I can natively share by email on the remarkable etc. As I said for a techie, the boox has many options but many times I just want to take notes and that’s it. For more complex stuff I usually use the Apple ecosystem.
@@larklandmorley thanks, I just tried it this afternoon and quite liked the writing feel, but hard to judge the ux with 15 min. Not sure if I should go for this or wait for A5X2
@@larklandmorleyThanks for your review, in terms of writing feeling is the RM2 really much better ?
My rm2 got stolen. I considered buying it again - 620 euros for the config it was in! referral program has ended. boox go 10.3 is 200 bucks less than that. and it offers a crispy screen. the rm2's sync and wifi integration was terrible for me, could never put rm2 into eduroam for example. when i want to download a research paper, rm2 needs me to download it on a phone or pc and upload it to the app and then sync. on boox, i go to a browser and download it. the rm2 updates have predominantly focused on the type folio - it is a handwriting device! give me features for that - geometric shapes. jesus, boox has shapes. I ordered a boox go 10.3 and will receive it in a couple of days.
The RM2 is more expensive, even including exchange rate and shipping to Australia. The Boox is just better for money, and i love it. I have upgrade from a Kindle Paperwhite 2018 though, haha. Being Android is a huge plus for me too, as i can do so much more. Reading on the Boox is just amazing, and the writing is great in notes, and my kid loves it. Just being able to use it like a newspaper too with puzzles like mazes and crosswords when opening a pdf is great too. I have shown a few people the device and they think its great. I do agree that the screen refresh could be better, but i understand the limitations and i am fine for that. Ive found the refresh speed means i slow down a bit, dont browse the internet on it, thats what my phone is for. So as long as i stick to the more focused, slower tasks, this device is fantastic.
I think the biggest let down, is that there are no other First or Third party cases for it yet and so I'm stuck with the default. Ordering Pens is annoying because I can't test them on the tablet before i buy them.
I think Remarkable has made Remarkable obsolete. I agree Kit, that the folks at RM must have a device sitting in the wings, but they are sure milking the RM2 for all it can while people are starting to look elsewhere.
Haha, that's one way to look at it! I think you are entirely correct though!
almost 4 years without any hardware update... but they've got money to pay for other influential UA-camrs to do review at this stage says a lot about this company
I currently have both, the Boox since approx one week.
For my use case - simple offline note taking - the reMarkable still does a damn good job.
The Boox has some nice features (simple change of pencils, simple lasso),
but on the other hand, it does have some issues with ghosting.
The integration of the PlayStore is really nice, but indeed it is not needed for my usecase.
I still prefer the remarkable2, there’s something special about it, from how the case folds in on itself to the texture on the marker pen to how premium and polished everything feels to how impossibly thin it is. I think their keyboard is a distraction, what I really miss is full text search of my handwritten notes. Not having that is frustrating. Even the Scribe lets you export your notebooks with full handwritten text search.
Most of the Boox feels like a workaround on top of a workaround, the adjusting the speed constantly, manually refreshing, the Android apps not being optimised for eink etc.
Thank for another excellent comment on new Go 10.3.
Question though. You have mentioned in several videos you are using OneNote on Boox devices. As math teacher I’m considering buying Go 10.3 specifically for inking math equations during the day and later in evening converting ink-to-math on PC. Do you think OneNote on Go (or Note Air 3) is responsive enough to prepare pages and pages of equations on free moments during the day?
Yeah, definitely responsive enough. Is that ink to maths available in one note? That's a workflow I've got to try!
@@KitBetts-Masters Yes, ink-to-math is available on onenote. Unfortunately only on PC with Microsoft365 subscription. That's the reason for workflow where notes could be written on android device, but conversion to formula elements and copy/paste to word or powerpoint has to be done on PC.
See Kit, I just don't know if I agree. I have both... and trying to decide which one to get rid of. Yes I love the Boox but something just keeps pulling me back to the RM2. I think I love the fact that it is JUST a notepad. Like my many notebooks in a previous life - it does one thing, and does that well. The BIGGEST draw to the RM2 is the desktop software and the sync between the apps and the device. Boox is no where near. I do not need a device to read on, just to take notes. I much prefer my waterproof Kindle so I can read in the bath!!!
They are so close and yet so different...
Everytime, I want to buy a boox device, I somehow hesitate, because I always read, how bad Boox is treating its customers. Customer-support seems to be really bad for us average customers... It would be very interesting to make a video about this. I am so close to buying the Go 10.3 ... but again... as I try to decide, whether an insurance for this device would be a good Idea I get more and more into stories of hardware failures and really terrible customer support. In general - do you have insurance for your devices? As the Go 10.3 is so delightfully thin, it would be nice to experience this luxury without heavy cases to protect it. But after these stories I think, i might need a really heavy case and sreenprotection too... Of course - when I break it, it's my fault. But there are lots of stories, where the screens stops working on its own, because something seems to break on the inside.
btw. does anyone use screenprotection on these devices? Sounds stupid to write on a screenprotector and not use the intended, original paperlike screen-surface, but i wonder, how fragile is the screen? The device in general? And what is it all about boox's terrible service for customers...? Is it that bad? I think, as someone who just tries to get into this world of e-ink, there are a lot of interesting questions that could/should be objectively adressed. Would be nice, if you or the community here shared some experiences - always keeping possible bias towards boox in mind, as the channel is very boox-enthusiastic;)
I've had two Boox devices. I had a Boox Max Lumi which I sold because it was too big for me and I still have a Nova Air. I never put screen protectors on them and I don't put a case on them. I do use a slim felt sleeve for the Nova Air if it goes in my bag but that's it. Neither device had ever gotten scratched, tbh they seem pretty robust. I've never had any technical or hardware problems and I've never needed to contact customer support. Personally, I really like Boox devices. There not particularly intuitive UI wise but once you know what you're doing, it's fine.
Thank you so much. Your video is really helpful! :)
i recently found your channel, i absolutely love your videos! i`m a teacher too, I am curious to know how you use e-ink tablets for your work, that would be really helpful for your teacher audience =) thanks kit!!!
Fantastic Video! - Kit I truly value your videos and your Opinion. I had the Remarkable 2X and returned it both times because of the Eco-system. I want to use the E-Ink device as a Paper Notebook replacement. I have an M4 IPAD but I do NOT like the writing experience (even with PaperLike screen protector. So ….. I am back at looking at an E-Ink Device. Would you - Get the Boox (which one) or a Remarkable and fit the lack of the eco system (IE export notes as a PDF) and attach them to something else (Apple Notes, Notion etc.) or would you get the Boox, OR hold out for a Remarkable 3. I love the writing experience for the Remarkable but that is it…. There are only 3 things I would use the Boox for 1 - Meeting Notetaking, 2 - I like the idea of Kindle Books (and Notes) and Possible Reader - which I use a lot on my IPAD. Thank you!!!
Hiya, if you don't need a front light, fingerprint reader, SD card slot or colour, go for this one. If you do, then probably the note air 3c! Cheers!
ever since i started researching the world of e-ink tablets i've come to know the rm2 as the standard. even in the midst of improving technology they seem unwavering and that's not a good thing, they're slowly becoming obsolete but their social media seems oblivious to that fact. perhaps trying to milk the rm2 off reputation alone or maybe they are just arent aware. when the supernote a5x2 comes out, it'll be between that and another look at the go 10.3. At least supernote is talking about a new release whereas remarkable seems to be in their own bubble. i really want to buy a remarkable product but even with a tablet only item in the cart, i just cant get myself to checkout at full price outdated tech
Until the reMarkable 2 stops charging people to keep their own work (via a subscription service), then there's no reason anyone should ever get it. Everything else is just better.
Absolutely!
The Boox Go 10.3 doesn't just _'appear'_ to overlap the Boox Note Air 3 but land directly on top of it. Whats going on there, or am i missing something?
@@karlmunford7000 I think it's basically that they've come to the end of the 227ppi screens and we'll very likely see a Note Air 3+ with the 300ppi screen soon.
Can you try putting supernote's Feel-write 2 A5X film on boox go 10.3 ? It would be best of both the worlds, using ceramic nib , SUPERNOTE writing experience on Boox go 10.3 !!!! Please do it , entertainment plus exploration!!
I think someone tried on UA-cam not sure who.
Nice comparison, thanks. Is searching for words in handwritten notes as fast in Boox Go 10.3 as in Supernote?
Can the boox put a note and a pdf into the same folder. I had a boox previously and it couldn't. I have client folders with various things in. If it can I'm sold.
BRAVO!!!! Thank You
The problem is, I can't just hit that moon icon lol XD
Boox doesn’t have the pen tilting functionality, turning pages with drawings in note app sometimes gets too slow😢 Otherwise it would be great.
Note air 3 vs boox go 10.3??
@@turaghasan2606 Hiya, yeah, that's the big comparison at the moment. I'll certainly be producing it soon. Meanwhile I have a big Boox comparison coming even sooner!
I disagree that "the Boox is a notebook replacement if you want it to be". So is an iPad. Essentially the Boox is an e-ink iPad, not a note-taking device. I feel the power of the RM2 is that it's a single-function device, like a notebook or a mechanical watch. It's not trying to be an iPad
It's being advertised as an iPad replacement tho.
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when my RM2 breaks or gets stolen I just buy a new one, enter my Account info and my RM2 including all PDFs, eBooks and Notebooks is restored including all annotations with zero effort. In the meantime I can use the desktop and mobile app to access my information I‘ve created on my RM2. This is nothing, Boox is capable of.
You can do that in the Boox as well. There’s both boox account cloud backup as well as others like google drive, onedrive, etc.
That's not accurate. I use Boox and I just back everything up, when I get a new device I download it all via Boox account. (Had a Max Lumi switched to a Nova Air).