@@RedDotInABlueState91Grifting is when you support your livelihood with skippable sponsors and make a video about not letting doomerism lead to political inaction
@@ballisticalrift If Adam is so devastated and shocked by the results of the election, after claiming to be optimistic, then why is he so eager to post links for sponsors? If I was him, that's the last thing that would be on my mind, especially knowing that my viewers are mourning.
@@RedDotInABlueState91oh look I found a Nazi supporter and if you try and argue I don't support Nazis just remember you voted with them and you have the same agenda as them and you have the same goals as them you are a Nazi I'm sorry to break your heart
@@RedDotInABlueState91 In that video, he urged people to get involved with their communities and provide direct action. Also, he’s not allowed to put a skippable sponsor he would’ve put in the next podcast to support himself just because the election outcome was dogshit ??? You’re clearly terminally online, and Idk why I made this comment like it would do something
I think at this point all employers in the entire country should no longer be allowed to perform background checks. Since a convicted felon can be President then felons should be able to have any other job in the country also.
As i listened to trumps talking points and campaign promises i kept thinking. "Truely everyone is hearing this guy right? Deregulation? DEPORTATION? Dismantling of ACA and department of education?! Surely americans are smart enough to see this why this is a bad idea... truly.." i was horrified that everyone was like, "yeah i dont care lulz!!"
I hate that now if I see my doctor I’m going to have to ask her WHEN medications were approved for use Because I can’t trust anything that will be approved under RFK
XD Fancy seeing you here. And yeah, a lot of people were focused more on the singular self. I know my mil was convinced that if Trump didn't win she wouldn't be able to retire in the next year. They don't care about the bigger picture, they only care about their own immediate wants.
Based on what I've heard and this video also underlined this, we will soon find out whether people will actually go, "I don't care what's happening. I'm all good." or if the overwhelming response will be, "Thank god this is happening. Deportation, deregulation, etc. are long overdue."
This was a really good guest. Very honest about what's going on right now said in a non-sensationalist way. "Things will be ok" is NOT what we want to hear right now. Racists and bigots just gained power through a majority rule and we have to be honest about that.
I've heard Jamelle Bouie in various interviews here and there....mostly on NPR I feel like. And I always liked what I heard. But this is the first real long interview I've heard (and seen) with him....and I'm officially a Jamelle fan! What a smart insightful human being. Maybe it's due to the shock of the election, but I SO appreciate the lack of sugar coating and the direct talk, while also not being hyperbolic. This is THE best assessment of what we can expect in a 2nd Trump term that I've heard yet. Just a very frank honest real conversation about the good, the bad, and the _really_ bad to come. This helped me to begin to wrap my mind around what we just went through. My mind has been a frayed raw nerve since Tuesday night. This....helped.
@@thinkharder9332 do you honestly believe trump raising tariffs, deporting latinos who pick our food, and elon who's going to gouge social security will be a better pick for our economy?
"[...] it was a terrible night for everyone who voted against him. And guess what? It was a bad night for everyone who voted *for* him too. You just don’t realize it yet."
And that is what defines the difference between most of us in this country. Those who have empathy, and those who lack it. Broadly speaking, conservatives are lacking in empathy more than other political parties. I'll probably be fine too, financially at least, but I'm still sick thinking about the next four years, and how much more the separation of church and state will be eroded away.
They will be better than most, but they'll still be hurt. Their greatest advantage is not their wealth, but rather their age. They will not live to see the full extent of the damage wrought.
@@CrashingThunder broadly speaking, lefties are narcissists. They think they're superior to everyone else. The majority of the country got tired of it and moved on. Stop making predictions on politics. Obviously you're not good at it
Ehh, W stole the election in 2000 with the help from SCOTUS right before the Sa udis did 9/11 and Obama bailed out the banks and left the people to rot so this is just par for the course.
I wish more of the NYT Editorial Board were as coherent, sober, thoughtful, and insightful as Jamelle Bouie. This discussion was really excellent from start to finish.
Registered Republican here. I voted for Kamala Harris for president, my first time voting for a democrat for president in my life. I voted for Trump in 2016, abstained in 2020, and then against him in 2024. I honestly feel like the sole reason he got reelected was that people believe they’ll be financially better off. They truly believe Trump will lower the cost of bread and milk, for example. It’s selfish and delusional. He’s a narcissist and he should not be leading our country.
A former Republican who's a Nintendo fan is kind of ... a wild combination to see... Just kidding, I'm glad at least you see tRump for who he is. I think the problem with conservatives / Republican in general (not talking about you, just an observation) is that they lack *empathy*. They sympathize, but they don't really take a moment to try to relate. We need to change our strategy. I say we let them find out their consequences and marginalize them. We have made far right behavior too normal. I think we need to make their behavior into weird and marginalize them. There's also probably a lot of infighting within the MAGA community...
It's very refreshing that whenever Jamelle isn't sure how to respond to a question, he admits he doesn't have an objective answer. Only truly intelligent people can own up to not being fully educated on every topic or idea, in my opinion. He also takes a lot of brief pauses to think about what he's about to say, which makes him seem more articulate in his sentences as well.
This is unfortunately a perception problem though. People are simple creatures who crave simple answers where they do not exist. When people ask what the solution is to very real problems they are facing like inflation and unemployment and the Democrats (correctly) say that it's not that simple, people get frustrated and think they're trying to dodge accountability by not giving them a clear target to direct their blame toward. Whereas when they ask the same question to the Republicans, they lie and say it's because of legal and illegal immigrants overrunning the country and promise to keep them out. Build that wall etc. And people prefer that answer even though there is no significant data to support the claim. And they vote for it because they're being shown a solution that sometimes matches their existing biases and their internal logic, even though it's not true. They don't verify the information they're getting, so if they get lied to by enough people enough times, they will just accept it as their reality because of the confidence with which the lie is delivered to them. Confidence is reassuring and uncertainty is not. They falsely think that uncertainty reflects incompetence. I agree with you that Jamelle is a truly intelligent person and that I really appreciate his approach. But I also think that when it comes to politicians, especially Democrats, they need to put more effort into coming across to the average American as genuine and providing direct answers. The American education system has been completely gutted over the years, hyper focusing on career preparation for STEM professions while ignoring the humanities that are meant to teach students how to recognize biases, verify sources, think critically about the information they are given and parse statistics in a meaningful way.
How can you guys say this, but then use "I have a concept of a plan" as a bad answer when it's obviously a very complicated and nuanced problem to try to improve the country's national health system?
Cannot agree more. And I have beening feeling this since the last decade, and this is the culmination. In many ways, this is the start point when everything that was morally bad is now normal to do and to expect. Societies, countries are speeding downhill now. I am very disturbed. I am not a US citizen nor live there.
@@user-mgtpthe truth is that almost EVERY person who supports Trump is locked in a narcissistic torture situation, and we all suffer for it because the worst thing to have is a malignant narcissist have access to so many people.
So true. Why be a good person? All that happens it that you get chewed out and screwed over, and your sacrifice almost means nothing. Very pessimistic, but it’s hard to overcome that mindset when this is our reality
Sorry, no, this is not like Reagan. When Reagan was in office, I felt outnumbered, but I didn't feel dehumanized or hated. I didn't feel like the Reagan wanted me and every other Democrat in the country in prison, deported, or dead.
@@ashebarley77385 Please review Trump's comments from the past 4 years. EDIT: AND his cohorts. He is putting people into office that have spewed literal hate speech and spiteful plans.
Maybe like 10-15 years ago I saw someone commenting on social media about the negative economic state for Millennials "Our generation is going to "retire" eating dog food if we do not get involved and change the system." ... looks like we're eating dog food... if we can even afford that.
As a millenial with two dogs, what foolish optimism to think I would be capable of affording dog food when I retire at 85, 10 days after I have died at work and have finally been located.
Part of why 'Millenials' haven't seemed to get involved is that those of us who knew how or were able to figure out how to get involved did. The rest either didn't know how and couldn't figure it out, or in some few cases were kept by their circumstances from getting involved. But it's not just Millenials. It's Gen X too. It's Gen Z too. It's Boomers too. It's ALL of us. We have ALL let ourselves and each other down. We ALL need to do better. We ALL need to step up and put in the elbow grease to make things better. We've seen it CAN be made better. We know it's possible to make things better. We just have to do the work. It's going to be hard. It's going to be tiring. We're going to need to take the occasional break while some one else steps up to take up the slack for a day or two. But we're going to have to work together. ALL of us. We can fix this. It may take a generation. But we CAN fix it.
Yeah, things probably won't be that different under Trump, will things be worse for most Americans? YES! But we were already moving there anyway, maybe he will be able to go full dictator, but probably not. He really isn't popular among the American oligarchs who aren't a crypto-bro, the rest know they can always get tax breaks from someone else. Even his plans to rig the next election with Project 2025 are probably going to be shot down by everyone who will lose their power and influence from that thing.
We were certainly deluding ourselves to the ammount of hate and violence in our fellow Americans' hearts. We wanted to believe it was just a vocal minority, but that's impossible now.
GUYS RELY ON COMMUNITY!! DO NOT EVER LET TRUMP AND HIS FANS AND POLICIES GET YOU DOWN! More than ever we need to undo American Individualism. Care about your community and remember to protest! FIGHT!
@@xx_somescenecath0lic_xx888 That's the same thing I was told by you guys in November 2016, I was promised Trump would start WW3, that he would be a dictator. None of those things happened in his first term. But now it will, right? Why? Your idea of becoming educated seems to be let your favorite content creators scare the crap out of you with Left Wing lies so they can grift you for money and views. America has had enough of your fear mongering.
This is, quite frankly, incredibly terrifying! I'm only ten minutes in and we're talking about massive swathes of how we function as a society just being torn away, and almost certainly replaced with far more regressive, repressive, and restrictive alternatives. I know Adam has been championing getting out and starting the ground game but... it feels overwhelming to think all of this can be stopped when over half the nation seems to support it. EDIT: Alright, I finished the video. I think I understand the viewpoint a little better now. You're seeing things from larger timespans and not necessarily seeing things fixed in your lifetime. That's a hard pill to swallow but... I think I can get behind it.
They’re gonna get hurt and regret it, while others will blame a scapegoat. If you can just start with building a community of like minded individuals and start from there.
Honestly finding comunity and being with people who leggit wanna take action will motivate you far more than anything. Creating conection is one of the most important things you can do in this times because standing sholuder to shoulder with people who love you and care for what you care about is essential to take action. Start small, care for something, find something you love, music, comedy, art, anime, whatever it is that moves you and drives you, and you will find people who also love and care for something and they’ll become your people, it’ll become a common ground, talk to them, really talk to them and find more things you can love and can protect together, lift eachother up and create as much as you can to express what you feel and protect what you love, together.
I would say this is a worse case scenario but he painted a very good picture of history and how we are domed to either repeat it or at least cycle back to it. I tend to just stick to my neighborhood, and I don't travel to areas of this country especially in the south or in rural areas. But I was like that before this election so I don't know.
if it helps any, just watched another video that explained how voting statistics are technically incorrect; in this election, about 55% of people went out to vote, around 21 percent voted for Kamala, and around 24 percent voted for Trump; they show those statistics as "46% for Kamala, 54% for Trump" on AP, but it's not like over half your neighbors wanted him as president; 24 percent of people wanted him as president. Everybody else either voted third party in a First-Past-the-Post system, or didn't vote for whatever reason. *shrugs* I think most people are genuinely decent, don't let the conflated statistics make you feel like your neighbors are out to get you. Community is everything. :) (i'm sure my percentages are off btw, that was before the final votes were tallied, but the principle holds true)
Elon Musk already said that everyone is going to have to go through a period of economic hardship for long term prosperity. Musk is heavily into crypto and Trump made a point of courting the crypto community and has plans of establishing a crypto reserve. I am a professional stock, futures, and bond trader of over 40 years, but never got involved in crypto. I recently began listening to podcasts by Don Olson, a crypto expert and critic. What I learned about crypto is truly frightening. It is not decentralized as advertised, but controlled by a handful of crypto “whales.” Like all “money” post Bretton-Woods, it is a mechanism of social control and engineering, issued by the US Government through the Department of the Treasury and Federal Reserve System. The long game under Trump, is to replace the current system with a privatized crypto scheme after crashing the economy. The “whales” under this new Central Bank Digital Currency, will be under the control of the billionaire technocrats like Peter Theil, Koch Industries, Jeff Bezos, Elon Musk who wants to be the worlds first trillionaire, John Paulson, Jamie Dimon, and a host of other 1 percenters.
This won't work because China or some other nation will become the global economic superpower, so it won't lead to a crypto-controlled market; rather, it would be something other than the U.S. dollar that sets the global financial standard, such as the Yen or Euro or something.
That's horrifying that how they're going to crash the economy but sadly makes sense since cryptocurrency has been influencing both Democrats and Republicans this election
@ronjoseph7973 what's the point of being a trillionare if you tank the dollar amount so much that trillions is just equivalent of a billion in today's money?
Not really. “I told you so” requires the person to have thinking skills. They’ll never get it. They’ll be losing everything and place blame on everything but the actual cause. Victim culture. There’s not going to be a teaching moment.
That's what we thought would happen with Brexit in the UK, we're now many years in, 4%GDP permanently erased, thousands of businesses closed down, hundreds of thousands of people dependent on food banks, yet nobody wants to talk about it... client media is a bitch... they wanna blame it all on Covid or Ukraine or most amusingly the EU! They will never admit they wrecked the country, and i fear you'll get the same response from the magical thinking bad faith people who've seized control of your system. It'll all be Biden's fault, or the migrants. Remember, these people can never be wrong, and it's always somebody else's fault...
I’m in my mid 40s I realize at this point any real change from Trumpism may not even happen in my lifetime. And I have to wonder if the sadness I feel is at all the same as when people my age saw people throw away the new deal in favor or Reagan trickle down economics and Neo liberalism Except this may be even more destructive than Reagan
@@BufordTGleason Trump will have been able to appoint a majority (and possibly a super majority) of Supreme Court justices by the time this term ends. That alone will mean his influence will linger over our country for a generation And not just that, but a lot of our government is just held together by the ethics and good will of those in charge, there's no gaurentee that we'll be able to vote them out.
@ thing is I do expect Thomas and Alito to retire to clear the way for younger justices If they do that’s already a 5-4 Trump majority. 6-3 if Sotamayor passes during Trump’s term
I am struck by how wrong I was about who we are as a country and the really sad thing is that I am still giving us too much credit. Even now, I keep thinking "Boy, they are gonna be shocked when they lose their xyz" as if they didn't choose to lose it. They did make a choice. All the information was there. Trump is not a mystery. They published Project 2025. Trump held a gazillion rallies where he said the quiet part out loud dozens of times.
They ignored it. They heard it and he made it seem like it was good. I think he thinks it's good or they didn't think he'd do it. Our only hope is that he doesn't deliver.
I was at first, but then I started thinking about the messaging I heard in church when I was a kid. Nope, every day Americans have always been fascists. They were just more polite about it and hid it behind dog whistles.
People want solidarity & no longer tolerating those that are not like them. There's been a more visible effort for inclusion. And that's very uncomfortable. It feels like a loss.
This election has confirmed to me my already existing desire to get involved in making change. One thing that was said that resonates with me is that finding the story will happen on the ground as we try to rebuild connections. Building connections has been on my mind because every meaningful change in my thinking has come from connection to those who are different than I am. That's where I want to start; building connections with others.
This is so sobering. I wish people would listen when smart people speak. Thank you for having these conversations Adam. Brilliant guest. I’m trying to be optimistic but it all feels so bad right now.
Imagine. If most people sought to be well informed, we just wouldn't be in this situation. I think we are in this situation because our education systems have failed to teach people not to repeat our history.
Jamelle said that Trump voters will likely not correlate their loss of Medicaid (and other things) to Trump, which is exactly why Progressives and Democrats need to make sure they hear that very correlation. They need to hear over and over and over, their life has gotten worse because of their vote for Trump. Democrats and Progressives need to get MUCH BETTER at marketing and pushing the narrative well before election time. You can't expect to be successful at persuasion 3 months before an election.
I'm a daca recipient. I have a job, follow the law, pay my taxes and my reward is this. This is my wake up call to leave the country. Unfortunately, a majority of America hates immigrants. This WAS the country of immigrants. This WAS a melting pot.
No they hate the new ones that just came in that have MORE rights than you and are not benefiting to society. These folks are definitely not the ones we want only a small percentage are here on good will. A lot are actually criminals or entitled lazy immigrants.
@@avalokiteshvara113 Do your best to get a trade certification. Thats what i'm doing. Canada has something called express entry. It lets people with certain skills like trades(also called vocational) an easier way to enter.
@@alexreyes8749Just as a warning do it sooner than later since Canada is starting to cut down on how many people they allow in and we're still at risk in the next few years of our version of MAGA like politicians taking over federally
Lifelong atheist here. I can only speak for myself, but I never for one second saw this guy as anything but a wannabe fascist and maniac. And I've had to watch this movement inculcate the right, and now the government, with Christian nationalism. When he made the announcement a few days back that his admin would be pursuing prayer in public schools it broke my heart. I feel the pain of atheist kids, and minority religious kids in the future who will be steeped in an environment that makes them feel unwelcome in school. I already felt that way in California growing up, and that isn't exactly the Bible Belt.
We are so fucked. This election just set our country back at LEAST 30 years. As a socialist I feel unsafe in expressing my political beliefs among my peers. I completely get not wanting to vote FOR Dems/Harris. But I will never understand NOT voting AGAINST FASCISM/Repubs/Trump 😣
Who do you feel unsafe avocating for Universal health care or basic income around? In my experience the only danger topics are things to do with race like affirmative action or DEI, or gay/trans issues. The only negative response I receive form the former topics is a generally dismissive tone that suggests I am too naive for the real world.
@@maknavickasit doesn’t matter what you say. You bring up how Trump will defund ACA and they retort with “we shouldn’t be funding Ukraine! We need to focus on reducing abortions to increase our population instead of funding Ukraine.” And if you continue arguing, it will get more heated.
Not just a generation I’m 65 and I have never seen an assault on my personal rights let alone all of our countries rights. This is bad. I have three granddaughters that I do not want to leave this earth without protecting.
Find out what really moves them, because hey obviously in cognitive dissonance denial on what the topic of the conversation was about, but there must be something deeper.
Trump exaggerates Kamala lies I think Trump won because with him you know what your getting, Kamala didn't actually have any solid policies for example. Guns Kamala advocated for more gun restrictions but also stated she isnt going to restrict guns any further. Im guessing in an attempt to win over gun owners that are independents. But her contradicting statements make her seem like she doesn't have actual policies.
It's called hyperbole. I'm not sure how the left hasn't been able to track Trump's speaking manner, and when to take him seriously and when to roll your eyes. It's not even hard.
@@nicholasrova3698 can you expand on that? What are the tell signs? Please not the answer if its just to implausible. I learned to take him seriously in.. he is going to try what he says, he might fail tough and when he boasts, yes he is boasting but he will do it in principle... except maybe "lock her up", he didnt even try to.
I’m so ashamed of my fellow American citizens. Have they not been listening? Do they not understand that he is for his own dynasty and he always has been
@@nicholasrova3698 There are a lot of reasons Trump won. However he's still a pathological lying felon and wannabe dictator who only cares about 3 things 1)himself 2)money 3)himself again. I can see why he won although I disagree with most of it, here's why he was elected: 1) Christian nationalists who see Christianity dying and see Trump as a last-ditch effort to gain legislative power 2) identity politics - people vote red no matter what (aka. Republicanity) 3) the flyover states see themselves as “real America” and feel under-represented 4) the electoral college gives the smaller states more seats/power 5) Republicans gerrymandered districts 6) Hollywood (and corporate America) has been taken over by left-wing activist writers and producers pushing DEI and "woke" garbage and people are tired of it. Multiple billion-dollar franchises were ruined due to culture-wars (Disney Star Wars, Marvel, Lord of the Rings, Ghostbusters, Terminator) 7) strong anti-immigration sentiments and xenophobic/racist rhetoric (want stronger border & mass deportation for illegals) 8) conspiracy theorists (the average Republican feels the previous election was "stolen") 9) Christians who view abortion as baby-murder 10) 20% of American investors own Crypto and Trump said he’d give it government backing 11) right-wing media is brutally effective in their messaging 12) lack of leadership and lack of messaging on the Democratic side 13) Elon Musk and Joe Rogan endorsed Trump (helps bring in the male 18-34 vote) 14) anger at the govt shutdown during the pandemic 15) voters wanted CHANGE at all costs, even if it means burning down “the system” 16) cost of living is way up (food, housing, gas) so voters blame the party in charge 17) the bullet that grazed Trump’s ear (Christians will see as a sign from God) 18) the average American hates MSM (mainstream media) ever since Trump called CNN “fake news,” so most Americans get their news from FOX and other right-wing echo chambers, causing political illiteracy. 19) Social media also creates echo chambers (the algorithm feeds you more of what you like) 20) anger at Israel and the Gaza war/genocide. Also, Trump said he'd stop the Ukraine war and the average American is selfish and doesn't want to spend billions of dollars on other countries. 21) Kamala failed to distinguish herself from Joe Biden who is historically unpopular
Old man Trump aims to kill off his generation. I’m 67. I fear for my generation. Soon our healthcare will be gone and likely Social Security. How many seniors will lose their safety net, their security, food, their health, their homes, and their very lives. How many will simply end it all rather than face this very bleak future? I grew up with the idealism of the 1960s that America will always get better. Maybe by fits and spurts, but always trend upward. That trend has ended and is diving off a cliff and Americans will go over it like lemmings.
How is "killing off his generation" nessecarily a bad thing. The world is becoming top heavy with old people, less social security and healthcare would make it cheaper for younger people. More housing as older generations leave this world. It's dark but it does give opportunity for new generations. His racism and sexism is horrible, but this could open up for more opportunity for the youth. Regulations, healthcare, wages etc, don't nessecarily have to be fought for by the government. As the old generation dies out, the new work force can unionize and demand regulations, worker safety, healthcare etc.
@ You’re accusing Trump of being racist and sexist, yet you are, like your lame, do-nothing generation, are supremely narcissistic, selfish, ageist, and greedy.
Unlike that guy, my suggestion is play with pets and their blissful little lives. If you don’t have any, go to a shelter! It will not only help your mental health, but just the socialization(no cleaning or anything) is actually really helpful for the shelter
@@justkittensbeingkittens5892Yes and also rage cleaning! Listening to loud music & exercising. Staying busy working. With you in spirit I'm very sorry
The new deal came about because of the Great Depression and the government did nothing. There were Hoovervilles. People starved to death. People were homeless. Infant mortality was high.
Yeah and that's going to happen again. They're going to strip away social security, Medicare, and Medicaid. And when the second great depression happens after the ethnic cleansing and tariffs go into effect, there will be nothing to save us.
And then after the new deal people were somehow convinced that having their basic needs met and fulfilled by the government was somehow evil and the real thing that was causing them to suffer.
I am 63. I just remember Martin Sheen with all the homeless picketing in front of the white house. Reagen just let the Aids scare languish because it was affecting mostly gays. I think if we look hard, this was coming. Citizens United passed by the Supreme Court should have told us something was on the brink.
I been contemplating to see if American will come out of the damage Reagan caused. That people would be better informed on the direction to head. My fears have been that America would have a double push in the wrong direction of Neoliberalism. Things might just get really bad.
Excellent discussion. Calm, not sensational, very realistic. I've been trying to build my vision for my future around the knowledge that Trump will be president, and this video is absolutely essential for that.
Everyone misses the point about taxing billionaires, it isn't to punish them or because it will fully fund the government... it's to make sure they can't exist and thereby destroy democracy.
@@markcalhoun8219 A real Democracy wouldn't make decisions based on what's more profitable lmfao. That's an oligarchy, like we've actually always had. There are over 2000 billionaires on this planet hoarding more wealth *each* than any reasonable person could spend in *ten* lifetimes ....
I'm petrified about the immigration policies touted by the new administration as it affects me directly. The company I work for has already required me to come in next week to verify my standing and authorization to be in the US. I know that the Trump administration hasn't begun yet, but the damage control is already being felt by the working class. Being a naturalized citizen I've done my due diligence when it comes to proving myself, going through everything I had to do to make it happen, the new administration has me terrified of losing that status. Thank you for this interview, it helped me in some ways to process things.
Jesus Christ, calm down. You're a citizen, why are you even freaking out? Unless you simply don't know who Trump intends on go after and aren't aware there's a difference between an illegal immigrant and a legal one, let alone a naturalized citizen. You'll be fine.
@@nicholasrova3698I think you forget the millions of Americans that were locked away in "Jap Camps" in the 1950s. The government is and probably always will be incompetent as hell.
I came here because I think I always have something to learn, and Adam Conover never disappoints with his guests. Jamelle Bouie offers a great perspective on the history leading up to now, and that makes me feel a little less cynical.
Ben Carson wrote out the Project 2025 plans for HUD and that shit looks terrifying. If you're a single person, a minority or poor and you don't own a home already you most likely never will at this point.
BEN CARSON, CLARANCE THOMAS AND MANY BLACKS THAT THINK LIKE THEM WOULD PUT EVERYONE OF US BLACK PEOPLE BACK INTO SLAVERY BECAUSE THEY WANT TO BE THE GOOD NEGROS WHO OPPRESS AND DESTROY THEIR OWN PEOPLE 😢
no, but there's a back door around that. They can label a group as a terrorist group. Once thats done they can justify doing anything. The scary part is they plan to do just that
Protesting falls under freedom of speech (1st Amendment), so I highly doubt that. Of course riots masquerading as protests will probably see a sharp uptake in the next few months, and experience a harsh crack down. Rightfully so.
It's much nicer to be my father, who moved from hard times into the best the America had to offer, than it is to be me, who gets to watch this country go crumbly. But it was silly to think that America was exceptional, or that things would always be tolerable. I'm just going to try to make the people I care about comfortable as we fall into the abyss.
Great conversation. I came back to watching Adam for hope and inspiration through rough times not just with our country, but in my personal life as well and he has not disappointed. Thank you for what you do on this channel and everywhere!
Trumpers "we must stop the new world order and the elites!" *Elects the new world order and the elites* Trumpers "HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN!? WHY DID NOBODY WARN US!" Everyone else -_- E
So we should have just let the current elites get even more corrupt, keep lying to us, make our lives worse, and drag us into WWIII because we're too afraid to try something new?
@@greebj Harris got more billionaire and giant corporation endorsements than Trump. Also, he never said he's anti-billionaire. He's anti-establishment.
Give me a break, actions speak louder than words and the establishment and all of the government elites and the globalist wanted Harris to win, they fear Trump and tried to have him arrested on 4 separate cases. I know yall like to cosplay as “anti-establishment” but then tell me why your party out raised ours by 4:1 this election, tell me why the Hunter Biden scandal got swept under the rug by the deep state in the media. Trump is an inarguable shake up to the system and you progressives are just mad that it was us to make a meaningful change to the system while your standard bearers like sanders and Warren bent the knee to the DNC establishment. Trump never gave up like they did, he actually fought through the things they thrown at him unlike y’all. It’s always the same every election, the progressives always make a lot of noise about “fighting the establishment” but when push comes to shove your leaders cuck out and your influencers fall in line like the spineless losers they are. I was a die in the wool Bernie bro in 2016, till I saw him endorse Hillary like a coward even though he knew the game was rigged and give up on all of his principles. But I saw they way the Neo cons hated Trump that I realized he was the one who would bring change even though it may not be exactly what I wanted, it was better than the dems who insisted one keeping the dead corpse of Regan alive. It’s y’all’s fault that the Republicans are now the anti war party because you abandoned that issue because you knee jerked into opposing everything Trump did.
Thank you, I am terrified for myself, my son, my ex-wife (still have a good friendship) and many more friends and close family who are all part of the LGBTQ+ group. Its a scary time for everyone.
I got to experience all the different emotions over this the last few days and I'm no longer living in the US. Alot of family and friends I love are still in the US and going through suffer because of this. I'm trying to figure out what I can do to help my friends and family back there.
Everyone is saying that the majority of the country voted for Trump, however, In actuality, he got the same number of votes as in 2020. Kamala got the same number of votes as Obama in 2008. It’s less that Trump won big. it’s more that Kamala lost bigger.
It says a lot more about her and the prominent Democratic party than it does about Trump and the GOP. People ultimately don't want literal Trumpism; they rejected that in 2018, 2020, and 2022. But you can't fight against that with these center-right neoliberals who keep backpedaling to the middle class and advocate for wars overseas. You have to meet people where they are and PROVE to them that YOU are different from these D.C. swamp psychos. That's where Kamala Harris failed spectacularly. I hope Walz runs his own campaign in the future, I have a lot more faith in him.
@@RedDotInABlueState91 So how do you feel about women in Texas dying from abortion restrictions? You seem to like that it's happening since you voted for it, and you want more eh? Wish granted. 💀
One thing. People keep saying that a majority of Americans support Trump. No. When all the votes are counted, he'll have gotten very close to the same number of votes he did last time. His base of support didn't grow. I short, he didn't win; Kamala lost.
His replacement isn't a feckless buffoon. He's much smarter and far more dedicated to the cause. President JDV won't be stymied by his own ego and he will inherit a government that's tailored to what he wants. He is far younger and worse than Trump.
@@nathen4021 It does seem that way, doesn't it? I was surprised by Jamaile B's unblinkered view of looming explicit (to Whites) bigotry. It seems inevitable. When I was a kid, sit-coms, like The _Jeffersons_ and _Good Times_ still made use for the n-word. It's going to hit a lot differently in the coming years.
I find it significant that Trump received 4 million FEWER votes in 2024 than he did in 2020. His win doesn't appear to be a matter of a majority choosing him, but more a matter of large swaths of Democrats being either too apathetic, or too disenfranchised by Republican shenanigans, to cast their votes.
I agree, but this is something we can latch onto here. A large swath of people of Trump voters were apprehensive. We as progressives need to be receptive of that to those people and prime them for a progressive push next election when Trump inevitably does fuck up. The worst aspects of trumpism is absolutely not popular now, and after this run is done there will be a ton of pieces to pick up, but we're primed for victory next time. Undoubtedly.
The votes weren’t counted yet. It is weird how it looks like he may have not gained many votes though. Even after everything’s counted It looks like democrats didn’t show up to vote. Probably lost 5-10 million (we’ll see)
I'm German and live in Europe and was speaking with some American friends this week. It's astonishing to me that you all think it will all go down and stay down until the end of your lifetimes. In Europe there is a major revolution in a country every decade. Americans have to realize they don't have to sit things out. You can rise up.
Americans are brainwashed to believe nothing is worth it so they dont compete just continue to get high and spend all day online instead of ,empowering themselves. not to mention all the idiots who'd rather march for people that actively hate our country.
Ja, und euch steht die AfD-Revolution bevor. Keine Ahnung von welchen anderen Revolutionen du redest, die mit der völligen Allmacht von Trump vergleichbar ist. Orkan sitzt mittlerweile auch fest im Sattel
Agreed. White man in his 40s here with lots of MAGA family. My mother in law, who's a Jew, voted for Mark Robinson in NC (the guy who called himself a Black N@zi). When my wife (conservative but voted for Kamala) told my mother in law about Robinson, she had NO CLUE he said those things. There are A LOT of uninformed as well as misinformed citizens. My fear is that our technology advancements has led to information disseminating in such a way that it's not impossible to get information to certain people. That's what really scares me. I think the real test will come when (not if) the economy takes a dive. Money is the most important thing to most people and when that starts to really take damage, will our current information ecosystem lead to people blaming Trump or will there be other scapegoats. If other scapegoats, then I fear we are truly lost b/c even if free and fair elections occur, it won't matter b/c 50% of the population will never hear anything that might convince them. We shall see. Stay strong and carry on.
As a young man and someone who escaped the 1ncel rabbithole, I'm not upset that Kamala lost to Trump. I'm upset that more Americans would rather have some ultra-wealthy billionaire who has absolutely no respect for the law or his opponents or his surrounding environment as a president, than one of the most qualified w̶o̶m̶e̶n̶ people in the current US government cabinet. I'm upset that Americans don't understand the economics and how the reason why we're paying more for groceries is because of the tariffs Trump implemented in his first term. I'm upset that more Americans would rather drive their gas guzzling Ford F-250s and spend a fortune on gas anyway, than care about their community and putting effort into sustainable practices such as more jobs based off renewable energy and infrastructure. I'm upset that more Americans only care about themselves and look for the shortest and easiest answers, rather than think about the big picture and long-term implications a second Trump presidency will cause. I'm upset that more Americans would rather have a person who has inherited his father's fortune and has always lived a carefree life as a president, than a highly experienced politician who has experience in all three branches of government. I'm upset that people automatically think conservatives will automatically lower the prices of food, when many conservative politicians want to completely get rid of food stamps. I'm upset that people automatically think conservatives will automatically lower the prices of college and housing, when conservative politicians want to get rid of student loan forgiveness and make it harder for people to get a down payment. I'm upset that people in my country are against paid parental leave and universal healthcare because they think that is "punishing hard work and rewarding laziness", and therefore socialism. I'm upset that more Americans saw a guy who normalized vilifying the other political party as a better president than a candidate who did her best to gain lots of momentum. I'm upset because if all of this is not indicative of the downfall of American society, I don't know what is. As Republicans now have the presidency, the supreme court, the house and the senate, project 2025 is a reality. The downfall of the USA is 100% on the American people!
Lol border tsar kamala qualified when she got less then 2% of the vote at the dnc the term before. Yeah way to make the masses eager to vote for the candidate that literally Gabbard or Buttegieg got more votes. Try again with a better candidate that people actually voted for rather than panic and give the nomination to the least popular puppet from the race before.
I feel the same way. I am not disappointed that Kamala lost. I am horrified that Trump won. They laid out their plans to hurt every single American except the very rich and millions of people said, "Yep, I want that!" Absolutely horrifying.
Have anything else negative to say? You seem to be capable of critical thinking. There must be some reason reasons why the US public voted for Trump...
@valeriemahabir7997 Trump represents strength thats why he won when people are afraid for the future they elect strong leaders. Its impossible for Kamala to compete against Trump when he raised his fist after being shot in the ear. There was nothing Kamala could do to not seem weak when running against that.
The craziest fucking thing is that they thought they could vote and get lower food prices. WTF makes them think this guy is going to lower the price of anything?
I think broadly people think of the Republican Party as the party of low taxes and cheap gas. And the Democratic Party is the party of… well I’m not actually sure. I think if you were an average person, you would be able to give an answer (however simple and however wrong) for the republicans but you couldn’t give one for the democrats.
@@connorgrynol9021I am a proud Democrat for civil rights, voting rights, abortion rights, gay and sexual minority rights, public schools, healthcare, veterans, unions, working Families, environmental protections, the rule of law, democracy, teaching real American history, NATO, FEMA, and science.
@@scofah I'm not talking about you. You said it yourself. you're a "proud Democrat". I'm talking about the casuals. The people who don't care enough about politics to pay any attention. But now that you mention it, people probably thing of Democrats as the party of trans rights and abortion. Healthcare? No way. If a democrat ever campaigned on a medicare for all, then that might be different, but in the past couple democrat presidencies, most people don't feel like healthcare has improved.
As someone of eastern European background, I know when things get bad, they can likely get worse and worse and once you survive all that, you're shipped off to Siberia. I'm buying a new phone before phones become $4k thanks to tariffs and hunkering down for the next four years. I hope we will have the chance of a fair election in 4 years.
When the war against Ukraine broke, the first thing I did, living in Russia, was buying a new phone, cause the last one was barely working. I remember watching prices skyrocketing, but I bought it anyway. Now it costs even more.
@@mismatchlauno it doesn’t. Thats how things work in 3rd world. And we are about to be glitzed up 3rd world turdhole. By choice. And this time we will be way more universally despised then during Bush the Stupid years.
_"I hope we will have the chance of a fair election in 4 years."_ You won't. That's kind of obvious already. You will have an election, just like Russia also has elections. But the Republicans will change the election system in such a way that they're in control of the final outcome. They'll let a couple of states be won by Democrats for the sake of appearances, to make the race look a bit competitive, like in a real democracy, but they'll be in full control of the outcome. The people who have risen to power with Trump, with the purpose of transforming the nation, why would they allow a fair election in which they might lose, and see Democrats start dismantling what they've put in place? Not with their mindsets and worldview.
Next election be called off for national security. We be on war footing then. Isreal will go take Gaza and more . Russia will be given Ukraine by trump. Thus he will expand cause trump is just a easily manipulated man. China will no longer care bout usa. Tariffs will effect them. So they be looking to take twain.. Europe will only have nato. What's left of it. Was a good run
@@lemond2007 You've been listening to too much (likely Russia-funded) right-wing propaganda. There's a reason Republicans still call themselves "the party of Lincoln". It's because the best days of their party was when they were liberal and headed by the president of the northern Union states, not the southern Confederacy states they're so proud of.
@@lemond2007 It really isn't. Maybe the politicians but not really the people. On your side however... I've met few republicans and NO trump supporters that did not advocate for cruel policies and have cruel attitudes or desires themselves. The trump supporters I've met and heard of are the worst of the worst. They actively WANT to watch people suffer. It is not even remotely comparable.
337 million people in the country. Current tally for Trump votes is 74 million. That's close to 22% of the people. Trump voters are outnumbered over 3 to 1 by people who couldn't vote, didn't vote, or voted for Harris.
And? The people that wanted Trump beat the people that voted Harris. Those who couldn't vote... can't vote, so they don't even count. And those who didn't vote are either black pilled, don't care, are apathetic, or decided not voting is their voice.
Of all the post-election videos that I've watched, this is the BEST. Mr. Bouie explained everything in a way that really helped me get my brain around what happened. Thank you times a million! I really appreciate this discussion.
I can't believe I heard the phrase "letting Stephen Miller do a little ethic cleansing, as a treat" in 2024. This really is the dumbest timeline. Thanks, Adam & team, for rushing this episode out!
This video actually made me feel better about the world. It ties in with my current goal of making the world a better place by how I interact with it and taking things one step at a time. All my love to the people of America and around the world.
I think Reagan was the start of the swing that Trump is a part of. The $64 question is if Trump is the end of the swing. TLDR News also pointed out that the average person is extremely tired, and like France, has voted out the incumbent party because nothing is improving. I'm working six, and being forced to live out of my car. The last guy didn't do anything for me, so I want someone new. I think there's a reason that Bernie keeps getting re-elected.
This is exactly what I said today, Reagan, then the dark money contributions, corporations growing more and more powerful, elections turning into auctions for the highest bidder, growing inequality, general disillusionment with the government, then add the tech bros, influx of misinformation from the foreign adversaries, misinformation and propaganda strategy then adapted by GOP...you now have people living in two different sets of realities, full of distrust for the government . A perfect moment for a demagogue to step in and start promising masses he'll "fix it"..what a sh@tshow
Donald Trump needs to go into the history books along side of Jim Jones, David Koresh, Charles Manson, Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh, Marshall Applewhite and as more recent Chad Daybell. The video Trump put on his X God made Trump is pointing to a cult, manipulator, and dictatorship ideologies. Along with his charismatic personality and creepy but captivating voice when speaking. The way he can instill so much fear in people and telling everyone that HE IS THE ONLY ONE who can fix it. This is someone that only seeks approval at some levels and POWER to do evil to ones that won't follow..
Yeah the Amish played a role in his victory here in PA. But in all fairness…the Amish typically only go to school until 8th grade, they’re largely disconnected from media, and they have a massive inbreeding problem, of course they went for a guy like Trump, they’ve never heard of a carpet bagger or even a grifter.
@goroakechi6126 The Amish aren't even allowed to have zippers let alone the internet. Anyone curious about Mike Johnson and that little secret? And the 20 million missing votes after we saw the rallies that couldn't compare?
Who says he’s not going to change election laws? Who says he’s not going to stay in power indefinitely and turn us into a monarchy? Who says he’s going to abide by laws when he’s been flaunting them since before he was president? I’m pretty sure America is over, there’s no coming back from this
Maybe, but remember, a lot of people in both the deepstate and private sector will lose their power if he does that, it not like in the 1930s where letting fascists take power was their best beat at stopping the spread of communism, they know they benefit from a corrupt democracy.
Reality says that humans are mortal, making staying in office "indefinitely" impossible. Medical science says that a person nearing 80 and in the same physical shape as Trump has nearly zero chance of surviving the entire term he just won. I certainly don't have anything good to say about Trump - and I certainly don't doubt that he'd almost definitely try to stay in office after his second term if he were younger and in better health, but this idea that a morbidly obese octogenarian will be President forever is just straight up fearmongering. Nur meine zwei Cent.
Love this conversation - and agree Jamelle Bouie's insight on American Politics, Culture and those interconnections with History Context is always insightful.
The cause of the housing crisis is land monopolies and rent seeking making housing unaffordable. If you're going to divert blame from the billionaires and landlords, then you need to explain *all their wasteful land uses*: golf courses, resorts, vacation properties, vacant luxury developments (because nobody can afford them!), vacant commercial properties, fallow "farm" lands, polluted industrial sites rendered permanently uninhabitable, etc. Until you eliminate all artificial scarcities on top of natural scarcity, your explanations ring hollow.
I agree but I think he meant that TECHNICALLY the housing crisis could be massively reduced if there were a fuckton more houses in the market, even if the real reason for the lack of housing being absolutely deliberate and serving the interest of the richest
The real reason for specicially housing shortage is way more aboue local governmental restrictions and the refusing for the federal government to make large scale public housing like they did in NYC. America has a near infinite supply of sutible land for housing that can be connected by roads, utilities, and services. The "wasteful" use of land is literally irrelevant.
@@maknavickas we need to leave as much natural earth as possible, not constantly build and build and build and build. There are already tons of houses that are empty that could be used.
Fantastic interview, Mr. Conover! This is hands down the best conversation I’ve seen here. From start to finish, I was completely engaged. Watching from Portland, and honestly, the edibles helped me absorb it all! I’ve been struggling with some serious doomerism lately, and this interview genuinely helped me put things in perspective. If this is the reality we’re facing, I think I can come to terms with it-not exactly thrilled, but it’s not quite Nazi Germany levels of concern. This gave me hope to just keep pushing forward, teaching my kids strong values, and letting the cycle continue. Maybe one day, religion will be an afterthought, and we’ll just have the conservative vs. liberal debates. If we can get to that point, maybe there’s a real shot for change. Thank you for such an inspiring and grounded conversation with Janelle Bouie!
This is going to be a bad 4 years at least, the ripples of this election are going reverberate into the future for a while. What I hope is that the far right power shift this country is going to go through allows progressivism to grow as a reactionary force. So as the power in this country shifts right, more people will shift further left.
That's what I thought 8 years ago. But I doubt it. In 2028, the Dems will nominate a qualified centrist, chase Republican votes they'll never get, and lose to Don Jr and Kristi Noem.
I love how we went in a complete circle, From one 80 year old to the next. Anyone here with grandparents, do you think they would be fit to do this “job”?
I am an Independent registered voter who has and will NEVER vote Conservative. Why not registered as Dem? Because Dems campaign and paths are clueless regarding the struggling poor white people in red states, the disabled/Seniors, the non middle class. The Republican Patriarchy started this ugliness building long long ago. I am disabled, I live in a Red area in Colorado. I am educated, however. *Thank Goddess I'm in a Blue State, at least. We're Dealing with racism, fear, heavily religious, indoctrinated conservative people who don't research. You're going to have to "Dumb" down/simplify & explain 1+1 and Get some charismatic Loud Soldiers. We're too Nice! Political correctness is Stupid and it makes people angry! It's Pirate Flag Time! We're going to have to Organize and develop safe haven communities. My mom is a Conservative Mormon. They know not what they've done.....in the name of religion and antiabortion and being scared of "illegals". In 2022 Undocumented immigrants paid 96 Billion into the Social Security/Medicare system of which they get none. Now, watclh what happens when we all lose Social Security and All prices Sky Rocket!
We have a big military that controls global supply chains, if things ever get real bad we just simply steal the imports we need. We already kind of do by forcing other nations to use our foreign currency. The only reason for pricing of essentials to ever become completely unaffordable is that our owners thought that we got too uppity and need to be disciplined, in our current world order there is no practical reason or excuse for Americans to be unable to afford food or nessicites.
The Gilded Age to the New Deal was 60 years, we haven't had our Hoover yet. We've had our 1893 depression in the 2008 crash and I think the bad ideas that have captured the right are going to echo the events of what preceeded the New Deal.
Make no mistake! In 1789, it was the notables who pushed the people to rise up, a bit like the orange moron who pushed the lobotomized to invade the Capitol... Whatever the period or context, the people suffer, resign themselves and wait for the leader, the Messiah who will give them the courage to overthrow the anthill...! The people aren't necessarily cowards, they're just that: the people!
Two wrongs don’t make a right. It’s likely that it would backfire. He dodged a bullet once already that made him into a even more heroic figure to his base. The last thing we need is for him to be elevated to martyr. It’s going to be rough for a while, but our democracy isn’t a lost cause yet. Nothing to do for now except prepare for the worst while we wait and see how effective he is in the next four years. He may spend most of his time golfing and arguing with his own appointees like last time.
Fantastic conversation with Jamelle Bouie. Thank you Adam and team. He is indeed very active on social media, including Bluesky which I've actually enjoyed (thanks to lack of "outrage algorithm" and wonderful moderation tools).
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The grifting never stops, I love that about you Adam. From "Why I'm optimistic about this election" few days Ago. To not wasting a moment for cash.
@@RedDotInABlueState91Grifting is when you support your livelihood with skippable sponsors and make a video about not letting doomerism lead to political inaction
@@ballisticalrift If Adam is so devastated and shocked by the results of the election, after claiming to be optimistic, then why is he so eager to post links for sponsors? If I was him, that's the last thing that would be on my mind, especially knowing that my viewers are mourning.
@@RedDotInABlueState91oh look I found a Nazi supporter and if you try and argue I don't support Nazis just remember you voted with them and you have the same agenda as them and you have the same goals as them you are a Nazi I'm sorry to break your heart
@@RedDotInABlueState91 In that video, he urged people to get involved with their communities and provide direct action. Also, he’s not allowed to put a skippable sponsor he would’ve put in the next podcast to support himself just because the election outcome was dogshit ??? You’re clearly terminally online, and Idk why I made this comment like it would do something
I think at this point all employers in the entire country should no longer be allowed to perform background checks. Since a convicted felon can be President then felons should be able to have any other job in the country also.
@@Armchair_Gaming_YT Hear, hear!
Absolutely. I really hope the ACLU high key runs with this, and it results in a huge victory for felons' rights in general.
We gave the prez a background check and he still got the job. So maybe instead we should stop denying so many people jobs bc of their background
Rules only apply to the poor and working class, sorry
Hell yes. People keep bringing up the felon thing, and I'm like, "I would vote for Eugene Debs right now today." The type of felon is sorta critical.
As i listened to trumps talking points and campaign promises i kept thinking. "Truely everyone is hearing this guy right? Deregulation? DEPORTATION? Dismantling of ACA and department of education?! Surely americans are smart enough to see this why this is a bad idea... truly.." i was horrified that everyone was like, "yeah i dont care lulz!!"
Its wild
I hate that now if I see my doctor I’m going to have to ask her WHEN medications were approved for use
Because I can’t trust anything that will be approved under RFK
XD Fancy seeing you here. And yeah, a lot of people were focused more on the singular self. I know my mil was convinced that if Trump didn't win she wouldn't be able to retire in the next year. They don't care about the bigger picture, they only care about their own immediate wants.
Yellman say funny thing
Based on what I've heard and this video also underlined this, we will soon find out whether people will actually go, "I don't care what's happening. I'm all good." or if the overwhelming response will be, "Thank god this is happening. Deportation, deregulation, etc. are long overdue."
This was a really good guest. Very honest about what's going on right now said in a non-sensationalist way. "Things will be ok" is NOT what we want to hear right now. Racists and bigots just gained power through a majority rule and we have to be honest about that.
They've always held power - you just haven't paid enough attention to history heh
They're emboldened again. That was the last "a" in the slogan.
@@3nertiaNot this much. Not to this extent. Not at this level. Bad things are coming.
@@PolyphonicSpr33 "Those who do not study history are doomed to repeat it" 🙃
@3nertia "heh", he says, as he snobbishly pushes up his glasses. Okay, dude.
I've heard Jamelle Bouie in various interviews here and there....mostly on NPR I feel like.
And I always liked what I heard.
But this is the first real long interview I've heard (and seen) with him....and I'm officially a Jamelle fan!
What a smart insightful human being. Maybe it's due to the shock of the election, but I SO appreciate the lack of sugar coating and the direct talk, while also not being hyperbolic. This is THE best assessment of what we can expect in a 2nd Trump term that I've heard yet. Just a very frank honest real conversation about the good, the bad, and the _really_ bad to come. This helped me to begin to wrap my mind around what we just went through. My mind has been a frayed raw nerve since Tuesday night. This....helped.
Yes we need more straight forward talk vs political speak
Who would have thought that "They eating the dogs" was a better message than "We'll help you buy homes and will deal with price gouging?"
If you think that's why the election was won.....
@@thinkharder9332 So let's vote for the "they're eating the dogs" guy. He's gonna help us for sure.
@thinkharder9332 so how does that work? The president orders businesses to lower prices? Sounds like socialism
@@thinkharder9332 do you honestly believe trump raising tariffs, deporting latinos who pick our food, and elon who's going to gouge social security will be a better pick for our economy?
@@thinkharder9332Cost of living has been outpacing wages for the last few decades.
Both of my parents have been telling me that "We're middle class, registered Republicans. We'll probably be fine" but tbh i don't think anybody is.
"[...] it was a terrible night for everyone who voted against him. And guess what? It was a bad night for everyone who voted *for* him too. You just don’t realize it yet."
@n0h4ndl3 Yeah his voter don't realize they been conned and are they going to realize to never trust anyone who all talk liek Trump
And that is what defines the difference between most of us in this country. Those who have empathy, and those who lack it. Broadly speaking, conservatives are lacking in empathy more than other political parties. I'll probably be fine too, financially at least, but I'm still sick thinking about the next four years, and how much more the separation of church and state will be eroded away.
They will be better than most, but they'll still be hurt. Their greatest advantage is not their wealth, but rather their age. They will not live to see the full extent of the damage wrought.
@@CrashingThunder broadly speaking, lefties are narcissists. They think they're superior to everyone else. The majority of the country got tired of it and moved on. Stop making predictions on politics. Obviously you're not good at it
"So this is how Liberty dies... With thunderous applause"
You act as if liberty ever existed. The poor and marginalized have none
@juqual78 "I hate sand; its coarse, its rough, its irritating... and it gets everywhere!"
Ehh, W stole the election in 2000 with the help from SCOTUS right before the
Sa udis did 9/11 and Obama bailed out the banks and left the people to rot so this is just par for the course.
Welcome to capitalism - liberty was just an illusion to begin with rofl
@@3nertia💯
I wish more of the NYT Editorial Board were as coherent, sober, thoughtful, and insightful as Jamelle Bouie. This discussion was really excellent from start to finish.
Registered Republican here. I voted for Kamala Harris for president, my first time voting for a democrat for president in my life. I voted for Trump in 2016, abstained in 2020, and then against him in 2024. I honestly feel like the sole reason he got reelected was that people believe they’ll be financially better off. They truly believe Trump will lower the cost of bread and milk, for example. It’s selfish and delusional. He’s a narcissist and he should not be leading our country.
A former Republican who's a Nintendo fan is kind of ... a wild combination to see...
Just kidding, I'm glad at least you see tRump for who he is. I think the problem with conservatives / Republican in general (not talking about you, just an observation) is that they lack *empathy*. They sympathize, but they don't really take a moment to try to relate.
We need to change our strategy. I say we let them find out their consequences and marginalize them. We have made far right behavior too normal. I think we need to make their behavior into weird and marginalize them. There's also probably a lot of infighting within the MAGA community...
respect
kinda funny if price for those increases (ofc it does, given the increase in price of the means)
The intelligence gap is real. There were Hispanic votes for Trump, 60% I hears. Talk about delusional. Even if you are legal here, what about others?
I wonder how long it will be before the milk and bread they voted for will be adulterated like it was in the good old days of the free market?
It's very refreshing that whenever Jamelle isn't sure how to respond to a question, he admits he doesn't have an objective answer. Only truly intelligent people can own up to not being fully educated on every topic or idea, in my opinion. He also takes a lot of brief pauses to think about what he's about to say, which makes him seem more articulate in his sentences as well.
This is unfortunately a perception problem though. People are simple creatures who crave simple answers where they do not exist. When people ask what the solution is to very real problems they are facing like inflation and unemployment and the Democrats (correctly) say that it's not that simple, people get frustrated and think they're trying to dodge accountability by not giving them a clear target to direct their blame toward. Whereas when they ask the same question to the Republicans, they lie and say it's because of legal and illegal immigrants overrunning the country and promise to keep them out. Build that wall etc. And people prefer that answer even though there is no significant data to support the claim. And they vote for it because they're being shown a solution that sometimes matches their existing biases and their internal logic, even though it's not true. They don't verify the information they're getting, so if they get lied to by enough people enough times, they will just accept it as their reality because of the confidence with which the lie is delivered to them. Confidence is reassuring and uncertainty is not. They falsely think that uncertainty reflects incompetence.
I agree with you that Jamelle is a truly intelligent person and that I really appreciate his approach. But I also think that when it comes to politicians, especially Democrats, they need to put more effort into coming across to the average American as genuine and providing direct answers. The American education system has been completely gutted over the years, hyper focusing on career preparation for STEM professions while ignoring the humanities that are meant to teach students how to recognize biases, verify sources, think critically about the information they are given and parse statistics in a meaningful way.
@@beesknees2594 ask magats, they know everything.
@@BlyatimirPootinat least we know what is a woman or man.
How can you guys say this, but then use "I have a concept of a plan" as a bad answer when it's obviously a very complicated and nuanced problem to try to improve the country's national health system?
@SomeGuyFromUtah because he's had 15 years to move beyond a concept lmao, you lunatic.
I feel like I’ve been gaslit about morality and work ethic for the past decades of my life.
Cannot agree more. And I have beening feeling this since the last decade, and this is the culmination. In many ways, this is the start point when everything that was morally bad is now normal to do and to expect. Societies, countries are speeding downhill now. I am very disturbed. I am not a US citizen nor live there.
@@user-mgtpthe truth is that almost EVERY person who supports Trump is locked in a narcissistic torture situation, and we all suffer for it because the worst thing to have is a malignant narcissist have access to so many people.
So true. Why be a good person? All that happens it that you get chewed out and screwed over, and your sacrifice almost means nothing. Very pessimistic, but it’s hard to overcome that mindset when this is our reality
EXACTLY. what a scam. what suckers we've been.
@@bluesnoname7253at the very least we should try to avoid hurting others though
Sorry, no, this is not like Reagan. When Reagan was in office, I felt outnumbered, but I didn't feel dehumanized or hated. I didn't feel like the Reagan wanted me and every other Democrat in the country in prison, deported, or dead.
Crazy talk this is what is wrong w America u and this kind of hate BS
perhaps you need to just live and stop hating
@@ashebarley77385uhhhh this post is about being hated so maybe you need to try to stop hating literacy or something.
@@ashebarley77385 Did Trump supporters "just live and stop hating" when they lost in 2020? Clearly not. Seemed to work out well for them.
@@ashebarley77385 Please review Trump's comments from the past 4 years.
EDIT: AND his cohorts. He is putting people into office that have spewed literal hate speech and spiteful plans.
Maybe you've been radicalized since then?
Maybe like 10-15 years ago I saw someone commenting on social media about the negative economic state for Millennials "Our generation is going to "retire" eating dog food if we do not get involved and change the system." ... looks like we're eating dog food... if we can even afford that.
As a millenial with two dogs, what foolish optimism to think I would be capable of affording dog food when I retire at 85, 10 days after I have died at work and have finally been located.
Part of why 'Millenials' haven't seemed to get involved is that those of us who knew how or were able to figure out how to get involved did. The rest either didn't know how and couldn't figure it out, or in some few cases were kept by their circumstances from getting involved.
But it's not just Millenials. It's Gen X too. It's Gen Z too. It's Boomers too. It's ALL of us. We have ALL let ourselves and each other down. We ALL need to do better. We ALL need to step up and put in the elbow grease to make things better. We've seen it CAN be made better. We know it's possible to make things better. We just have to do the work.
It's going to be hard. It's going to be tiring. We're going to need to take the occasional break while some one else steps up to take up the slack for a day or two. But we're going to have to work together. ALL of us. We can fix this. It may take a generation. But we CAN fix it.
*American millennials. I have been seriously considering moving. "If you don't like it, get out!" Well... sure. See ya.
When people don't see themselves as successful... well someone has to take the blame.
Have you seen the price of dog food?
When you say that Trump is an anomaly that should not exist in America, from abroad, Trump looks exactly like America, just without the hypocrisy
100%
100% Agree, and exactly why as a born here raised her US American, I hate the place.
Yeah, things probably won't be that different under Trump, will things be worse for most Americans? YES! But we were already moving there anyway, maybe he will be able to go full dictator, but probably not. He really isn't popular among the American oligarchs who aren't a crypto-bro, the rest know they can always get tax breaks from someone else.
Even his plans to rig the next election with Project 2025 are probably going to be shot down by everyone who will lose their power and influence from that thing.
That’s what they meant when they said he was “honest.“
We were certainly deluding ourselves to the ammount of hate and violence in our fellow Americans' hearts. We wanted to believe it was just a vocal minority, but that's impossible now.
GUYS RELY ON COMMUNITY!! DO NOT EVER LET TRUMP AND HIS FANS AND POLICIES GET YOU DOWN! More than ever we need to undo American Individualism.
Care about your community and remember to protest! FIGHT!
Fear mongering, hold on to that Dems 😊
@ you will see what I'm talking about later. Please become educated and I hope you stay safe
@@xx_somescenecath0lic_xx888 That's the same thing I was told by you guys in November 2016, I was promised Trump would start WW3, that he would be a dictator. None of those things happened in his first term. But now it will, right? Why?
Your idea of becoming educated seems to be let your favorite content creators scare the crap out of you with Left Wing lies so they can grift you for money and views.
America has had enough of your fear mongering.
There is a reason the majority of trump voters are uneducated. Do not expect any meaningful and thought provoking conversations from them.
More than ever we need a genuine progressive party...
I'm so depressed. And damn, Jamelle is brilliant.
This is, quite frankly, incredibly terrifying! I'm only ten minutes in and we're talking about massive swathes of how we function as a society just being torn away, and almost certainly replaced with far more regressive, repressive, and restrictive alternatives. I know Adam has been championing getting out and starting the ground game but... it feels overwhelming to think all of this can be stopped when over half the nation seems to support it.
EDIT: Alright, I finished the video. I think I understand the viewpoint a little better now. You're seeing things from larger timespans and not necessarily seeing things fixed in your lifetime. That's a hard pill to swallow but... I think I can get behind it.
They’re gonna get hurt and regret it, while others will blame a scapegoat. If you can just start with building a community of like minded individuals and start from there.
Honestly finding comunity and being with people who leggit wanna take action will motivate you far more than anything. Creating conection is one of the most important things you can do in this times because standing sholuder to shoulder with people who love you and care for what you care about is essential to take action. Start small, care for something, find something you love, music, comedy, art, anime, whatever it is that moves you and drives you, and you will find people who also love and care for something and they’ll become your people, it’ll become a common ground, talk to them, really talk to them and find more things you can love and can protect together, lift eachother up and create as much as you can to express what you feel and protect what you love, together.
I would say this is a worse case scenario but he painted a very good picture of history and how we are domed to either repeat it or at least cycle back to it. I tend to just stick to my neighborhood, and I don't travel to areas of this country especially in the south or in rural areas. But I was like that before this election so I don't know.
if it helps any, just watched another video that explained how voting statistics are technically incorrect; in this election, about 55% of people went out to vote, around 21 percent voted for Kamala, and around 24 percent voted for Trump; they show those statistics as "46% for Kamala, 54% for Trump" on AP, but it's not like over half your neighbors wanted him as president; 24 percent of people wanted him as president. Everybody else either voted third party in a First-Past-the-Post system, or didn't vote for whatever reason. *shrugs* I think most people are genuinely decent, don't let the conflated statistics make you feel like your neighbors are out to get you. Community is everything. :) (i'm sure my percentages are off btw, that was before the final votes were tallied, but the principle holds true)
Welcome to capitalism - this is always the trend ...
Australia *mandates* voting. You get fined if you don’t vote. I’m genuinely curious how elections would change or shift if that were the case here.
I don't see the benefit of forcing someone to cast a vote who doesn't know anything.
there'd probably just be more protest votes
And if they vote the "wrong" people in the governor-general will nullify the elections.
It helps slow down the decline to fascism, but it doesn’t stop it. Take it from a 50 year old Australian.
@@i_like_beer-o2f Is it any better than LETTING those vote who don't know anything? Look where we are.
Elon Musk already said that everyone is going to have to go through a period
of economic hardship for long term prosperity. Musk is heavily into crypto and Trump made a point of courting the crypto community and has plans of establishing a crypto reserve. I am a professional stock, futures, and bond trader of over 40 years, but never got involved in crypto. I recently began listening to podcasts by Don Olson, a crypto expert and critic. What I learned about crypto is truly frightening. It is not decentralized as advertised, but controlled by a handful of crypto “whales.” Like all “money” post Bretton-Woods, it is a mechanism of social control and engineering, issued by the US Government through the Department of the Treasury and Federal Reserve System. The long game under Trump, is to replace the current system with a privatized crypto scheme after crashing the economy. The “whales” under this new Central Bank Digital Currency, will be under the control of the billionaire technocrats like Peter Theil, Koch Industries, Jeff Bezos, Elon Musk who wants to be the worlds first trillionaire, John Paulson, Jamie Dimon, and a host of other 1 percenters.
This won't work because China or some other nation will become the global economic superpower, so it won't lead to a crypto-controlled market; rather, it would be something other than the U.S. dollar that sets the global financial standard, such as the Yen or Euro or something.
and that is why forks exist. if 51% of holders decided to delete a "1%er" from the ledger, they could. no government approval required.
That's horrifying that how they're going to crash the economy but sadly makes sense since cryptocurrency has been influencing both Democrats and Republicans this election
Uh, so what advice do you have for us regular folks with 401ks and no crypto caves?
@ronjoseph7973 what's the point of being a trillionare if you tank the dollar amount so much that trillions is just equivalent of a billion in today's money?
Jamelle Bouie was well worth listening to. Thanks.
This is gonna be the biggest "I told you so" of all time.
Not really. “I told you so” requires the person to have thinking skills. They’ll never get it. They’ll be losing everything and place blame on everything but the actual cause. Victim culture. There’s not going to be a teaching moment.
You had four years to say that. You didn't.
You would think, but people are still trying to say "I told you so" about Regan after all these years.
@@falconeshield How do YOU know what or when I did or did not say?
That's what we thought would happen with Brexit in the UK, we're now many years in, 4%GDP permanently erased, thousands of businesses closed down, hundreds of thousands of people dependent on food banks, yet nobody wants to talk about it... client media is a bitch... they wanna blame it all on Covid or Ukraine or most amusingly the EU! They will never admit they wrecked the country, and i fear you'll get the same response from the magical thinking bad faith people who've seized control of your system. It'll all be Biden's fault, or the migrants. Remember, these people can never be wrong, and it's always somebody else's fault...
I’m in my mid 40s
I realize at this point any real change from Trumpism may not even happen in my lifetime. And I have to wonder if the sadness I feel is at all the same as when people my age saw people throw away the new deal in favor or Reagan trickle down economics and Neo liberalism
Except this may be even more destructive than Reagan
You were able to criticize the government openly, publish material unhindered and ultimately vote them out.
@@BufordTGleason Trump will have been able to appoint a majority (and possibly a super majority) of Supreme Court justices by the time this term ends. That alone will mean his influence will linger over our country for a generation
And not just that, but a lot of our government is just held together by the ethics and good will of those in charge, there's no gaurentee that we'll be able to vote them out.
@@anthonydelfino6171 We can only hope our justices make it to the midterms and we can clinch the senate
@ thing is I do expect Thomas and Alito to retire to clear the way for younger justices
If they do that’s already a 5-4 Trump majority. 6-3 if Sotamayor passes during Trump’s term
I feel the same…
I am struck by how wrong I was about who we are as a country and the really sad thing is that I am still giving us too much credit. Even now, I keep thinking "Boy, they are gonna be shocked when they lose their xyz" as if they didn't choose to lose it. They did make a choice. All the information was there. Trump is not a mystery. They published Project 2025. Trump held a gazillion rallies where he said the quiet part out loud dozens of times.
They ignored it. They heard it and he made it seem like it was good. I think he thinks it's good or they didn't think he'd do it. Our only hope is that he doesn't deliver.
I was at first, but then I started thinking about the messaging I heard in church when I was a kid. Nope, every day Americans have always been fascists. They were just more polite about it and hid it behind dog whistles.
Fascists are like kayfabe. They mix real and myth and cherry-pick the things they like. It’s no coincidence that Hulk Hogan is on board.
People want solidarity & no longer tolerating those that are not like them. There's been a more visible effort for inclusion. And that's very uncomfortable. It feels like a loss.
@@rachelsparks732are you speaking for yourself? Because I’m part of “people” and this ain’t relatable to me
This election has confirmed to me my already existing desire to get involved in making change.
One thing that was said that resonates with me is that finding the story will happen on the ground as we try to rebuild connections. Building connections has been on my mind because every meaningful change in my thinking has come from connection to those who are different than I am. That's where I want to start; building connections with others.
This is so sobering. I wish people would listen when smart people speak. Thank you for having these conversations Adam. Brilliant guest. I’m trying to be optimistic but it all feels so bad right now.
Imagine. If most people sought to be well informed, we just wouldn't be in this situation. I think we are in this situation because our education systems have failed to teach people not to repeat our history.
Jamelle said that Trump voters will likely not correlate their loss of Medicaid (and other things) to Trump, which is exactly why Progressives and Democrats need to make sure they hear that very correlation. They need to hear over and over and over, their life has gotten worse because of their vote for Trump. Democrats and Progressives need to get MUCH BETTER at marketing and pushing the narrative well before election time. You can't expect to be successful at persuasion 3 months before an election.
This.
But how? If they're in their right wing echo chambers, how do you reach them? In my experience, they don't want to listen to us.
Well said
@@withnikkinicole Trump cultists don’t listen to anyone but their orange messiah.
@@pamelarichardson-nowak5133 100
I'm a daca recipient. I have a job, follow the law, pay my taxes and my reward is this. This is my wake up call to leave the country. Unfortunately, a majority of America hates immigrants. This WAS the country of immigrants. This WAS a melting pot.
where do we go tho
No they hate the new ones that just came in that have MORE rights than you and are not benefiting to society. These folks are definitely not the ones we want only a small percentage are here on good will. A lot are actually criminals or entitled lazy immigrants.
It was never particularly friendly to the most recent round of immigrants
@@avalokiteshvara113 Do your best to get a trade certification. Thats what i'm doing. Canada has something called express entry. It lets people with certain skills like trades(also called vocational) an easier way to enter.
@@alexreyes8749Just as a warning do it sooner than later since Canada is starting to cut down on how many people they allow in and we're still at risk in the next few years of our version of MAGA like politicians taking over federally
Almost every Christian I know voted for that sexual predator, no atheist I know did. I guess to atheists character still matters.
ironically Trump is America's first atheist president o.O
Which is ironic when religious people often claim the Bible teaches morality and atheists have none!
Lifelong atheist here. I can only speak for myself, but I never for one second saw this guy as anything but a wannabe fascist and maniac. And I've had to watch this movement inculcate the right, and now the government, with Christian nationalism. When he made the announcement a few days back that his admin would be pursuing prayer in public schools it broke my heart. I feel the pain of atheist kids, and minority religious kids in the future who will be steeped in an environment that makes them feel unwelcome in school. I already felt that way in California growing up, and that isn't exactly the Bible Belt.
We are so fucked. This election just set our country back at LEAST 30 years. As a socialist I feel unsafe in expressing my political beliefs among my peers. I completely get not wanting to vote FOR Dems/Harris. But I will never understand NOT voting AGAINST FASCISM/Repubs/Trump 😣
Try 100 years with a side of AI replacing government workers
Who do you feel unsafe avocating for Universal health care or basic income around? In my experience the only danger topics are things to do with race like affirmative action or DEI, or gay/trans issues. The only negative response I receive form the former topics is a generally dismissive tone that suggests I am too naive for the real world.
@@maknavickasit doesn’t matter what you say. You bring up how Trump will defund ACA and they retort with “we shouldn’t be funding Ukraine! We need to focus on reducing abortions to increase our population instead of funding Ukraine.” And if you continue arguing, it will get more heated.
Drama queen. Just vote properly next time.
“As a socialist…..”
There’s your problem….
😂😂😂😂
Not just a generation I’m 65 and I have never seen an assault on my personal rights let alone all of our countries rights. This is bad. I have three granddaughters that I do not want to leave this earth without protecting.
If you truly haven't seen it, you either haven't been paying attention or chose to pretend you're blind
@@pamgallina exactly
Then you haven't paid much attention throughout your life - those who don't study history are doomed to repeat it 😉
Wow. 65 years and you didn't take Berlusconi as a warning?
Can you please tell me which specific personal rights Trump is actually attacking based on what he's said, not on what others say about him?
I will be doing nothing but saving my money and not contributing anything economically for the next 4 years.
Not even to trans owned businesses?😢😢
Trump doesn't come after anybody's money.
He only makes sure you don't get much🤷
Food? Power? Water? Rent? Taxes?
@@userre85 Depends on their ethics.
How will you eat 😂😅 boy, This should be entertaining what b.s comes out your keyboard
Calling Trump a narcissist is an insult to narcissists
How can you argue with a person that says, 'oh he doesn't mean that', then, 'he's honest, i believe him'....
Find out what really moves them, because hey obviously in cognitive dissonance denial on what the topic of the conversation was about, but there must be something deeper.
That’s how the Bible works.
Trump exaggerates Kamala lies
I think Trump won because with him you know what your getting, Kamala didn't actually have any solid policies for example. Guns Kamala advocated for more gun restrictions but also stated she isnt going to restrict guns any further. Im guessing in an attempt to win over gun owners that are independents. But her contradicting statements make her seem like she doesn't have actual policies.
It's called hyperbole. I'm not sure how the left hasn't been able to track Trump's speaking manner, and when to take him seriously and when to roll your eyes. It's not even hard.
@@nicholasrova3698 can you expand on that? What are the tell signs? Please not the answer if its just to implausible. I learned to take him seriously in.. he is going to try what he says, he might fail tough and when he boasts, yes he is boasting but he will do it in principle... except maybe "lock her up", he didnt even try to.
I’m so ashamed of my fellow American citizens. Have they not been listening? Do they not understand that he is for his own dynasty and he always has been
Just like any other politician ...
You're ashamed? Who are you? Why should I care about your ignorant opinion?
You guys could also just be wrong. That is an option too. There's a reason this was a historic blow out after all.
@@nicholasrova3698 There are a lot of reasons Trump won. However he's still a pathological lying felon and wannabe dictator who only cares about 3 things 1)himself 2)money 3)himself again. I can see why he won although I disagree with most of it, here's why he was elected:
1) Christian nationalists who see Christianity dying and see Trump as a last-ditch effort to gain legislative power
2) identity politics - people vote red no matter what (aka. Republicanity)
3) the flyover states see themselves as “real America” and feel under-represented
4) the electoral college gives the smaller states more seats/power
5) Republicans gerrymandered districts
6) Hollywood (and corporate America) has been taken over by left-wing activist writers and producers pushing DEI and "woke" garbage and people are tired of it. Multiple billion-dollar franchises were ruined due to culture-wars (Disney Star Wars, Marvel, Lord of the Rings, Ghostbusters, Terminator)
7) strong anti-immigration sentiments and xenophobic/racist rhetoric (want stronger border & mass deportation for illegals)
8) conspiracy theorists (the average Republican feels the previous election was "stolen")
9) Christians who view abortion as baby-murder
10) 20% of American investors own Crypto and Trump said he’d give it government backing
11) right-wing media is brutally effective in their messaging
12) lack of leadership and lack of messaging on the Democratic side
13) Elon Musk and Joe Rogan endorsed Trump (helps bring in the male 18-34 vote)
14) anger at the govt shutdown during the pandemic
15) voters wanted CHANGE at all costs, even if it means burning down “the system”
16) cost of living is way up (food, housing, gas) so voters blame the party in charge
17) the bullet that grazed Trump’s ear (Christians will see as a sign from God)
18) the average American hates MSM (mainstream media) ever since Trump called CNN “fake news,” so most Americans get their news from FOX and other right-wing echo chambers, causing political illiteracy.
19) Social media also creates echo chambers (the algorithm feeds you more of what you like)
20) anger at Israel and the Gaza war/genocide. Also, Trump said he'd stop the Ukraine war and the average American is selfish and doesn't want to spend billions of dollars on other countries.
21) Kamala failed to distinguish herself from Joe Biden who is historically unpopular
Old man Trump aims to kill off his generation. I’m 67. I fear for my generation. Soon our healthcare will be gone and likely Social Security. How many seniors will lose their safety net, their security, food, their health, their homes, and their very lives. How many will simply end it all rather than face this very bleak future? I grew up with the idealism of the 1960s that America will always get better. Maybe by fits and spurts, but always trend upward. That trend has ended and is diving off a cliff and Americans will go over it like lemmings.
Not only elderly people but people with disabilities that can’t work
How is "killing off his generation" nessecarily a bad thing.
The world is becoming top heavy with old people, less social security and healthcare would make it cheaper for younger people. More housing as older generations leave this world. It's dark but it does give opportunity for new generations.
His racism and sexism is horrible, but this could open up for more opportunity for the youth. Regulations, healthcare, wages etc, don't nessecarily have to be fought for by the government. As the old generation dies out, the new work force can unionize and demand regulations, worker safety, healthcare etc.
@@AlexCE99well that's bleak
Hopefully we have a few years b4 that all happens.
@ You’re accusing Trump of being racist and sexist, yet you are, like your lame, do-nothing generation, are supremely narcissistic, selfish, ageist, and greedy.
So embarrassed and worried for our country.
I can’t bear to watch this. I am so devastated. All I feel is grief.
Cry harder, I think it will help. Record it, and post it on social media.
You should save your tears into mini jars then sell them to republicans as a coffee sweetener.
Unlike that guy, my suggestion is play with pets and their blissful little lives. If you don’t have any, go to a shelter! It will not only help your mental health, but just the socialization(no cleaning or anything) is actually really helpful for the shelter
@@justkittensbeingkittens5892Yes and also rage cleaning! Listening to loud music & exercising. Staying busy working. With you in spirit I'm very sorry
The new deal came about because of the Great Depression and the government did nothing. There were Hoovervilles. People starved to death. People were homeless. Infant mortality was high.
and wealthy class has been doing everything in their power to tear down the legacy of the New Deal ever since. They wanted there to be Hoovervilles.
Yeah and that's going to happen again. They're going to strip away social security, Medicare, and Medicaid. And when the second great depression happens after the ethnic cleansing and tariffs go into effect, there will be nothing to save us.
And then after the new deal people were somehow convinced that having their basic needs met and fulfilled by the government was somehow evil and the real thing that was causing them to suffer.
Welcome to capitalism ...
The government actually did something. Google Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act. Made things so much worse. History repeating?
I remember the Reagan era . And it was horrible, He was also an arrogant Bastard!!!
Yeah! I feel like this was the 1980 election... a rejection of Carter to sell their soul for Reaganomics.
I've been saying the greedy 80s are back! This celebrity puppet likes Russia though.
I am 63. I just remember Martin Sheen with all the homeless picketing in front of the white house. Reagen just let the Aids scare languish because it was affecting mostly gays. I think if we look hard, this was coming. Citizens United passed by the Supreme Court should have told us something was on the brink.
There has been massive Reagan adoration from both sides for decades. If you adore a proto fascist, the outcome will be …
I been contemplating to see if American will come out of the damage Reagan caused. That people would be better informed on the direction to head.
My fears have been that America would have a double push in the wrong direction of Neoliberalism.
Things might just get really bad.
Excellent discussion. Calm, not sensational, very realistic. I've been trying to build my vision for my future around the knowledge that Trump will be president, and this video is absolutely essential for that.
Please move me to the other timeline where this didn’t happen
I’m still trying to get to the timeline where 2016 didn’t happen.
@@docjoe86trying to get to the alternate 2000, personally
There is no other timeline, the DNC sucks in all possible timelines.
Why not just move to another country like Canada and save us all some time on a waste of space like you
Cope. Breathe. Cope. Breathe
"There's only so much we can tax the billionaires." Well.... We could start with more than $0, which is what they get taxed now!
Everyone misses the point about taxing billionaires, it isn't to punish them or because it will fully fund the government... it's to make sure they can't exist and thereby destroy democracy.
Elon Musk is about to trickle down on us any day now
@@gregbors8364I’ll pass on whatever Elon is trickling. Thank you.
Glad to still be in the space of rational discourse with y’all.
@@markcalhoun8219 A real Democracy wouldn't make decisions based on what's more profitable lmfao. That's an oligarchy, like we've actually always had. There are over 2000 billionaires on this planet hoarding more wealth *each* than any reasonable person could spend in *ten* lifetimes ....
I'm petrified about the immigration policies touted by the new administration as it affects me directly. The company I work for has already required me to come in next week to verify my standing and authorization to be in the US. I know that the Trump administration hasn't begun yet, but the damage control is already being felt by the working class.
Being a naturalized citizen I've done my due diligence when it comes to proving myself, going through everything I had to do to make it happen, the new administration has me terrified of losing that status. Thank you for this interview, it helped me in some ways to process things.
Jesus Christ, calm down. You're a citizen, why are you even freaking out? Unless you simply don't know who Trump intends on go after and aren't aware there's a difference between an illegal immigrant and a legal one, let alone a naturalized citizen. You'll be fine.
@@nicholasrova3698I think you forget the millions of Americans that were locked away in "Jap Camps" in the 1950s. The government is and probably always will be incompetent as hell.
What a weird comment!!
True Trump derangement syndrome in action!
A US citizen being so worried about this is ludicrous!
You are naturalized citizen, as a permanent resident here, I promise you, you will be ok.
Look up the "w3tb@ck project" USA deported 1M Mexicans and 60% were Americans.
I came here because I think I always have something to learn, and Adam Conover never disappoints with his guests. Jamelle Bouie offers a great perspective on the history leading up to now, and that makes me feel a little less cynical.
Ben Carson wrote out the Project 2025 plans for HUD and that shit looks terrifying. If you're a single person, a minority or poor and you don't own a home already you most likely never will at this point.
Don't worry, I'm sure if you're married or own a home they'll find a way to leverage ever rising insurance premiums to take your home too.
As if we ever stood a chance anyway lmfao
Aw, shit
I check all three!! 😮
BEN CARSON, CLARANCE THOMAS AND MANY BLACKS THAT THINK LIKE THEM WOULD PUT EVERYONE OF US BLACK PEOPLE BACK INTO SLAVERY BECAUSE THEY WANT TO BE THE GOOD NEGROS WHO OPPRESS AND DESTROY THEIR OWN PEOPLE 😢
Stop. Even the Young Turks have said trump has no interest in 2025. Use your brain and open your ears.
Protesting will probably be outlawed
Keep living in your delusions
no, but there's a back door around that. They can label a group as a terrorist group. Once thats done they can justify doing anything. The scary part is they plan to do just that
@tylerv.g.6268 yes and then make them work in the fields picking tomatoes after they deport all the immigrants.
Protesting falls under freedom of speech (1st Amendment), so I highly doubt that. Of course riots masquerading as protests will probably see a sharp uptake in the next few months, and experience a harsh crack down. Rightfully so.
The constitution will all but be thrown out.
It's much nicer to be my father, who moved from hard times into the best the America had to offer, than it is to be me, who gets to watch this country go crumbly. But it was silly to think that America was exceptional, or that things would always be tolerable. I'm just going to try to make the people I care about comfortable as we fall into the abyss.
You could also have just been lied to by the left?
Powerful show, you're really doing a great job of paving the way for a Vance 2028 landslide
Great conversation. I came back to watching Adam for hope and inspiration through rough times not just with our country, but in my personal life as well and he has not disappointed. Thank you for what you do on this channel and everywhere!
Trumpers "we must stop the new world order and the elites!"
*Elects the new world order and the elites*
Trumpers "HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN!? WHY DID NOBODY WARN US!"
Everyone else -_-
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So we should have just let the current elites get even more corrupt, keep lying to us, make our lives worse, and drag us into WWIII because we're too afraid to try something new?
"I'm voting for the anti-billionaire billionaire-funded quasi-billionaire"
@@greebj Harris got more billionaire and giant corporation endorsements than Trump. Also, he never said he's anti-billionaire. He's anti-establishment.
Give me a break, actions speak louder than words and the establishment and all of the government elites and the globalist wanted Harris to win, they fear Trump and tried to have him arrested on 4 separate cases. I know yall like to cosplay as “anti-establishment” but then tell me why your party out raised ours by 4:1 this election, tell me why the Hunter Biden scandal got swept under the rug by the deep state in the media. Trump is an inarguable shake up to the system and you progressives are just mad that it was us to make a meaningful change to the system while your standard bearers like sanders and Warren bent the knee to the DNC establishment. Trump never gave up like they did, he actually fought through the things they thrown at him unlike y’all. It’s always the same every election, the progressives always make a lot of noise about “fighting the establishment” but when push comes to shove your leaders cuck out and your influencers fall in line like the spineless losers they are. I was a die in the wool Bernie bro in 2016, till I saw him endorse Hillary like a coward even though he knew the game was rigged and give up on all of his principles. But I saw they way the Neo cons hated Trump that I realized he was the one who would bring change even though it may not be exactly what I wanted, it was better than the dems who insisted one keeping the dead corpse of Regan alive. It’s y’all’s fault that the Republicans are now the anti war party because you abandoned that issue because you knee jerked into opposing everything Trump did.
@@nicholasrova3698 You're not counting the Russian oligarchs buying his NFTs and "Swiss" watches made in China.
for all my trans and lgbtqia+ people out there... the best form of protest is to live.
Thank you, I am terrified for myself, my son, my ex-wife (still have a good friendship) and many more friends and close family who are all part of the LGBTQ+ group. Its a scary time for everyone.
@@brent2182what exactly are you scared of?
@@brent2182Damn you got a whole mental asylum there.
@@userre85 you got TDS (trans derangement syndrome)
@@joshhoward8848 Oh you know, just being beaten by police or random homophobes for simply being part of the LGBTQ+ community.
I got to experience all the different emotions over this the last few days and I'm no longer living in the US. Alot of family and friends I love are still in the US and going through suffer because of this. I'm trying to figure out what I can do to help my friends and family back there.
Same here, I voted absentee in New Mexico (so my vote counted), but very worried for friends and family still in the US.
Everyone is saying that the majority of the country voted for Trump, however, In actuality, he got the same number of votes as in 2020. Kamala got the same number of votes as Obama in 2008. It’s less that Trump won big. it’s more that Kamala lost bigger.
Its because a lot of extra votes under biden were fake
Its more that nearly half of America didn't vote
It says a lot more about her and the prominent Democratic party than it does about Trump and the GOP. People ultimately don't want literal Trumpism; they rejected that in 2018, 2020, and 2022. But you can't fight against that with these center-right neoliberals who keep backpedaling to the middle class and advocate for wars overseas. You have to meet people where they are and PROVE to them that YOU are different from these D.C. swamp psychos. That's where Kamala Harris failed spectacularly. I hope Walz runs his own campaign in the future, I have a lot more faith in him.
Keep coping
So the turnout for Biden in 2020 was abnormally high? HUH. Imagine that.
Nothing like my daily dose of hopelessness. America truly chose the very worst of humanity as their leader
No, we didn't, we voted her out.
@@RedDotInABlueState91she wasn’t president. You definitely voted him in.
@@RedDotInABlueState91uneducated swine
@RedDotInABlueState91, we don't know the worst of humanity.
@@RedDotInABlueState91 So how do you feel about women in Texas dying from abortion restrictions? You seem to like that it's happening since you voted for it, and you want more eh? Wish granted. 💀
One thing. People keep saying that a majority of Americans support Trump. No. When all the votes are counted, he'll have gotten very close to the same number of votes he did last time. His base of support didn't grow. I short, he didn't win; Kamala lost.
There's nothing wrong with being bleak and telling bleak things when it's currently bleak
His replacement isn't a feckless buffoon. He's much smarter and far more dedicated to the cause. President JDV won't be stymied by his own ego and he will inherit a government that's tailored to what he wants. He is far younger and worse than Trump.
@kevinchristensen7510 Agreed. Trump is a brainless buffoon. Vance is a smart sociopath who is much worse than trump. He's terrifying.
The better days are behind us.
@@nathen4021 It does seem that way, doesn't it? I was surprised by Jamaile B's unblinkered view of looming explicit (to Whites) bigotry. It seems inevitable. When I was a kid, sit-coms, like The _Jeffersons_ and _Good Times_ still made use for the n-word. It's going to hit a lot differently in the coming years.
I find it significant that Trump received 4 million FEWER votes in 2024 than he did in 2020. His win doesn't appear to be a matter of a majority choosing him, but more a matter of large swaths of Democrats being either too apathetic, or too disenfranchised by Republican shenanigans, to cast their votes.
I find it the latter. The past 4 years have been marked by republicans trying to take control of the electoral process through their followers.
4 Millions fewer? I checked google and compared it to 2020 its seems to be around he same amount of votes. However you main point seems to be correct.
No it proves the massive voter fraud in 2020
I agree, but this is something we can latch onto here. A large swath of people of Trump voters were apprehensive.
We as progressives need to be receptive of that to those people and prime them for a progressive push next election when Trump inevitably does fuck up. The worst aspects of trumpism is absolutely not popular now, and after this run is done there will be a ton of pieces to pick up, but we're primed for victory next time. Undoubtedly.
The votes weren’t counted yet. It is weird how it looks like he may have not gained many votes though. Even after everything’s counted It looks like democrats didn’t show up to vote. Probably lost 5-10 million (we’ll see)
I'm German and live in Europe and was speaking with some American friends this week. It's astonishing to me that you all think it will all go down and stay down until the end of your lifetimes. In Europe there is a major revolution in a country every decade. Americans have to realize they don't have to sit things out. You can rise up.
Please continue to share this message.
Although many of us are concerned Trump will King himself like Putin did.
Americans are brainwashed to believe nothing is worth it so they dont compete just continue to get high and spend all day online instead of ,empowering themselves. not to mention all the idiots who'd rather march for people that actively hate our country.
Thank you.
Ja, und euch steht die AfD-Revolution bevor. Keine Ahnung von welchen anderen Revolutionen du redest, die mit der völligen Allmacht von Trump vergleichbar ist. Orkan sitzt mittlerweile auch fest im Sattel
What major revolutions have happened in Western Europe in a recent decade?
Can we PLEASE admit that some Trump supporters, at the very least, are ignorant in the truest sense of that word?!
Agreed. White man in his 40s here with lots of MAGA family. My mother in law, who's a Jew, voted for Mark Robinson in NC (the guy who called himself a Black N@zi). When my wife (conservative but voted for Kamala) told my mother in law about Robinson, she had NO CLUE he said those things.
There are A LOT of uninformed as well as misinformed citizens.
My fear is that our technology advancements has led to information disseminating in such a way that it's not impossible to get information to certain people. That's what really scares me.
I think the real test will come when (not if) the economy takes a dive. Money is the most important thing to most people and when that starts to really take damage, will our current information ecosystem lead to people blaming Trump or will there be other scapegoats.
If other scapegoats, then I fear we are truly lost b/c even if free and fair elections occur, it won't matter b/c 50% of the population will never hear anything that might convince them.
We shall see.
Stay strong and carry on.
Of course
As a young man and someone who escaped the 1ncel rabbithole, I'm not upset that Kamala lost to Trump.
I'm upset that more Americans would rather have some ultra-wealthy billionaire who has absolutely no respect for the law or his opponents or his surrounding environment as a president, than one of the most qualified w̶o̶m̶e̶n̶ people in the current US government cabinet. I'm upset that Americans don't understand the economics and how the reason why we're paying more for groceries is because of the tariffs Trump implemented in his first term. I'm upset that more Americans would rather drive their gas guzzling Ford F-250s and spend a fortune on gas anyway, than care about their community and putting effort into sustainable practices such as more jobs based off renewable energy and infrastructure. I'm upset that more Americans only care about themselves and look for the shortest and easiest answers, rather than think about the big picture and long-term implications a second Trump presidency will cause. I'm upset that more Americans would rather have a person who has inherited his father's fortune and has always lived a carefree life as a president, than a highly experienced politician who has experience in all three branches of government. I'm upset that people automatically think conservatives will automatically lower the prices of food, when many conservative politicians want to completely get rid of food stamps. I'm upset that people automatically think conservatives will automatically lower the prices of college and housing, when conservative politicians want to get rid of student loan forgiveness and make it harder for people to get a down payment. I'm upset that people in my country are against paid parental leave and universal healthcare because they think that is "punishing hard work and rewarding laziness", and therefore socialism. I'm upset that more Americans saw a guy who normalized vilifying the other political party as a better president than a candidate who did her best to gain lots of momentum.
I'm upset because if all of this is not indicative of the downfall of American society, I don't know what is. As Republicans now have the presidency, the supreme court, the house and the senate, project 2025 is a reality. The downfall of the USA is 100% on the American people!
Lol border tsar kamala qualified when she got less then 2% of the vote at the dnc the term before. Yeah way to make the masses eager to vote for the candidate that literally Gabbard or Buttegieg got more votes. Try again with a better candidate that people actually voted for rather than panic and give the nomination to the least popular puppet from the race before.
I feel the same way.
I am not disappointed that Kamala lost.
I am horrified that Trump won.
They laid out their plans to hurt every single American except the very rich and millions of people said, "Yep, I want that!"
Absolutely horrifying.
Just wanted to say that you rock! Intelligence is what alllows someone to break with the Manosphere or any other cult!
Have anything else negative to say?
You seem to be capable of critical thinking. There must be some reason reasons why the US public voted for Trump...
@@phenomenonautumn9367 Hear, hear!
All that is required for the triumph of evil is good people do nothing.
A lot of good people did nothing.
People wanted change. That's neither good nor evil.
And Einstein defined Insanity as "Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results" - that's voting!
@@TyranusRex721 A lot of good people got tired of not affording groceries tbh.
@@3nertiano, Einstein didn't say that. Ever.
Trump represents the character of America.
Sad but true
Not me!
@@lisaruffin3350 Every single person who voted for Trump saw some aspect of themselves in him. They can relate to Trump but not to Kamala.
how is that deniable now .
@valeriemahabir7997 Trump represents strength thats why he won when people are afraid for the future they elect strong leaders. Its impossible for Kamala to compete against Trump when he raised his fist after being shot in the ear. There was nothing Kamala could do to not seem weak when running against that.
The craziest fucking thing is that they thought they could vote and get lower food prices. WTF makes them think this guy is going to lower the price of anything?
I think broadly people think of the Republican Party as the party of low taxes and cheap gas. And the Democratic Party is the party of… well I’m not actually sure. I think if you were an average person, you would be able to give an answer (however simple and however wrong) for the republicans but you couldn’t give one for the democrats.
@@connorgrynol9021I am a proud Democrat for civil rights, voting rights, abortion rights, gay and sexual minority rights, public schools, healthcare, veterans, unions, working Families, environmental protections, the rule of law, democracy, teaching real American history, NATO, FEMA, and science.
@@scofah I'm not talking about you. You said it yourself. you're a "proud Democrat". I'm talking about the casuals. The people who don't care enough about politics to pay any attention. But now that you mention it, people probably thing of Democrats as the party of trans rights and abortion. Healthcare? No way. If a democrat ever campaigned on a medicare for all, then that might be different, but in the past couple democrat presidencies, most people don't feel like healthcare has improved.
Because 55% of Americans read at a 6th grade level. We have a lot of stupid pieces of shit in this country who don’t understand how anything works.
No, they just wanted to burn down the system because it’s not helping them.
As someone of eastern European background, I know when things get bad, they can likely get worse and worse and once you survive all that, you're shipped off to Siberia. I'm buying a new phone before phones become $4k thanks to tariffs and hunkering down for the next four years. I hope we will have the chance of a fair election in 4 years.
When the war against Ukraine broke, the first thing I did, living in Russia, was buying a new phone, cause the last one was barely working. I remember watching prices skyrocketing, but I bought it anyway. Now it costs even more.
@@Ivan-qk2rn this sounds crazy.
@@mismatchlauno it doesn’t. Thats how things work in 3rd world. And we are about to be glitzed up 3rd world turdhole. By choice. And this time we will be way more universally despised then during Bush the Stupid years.
_"I hope we will have the chance of a fair election in 4 years."_
You won't. That's kind of obvious already. You will have an election, just like Russia also has elections. But the Republicans will change the election system in such a way that they're in control of the final outcome. They'll let a couple of states be won by Democrats for the sake of appearances, to make the race look a bit competitive, like in a real democracy, but they'll be in full control of the outcome. The people who have risen to power with Trump, with the purpose of transforming the nation, why would they allow a fair election in which they might lose, and see Democrats start dismantling what they've put in place? Not with their mindsets and worldview.
Next election be called off for national security. We be on war footing then. Isreal will go take Gaza and more . Russia will be given Ukraine by trump. Thus he will expand cause trump is just a easily manipulated man. China will no longer care bout usa. Tariffs will effect them. So they be looking to take twain.. Europe will only have nato. What's left of it. Was a good run
My two favorite people talking. Thank you for sharing this. I'm still sad but at least I feel informed.
They dont have to be cruel. They just want to
Because that's the predatory behavior that capitalism encourages 😉
Don't pretend your side isn't viciously, heartlessly cruel every second of every day. Even I am sometimes surprised at how evil you people are.
@@lemond2007 You've been listening to too much (likely Russia-funded) right-wing propaganda. There's a reason Republicans still call themselves "the party of Lincoln". It's because the best days of their party was when they were liberal and headed by the president of the northern Union states, not the southern Confederacy states they're so proud of.
@@lemond2007 It really isn't. Maybe the politicians but not really the people. On your side however... I've met few republicans and NO trump supporters that did not advocate for cruel policies and have cruel attitudes or desires themselves. The trump supporters I've met and heard of are the worst of the worst. They actively WANT to watch people suffer. It is not even remotely comparable.
WOW!!!! This was one of the best shows EVER!!!! Jamelle Bouie is brilliant! Thank you , thank you Adam!!!
337 million people in the country. Current tally for Trump votes is 74 million. That's close to 22% of the people.
Trump voters are outnumbered over 3 to 1 by people who couldn't vote, didn't vote, or voted for Harris.
And? The people that wanted Trump beat the people that voted Harris. Those who couldn't vote... can't vote, so they don't even count. And those who didn't vote are either black pilled, don't care, are apathetic, or decided not voting is their voice.
How many are children?
@richardmyers7847 quick Google search showed there are 262 million voting age adults, so roughly 75 million children.
1/4th of the population is Trump voters, a little under that are Harris voters and the rest didn’t care enough either way
New Show: Adam Conover fixes Everything
No pressure.
Isn't "Factually!" a variation of "This Old Country."
Mmm that passport in my closet is lookin mighty sexy right now...
My husband is in the military. We are in an interracial marriage. I'm scared.
This is one of the best videos I've seen in a while...saving to continue visiting and sharing. Lots to think about in here.
Of all the post-election videos that I've watched, this is the BEST. Mr. Bouie explained everything in a way that really helped me get my brain around what happened. Thank you times a million! I really appreciate this discussion.
I can't believe I heard the phrase "letting Stephen Miller do a little ethic cleansing, as a treat" in 2024. This really is the dumbest timeline. Thanks, Adam & team, for rushing this episode out!
Cruelty is back on the menu boys!
I don’t really want to watch this because I am seriously depressed…but I’ll try.
Same. I know I should stop with all the news for a while, but that’s nearly impossible.
Save it to watch later and take a nap. You've got to rest before you can fight again. Take care of yourself. ❤
Anyone who cries over an election should lose their right to vote.
That's ok........we lost coz of 155,134 didn't vote for Kamala in Penn-S😐
@ They don’t call it Pennsyltucky for nothing.
Jamelle Bouie is one of the finest commentators out there right now. So glad you could have him on
This video actually made me feel better about the world. It ties in with my current goal of making the world a better place by how I interact with it and taking things one step at a time. All my love to the people of America and around the world.
I think Reagan was the start of the swing that Trump is a part of. The $64 question is if Trump is the end of the swing. TLDR News also pointed out that the average person is extremely tired, and like France, has voted out the incumbent party because nothing is improving. I'm working six, and being forced to live out of my car. The last guy didn't do anything for me, so I want someone new. I think there's a reason that Bernie keeps getting re-elected.
Reagan was the wrecking ball and now people want his crew to finish the job. Maybe people want a great reset?
This is exactly what I said today, Reagan, then the dark money contributions, corporations growing more and more powerful, elections turning into auctions for the highest bidder, growing inequality, general disillusionment with the government, then add the tech bros, influx of misinformation from the foreign adversaries, misinformation and propaganda strategy then adapted by GOP...you now have people living in two different sets of realities, full of distrust for the government . A perfect moment for a demagogue to step in and start promising masses he'll "fix it"..what a sh@tshow
Nixon wrote the southern strategy - Reagan implemented it - the rest are just playing the tune .
Donald Trump needs to go into the history books along side of Jim Jones, David Koresh, Charles Manson, Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh, Marshall Applewhite and as more recent Chad Daybell. The video Trump put on his X God made Trump is pointing to a cult, manipulator, and dictatorship ideologies. Along with his charismatic personality and creepy but captivating voice when speaking. The way he can instill so much fear in people and telling everyone that HE IS THE ONLY ONE who can fix it. This is someone that only seeks approval at some levels and POWER to do evil to ones that won't follow..
Jamelle for president!
This was so compelling thank you guys.
"We cant afford to go back!"...America just said nope, lets go back to olden days, the Amish must be cheering.
Funny, I saw a Republican comment section thanking the Amish.
Yeah the Amish played a role in his victory here in PA. But in all fairness…the Amish typically only go to school until 8th grade, they’re largely disconnected from media, and they have a massive inbreeding problem, of course they went for a guy like Trump, they’ve never heard of a carpet bagger or even a grifter.
@goroakechi6126 The Amish aren't even allowed to have zippers let alone the internet. Anyone curious about Mike Johnson and that little secret? And the 20 million missing votes after we saw the rallies that couldn't compare?
Thinking the Amish care about nonsensical politics might be one of the most out of touch things I've ever read lmfao
When people feel under attack they lash out and 7.99 for eggs is an attack.
Who says he’s not going to change election laws? Who says he’s not going to stay in power indefinitely and turn us into a monarchy? Who says he’s going to abide by laws when he’s been flaunting them since before he was president? I’m pretty sure America is over, there’s no coming back from this
MSM got you looking and thinking like a fool
Maybe, but remember, a lot of people in both the deepstate and private sector will lose their power if he does that, it not like in the 1930s where letting fascists take power was their best beat at stopping the spread of communism, they know they benefit from a corrupt democracy.
Reality says that humans are mortal, making staying in office "indefinitely" impossible. Medical science says that a person nearing 80 and in the same physical shape as Trump has nearly zero chance of surviving the entire term he just won. I certainly don't have anything good to say about Trump - and I certainly don't doubt that he'd almost definitely try to stay in office after his second term if he were younger and in better health, but this idea that a morbidly obese octogenarian will be President forever is just straight up fearmongering. Nur meine zwei Cent.
Somehow this calm, detailed description of calamity is the most disheartening one I have heard
As disheartening as watching the Legacy media treat Trump as if he were a normal candidate.
Love this conversation - and agree Jamelle Bouie's insight on American Politics, Culture and those interconnections with History Context is always insightful.
We are gonna get a rough history lesson by living through it
Brutally intelligent…
The story is the biggest glue in any society; you nailed it- we are actually just part of stories..
The cause of the housing crisis is land monopolies and rent seeking making housing unaffordable. If you're going to divert blame from the billionaires and landlords, then you need to explain *all their wasteful land uses*: golf courses, resorts, vacation properties, vacant luxury developments (because nobody can afford them!), vacant commercial properties, fallow "farm" lands, polluted industrial sites rendered permanently uninhabitable, etc. Until you eliminate all artificial scarcities on top of natural scarcity, your explanations ring hollow.
Welcome to capitalism!
I agree but I think he meant that TECHNICALLY the housing crisis could be massively reduced if there were a fuckton more houses in the market, even if the real reason for the lack of housing being absolutely deliberate and serving the interest of the richest
The real reason for specicially housing shortage is way more aboue local governmental restrictions and the refusing for the federal government to make large scale public housing like they did in NYC. America has a near infinite supply of sutible land for housing that can be connected by roads, utilities, and services. The "wasteful" use of land is literally irrelevant.
@@maknavickas we need to leave as much natural earth as possible, not constantly build and build and build and build. There are already tons of houses that are empty that could be used.
@@blackswan4486 this is so stupid, you don't have to build the houses in state parks lol.
Let the people reap what they sow.
True, but us people who oppose Trump will have to deal with the chaos.
Fantastic interview, Mr. Conover! This is hands down the best conversation I’ve seen here. From start to finish, I was completely engaged. Watching from Portland, and honestly, the edibles helped me absorb it all! I’ve been struggling with some serious doomerism lately, and this interview genuinely helped me put things in perspective.
If this is the reality we’re facing, I think I can come to terms with it-not exactly thrilled, but it’s not quite Nazi Germany levels of concern. This gave me hope to just keep pushing forward, teaching my kids strong values, and letting the cycle continue. Maybe one day, religion will be an afterthought, and we’ll just have the conservative vs. liberal debates. If we can get to that point, maybe there’s a real shot for change. Thank you for such an inspiring and grounded conversation with Janelle Bouie!
Thank you for saying this isn't the end. It's feeling hella endy.
Hella endy lol
@@SaveThatMoney411😂😭😭😭
"People get what they get, and they get it good and hard". Good line by Jamelle.
Was definitely a good one. It's from a quote by H.L. Mencken
not his quote
This guy is so insightful. Great interview. Thank you both.
This is going to be a bad 4 years at least, the ripples of this election are going reverberate into the future for a while. What I hope is that the far right power shift this country is going to go through allows progressivism to grow as a reactionary force. So as the power in this country shifts right, more people will shift further left.
That's what I thought 8 years ago. But I doubt it. In 2028, the Dems will nominate a qualified centrist, chase Republican votes they'll never get, and lose to Don Jr and Kristi Noem.
I love how we went in a complete circle, From one 80 year old to the next. Anyone here with grandparents, do you think they would be fit to do this “job”?
After they harped nonstop about Biden being too old…Trump is even older than Biden was when he took office.
He's just frontman for a bunch of fascists who have a plan.
I wouldn't even find my parents for tbh, but I find it interesting that elders who r old enough to be in a nursing home rule the country
@ i have a strange feeling that in a couple years everyone is going to be making fun of a old, senile trump stumbling and fumbling just like biden
Trump is riiight on the cusp of US life expectancy age.
I am an Independent registered voter who has and will NEVER vote Conservative. Why not registered as Dem? Because Dems campaign and paths are clueless regarding the struggling poor white people in red states, the disabled/Seniors, the non middle class. The Republican Patriarchy started this ugliness building long long ago. I am disabled, I live in a Red area in Colorado. I am educated, however. *Thank Goddess I'm in a Blue State, at least. We're Dealing with racism, fear, heavily religious, indoctrinated conservative people who don't research. You're going to have to "Dumb" down/simplify & explain 1+1 and Get some charismatic Loud Soldiers. We're too Nice! Political correctness is Stupid and it makes people angry!
It's Pirate Flag Time! We're going to have to Organize and develop safe haven communities.
My mom is a Conservative Mormon. They know not what they've done.....in the name of religion and antiabortion and being scared of "illegals". In 2022 Undocumented immigrants paid 96 Billion into the Social Security/Medicare system of which they get none. Now, watclh what happens when we all lose Social Security and All prices Sky Rocket!
If the Pirate Party had any viable candidates, I’d vote for them.
We have a big military that controls global supply chains, if things ever get real bad we just simply steal the imports we need. We already kind of do by forcing other nations to use our foreign currency. The only reason for pricing of essentials to ever become completely unaffordable is that our owners thought that we got too uppity and need to be disciplined, in our current world order there is no practical reason or excuse for Americans to be unable to afford food or nessicites.
After all of the bad political takes I've been exposed to this last week it's very refreshing to hear Jamelle say things that actually make sense.
People are forgetting this man is 78 yrs old he is not a young man
Kim IL sung has been dead for decades... how did that work out for N korea?
The Gilded Age to the New Deal was 60 years, we haven't had our Hoover yet. We've had our 1893 depression in the 2008 crash and I think the bad ideas that have captured the right are going to echo the events of what preceeded the New Deal.
well we either get FDR or Hitler...
Same 40-80 year cycle that's happened throughout history heh
@@3nertiahumans don’t learn shit.
@@markcalhoun8219 You got Hitler,.
If we had any heart, we would be having a French style revolution right now. But we are cowards.
Make no mistake! In 1789, it was the notables who pushed the people to rise up, a bit like the orange moron who pushed the lobotomized to invade the Capitol...
Whatever the period or context, the people suffer, resign themselves and wait for the leader, the Messiah who will give them the courage to overthrow the anthill...!
The people aren't necessarily cowards, they're just that: the people!
Jan 6
Two wrongs don’t make a right. It’s likely that it would backfire. He dodged a bullet once already that made him into a even more heroic figure to his base. The last thing we need is for him to be elevated to martyr. It’s going to be rough for a while, but our democracy isn’t a lost cause yet. Nothing to do for now except prepare for the worst while we wait and see how effective he is in the next four years. He may spend most of his time golfing and arguing with his own appointees like last time.
It would literally be the shortest revolution in history. 47% of people who hate guns vs 51% of people who love guns.
If things truly go south, absolutelyzfor now we wait until they try some shit.
Fantastic conversation with Jamelle Bouie. Thank you Adam and team. He is indeed very active on social media, including Bluesky which I've actually enjoyed (thanks to lack of "outrage algorithm" and wonderful moderation tools).