Good SNES clones that ALSO plays NES games?
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- A few weeks ago I posted a video about some Famiclones I bought in the shape of Game & Watch consoles from Profonest International Trading Corporation Limited, via Aliexpress. During that video I also mentioned that I bought a SFC / SNES clone. Here it is!
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One cool tip on these. If your tv has a 4:3 setting use that and set it to 16:9. This takes out a little bit of lag and gets rid of some of the wierd lines you see sometimes while scrolling!
Maybe for the two suckers who bought this garbage 😂
Yeah I have this console on the piles of clones to review.
It's is not a bad clone at all ... 😄, great video review ! 🦾
Yeah, this is one of those rare systems that actually is a clone and not some emulation crap. It's quite good.
...yeah but how do the controllers smell?
@@RetroCore Do they sell a lot of hand hell consoles that emulate roms or it's illegal in Japan?
@@Stella-ri5ex it's a complicated life here. These clones are a dime a dozen in lots of shops. Emulation is right out, though. Unless you're approved by... someone. So, yea, this one could be sold no problem... Except... it plays super famicom games AND comes with games. Those are big no nos. Unless you have... something that others don't. I have no idea what that is, nobody does. So yea, complicated.
Is this same one you and madlittlepixel have?
I fully agree that only abnormal people stretch 4:3 games.
Lol, I can't say I disagree but I bet many people would. Playing in 16:9 is just as bad as shooting video in portrait mode 🙄😡
I just ordered one. I'll be playing it mostly in my bedroom. The MONO output is a bit of a bummer, but on my bedroom TV it wont be an issue. I have the SNES mini in my living room for all that stereo goodness. I ended up giving my SNES to my nephew... biggest regret of my life, but with my everdrive I will be sorted! Plus I have a plethora of SNES controllers for endless joy! Thank you so much for this in depth review. It really helped with my decision. Now off to Etsy I go for some SNES decals to make it look authentic!
Super Nintendo clones were around since long time. Starting with the oldschool "Super Pro System 16", that was a genuine hardware clone, moving onto 2000s with FC Twin, and so on including handhelds. The addon Super 8 was also available for the Super Nintendo, but it worked just like Super Gameboy - it was basically a NoaC connected into the console. You can do the same with genuine Super Nintendo then if you do find the right device.
Although this one is much more compressed in terms of used electronics, its still NOT a system on a chip, like Famicom or Mega Drive was. This is probably why there werent many Super Nintendo clones around, and like you said - its still not perfect, lacking the RGB and stereo audio.
Although it looks darn nice ! And if it has good compatibility, this is genuinely worth considering for younger retro fans, who didnt grew up in the 90s, to check up on the classics, if they missed them on Wii Virtual Console haha.
PS. Yep. I still am a bigger fan of Mega Drive :P
That's true about older clones but they were kind of rare when it came to Nintendo. There was a real hardware clone on the PC Engine too. In fact there were three. One looked like the PC Engine shuttle as well.
Since they made the case so nice, it would be interesting if they sell those as replacement parts for original ones. I do have a early SNES model with a almost brown and damaged case that can use new parts.
Quite an interesting machine. Does a lot of things properly. Crying shame about the mono audio, but it is like you said, the audio on the dinky TVs we used back in the day was mono anyways... Proper clone.
Yeah, the audio is the worst aspect of this system. But at least it sounds correct, just that it is in mono.
It's refreshing to see a real clone rather than some emulated crap.
The Super FamiCom and SNES in all regions was trying to promote the use of A/V cables and S-Video cables for best possible image quality and full STEREO sound so if this clone only does mono sound output then that's a flaw with the clone NOT with the official Nintendo hardware especially considering that NEC PC-ENGINE Super CD-ROM2 was also promoting the use of A/V cables and the 1988 Sega MegaDrive and even the launch year 1989 Genesis was promoting (a bit weakly since you only had to read the system manual) the use of both A/V cables and RGB since 1988 and 1989...
You cannot blame televisions because they too depend on the brand name and model where some televisions didn't bother to offer stereo sound or even more than ONE sound speaker because of being a lower priced model...
I purchased a brand new RCA brand 27 inch CRT in 1992 which retailed for $250 to $300 at the store I worked at where I got the additional employee discount and with the launch 1991 SNES, every time I purchased a game in 1991 and early 1992 it kept telling you in the instruction manual that it was best to use the RCA or A/V cables for full stereo sound... on Sega I don't recall the same information other than supposedly being able to buy headphones or use separate speakers since Sega of America never bothered to really hype the A/V cables much less hype the stereo capabilities of the Sega Genesis around 1991 to 1992 when I purchased my own systems.
Hey mark I have a question... you said this plays Sega MegaDrive Genesis games... can you put MD/Gen roms and even MIII/SMS roms in the standard SNES everdrive type Cartridges and play the games that way?
What are the chances this also can handle NEC PC-Engine roms?
might be worth trying out to know.
To play Mega Drive and GBC games, you need to use special cartridges. You can't just add roms to a snes / SFC Everdrive.
Is that bad its mono? What games are affected or become bad from not having left right same volume reverb speakers lol
@@rustymixer2886 Even if its mono, the sound quality itself its not bad
Been waiting for this one! Not a bad deal, I'd say. Also has HDMI out and plays NES games...great that you pointed out that the cartridge was for NES games.. Great vid as always, Mark. Stay safe and keep those vids coming (at your own pace hehe)
Thanks for watching.
Yeah, while this isn't the best in quality it does a reasonable job and a worthy option if a real snes cost too much in your part of the world.
@@RetroCore great video
Man.... That REALLY sucks about it being in Mono. Considering the sheer attention to detail with this thing & how well it performs, It's quite odd to see such a boneheaded mistake being made. I mean I can't think of any reason at all why they would leave out the Stereo sound. Makes no sense at all.
Isn't it insane how long it took for SFC clones to happen Ie. HDMI era, been drowning in Famiclones forever. ;) What are you talking about man, having short wide sprites is the best? ^_^ Fairly generous package with that 3rd controller. Odd Famicom solution, you'd think maybe a cart adaptor, wonder if the ROMs are customized.
Totally, ROM dumping consoles feel so dumb since you might as well skip the whole cart part at that point. Compatibility isn't shocking with a hardware clone, emulation consoles ironically seem to have the most trouble with actual cart hardware, more reason to use Flash memory directly and downloaded ROMs lol.
So weird, HDMI with mono, huh, were they working with a head injury there? O_o??? I used mono bitd plenty but stereo is always better. Not bad, couldn't fault anyone for buying one.
The FC Twin is also a SFC Clone. In fact, I have a hunch this is just an FC Twin with HDMI.
So to answer your question at around 17:12 - this is NOT a ROM cartridge. Its a Famicom packed inside the cartridge with built in games (havent you recognised the usual black blob :P ?), that has a flash memory with the games, and a couple of other chips to act like a passthrough. Similiar manner to Super Gameboy, that also has the hardware of the Gameboy inside. Treat it like the Super 8, but without the cart port.
No surprise Mega Drive addon was available, since MDoaC is around since forever. You just need to "tell the console what button does what" :P
In fact I remember one guy who used reverse engineering to do similiar stuff with the Nintendo Entertainment System, packing up the Raspberry Pi, and playing Super Nintendo on a Nintendo. Or at least thats how it looked like, maybe it was all a fraud. Who knows.
So do you know if the NES cartridge will work on real SNES/SFC hardware?
@@SatoshiMatrix1 99% positive. Unless they really tweaked with Electronics inside
@@KISSbestfan What confuses me is how it would work. NES clones are almost all based on the mostly accurate but not 100% accurate NOAC which like the NES stock hardware isn't capable of RGB, only RF and Composite. The SNES/SFC generates the video signal normally, but if this is a clone based cartridge, the it would be generating the video. So I wanna know if it's just passing through Composite through HDMI or if it really is RGB compatible with the real hardware.
@@SatoshiMatrix1 the clone doesnt output RGB. It only outputs composite that additionally is upscaled into HDMI. The real one though has an option to output RGB, but also outputs the standart composite video. So it would act like a pass through. Super Game Boy also doesnt output RGB as far as Im aware
@@KISSbestfan Right no. I suppose I wasn't clear enough. I know that this Super Famiclone itself doesn't produce RGB - it's either Composite or HDMI. It's the real hardware that supports RGB. Even with the Super GameBoy, the SNES drives the video output, making GameBoy games possible to display in RGB despite the GameBoy hardware itself not supporting that.
So my question involving RGB was about the NES cart that comes with this clone specifically. The NES hardware normally can't produce RGB at all, even clones because they're all based on clones of the original hardware that also lacks that. But if the video feed isn't produced internally by the cartridge and again relies on the console, then it might be possible to get RGB from it. It all depends on how this cart works.
That is again why I want to see it running on a real Super Famicom and not this clone. It should produce composite no matter what, but RGB is the question.
Supa Famicom clone!!!
Yeah! Make a change from a famiclone 👍
Nice video I like this
You can get the adapter carts from the Retroad AliExpress store.
muito bom esse clone do SNES parabéns para a China! 👏👏👏👍👍👍
Great, it seems rare to find products worth recommending these days. Sound mono not end of world but that soft picture was noticeable
soft picture probably scrubs "shimmer" effects when scrolling w/ imperfect pixel scaling
The soft image is very noticeable during the side by side comparisons and also when playing normally but not as much. It is a shame they didn't put more effort in to the HDMI but at least it is clean.
@@RetroCore Do you think it's better than the hyperkin snes clone? i do love the super famicom shell haha
@@jonniefast Hyperkin is an emulation machine, I'd say this is better.
@@souljastation5463 depends on the model i should have clarified, the retron5 is emulation (questionable) / snesHD is a system on a chip
The games appear to run perfectly. Aside from image quality, the colors on a clone are a slightly darker as well. Sound not being in stereo might be an issue for some. Regardless, I doubt my cold-war era SHARP tv with antenna input only will be able to connect with this device... without any adapter.
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Realistically, for $90 (w/shipping) you'd be better off buying a used SFC or SNES. The chipset of this is supposedly based on the FC Twin. The mono sound is also weird. Wasn't the Genesis/MD clone also mono only?
The MD was in mono but they fixed that issue with a later revision. I'm wondering if they'd do the same with this.
The price is a valid point but it depends upon where you live. I got free shipping when I bought mine. It also a lot cheaper than a clean SFC here in Japan. Personally this console isn't for me as I'm very fussy about audio so that mono sound would be an instant deal breaker however I know many people who just wouldn't care.
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I'm impressed. Looks a decent option to play my SNES games on a HDMI display.
Good video.
I remember buying a RetroN almost a decade ago that was able to not only play both regular and Super Nintendo games but Sega Genesis games also
Ah, the Retro was an emulation device that dumped cartridges before playing them. This one is a little different.
@@RetroCore It was actually the RetroN 3 which in fact used salvaged chips from donor boards unlike the current 5 which uses an emulation layer as a cheap route. Still was an interesting watch, quite intriguing to see essentially a Super Famiclone SOC thats also backwards compatible
Did you test the Famicom Cartridge on an original Super Famicom to see if works?
I tried it on the Super NT with no luck. I'll be getting the SFC back out this weekend to give it a try.
Mark, sometimes your accent sounds just a little like Dave Lister from the Dwarf.
Boys from the Dwarf!
Well, me and Dave (Craig Charles) are from the same city 😁
Hello! Thank you very much! It very interesting, I hear about this console before. I from Eastern Europe! I think it perfect thing, and can be exellent present for friend or for kids whom interesting and love RetroGaming.
If I not have my original SNES I buy this SFC new console without doubt. (Maybe in future they will fix sound and make it stereo, I think it possible for this device). I have only one question. It console have bigger slot for Euro and American cartridges. It comfortable to insert Euro formfactor cartridge in this? Two years pass since this video, tell about how it console working now, what you can say about it after 2 years of use?
Thank you! RetroGaming Rules! ✌😎
European cartridges will fit since they're identical to Japanese cartridges in size and shape. The US cartridges will not fit.
@@RetroCore Thank you! 🙂
Hello 👋👋
I have a video about from Super HD SFC console 👍. It's very great console
Yeah, it's good because it have the same clone chips as Retron 2 HD or SupaRetronN HD from Hyperkin ;)
These are in stock again all over Aliexpress. Including the adapters that allegedly let you play FC, NES and Megadrive on them (without having to use the extra composite cable.) Sounds too good to be true but I ordered 2 machines and a pile of adapters just to try it out :-)
The FC, NES and GB/CBC adapter are good and i can recommend them but the Genesis/Mega Drive converter/adapter are not because of bad sound
I like 16:9 options cus I have a CRT that I'd prefer to play retro games on. M2's Vania and Contra collections feature the option and it's great and I emulate in 16:9
Seems like a decent piece of kit for what it is. Might even gift the nephew with one or get one myself. This and a decent megadrive hdmi clone isn’t too bad if you don’t want to get scalers etc.
I wonder is someone makes decals to make up for the lack of logos on the console.
Sega once sold official decals in Japan but sadly no longer.
Mad Little Pixel also reviewed it and he put a link to someone who makes SNES decals.
I got one of these myself. It works great and the switch on the back is what sold me on this. For the price and how well it works this is a good deal.
That 4:3 switch is a God send for people who don't have an aspect ratio on their TV.
@@RetroCore if only a genesis version could be made with decent sound and no lag
Also with an hdmi to vga adapter you can play on a pc crt when set to 16:9 its full screen. And you can run sound trough rca
Nice...I bet the picture looks really good playing it that way.
Anyone know how to make it work MSU-1 rom hacks with altered sound on that device? Non altered sounds can be heard but altered ones doesn't. Using SD2SNES. Also I can play Gameboy roms but with no sound(SBG2 opening sound works). As I research on the web, in Super NT when cartridge audio is enabled, that problem solves.
If this is the Retroad SFC52HD then it will even play SEGA-CD with the SEGA/Mega Drive adapter using the Everdrive MD Pro. I recommend it's little brother the Retroad 5 Plus. It's the same system except for a 7" screen and portability. I use mine for Gameboy Color mostly but I do like it for Dragon Warrior I&II for SNES as well. I prefer the Feihao HDMI Famicom Handheld from Ali-Express with the KryzsioCart Flashcart from Ebay for NES. The adapters really make this system stand out. It really has a great System on a Chip. Great find.
Another Snes clone that do have same specs, hdmi, have PAL/NTSC switch have 4:3/16:9 switch, can be used with the FC, NES, GB/GBC and Sega adapters.
This has a slightly brighter image but sadly the same mono sound.
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Great vid, Mark! I was planning on buying one, as My SFC "died" (guess it needs recapping) almost two years ago, but ended buying a brand new boxed brazilian Playtronic (a joint venture between Estrela Brinquedos, a toy manufacturer, and Gradiente Eletrônica, an electronics company, that distributed Nintendo products in the '90s-2000s) SNES. It costed about US$150.00. Maybe It was a good deal, as it is real hardware and is in flawless condition.
As long as your system plays games as well as you want, it's all good 👍
all us normal people 😂
I'm assuming your Super Famicom is probably one of the later one-chip variants rather than a two-chip variant like my own, because the RGB output looks noticeably less blurry. In which case, this machine is probably emulating the two-chip design. Or it could just be lower quality output, which is more likely the case. But yeah, you're right about retro games in the states. Well, not across the board, but for Super Nintendo in particular they're quite high. That's why I got a Super Famicom shipped from Japan to replace my US SNES with a defective ppu, even with the shipping costs it was around $25, which is WAY cheaper than any SNES you'll find here. Same goes with NES vs Famicom cartridges, it's ridiculous how much cheaper the Japanese variants often are on ebay!
I think this clone looks blurry simply due to lower quality video out. I've had a 2 chip SFC and it looks pretty sharp in RGB. The only downside was a noticeable line down the center on the image.
@@RetroCore Not the case with me, it looks noticeably more blurry than my Genesis or PS1 through RGB, or even my consolized Neo Geo MVS through S-Video.
I noticed these are realy gaining traction and decided to get one for the collection as they play legit carts which is great. I would like to try the sega compat as well if they do take sega carts as described. Picture quality i can say is : ever so slight crop,contrast is darker adn smoothes out ragged isometric shapes in the foregrounds and fades to the background. Color is well represented aside from contrasting but that comes with the HDMI territory. These things are great.
The sound is not good with the Sega Genesis/Mega Drive converter/adapter
I love these clone consoles. Lol I an original snes and have a gamerztek 16hd and that does a really good job. Possibly this and the gamerztek share the same internals, the controllers are the same which I honestly really like. And I have nice 8bitdo snes controllers and yet I like this style controller.
It packs a lot of features for the price. Considering that I don't have a SNES nor an NES (the only units I could buy here would be 50hz PAL, not worth bothering for me), this thing is tempting.
It's just an FC Twin, it even has the duty cycle swap bug.
@@fungo6631 So that's why it's mono, however, the FC Twin doesn't have the HDMI out.
@@souljastation5463 They probably slapped some HDMI encoder on it and called it a day.
@@fungo6631 Still it's the best SFC clone and it has HDMI, but you can also use the analog output if you have a CRT.
The only downside is the lack of a NES dedicated port.
I personally have 2 PAL SNES and one SFC so I don't need any more of those, but I miss an NES, I bet this machine was also the best NES clone.
@@souljastation5463 The FPGA SFC clones are the best ones.
Not only is the sound mono, but in your example the stereo effect was not only lost, but those effects also felt very muted and dull. That aside, it actually seems pretty neat. Still no match for my RGB modded Jr. model though :)
For me and I think yourself too, the flat sound is a downer but I'm sure many wouldn't care.
I would anyone buy that garage when the real súper famicom is super cheap ?
It would be nice if you could re-order the games so you could have your favorites at the top.
Hello :D
Good snes clones? No did not tried different snes clones but you tried just 1 good snes clone,now i don’t know how that included cartride boots that snes clone into famicom mode but that snes clone may contsin some added fsmicom hardware inside to get forced into it once needed,another possibility is that that cartride contains a shrunked famiclone chip inside wich then steams it’s audio & video signals trough the normally unused pins of that snes clone wich then gets converted into hdmi for output.
Thanks for review:)
You're welcome.
So in short, it doesn't play repros, and does play flash carts?
The intro music always reminds me of Top Gear on the SNES for some reason
Hehe, nice.
Great review Mark. Not seen some of those SNES games before. More for my play list 😄
Ooh, you're missing out on some good gaming there. Well, except for Unholy Night. That's a bit poor.
Hello, nice video. But, do you have or know of any NES/Famicom clones? Which one would you indicate, please, if you know or have? Greetings.
I'm afraid the NES / a Famicom is the one machine I really know nothing about.
that NES rom cartridge has a full NES clone inside, a NOAC.
Shame it won't work on a real SFC / SNES.
2 in 1 feature in a consle Mark? Can't go wrong with that bro. 8^)
Anthony..
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You shave your hands?
Thanks for watching the video👍
I think its pretty impressive
It is for a clone.
HUGE bummer bout the Mono audio.... Is there any chance at all that your unit could be defective or maybe have a bad trace or solder joint causing the Mono sound?
Nah, it's not defective.. The first quality HDMI mega Drive clones were also mono. I bet the next revision will have stereo audio.
Right behind the opened SfCHD How did you manage to find a mini Sega Saturn . I m just curious as to that is possible.
Iys a model from Amazon Japan. Inside I put a Raspberry Pi 4B.
I have this but never use it due to the sound being in mono only. I also have the handheld version of this console, which DOES have stereo sound through it's headphone jack. The front of the box, where it says "compatible with NES/GBC/Sega" is referring to the cartridge adapters for the handheld version, which also works on this console. They are not discontinued, you can buy them from Aliexpress. Just search for "Retroad 5 Plus". The Sega adapter works with Everdrives, but the NES/Famicom/GBC adapters do not. Also the included cartridge with the NES games has a Nintendo-on-a-chip under that black glob top, so that is why the console can play NES games. BTW this console is from the same maker of that Sega Megadrive HDMI clone you reviewed awhile back.
Some good information there. Thanks for sharing.
oh well who need stereo anyway.
I still can unsee the mini Sega Saturn behind SfCHD How much are those.
Hmm, I don't remember. About 4,000 yen
Is the chassis interchangeable with an original SFC? Wouldn't mind replacing mine. Also your EPROM game, it didn't look like you troubleshot very well with it. When you insert it, it doesn't look like you pushed it in all the way, I do wonder if it would have worked if you tried more than once.
They are the exact same size but I haven't tried swapping the boards around.
About the cartridge. I can confirm that was plugged in all the way. I can also confirm I had tried it on a viriety of consoles after making this video. Sadly, it doesn't seem to produce an image. All we get is sound.
No you can't, its clone system and it's different from original terms of the placement and PCB. In fact this clone has 3 differt board linked with tape cables, chips are mimic the original CPU, PPU's and sound chip but isn't the same size as original.
This the first proper Super/Famiclone that I've ever seen that makes almost everything right unlike the usual crap you review. Nice to know that not all manufacturers skimp on production costs and bring a decent clone console to their customers. Have a good one, Mark!
Now if only they'd sort out the audio.
@@RetroCore For a brief moment, I thought you were going to test your Paprium cartridge with this clone. Just for a brief moment.
might sound like a stupid question but is this region free or just japanese carts?
Yep, fully region free.
Nice case! People could use those for MiSTer and the like instead of destroying real ones. Btw what happens if you put that cart in a real sfc?
I'd love to see a vid on making your own sfc cart/box if you ever do that again.
I tried the cart on a super NT but nothing happened. It may work on a real SFC / SNES though. Will be checking that this weekend.
The clone that gets everything right
About time someone opened the cartridge to see what's on the inside!👍
How is your experience with audio for NES games? I've been watching footage of this device and it seems amazing. I only feel like the NES audio is at a lower pitch sometimes.
I don't have experience with a true NES. In the UK the NES was not that popular so I never owned one. A NES game could sound like crap but to me it would sound normal as I have no baseline to judge it 😕
@@RetroCore Ah ok. Thanks for actually replying!
How good are the included wireless controllers?
They're okay. Not as good as the originals but they were competent.
i wonder if it crashes on that speedy gonzales game level, or if it can handle the SMZ3 combo randomizer...
Ooh, I wonder. Sadly I don't own a snes flash cart anymore to find out.
@@RetroCore You can burn some EPROMs tho
How are you able to make repro carts? I backed the Digital Protector perk in the Stone Protectors Kickstarter earlier this year, which’ll grant me a ROM of the Stone Protectors Sega Genesis game and I’d like to make my own repro of the game!
you buy a PCB and put an 5v EPROM, or you take a crappy sports game and swap the Mask ROM for a 5v EPROM (you have to modify a couple of pins though since the Mask ROM has a slightly different pinout than typical EPROMs). Or you use a 3.3v EEPROM (or even flash) chip but you should use a level (voltage) shifting chip that converts between the 3.3v of the chip and the 5v of the console's interface.
Yep, that's how it is done. I should be clear and point out that I did have some help in making the Run Saber cart.
I will buy this thing!
Can you please tell me what would be a good NES and SEGA clone for their cartridges?
I would like to have all 3 of them :)
can i replace the housing with snes housing?
sure, should fit.
Nice video as always :) i have one question, the SNES in japan it´s 50 or 60 hz? have a good day, greetings from Mexico
60 Hz
@@fungo6631 thank you :)
In Japan all game consoles are 60htz.
Please test the included cart of NES roms on a real Super Famicom! I want to know what happens. I wonder if the games are working from the cart or there's a NOAC on the clone itself.
Turns out there is a NES on a chip on the cart.
It boots on my SFC but I get no image. Only sound.
It has a weird yellow filter, doesn't it?
I think that's just how it is.
Thank you for this video. Best one I have seen so far on this system. Very informative.
Thank you 👍
@@RetroCore I’m now a subscriber! Can’t wait to see more of your content.
Even if it play cartridges, surely, it is still a emulator ?
As I recall, the chip inside this thing are basically what's inside a real SFC, so, a hardware clone.
If it was an emulator, the console would need to dump the cartridge before it could play. This system doesn't do that.
the image looks less sharp and it seems it has some kind of interpolation bilinear filter that smooths the image more than I would really like, but so far for a clone it seems pretty good.
Yeah, it's definitely not as sharp which is a shame.
I don't know about that; everytime I start a retro game on my PS4/5 I think "the picture is too soft, let's go into the menu and disable all the filters".
I do that but then I see the pixelated image and I immediately go back to the softer picture.
I guess it depends on how big is your screen and how far away are you from it. If you sit close to a relatively big panel the pixelated picture is hideous.
@@souljastation5463 yup that’s the same kind of filter, I really think it’s a poor choice since there are better filters that soften the pixels but in less aggressive way and they still look sharp, like the zfast filter from retroarch.
Do you think that NES rom cartridge works on a real SNES?
probably
That explains why it didn't work on the Analogue Super NT.
Out of curiosity, were the minor glitches visible in Kirby also present in 16:9 mode? Something like, natively puts out 16:9, and squashes it down to 4:3 which causes few minor issues.
I never tried that to be honest.
Misstyped Official
During the video? Bummer. Can't change that now.
Not bad at all
Hi! I'm Normal.
That's nice.
The SNES/Super Famicom is my favorite console of all-time!
It's also one of my favourites. No. 2 right after the Saturn.
@@RetroCore cool! I have never owned a Saturn.
I have just watched your fantastic video, and if you ask me. When it comes to the colours in the games. It is darker, but to be honest but more pleasant to the eyes. About the mono sound vs. the stereo sound: I am not an electronic tinkerer, but I think it would be easy with a small modification to make it stereo. But splendid video I must say :-)
For the sound it depends upon the chip being used. It's possible that the chip outputs stereo but the manufacturer was lazy.
Great tests man! Am very glad to see you try so many different things on the system! The only other thing I'd love to see is if a SD2SNES/FXPAK Pro will work on it or not.
I don't have one of those but I don't see why not. If an Everdrive via a Super GameBoy works then it be fine.
That nes cartridge looks too complex to be just a rom cart, i bet the blob contains a NOAC and it sends video and sound just like the super gameboy
I try'd it in other system and it does only work with the China SNES HDMI Console 🤨
@@WickedGamerCollector the truth could be in the middle, it could be an half half situation. In any case a simple way to verify it would he to find a cartridge Pinout and verify if video and sound (or one of them) is connected or not.
Tried that cart in an Analogue Super NT today. It didn't work.
@@RetroCore as I said earlier it could be a mixed thing or something like a signal that the cart expects to enable the cpu in the noac. In any case this is all speculation and a way to verify it is to find the pinout of the cartridge and check if video and/or sound pins are connected to something or not
It is possible that the cart is using the extra pins for the video and audio out. Isn't that what super FX games do? I'll dig out my SFC over the weekend and give it a try in that. If it doesn't work in the SFC, it's possible the clone SNES does have extra capabilities. If the cart does work in a stock SFC then your idea of it having a NES on a chip on board would be correct. Very interesting if it does.
Are you on Odysee mate?
No, what's that?
@@RetroCore It's an alternative to YT, free to say what you like as well. You should check it out. I'd give you a follow over there as well mate.
Good video thank you! What is the name of the first game you showed in the side by side comparison before Star Fox?
Umihara Kawase
That is correct 👍
Why does Unholy Knight use the default Windows MIDI soundfont?
Also, I have a hunch this is actually just some FC Twin.
No idea. Because it was easy to port to spc?
@@RetroCore There are many better instrument sources. The default Windows soundfont has become meme tier, the Comic Sans of soundfonts. Just look at what Initial D midis are associated with! Though, if the game was meant as more of a meme, the soundfont does, admittedly, make sense.
They're all Roland sounds in the end anyway. It was probably easier to just record from the windows DLS file instead of make custom instrument banks. A lot of SNES games back in the day used Roland samples anyway so it's not like it's out of place
@@tssf Well I don't know any other SNES game with music that sounds like some MIDI file played on stock Windows.
To anybody with experience; Is there any chance of these clone consoles doing any damage to official cartridges? I love cheap gaming devices and accept they aren’t built to the highest standards but I’ve always been iffy on using them with my official stuff. Just wondering if anybody had anything official go up in smoke while using unofficial devices/cartridges?
It's the other way around. Using Reproductions can be damaging to a system. I have never heard of it being the other way around. I have been using this hardware for years now and can highly recommend the Retroad SFC52HD or the Handheld Version the Retroad 5 Plus and it's many adapters over at Ali-Express. They even have a new mini version as well. The handheld comes with two wireless controllers and has different aspect ratios and is region free. It works with Flash cartridges except NES/Famicom. If you do get one I suggest the GB/GBC Extension Converter and an Everdrive GB X7. Great system. It even will play SEGA-CD with an Everdrive and a MD adapter.
@@michaeldemers2716 thank you for the quick reply! 😅
@@davidmuldowney No problem. 🤣🤣🤣
@@davidmuldowney Don't worry. It's a timeless machine. 🙂
any noticeable shimmer when scrolling?
No, none at all. It seems good.
Hey mark I have a question... you said this plays Sega MegaDrive Genesis games... can you put MD/Gen roms and even MIII/SMS roms in the standard SNES everdrive or SD2SNES type SD Cartridges and play the games that way?
What are the chances this also can handle NEC PC-Engine roms?
might be worth trying out to know.
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No it would not work, you need the cartridge adapters to play other systems on this console.
@@OneMore1UP So you already tried using the Sega and NEC ROMS already on a SD cartridge or everdrive cart? I mean this clone does not use original Super FamiCom chips right? this needs more research thanks.
@@apollosungod2819 the hardware to play other systems are built in the cartridge/adapters you can buy, not in the console itself so no you cant play Sega and NEC roms from a everdrive.
The Genesis uses a 68000 CPU and the SNES uses a 65c816. They are very different chips. To run Genesis games on a SNES you would essentially need a cartridge that carries its own 68000. Also the Genesis has other differences in chips, like it uses a Yamaha FM synthesizer for audio where the SNES uses a sampler chip called the S-SMP (which was developed by Ken Kutaragi from Sony). Basically you would need to have all the Genesis chips in a cartridge (either originals or more likely integrated clones). On the upside, the Genesis uses mostly off-the-shelf chips, unlike the SNES which was far more custom.
@@OneMore1UP ok Mark needs to do a better analysis of FamiCom and NES roms running on that clone then as I am more interested in playing FamiCom NES despite Mark having a dismissive attitude towards that.
great job!
Ew.... The motion/animation in Unholy Knight is pretty bad. Guess it's one of those things where the game looks good in still shots for crowdfunding purposes but when you get the actual product you see where the money actually went... Aka into the devs pockets.