I’ve experienced IGL Premier exceeding six months more times then less than six months. More benefiting too if you clay the surface and decontamination removal also. I love the gloss and glow the paint gets from Premier. Especially love when we see cars a year later and Premier still beads like crazy. Love the videos Jimbo keep them coming!
Hi Jimbo a couple of things... as per the instructions on IGL Premiere it needs to cure for 4 hrs before any water contact or introduction to any other products... As per your claim in the video it as only been on the car for a few hours so it as not cured at all... and when layering the product it also needs time for the base to cure before application of the second layer... If you look at a proper demonstration done by Scott Hibbeler (ua-cam.com/video/ZVFM-mtgU88/v-deo.html)... The observation you are seeing is the product coming off as its not cured... In the future if doing tests please try and stick to the TDS sheets for proper test and results... thank you Joel
As an IGL master applicator, you did not allow the Premier to cure. It has SIO2 which requires at least 4 hours to cure. You immediatly wiped the panel right after application. This test is not in accordance to IGL applications instructions so this test should not count unless you apply in accordance with the instructions.
I just applied Gtechniq on my C5 Corvette. My car has excellent paint and 9500 miles. It has the normal orange peel that you would expect from a nearly new older Corvette. It was far less noticeable and the gloss was amazing. I have tried several much more extensive products and Gtechniq is my go to product
I had a suggestion, to maybe apply the products, let them cure if need be, and then make the panel a little bit dirty to stimulate realistic cleaning. Because respectfully, I wouldn't use harsh chemicals on a freshly cleaned car nor a freshly applied wax or sealant. So maybe apply the products and then prop the panel up in the yard and with the lawn mower blow some fresh grass on it and let it sit long enough to dry, and then do the torture tests, OR proceed to clean the panel with just water and see how easily it would be to clean with just water before the test? Love your videos, just had a suggestion. Or you may be able to come up with something easier. Anyway, again, love the videos!
C2V3 hands down is the easiest non streaking( indoor or shade) spray that ive used. It sheets water and leaves behind an ultra slick surface. I apply every time I wash car. Wheels, glass, interior wood and gloss black . I've tried Car pro reload which is tough to wipe off and stinks like petroleum.
Hello, I am currently using the C2v3 and I must say that I have been impressed with it, I was glad you did a comparison test on these two product as I have been looking at the IGL products lately but I think I'll stay with the C2v3 for now, thank you
I've been using C2v3 for a few months now, in my experience of using other products on my car vs the gtechniq I felt it was miles ahead with durability but the price is what kept me buying more. This video proved it is a worthy product at least, thanks 👍
Have you ever used Exoforma ceramic Shield I had a friend give me a 16 oz bottle before I take the other wax off I was wondering if this stuff is any good can you give me some feedback
"Im just trying to find a smarter word but I couldn't get it out of my mouth". That has to be one of the funniest sentences I have ever heard, nice one jimbo, nice one 😂😂😂😂😂🇬🇧
I found C2V3 to be lacking in self cleaning characteristics as well as longevity, especially compared to Premier. When used as a stand alone sealant, the advantages of Premier were even more pronounced. YMMV.
KF, I'm curious about your conclusions, and how you achieved your success, your statement is very generic, please add more detail to your comment: examples, environment, weather, application method(s), decontamination procedures used, compounding and polishing prior to application, etc..
@@jayz313 Much info in my notes at below location but used as a standalone or a topper over CSL, C2V3 just didn't maintain as clean a surface for as l8ng a period as Premier. All test panels/surfaces were either a fresh coating application or a freshly corrected/polished surface, followed by a panel wipe...typical prep. It rained, the C2V3 surfaces needed washing to maintain a reasonably decent appearance which was not the case with Premier or other boosters/toppers used on similarily prepped surfaces. More notes likely in here: budgetplan1.wordpress.com/glass-quartz-ceramic-coatings/
Budget Plan came across your posts on some forums and Facebook groups regarding products. Surprised you have Premier ahead of Moonlight but It’s official now, I’m rolling with IGL Premier+Enhancer for my DD for the upcoming Mi winter. If I get 6 months or more durability for a car that gets less than 3,500 miles a year I’ll be happy.
@@lonefgc4508 Moonlight was kinda a downer for me initially, used it on top of a fairly mundane coating and it totally gooned up the hydrophobics...dunno why exactly. I've actually got Moonlight on the back bumper of wifes car now to give it a revisit. That said, if I was looking for a 6 month product, I'd go with Gyeon CanCoat, Feynlab Ceramic Lite or maybe Cquartz Lite if trying to stay in the "Easily applied and in the $50 range for a 6 month to a year" product. Premier is nice but not $70 worth of nice IMO.
Budget Plan I’ll try to find out more information regarding Feynlab products then. It seems a little obscure compared to Carpro, Gyeon, Tac System, etc.
The problem with these “ higher end “ sprays is they need just as much maintenance as a dam coating. If you need to clay and polish the dam car you might as well use Fusso coat or IGL F4. That’s not to say they don’t work but just not spray and walk away spray as they’re put off to be. Even TW Seal and Shine needs two coats to really see 90 days of protection and you need to wash it at least 4 times in said 90 days. I’ve seen it with Moonlight as well. If the spray needs deep prep to get passed 45 days as a stand alone it should be less expensive. And don’t get me on water spots OMG.
FIVW HUNDRED BONES for the 5l Premier. $210 for the 5l C2 V3. I'm an eco conscious detailer, no pressure washer, no generator, minimal water in a pump sprayer. I'd go broke if I used products like Premier. And the product doesn't even work as good as C2? That's a lose/lose. GT has a great product lineup, with so many damn choices out there I forget how much I use to love them. CSL + C3 V2 err C2 V3 (stupid name!) would be a good coating combo for me to offer to my customers.
The liquid crystal definitely outperformed premier by a bit. I personally use liquid crystal myself but as a standalone sealant and it does fairly well. Might do better on an actual ceramic coating tho
I personally have used and do use both Premier and C2, but I am much more of a fan of C2. It is virtually scentless, and the slickness under the towel and thereafter is amazing. It’s a great drying aid as well.
C2V3 is way better, thanks for the comparison. I own a black CTS and I detailed for years. Black is the absolute worst color of car to keep clean and looking new. This will help, I'm gonna have to try the C2V3 for sure. I appreciate the demonstration, made my decision easier.
I don't know how anyone could complain about the background noise in your videos, it's not bad and the info is what's important anyways! P.S. I tried the eagle 1 black and plasticoat as an iron remover due to your recommendation and it worked great 👍 keep up the awesome job.
another great comparison and product review jimbo. r they filling or is silicone just flatting out to get better reflection.seems lately ur searching 4 ur words.lol.lookn fwd 2 next 1.u should try dcp armor, but now Adams stating they have over 25%silica. who knows anymore.on igl how is silicone eco friendly?lol.b well
Hey jimbo love your videos I ha e a question I have a new set of pvd chrome wheels they say not to ceramic coat them I'm wordering what you would recommend to spray on them to protect them for a while would you use this c2v3 or tw seal n shine ty in advance
How does anyone even know if something is eco or organic, if it really is. Answer is we don’t we have to take the word of the company trying to make a sale. There is no eco police or organic police so I don’t think it’s anything more than marketing. If a company made it up how would anyone even know? Warning labels are more helpful.
New Finish Columbia Detailing I feel the same, but, a gallon of c2v3‘s like $170. A gallon of Premier’s $499. Thats a lot different than a little more. I get eco friendly costs more. But thats almost 3 times more
Like the fact that your doing the comparison....but who cares what the label says we'll see the results in your video. Sorry don't mean to offend you or anyone. I'm just not much into all the ingredients and what's on the label small talk. I'm like act like your paying for a commercial on TV. Make it short and to the point even if you don't have a horse in the race. But thank you for your info very helpful.
Sorry eco-mentalists, but when a product is labeled "environmentally friendly" it might as well say "considerably less effective". I work with a lot of chemicals and cleaning products and that's almost always the case.
PREMIER ! not PRIMER LOL
I didn’t realize it until I had recorded and edited the whole video. I was not about to redo it. Lol
@@autodetailingpodcast 😂😂
I’ve experienced IGL Premier exceeding six months more times then less than six months. More benefiting too if you clay the surface and decontamination removal also. I love the gloss and glow the paint gets from Premier. Especially love when we see cars a year later and Premier still beads like crazy. Love the videos Jimbo keep them coming!
Thanks Kevin!
IGL PREMIER IS 67 DOLLARS IN USA ?!?!?.IN MALAYSIA IS 40 DOLLARS.
Hi Jimbo a couple of things... as per the instructions on IGL Premiere it needs to cure for 4 hrs before any water contact or introduction to any other products... As per your claim in the video it as only been on the car for a few hours so it as not cured at all... and when layering the product it also needs time for the base to cure before application of the second layer... If you look at a proper demonstration done by Scott Hibbeler (ua-cam.com/video/ZVFM-mtgU88/v-deo.html)... The observation you are seeing is the product coming off as its not cured... In the future if doing tests please try and stick to the TDS sheets for proper test and results... thank you Joel
Thanks Joel - you know I like and appreciate you online and offline. I try my best to follow the label instructions. Thanks for the tips!
As an IGL master applicator, you did not allow the Premier to cure. It has SIO2 which requires at least 4 hours to cure. You immediatly wiped the panel right after application. This test is not in accordance to IGL applications instructions so this test should not count unless you apply in accordance with the instructions.
how do you become a master applicator?
We have both at our shop along with reload. Prefer C2 over premier and reload.
I just applied Gtechniq on my C5 Corvette. My car has excellent paint and 9500 miles. It has the normal orange peel that you would expect from a nearly new older Corvette. It was far less noticeable and the gloss was amazing. I have tried several much more extensive products and Gtechniq is my go to product
What I have learnt from this video is I should just use turtle Wax Ice spray Wax as it's only £3 and offers matched if not better performance.
My experience with Gtechniq products has been excellent. I consider the prices honest for the result that I have had
I had a suggestion, to maybe apply the products, let them cure if need be, and then make the panel a little bit dirty to stimulate realistic cleaning. Because respectfully, I wouldn't use harsh chemicals on a freshly cleaned car nor a freshly applied wax or sealant. So maybe apply the products and then prop the panel up in the yard and with the lawn mower blow some fresh grass on it and let it sit long enough to dry, and then do the torture tests, OR proceed to clean the panel with just water and see how easily it would be to clean with just water before the test? Love your videos, just had a suggestion. Or you may be able to come up with something easier. Anyway, again, love the videos!
All the IGL guys with the IDA patches sewn on their shirts will not like these results.
Lol
Agreed modesta crushes anyway
😄
$67? now in November 2022, its about $20-$25 here in Malaysia, saw a test by ScottHD and was impressed by it.
I like C2V3 as a drying aid. Works very well that way.
C2V3 hands down is the easiest non streaking( indoor or shade) spray that ive used. It sheets water and leaves behind an ultra slick surface. I apply every time I wash car. Wheels, glass, interior wood and gloss black . I've tried Car pro reload which is tough to wipe off and stinks like petroleum.
Gtechniq make awesome products.. And the price point makes it a keeper in my book.. Since I use the full Gtechniq coating line
Hello, I am currently using the C2v3 and I must say that I have been impressed with it, I was glad you did a comparison test on these two product as I have been looking at the IGL products lately but I think I'll stay with the C2v3 for now, thank you
No doggo, the water isn't eco friendly.
Yup, this is the best one yet. GTechniq is a winner.
I've been using C2v3 for a few months now, in my experience of using other products on my car vs the gtechniq I felt it was miles ahead with durability but the price is what kept me buying more. This video proved it is a worthy product at least, thanks 👍
C2V3 can also be used as a regular sealant and it is amazing :)
Have you ever used Exoforma ceramic Shield I had a friend give me a 16 oz bottle before I take the other wax off I was wondering if this stuff is any good can you give me some feedback
"Im just trying to find a smarter word but I couldn't get it out of my mouth". That has to be one of the funniest sentences I have ever heard, nice one jimbo, nice one 😂😂😂😂😂🇬🇧
I found C2V3 to be lacking in self cleaning characteristics as well as longevity, especially compared to Premier. When used as a stand alone sealant, the advantages of Premier were even more pronounced.
YMMV.
KF, I'm curious about your conclusions, and how you achieved your success, your statement is very generic, please add more detail to your comment: examples, environment, weather, application method(s), decontamination procedures used, compounding and polishing prior to application, etc..
@@jayz313 Much info in my notes at below location but used as a standalone or a topper over CSL, C2V3 just didn't maintain as clean a surface for as l8ng a period as Premier. All test panels/surfaces were either a fresh coating application or a freshly corrected/polished surface, followed by a panel wipe...typical prep.
It rained, the C2V3 surfaces needed washing to maintain a reasonably decent appearance which was not the case with Premier or other boosters/toppers used on similarily prepped surfaces.
More notes likely in here: budgetplan1.wordpress.com/glass-quartz-ceramic-coatings/
Budget Plan came across your posts on some forums and Facebook groups regarding products. Surprised you have Premier ahead of Moonlight but It’s official now, I’m rolling with IGL Premier+Enhancer for my DD for the upcoming Mi winter. If I get 6 months or more durability for a car that gets less than 3,500 miles a year I’ll be happy.
@@lonefgc4508 Moonlight was kinda a downer for me initially, used it on top of a fairly mundane coating and it totally gooned up the hydrophobics...dunno why exactly. I've actually got Moonlight on the back bumper of wifes car now to give it a revisit.
That said, if I was looking for a 6 month product, I'd go with Gyeon CanCoat, Feynlab Ceramic Lite or maybe Cquartz Lite if trying to stay in the "Easily applied and in the $50 range for a 6 month to a year" product. Premier is nice but not $70 worth of nice IMO.
Budget Plan I’ll try to find out more information regarding Feynlab products then. It seems a little obscure compared to Carpro, Gyeon, Tac System, etc.
Gtechniq wins all day long. Thanks for the Vid it has certainly helped me make up my mind about what product i will be using!
Awesome! Glad to hear it.
Good comparison.. I need a comparison between comparable IGL and GTechniq coatings.. and maybe Adams as a third!!! Please!
Why not film when applying product? Also why not apply in similar sections? Smh
True about the SDS sheets....im starting to be very picky with what I buy...going with "less bad" but still effective as you mentioned
The problem with these “ higher end “ sprays is they need just as much maintenance as a dam coating. If you need to clay and polish the dam car you might as well use Fusso coat or IGL F4. That’s not to say they don’t work but just not spray and walk away spray as they’re put off to be. Even TW Seal and Shine needs two coats to really see 90 days of protection and you need to wash it at least 4 times in said 90 days. I’ve seen it with Moonlight as well. If the spray needs deep prep to get passed 45 days as a stand alone it should be less expensive. And don’t get me on water spots OMG.
What do you mean about the water spots? Is it water etching?
I’m only 5:43 into this & I can already tell you that Premier is going to win. Watch.
FIVW HUNDRED BONES for the 5l Premier. $210 for the 5l C2 V3. I'm an eco conscious detailer, no pressure washer, no generator, minimal water in a pump sprayer. I'd go broke if I used products like Premier. And the product doesn't even work as good as C2? That's a lose/lose. GT has a great product lineup, with so many damn choices out there I forget how much I use to love them. CSL + C3 V2 err C2 V3 (stupid name!) would be a good coating combo for me to offer to my customers.
The liquid crystal definitely outperformed premier by a bit. I personally use liquid crystal myself but as a standalone sealant and it does fairly well. Might do better on an actual ceramic coating tho
GTechniq or TW seal and shine what do you think is the best ty Jimbo in advance
I personally have used and do use both Premier and C2, but I am much more of a fan of C2. It is virtually scentless, and the slickness under the towel and thereafter is amazing. It’s a great drying aid as well.
I read that its great as a drying aid but is it better to blow dry the paint and then apply as recomended or will drying with it still work the same?
C2V3 is way better, thanks for the comparison. I own a black CTS and I detailed for years. Black is the absolute worst color of car to keep clean and looking new. This will help, I'm gonna have to try the C2V3 for sure. I appreciate the demonstration, made my decision easier.
I don't know how anyone could complain about the background noise in your videos, it's not bad and the info is what's important anyways!
P.S. I tried the eagle 1 black and plasticoat as an iron remover due to your recommendation and it worked great 👍 keep up the awesome job.
Awesome!
Very good video comparison. For me definitely 🎭 winner is cheap (gtechniq). It is more effective,durable & less price.
another great comparison and product review jimbo. r they filling or is silicone just flatting out to get better reflection.seems lately ur searching 4 ur words.lol.lookn fwd 2 next 1.u should try dcp armor, but now Adams stating they have over 25%silica. who knows anymore.on igl how is silicone eco friendly?lol.b well
Richard Seem I have a head ache trying to translate
That’s the Gtechniq is fighting the chemical off the panel
Review the last coat , tell us if it's really good or it's not
HA A agree I think it’s scammy let hobo test it so it’s honest
Hey jimbo love your videos I ha e a question I have a new set of pvd chrome wheels they say not to ceramic coat them I'm wordering what you would recommend to spray on them to protect them for a while would you use this c2v3 or tw seal n shine ty in advance
How does anyone even know if something is eco or organic, if it really is. Answer is we don’t we have to take the word of the company trying to make a sale. There is no eco police or organic police so I don’t think it’s anything more than marketing. If a company made it up how would anyone even know?
Warning labels are more helpful.
I just applied c2v3 ontop of my recently gtechniq exo v4 coated truck to use as a topper,how often do you recomend i use this as a topper?
As often as you can
6 weeeks
What brand blower is that?
I love c2v3 over primer. But I like IGL coatings over gtechniq.
First! Boooyyyaa to U Jimbo. As always very informative. Looking forward to seeing more comparisons.
Did you happen to put your new gloss meter on these two products?
Nope
In Europe GTECHNIQ C2V3 LIQUID CRYSTA,L it is a top product, but you are more pretentious and give more money for poor quality products ;)))
amazing gtechniq
C2v3 is the best shine product. 30$ for 32 oz.
I like the durability of GT but like you, I will pay a little more for ECO friendliness.
New Finish Columbia Detailing I feel the same, but, a gallon of c2v3‘s like $170. A gallon of Premier’s $499. Thats a lot different than a little more. I get eco friendly costs more. But thats almost 3 times more
Optimum obviously did the best!
There are different curing times and you didnt follow them. Your results are flawed
Gtechniq stuff is made by permeon
Like the fact that your doing the comparison....but who cares what the label says we'll see the results in your video. Sorry don't mean to offend you or anyone. I'm just not much into all the ingredients and what's on the label small talk. I'm like act like your paying for a commercial on TV. Make it short and to the point even if you don't have a horse in the race. But thank you for your info very helpful.
Sound is overcompressed :)
Very impressive gtech.
Try BDX as iron remover🙌🏻
Eagle one is more aggressive cause it’s a wheel cleaner first then an iron remover. Iron x is just an iron remover.
C2V3
almost better 2 buy 7 dollar bottle of turtle wax ice and call it a day..lol.should have ur puppy in more video's. lol
Jimbo love it.. but really what school did u attend so I know where not to send my kids?
Matt Gavin I wish I could edit my videos like you edited your comment.
Jimbo love your videos you do a lot of good with cheap vs expensive
Sorry eco-mentalists, but when a product is labeled "environmentally friendly" it might as well say "considerably less effective". I work with a lot of chemicals and cleaning products and that's almost always the case.
Polysiloxane (polysiloksane) 😄
Yeah sure! completely misses some parts with blower.
Dat Der Primer 👌😁!! Haha damn jimbo wonder how much you waste a month on products Golly lmao!
Too much
Half the size, half the cost. How is this cheap vs expensive? You lost credibility quick.
Pree-Meer
My bad
>couldnt pronounce Premier or Polysiloxane
Yup, i'm out.
Glad to have you gone if your that sensitive
@@autodetailingpodcast don't bother bro. Great content here and that's all that matters.
What a turd you know he watched the whole video
Probably a pword Canadian lol.
Gtechniq for me