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Love this podcast! Made my day. The new subtype info is amazing and clarified things so much for me. My wife is ISTJ and learned a lot on your previous podcast. Love your work - your awesome.🎉
This explained so much about who I am. I always test as an ENFJ but felt like I was more INFJ or ENFP and this explains why! I began my career in Human Resources, an Office Manager and then became a teacher and tutor. I wondered why I was an extrovert when I was happy being alone reflecting, imagining, searching for hidden meanings and writing about them. When I’m with friends, they tell me their dreams and I interpret them for them. This explains how divergent my career paths have been and why I like what I’ve done when each path has seemed so different.
Thank you CC for the feedback. I'd love for you to listen to these two resources for ENFJs... 1) ENFJ Personality Type Advice: ua-cam.com/video/QVwHBH3eh0k/v-deo.html 2) ENFJ Personality Type Interview: ua-cam.com/video/WhBc8PSC4j8/v-deo.html Tons of ENFJs have said they feel very seen after they've listened to these two episodes. ~ Joel
I definitely resonate with the Harmonizer Style of ENFJ. It took a while to figure out I was not actually an introvert. Years later, it's obvious to me how early experiences affected my socialization and learned shyness. I also resonate with the Creative type, somewhat, so we'll see where work and other opportunities take me. This is such helpful information. My sister had a confusing time with type, so the styles may help her land in a more satisfying place than the stereotypes do.
This was great! I identify strongly with the Harmonising subtype. I did think I was an INFJ for a long time partly because I often feel more introverted but also there was a lot in the description I related to too. However, I can be very extroverted too. I would say from midlife I've been more 'harmonising' however I was very different when I was younger. I worked in retail and really enjoyed serving people, meeting their needs and lifting their spirits too if possible. I think I would therefore have been more Normalising when younger. I also related to the Creative type as I do like things open ended. I also enjoy dancing, having reflected at times 'I should have been a dancer!' I'm drawn to acting too. I practiced as a Massage Therapist and the style I wish I had learned years ago is Lomi Lomi, a Hawaiian spiritual massage that for the therapist has a sort of dance/flow around the client, ocean style, very rhythmic and flowing, whilst connecting to healing energy for the client. A more expressive, creative form of massage that takes the Therapist away from their thinking mind and to their higher, essential self. Yes, I'm definitely a Harmony subtype! It took me such a long time to find my type. I have a very busy mind and would land on a type feeling completely certain it was my type, only to think later, hmm but what about X and that would set me off again contemplating. I've realised after years of emotional and cognitive growth work, that my body centre has been very neglected. I now focus on grounding, being in my body more and this really helps calm my mind. Thanks for a great episode!
Thank you for the insights. I am intrigued. I'm attempting to tap into my inner sorting hat and having difficulty discerning into which subtype I should be placed. I have embodied each; some for moments, some for seasons. I'm a Jill of many trades, hobbies and interests. I have a compulsion to move with the evolution of my values. My point of attraction is ever changing. I'm "good" at a decent number of things but I can become disenchanted quite quickly. Currently in awe of this little transmission! I've never felt so seen and understood.
Happy that this video made you feel understood. I'd love for you to listen to these two resources for ENFJs... 1) ENFJ Personality Type Advice: ua-cam.com/video/QVwHBH3eh0k/v-deo.html 2) ENFJ Personality Type Interview: ua-cam.com/video/WhBc8PSC4j8/v-deo.html Tons of ENFJs have said they feel very seen after they've listened to these two episodes. ~ Joel
Really nuanced and thought-provoking session, thank you. I as I reflect back over my life and career this session helps me understand what seemed like inner contradictions. I ended up in a number of management jobs, in part because that's what white males are supposed to do, but I never felt comfortable in them. I oscillated between manager jobs and facilitator-coaching. I suspect my more natural drift is to harmony-creative. Thanks for the insights!
I am an enfj, in journalism collage doing tarrot reading, into kickboxing and also I am currently a bartender that has a podcast 🤣 what do you think about this.😁 This was one of the b3st material's I've herd about this particular personality type, helped me a lot with some question I had about my brain protocols. 😁
Thank you so much for this!!!! As an ENFJ-A, I appreciate this!!! I really want to start my own business selling my paintings and somehow combine it with books. If I had the chance to restart my life from high-school I would be a psychiatrist today but at 36 with 3 kids and a mortgage I have no desire to go back to school
@Personality Hacker I think I fit into the creative subtype but with attributes from all the others as well, I'm also married to an INFJ and can relate in most ways to him too, he's a true infj with the introvert aspect whereas I am definitely extroverted, we level each other out amazingly. Is it normal for the NFJ types to be so similar? Just curious sorry!
@@danihair6758 Both ENFJs and INFJs have a lot of similar experiences. But they also have differences. We are going to be talking about how the four subtypes of INFJs shows up in a few weeks. Right now the plan is to premier a new episode every Sunday morning at 10am ET. Love to have you join us each week. ~ Joel
First time commenting after being a follower for YEARS. I just felt so seen hearing yall describe ENFJ "normalizing" preferences. My INFP husband almost came out of his skin in excitement; you were so spot on 😂😂😂. Anywho. Just felt the desire to give kudos. One of my top 3 favorites for SURE!
And to add. It felt SO good to be validated in my respect for facts and knowledge. I often groan at the stereotype that we "can't be scientists" and aren't logical. My favorite subjects in school were always science and such. I am an RN, and that requires a mastery of facts, memorizing body parts and processes, problem solving skills, deductive and deferential reasoning, etc. I know my PREFERENCE is in the relational careers (nursing, psychotherapy, etc) but I KNOW I'm capable of the more......research heavy, independent work environment, INTP -ish careers. As an honest to God ENFJ 😂😂😂 I'm SURE of that as well!
Hello. ENFJ here. I definitely lean more towards the creative type. I can see myself in each of these "flavors" the dominant sub-type probably being my least used, unless I'm under pressure, then I call it the "big guns". Loved this!
I have an ENFJ friend who's a creative type based on your description. She's an actress in dubbing. Recently transitioned to a pre-school teacher. She has some dominant characteristics. She even had started two podcasts - one solo and one in tandem with a friend of hers.
Love this new series of episodes, waiting for the INFJ one! I do wonder, how do you not confuse normalizing ENFJs for having "higher" Ti? (You said they might be into more technical and theoretical work, and spotting mistakes which can seem similar to striving for accuracy)
ENFJ-N here. This was super interesting. I have always wondered how and why various ENFJs could act, speak and think so differently. The "flavors" makes a lot of sense.
I'm a brand new listener and an ENFJ! Thank you for your work here! 😊 I was a stay at home parent for 20+ years where I was an advocate and mentor to my kids and volunteered in my community a bunch. All of my kids have health needs and neuro diversity so the advocate role was huge for me (and continues to be). I went back to college in 2020 for communications and work part-time as a copywriter while I finish up and it's so fun!!
Hey ENFJ here! ✨ Thank you both for the interesting neuroscience and breaking these helpful topics down for us to reflect on our lives. I definitely vibe with the creative type creating educational and entertaining content here on UA-cam and dancing. My engineering background and technical job puts me into a more normalising role. I have used the 1st flavour in a community organising context and now drifting more into the 4th flavour with philosophy and deeper studies. It is a challenge to see which flavour dominates but really interesting to put some language and science behind the actions. Thank you and good luck to all the ENFJs out there! 😊🙏
ENFJ here! My career is currently Aerospace Engineering (Mechanical Engineer). However, many of my engineering colleges did not think I was one but a Business Major. Even though it is not a typical role for ENFJ I love how much information and process methods I can use to connect and teach others. I also teach young kids engineering at STEAM camps, currently 28 and greatly enjoy the work/life path. Really did it as my parents pushed school a lot and we tend to be people pleasers, starting from family. I wanted to study Psychology and Politics which aligns to my personality perfectly apparently, but figured I study Sigmund Freud on my own time.... LOVE & PEACE Family!
omggg me too! i’m an electronic engineering student who gets confused for business as well and wanted to become a psychologist too. i do love teaching but i’m not 100% sure i wanna do it for the rest of my life because i’m also really into many other things. ig only time will tell what i end up doing in the future but i definitely don’t want to limit myself to only one thing. i also love listening to spiritual and psychiatry videos at my internship.
@@justhere9399 I worked in underwriting and commercial lending I found they’re more so just interested in increasing their profit margin and removing any liability. Sure engineering is like that to some extent but at least you’re working on challenging problems , ground breaking applications and new technology . At least I felt like I was helping progress humanity instead of playing into the shady nature of banks . It felt sleazy
An eye opener.. . I have been a fitness instructor for 10 years and I hated the job because of the company that I worked for no room for growth or challenge. I'm know looking at training and development in HR I can't see myself not being a teacher or coach because I love to talk and improve people's lives. I also love esthetics, decor and details. I think I have played all types of ENFP. But this help me understand myself alot and why I behave the way I do.
Great video. I was taking notes from beginning to end! I really found it helpful as I prepare for a job interview that will be a step down the corporate ladder, but would allow me to shift to a more creative, harmonizing, supportive role, after several years of the exhausting pace of a dominant leading role. This gave me a lot of food for thought as I reflect on why I enjoyed certain roles in the past, and begin to think about the lifestyle I would like to design moving forward, and what kind of career would naturally align. Thanks again!
Thanks for sharing these different styles! I “found myself” as you spoke about the Harmonizer. We are too empathetic for our own good sometimes. I biked as a solo female, unsupported across America during the pandemic. I can set and achieve personal goals, but I’m not good at managing others. A lot of people have told me I’m not an ENFJ. Thanks for giving me ammunition to defend my style of ENFJ!❤🎉
I am a professional photographer, I specialise in newborn 5-12 days, babies, kids, maternity and family. I love it..ENFJa I have my own company. My customers think I'm part therapist. I good with kids and adults on the spectrum, or anxious, shy etc. Love it. This is so comprehensive. Thank you. I have creative type vibe, dashed dominant. I have my systems down, check boxed. I can create and feel free to do so.
Thank you for this podcast. For quite some time I thought my personality type was an ENFP. But you have helped me to understand the harmony "flavor" that I yield to. I can lead if place in a position to do so, but I rather lead myself. In addition, one on ones works best for me because I adapt to the person that Im around. I'm more observant in a group setting.
I feel so seen hearing about the creative which feels like my true self. I’ve found it so hard expressing my creative ENFJ because other people tend to value the ENFJ subtypes, which are more about supporting or managing others’ creativity, so I’ve struggled to express my own. For instance, I’ve often ended up teaching instead of creating because I excel at that too and it gets taken advantage of but it can deplete me if I’m not creating for myself first. I wonder if other ENFJs can relate. Thanks for this content, it was so inspiring and helpful 🙏🏼
I can relate! It's tough being a creative type. I have learned to find ways of being creative in the more "normal" jobs, but unfortunately it doesn't typically scratch the itch unless they give you an incredible amount of autonomy, which most work places really don't. I wouldn't trade being a creative type though. Just would be nice to make a living at it. 😊
@@JimmieCNote I’m glad it’s not just me! When it’s who you are it really is like an itch that needs scratching not just something that might be nice to do!
Hello! I'am from Brazil, I'm 25 and I was searching on UA-cam videos about ENFJ careers, because I really feel frustraded with my career path, so I thought that this kind of video could guide me to find a way considering my personalit. I think that I'm a Creative subtype. Actually, I recently graduated in a degree in biological sciences, but so far I have not worked in the area. Also I always had the feeling of being a kind of work that limits my creativity, because it is necessary to follow certain standards and norms. At the same time I have an interest in entrepreneurship.
I'm an ENFJ and about to go back to university. I taught for 12 years then started working in health and social care, mostly in lower management. I've always wanted to work towards making the world a better place. I would say as I've got older I'm definitely more of a dominant type. I do enjoy managing people and taking the lead. My main hobby is dancing and I like yarn crafts as well so I like to have the creative outlet in my life. I'm also attracted to learning and academia. I think that makes my type pretty changeable at times.
Hi, ENFJ harmonizing subtype here. :) I had no idea before watching your podcast and the subtype theory explains so much! I was indeed wondering whether I might not be an INFJ. My boyfriend also told me one "You don't always seem like an extrovert to me." :D I knew, but I never had a reasonable explanation for that. Anyway, I would be more interested in the hormone thing. I know how to support let's say dopamine release, but "my" hormone is estrogen, so how do I work with that?
ENFJ here for sure, but would never want to “manage” people, that’s a hard no. Would have loved to be ENFP in life, but nowhere near that artistic or open. Ahh, a bummer. Wanted to be an actor, but found I was too uptight. Entrepreneurship though, now my advising days are over (retired from a totally fulfilling job) maybe… Y’all got the ENFJ spot on I’d say. One to one was my best thing, and I miss my work a lot. Not the admin part of the job though, yikes, way too stressful/boring. Learning about people was the best, always completely fascinating. Every day was a wonderful adventure. Went home energized most days, and that’s the goal for a career, right? Count myself very lucky. Main thing about the personality types is for the person being assessed to truly get the context of the assessment. It’s cool that it all seems to work & make sense. But the whys & wherefores are the most important bits. Used to tell my students it’s a bit like tarot cards - i.e., if it helps your brain make sense of things to find answers for you, that’s awesome and very useful. But it’s not magic.
40:30 My Story: Among Toppers till Middle School. Average till College. Spoiled with jobs. Fed up of People "Missing the point". Decided Drastic career shift. So Went DUTIFULLY UNEMPLOYED making the gesture as an argument for "Career is not everything" to a society that's pushing us to be one sided, ( meanwhile trying to organically find the work that rings super sincerely true to me, by exploring the inner spectrum of my wild self) As of now, FORESTRY (or related) and related seems exciting. But will hate to see the practical self to push it away and go back all the way. Hope it helps.
I am 50 and going back to school to finish up my nursing degree. I was tasked to give a career speech and take a personality test. In an effort to understand what ENFJ-A meant I found this video. Thanks for this informative deep dive. It helped a lot. Kudos.
Great episode! I don't know a lot of ENFJ Harmonizing type, but for one friend, it has taken me years (literally) to get confident about her true type! I would say she has a bit of normalizing under the harmonizing. When I first met her, I thought INFP or introvered-ish ENFP b/c she is talkative for sure! Then I went to ISFJ b/c she reminds me a bit of Pam on the The Office, who is often typed as that. Then I thought maybe ESFJ, but quickly moved to INFJ. But still -- talkative and out there compared to my true INFJ friend. Finally realized -- she is an ENFJ Harmonizing type, very fluid in her perceiving and judging function (VERY easy with others), BUT oddly very directed and has this underlying goal to her own life. She does not have a career, but you see it with her family. You can tell there is an underlying plan, very consistent in her children's direction, always stuck out the course when others, say, moved schools or activities with the group. Realized she isn't NP b/c while she is very movable in conversation, she isn't in action. I cannot believe how much Joel and Antonia hit this one -- definitely matches my experience of this difficult to type friend!
This was so helpful! Although I really hate admitting it, I've been a job hopper because I just can't find my fit. I am good at managing, but I hate it. I am good at training, but I don't like all the outside team cooridnation that goes into developing my training. I think I am a creative-dominant. Now I just have to figure out what to do with that lol.
Thanks for this in-depth explanation of the four flavours. I'm considering moving to event organisation after five years in teaching, but I resonate more with the Harmonising sub-type. So I'm now thinking that I could include a spiritual aspect within the events or do spiritual related work on the side.
I resonate with this type lately, used to think i had NFP traits but ended up finding resources that helped me find resonance with the ENFJ type. Especially the Creative subtype.
im a creative(recording artist) and the creative part speaks to me loudly. but the dominant part does as well because im very assertive when it comes to my vision but also dominant roles. and i view performing on stage from that lens. ive wrestled, in the past, with the idea of having dominant traits but creative expression and how to merge the two. its been difficult. there is a balance and i can come off like an asshole to people as well but ultimately, if thats what it takes to get the job done, i have to do it.
Could you say the sub-types or flavors are almost like different modes? I could identify different periods of my life as each was explained and felt almost like it just depended on the circumstances I was in - some I remember as being relatively short periods of time or going back and forth between different flavors. For example, different types of work (like manual labor vs clerical service) or different times of the year when going to college (summer break vs class in session). By the end of the video, reiterating the nurture/socio aspects - even though there's a neurochemical and neurostructural dynamic in play - this really seems like the case for me? And not as if it is something that I could switch overnight or moment to moment, but I've always felt like I needed a week or two to "mentally prepare" for life changes, and maybe that's me kind of leaning into different modes subconsciously? In the same thread of thought, I often convince myself I can "get my emotions out of the way early" by considering how things might turn out and the stance I would like to have adopted if/when that moment arrives (doesn't seem healthy, I know, but I've just noticed I do it)... A lot of the things I'll consider sound a lot like the various descriptions of the sub-types or flavors, or rather, leaning into them - like, "I'll have to make sure I'm doing Y because Z is going to be tedious" (entering normative) or "if this relationship goes south, sad-face, I need to focus on where I'm at and not slip into an over-focus on others" (lean harmony) if that makes sense? Finally, the neurochemical responses seem like they would play into accessing serotonin release through mindfulness and the notion could be key in accessing serotonin more effectively in various circumstances, especially if you had less control over those circumstances (like maybe weak job choice in your area - if it all forces a normative mode so to speak, you could respond by ensuring you have your abstract/intuitive "breaks from the norm") Don't mean to ramble, but am I getting it?? lol
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Love this podcast! Made my day. The new subtype info is amazing and clarified things so much for me. My wife is ISTJ and learned a lot on your previous podcast. Love your work - your awesome.🎉
@@briankelly9861 Thank you for stopping by to watch and comment Brian. Appreciate you. ~ Joel
This explained so much about who I am. I always test as an ENFJ but felt like I was more INFJ or ENFP and this explains why! I began my career in Human Resources, an Office Manager and then became a teacher and tutor. I wondered why I was an extrovert when I was happy being alone reflecting, imagining, searching for hidden meanings and writing about them. When I’m with friends, they tell me their dreams and I interpret them for them. This explains how divergent my career paths have been and why I like what I’ve done when each path has seemed so different.
Thank you CC for the feedback. I'd love for you to listen to these two resources for ENFJs...
1) ENFJ Personality Type Advice: ua-cam.com/video/QVwHBH3eh0k/v-deo.html
2) ENFJ Personality Type Interview: ua-cam.com/video/WhBc8PSC4j8/v-deo.html
Tons of ENFJs have said they feel very seen after they've listened to these two episodes. ~ Joel
8:31 Dominant
13:13 Creative
20:23 Normalizing
28:34 Harmonizing
I definitely resonate with the Harmonizer Style of ENFJ. It took a while to figure out I was not actually an introvert. Years later, it's obvious to me how early experiences affected my socialization and learned shyness. I also resonate with the Creative type, somewhat, so we'll see where work and other opportunities take me. This is such helpful information. My sister had a confusing time with type, so the styles may help her land in a more satisfying place than the stereotypes do.
This was great! I identify strongly with the Harmonising subtype. I did think I was an INFJ for a long time partly because I often feel more introverted but also there was a lot in the description I related to too. However, I can be very extroverted too. I would say from midlife I've been more 'harmonising' however I was very different when I was younger. I worked in retail and really enjoyed serving people, meeting their needs and lifting their spirits too if possible. I think I would therefore have been more Normalising when younger. I also related to the Creative type as I do like things open ended. I also enjoy dancing, having reflected at times 'I should have been a dancer!' I'm drawn to acting too.
I practiced as a Massage Therapist and the style I wish I had learned years ago is Lomi Lomi, a Hawaiian spiritual massage that for the therapist has a sort of dance/flow around the client, ocean style, very rhythmic and flowing, whilst connecting to healing energy for the client. A more expressive, creative form of massage that takes the Therapist away from their thinking mind and to their higher, essential self. Yes, I'm definitely a Harmony subtype!
It took me such a long time to find my type. I have a very busy mind and would land on a type feeling completely certain it was my type, only to think later, hmm but what about X and that would set me off again contemplating. I've realised after years of emotional and cognitive growth work, that my body centre has been very neglected. I now focus on grounding, being in my body more and this really helps calm my mind.
Thanks for a great episode!
Thank you Helen for this feedback. ~ Joel
Already excited for this one.
Thank you for watching and commenting Denzel. - Joel
Looking forward to this 🙂
Thanks Helen. I hope you get lots of new thoughts and connections from this. - Joel
Thank you for the insights. I am intrigued. I'm attempting to tap into my inner sorting hat and having difficulty discerning into which subtype I should be placed. I have embodied each; some for moments, some for seasons. I'm a Jill of many trades, hobbies and interests. I have a compulsion to move with the evolution of my values. My point of attraction is ever changing. I'm "good" at a decent number of things but I can become disenchanted quite quickly. Currently in awe of this little transmission! I've never felt so seen and understood.
Happy that this video made you feel understood. I'd love for you to listen to these two resources for ENFJs...
1) ENFJ Personality Type Advice: ua-cam.com/video/QVwHBH3eh0k/v-deo.html
2) ENFJ Personality Type Interview: ua-cam.com/video/WhBc8PSC4j8/v-deo.html
Tons of ENFJs have said they feel very seen after they've listened to these two episodes. ~ Joel
Really nuanced and thought-provoking session, thank you. I as I reflect back over my life and career this session helps me understand what seemed like inner contradictions. I ended up in a number of management jobs, in part because that's what white males are supposed to do, but I never felt comfortable in them. I oscillated between manager jobs and facilitator-coaching. I suspect my more natural drift is to harmony-creative. Thanks for the insights!
Thank you for commenting. ~ Joel
I am an enfj, in journalism collage doing tarrot reading, into kickboxing and also I am currently a bartender that has a podcast 🤣 what do you think about this.😁 This was one of the b3st material's I've herd about this particular personality type, helped me a lot with some question I had about my brain protocols. 😁
Thank you so much for this!!!! As an ENFJ-A, I appreciate this!!! I really want to start my own business selling my paintings and somehow combine it with books. If I had the chance to restart my life from high-school I would be a psychiatrist today but at 36 with 3 kids and a mortgage I have no desire to go back to school
Thank you Dani for sharing your experience. ~ Joel
@Personality Hacker I think I fit into the creative subtype but with attributes from all the others as well, I'm also married to an INFJ and can relate in most ways to him too, he's a true infj with the introvert aspect whereas I am definitely extroverted, we level each other out amazingly. Is it normal for the NFJ types to be so similar? Just curious sorry!
@@danihair6758 Both ENFJs and INFJs have a lot of similar experiences. But they also have differences. We are going to be talking about how the four subtypes of INFJs shows up in a few weeks. Right now the plan is to premier a new episode every Sunday morning at 10am ET. Love to have you join us each week. ~ Joel
@@Personalityhacker can't wait!!!
Thank you I am an ENFJ 2w1 279 interested in less conventional, more intuitive forms of spiritual leadership.
First time commenting after being a follower for YEARS. I just felt so seen hearing yall describe ENFJ "normalizing" preferences. My INFP husband almost came out of his skin in excitement; you were so spot on 😂😂😂. Anywho. Just felt the desire to give kudos. One of my top 3 favorites for SURE!
And to add. It felt SO good to be validated in my respect for facts and knowledge. I often groan at the stereotype that we "can't be scientists" and aren't logical. My favorite subjects in school were always science and such. I am an RN, and that requires a mastery of facts, memorizing body parts and processes, problem solving skills, deductive and deferential reasoning, etc. I know my PREFERENCE is in the relational careers (nursing, psychotherapy, etc) but I KNOW I'm capable of the more......research heavy, independent work environment, INTP -ish careers.
As an honest to God ENFJ 😂😂😂 I'm SURE of that as well!
@@lataishaarmstrong6451 Thank you for sharing all this. Appreciate your thoughts Lataisha. ~ Joel
Hello. ENFJ here. I definitely lean more towards the creative type. I can see myself in each of these "flavors" the dominant sub-type probably being my least used, unless I'm under pressure, then I call it the "big guns". Loved this!
Thank you for sharing. ~ Joel
I have an ENFJ friend who's a creative type based on your description. She's an actress in dubbing. Recently transitioned to a pre-school teacher. She has some dominant characteristics. She even had started two podcasts - one solo and one in tandem with a friend of hers.
Love this new series of episodes, waiting for the INFJ one!
I do wonder, how do you not confuse normalizing ENFJs for having "higher" Ti? (You said they might be into more technical and theoretical work, and spotting mistakes which can seem similar to striving for accuracy)
ENFJ-N here. This was super interesting. I have always wondered how and why various ENFJs could act, speak and think so differently. The "flavors" makes a lot of sense.
Great show!
The career will find you when you work the muscles of your personality
Thank you for sharing this. - Joel
I'm a brand new listener and an ENFJ! Thank you for your work here! 😊 I was a stay at home parent for 20+ years where I was an advocate and mentor to my kids and volunteered in my community a bunch. All of my kids have health needs and neuro diversity so the advocate role was huge for me (and continues to be). I went back to college in 2020 for communications and work part-time as a copywriter while I finish up and it's so fun!!
Can ENFJ people feel comfortable in a software engineering career? I like coding but the work experience doesn't seem to highlight my strengths.
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Hey ENFJ here! ✨ Thank you both for the interesting neuroscience and breaking these helpful topics down for us to reflect on our lives. I definitely vibe with the creative type creating educational and entertaining content here on UA-cam and dancing.
My engineering background and technical job puts me into a more normalising role. I have used the 1st flavour in a community organising context and now drifting more into the 4th flavour with philosophy and deeper studies.
It is a challenge to see which flavour dominates but really interesting to put some language and science behind the actions. Thank you and good luck to all the ENFJs out there! 😊🙏
Even in sciences, having people that attempt to spread the science for agriculture etc is important.
Thanks for this episode. It made me think a lot.
ENFJ here! My career is currently Aerospace Engineering (Mechanical Engineer). However, many of my engineering colleges did not think I was one but a Business Major. Even though it is not a typical role for ENFJ I love how much information and process methods I can use to connect and teach others. I also teach young kids engineering at STEAM camps, currently 28 and greatly enjoy the work/life path. Really did it as my parents pushed school a lot and we tend to be people pleasers, starting from family. I wanted to study Psychology and Politics which aligns to my personality perfectly apparently, but figured I study Sigmund Freud on my own time.... LOVE & PEACE Family!
Very relatable I’m at my engineering job and have a social psychology book next to me
omggg me too! i’m an electronic engineering student who gets confused for business as well and wanted to become a psychologist too. i do love teaching but i’m not 100% sure i wanna do it for the rest of my life because i’m also really into many other things. ig only time will tell what i end up doing in the future but i definitely don’t want to limit myself to only one thing. i also love listening to spiritual and psychiatry videos at my internship.
@@justhere9399 don’t do business or teaching trust me I did finance and switched back to engineering
@@habibtiz4335 do u mind if i ask why u switched back? also, what type of finance and teaching did you end up doing?
@@justhere9399 I worked in underwriting and commercial lending I found they’re more so just interested in increasing their profit margin and removing any liability. Sure engineering is like that to some extent but at least you’re working on challenging problems , ground breaking applications and new technology . At least I felt like I was helping progress humanity instead of playing into the shady nature of banks . It felt sleazy
An eye opener.. . I have been a fitness instructor for 10 years and I hated the job because of the company that I worked for no room for growth or challenge. I'm know looking at training and development in HR I can't see myself not being a teacher or coach because I love to talk and improve people's lives. I also love esthetics, decor and details. I think I have played all types of ENFP. But this help me understand myself alot and why I behave the way I do.
Great video. I was taking notes from beginning to end! I really found it helpful as I prepare for a job interview that will be a step down the corporate ladder, but would allow me to shift to a more creative, harmonizing, supportive role, after several years of the exhausting pace of a dominant leading role.
This gave me a lot of food for thought as I reflect on why I enjoyed certain roles in the past, and begin to think about the lifestyle I would like to design moving forward, and what kind of career would naturally align. Thanks again!
Yeah 🎉🎉🎉🙏❤️
Joel looks like Charles Manson. Not a great way to start a video.
For a split second, I thought the same thing.😂
Enfj engineer here
I feel like im a mix of all 4
Thanks for sharing these different styles! I “found myself” as you spoke about the Harmonizer. We are too empathetic for our own good sometimes. I biked as a solo female, unsupported across America during the pandemic. I can set and achieve personal goals, but I’m not good at managing others. A lot of people have told me I’m not an ENFJ. Thanks for giving me ammunition to defend my style of ENFJ!❤🎉
I am a professional photographer, I specialise in newborn 5-12 days, babies, kids, maternity and family.
I love it..ENFJa
I have my own company.
My customers think I'm part therapist. I good with kids and adults on the spectrum, or anxious, shy etc.
Love it.
This is so comprehensive. Thank you. I have creative type vibe, dashed dominant.
I have my systems down, check boxed. I can create and feel free to do so.
Thank you for this podcast. For quite some time I thought my personality type was an ENFP. But you have helped me to understand the harmony "flavor" that I yield to. I can lead if place in a position to do so, but I rather lead myself. In addition, one on ones works best for me because I adapt to the person that Im around. I'm more observant in a group setting.
I feel so seen hearing about the creative which feels like my true self. I’ve found it so hard expressing my creative ENFJ because other people tend to value the ENFJ subtypes, which are more about supporting or managing others’ creativity, so I’ve struggled to express my own. For instance, I’ve often ended up teaching instead of creating because I excel at that too and it gets taken advantage of but it can deplete me if I’m not creating for myself first. I wonder if other ENFJs can relate. Thanks for this content, it was so inspiring and helpful 🙏🏼
I can relate! It's tough being a creative type. I have learned to find ways of being creative in the more "normal" jobs, but unfortunately it doesn't typically scratch the itch unless they give you an incredible amount of autonomy, which most work places really don't. I wouldn't trade being a creative type though. Just would be nice to make a living at it. 😊
@@JimmieCNote I’m glad it’s not just me! When it’s who you are it really is like an itch that needs scratching not just something that might be nice to do!
Hello! I'am from Brazil, I'm 25 and I was searching on UA-cam videos about ENFJ careers, because I really feel frustraded with my career path, so I thought that this kind of video could guide me to find a way considering my personalit. I think that I'm a Creative subtype. Actually, I recently graduated in a degree in biological sciences, but so far I have not worked in the area. Also I always had the feeling of being a kind of work that limits my creativity, because it is necessary to follow certain standards and norms. At the same time I have an interest in entrepreneurship.
I'm an ENFJ and about to go back to university. I taught for 12 years then started working in health and social care, mostly in lower management. I've always wanted to work towards making the world a better place. I would say as I've got older I'm definitely more of a dominant type. I do enjoy managing people and taking the lead. My main hobby is dancing and I like yarn crafts as well so I like to have the creative outlet in my life. I'm also attracted to learning and academia. I think that makes my type pretty changeable at times.
Hi, ENFJ harmonizing subtype here. :) I had no idea before watching your podcast and the subtype theory explains so much! I was indeed wondering whether I might not be an INFJ. My boyfriend also told me one "You don't always seem like an extrovert to me." :D I knew, but I never had a reasonable explanation for that.
Anyway, I would be more interested in the hormone thing. I know how to support let's say dopamine release, but "my" hormone is estrogen, so how do I work with that?
ENFJ here for sure, but would never want to “manage” people, that’s a hard no.
Would have loved to be ENFP in life, but nowhere near that artistic or open. Ahh, a bummer. Wanted to be an actor, but found I was too uptight. Entrepreneurship though, now my advising days are over (retired from a totally fulfilling job) maybe…
Y’all got the ENFJ spot on I’d say. One to one was my best thing, and I miss my work a lot. Not the admin part of the job though, yikes, way too stressful/boring. Learning about people was the best, always completely fascinating. Every day was a wonderful adventure. Went home energized most days, and that’s the goal for a career, right? Count myself very lucky.
Main thing about the personality types is for the person being assessed to truly get the context of the assessment. It’s cool that it all seems to work & make sense. But the whys & wherefores are the most important bits. Used to tell my students it’s a bit like tarot cards - i.e., if it helps your brain make sense of things to find answers for you, that’s awesome and very useful. But it’s not magic.
40:30 My Story:
Among Toppers till Middle School.
Average till College.
Spoiled with jobs.
Fed up of People "Missing the point".
Decided Drastic career shift.
So Went DUTIFULLY UNEMPLOYED making the gesture as an argument for "Career is not everything" to a society that's pushing us to be one sided, ( meanwhile trying to organically find the work that rings super sincerely true to me, by exploring the inner spectrum of my wild self)
As of now, FORESTRY (or related) and related seems exciting. But will hate to see the practical self to push it away and go back all the way.
Hope it helps.
I am 50 and going back to school to finish up my nursing degree. I was tasked to give a career speech and take a personality test. In an effort to understand what ENFJ-A meant I found this video. Thanks for this informative deep dive. It helped a lot. Kudos.
Good stuff! Very informative and helpul to this creative enfj. Thank you.
Great episode! I don't know a lot of ENFJ Harmonizing type, but for one friend, it has taken me years (literally) to get confident about her true type! I would say she has a bit of normalizing under the harmonizing. When I first met her, I thought INFP or introvered-ish ENFP b/c she is talkative for sure! Then I went to ISFJ b/c she reminds me a bit of Pam on the The Office, who is often typed as that. Then I thought maybe ESFJ, but quickly moved to INFJ. But still -- talkative and out there compared to my true INFJ friend. Finally realized -- she is an ENFJ Harmonizing type, very fluid in her perceiving and judging function (VERY easy with others), BUT oddly very directed and has this underlying goal to her own life. She does not have a career, but you see it with her family. You can tell there is an underlying plan, very consistent in her children's direction, always stuck out the course when others, say, moved schools or activities with the group. Realized she isn't NP b/c while she is very movable in conversation, she isn't in action. I cannot believe how much Joel and Antonia hit this one -- definitely matches my experience of this difficult to type friend!
This was so helpful! Although I really hate admitting it, I've been a job hopper because I just can't find my fit. I am good at managing, but I hate it. I am good at training, but I don't like all the outside team cooridnation that goes into developing my training. I think I am a creative-dominant. Now I just have to figure out what to do with that lol.
Thanks for this in-depth explanation of the four flavours. I'm considering moving to event organisation after five years in teaching, but I resonate more with the Harmonising sub-type. So I'm now thinking that I could include a spiritual aspect within the events or do spiritual related work on the side.
I resonate with this type lately, used to think i had NFP traits but ended up finding resources that helped me find resonance with the ENFJ type. Especially the Creative subtype.
im a creative(recording artist) and the creative part speaks to me loudly. but the dominant part does as well because im very assertive when it comes to my vision but also dominant roles. and i view performing on stage from that lens. ive wrestled, in the past, with the idea of having dominant traits but creative expression and how to merge the two. its been difficult. there is a balance and i can come off like an asshole to people as well but ultimately, if thats what it takes to get the job done, i have to do it.
Does each personality type has so many flavors to them? Or it's just ENFJ's thing?
on 3rd time since 2021, same result, im still enfj. 😁🤙👍
This is really helpful! Thank you for sharing.
Is interior design good for ENFJs?
Could you say the sub-types or flavors are almost like different modes?
I could identify different periods of my life as each was explained and felt almost like it just depended on the circumstances I was in - some I remember as being relatively short periods of time or going back and forth between different flavors. For example, different types of work (like manual labor vs clerical service) or different times of the year when going to college (summer break vs class in session).
By the end of the video, reiterating the nurture/socio aspects - even though there's a neurochemical and neurostructural dynamic in play - this really seems like the case for me? And not as if it is something that I could switch overnight or moment to moment, but I've always felt like I needed a week or two to "mentally prepare" for life changes, and maybe that's me kind of leaning into different modes subconsciously?
In the same thread of thought, I often convince myself I can "get my emotions out of the way early" by considering how things might turn out and the stance I would like to have adopted if/when that moment arrives (doesn't seem healthy, I know, but I've just noticed I do it)... A lot of the things I'll consider sound a lot like the various descriptions of the sub-types or flavors, or rather, leaning into them - like, "I'll have to make sure I'm doing Y because Z is going to be tedious" (entering normative) or "if this relationship goes south, sad-face, I need to focus on where I'm at and not slip into an over-focus on others" (lean harmony) if that makes sense?
Finally, the neurochemical responses seem like they would play into accessing serotonin release through mindfulness and the notion could be key in accessing serotonin more effectively in various circumstances, especially if you had less control over those circumstances (like maybe weak job choice in your area - if it all forces a normative mode so to speak, you could respond by ensuring you have your abstract/intuitive "breaks from the norm")
Don't mean to ramble, but am I getting it?? lol
I’ve had so many people tell me I should become a politician but find the suggestion quite insulting 🫥🤣 so I settled on law as a compromise hahaha